Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Untitled Document हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Manoj, Namaskar I must disagree with your opinion. You will see why in the following paragraphs. You may believe what you want. When Saturn associates with the ninth housepeople begin loosing faith in mantras, remedies, etc. Even when Saturn lords the same. For this reason i NEVER advise a blue sapphire for a Taurus lagna UNLESS Saturn is placed in a dusthana like the twelfth house. In the latter cases Vipareet Raja Yoga occurs instead. Example 1: Male born November 12th, 1934 at 18:19 (85e50: 20n30, 5:30 East of GMT) The native has Taurus Lagna with Saturn in the ninth house. It is joined Moon and Saturn and placed in the eleventh house from Arudha lagna. He led a successful career in mining steel: mining is rahu and steel/irons is saturn whilst Moon joined them also shows some gemstones may have been there. Some deem Rahu as the most malefic, and thus Rahu will give results of the Moon and vice versa. So Saturn will give its own results. When Saturn Mahadasa arrived in 1987 the persons career fell apart and the family was overwhelmed by courtcases. The native lost his home, his livelihood and finally most of his wealth due to this. On top of this he blames all remedies for not working, yet refuses to take advise when given to him. So, is Saturn auspicious in ninth? No! The same applies to Leo lagna, where Mars being a malefic can turn very auspicious if placed in the twelfth house. An example is given. Example 2: Male born April 21st, 1948 at 14:01 (34e48: 32n10, 2hrs East of GMT). This person has Leo lagna and Mars in the twelfth house debilitated. Most would deem this as highly inauspicious, but this native has had ALL his major rajayoga abroad. This should preferably be unconjoined, and rightly so the conjunction of seventh lord Saturn led to an unfortunate first marriage, and also later a lot of jealousy surrounding him in his job, due to Saturn lording the sixth and aspecting the tenth. Mars and Saturn are joined, and thus Saturn will give the results of Mars during his Dasa. During Saturn dasa he had his highest level of Raja yoga in Israel and later in Finland, but the jealousy also followed and he had to leave both jobs after his boss had put him in a problematic situation. Saturn aspects the tenth house, and he found himself in a problematic situation after his job changes. He has not followed much of the vedic remedies given to him, yet he has his own beliefs in this regard. A useful remedy is to wear a blue sapphire on the left hand ring finger to remedy this. These are just two examples. I hope this helps to understand your situation better. I recommend listening to the Atri class mp3 regarding the ninth house to learn more. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Manoj Sharma wrote: Dear Visti, just thought would share this small experience with you. In my case, with Taurus ascendant, Saturn, the ninth and 10 lord is in 11th. I am confining my discussion only to gemstone. Saturn is not conjunct with any other planet. I thought Blue Sapphire would suit me. I also got it corsschecked with Ms. Swee, and she also corroborated this fact. About two months before, I got a beautiful stone Blue Sapphire from Ms Swee's contact in the US. The stone was of such a high quality that I can't even describe it. However, within two hours of wearing it, I started feeling very misreable. There was a very good job offer in the offing. I had cleared all the interviews and the employer had told me to standby for the offer letter. You may find it hard to believe it, within three hours of wearing the stone, I got a telephone call from my prospective employer informing that for the time being they have shelved off the decision to hire for the said position. Usually, me and wife donot have even an argument. That evening, I had a fierece argument with my wife. I was so petrified that I removed the stone. It was as if that Saturn was placed malefic in my chart and I further strengthened it by wearing Blue Sapphire. I just don't get this... This time there was no problem with the quality of the stone. And my date of birth is recorded very very accurately (as accurately as it is humanly possible). I just don't understand this man!!!! The only plausible explanation is that we may come out with all sorts of theories, but if there is no divine will, nothing works...and I say this with lot of conviction! Thanks for your time and space.... Manoj Sharma --- Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: > > ??? ??? ?????? > > Dear Sishya, Namaskar > I cannot comment on the statements by Anuj-ji and > Swee-ji regarding > gemstone replacement based on yoga. But, then again > i don't know which > scriptures they are referring to. I would appreciate > a reproduction of > the Saptarishi Nadi to gain a better understanding > of prescription of > remedial measures. > Instead I will here supply the knowledge that I have > attained from the > Parampara, and hope that its of use to you and the > Gurus for their research. > *o Sambandha o* > > Sanjayji has clearly stated in his Atri lecture on > the ninth house, that > parivartana or yuti with the ninth lord can make it > necessary to change > the gemstone advise. > > Example: If ninth lord is in the sixth house and > sixth lord is in the > ninth house, thus forming a parivartana yoga, then > advise the gemstone > of the sixth lord to get the auspicious results of > the ninth bhava. > > Example 2: If Rahu is joined the ninth lord, then it > will damage the > bhagya and the person must wear a yellow sapphire. > > So yuti and parivartana matter. They are the two > most important types of > Yoga among the fourt types of yoga mentioned by > Parasara. The four are > in order of importance: > 1. Parivartana. > 2. Yuti (conjunction) > 3. samdristi (mutual dristi) > 4. dristi parivartana (dristi on each others signs). > > The first two are more permanent and require > lifelong remedy, whilst the > last two are only prominent during the dasa of the > planets. > > Example 3: If Saturn is in the third house, then its > dristi on the ninth > house will give problems during Saturns dasa/antara. > Hence, wearing a > blue sapphire on the left hand is advised during > this dasa to mitigise > the negative effects of Saturn. > > *o Yuti of many planets o* > If three or more planets combine in a sign, then it > is a source of > confusion as to which planet will give which > effects. The parampara > teaches an easy scheme to reckon this. > > The most benefic and most malefic planets will give > each others effects. > This is based on the planets natural > maleficence/beneficence and the > order of these are: > Jupiter > Venus > Moon > Mercury > Sun > Ketu > Mars > Rahu > Saturn. > > * Some consider Ketu more malefic than Mars, and > similarly some consider > Rahu more malefic than Saturn. > > Example 4: If a Yoga of Jupiter, Venus, Sun and > Saturn is there in a > sign we consider the following to give each others > effects: Jupiter and > Saturn are the most benefic and malefic planets > respectively and thus > strengthening Jupiter will give Saturns effects and > vice versa. > Similarly Sun and Venus are next in line, and will > also give each others > effects. > > What if an uneven (3, 5 or 7) amount of planets > join? > > Example 5: If a yoga of Mercury, Sun and Mars is > there in one house we > consider the following: Mercury and Mars are the > most benefic and > malefic grahas respectively, and will thus give each > others effects. Sun > is the one left out and will give his own effects > due to this. This was > the example of PV Narasimha Rao, in which case a Red > Coral was advised > to cause the Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga (yuti Mercury > in Gemini - tenth > house) to rise in his life. > > *o Endnote o > *Whenever advising a gemstone, do advise the > puja/mantra to imbibe the > gem with the particular devata you wanto strengthen > in the person, and > always prefer the most pure mantras, such as the > Rk's that Parasara > advises. > > I.e. for a Ruby advise the Aakrishnenaa... mantra > from the Rg Veda. > Similarly for a Yellow Sapphire advise the Rk > Brhaspate Ati Yadaryo > Arhaat... mantra. Make an exercise in finding all > these mantras and > collecting them to advise for those who wish to wear > the gemstones. > > This will not only ensure fortune following from the > wearing of the > gemstone, but will also protect the native from any > faults accompanying > the wearing of the gem. > > Finally, keep in mind the main yogas in the chart > before advising a > gemstone/remedy. If you give a gemstone to a person > and miss the remedy > to a curse or major kala sarpa/amrita yoga, then the > gemstone is useless > and the client will only be a source of agony for > the astrologer. > This will take time to learn, and doing so you will > become great > astrologers. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen > email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > For consultations and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > Sharat wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Sundeep > > > > Sanjay jis rule as I seem to understand is: > > 1. First consider the planet in the bhava > > 2. If no planet then strongest aspect by rasi > drishti > > 3. If none, then take the Lord of the Bhava > > > > There does seem to be an opinion that Lord of the > Bhava be considered > > over the Rasi drishti, as you rightly point out. > Perhaps one needs to > > examine the D20 chart to see which is stronger. > > > > I also meant to ask whether you had some > resolution of the query > > regarding Gemstone use when planets are in > conjunction or parivartan. > > > > I did not get any reposne to my query. > > > > Regards > > > > Sharat > > > > > > > > - > > ** vedicastrostudent > <vedicastrostudent > > > *To:* sohamsa > <sohamsa > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:23 PM > > *Subject:* Re: JAI SRIKRISHNA TO ALL > > > > Dear Soulsadhak, > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Untitled Document हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Jim, Namaskar If there is parivartana, then only apply parivartana. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com vedicastrostudent wrote: Dear Vistiji, Thank you very much for the illuminating write up. To echo what Sharat says, the only doubt that remains is the following case (of which Sharat's case is one example, my case is another and I'm sure many other people have very similar cases, so your one reply would probably help several people): 1) If a graha 1 in House A is in parivartana with graha 2 in House B, and simultaneously in House A there are graha 3 and graha 4, then which of the following is true: Possibility 1 (Apply all rules only ONCE per graha in ORDER): Due to being the most important rule, parivartana causes graha 1 and graha 2 to exchange results. Graha 3 and graha 4 exchange results. Possibility 2: (Apply all rules REPEATEDLY and in ORDER) Parivartana causes graha 1 and graha 2 to exchange results. However graha 1 may also end up exchanging results with graha 3 due to secondary yuti principle. So, graha 2 gives the results of graha 1. Graha 3 gives the results of graha 2 (because it is taking up graha 1's after-parivartana role). Graha 1 gives the results of graha 3 (because it is taking up graha 3's role). Graha 4 gives its own results. There are more possibilities, but the above 2 feel like the most realistic ones. The question is, which one if any is correct? Thank you very much, Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Namaskar Sundeep, here you go.. June 1, 1966 Time: 5:35 AM Place: Baraut (40 Kms North of Delhi) all the best --- vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote: > Dear Manoj, > I know your query is to Visti, but could you please > tell us your > birthtime. This is an interesting case to me since > your experience > is very clear, not ambiguous, and you have an > accurate birthtime and > a good stone. What is the chara karakatwa of Saturn > in your chart? > > Thanks > > Sundeep > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma > <manojsharma662000 > wrote: > > > > Dear Visti, > > just thought would share this small experience > with > > you. > > > > In my case, with Taurus ascendant, Saturn, the > ninth > > and 10 lord is in 11th. I am confining my > discussion > > only to gemstone. Saturn is not conjunct with any > > other planet. I thought Blue Sapphire would suit > me. I > > also got it corsschecked with Ms. Swee, and she > also > > corroborated this fact. About two months before, I > got > > a beautiful stone Blue Sapphire from Ms Swee's > contact > > in the US. The stone was of such a high quality > that I > > can't even describe it. However, within two hours > of > > wearing it, I started feeling very misreable. > There > > was a very good job offer in the offing. I had > cleared > > all the interviews and the employer had told me to > > standby for the offer letter. You may find it hard > to > > believe it, within three hours of wearing the > stone, I > > got a telephone call from my prospective employer > > informing that for the time being they have > shelved > > off the decision to hire for the said position. > > Usually, me and wife donot have even an argument. > That > > evening, I had a fierece argument with my wife. I > was > > so petrified that I removed the stone. > > It was as if that Saturn was placed malefic in my > > chart and I further strengthened it by wearing > Blue > > Sapphire. I just don't get this... > > This time there was no problem with the quality of > the > > stone. And my date of birth is recorded very very > > accurately (as accurately as it is humanly > possible). > > I just don't understand this man!!!! > > The only plausible explanation is that we may come > out > > with all sorts of theories, but if there is no > divine > > will, nothing works...and I say this with lot of > > conviction! > > Thanks for your time and space.... > > Manoj Sharma > > --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > Dear Sishya, Namaskar > > > I cannot comment on the statements by Anuj-ji > and > > > Swee-ji regarding > > > gemstone replacement based on yoga. But, then > again > > > i don't know which > > > scriptures they are referring to. I would > appreciate > > > a reproduction of > > > the Saptarishi Nadi to gain a better > understanding > > > of prescription of > > > remedial measures. > > > Instead I will here supply the knowledge that I > have > > > attained from the > > > Parampara, and hope that its of use to you and > the > > > Gurus for their research. > > > *o Sambandha o* > > > > > > Sanjayji has clearly stated in his Atri lecture > on > > > the ninth house, that > > > parivartana or yuti with the ninth lord can make > it > > > necessary to change > > > the gemstone advise. > > > > > > Example: If ninth lord is in the sixth house and > > > sixth lord is in the > > > ninth house, thus forming a parivartana yoga, > then > > > advise the gemstone > > > of the sixth lord to get the auspicious results > of > > > the ninth bhava. > > > > > > Example 2: If Rahu is joined the ninth lord, > then it > > > will damage the > > > bhagya and the person must wear a yellow > sapphire. > > > > > > So yuti and parivartana matter. They are the two > > > most important types of > > > Yoga among the fourt types of yoga mentioned by > > > Parasara. The four are > > > in order of importance: > > > 1. Parivartana. > > > 2. Yuti (conjunction) > > > 3. samdristi (mutual dristi) > > > 4. dristi parivartana (dristi on each others > signs). > > > > > > The first two are more permanent and require > > > lifelong remedy, whilst the > > > last two are only prominent during the dasa of > the > > > planets. > > > > > > Example 3: If Saturn is in the third house, then > its > > > dristi on the ninth > > > house will give problems during Saturns > dasa/antara. > > > Hence, wearing a > > > blue sapphire on the left hand is advised during > > > this dasa to mitigise > > > the negative effects of Saturn. > > > > > > *o Yuti of many planets o* > > > If three or more planets combine in a sign, then > it > > > is a source of > > > confusion as to which planet will give which > > > effects. The parampara > > > teaches an easy scheme to reckon this. > > > > > > The most benefic and most malefic planets will > give > > > each others effects. > > > This is based on the planets natural > > > maleficence/beneficence and the > > > order of these are: > > > Jupiter > > > Venus > > > Moon > > > Mercury > > > Sun > > > Ketu > > > Mars > > > Rahu > > > Saturn. > > > > > > * Some consider Ketu more malefic than Mars, and > > > similarly some consider > > > Rahu more malefic than Saturn. > > > > > > Example 4: If a Yoga of Jupiter, Venus, Sun and > > > Saturn is there in a > > > sign we consider the following to give each > others > > > effects: Jupiter and > > > Saturn are the most benefic and malefic planets > > > respectively and thus > > > strengthening Jupiter will give Saturns effects > and > > > vice versa. > > > Similarly Sun and Venus are next in line, and > will > > > also give each others > > > effects. > > > > > > What if an uneven (3, 5 or 7) amount of planets > > > join? > > > > > > Example 5: If a yoga of Mercury, Sun and Mars is > > > there in one house we > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Dear Visti, Your post is enabling to learn few things that most adept astrologers won't know. However, I have few comments to make...MY RESPONSE IS IN BOLD. Manoj Sharma --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ?????? > > Dear Manoj, Namaskar > I must disagree with your opinion. You will see why > in the following > paragraphs. You may believe what you want. > > When Saturn associates with the ninth housepeople > begin loosing faith in > mantras, remedies, etc. Even when Saturn lords the > same. For this reason > i NEVER advise a blue sapphire for a Taurus lagna > UNLESS Saturn is > placed in a dusthana like the twelfth house. In the > latter cases > Vipareet Raja Yoga occurs instead. I AM INCLINED TO BELIEVE THIS EXPLANATION. I CAN TELL YOU ONE FACT THOUGH: eVERY ASTROLOGER ON THIS PLANET HAD TOLD ME THAT MY SATURN IS VERY GOOD AND IT IS LIKELY TO GIVE SOME GOOD RESULTS. BUT AS YOU HAVE POINTED OUT NOW, SINCE IT IS THE LORD OF THE NINTH HOUSE, PERHAPS THAT IS WHY IT IS MALEFIC FOR ME . ONE THING HOWEVER IS NOT TRUE. I HAVE NEVER LOST FAITH IN REMEDIES. IN FACT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ASTROLOGICAL REASONS COULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO THIS FACT, I VERY RARELY MISS MY MORNING PRAYERS. I REGULARLY DO MAHAMRTUNJAY MANTRA AND HANUMAN CHALISA WITHOUT FAIL EVERYDAY. ACTUALLY SPEAKING, WHEN I STARTED REALISING THAT NO GEMSTONE IS LIKELY TO SUIT ME FOR ENHANCING MY CAREER, I STARTED RELYING MORE ON MY PRAYERS. I THINK THAT I AM VERY VERY SPRITUALLY INCLINED. COMING FROM ORTHODOX BRAHMIN FAMILY, I WAS INCULCATED THE IMPORTANCE OF PRAYERS RIGHT FROM MY CHILDHOOD. IT IS BECAUSE THAT I BELIEVE THAT BY ADOPTING A CERTAIN CONDUCT, YOU CAN REDUCE THE MALEFIC EFFECTS OF A PLANET, I NEVER ATE NON-VEGETARIAN FOOD IN MY WHOLE LIFE EVEN AFTER COMING TO NORTH AMERICA. I WAS SIMPLY TOO AFRAID THAT I WOULD BE TURNING SATURN INTO MORE MALEFIC IF I ATE NON-VEGETARIAN FOOD. THE POINT I AM TRYING TO DRIVE HOME IS THAT I HAVE NEVER LOST FAITH IN REMEDIES. TILL THIS POINT, I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHY SATURN HAS TURNED MALEFIC FOR ME WHEN GOING BY EVERY ASTROLOGY DOCTRINE, IT SHOULD HAVE GIVEN ME GOOD SUCCESS. BUT AFTER LOOKING AT YOUR POST, I AM MORE THAN CONVINCED THAT SATURN ACTUALLY WAS MALEFIC IN MY CASE CONTRARY TO EVERYBODY'S BELIEF. SO THAT LEAVES NOTHING IN MY CHART :0 STILL I MANAGED TO SURVIVE NOTWITHSTANDING THE ROLLER COASTER RIDE THAT MY LIFE HAS BEEN. THANK HEAVENS SATURN MAHADASHA IS OVER FOR ME. THERE ARE SOME MEDIOCRE MAHADASHAS COMING MY WAY NOW. SINCE THE ADVENT OF MERCURY MAHADASHA, LIFE IS NOT BADGERING ME. THOUGH EKING OUT A LIVELIHOOD IS STILL A BIG PROBLEM... THANKS FOR ALL YOUR GUIDANCE. > *Example 1: Male born November 12th, 1934 at 18:19 > (85e50: 20n30, 5:30 > East of GMT)* > The native has Taurus Lagna with Saturn in the ninth > house. It is joined > Moon and Saturn and placed in the eleventh house > from Arudha lagna. He > led a successful career in mining steel: mining is > rahu and steel/irons > is saturn whilst Moon joined them also shows some > gemstones may have > been there. > Some deem Rahu as the most malefic, and thus Rahu > will give results of > the Moon and vice versa. So Saturn will give its own > results. > > When Saturn Mahadasa arrived in 1987 the persons > career fell apart and > the family was overwhelmed by courtcases. The native > lost his home, his > livelihood and finally most of his wealth due to > this. On top of this he > blames all remedies for not working, yet refuses to > take advise when > given to him. > So, is Saturn auspicious in ninth? No! > > The same applies to Leo lagna, where Mars being a > malefic can turn very > auspicious if placed in the twelfth house. An > example is given. > > *Example 2: Male born April 21st, 1948 at 14:01 > (34e48: 32n10, 2hrs East > of GMT).* > This person has Leo lagna and Mars in the twelfth > house debilitated. > Most would deem this as highly inauspicious, but > this native has had ALL > his major rajayoga abroad. > This should preferably be unconjoined, and rightly > so the conjunction of > seventh lord Saturn led to an unfortunate first > marriage, and also later > a lot of jealousy surrounding him in his job, due to > Saturn lording the > sixth and aspecting the tenth. > Mars and Saturn are joined, and thus Saturn will > give the results of > Mars during his Dasa. During Saturn dasa he had his > highest level of > Raja yoga in Israel and later in Finland, but the > jealousy also followed > and he had to leave both jobs after his boss had put > him in a > problematic situation. Saturn aspects the tenth > house, and he found > himself in a problematic situation after his job > changes. He has not > followed much of the vedic remedies given to him, > yet he has his own > beliefs in this regard. A useful remedy is to wear a > blue sapphire on > the left hand ring finger to remedy this. > > These are just two examples. I hope this helps to > understand your > situation better. I recommend listening to the Atri > class mp3 regarding > the ninth house to learn more. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen > email: visti > <visti > For consultations and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > Manoj Sharma wrote: > > > > Dear Visti, > > just thought would share this small experience > with > > you. > > > > In my case, with Taurus ascendant, Saturn, the > ninth > > and 10 lord is in 11th. I am confining my > discussion > > only to gemstone. Saturn is not conjunct with any > > other planet. I thought Blue Sapphire would suit > me. I > > also got it corsschecked with Ms. Swee, and she > also > > corroborated this fact. About two months before, I > got > > a beautiful stone Blue Sapphire from Ms Swee's > contact > > in the US. The stone was of such a high quality > that I > > can't even describe it. However, within two hours > of > > wearing it, I started feeling very misreable. > There > > was a very good job offer in the offing. I had > cleared > > all the interviews and the employer had told me to > > standby for the offer letter. You may find it hard > to > > believe it, within three hours of wearing the > stone, I > > got a telephone call from my prospective employer > > informing that for the time being they have > shelved > > off the decision to hire for the said position. > > Usually, me and wife donot have even an argument. > That > > evening, I had a fierece argument with my wife. I > was > > so petrified that I removed the stone. > > It was as if that Saturn was placed malefic in my > > chart and I further strengthened it by wearing > Blue > > Sapphire. I just don't get this... > > This time there was no problem with the quality of > the > > stone. And my date of birth is recorded very very > > accurately (as accurately as it is humanly > possible). > > I just don't understand this man!!!! > > The only plausible explanation is that we may come > out > > with all sorts of theories, but if there is no > divine > > will, nothing works...and I say this with lot of > > conviction! > > Thanks for your time and space.... > > Manoj Sharma > > --- Visti Larsen <visti > <visti%40srigaruda.com>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > Dear Sishya, Namaskar > > > I cannot comment on the statements by Anuj-ji > and > > > Swee-ji regarding > > > gemstone replacement based on yoga. But, then > again > > > i don't know which > > > scriptures they are referring to. I would > appreciate > > > a reproduction of > > > the Saptarishi Nadi to gain a better > understanding > > > of prescription of > > > remedial measures. > > > Instead I will here supply the knowledge that I > have > > > attained from the > > > Parampara, and hope that its of use to you and > the > > > Gurus for their research. > > > *o Sambandha o* > > > > > > Sanjayji has clearly stated in his Atri lecture > on > > > the ninth house, that > > > parivartana or yuti with the ninth lord can make > it > > > necessary to change > > > the gemstone advise. > > > > > > Example: If ninth lord is in the sixth house and > > > sixth lord is in the > > > ninth house, thus forming a parivartana yoga, > then > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 JAI SRIRAM Dear Visti, If lagna lord has parivartna,then what is the lagna and paka lagna? For example in your chart in lagna has Sun and in leo Mars.Here Sun is act as a lagna lord,that means 1.which is the lagna lord Mars or Sun? 2.Which one is the lagna and paka lagna? Regards, S.Venkatesh Visti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Jim, NamaskarIf there is parivartana, then only apply parivartana. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsenemail: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com vedicastrostudent wrote: Dear Vistiji,Thank you very much for the illuminating write up. To echo what Sharat says, the only doubt that remains is the following case (of which Sharat's case is one example, my case is another and I'm sure many other people have very similar cases, so your one reply would probably help several people):1) If a graha 1 in House A is in parivartana with graha 2 in House B, and simultaneously in House A there are graha 3 and graha 4, then which of the following is true:Possibility 1 (Apply all rules only ONCE per graha in ORDER):Due to being the most important rule, parivartana causes graha 1 and graha 2 to exchange results. Graha 3 and graha 4 exchange results.Possibility 2: (Apply all rules REPEATEDLY and in ORDER)Parivartana causes graha 1 and graha 2 to exchange results. However graha 1 may also end up exchanging results with graha 3 due to secondary yuti principle. So, graha 2 gives the results of graha 1. Graha 3 gives the results of graha 2 (because it is taking up graha 1's after-parivartana role). Graha 1 gives the results of graha 3 (because it is taking up graha 3's role). Graha 4 gives its own results.There are more possibilities, but the above 2 feel like the most realistic ones. The question is, which one if any is correct?Thank you very much,Sundeep Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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