(To Visti)ratna and sambandha (Vistiji's Lecture on GemStones- questions

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sri SundeepI am intruding to your post to Sri Visti.Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby alone but in combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone for your chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing gemstones. I shall mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them. Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you. Aquamarine would also suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too. Blue Sapphire should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It will be applicable later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your work table. Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in the neck using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu. Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday. Thanks and RegardsBharat

On 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is in

question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so far,

truthfully speaking:

 

In my chart:

1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second house in

Pisces.

2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th

3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th

4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in scorpio

navamsa too.

5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha chart.

 

Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please confirm.

I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe Moon is

in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those tendencies,

angers and sorrows are also plentiful.

 

From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have Venus AK in

6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in Marana). From

your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will either

give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon (which it is

in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the only

thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So what

should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably that

should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and

Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance any

negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite bad. If I

wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter

(parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)?

 

Please advise. A clear path is not visible..

 

My birthdata is:

29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT.

 

Thanks,

 

Sundeep

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sri Soul and Sri SundeepNothing Rajasic or Tamasic about wearing Gemstones. Anything that is done prayerfully and with reverence is Sattwic. If you use a prayer to harm anyone, it is called Tamasic. The prayer by itself is not Sattwa or Rajas or Tamas. By putting in certain Aksharas to direct natural energy to a given end (which may be S-R-T), renders it so. If one wears gemstones to heal oneself, or to earn money by righteous means or to protect oneself, there is nothing Tamasic about it. Still I say, worship of the Lord, with devotion and meditativeness, is a much better option. Even better is understanding the principle of life itself. For example, if one is grounded in the thought - that only Lord gives results - no other particular person, etc are responsible for it - then all your jealousy, anger, envy, etc... may simply vanish. Then your relationship is only with the lord and no longer would illusoriness of the world trouble you. No longer disrespect or respect bother you. No longer do you want to change anyone. Good and bad would only be gifts from the Lord. Your prayerfulness would be to improve your wisdom. To a person who is accepting and meditative (not doing meditation), Saturn does not attack, Mars cannot cause problems, Rahu-Ketu salute it. Ma Shakti protects in a major way. I am sharing this with you as from your writings you are likely to appreciate the above. Most would discard it as non-practical (hehehe). Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent

> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear soulsadhak,

 

Thanks much for your reply. Although I feel your case is much

clearer. Because, applying what I understood of Visti's writeup to

your case, wearing a stone for Jupiter will actually strengthen

Jupiter, since it has no conjunctions or parivartans, so that is

clearly good. My only doubt is Jupiter, ruler of 2 in 7, is probably

a first rate maraka, so I would be interested in knowing your

thoughts on that - is it ok to strengthen a maraka or not?

 

In my case, if I wear Saturn's stone, then by the conjunction

principle that Visti wrote about, it will have the effects of Moon,

which I surely dont want. If I wear Moon's stone, then it conjuncts

Saturn and is in parivartan with Jupiter, so I'm not sure which

effect it will have. With Venus's stone, Venus conjuncts Jupiter, so

I'm wondering if it will actually be good for me (Venus mahadasha

has been and continues to be especially challenging, I'm in Ve-Ju

now)..

 

And you're correct, gems do catch the fancy, especially since I read

that Visti said that by offering the right prayers when wearing it,

you permanently imbue it with the right characteristics.. That got

me interested again..

 

Of course, I'm still always interested in Sattwic remedies too, but

my mantra knowledge is very very weak. I would be interested in your

input on that, if you have any..

 

Thanks much again for your input, and also, if you dont mind my

asking, has the Saturn Mars Rahu conjunction in 2nd aspecting 8th

given you primarily financial troubles, or what? Doesnt look like

you would have marital troubles, since you have the protection of

Jupiter in the 7th (you dont have to answer this at all unless you

want to, and pardon me if you feel I'm prying)

 

Sundeep

 

sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote:

>

> hi sundeep,

>

> sorry, your question is to Visti,

> i jumped in as i kinda share your predicament here

> - i too have aquarius lagna (having Su),

> so venus is badhakesh and moreover placed in dushsthana (12th cap

> with MeR in my case) - so i am skeptical about using diamond (as

> suggested by someone saying it's yogakarak so will be good!)

> ... another someone suggested Blue sapphire since Sa is lagnesh

and

> L-12 and placed in 2nd pisces (placed with Ma and Ra in my case -

> making me a real nutcase)- i wear an amethyst instead for

> now....still skeptical about wearing blue sapphire - i already am

so

> saturnine (but will try ;-).

> the positive point about your moon is that it is conj Ju in nav

(in

> mine Ju aspects as opp. Mo asc. in sag nav), my moon in rasi is in

> sag with no planet 2nd/12th from itself and JuR in 7th leo.

> ...some have suggested Gomed (since my Mo is in swati nakshatra)!

>

> the gem prescriptions seem so complicated esp. if one goes on to

see

> the charts other that rasi chart or max rasi+nav charts!! the

> prescription conflicts with one or the other placment across

various

> charts for the native!

>

> I wear yellowsapphire, rose quartz and amethyst for now. Yellow

> sapphire to strenghthen my Ju and save trouble from lone moon in

> rasi....and am still experimenting!

>

> at the end of the day i still believe sattvic remedies fetch

> benefits without side effects .... but gems catch our fancy - dont

> they?

>

> God Bless

> Soul Sadhak

> sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent "

> <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is in

> > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so far,

> > truthfully speaking:

> >

> > In my chart:

> > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second house

in

> > Pisces.

> > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th

> > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th

> > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in

scorpio

> > navamsa too.

> > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha chart.

> >

> >

> > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please

> confirm.

> > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe

Moon

> is

> > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those

> tendencies,

> > angers and sorrows are also plentiful.

> >

> > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have Venus

AK

> in

> > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in Marana).

> From

> > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will

either

> > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon (which

it

> is

> > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the

only

> > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So

what

> > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably

> that

> > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and

> > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance any

> > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite bad.

> If I

> > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter

> > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)?

> >

> > Please advise. A clear path is not visible..

> >

> > My birthdata is:

> > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT.

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Sundeep

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sri SoulHave you tried using Rhodolite (Reddish-Purplish Garnet)? It is a stone that is likely to suit you. Amethyst will suit you and please do share your experience of wearing it. I have found such lovely properties of this gemstone. It is like a God gift in a tormented world. Stabilize base chakra using Smoky Quartz. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 12/27/06, Soul Sadhak <

soulsadhak wrote:

 

 

 

 

hi sundeep,

 

sorry, your question is to Visti,

i jumped in as i kinda share your predicament here

- i too have aquarius lagna (having Su),

so venus is badhakesh and moreover placed in dushsthana (12th cap

with MeR in my case) - so i am skeptical about using diamond (as

suggested by someone saying it's yogakarak so will be good!)

.... another someone suggested Blue sapphire since Sa is lagnesh and

L-12 and placed in 2nd pisces (placed with Ma and Ra in my case -

making me a real nutcase)- i wear an amethyst instead for

now....still skeptical about wearing blue sapphire - i already am so

saturnine (but will try ;-).

the positive point about your moon is that it is conj Ju in nav (in

mine Ju aspects as opp. Mo asc. in sag nav), my moon in rasi is in

sag with no planet 2nd/12th from itself and JuR in 7th leo.

....some have suggested Gomed (since my Mo is in swati nakshatra)!

 

the gem prescriptions seem so complicated esp. if one goes on to see

the charts other that rasi chart or max rasi+nav charts!! the

prescription conflicts with one or the other placment across various

charts for the native!

 

I wear yellowsapphire, rose quartz and amethyst for now. Yellow

sapphire to strenghthen my Ju and save trouble from lone moon in

rasi....and am still experimenting!

 

at the end of the day i still believe sattvic remedies fetch

benefits without side effects .... but gems catch our fancy - dont

they?

 

God Bless

Soul Sadhak

sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent "

 

<vedicastrostudent wrote:

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is in

> question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so far,

> truthfully speaking:

>

> In my chart:

> 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second house in

> Pisces.

> 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th

> 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th

> 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in scorpio

> navamsa too.

> 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha chart.

>

>

> Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please

confirm.

> I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe Moon

is

> in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those

tendencies,

> angers and sorrows are also plentiful.

>

> From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have Venus AK

in

> 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in Marana).

From

> your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will either

> give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon (which it

is

> in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the only

> thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So what

> should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably

that

> should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and

> Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance any

> negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite bad.

If I

> wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter

> (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)?

>

> Please advise. A clear path is not visible..

>

> My birthdata is:

> 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT.

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Sundeep

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sri SoulCat's eye wouldn't suit you. Please refer to our earlier private discussion.Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 12/27/06,

Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Bharatji,

 

Amethyst works fine for me - kinda soothes my frenzied nerves and

besides, i love the color violet.

(blue + red = violet/purple)- if u read b/w lines u'll know what i

mean.

 

mundanely, amethyst is also for aquarius sun-sign (like for me) as

per western astro and it is also supposed to work to keep spouse

from straying away (if kept under bed tied with red string - that's

what chinese feng-shui says! - have'nt done that though myself :-)

 

havent tried Rhodolite and Smoky quartz yet, but willing to give it

a go - esp yes, i wanted to know if Cat's eye would be ok for me (Ke

in 8th vir from lagna but 12th from Mo in rasi, also 12th from AK in

nav as per parashara light softwr)- base chakra workings have been

going on for almost 2 years now otherwise with yogic and SY

practices and not to forget, Ganesha's Grace....except an issue of

fear lurks somtimes but i guess that's being sorted out - will try

smoky quartz as u said.. (my hubby already calls me an astro-jerk ;-)

sohamsa , " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

<hinduastrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Soul

>

> Have you tried using Rhodolite (Reddish-Purplish Garnet)? It is a

stone that

> is likely to suit you.

>

> Amethyst will suit you and please do share your experience of

wearing it. I

> have found such lovely properties of this gemstone. It is like a

God gift in

> a tormented world.

>

> Stabilize base chakra using Smoky Quartz.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 12/27/06, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

> >

> > hi sundeep,

> >

> > sorry, your question is to Visti,

> > i jumped in as i kinda share your predicament here

> > - i too have aquarius lagna (having Su),

> > so venus is badhakesh and moreover placed in dushsthana (12th cap

> > with MeR in my case) - so i am skeptical about using diamond (as

> > suggested by someone saying it's yogakarak so will be good!)

> > ... another someone suggested Blue sapphire since Sa is lagnesh

and

> > L-12 and placed in 2nd pisces (placed with Ma and Ra in my case -

> > making me a real nutcase)- i wear an amethyst instead for

> > now....still skeptical about wearing blue sapphire - i already

am so

> > saturnine (but will try ;-).

> > the positive point about your moon is that it is conj Ju in nav

(in

> > mine Ju aspects as opp. Mo asc. in sag nav), my moon in rasi is

in

> > sag with no planet 2nd/12th from itself and JuR in 7th leo.

> > ...some have suggested Gomed (since my Mo is in swati nakshatra)!

> >

> > the gem prescriptions seem so complicated esp. if one goes on to

see

> > the charts other that rasi chart or max rasi+nav charts!! the

> > prescription conflicts with one or the other placment across

various

> > charts for the native!

> >

> > I wear yellowsapphire, rose quartz and amethyst for now. Yellow

> > sapphire to strenghthen my Ju and save trouble from lone moon in

> > rasi....and am still experimenting!

> >

> > at the end of the day i still believe sattvic remedies fetch

> > benefits without side effects .... but gems catch our fancy -

dont

> > they?

> >

> > God Bless

> > Soul Sadhak

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40gro

ups.com>,

> > " vedicastrostudent "

> >

> > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Visti,

> > >

> > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is

in

> > > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so

far,

> > > truthfully speaking:

> > >

> > > In my chart:

> > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second

house in

> > > Pisces.

> > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th

> > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th

> > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in

scorpio

> > > navamsa too.

> > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha

chart.

> > >

> > >

> > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please

> > confirm.

> > > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe

Moon

> > is

> > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those

> > tendencies,

> > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful.

> > >

> > > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have

Venus AK

> > in

> > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in

Marana).

> > From

> > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will

either

> > > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon

(which it

> > is

> > > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the

only

> > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So

what

> > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably

> > that

> > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and

> > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance

any

> > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite

bad.

> > If I

> > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter

> > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)?

> > >

> > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible..

> > >

> > > My birthdata is:

> > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Sundeep

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Anuj,

Namaste

 

Please understand that this is not a personal attack. I loathe to say this, but why do you feel the need to write private messages to members of the list when this is an open forum and should be regarded as such.

 

We can all learn from one another in an open forum.

 

Much to my disapproval, you wrote to one of my students; (a layman at that!) and queried about Zimbabwean emeralds, production, prices etc. The copy sent to you was worthless material taken off the internet.

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

On 12/27/06 8:18 PM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste Sri Soul

 

Cat's eye wouldn't suit you. Please refer to our earlier private discussion.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On 12/27/06, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Bharatji,

 

Amethyst works fine for me - kinda soothes my frenzied nerves and

besides, i love the color violet.

(blue + red = violet/purple)- if u read b/w lines u'll know what i

mean.

 

mundanely, amethyst is also for aquarius sun-sign (like for me) as

per western astro and it is also supposed to work to keep spouse

from straying away (if kept under bed tied with red string - that's

what chinese feng-shui says! - have'nt done that though myself :-)

 

havent tried Rhodolite and Smoky quartz yet, but willing to give it

a go - esp yes, i wanted to know if Cat's eye would be ok for me (Ke

in 8th vir from lagna but 12th from Mo in rasi, also 12th from AK in

nav as per parashara light softwr)- base chakra workings have been

going on for almost 2 years now otherwise with yogic and SY

practices and not to forget, Ganesha's Grace....except an issue of

fear lurks somtimes but i guess that's being sorted out - will try

smoky quartz as u said.. (my hubby already calls me an astro-jerk ;-)

sohamsa <sohamsa%40> , " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

<hinduastrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Soul

>

> Have you tried using Rhodolite (Reddish-Purplish Garnet)? It is a

stone that

> is likely to suit you.

>

> Amethyst will suit you and please do share your experience of

wearing it. I

> have found such lovely properties of this gemstone. It is like a

God gift in

> a tormented world.

>

> Stabilize base chakra using Smoky Quartz.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 12/27/06, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

> >

> > hi sundeep,

> >

> > sorry, your question is to Visti,

> > i jumped in as i kinda share your predicament here

> > - i too have aquarius lagna (having Su),

> > so venus is badhakesh and moreover placed in dushsthana (12th cap

> > with MeR in my case) - so i am skeptical about using diamond (as

> > suggested by someone saying it's yogakarak so will be good!)

> > ... another someone suggested Blue sapphire since Sa is lagnesh

and

> > L-12 and placed in 2nd pisces (placed with Ma and Ra in my case -

> > making me a real nutcase)- i wear an amethyst instead for

> > now....still skeptical about wearing blue sapphire - i already

am so

> > saturnine (but will try ;-).

> > the positive point about your moon is that it is conj Ju in nav

(in

> > mine Ju aspects as opp. Mo asc. in sag nav), my moon in rasi is

in

> > sag with no planet 2nd/12th from itself and JuR in 7th leo.

> > ...some have suggested Gomed (since my Mo is in swati nakshatra)!

> >

> > the gem prescriptions seem so complicated esp. if one goes on to

see

> > the charts other that rasi chart or max rasi+nav charts!! the

> > prescription conflicts with one or the other placment across

various

> > charts for the native!

> >

> > I wear yellowsapphire, rose quartz and amethyst for now. Yellow

> > sapphire to strenghthen my Ju and save trouble from lone moon in

> > rasi....and am still experimenting!

> >

> > at the end of the day i still believe sattvic remedies fetch

> > benefits without side effects .... but gems catch our fancy -

dont

> > they?

> >

> > God Bless

> > Soul Sadhak

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%40gro ups.com <http://ups.com> >,

 

> > " vedicastrostudent "

> >

> > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Visti,

> > >

> > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is

in

> > > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so

far,

> > > truthfully speaking:

> > >

> > > In my chart:

> > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second

house in

> > > Pisces.

> > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th

> > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th

> > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in

scorpio

> > > navamsa too.

> > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha

chart.

> > >

> > >

> > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please

> > confirm.

> > > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe

Moon

> > is

> > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those

> > tendencies,

> > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful.

> > >

> > > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have

Venus AK

> > in

> > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in

Marana).

> > From

> > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will

either

> > > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon

(which it

> > is

> > > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the

only

> > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So

what

> > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably

> > that

> > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and

> > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance

any

> > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite

bad.

> > If I

> > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter

> > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)?

> > >

> > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible..

> > >

> > > My birthdata is:

> > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Sundeep

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Sweeji,

My relationship with my mother is ok, but my parents are in India

while I am in the US. So not a lot of contact, except regular phone

calls and visits. My mom has had osteoarthiritis and a lot of pain

from it even before 2002. In mid 2005 she had total knee replacement

surgery and subsequent intense pain until late 2005-early 2006 when

the knee replacement's benefits started kicking in.

 

However, in general, in terms of relationships, I cant say I have

had a single trouble free relationship ever since Venus dasha

started, 11 yrs ago. Its just that the amount of stress in each

relationship varies. April 02 is significant in the sense that in

May and August of 02 my wife had 2 miscarriages back to back and

that was very hard (against the backdrop of regular stresses). It

coincides with a burst of spirituality and rejection of

atheism/agnosticism in my heart, although I am still struggling to

find the correct place for spirituality in my life.

 

I got onto this topic a few weeks ago (answering your question of

why I came to this list) because I became interested again in a

gemstone solution to my various problems. Financial problems seem to

be the focus these days. Been in a lot of debt since 2001, and

constantly managing it is very stressful. I was thinking Moon in

Ghora shastyamsa, 6th lord, with Saturn in 2nd aspected by Mars,

debilitated in Navamsa was the source, so Vistiji's original comment

on planet's exchanging results and hence exchanging gemstones got me

interested in finding a way to use a benefic's influence somehow to

relieve the problems..

I also have lots of charakaraka replacements, with no planets in

kendras at all, so quite a big mess overall.

 

Anyway, so that's the gist of why I'm here right now..

 

 

Thanks very much for your input..

 

Sundeep

 

 

sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Sundeep,

> Namaste

>

> Mercury is all about communications. Placed in the 5th and in

retrograde

> motion ­means you are npt able to put your feelings through. Moon

conjoining

> Saturn would make you significantly more aloof. How was

relationship with

> your mother? And during this period of your badhakesh Venus, it

will have

> begun rearing its full results from April 02. Doesn¹t this make it

sound

> like your wife¹s constant reminder is becoming too much of a nag?

Since I

> have not followed your discussions so far, can you tell me what

made you

> come to this list in the first place? I wonder about that Moon and

Jupiter

> in randhra in navamsa ­ more of a concern to me. Time to offer

ancestral

> oblations and keep your pockets open ³for a good dip².

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

>

> On 1/4/07 11:04 PM, " vedicastrostudent " <vedicastrostudent

wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Sweeji and Bharatji,

> > I am carefully following (or trying to follow) your discussion.

> > Sweeji's original observation are absolutely correct - my wife's

> > prime complaint against me is that I dont express myself :-)

> > However, I used to think that was because of the state of the

Moon

> > in my chart. Sweeji seems to conclude it from Mars and Saturn's

> > dristi on Mercury, and Bharatji seems to conclude it from the

> > position of Venus (that would have been my other guess). However,

> > Bharatji's other comment is very intriguing (and correct) -

" there

> > is a barrier between what goes in the mind and what is

expressed " .

> >

> > So do you both have some kind of agreement, then? Sweeji's

> > observation that Mercury is a functional malefic bereft of

benefic

> > aspects is a bit worrisome. However, I have been through Mercury

> > vimshottari mahadasha and some antaras too - so some feedback:

> > Mercury-Mercury is a bit hazy in my mind (back in the early 70s),

> > but I know it wasnt too great (fears and unhappiness related to

> > school), except in terms of experiencing nature in Africa as a

> > child, which was mind-blowing. Mercury-Sun (back in India) was

> > absolutely stellar - made great strides in education, generally

> > happy. Ketu-Sun in the US was also excellent - did most of my MS

> > work in those few months. Ketu-Mercury in the US was also

absolutely

> > stellar - did most of my PhD work in that one year (Ketu-Saturn

> > right before it was terrible for my mind, by comparison, right

> > before Ketu-Mercury). Venus-Sun was again very good - made a

mark in

> > my profession.

> >

> > So on the whole, I think have had generally good experiences in

> > Mercury/Sun antaras..

> >

> > Thanks for your continued interest,

> >

> > Sundeep

> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40> , " Bharat

> > Hindu Astrology "

> > <hinduastrology@> wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Namaste Sri Swee

> >> >

> >> > Mooltrikona lordship is always more important, if the lord is

not

> > located in

> >> > the 2nd house that it owns. Out of the 5th house and 8th

house,

> > 8th house is

> >> > more malefic than the 5th. Here:

> >> > 1. Dagdha Rasi is in 8th - Positive

> >> > 2. Dagdha Rasi is in the 5th - Negative. But lord of Dagdha

Rasi

> > in 5th so

> >> > positive.

> >> > 3. Yuti of Yogi-Avayogi in 5th house - Positive

> >> > 4. Yuti of Yogi-Avayogi in Dagdha Rasi - mixed results

> >> > 5. Avayogi is the lagna lord - negative

> >> > 6. Avayogi in Duplicate Yogi's nakshatra - mixed results

> >> >

> >> > Mercury does not have graha drishti of malefics. Budha-Aditya

yoga

> >> > enlightens the 5th house. The harm that Mars does is also

> > controlled through

> >> > Mercury in this chart. The dasha lord is in Mercury's

nakshatra.

> >> >

> >> > Purely on gemstones remedies, I think Emerald is a fine choice

> > with Ruby.

> >> > Other remedies for Mars and Saturn should be done but we'd not

> > discuss them

> >> > for now.

> >> >

> >> > Expression to wife is likely to improve after wearing an

Emerald.

> > Venus in

> >> > the 6th usually gives issues with all kinds of expression.

There

> > is a

> >> > barrier between what goes in the mind and what is expressed.

Not

> > going into

> >> > that now, I still think Emerald and Ruby combo is nice.

> >> >

> >> > If he were here in Delhi, I'd give him my spare emerald and

ruby

> > to try on

> >> > for a couple of days, if he wanted to check the results.

> >> >

> >> > Thanks and Regards

> >> > Bharat

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > On 1/4/07, Swee Chan <sweechan@> wrote:

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Dear Bharat,

> >>> > > Namaste

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Another sloka from the same chapter on the 5th House:

> >>> > >

> >>> > > *sutasya nAshaH kathitotra tatj~naiH subhairadR^iShTe

sutabhe

> >>> > > sutesho||114||

> >>> > > *

> >>> > > One well versed say that the 5th house and its lord should

be

> > bereft of

> >>> > > benefic aspects for this loss.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > In the same vein from the continuation of the first sloka

as

> > given,

> >>> > > Mercury is the *moolatrikona *lord of the 8th conjoins

lord of

> > the 6th

> >>> > > (diseases, enemies etc) and this same Mercury is in rashi

> > drishti with two

> >>> > > other malefics, Mars and Saturn. Mercury does not get

beneficial

> > aspects

> >>> > > from Jupiter or Venus the natural benefics.

> >>> > > Besides bhakti and progeny, I am sure Sundeep finds it

hard to

> > express his

> >>> > > real feelings to his wife and children.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > This is how I was taught in the Iyer method: Iyer also

takes

> > into account

> >>> > > of the moolatrikona stance of a planet and its no

different from

> > any other

> >>> > > classics. His point is that a malefic placed in a malefic

house

> > or in dagdha

> >>> > > rasi bodes well. This is also mentioned in the same book

and the

> > idea is

> >>> > > based in VRY. The 5-9 yoga is considered to be a malefic

yoga

> > and will give

> >>> > > anything but beneficial. Mercury besides being a functional

> > malefic is also

> >>> > > a natural malefic because of its conjunction with the Sun.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Except for the Sun and Moon, all other planets (not

including

> > Rahu-Ketu)

> >>> > > preside over two signs. One is the moolatrina which we

> > understand is the

> >>> > > " office " and the other is the planet's own sign which we

> > understand as its

> >>> > > own " home " . This basic understanding has already been

elaborated

> > on as above

> >>> > > (and below).

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Love,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Swee

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > On 1/4/07 11:33 AM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

<hinduastrology@>

> >>> > > wrote:

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Namaste Sri Swee

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Of all the combinations given for grief and of death, do

they

> > come to

> >>> > > pass? No.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Secondly, 8th lord effects of Mercury are greatly reduced

since

> > it is in

> >>> > > the 5th house and in its own sign. The greater good

capacity of

> > Mercury

> >>> > > becomes evident. I have already explained about yogi and

dagdha

> > rasi.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Mercury is also the lord of the nakshatra of the lagna

lord.

> > This greatly

> >>> > > increases its life giving properties than life taking ones.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Thanks and Regards

> >>> > > Bharat

> >>> > >

> >>> > > On 1/4/07, *Swee Chan* <sweechan@> wrote:

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Jaya Jagannatha

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Dear Bharat,

> >>> > > Namaste

> >>> > >

> >>> > > The dialogue between Shiva and Parvati from Jyotishanava

> > Navanitam Ch 2

> >>> > > sloka 1

> >>> > >

> >>> > > *kArakagrahasaMyukto bhAvassklpaphalapradaH|

> >>> > > kArakagraharAshisthaH pApastatphalanAshaH||1||

> >>> > > *

> >>> > > The house that is occupied by a cencerned significator will

> > yield limited

> >>> > > results.

> >>> > > If there is a malefic planet, the indications concerning

that

> > house owned

> >>> > > by its dispositor will be destroyed.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Implying that a malefic will destroy the karakatwa effects

of its

> >>> > > dispositor.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > To understand what is meant by (functional) malefics, the

next

> > sloka is

> >>> > > given:

> >>> > >

> >>> > > *yeyegrahA dharmapabudbhapAbhyAmyuktAshca

> > dR^iSTAshcashubhapradAsyaH|

> >>> > > sndhreshvarAri vyayapairyutAshceccokaprado

mArakanAyakeShu||2

> >>> > > *

> >>> > > Planets that are related to the lords of the 9th and the

5th

> > houses either

> >>> > > by aspect or conjunction will prove auspicious

> >>> > > Grief and death will be the result if planets are

conjoined with

> > the lords

> >>> > > of the 8th, 6th and 12th houses.

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Love,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Swee

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > On 1/4/07 10:04 AM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

<hinduastrology@

> >>> > > <http://gmail.com> <http://gmail.com> > wrote:

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Namaste Sri Sundeep

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Responses below in Blue:

> >>> > > 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking

into

> >>> > > account the fact that Emerald would give the results of

the Sun,

> > due

> >>> > > to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart?

Similarly,

> > would

> >>> > > Ruby give the results of Mercury?

> >>> > > No, I am not. Mercury has its own nature and it does not

> > exchange it. Two

> >>> > > grahas can work for each other but do not change their

inherent

> > nature.

> >>> > > Mercury would give its own results. Sun its own.

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a

gem for

> > the

> >>> > > lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation

> > (father,

> >>> > > mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any

negative

> >>> > > karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge

> > problems

> >>> > > with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem.

Lets

> > say it

> >>> > > does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of

view,

> > she

> >>> > > was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly

stopped.

> > How

> >>> > > would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem

cannot

> >>> > > affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested

in this

> >>> > > because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically

be the

> > 2nd

> >>> > > from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother.

> >>> > > Given a similar logic one should not wear the lagna lord's

> > gemstone since

> >>> > > it is 12th for family and markesh for wife. The chart is of

> > oneself and not

> >>> > > of others. Others have their own charts. When we give a

remedy

> > or a gemstone

> >>> > > to alleviate problems with wife or so, it is not to mould

the

> > wife but to

> >>> > > seek protection from forces causing harm Or to bring

internal

> > change such

> >>> > > that certain reactiveness, non-acceptance, etc. is

countered,

> > etc.. That is

> >>> > > why we match charts for matchmaking too - such that two

person

> > combine in

> >>> > > their natural energies towards positivity and prosperity.

If

> > only one chart

> >>> > > was to dictate everything, then, no need for matching

charts

> > either. Many

> >>> > > such examples can be given. Therefore, 5th Lord

strengthening is

> > not for

> >>> > > causing harm to your mother but to strengthen dharma in

you.

> > Your mother's

> >>> > > chart will dictate what gemstone is harmful for her to

wear.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > I hope it is clear.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Thanks and Regards

> >>> > > Bharat

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > On 1/4/07, *vedicastrostudent* < vedicastrostudent@

> >>> > > <http://> <http://>

> >>> > > <vedicastrostudent@> <vedicastrostudent@> >

> >>> > > wrote:

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Dear Bharatji,

> >>> > > A very happy new year to you and all others who are

reading this

> >>> > > post. Thanks very much for the explanation of your

> > recommendations.

> >>> > > I have two additional questions and would be very grateful

if you

> >>> > > could respond.

> >>> > > 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking

into

> >>> > > account the fact that Emerald would give the results of

the Sun,

> > due

> >>> > > to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart?

Similarly,

> > would

> >>> > > Ruby give the results of Mercury?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a

gem for

> > the

> >>> > > lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation

> > (father,

> >>> > > mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any

negative

> >>> > > karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge

> > problems

> >>> > > with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem.

Lets

> > say it

> >>> > > does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of

view,

> > she

> >>> > > was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly

stopped.

> > How

> >>> > > would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem

cannot

> >>> > > affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested

in this

> >>> > > because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically

be the

> > 2nd

> >>> > > from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Thanks

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Sundeep

> >>> > >

> >>> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>

> >>> <sohamsa%

> > 40><sohamsa%40>

> >>> > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%

> > 40> , " Bharat

> >>> > > Hindu Astrology "

> >>> > >

> >>> > > <hinduastrology@> wrote:

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > Namaste Sri Sundeep

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > A few important things: Each person's destiny is

separate.

> > Their

> >>> > > seemingly

> >>>> > > > intermingling nature is because the Lord programs it in

that

> > way.

> >>> > > Periods of

> >>>> > > > sorrow and despair for family members are programmed

with

> > sickness

> >>> > > of one

> >>>> > > > member. Though the destiny seem to join, they are

apart. The

> > proof

> >>> > > comes

> >>>> > > > from the unattached, who are not affected or hardly

affected in

> >>> > > crisis,

> >>>> > > > etc...

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > Keeping the above in mind, your wearing of a red thread

must

> > have

> >>> > > coincided

> >>>> > > > with your father's ill health. To be sure, it is

essential to

> >>> > > check what the

> >>>> > > > havan was about and whether the pundit performed it

properly.

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > In your chart, rotate the chart to keep 9th house as

lagna.

> > Saturn

> >>> > > is

> >>>> > > > afflicted by Mars. Mars is one of the maraka for 9th

house of

> >>> > > Father. Saturn

> >>>> > > > is the lord of the 4th (heart). Saturn is in the house

of

> > sickness

> >>> > > (6th

> >>>> > > > house for father). Jupiter the lord of 6th aspects the

4th

> > house.

> >>> > > Venus, the

> >>>> > > > lagna lord, protects it. Saturn-Mars mutual aspect can

cause

> > blood

> >>> > > pressure

> >>>> > > > problems especially as Moon joins it. This can come to

you via

> >>> > > heredity

> >>>> > > > route as Moon is your 6th lord and it is with the lagna

lord

> > in a

> >>> > > markesh

> >>>> > > > sthana.

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > Saturn is an avayogi, placed in 2nd house. Its stone is

to be

> >>> > > avoided. Mars,

> >>>> > > > is causing a vipreet raja yoga being the 3rd lord in 8th

> > (dusthana

> >>> > > in

> >>>> > > > dusthana as per Sri Iyer) but we already know its harm

on the

> >>> > > lagna lord. It

> >>>> > > > is important to note that 3rd lord in 3rd, 6th in 6th,

8th in

> > 8th

> >>> > > and 12th

> >>>> > > > in 12th are pure yogas. They do not cause problems. The

other

> >>> > > vipreet raja

> >>>> > > > yogas come with " side effects " . (3rd in 8th will bring

side

> >>> > > effects). So no

> >>>> > > > point strengthening Mars with Red coral.

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > Dagdha Rasi Lord is in Dagdha Rasi. Moreover Virgo is

in the

> > 8th

> >>> > > as a dagdha

> >>>> > > > Rasi. This is good as it reduces debt and enemies or

long term

> >>> > > problems.

> >>>> > > > Mercury is in Jupiter's nakshatra and its guna is

unspoilt.

> >>> > > Mercury removes

> >>>> > > > the problems caused on Sun by being in Rahu's nakshatra.

> >>> > > Therefore, Emerald

> >>>> > > > becomes a must. Venus, the yogakaraka is in Mercury's

nakshatra

> >>> > > and it is

> >>>> > > > best the nakshatra lord is strengthened especially

because the

> >>> > > above is

> >>>> > > > true.

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > Yogi Sun and Duplicate Yogi Mercury combine in the 5th

house

> > which

> >>> > > is a

> >>>> > > > great yoga. Sun's good effects get diminished by being

in the

> >>> > > dagdha rasi,

> >>>> > > > where Mercury rescues it again. Duality will be fought

and won

> >>> > > over through

> >>>> > > > careful and quick analysis - if you know what I mean.

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > 10th lord cannot be given strength. Therefore, give

strength to

> >>> > > 10th from

> >>>> > > > 10th and its depositor. Emerald again. (This is logic

is true

> > only

> >>> > > if the

> >>>> > > > said stone is helpful otherwise too).

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > So wearing a Ruby and Emerald is likely to be of help.

Do not

> > wear

> >>> > > a Ruby

> >>>> > > > without wearing an Emerald first.

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > I welcome your thoughts on it. Best wishes for the New

Year

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > Thanks and Regards

> >>>> > > > Bharat

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > On 12/28/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@>

wrote:

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > Dear Bharatji,

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>

> >>>>> <sohamsa%

> > 40><sohamsa%40>

> >>> > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%

40>

> > <sohamsa%

> >>> > > 40 <http://40>

> > <http://40>

> >>> > > <http://40> <http://40>

>, " Bharat

> > Hindu

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>>>> > > > > Astrology "

> >>>>> > > > > <hinduastrology@> wrote:

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > Namaste Sri Sundeep

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti.

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > No problem at all, I value your input

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do

not wear a

> > Ruby

> >>>>> > > > > alone but in

> >>>>>> > > > > > combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like

the key

> > stone

> >>> > > for

> >>>>> > > > > your

> >>>>>> > > > > > chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and

wearing

> >>> > > gemstones.

> >>>>> > > > > I shall

> >>>>>> > > > > > mail them to you once you are keen on wearing

them.

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > I intuitively agree with what you say - I have long

noticed

> > that

> >>> > > Sun

> >>>>> > > > > and Mercury seem to be good for me especially in

terms of

> >>> > > learning

> >>>>> > > > > and spirituality, but I would like to understand

your logic a

> >>> > > little

> >>>>> > > > > better. I feel strongly that a lot of problems

center around

> > the

> >>>>> > > > > Moon, so how would these gems solve these problems?

Isnt the

> >>> > > idea to

> >>>>> > > > > enhance powerful benefics to counter the effect of

> > weaknesses in

> >>> > > the

> >>>>> > > > > chart? In this case, Sun and Mercury dont seem to

have

> > anything

> >>>>> > > > > other than rasi dristi to Moon (in D-1).

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > Also, I do have one apprehension. I remember that

once when I

> >>> > > went

> >>>>> > > > > to India (I live in the US) my mother had some kind

of havan

> >>>>> > > > > (homam?) done for my general well being, and I ended

up

> > wearing a

> >>>>> > > > > red thread on my right wrist. The immediate result

(in my

> > mind)

> >>> > > was

> >>>>> > > > > that my dad seemed to keep getting in some trouble

or the

> > other.

> >>>>> > > > > First he fell down some stairs (he was 75 at the

time). Then

> > he

> >>> > > fell

> >>>>> > > > > very sick and immediately after recovering he

immediately

> > had go

> >>> > > in

> >>>>> > > > > for prostate surgery. He recovered from that and

came to the

> > US

> >>> > > and

> >>>>> > > > > very soon again fell very sick. All the while I was

wearing

> > this

> >>> > > red

> >>>>> > > > > thread, and my subconscious was repeatedly

presenting me with

> >>> > > dreams

> >>>>> > > > > of a dangerous red snake. Eventually he started

having heart

> >>>>> > > > > problems (he has had 2 heart attacks in the past)

and I

> > finally

> >>> > > had

> >>>>> > > > > a dream of this red snake pursuing me and suddenly

turning

> > into a

> >>>>> > > > > red thread that tightly bound me up from head to

toe. I still

> >>> > > didnt

> >>>>> > > > > take the hint. Next morning I got up and for some

reason some

> >>> > > dirty

> >>>>> > > > > water drain in the house overflowed and my hands and

the red

> >>> > > thread

> >>>>> > > > > got soiled while cleaning up the area, so I had to

cut it. My

> >>> > > father

> >>>>> > > > > virtually immediately recovered and was problem free

for at

> >>> > > least a

> >>>>> > > > > year after that..

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > Net result is - I somehow correlated this red thread

and

> > ceremony

> >>>>> > > > > with the Sun, I now forget the reasoning.

Additionally, I

> >>> > > remember

> >>>>> > > > > that during the same period I also had some deeply

spiritual

> >>> > > dreams

> >>>>> > > > > which repeatedly made me ask myself who I really am.

Those

> > dreams

> >>>>> > > > > also stopped after cutting the red thread.

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > So I am wary of " red " after that, even though I know

it

> > somehow

> >>>>> > > > > improves my spiritual understanding..

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit

you.

> >>> > > Aquamarine

> >>>>> > > > > would also

> >>>>>> > > > > > suit you but not good for money part so best to

avoid it

> > too.

> >>> > > Blue

> >>>>> > > > > Sapphire

> >>>>>> > > > > > should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not

now. It

> > will

> >>> > > be

> >>>>> > > > > applicable

> >>>>>> > > > > > later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and

keep it on

> > your

> >>> > > work

> >>>>> > > > > table.

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez

and wear

> > in

> >>> > > the

> >>>>> > > > > neck

> >>>>>> > > > > > using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for

Ketu.

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > Mars to me is also " red " and as I said, I am quite

wary but

> > would

> >>>>> > > > > like to know your reasoning..

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday.

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> >>>>>> > > > > > Bharat

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > Thanks very much and awaiting your input,

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > Sundeep

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > On 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent

<vedicastrostudent@> wrote:

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > Dear Visti,

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and

my own

> > chart

> >>> > > is in

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > question here. I havent found a good way to

deal with it

> > so

> >>> > > far,

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > truthfully speaking:

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > In my chart:

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in

the second

> >>> > > house

> >>>>> > > > > in

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > Pisces.

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in

6th

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but

with Jupiter

> > in

> >>>>> > > > > scorpio

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > navamsa too.

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in

Shastyamsha

> >>> > > chart.

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and

cursed.

> > Please

> >>>>> > > > > confirm.

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > I dont know exactly how to counter this

influence. I

> > believe

> >>>>> > > > > Moon is

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely

have all

> > those

> >>>>> > > > > tendencies,

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful.

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused.

I also have

> >>> > > Venus

> >>>>> > > > > AK in

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in

Gandanta, and in

> >>> > > Marana).

> >>>>> > > > > From

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for

Jupiter, it

> > will

> >>>>> > > > > either

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > give the results of Venus (which is also in

6th) or Moon

> >>> > > (which

> >>>>> > > > > it is

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > in Parivartana with), but not its own

influence, which

> > is the

> >>>>> > > > > only

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction

on the

> > Moon. So

> >>> > > what

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be

good?

> >>> > > Presumably

> >>>>> > > > > that

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus

is in

> > Marana

> >>> > > and

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont

want to

> > enhance

> >>> > > any

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure

they are

> > quite

> >>> > > bad.

> >>>>> > > > > If I

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the

results of

> > Jupiter

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)?

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible..

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > My birthdata is:

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46,

22N12, +5:30

> > GMT.

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > Thanks,

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > Sundeep

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

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> >> >

> >

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>

[Guest guest]

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Sundeep,

Namaste

 

Your Jupiter has much dignity in vaiseshikamsa and is also a Yogada and

takes lion share of the divisional charts. The sub period continues until

2009 so why not consider his gemstone? It is in Yuva avashtha which is

better than Mercury whose avastha is in mrita. Its current transit is in

Scorpio, with co-lords Mars and Ketu whom Guru is friends with. He also

aspects the 10th and 2nd. Guru is the karaka for wealth amongst other

things. Wealth in knowledge, through your children, through ancestors -

father's fathers and your own father.

The AV of 10th is 32 and saving grace of Jupiter's points at 7, higher than

all other planets in your chart.

 

The agnostic inclination is from your retrograde Mercury in the 5th.

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

On 1/5/07 11:10 PM, " vedicastrostudent " <vedicastrostudent wrote:

 

> Dear Sweeji,

> My relationship with my mother is ok, but my parents are in India

> while I am in the US. So not a lot of contact, except regular phone

> calls and visits. My mom has had osteoarthiritis and a lot of pain

> from it even before 2002. In mid 2005 she had total knee replacement

> surgery and subsequent intense pain until late 2005-early 2006 when

> the knee replacement's benefits started kicking in.

>

> However, in general, in terms of relationships, I cant say I have

> had a single trouble free relationship ever since Venus dasha

> started, 11 yrs ago. Its just that the amount of stress in each

> relationship varies. April 02 is significant in the sense that in

> May and August of 02 my wife had 2 miscarriages back to back and

> that was very hard (against the backdrop of regular stresses). It

> coincides with a burst of spirituality and rejection of

> atheism/agnosticism in my heart, although I am still struggling to

> find the correct place for spirituality in my life.

>

> I got onto this topic a few weeks ago (answering your question of

> why I came to this list) because I became interested again in a

> gemstone solution to my various problems. Financial problems seem to

> be the focus these days. Been in a lot of debt since 2001, and

> constantly managing it is very stressful. I was thinking Moon in

> Ghora shastyamsa, 6th lord, with Saturn in 2nd aspected by Mars,

> debilitated in Navamsa was the source, so Vistiji's original comment

> on planet's exchanging results and hence exchanging gemstones got me

> interested in finding a way to use a benefic's influence somehow to

> relieve the problems..

> I also have lots of charakaraka replacements, with no planets in

> kendras at all, so quite a big mess overall.

>

> Anyway, so that's the gist of why I'm here right now..

>

>

> Thanks very much for your input..

>

> Sundeep

>

>

> sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>>

>>

>> Jaya Jagannatha

>>

>> Dear Sundeep,

>> Namaste

>>

>> Mercury is all about communications. Placed in the 5th and in

> retrograde

>> motion ­means you are npt able to put your feelings through. Moon

> conjoining

>> Saturn would make you significantly more aloof. How was

> relationship with

>> your mother? And during this period of your badhakesh Venus, it

> will have

>> begun rearing its full results from April 02. Doesn¹t this make it

> sound

>> like your wife¹s constant reminder is becoming too much of a nag?

> Since I

>> have not followed your discussions so far, can you tell me what

> made you

>> come to this list in the first place? I wonder about that Moon and

> Jupiter

>> in randhra in navamsa ­ more of a concern to me. Time to offer

> ancestral

>> oblations and keep your pockets open ³for a good dip².

>>

>> Love,

>>

>> Swee

>>

>>

>> On 1/4/07 11:04 PM, " vedicastrostudent " <vedicastrostudent

> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Sweeji and Bharatji,

>>> I am carefully following (or trying to follow) your discussion.

>>> Sweeji's original observation are absolutely correct - my wife's

>>> prime complaint against me is that I dont express myself :-)

>>> However, I used to think that was because of the state of the

> Moon

>>> in my chart. Sweeji seems to conclude it from Mars and Saturn's

>>> dristi on Mercury, and Bharatji seems to conclude it from the

>>> position of Venus (that would have been my other guess). However,

>>> Bharatji's other comment is very intriguing (and correct) -

> " there

>>> is a barrier between what goes in the mind and what is

> expressed " .

>>>

>>> So do you both have some kind of agreement, then? Sweeji's

>>> observation that Mercury is a functional malefic bereft of

> benefic

>>> aspects is a bit worrisome. However, I have been through Mercury

>>> vimshottari mahadasha and some antaras too - so some feedback:

>>> Mercury-Mercury is a bit hazy in my mind (back in the early 70s),

>>> but I know it wasnt too great (fears and unhappiness related to

>>> school), except in terms of experiencing nature in Africa as a

>>> child, which was mind-blowing. Mercury-Sun (back in India) was

>>> absolutely stellar - made great strides in education, generally

>>> happy. Ketu-Sun in the US was also excellent - did most of my MS

>>> work in those few months. Ketu-Mercury in the US was also

> absolutely

>>> stellar - did most of my PhD work in that one year (Ketu-Saturn

>>> right before it was terrible for my mind, by comparison, right

>>> before Ketu-Mercury). Venus-Sun was again very good - made a

> mark in

>>> my profession.

>>>

>>> So on the whole, I think have had generally good experiences in

>>> Mercury/Sun antaras..

>>>

>>> Thanks for your continued interest,

>>>

>>> Sundeep

>>>

>>> sohamsa <sohamsa%

> 40> , " Bharat

>>> Hindu Astrology "

>>> <hinduastrology@> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Namaste Sri Swee

>>>>>

>>>>> Mooltrikona lordship is always more important, if the lord is

> not

>>> located in

>>>>> the 2nd house that it owns. Out of the 5th house and 8th

> house,

>>> 8th house is

>>>>> more malefic than the 5th. Here:

>>>>> 1. Dagdha Rasi is in 8th - Positive

>>>>> 2. Dagdha Rasi is in the 5th - Negative. But lord of Dagdha

> Rasi

>>> in 5th so

>>>>> positive.

>>>>> 3. Yuti of Yogi-Avayogi in 5th house - Positive

>>>>> 4. Yuti of Yogi-Avayogi in Dagdha Rasi - mixed results

>>>>> 5. Avayogi is the lagna lord - negative

>>>>> 6. Avayogi in Duplicate Yogi's nakshatra - mixed results

>>>>>

>>>>> Mercury does not have graha drishti of malefics. Budha-Aditya

> yoga

>>>>> enlightens the 5th house. The harm that Mars does is also

>>> controlled through

>>>>> Mercury in this chart. The dasha lord is in Mercury's

> nakshatra.

>>>>>

>>>>> Purely on gemstones remedies, I think Emerald is a fine choice

>>> with Ruby.

>>>>> Other remedies for Mars and Saturn should be done but we'd not

>>> discuss them

>>>>> for now.

>>>>>

>>>>> Expression to wife is likely to improve after wearing an

> Emerald.

>>> Venus in

>>>>> the 6th usually gives issues with all kinds of expression.

> There

>>> is a

>>>>> barrier between what goes in the mind and what is expressed.

> Not

>>> going into

>>>>> that now, I still think Emerald and Ruby combo is nice.

>>>>>

>>>>> If he were here in Delhi, I'd give him my spare emerald and

> ruby

>>> to try on

>>>>> for a couple of days, if he wanted to check the results.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks and Regards

>>>>> Bharat

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> On 1/4/07, Swee Chan <sweechan@> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Jaya Jagannatha

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Dear Bharat,

>>>>>>> Namaste

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Another sloka from the same chapter on the 5th House:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> *sutasya nAshaH kathitotra tatj~naiH subhairadR^iShTe

> sutabhe

>>>>>>> sutesho||114||

>>>>>>> *

>>>>>>> One well versed say that the 5th house and its lord should

> be

>>> bereft of

>>>>>>> benefic aspects for this loss.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> In the same vein from the continuation of the first sloka

> as

>>> given,

>>>>>>> Mercury is the *moolatrikona *lord of the 8th conjoins

> lord of

>>> the 6th

>>>>>>> (diseases, enemies etc) and this same Mercury is in rashi

>>> drishti with two

>>>>>>> other malefics, Mars and Saturn. Mercury does not get

> beneficial

>>> aspects

>>>>>>> from Jupiter or Venus the natural benefics.

>>>>>>> Besides bhakti and progeny, I am sure Sundeep finds it

> hard to

>>> express his

>>>>>>> real feelings to his wife and children.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> This is how I was taught in the Iyer method: Iyer also

> takes

>>> into account

>>>>>>> of the moolatrikona stance of a planet and its no

> different from

>>> any other

>>>>>>> classics. His point is that a malefic placed in a malefic

> house

>>> or in dagdha

>>>>>>> rasi bodes well. This is also mentioned in the same book

> and the

>>> idea is

>>>>>>> based in VRY. The 5-9 yoga is considered to be a malefic

> yoga

>>> and will give

>>>>>>> anything but beneficial. Mercury besides being a functional

>>> malefic is also

>>>>>>> a natural malefic because of its conjunction with the Sun.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Except for the Sun and Moon, all other planets (not

> including

>>> Rahu-Ketu)

>>>>>>> preside over two signs. One is the moolatrina which we

>>> understand is the

>>>>>>> " office " and the other is the planet's own sign which we

>>> understand as its

>>>>>>> own " home " . This basic understanding has already been

> elaborated

>>> on as above

>>>>>>> (and below).

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Love,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Swee

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On 1/4/07 11:33 AM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> <hinduastrology@>

>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Namaste Sri Swee

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Of all the combinations given for grief and of death, do

> they

>>> come to

>>>>>>> pass? No.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Secondly, 8th lord effects of Mercury are greatly reduced

> since

>>> it is in

>>>>>>> the 5th house and in its own sign. The greater good

> capacity of

>>> Mercury

>>>>>>> becomes evident. I have already explained about yogi and

> dagdha

>>> rasi.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Mercury is also the lord of the nakshatra of the lagna

> lord.

>>> This greatly

>>>>>>> increases its life giving properties than life taking ones.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards

>>>>>>> Bharat

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On 1/4/07, *Swee Chan* <sweechan@> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Jaya Jagannatha

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Dear Bharat,

>>>>>>> Namaste

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The dialogue between Shiva and Parvati from Jyotishanava

>>> Navanitam Ch 2

>>>>>>> sloka 1

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> *kArakagrahasaMyukto bhAvassklpaphalapradaH|

>>>>>>> kArakagraharAshisthaH pApastatphalanAshaH||1||

>>>>>>> *

>>>>>>> The house that is occupied by a cencerned significator will

>>> yield limited

>>>>>>> results.

>>>>>>> If there is a malefic planet, the indications concerning

> that

>>> house owned

>>>>>>> by its dispositor will be destroyed.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Implying that a malefic will destroy the karakatwa effects

> of its

>>>>>>> dispositor.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> To understand what is meant by (functional) malefics, the

> next

>>> sloka is

>>>>>>> given:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> *yeyegrahA dharmapabudbhapAbhyAmyuktAshca

>>> dR^iSTAshcashubhapradAsyaH|

>>>>>>> sndhreshvarAri vyayapairyutAshceccokaprado

> mArakanAyakeShu||2

>>>>>>> *

>>>>>>> Planets that are related to the lords of the 9th and the

> 5th

>>> houses either

>>>>>>> by aspect or conjunction will prove auspicious

>>>>>>> Grief and death will be the result if planets are

> conjoined with

>>> the lords

>>>>>>> of the 8th, 6th and 12th houses.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Love,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Swee

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On 1/4/07 10:04 AM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> <hinduastrology@

>>>>>>> <http://gmail.com> <http://gmail.com> > wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Namaste Sri Sundeep

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Responses below in Blue:

>>>>>>> 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking

> into

>>>>>>> account the fact that Emerald would give the results of

> the Sun,

>>> due

>>>>>>> to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart?

> Similarly,

>>> would

>>>>>>> Ruby give the results of Mercury?

>>>>>>> No, I am not. Mercury has its own nature and it does not

>>> exchange it. Two

>>>>>>> grahas can work for each other but do not change their

> inherent

>>> nature.

>>>>>>> Mercury would give its own results. Sun its own.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a

> gem for

>>> the

>>>>>>> lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation

>>> (father,

>>>>>>> mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any

> negative

>>>>>>> karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge

>>> problems

>>>>>>> with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem.

> Lets

>>> say it

>>>>>>> does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of

> view,

>>> she

>>>>>>> was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly

> stopped.

>>> How

>>>>>>> would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem

> cannot

>>>>>>> affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested

> in this

>>>>>>> because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically

> be the

>>> 2nd

>>>>>>> from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother.

>>>>>>> Given a similar logic one should not wear the lagna lord's

>>> gemstone since

>>>>>>> it is 12th for family and markesh for wife. The chart is of

>>> oneself and not

>>>>>>> of others. Others have their own charts. When we give a

> remedy

>>> or a gemstone

>>>>>>> to alleviate problems with wife or so, it is not to mould

> the

>>> wife but to

>>>>>>> seek protection from forces causing harm Or to bring

> internal

>>> change such

>>>>>>> that certain reactiveness, non-acceptance, etc. is

> countered,

>>> etc.. That is

>>>>>>> why we match charts for matchmaking too - such that two

> person

>>> combine in

>>>>>>> their natural energies towards positivity and prosperity.

> If

>>> only one chart

>>>>>>> was to dictate everything, then, no need for matching

> charts

>>> either. Many

>>>>>>> such examples can be given. Therefore, 5th Lord

> strengthening is

>>> not for

>>>>>>> causing harm to your mother but to strengthen dharma in

> you.

>>> Your mother's

>>>>>>> chart will dictate what gemstone is harmful for her to

> wear.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I hope it is clear.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards

>>>>>>> Bharat

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On 1/4/07, *vedicastrostudent* < vedicastrostudent@

>>>>>>> <http://> <http://>

>>>>>>> <vedicastrostudent@> <vedicastrostudent@> >

>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Dear Bharatji,

>>>>>>> A very happy new year to you and all others who are

> reading this

>>>>>>> post. Thanks very much for the explanation of your

>>> recommendations.

>>>>>>> I have two additional questions and would be very grateful

> if you

>>>>>>> could respond.

>>>>>>> 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking

> into

>>>>>>> account the fact that Emerald would give the results of

> the Sun,

>>> due

>>>>>>> to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart?

> Similarly,

>>> would

>>>>>>> Ruby give the results of Mercury?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a

> gem for

>>> the

>>>>>>> lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation

>>> (father,

>>>>>>> mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any

> negative

>>>>>>> karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge

>>> problems

>>>>>>> with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem.

> Lets

>>> say it

>>>>>>> does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of

> view,

>>> she

>>>>>>> was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly

> stopped.

>>> How

>>>>>>> would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem

> cannot

>>>>>>> affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested

> in this

>>>>>>> because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically

> be the

>>> 2nd

>>>>>>> from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Sundeep

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> sohamsa <sohamsa%

> 40>

>>>>> <sohamsa%

>>> 40><sohamsa%40>

>>>>>>> <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%

>>> 40> , " Bharat

>>>>>>> Hindu Astrology "

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> <hinduastrology@> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Namaste Sri Sundeep

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> A few important things: Each person's destiny is

> separate.

>>> Their

>>>>>>> seemingly

>>>>>>>>> intermingling nature is because the Lord programs it in

> that

>>> way.

>>>>>>> Periods of

>>>>>>>>> sorrow and despair for family members are programmed

> with

>>> sickness

>>>>>>> of one

>>>>>>>>> member. Though the destiny seem to join, they are

> apart. The

>>> proof

>>>>>>> comes

>>>>>>>>> from the unattached, who are not affected or hardly

> affected in

>>>>>>> crisis,

>>>>>>>>> etc...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Keeping the above in mind, your wearing of a red thread

> must

>>> have

>>>>>>> coincided

>>>>>>>>> with your father's ill health. To be sure, it is

> essential to

>>>>>>> check what the

>>>>>>>>> havan was about and whether