(To Visti)ratna and sambandha (Vistiji's Lecture on GemStones- questions

December 27, 2006

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Anuj,

Namaste

Sundeep’s chart of, course.

Love,

Swee

On 12/27/06 8:18 PM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology wrote:

Namaste Sri Swee

Which chart are you referring to? Sri Soul's or Sri Sundeep's?

Sri Soul's chart I have from an earlier discussion. Sri Sundeep's chart I made again this time.

Thanks and Regards

Bharat (Anuj)

On 12/27/06, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Anuj,

Namaste

Are you reading the right chart?

Love,

Swee

On 12/27/06 2:02 PM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology <http://gmail.com> > wrote:

Namaste Sri Sundeep

I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti.

Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby alone but in combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone for your chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing gemstones. I shall mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them.

Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you. Aquamarine would also suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too. Blue Sapphire should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It will be applicable later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your work table.

Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in the neck using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu.

Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday.

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

On 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent <http://> > wrote:

Dear Visti,

My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is in

question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so far,

truthfully speaking:

In my chart:

1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second house in

Pisces.

2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th

3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th

4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in scorpio

navamsa too.

5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha chart.

Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please confirm.

I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe Moon is

in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those tendencies,

angers and sorrows are also plentiful.

From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have Venus AK in

6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in Marana). From

your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will either

give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon (which it is

in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the only

thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So what

should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably that

should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and

Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance any

negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite bad. If I

wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter

(parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)?

Please advise. A clear path is not visible..

My birthdata is:

29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT.

Thanks,

Sundeep

December 28, 2006

Namaste Sri SweeIt is good to explain what bothers oneself especially when people are apart and misunderstandings can rise. Do not worry, I would not take your statements as a personal attack.True it is an open forum and I, from my previous posts have shared whatever little I have and will continue to do so. When I send a personal message to someone, it may be because of following:

1. It is about something personal and cannot be discussed in a public forum.2. If it is a personal work - Like when I wanted an emerald or now when I want a Large size rock of Lapis Lazuli or Black Onyx. For the second case, I had sent emails to you and Sri Gaurav, as I need this for religious purposes. I feel I should not involve the public forum for such purposes. I am not sure why would you disapprove my contacting someone to collect prices, etc. about buying an emerald. I did not know Sri Bipin is not an expert. The costs he specified in his email where quite high and rendered unsuitable. Whether internet sells cheap stones are not, has got nothing to do with our discussion. People will buy what they can afford and we have no right to say that they are buying " cheap internet stones " . The worth of a gemstone is not decided either by you or me. My views may be different from yours in this regard. I do not seek to change your views. Lastly, I usually take you in the loop for any private discussion regarding gemstones. I know you are interested in gemstones and live and breathe them, so I share with you. If such personal discussions are welcomed by you, you should not feel bad about certain personal discussions that I may have with natives regarding their own chart. I hope this clarifies the issues that you have raised and we can move along together in learning astrology and gemstones and more.Thanks and RegardsBharat (Anuj)

On 12/28/06, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Anuj,

Namaste

Please understand that this is not a personal attack. I loathe to say this, but why do you feel the need to write private messages to members of the list when this is an open forum and should be regarded as such.

We can all learn from one another in an open forum.

Much to my disapproval, you wrote to one of my students; (a layman at that!) and queried about Zimbabwean emeralds, production, prices etc. The copy sent to you was worthless material taken off the internet.

Love,

Swee

On 12/27/06 8:18 PM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology > wrote:

Namaste Sri Soul

Cat's eye wouldn't suit you. Please refer to our earlier private discussion.

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

On 12/27/06, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

Dear Bharatji,

Amethyst works fine for me - kinda soothes my frenzied nerves and

besides, i love the color violet.

(blue + red = violet/purple)- if u read b/w lines u'll know what i

mean.

mundanely, amethyst is also for aquarius sun-sign (like for me) as

per western astro and it is also supposed to work to keep spouse

from straying away (if kept under bed tied with red string - that's

what chinese feng-shui says! - have'nt done that though myself :-)

havent tried Rhodolite and Smoky quartz yet, but willing to give it

a go - esp yes, i wanted to know if Cat's eye would be ok for me (Ke

in 8th vir from lagna but 12th from Mo in rasi, also 12th from AK in

nav as per parashara light softwr)- base chakra workings have been

going on for almost 2 years now otherwise with yogic and SY

practices and not to forget, Ganesha's Grace....except an issue of

fear lurks somtimes but i guess that's being sorted out - will try

smoky quartz as u said.. (my hubby already calls me an astro-jerk ;-)

sohamsa <sohamsa%40>

, " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

<hinduastrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Soul

>

> Have you tried using Rhodolite (Reddish-Purplish Garnet)? It is a

stone that

> is likely to suit you.

>

> Amethyst will suit you and please do share your experience of

wearing it. I

> have found such lovely properties of this gemstone. It is like a

God gift in

> a tormented world.

>

> Stabilize base chakra using Smoky Quartz.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 12/27/06, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

> >

> > hi sundeep,

> >

> > sorry, your question is to Visti,

> > i jumped in as i kinda share your predicament here

> > - i too have aquarius lagna (having Su),

> > so venus is badhakesh and moreover placed in dushsthana (12th cap

> > with MeR in my case) - so i am skeptical about using diamond (as

> > suggested by someone saying it's yogakarak so will be good!)

> > ... another someone suggested Blue sapphire since Sa is lagnesh

and

> > L-12 and placed in 2nd pisces (placed with Ma and Ra in my case -

> > making me a real nutcase)- i wear an amethyst instead for

> > now....still skeptical about wearing blue sapphire - i already

am so

> > saturnine (but will try ;-).

> > the positive point about your moon is that it is conj Ju in nav

(in

> > mine Ju aspects as opp. Mo asc. in sag nav), my moon in rasi is

in

> > sag with no planet 2nd/12th from itself and JuR in 7th leo.

> > ...some have suggested Gomed (since my Mo is in swati nakshatra)!

> >

> > the gem prescriptions seem so complicated esp. if one goes on to

see

> > the charts other that rasi chart or max rasi+nav charts!! the

> > prescription conflicts with one or the other placment across

various

> > charts for the native!

> >

> > I wear yellowsapphire, rose quartz and amethyst for now. Yellow

> > sapphire to strenghthen my Ju and save trouble from lone moon in

> > rasi....and am still experimenting!

> >

> > at the end of the day i still believe sattvic remedies fetch

> > benefits without side effects .... but gems catch our fancy -

dont

> > they?

> >

> > God Bless

> > Soul Sadhak

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>

<sohamsa%40gro ups.com

<http://ups.com> >,

> > " vedicastrostudent "

> >

> > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Visti,

> > >

> > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is

in

> > > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so

far,

> > > truthfully speaking:

> > >

> > > In my chart:

> > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second

house in

> > > Pisces.

> > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th

> > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th

> > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in

scorpio

> > > navamsa too.

> > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha

chart.

> > >

> > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please

> > confirm.

> > > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe

Moon

> > is

> > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those

> > tendencies,

> > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful.

> > >

> > > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have

Venus AK

> > in

> > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in

Marana).

> > From

> > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will

either

> > > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon

(which it

> > is

> > > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the

only

> > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So

what

> > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably

> > that

> > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and

> > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance

any

> > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite

bad.

> > If I

> > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter

> > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)?

> > >

> > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible..

> > >

> > > My birthdata is:

> > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Sundeep

> > >

> >

>

December 28, 2006

Namaste Sri SundeepJust a small note for now,When one accepts it is not with the view of overcoming all problems. It is due to the fact that results are in the hands of the Lord. Therefore, you only relate to the Lord. Bodily discomforts are accepted too and one understands one has to exercise, etc towards removing them. The past karmas regenerate through our reactions to the current, past or possible future situations. These in turn generate more karma. Through acceptance, one does not generate more karma. Some part of karma that was to come due to wrong habits would no longer afflict. Some stronger karma may still come, but you wouldn't regenerate it. Do not worry about burning karma and then, accepting. If you accept, burning of karmas happen automatically. Then, it is up to Ma to bring whatever to your life. There is much more to it...cannot be discussed over the internet.

Shall reply in detail about the gemstone and other remedies.Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 12/28/06, vedicastrostudent <

vedicastrostudent wrote:

Dear Bharatji,

> To a person who is accepting and meditative (not doing

meditation), Saturn

> does not attack, Mars cannot cause problems, Rahu-Ketu salute it.

Ma Shakti

> protects in a major way.

>

Yes of course this is true. But there are some qualifications to

these statements, which I have also found to be true for myself - a

sort of cold water splash in the face if you will.

I believe a person who is accepting and meditative can overcome all

kinds of problems using just that approach only if he has burned

enough karma that it doesnt present him with impossibly hard

situations for his current level of detachment. Otherwise there will

be a huge relapse into attachment..

Thats the theoretical statement, an analogy explains it better: For

example, if you have heart trouble and you resolve to start working

out from today to improve your heart condition. Ten days into this

working out, your heart again gives you trouble (e.g. heart attack

or such). You must resort to medicine to stabilize yourself before

again continuing on your heart strengthening workout routine.

In fact, you probably will need to take some medicine even in order

to do some workout well after the heart attack is over.

However, 2 years into the routine, and simply the routine itself

will be enough to deal with the triggers that would otherwise have

culminated in a heart attack.

The cold water splash for me is - I havent reached that level. I

find that when I try to be detached, for sure I have some good

experiences. But life does seem to need me to deal with other

things. My detachment leads to a lack of interest in things that are

necessary for me to do (for the well being of my wife, kids, parents

etc). And then things go out of control, and I have to come back

with a bang (with lots of angers and frustrations in the process) to

deal with the situation. I know that of course I should summon the

energy to perform my duties even without being attached to them. But

that is easier said than done. The ability to summon energy (mental

I mean) to perform a task while being detached from it is the end

goal, almost the gold at the end of the rainbow. Before you reach

it, in order to reach it, you must remain attached enough to do your

duties..

When some Gurus say that it is not for everyone to renounce, or

perhaps not the right time to renounce, the above is what I make of

it for my life.

And hence my interest in a gem. I am hoping a gem is like a medicine

that helps lessen the impact of heart attack like karmic situations,

so that I can continue my working out (meditative nature building)

until that nature finally gets strong enough for me to be able to

discard the gems altogether..

Sundeep

January 8, 2007

Dear Swee-ji,

Pardon my continued questioning, but I do still have some doubts

(inlined)..

sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Sundeep,

> Namaste

>

> Your Jupiter has much dignity in vaiseshikamsa and is also a

Yogada and

> takes lion share of the divisional charts. The sub period

continues until

> 2009 so why not consider his gemstone? It is in Yuva avashtha

which is

> better than Mercury whose avastha is in mrita. Its current transit

is in

> Scorpio, with co-lords Mars and Ketu whom Guru is friends with. He

also

> aspects the 10th and 2nd. Guru is the karaka for wealth amongst

other

> things. Wealth in knowledge, through your children, through

ancestors -

> father's fathers and your own father.

> The AV of 10th is 32 and saving grace of Jupiter's points at 7,

higher than

> all other planets in your chart.

Yes I see all this. So it is clear that you too (like Bharatji) do

NOT to the theory that results are exchanged by planets in

parivartana or conjunction? Because if you recommend a stone for

Jupiter, you clearly dont believe it will give the results for Moon

or Venus, because those results would be clearly bad, correct?

However, I must say I am a little confused about Jupiter's results.

Since Jupiter antara started in about May 2006, my financial

problems immediately jumped into sharp focus. Since late March 2006,

something happened to me physically too, I have no idea exactly

what, but my energy levels are down to about 50% of what they used

to be (very suddenly) and my food intake has been cut to 1/3rd of

what I used to eat (with no weight loss). Its like I aged 20 years

in one month (I am only 39). Medical tests say I'm " ok " . All this

approximately since Jupiter antara started. Also in Oct 2006, when

Saturn transited over my natal Venus AK, simultaneously: (a) my

house went up for sale (b) my dad went into hospital with multiple

infections are fear of septicemia © my wife was on the absolute

edge for fear of losing the house (d) job stress continued as

always. Miraculously, when Saturn entered Leo suddenly everything

improved, I was able to actually increase my loans for a lower

payment and keep my house, and my dad recovered. That is where I am

right now, a precarious place, nonetheless somewhat safer. But all

this since Jupiter started - so I want to be sure - do you really

think that enhancing Jupiter wont send everything over the edge one

more time?

>

> The agnostic inclination is from your retrograde Mercury in the

5th.

Really - I must say I'm a bit surprised? I thought that my Venus AK

had been fully replaced by Mercury as AK and that was causing me to

be more spiritual rather than less. Wouldnt you agree that if

Mercury is the cause of agnosticism in my chart, that Mercury

replacing Venus as AK would cause agnosticism to come to the fore

rather than go into remission?

Eagerly awaiting your valued input,

thanks,

Sundeep

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

> On 1/5/07 11:10 PM, " vedicastrostudent " <vedicastrostudent

wrote:

>

> > Dear Sweeji,

> > My relationship with my mother is ok, but my parents are in

India

> > while I am in the US. So not a lot of contact, except regular

phone

> > calls and visits. My mom has had osteoarthiritis and a lot of

pain

> > from it even before 2002. In mid 2005 she had total knee

replacement

> > surgery and subsequent intense pain until late 2005-early 2006

when

> > the knee replacement's benefits started kicking in.

> >

> > However, in general, in terms of relationships, I cant say I have

> > had a single trouble free relationship ever since Venus dasha

> > started, 11 yrs ago. Its just that the amount of stress in each

> > relationship varies. April 02 is significant in the sense that in

> > May and August of 02 my wife had 2 miscarriages back to back and

> > that was very hard (against the backdrop of regular stresses). It

> > coincides with a burst of spirituality and rejection of

> > atheism/agnosticism in my heart, although I am still struggling

to

> > find the correct place for spirituality in my life.

> >

> > I got onto this topic a few weeks ago (answering your question of

> > why I came to this list) because I became interested again in a

> > gemstone solution to my various problems. Financial problems

seem to

> > be the focus these days. Been in a lot of debt since 2001, and

> > constantly managing it is very stressful. I was thinking Moon in

> > Ghora shastyamsa, 6th lord, with Saturn in 2nd aspected by Mars,

> > debilitated in Navamsa was the source, so Vistiji's original

comment

> > on planet's exchanging results and hence exchanging gemstones

got me

> > interested in finding a way to use a benefic's influence somehow

to

> > relieve the problems..

> > I also have lots of charakaraka replacements, with no planets in

> > kendras at all, so quite a big mess overall.

> >

> > Anyway, so that's the gist of why I'm here right now..

> >

> > Thanks very much for your input..

> >

> > Sundeep

> >

> > sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan@> wrote:

> >>

> >> Jaya Jagannatha

> >>

> >> Dear Sundeep,

> >> Namaste

> >>

> >> Mercury is all about communications. Placed in the 5th and in

> > retrograde

> >> motion means you are npt able to put your feelings through. Moon

> > conjoining

> >> Saturn would make you significantly more aloof. How was

> > relationship with

> >> your mother? And during this period of your badhakesh Venus, it

> > will have

> >> begun rearing its full results from April 02. Doesn¹t this make

it

> > sound

> >> like your wife¹s constant reminder is becoming too much of a

nag?

> > Since I

> >> have not followed your discussions so far, can you tell me what

> > made you

> >> come to this list in the first place? I wonder about that Moon

and

> > Jupiter

> >> in randhra in navamsa more of a concern to me. Time to offer

> > ancestral

> >> oblations and keep your pockets open ³for a good dip².

> >>

> >> Love,

> >>

> >> Swee

> >>

> >> On 1/4/07 11:04 PM, " vedicastrostudent " <vedicastrostudent@>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >>>

> >>> Sweeji and Bharatji,

> >>> I am carefully following (or trying to follow) your

discussion.

> >>> Sweeji's original observation are absolutely correct - my

wife's

> >>> prime complaint against me is that I dont express myself :-)

> >>> However, I used to think that was because of the state of the

> > Moon

> >>> in my chart. Sweeji seems to conclude it from Mars and Saturn's

> >>> dristi on Mercury, and Bharatji seems to conclude it from the

> >>> position of Venus (that would have been my other guess).

However,

> >>> Bharatji's other comment is very intriguing (and correct) -

> > " there

> >>> is a barrier between what goes in the mind and what is

> > expressed " .

> >>>

> >>> So do you both have some kind of agreement, then? Sweeji's

> >>> observation that Mercury is a functional malefic bereft of

> > benefic

> >>> aspects is a bit worrisome. However, I have been through

Mercury

> >>> vimshottari mahadasha and some antaras too - so some feedback:

> >>> Mercury-Mercury is a bit hazy in my mind (back in the early

70s),

> >>> but I know it wasnt too great (fears and unhappiness related to

> >>> school), except in terms of experiencing nature in Africa as a

> >>> child, which was mind-blowing. Mercury-Sun (back in India) was

> >>> absolutely stellar - made great strides in education, generally

> >>> happy. Ketu-Sun in the US was also excellent - did most of my

MS

> >>> work in those few months. Ketu-Mercury in the US was also

> > absolutely

> >>> stellar - did most of my PhD work in that one year (Ketu-Saturn

> >>> right before it was terrible for my mind, by comparison, right

> >>> before Ketu-Mercury). Venus-Sun was again very good - made a

> > mark in

> >>> my profession.

> >>>

> >>> So on the whole, I think have had generally good experiences in

> >>> Mercury/Sun antaras..

> >>>

> >>> Thanks for your continued interest,

> >>>

> >>> Sundeep

> >>>

> >>> sohamsa <sohamsa%

> > 40> , " Bharat

> >>> Hindu Astrology "

> >>> <hinduastrology@> wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Namaste Sri Swee

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Mooltrikona lordship is always more important, if the lord is

> > not

> >>> located in

> >>>>> the 2nd house that it owns. Out of the 5th house and 8th

> > house,

> >>> 8th house is

> >>>>> more malefic than the 5th. Here:

> >>>>> 1. Dagdha Rasi is in 8th - Positive

> >>>>> 2. Dagdha Rasi is in the 5th - Negative. But lord of Dagdha

> > Rasi

> >>> in 5th so

> >>>>> positive.

> >>>>> 3. Yuti of Yogi-Avayogi in 5th house - Positive

> >>>>> 4. Yuti of Yogi-Avayogi in Dagdha Rasi - mixed results

> >>>>> 5. Avayogi is the lagna lord - negative

> >>>>> 6. Avayogi in Duplicate Yogi's nakshatra - mixed results

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Mercury does not have graha drishti of malefics. Budha-Aditya

> > yoga

> >>>>> enlightens the 5th house. The harm that Mars does is also

> >>> controlled through

> >>>>> Mercury in this chart. The dasha lord is in Mercury's

> > nakshatra.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Purely on gemstones remedies, I think Emerald is a fine

choice

> >>> with Ruby.

> >>>>> Other remedies for Mars and Saturn should be done but we'd

not

> >>> discuss them

> >>>>> for now.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Expression to wife is likely to improve after wearing an

> > Emerald.

> >>> Venus in

> >>>>> the 6th usually gives issues with all kinds of expression.

> > There

> >>> is a

> >>>>> barrier between what goes in the mind and what is expressed.

> > Not

> >>> going into

> >>>>> that now, I still think Emerald and Ruby combo is nice.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> If he were here in Delhi, I'd give him my spare emerald and

> > ruby

> >>> to try on

> >>>>> for a couple of days, if he wanted to check the results.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Thanks and Regards

> >>>>> Bharat

> >>>>>

> >>>>> On 1/4/07, Swee Chan <sweechan@> wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Dear Bharat,

> >>>>>>> Namaste

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Another sloka from the same chapter on the 5th House:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> *sutasya nAshaH kathitotra tatj~naiH subhairadR^iShTe

> > sutabhe

> >>>>>>> sutesho||114||

> >>>>>>> *

> >>>>>>> One well versed say that the 5th house and its lord should

> > be

> >>> bereft of

> >>>>>>> benefic aspects for this loss.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> In the same vein from the continuation of the first sloka

> > as

> >>> given,

> >>>>>>> Mercury is the *moolatrikona *lord of the 8th conjoins

> > lord of

> >>> the 6th

> >>>>>>> (diseases, enemies etc) and this same Mercury is in rashi

> >>> drishti with two

> >>>>>>> other malefics, Mars and Saturn. Mercury does not get

> > beneficial

> >>> aspects

> >>>>>>> from Jupiter or Venus the natural benefics.

> >>>>>>> Besides bhakti and progeny, I am sure Sundeep finds it

> > hard to

> >>> express his

> >>>>>>> real feelings to his wife and children.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> This is how I was taught in the Iyer method: Iyer also

> > takes

> >>> into account

> >>>>>>> of the moolatrikona stance of a planet and its no

> > different from

> >>> any other

> >>>>>>> classics. His point is that a malefic placed in a malefic

> > house

> >>> or in dagdha

> >>>>>>> rasi bodes well. This is also mentioned in the same book

> > and the

> >>> idea is

> >>>>>>> based in VRY. The 5-9 yoga is considered to be a malefic

> > yoga

> >>> and will give

> >>>>>>> anything but beneficial. Mercury besides being a functional

> >>> malefic is also

> >>>>>>> a natural malefic because of its conjunction with the Sun.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Except for the Sun and Moon, all other planets (not

> > including

> >>> Rahu-Ketu)

> >>>>>>> preside over two signs. One is the moolatrina which we

> >>> understand is the

> >>>>>>> " office " and the other is the planet's own sign which we

> >>> understand as its

> >>>>>>> own " home " . This basic understanding has already been

> > elaborated

> >>> on as above

> >>>>>>> (and below).

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Love,

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Swee

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> On 1/4/07 11:33 AM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> > <hinduastrology@>

> >>>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Namaste Sri Swee

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Of all the combinations given for grief and of death, do

> > they

> >>> come to

> >>>>>>> pass? No.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Secondly, 8th lord effects of Mercury are greatly reduced

> > since

> >>> it is in

> >>>>>>> the 5th house and in its own sign. The greater good

> > capacity of

> >>> Mercury

> >>>>>>> becomes evident. I have already explained about yogi and

> > dagdha

> >>> rasi.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Mercury is also the lord of the nakshatra of the lagna

> > lord.

> >>> This greatly

> >>>>>>> increases its life giving properties than life taking ones.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Thanks and Regards

> >>>>>>> Bharat

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> On 1/4/07, *Swee Chan* <sweechan@> wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Jaya Jagannatha

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Dear Bharat,

> >>>>>>> Namaste

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> The dialogue between Shiva and Parvati from Jyotishanava

> >>> Navanitam Ch 2

> >>>>>>> sloka 1

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> *kArakagrahasaMyukto bhAvassklpaphalapradaH|

> >>>>>>> kArakagraharAshisthaH pApastatphalanAshaH||1||

> >>>>>>> *

> >>>>>>> The house that is occupied by a cencerned significator will

> >>> yield limited

> >>>>>>> results.

> >>>>>>> If there is a malefic planet, the indications concerning

> > that

> >>> house owned

> >>>>>>> by its dispositor will be destroyed.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Implying that a malefic will destroy the karakatwa effects

> > of its

> >>>>>>> dispositor.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> To understand what is meant by (functional) malefics, the

> > next

> >>> sloka is

> >>>>>>> given:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> *yeyegrahA dharmapabudbhapAbhyAmyuktAshca

> >>> dR^iSTAshcashubhapradAsyaH|

> >>>>>>> sndhreshvarAri vyayapairyutAshceccokaprado

> > mArakanAyakeShu||2

> >>>>>>> *

> >>>>>>> Planets that are related to the lords of the 9th and the

> > 5th

> >>> houses either

> >>>>>>> by aspect or conjunction will prove auspicious

> >>>>>>> Grief and death will be the result if planets are

> > conjoined with

> >>> the lords

> >>>>>>> of the 8th, 6th and 12th houses.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Love,

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Swee

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> On 1/4/07 10:04 AM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> > <hinduastrology@

> >>>>>>> <http://gmail.com> <http://gmail.com> > wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Namaste Sri Sundeep

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Responses below in Blue:

> >>>>>>> 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking

> > into

> >>>>>>> account the fact that Emerald would give the results of

> > the Sun,

> >>> due

> >>>>>>> to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart?

> > Similarly,

> >>> would

> >>>>>>> Ruby give the results of Mercury?

> >>>>>>> No, I am not. Mercury has its own nature and it does not

> >>> exchange it. Two

> >>>>>>> grahas can work for each other but do not change their

> > inherent

> >>> nature.

> >>>>>>> Mercury would give its own results. Sun its own.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a

> > gem for

> >>> the

> >>>>>>> lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation

> >>> (father,

> >>>>>>> mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any

> > negative

> >>>>>>> karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge

> >>> problems

> >>>>>>> with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem.

> > Lets

> >>> say it

> >>>>>>> does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of

> > view,

> >>> she

> >>>>>>> was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly

> > stopped.

> >>> How

> >>>>>>> would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem

> > cannot

> >>>>>>> affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested

> > in this

> >>>>>>> because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically

> > be the

> >>> 2nd

> >>>>>>> from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother.

> >>>>>>> Given a similar logic one should not wear the lagna lord's

> >>> gemstone since

> >>>>>>> it is 12th for family and markesh for wife. The chart is of

> >>> oneself and not

> >>>>>>> of others. Others have their own charts. When we give a

> > remedy

> >>> or a gemstone

> >>>>>>> to alleviate problems with wife or so, it is not to mould

> > the

> >>> wife but to

> >>>>>>> seek protection from forces causing harm Or to bring

> > internal

> >>> change such

> >>>>>>> that certain reactiveness, non-acceptance, etc. is

> > countered,

> >>> etc.. That is

> >>>>>>> why we match charts for matchmaking too - such that two

> > person

> >>> combine in

> >>>>>>> their natural energies towards positivity and prosperity.

> > If

> >>> only one chart

> >>>>>>> was to dictate everything, then, no need for matching

> > charts

> >>> either. Many

> >>>>>>> such examples can be given. Therefore, 5th Lord

> > strengthening is

> >>> not for

> >>>>>>> causing harm to your mother but to strengthen dharma in

> > you.

> >>> Your mother's

> >>>>>>> chart will dictate what gemstone is harmful for her to

> > wear.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> I hope it is clear.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Thanks and Regards

> >>>>>>> Bharat

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> On 1/4/07, *vedicastrostudent* < vedicastrostudent@

> >>>>>>> <http://> <http://>

> >>>>>>> <vedicastrostudent@> <vedicastrostudent@> >

> >>>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Dear Bharatji,

> >>>>>>> A very happy new year to you and all others who are

> > reading this

> >>>>>>> post. Thanks very much for the explanation of your

> >>> recommendations.

> >>>>>>> I have two additional questions and would be very grateful

> > if you

> >>>>>>> could respond.

> >>>>>>> 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking

> > into

> >>>>>>> account the fact that Emerald would give the results of

> > the Sun,

> >>> due

> >>>>>>> to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart?

> > Similarly,

> >>> would

> >>>>>>> Ruby give the results of Mercury?

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a

> > gem for

> >>> the

> >>>>>>> lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation

> >>> (father,

> >>>>>>> mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any

> > negative

> >>>>>>> karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge

> >>> problems

> >>>>>>> with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem.

> > Lets

> >>> say it

> >>>>>>> does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of

> > view,

> >>> she

> >>>>>>> was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly

> > stopped.

> >>> How

> >>>>>>> would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem

> > cannot

> >>>>>>> affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested

> > in this

> >>>>>>> because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically

> > be the

> >>> 2nd

> >>>>>>> from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Thanks

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Sundeep

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> sohamsa <sohamsa%

> > 40>

> >>>>> <sohamsa%

> >>> 40><sohamsa%40>

> >>>>>>> <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%

> >>> 40> , " Bharat

> >>>>>>> Hindu Astrology "

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> <hinduastrology@> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Namaste Sri Sundeep

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> A few important things: Each person's destiny is

> > separate.

> >>> Their

> >>>>>>> seemingly

> >>>>>>>>> intermingling nature is because the Lord programs it in

> > that

> >>> way.

> >>>>>>> Periods of

> >>>>>>>>> sorrow and despair for family members are programmed

> > with

> >>> sickness

> >>>>>>> of one

> >>>>>>>>> member. Though the destiny seem to join, they are

> > apart. The

> >>> proof

> >>>>>>> comes

> >>>>>>>>> from the unattached, who are not affected or hardly

> > affected in

> >>>>>>> crisis,

> >>>>>>>>> etc...

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Keeping the above in mind, your wearing of a red thread

> > must

> >>> have

> >>>>>>> coincided

> >>>>>>>>> with your father's ill health. To be sure, it is

> > essential to

> >>>>>>> check what the

> >>>>>>>>> havan was about and whether

>

January 8, 2007

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sundeep,

Namaste

Planets in the appropriate drekkanas give their results in full is realised with Jupiter in its exaltation sign in the 2nd drekkana. To further understand this, we need to calculate the graha samaya and hopefully get a finer grasp of this.

Jupiter is in Ratna Pariksha and its dispositor is in Bhojana samaya. To be

Good food is Venus and Sun or especially Mars can keep your weight in check. You have missed the transits of Rahu who hovered in your 2nd house with Saturn and malefic Moon. Rahu would have given its results (good) +/- May/June 2005 until the end of the year. Thereafter, its nature is to take it away - that is the house of dhan.

In the matter of looking at the 3 malefics in rasi drishti over the rest of the aspected dual signs, you also forgot to assess the natal planets that are placed in those signs. The past year since Nov 2005- Oct 2006 would have been most difficult where savings is concerned. The tithis that are important for you are ashtami tithis especially Amavasya which I recommend that a believer in the Supreme should offer the Gopal Saharanaam, said to remove all curses. Why not try it, the first one of this solar year is a few days after makara sankranti.

Jupiter is the largest planet and its nature is that the person has a tendency to put on weight. The rasi drishti to your kendras also protects your health - naisargika karaka is the Sun and they are both friends. Your notion that Jupiter has given the weight loss is incorrect. Many classic say that bad diets etc and related diseases are compounded by Saturn and like his counterpart Rahu, both indicate the same (hidden diseases). Saturn gives the emaciated look.

For conveyances including fixed assets, Venus is the 4th house ruler and its malfeasance gets diluted through association with Jupiter. We also need to consider a well placed Moon, whose dispositor is that of Jupiter and the 11th moolatrikona lord. In one stanza in Jyotisharnava Navanitam, if the 4th occupies an angle (which it is not in your case) in conjunction with the 10th lord and Saturn, one will acquire a huge building. Jupiter's aspect and dispositor placed in the 2nd house in a round about way satisfies this condition together with the association of Venus in rasi and Venus's exaltation in the navamsa.

Note that the sudasa of Cancer during AD of Sg and Sc ran concurrently from Au 06 and Sc will last until Apr 2007. To confirm the positive period, Chara Dasa of Cancer began during 29th June 2006 and will end in 2010 - and this is all connected with exalted Jupiter in Simhasana vaiseshikamsa.

Most likely, your distress in the ownership of a house of whom the karaka is Mars. The moola mahadasa Mars in antardasa of Mercury - 5th AUG 2005 - 16TH OCT 2006 –you can calculate the exact timings from this yourself.

Drig Dasa is currenlty in Capricorn and Saturn shows the initial selflessness in you, but the 5th is the house of bhakti of which the rashi drishti on all kendras are empty. So without planets in there, what can we expect? A dithering (retrograde) planet in a playful sign in rashi drishti by malefics will make you the doubting Thomas of the higher Being.

A gemstone or the piece of silver or the pure golden image made out to represent a particular deity is to help us to extirpate His wrath due to bad placements of planets. These exclude trik lords. For those lords, pray hard and hope that you can sail through the havoc they can cause.

There are just to many aspects to look into; you’ve had more than a lion share and I hope you'll enjoy the rest of your studies.

love,

Swee

On 1/8/07 7:31 AM, " vedicastrostudent " <vedicastrostudent wrote:

Dear Swee-ji,

Pardon my continued questioning, but I do still have some doubts

(inlined)..

sohamsa <sohamsa%40> , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: