(To Visti)ratna and sambandha (Vistiji's Lecture on GemStones- questions

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Dear Soulsadhak,

Yes please feel free to analyze my chart. My info is:

29 June 1967, 23:00pm (reliably rectified by a very respected

guru on this group), +5:30GMT, 78E46, 22N12

 

Sundeep

 

sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote:

>

> Hi Sundeep,

>

> thanks for your response...

> your problem is definitely more complicated than mine with moon

> seems in a real soup :-!

>

> i have the Ju as retro and yes, in maraka - so I do have some

> apprehension of what u said re. that....but i have adopted YS

again

> recently beacuse of some other reason (!) - i was advised to

> strengthen my Ju since the Sa/Ma/Ra is choreographying problems

but

> sitting in Jupiter's house (2nd, Pis) and Mo was alone in Ju's

house

> in rasi, and alone but recieving full aspect in nav....so to

> stabilise the wavery moon, Ju is the answer. Now that was not for

> material aspects but rather a psycho-spiritual issue and i had

> posted on this group. Please note, the learned members advised to

> strengthen Ju (quite valuably) and actaully have not advised

> (neither for/against) any gem per se - it's only my experimenation

> with caution that's going on...

>

> as for Sa/Ma/Ra in 2nd, well, in initial phases after marriage, i

> did go thru feelings of restriction from career as well as

financial

> point of view - but i am also a spiritually inclined person and i

> find my solutions thru prayers and meditation (Mo in sag!) so i

have

> my respite - despite adversities....God's Grace of course.

>

> would you mind sending your birth details - i'll see what i can

work

> out (with whatever limited knowledge i have) and we may carry on

> our " sharing of woes " in pvt loop if u want.

>

> God Bless

> SS

>

>

> sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent "

> <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear soulsadhak,

> >

> > Thanks much for your reply. Although I feel your case is much

> > clearer. Because, applying what I understood of Visti's writeup

to

> > your case, wearing a stone for Jupiter will actually strengthen

> > Jupiter, since it has no conjunctions or parivartans, so that is

> > clearly good. My only doubt is Jupiter, ruler of 2 in 7, is

> probably

> > a first rate maraka, so I would be interested in knowing your

> > thoughts on that - is it ok to strengthen a maraka or not?

> >

> > In my case, if I wear Saturn's stone, then by the conjunction

> > principle that Visti wrote about, it will have the effects of

> Moon,

> > which I surely dont want. If I wear Moon's stone, then it

> conjuncts

> > Saturn and is in parivartan with Jupiter, so I'm not sure which

> > effect it will have. With Venus's stone, Venus conjuncts

Jupiter,

> so

> > I'm wondering if it will actually be good for me (Venus

mahadasha

> > has been and continues to be especially challenging, I'm in Ve-

Ju

> > now)..

> >

> > And you're correct, gems do catch the fancy, especially since I

> read

> > that Visti said that by offering the right prayers when wearing

> it,

> > you permanently imbue it with the right characteristics.. That

got

> > me interested again..

> >

> > Of course, I'm still always interested in Sattwic remedies too,

> but

> > my mantra knowledge is very very weak. I would be interested in

> your

> > input on that, if you have any..

> >

> > Thanks much again for your input, and also, if you dont mind my

> > asking, has the Saturn Mars Rahu conjunction in 2nd aspecting

8th

> > given you primarily financial troubles, or what? Doesnt look

like

> > you would have marital troubles, since you have the protection

of

> > Jupiter in the 7th (you dont have to answer this at all unless

you

> > want to, and pardon me if you feel I'm prying)

> >

> > Sundeep

> >

> > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > hi sundeep,

> > >

> > > sorry, your question is to Visti,

> > > i jumped in as i kinda share your predicament here

> > > - i too have aquarius lagna (having Su),

> > > so venus is badhakesh and moreover placed in dushsthana (12th

> cap

> > > with MeR in my case) - so i am skeptical about using diamond

(as

> > > suggested by someone saying it's yogakarak so will be good!)

> > > ... another someone suggested Blue sapphire since Sa is

lagnesh

> > and

> > > L-12 and placed in 2nd pisces (placed with Ma and Ra in my

case -

>

> > > making me a real nutcase)- i wear an amethyst instead for

> > > now....still skeptical about wearing blue sapphire - i already

> am

> > so

> > > saturnine (but will try ;-).

> > > the positive point about your moon is that it is conj Ju in

nav

> > (in

> > > mine Ju aspects as opp. Mo asc. in sag nav), my moon in rasi

is

> in

> > > sag with no planet 2nd/12th from itself and JuR in 7th leo.

> > > ...some have suggested Gomed (since my Mo is in swati

nakshatra)!

> > >

> > > the gem prescriptions seem so complicated esp. if one goes on

to

> > see

> > > the charts other that rasi chart or max rasi+nav charts!! the

> > > prescription conflicts with one or the other placment across

> > various

> > > charts for the native!

> > >

> > > I wear yellowsapphire, rose quartz and amethyst for now.

Yellow

> > > sapphire to strenghthen my Ju and save trouble from lone moon

in

> > > rasi....and am still experimenting!

> > >

> > > at the end of the day i still believe sattvic remedies fetch

> > > benefits without side effects .... but gems catch our fancy -

> dont

> > > they?

> > >

> > > God Bless

> > > Soul Sadhak

> > > sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent "

> > > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Visti,

> > > >

> > > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart

is

> in

> > > > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so

> far,

> > > > truthfully speaking:

> > > >

> > > > In my chart:

> > > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second

> house

> > in

> > > > Pisces.

> > > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th

> > > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th

> > > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in

> > scorpio

> > > > navamsa too.

> > > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha

> chart.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed.

Please

> > > confirm.

> > > > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe

> > Moon

> > > is

> > > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those

> > > tendencies,

> > > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful.

> > > >

> > > > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have

> Venus

> > AK

> > > in

> > > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in

> Marana).

> > > From

> > > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will

> > either

> > > > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon

> (which

> > it

> > > is

> > > > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is

the

> > only

> > > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So

> > what

> > > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good?

> Presumably

> > > that

> > > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana

and

> > > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance

> any

> > > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite

> bad.

> > > If I

> > > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter

> > > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)?

> > > >

> > > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible..

> > > >

> > > > My birthdata is:

> > > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Sundeep

> > > >

> > >

> >

>