Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Dear Bharatji, A very happy new year to you and all others who are reading this post. Thanks very much for the explanation of your recommendations. I have two additional questions and would be very grateful if you could respond. 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking into account the fact that Emerald would give the results of the Sun, due to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart? Similarly, would Ruby give the results of Mercury? 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a gem for the lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation (father, mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any negative karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge problems with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem. Lets say it does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of view, she was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly stopped. How would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem cannot affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested in this because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically be the 2nd from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother. Thanks Sundeep sohamsa , " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaste Sri Sundeep > > A few important things: Each person's destiny is separate. Their seemingly > intermingling nature is because the Lord programs it in that way. Periods of > sorrow and despair for family members are programmed with sickness of one > member. Though the destiny seem to join, they are apart. The proof comes > from the unattached, who are not affected or hardly affected in crisis, > etc... > > Keeping the above in mind, your wearing of a red thread must have coincided > with your father's ill health. To be sure, it is essential to check what the > havan was about and whether the pundit performed it properly. > > In your chart, rotate the chart to keep 9th house as lagna. Saturn is > afflicted by Mars. Mars is one of the maraka for 9th house of Father. Saturn > is the lord of the 4th (heart). Saturn is in the house of sickness (6th > house for father). Jupiter the lord of 6th aspects the 4th house. Venus, the > lagna lord, protects it. Saturn-Mars mutual aspect can cause blood pressure > problems especially as Moon joins it. This can come to you via heredity > route as Moon is your 6th lord and it is with the lagna lord in a markesh > sthana. > > Saturn is an avayogi, placed in 2nd house. Its stone is to be avoided. Mars, > is causing a vipreet raja yoga being the 3rd lord in 8th (dusthana in > dusthana as per Sri Iyer) but we already know its harm on the lagna lord. It > is important to note that 3rd lord in 3rd, 6th in 6th, 8th in 8th and 12th > in 12th are pure yogas. They do not cause problems. The other vipreet raja > yogas come with " side effects " . (3rd in 8th will bring side effects). So no > point strengthening Mars with Red coral. > > Dagdha Rasi Lord is in Dagdha Rasi. Moreover Virgo is in the 8th as a dagdha > Rasi. This is good as it reduces debt and enemies or long term problems. > Mercury is in Jupiter's nakshatra and its guna is unspoilt. Mercury removes > the problems caused on Sun by being in Rahu's nakshatra. Therefore, Emerald > becomes a must. Venus, the yogakaraka is in Mercury's nakshatra and it is > best the nakshatra lord is strengthened especially because the above is > true. > > Yogi Sun and Duplicate Yogi Mercury combine in the 5th house which is a > great yoga. Sun's good effects get diminished by being in the dagdha rasi, > where Mercury rescues it again. Duality will be fought and won over through > careful and quick analysis - if you know what I mean. > > 10th lord cannot be given strength. Therefore, give strength to 10th from > 10th and its depositor. Emerald again. (This is logic is true only if the > said stone is helpful otherwise too). > > So wearing a Ruby and Emerald is likely to be of help. Do not wear a Ruby > without wearing an Emerald first. > > I welcome your thoughts on it. Best wishes for the New Year > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat On 12/28/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote: > > > > Dear Bharatji, > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, " Bharat Hindu > > Astrology " > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sri Sundeep > > > > > > I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti. > > > > No problem at all, I value your input > > > > > > > > Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby > > alone but in > > > combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone for > > your > > > chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing gemstones. > > I shall > > > mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them. > > > > I intuitively agree with what you say - I have long noticed that Sun > > and Mercury seem to be good for me especially in terms of learning > > and spirituality, but I would like to understand your logic a little > > better. I feel strongly that a lot of problems center around the > > Moon, so how would these gems solve these problems? Isnt the idea to > > enhance powerful benefics to counter the effect of weaknesses in the > > chart? In this case, Sun and Mercury dont seem to have anything > > other than rasi dristi to Moon (in D-1). > > > > Also, I do have one apprehension. I remember that once when I went > > to India (I live in the US) my mother had some kind of havan > > (homam?) done for my general well being, and I ended up wearing a > > red thread on my right wrist. The immediate result (in my mind) was > > that my dad seemed to keep getting in some trouble or the other. > > First he fell down some stairs (he was 75 at the time). Then he fell > > very sick and immediately after recovering he immediately had go in > > for prostate surgery. He recovered from that and came to the US and > > very soon again fell very sick. All the while I was wearing this red > > thread, and my subconscious was repeatedly presenting me with dreams > > of a dangerous red snake. Eventually he started having heart > > problems (he has had 2 heart attacks in the past) and I finally had > > a dream of this red snake pursuing me and suddenly turning into a > > red thread that tightly bound me up from head to toe. I still didnt > > take the hint. Next morning I got up and for some reason some dirty > > water drain in the house overflowed and my hands and the red thread > > got soiled while cleaning up the area, so I had to cut it. My father > > virtually immediately recovered and was problem free for at least a > > year after that.. > > > > Net result is - I somehow correlated this red thread and ceremony > > with the Sun, I now forget the reasoning. Additionally, I remember > > that during the same period I also had some deeply spiritual dreams > > which repeatedly made me ask myself who I really am. Those dreams > > also stopped after cutting the red thread. > > > > So I am wary of " red " after that, even though I know it somehow > > improves my spiritual understanding.. > > > > > > > > Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you. Aquamarine > > would also > > > suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too. Blue > > Sapphire > > > should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It will be > > applicable > > > later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your work > > table. > > > > > > Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in the > > neck > > > using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu. > > > > Mars to me is also " red " and as I said, I am quite wary but would > > like to know your reasoning.. > > > > > > > > Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > Thanks very much and awaiting your input, > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is in > > > > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so far, > > > > truthfully speaking: > > > > > > > > In my chart: > > > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second house > > in > > > > Pisces. > > > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th > > > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th > > > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in > > scorpio > > > > navamsa too. > > > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha chart. > > > > > > > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please > > confirm. > > > > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe > > Moon is > > > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those > > tendencies, > > > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful. > > > > > > > > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have Venus > > AK in > > > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in Marana). > > From > > > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will > > either > > > > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon (which > > it is > > > > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the > > only > > > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So what > > > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably > > that > > > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and > > > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance any > > > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite bad. > > If I > > > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter > > > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)? > > > > > > > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible.. > > > > > > > > My birthdata is: > > > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Namaste Sri SundeepResponses below in Blue: 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking into account the fact that Emerald would give the results of the Sun, due to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart? Similarly, would Ruby give the results of Mercury?No, I am not. Mercury has its own nature and it does not exchange it. Two grahas can work for each other but do not change their inherent nature. Mercury would give its own results. Sun its own. 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a gem for the lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation (father, mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any negative karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge problems with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem. Lets say it does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of view, she was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly stopped. How would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem cannot affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested in this because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically be the 2nd from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother.Given a similar logic one should not wear the lagna lord's gemstone since it is 12th for family and markesh for wife. The chart is of oneself and not of others. Others have their own charts. When we give a remedy or a gemstone to alleviate problems with wife or so, it is not to mould the wife but to seek protection from forces causing harm Or to bring internal change such that certain reactiveness, non-acceptance, etc. is countered, etc.. That is why we match charts for matchmaking too - such that two person combine in their natural energies towards positivity and prosperity. If only one chart was to dictate everything, then, no need for matching charts either. Many such examples can be given. Therefore, 5th Lord strengthening is not for causing harm to your mother but to strengthen dharma in you. Your mother's chart will dictate what gemstone is harmful for her to wear. I hope it is clear. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 1/4/07, vedicastrostudent < vedicastrostudent wrote: Dear Bharatji, A very happy new year to you and all others who are reading this post. Thanks very much for the explanation of your recommendations. I have two additional questions and would be very grateful if you could respond. 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking into account the fact that Emerald would give the results of the Sun, due to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart? Similarly, would Ruby give the results of Mercury? 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a gem for the lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation (father, mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any negative karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge problems with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem. Lets say it does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of view, she was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly stopped. How would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem cannot affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested in this because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically be the 2nd from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother. Thanks Sundeep sohamsa , " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaste Sri Sundeep > > A few important things: Each person's destiny is separate. Their seemingly > intermingling nature is because the Lord programs it in that way. Periods of > sorrow and despair for family members are programmed with sickness of one > member. Though the destiny seem to join, they are apart. The proof comes > from the unattached, who are not affected or hardly affected in crisis, > etc... > > Keeping the above in mind, your wearing of a red thread must have coincided > with your father's ill health. To be sure, it is essential to check what the > havan was about and whether the pundit performed it properly. > > In your chart, rotate the chart to keep 9th house as lagna. Saturn is > afflicted by Mars. Mars is one of the maraka for 9th house of Father. Saturn > is the lord of the 4th (heart). Saturn is in the house of sickness (6th > house for father). Jupiter the lord of 6th aspects the 4th house. Venus, the > lagna lord, protects it. Saturn-Mars mutual aspect can cause blood pressure > problems especially as Moon joins it. This can come to you via heredity > route as Moon is your 6th lord and it is with the lagna lord in a markesh > sthana. > > Saturn is an avayogi, placed in 2nd house. Its stone is to be avoided. Mars, > is causing a vipreet raja yoga being the 3rd lord in 8th (dusthana in > dusthana as per Sri Iyer) but we already know its harm on the lagna lord. It > is important to note that 3rd lord in 3rd, 6th in 6th, 8th in 8th and 12th > in 12th are pure yogas. They do not cause problems. The other vipreet raja > yogas come with " side effects " . (3rd in 8th will bring side effects). So no > point strengthening Mars with Red coral. > > Dagdha Rasi Lord is in Dagdha Rasi. Moreover Virgo is in the 8th as a dagdha > Rasi. This is good as it reduces debt and enemies or long term problems. > Mercury is in Jupiter's nakshatra and its guna is unspoilt. Mercury removes > the problems caused on Sun by being in Rahu's nakshatra. Therefore, Emerald > becomes a must. Venus, the yogakaraka is in Mercury's nakshatra and it is > best the nakshatra lord is strengthened especially because the above is > true. > > Yogi Sun and Duplicate Yogi Mercury combine in the 5th house which is a > great yoga. Sun's good effects get diminished by being in the dagdha rasi, > where Mercury rescues it again. Duality will be fought and won over through > careful and quick analysis - if you know what I mean. > > 10th lord cannot be given strength. Therefore, give strength to 10th from > 10th and its depositor. Emerald again. (This is logic is true only if the > said stone is helpful otherwise too). > > So wearing a Ruby and Emerald is likely to be of help. Do not wear a Ruby > without wearing an Emerald first. > > I welcome your thoughts on it. Best wishes for the New Year > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote: > > > > Dear Bharatji, > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, " Bharat Hindu > > Astrology " > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sri Sundeep > > > > > > I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti. > > > > No problem at all, I value your input > > > > > > > > Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby > > alone but in > > > combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone for > > your > > > chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing gemstones. > > I shall > > > mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them. > > > > I intuitively agree with what you say - I have long noticed that Sun > > and Mercury seem to be good for me especially in terms of learning > > and spirituality, but I would like to understand your logic a little > > better. I feel strongly that a lot of problems center around the > > Moon, so how would these gems solve these problems? Isnt the idea to > > enhance powerful benefics to counter the effect of weaknesses in the > > chart? In this case, Sun and Mercury dont seem to have anything > > other than rasi dristi to Moon (in D-1). > > > > Also, I do have one apprehension. I remember that once when I went > > to India (I live in the US) my mother had some kind of havan > > (homam?) done for my general well being, and I ended up wearing a > > red thread on my right wrist. The immediate result (in my mind) was > > that my dad seemed to keep getting in some trouble or the other. > > First he fell down some stairs (he was 75 at the time). Then he fell > > very sick and immediately after recovering he immediately had go in > > for prostate surgery. He recovered from that and came to the US and > > very soon again fell very sick. All the while I was wearing this red > > thread, and my subconscious was repeatedly presenting me with dreams > > of a dangerous red snake. Eventually he started having heart > > problems (he has had 2 heart attacks in the past) and I finally had > > a dream of this red snake pursuing me and suddenly turning into a > > red thread that tightly bound me up from head to toe. I still didnt > > take the hint. Next morning I got up and for some reason some dirty > > water drain in the house overflowed and my hands and the red thread > > got soiled while cleaning up the area, so I had to cut it. My father > > virtually immediately recovered and was problem free for at least a > > year after that.. > > > > Net result is - I somehow correlated this red thread and ceremony > > with the Sun, I now forget the reasoning. Additionally, I remember > > that during the same period I also had some deeply spiritual dreams > > which repeatedly made me ask myself who I really am. Those dreams > > also stopped after cutting the red thread. > > > > So I am wary of " red " after that, even though I know it somehow > > improves my spiritual understanding.. > > > > > > > > Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you. Aquamarine > > would also > > > suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too. Blue > > Sapphire > > > should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It will be > > applicable > > > later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your work > > table. > > > > > > Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in the > > neck > > > using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu. > > > > Mars to me is also " red " and as I said, I am quite wary but would > > like to know your reasoning.. > > > > > > > > Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > Thanks very much and awaiting your input, > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is in > > > > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so far, > > > > truthfully speaking: > > > > > > > > In my chart: > > > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second house > > in > > > > Pisces. > > > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th > > > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th > > > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in > > scorpio > > > > navamsa too. > > > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha chart. > > > > > > > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please > > confirm. > > > > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe > > Moon is > > > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those > > tendencies, > > > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful. > > > > > > > > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have Venus > > AK in > > > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in Marana). > > From > > > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will > > either > > > > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon (which > > it is > > > > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the > > only > > > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So what > > > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably > > that > > > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and > > > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance any > > > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite bad. > > If I > > > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter > > > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)? > > > > > > > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible.. > > > > > > > > My birthdata is: > > > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat, Namaste The dialogue between Shiva and Parvati from Jyotishanava Navanitam Ch 2 sloka 1 kArakagrahasaMyukto bhAvassklpaphalapradaH| kArakagraharAshisthaH pApastatphalanAshaH||1|| The house that is occupied by a cencerned significator will yield limited results. If there is a malefic planet, the indications concerning that house owned by its dispositor will be destroyed. Implying that a malefic will destroy the karakatwa effects of its dispositor. To understand what is meant by (functional) malefics, the next sloka is given: yeyegrahA dharmapabudbhapAbhyAmyuktAshca dR^iSTAshcashubhapradAsyaH| sndhreshvarAri vyayapairyutAshceccokaprado mArakanAyakeShu||2 Planets that are related to the lords of the 9th and the 5th houses either by aspect or conjunction will prove auspicious Grief and death will be the result if planets are conjoined with the lords of the 8th, 6th and 12th houses. Love, Swee On 1/4/07 10:04 AM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology wrote: Namaste Sri Sundeep Responses below in Blue: 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking into account the fact that Emerald would give the results of the Sun, due to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart? Similarly, would Ruby give the results of Mercury? No, I am not. Mercury has its own nature and it does not exchange it. Two grahas can work for each other but do not change their inherent nature. Mercury would give its own results. Sun its own. 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a gem for the lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation (father, mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any negative karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge problems with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem. Lets say it does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of view, she was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly stopped. How would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem cannot affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested in this because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically be the 2nd from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother. Given a similar logic one should not wear the lagna lord's gemstone since it is 12th for family and markesh for wife. The chart is of oneself and not of others. Others have their own charts. When we give a remedy or a gemstone to alleviate problems with wife or so, it is not to mould the wife but to seek protection from forces causing harm Or to bring internal change such that certain reactiveness, non-acceptance, etc. is countered, etc.. That is why we match charts for matchmaking too - such that two person combine in their natural energies towards positivity and prosperity. If only one chart was to dictate everything, then, no need for matching charts either. Many such examples can be given. Therefore, 5th Lord strengthening is not for causing harm to your mother but to strengthen dharma in you. Your mother's chart will dictate what gemstone is harmful for her to wear. I hope it is clear. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 1/4/07, vedicastrostudent < vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent > wrote: Dear Bharatji, A very happy new year to you and all others who are reading this post. Thanks very much for the explanation of your recommendations. I have two additional questions and would be very grateful if you could respond. 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking into account the fact that Emerald would give the results of the Sun, due to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart? Similarly, would Ruby give the results of Mercury? 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a gem for the lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation (father, mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any negative karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge problems with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem. Lets say it does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of view, she was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly stopped. How would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem cannot affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested in this because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically be the 2nd from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother. Thanks Sundeep sohamsa <sohamsa%40> , " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaste Sri Sundeep > > A few important things: Each person's destiny is separate. Their seemingly > intermingling nature is because the Lord programs it in that way. Periods of > sorrow and despair for family members are programmed with sickness of one > member. Though the destiny seem to join, they are apart. The proof comes > from the unattached, who are not affected or hardly affected in crisis, > etc... > > Keeping the above in mind, your wearing of a red thread must have coincided > with your father's ill health. To be sure, it is essential to check what the > havan was about and whether the pundit performed it properly. > > In your chart, rotate the chart to keep 9th house as lagna. Saturn is > afflicted by Mars. Mars is one of the maraka for 9th house of Father. Saturn > is the lord of the 4th (heart). Saturn is in the house of sickness (6th > house for father). Jupiter the lord of 6th aspects the 4th house. Venus, the > lagna lord, protects it. Saturn-Mars mutual aspect can cause blood pressure > problems especially as Moon joins it. This can come to you via heredity > route as Moon is your 6th lord and it is with the lagna lord in a markesh > sthana. > > Saturn is an avayogi, placed in 2nd house. Its stone is to be avoided. Mars, > is causing a vipreet raja yoga being the 3rd lord in 8th (dusthana in > dusthana as per Sri Iyer) but we already know its harm on the lagna lord. It > is important to note that 3rd lord in 3rd, 6th in 6th, 8th in 8th and 12th > in 12th are pure yogas. They do not cause problems. The other vipreet raja > yogas come with " side effects " . (3rd in 8th will bring side effects). So no > point strengthening Mars with Red coral. > > Dagdha Rasi Lord is in Dagdha Rasi. Moreover Virgo is in the 8th as a dagdha > Rasi. This is good as it reduces debt and enemies or long term problems. > Mercury is in Jupiter's nakshatra and its guna is unspoilt. Mercury removes > the problems caused on Sun by being in Rahu's nakshatra. Therefore, Emerald > becomes a must. Venus, the yogakaraka is in Mercury's nakshatra and it is > best the nakshatra lord is strengthened especially because the above is > true. > > Yogi Sun and Duplicate Yogi Mercury combine in the 5th house which is a > great yoga. Sun's good effects get diminished by being in the dagdha rasi, > where Mercury rescues it again. Duality will be fought and won over through > careful and quick analysis - if you know what I mean. > > 10th lord cannot be given strength. Therefore, give strength to 10th from > 10th and its depositor. Emerald again. (This is logic is true only if the > said stone is helpful otherwise too). > > So wearing a Ruby and Emerald is likely to be of help. Do not wear a Ruby > without wearing an Emerald first. > > I welcome your thoughts on it. Best wishes for the New Year > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote: > > > > Dear Bharatji, > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% 40 <http://40> >, " Bharat Hindu > > Astrology " > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sri Sundeep > > > > > > I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti. > > > > No problem at all, I value your input > > > > > > > > Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby > > alone but in > > > combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone for > > your > > > chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing gemstones. > > I shall > > > mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them. > > > > I intuitively agree with what you say - I have long noticed that Sun > > and Mercury seem to be good for me especially in terms of learning > > and spirituality, but I would like to understand your logic a little > > better. I feel strongly that a lot of problems center around the > > Moon, so how would these gems solve these problems? Isnt the idea to > > enhance powerful benefics to counter the effect of weaknesses in the > > chart? In this case, Sun and Mercury dont seem to have anything > > other than rasi dristi to Moon (in D-1). > > > > Also, I do have one apprehension. I remember that once when I went > > to India (I live in the US) my mother had some kind of havan > > (homam?) done for my general well being, and I ended up wearing a > > red thread on my right wrist. The immediate result (in my mind) was > > that my dad seemed to keep getting in some trouble or the other. > > First he fell down some stairs (he was 75 at the time). Then he fell > > very sick and immediately after recovering he immediately had go in > > for prostate surgery. He recovered from that and came to the US and > > very soon again fell very sick. All the while I was wearing this red > > thread, and my subconscious was repeatedly presenting me with dreams > > of a dangerous red snake. Eventually he started having heart > > problems (he has had 2 heart attacks in the past) and I finally had > > a dream of this red snake pursuing me and suddenly turning into a > > red thread that tightly bound me up from head to toe. I still didnt > > take the hint. Next morning I got up and for some reason some dirty > > water drain in the house overflowed and my hands and the red thread > > got soiled while cleaning up the area, so I had to cut it. My father > > virtually immediately recovered and was problem free for at least a > > year after that.. > > > > Net result is - I somehow correlated this red thread and ceremony > > with the Sun, I now forget the reasoning. Additionally, I remember > > that during the same period I also had some deeply spiritual dreams > > which repeatedly made me ask myself who I really am. Those dreams > > also stopped after cutting the red thread. > > > > So I am wary of " red " after that, even though I know it somehow > > improves my spiritual understanding.. > > > > > > > > Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you. Aquamarine > > would also > > > suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too. Blue > > Sapphire > > > should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It will be > > applicable > > > later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your work > > table. > > > > > > Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in the > > neck > > > using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu. > > > > Mars to me is also " red " and as I said, I am quite wary but would > > like to know your reasoning.. > > > > > > > > Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > Thanks very much and awaiting your input, > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is in > > > > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so far, > > > > truthfully speaking: > > > > > > > > In my chart: > > > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second house > > in > > > > Pisces. > > > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th > > > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th > > > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in > > scorpio > > > > navamsa too. > > > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha chart. > > > > > > > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please > > confirm. > > > > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe > > Moon is > > > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those > > tendencies, > > > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful. > > > > > > > > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have Venus > > AK in > > > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in Marana). > > From > > > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will > > either > > > > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon (which > > it is > > > > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the > > only > > > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So what > > > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably > > that > > > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and > > > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance any > > > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite bad. > > If I > > > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter > > > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)? > > > > > > > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible.. > > > > > > > > My birthdata is: > > > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Namaste Sri SweeOf all the combinations given for grief and of death, do they come to pass? No. Secondly, 8th lord effects of Mercury are greatly reduced since it is in the 5th house and in its own sign. The greater good capacity of Mercury becomes evident. I have already explained about yogi and dagdha rasi. Mercury is also the lord of the nakshatra of the lagna lord. This greatly increases its life giving properties than life taking ones.Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 1/4/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat, Namaste The dialogue between Shiva and Parvati from Jyotishanava Navanitam Ch 2 sloka 1 kArakagrahasaMyukto bhAvassklpaphalapradaH| kArakagraharAshisthaH pApastatphalanAshaH||1|| The house that is occupied by a cencerned significator will yield limited results. If there is a malefic planet, the indications concerning that house owned by its dispositor will be destroyed. Implying that a malefic will destroy the karakatwa effects of its dispositor. To understand what is meant by (functional) malefics, the next sloka is given: yeyegrahA dharmapabudbhapAbhyAmyuktAshca dR^iSTAshcashubhapradAsyaH| sndhreshvarAri vyayapairyutAshceccokaprado mArakanAyakeShu||2 Planets that are related to the lords of the 9th and the 5th houses either by aspect or conjunction will prove auspicious Grief and death will be the result if planets are conjoined with the lords of the 8th, 6th and 12th houses. Love, Swee On 1/4/07 10:04 AM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology > wrote: Namaste Sri Sundeep Responses below in Blue: 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking into account the fact that Emerald would give the results of the Sun, due to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart? Similarly, would Ruby give the results of Mercury? No, I am not. Mercury has its own nature and it does not exchange it. Two grahas can work for each other but do not change their inherent nature. Mercury would give its own results. Sun its own. 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a gem for the lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation (father, mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any negative karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge problems with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem. Lets say it does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of view, she was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly stopped. How would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem cannot affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested in this because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically be the 2nd from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother. Given a similar logic one should not wear the lagna lord's gemstone since it is 12th for family and markesh for wife. The chart is of oneself and not of others. Others have their own charts. When we give a remedy or a gemstone to alleviate problems with wife or so, it is not to mould the wife but to seek protection from forces causing harm Or to bring internal change such that certain reactiveness, non-acceptance, etc. is countered, etc.. That is why we match charts for matchmaking too - such that two person combine in their natural energies towards positivity and prosperity. If only one chart was to dictate everything, then, no need for matching charts either. Many such examples can be given. Therefore, 5th Lord strengthening is not for causing harm to your mother but to strengthen dharma in you. Your mother's chart will dictate what gemstone is harmful for her to wear. I hope it is clear. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 1/4/07, vedicastrostudent < vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent > wrote: Dear Bharatji, A very happy new year to you and all others who are reading this post. Thanks very much for the explanation of your recommendations. I have two additional questions and would be very grateful if you could respond. 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking into account the fact that Emerald would give the results of the Sun, due to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart? Similarly, would Ruby give the results of Mercury? 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a gem for the lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation (father, mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any negative karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge problems with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem. Lets say it does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of view, she was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly stopped. How would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem cannot affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested in this because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically be the 2nd from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother. Thanks Sundeep sohamsa <sohamsa%40> , " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaste Sri Sundeep > > A few important things: Each person's destiny is separate. Their seemingly > intermingling nature is because the Lord programs it in that way. Periods of > sorrow and despair for family members are programmed with sickness of one > member. Though the destiny seem to join, they are apart. The proof comes > from the unattached, who are not affected or hardly affected in crisis, > etc... > > Keeping the above in mind, your wearing of a red thread must have coincided > with your father's ill health. To be sure, it is essential to check what the > havan was about and whether the pundit performed it properly. > > In your chart, rotate the chart to keep 9th house as lagna. Saturn is > afflicted by Mars. Mars is one of the maraka for 9th house of Father. Saturn > is the lord of the 4th (heart). Saturn is in the house of sickness (6th > house for father). Jupiter the lord of 6th aspects the 4th house. Venus, the > lagna lord, protects it. Saturn-Mars mutual aspect can cause blood pressure > problems especially as Moon joins it. This can come to you via heredity > route as Moon is your 6th lord and it is with the lagna lord in a markesh > sthana. > > Saturn is an avayogi, placed in 2nd house. Its stone is to be avoided. Mars, > is causing a vipreet raja yoga being the 3rd lord in 8th (dusthana in > dusthana as per Sri Iyer) but we already know its harm on the lagna lord. It > is important to note that 3rd lord in 3rd, 6th in 6th, 8th in 8th and 12th > in 12th are pure yogas. They do not cause problems. The other vipreet raja > yogas come with " side effects " . (3rd in 8th will bring side effects). So no > point strengthening Mars with Red coral. > > Dagdha Rasi Lord is in Dagdha Rasi. Moreover Virgo is in the 8th as a dagdha > Rasi. This is good as it reduces debt and enemies or long term problems. > Mercury is in Jupiter's nakshatra and its guna is unspoilt. Mercury removes > the problems caused on Sun by being in Rahu's nakshatra. Therefore, Emerald > becomes a must. Venus, the yogakaraka is in Mercury's nakshatra and it is > best the nakshatra lord is strengthened especially because the above is > true. > > Yogi Sun and Duplicate Yogi Mercury combine in the 5th house which is a > great yoga. Sun's good effects get diminished by being in the dagdha rasi, > where Mercury rescues it again. Duality will be fought and won over through > careful and quick analysis - if you know what I mean. > > 10th lord cannot be given strength. Therefore, give strength to 10th from > 10th and its depositor. Emerald again. (This is logic is true only if the > said stone is helpful otherwise too). > > So wearing a Ruby and Emerald is likely to be of help. Do not wear a Ruby > without wearing an Emerald first. > > I welcome your thoughts on it. Best wishes for the New Year > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote: > > > > Dear Bharatji, > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% 40 <http://40> >, " Bharat Hindu > > Astrology " > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sri Sundeep > > > > > > I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti. > > > > No problem at all, I value your input > > > > > > > > Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby > > alone but in > > > combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone for > > your > > > chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing gemstones. > > I shall > > > mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them. > > > > I intuitively agree with what you say - I have long noticed that Sun > > and Mercury seem to be good for me especially in terms of learning > > and spirituality, but I would like to understand your logic a little > > better. I feel strongly that a lot of problems center around the > > Moon, so how would these gems solve these problems? Isnt the idea to > > enhance powerful benefics to counter the effect of weaknesses in the > > chart? In this case, Sun and Mercury dont seem to have anything > > other than rasi dristi to Moon (in D-1). > > > > Also, I do have one apprehension. I remember that once when I went > > to India (I live in the US) my mother had some kind of havan > > (homam?) done for my general well being, and I ended up wearing a > > red thread on my right wrist. The immediate result (in my mind) was > > that my dad seemed to keep getting in some trouble or the other. > > First he fell down some stairs (he was 75 at the time). Then he fell > > very sick and immediately after recovering he immediately had go in > > for prostate surgery. He recovered from that and came to the US and > > very soon again fell very sick. All the while I was wearing this red > > thread, and my subconscious was repeatedly presenting me with dreams > > of a dangerous red snake. Eventually he started having heart > > problems (he has had 2 heart attacks in the past) and I finally had > > a dream of this red snake pursuing me and suddenly turning into a > > red thread that tightly bound me up from head to toe. I still didnt > > take the hint. Next morning I got up and for some reason some dirty > > water drain in the house overflowed and my hands and the red thread > > got soiled while cleaning up the area, so I had to cut it. My father > > virtually immediately recovered and was problem free for at least a > > year after that.. > > > > Net result is - I somehow correlated this red thread and ceremony > > with the Sun, I now forget the reasoning. Additionally, I remember > > that during the same period I also had some deeply spiritual dreams > > which repeatedly made me ask myself who I really am. Those dreams > > also stopped after cutting the red thread. > > > > So I am wary of " red " after that, even though I know it somehow > > improves my spiritual understanding.. > > > > > > > > Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you. Aquamarine > > would also > > > suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too. Blue > > Sapphire > > > should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It will be > > applicable > > > later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your work > > table. > > > > > > Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in the > > neck > > > using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu. > > > > Mars to me is also " red " and as I said, I am quite wary but would > > like to know your reasoning.. > > > > > > > > Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > Thanks very much and awaiting your input, > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is in > > > > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so far, > > > > truthfully speaking: > > > > > > > > In my chart: > > > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second house > > in > > > > Pisces. > > > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th > > > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th > > > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in > > scorpio > > > > navamsa too. > > > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha chart. > > > > > > > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please > > confirm. > > > > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe > > Moon is > > > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those > > tendencies, > > > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful. > > > > > > > > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have Venus > > AK in > > > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in Marana). > > From > > > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will > > either > > > > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon (which > > it is > > > > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the > > only > > > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So what > > > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably > > that > > > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and > > > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance any > > > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite bad. > > If I > > > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter > > > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)? > > > > > > > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible.. > > > > > > > > My birthdata is: > > > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat, Namaste Another sloka from the same chapter on the 5th House: sutasya nAshaH kathitotra tatj~naiH subhairadR^iShTe sutabhe sutesho||114|| One well versed say that the 5th house and its lord should be bereft of benefic aspects for this loss. In the same vein from the continuation of the first sloka as given, Mercury is the moolatrikona lord of the 8th conjoins lord of the 6th (diseases, enemies etc) and this same Mercury is in rashi drishti with two other malefics, Mars and Saturn. Mercury does not get beneficial aspects from Jupiter or Venus the natural benefics. Besides bhakti and progeny, I am sure Sundeep finds it hard to express his real feelings to his wife and children. This is how I was taught in the Iyer method: Iyer also takes into account of the moolatrikona stance of a planet and its no different from any other classics. His point is that a malefic placed in a malefic house or in dagdha rasi bodes well. This is also mentioned in the same book and the idea is based in VRY. The 5-9 yoga is considered to be a malefic yoga and will give anything but beneficial. Mercury besides being a functional malefic is also a natural malefic because of its conjunction with the Sun. Except for the Sun and Moon, all other planets (not including Rahu-Ketu) preside over two signs. One is the moolatrina which we understand is the “office” and the other is the planet’s own sign which we understand as its own “home”. This basic understanding has already been elaborated on as above (and below). Love, Swee On 1/4/07 11:33 AM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology wrote: Namaste Sri Swee Of all the combinations given for grief and of death, do they come to pass? No. Secondly, 8th lord effects of Mercury are greatly reduced since it is in the 5th house and in its own sign. The greater good capacity of Mercury becomes evident. I have already explained about yogi and dagdha rasi. Mercury is also the lord of the nakshatra of the lagna lord. This greatly increases its life giving properties than life taking ones. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 1/4/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat, Namaste The dialogue between Shiva and Parvati from Jyotishanava Navanitam Ch 2 sloka 1 kArakagrahasaMyukto bhAvassklpaphalapradaH| kArakagraharAshisthaH pApastatphalanAshaH||1|| The house that is occupied by a cencerned significator will yield limited results. If there is a malefic planet, the indications concerning that house owned by its dispositor will be destroyed. Implying that a malefic will destroy the karakatwa effects of its dispositor. To understand what is meant by (functional) malefics, the next sloka is given: yeyegrahA dharmapabudbhapAbhyAmyuktAshca dR^iSTAshcashubhapradAsyaH| sndhreshvarAri vyayapairyutAshceccokaprado mArakanAyakeShu||2 Planets that are related to the lords of the 9th and the 5th houses either by aspect or conjunction will prove auspicious Grief and death will be the result if planets are conjoined with the lords of the 8th, 6th and 12th houses. Love, Swee On 1/4/07 10:04 AM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology <http://gmail.com> > wrote: Namaste Sri Sundeep Responses below in Blue: 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking into account the fact that Emerald would give the results of the Sun, due to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart? Similarly, would Ruby give the results of Mercury? No, I am not. Mercury has its own nature and it does not exchange it. Two grahas can work for each other but do not change their inherent nature. Mercury would give its own results. Sun its own. 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a gem for the lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation (father, mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any negative karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge problems with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem. Lets say it does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of view, she was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly stopped. How would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem cannot affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested in this because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically be the 2nd from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother. Given a similar logic one should not wear the lagna lord's gemstone since it is 12th for family and markesh for wife. The chart is of oneself and not of others. Others have their own charts. When we give a remedy or a gemstone to alleviate problems with wife or so, it is not to mould the wife but to seek protection from forces causing harm Or to bring internal change such that certain reactiveness, non-acceptance, etc. is countered, etc.. That is why we match charts for matchmaking too - such that two person combine in their natural energies towards positivity and prosperity. If only one chart was to dictate everything, then, no need for matching charts either. Many such examples can be given. Therefore, 5th Lord strengthening is not for causing harm to your mother but to strengthen dharma in you. Your mother's chart will dictate what gemstone is harmful for her to wear. I hope it is clear. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 1/4/07, vedicastrostudent < vedicastrostudent <http://> <vedicastrostudent > wrote: Dear Bharatji, A very happy new year to you and all others who are reading this post. Thanks very much for the explanation of your recommendations. I have two additional questions and would be very grateful if you could respond. 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking into account the fact that Emerald would give the results of the Sun, due to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart? Similarly, would Ruby give the results of Mercury? 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a gem for the lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation (father, mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any negative karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge problems with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem. Lets say it does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of view, she was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly stopped. How would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem cannot affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested in this because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically be the 2nd from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother. Thanks Sundeep sohamsa <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%40> , " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaste Sri Sundeep > > A few important things: Each person's destiny is separate. Their seemingly > intermingling nature is because the Lord programs it in that way. Periods of > sorrow and despair for family members are programmed with sickness of one > member. Though the destiny seem to join, they are apart. The proof comes > from the unattached, who are not affected or hardly affected in crisis, > etc... > > Keeping the above in mind, your wearing of a red thread must have coincided > with your father's ill health. To be sure, it is essential to check what the > havan was about and whether the pundit performed it properly. > > In your chart, rotate the chart to keep 9th house as lagna. Saturn is > afflicted by Mars. Mars is one of the maraka for 9th house of Father. Saturn > is the lord of the 4th (heart). Saturn is in the house of sickness (6th > house for father). Jupiter the lord of 6th aspects the 4th house. Venus, the > lagna lord, protects it. Saturn-Mars mutual aspect can cause blood pressure > problems especially as Moon joins it. This can come to you via heredity > route as Moon is your 6th lord and it is with the lagna lord in a markesh > sthana. > > Saturn is an avayogi, placed in 2nd house. Its stone is to be avoided. Mars, > is causing a vipreet raja yoga being the 3rd lord in 8th (dusthana in > dusthana as per Sri Iyer) but we already know its harm on the lagna lord. It > is important to note that 3rd lord in 3rd, 6th in 6th, 8th in 8th and 12th > in 12th are pure yogas. They do not cause problems. The other vipreet raja > yogas come with " side effects " . (3rd in 8th will bring side effects). So no > point strengthening Mars with Red coral. > > Dagdha Rasi Lord is in Dagdha Rasi. Moreover Virgo is in the 8th as a dagdha > Rasi. This is good as it reduces debt and enemies or long term problems. > Mercury is in Jupiter's nakshatra and its guna is unspoilt. Mercury removes > the problems caused on Sun by being in Rahu's nakshatra. Therefore, Emerald > becomes a must. Venus, the yogakaraka is in Mercury's nakshatra and it is > best the nakshatra lord is strengthened especially because the above is > true. > > Yogi Sun and Duplicate Yogi Mercury combine in the 5th house which is a > great yoga. Sun's good effects get diminished by being in the dagdha rasi, > where Mercury rescues it again. Duality will be fought and won over through > careful and quick analysis - if you know what I mean. > > 10th lord cannot be given strength. Therefore, give strength to 10th from > 10th and its depositor. Emerald again. (This is logic is true only if the > said stone is helpful otherwise too). > > So wearing a Ruby and Emerald is likely to be of help. Do not wear a Ruby > without wearing an Emerald first. > > I welcome your thoughts on it. Best wishes for the New Year > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote: > > > > Dear Bharatji, > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% 40 <http://40> <http://40> >, " Bharat Hindu > > Astrology " > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sri Sundeep > > > > > > I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti. > > > > No problem at all, I value your input > > > > > > > > Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby > > alone but in > > > combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone for > > your > > > chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing gemstones. > > I shall > > > mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them. > > > > I intuitively agree with what you say - I have long noticed that Sun > > and Mercury seem to be good for me especially in terms of learning > > and spirituality, but I would like to understand your logic a little > > better. I feel strongly that a lot of problems center around the > > Moon, so how would these gems solve these problems? Isnt the idea to > > enhance powerful benefics to counter the effect of weaknesses in the > > chart? In this case, Sun and Mercury dont seem to have anything > > other than rasi dristi to Moon (in D-1). > > > > Also, I do have one apprehension. I remember that once when I went > > to India (I live in the US) my mother had some kind of havan > > (homam?) done for my general well being, and I ended up wearing a > > red thread on my right wrist. The immediate result (in my mind) was > > that my dad seemed to keep getting in some trouble or the other. > > First he fell down some stairs (he was 75 at the time). Then he fell > > very sick and immediately after recovering he immediately had go in > > for prostate surgery. He recovered from that and came to the US and > > very soon again fell very sick. All the while I was wearing this red > > thread, and my subconscious was repeatedly presenting me with dreams > > of a dangerous red snake. Eventually he started having heart > > problems (he has had 2 heart attacks in the past) and I finally had > > a dream of this red snake pursuing me and suddenly turning into a > > red thread that tightly bound me up from head to toe. I still didnt > > take the hint. Next morning I got up and for some reason some dirty > > water drain in the house overflowed and my hands and the red thread > > got soiled while cleaning up the area, so I had to cut it. My father > > virtually immediately recovered and was problem free for at least a > > year after that.. > > > > Net result is - I somehow correlated this red thread and ceremony > > with the Sun, I now forget the reasoning. Additionally, I remember > > that during the same period I also had some deeply spiritual dreams > > which repeatedly made me ask myself who I really am. Those dreams > > also stopped after cutting the red thread. > > > > So I am wary of " red " after that, even though I know it somehow > > improves my spiritual understanding.. > > > > > > > > Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you. Aquamarine > > would also > > > suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too. Blue > > Sapphire > > > should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It will be > > applicable > > > later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your work > > table. > > > > > > Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in the > > neck > > > using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu. > > > > Mars to me is also " red " and as I said, I am quite wary but would > > like to know your reasoning.. > > > > > > > > Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > Thanks very much and awaiting your input, > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is in > > > > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so far, > > > > truthfully speaking: > > > > > > > > In my chart: > > > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second house > > in > > > > Pisces. > > > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th > > > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th > > > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in > > scorpio > > > > navamsa too. > > > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha chart. > > > > > > > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please > > confirm. > > > > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe > > Moon is > > > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those > > tendencies, > > > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful. > > > > > > > > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have Venus > > AK in > > > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in Marana). > > From > > > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will > > either > > > > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon (which > > it is > > > > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the > > only > > > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So what > > > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably > > that > > > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and > > > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance any > > > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite bad. > > If I > > > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter > > > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)? > > > > > > > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible.. > > > > > > > > My birthdata is: > > > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Namaste Sri SweeMooltrikona lordship is always more important, if the lord is not located in the 2nd house that it owns. Out of the 5th house and 8th house, 8th house is more malefic than the 5th. Here:1. Dagdha Rasi is in 8th - Positive 2. Dagdha Rasi is in the 5th - Negative. But lord of Dagdha Rasi in 5th so positive.3. Yuti of Yogi-Avayogi in 5th house - Positive4. Yuti of Yogi-Avayogi in Dagdha Rasi - mixed results5. Avayogi is the lagna lord - negative 6. Avayogi in Duplicate Yogi's nakshatra - mixed resultsMercury does not have graha drishti of malefics. Budha-Aditya yoga enlightens the 5th house. The harm that Mars does is also controlled through Mercury in this chart. The dasha lord is in Mercury's nakshatra. Purely on gemstones remedies, I think Emerald is a fine choice with Ruby. Other remedies for Mars and Saturn should be done but we'd not discuss them for now.Expression to wife is likely to improve after wearing an Emerald. Venus in the 6th usually gives issues with all kinds of expression. There is a barrier between what goes in the mind and what is expressed. Not going into that now, I still think Emerald and Ruby combo is nice. If he were here in Delhi, I'd give him my spare emerald and ruby to try on for a couple of days, if he wanted to check the results. Thanks and RegardsBharat On 1/4/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat, Namaste Another sloka from the same chapter on the 5th House: sutasya nAshaH kathitotra tatj~naiH subhairadR^iShTe sutabhe sutesho||114|| One well versed say that the 5th house and its lord should be bereft of benefic aspects for this loss. In the same vein from the continuation of the first sloka as given, Mercury is the moolatrikona lord of the 8th conjoins lord of the 6th (diseases, enemies etc) and this same Mercury is in rashi drishti with two other malefics, Mars and Saturn. Mercury does not get beneficial aspects from Jupiter or Venus the natural benefics. Besides bhakti and progeny, I am sure Sundeep finds it hard to express his real feelings to his wife and children. This is how I was taught in the Iyer method: Iyer also takes into account of the moolatrikona stance of a planet and its no different from any other classics. His point is that a malefic placed in a malefic house or in dagdha rasi bodes well. This is also mentioned in the same book and the idea is based in VRY. The 5-9 yoga is considered to be a malefic yoga and will give anything but beneficial. Mercury besides being a functional malefic is also a natural malefic because of its conjunction with the Sun. Except for the Sun and Moon, all other planets (not including Rahu-Ketu) preside over two signs. One is the moolatrina which we understand is the "office" and the other is the planet's own sign which we understand as its own "home". This basic understanding has already been elaborated on as above (and below). Love, Swee On 1/4/07 11:33 AM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology > wrote: Namaste Sri Swee Of all the combinations given for grief and of death, do they come to pass? No. Secondly, 8th lord effects of Mercury are greatly reduced since it is in the 5th house and in its own sign. The greater good capacity of Mercury becomes evident. I have already explained about yogi and dagdha rasi. Mercury is also the lord of the nakshatra of the lagna lord. This greatly increases its life giving properties than life taking ones. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 1/4/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat, Namaste The dialogue between Shiva and Parvati from Jyotishanava Navanitam Ch 2 sloka 1 kArakagrahasaMyukto bhAvassklpaphalapradaH| kArakagraharAshisthaH pApastatphalanAshaH||1|| The house that is occupied by a cencerned significator will yield limited results. If there is a malefic planet, the indications concerning that house owned by its dispositor will be destroyed. Implying that a malefic will destroy the karakatwa effects of its dispositor. To understand what is meant by (functional) malefics, the next sloka is given: yeyegrahA dharmapabudbhapAbhyAmyuktAshca dR^iSTAshcashubhapradAsyaH| sndhreshvarAri vyayapairyutAshceccokaprado mArakanAyakeShu||2 Planets that are related to the lords of the 9th and the 5th houses either by aspect or conjunction will prove auspicious Grief and death will be the result if planets are conjoined with the lords of the 8th, 6th and 12th houses. Love, Swee On 1/4/07 10:04 AM, " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology <http://gmail.com> > wrote: Namaste Sri Sundeep Responses below in Blue: 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking into account the fact that Emerald would give the results of the Sun, due to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart? Similarly, would Ruby give the results of Mercury? No, I am not. Mercury has its own nature and it does not exchange it. Two grahas can work for each other but do not change their inherent nature. Mercury would give its own results. Sun its own. 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a gem for the lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation (father, mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any negative karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge problems with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem. Lets say it does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of view, she was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly stopped. How would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem cannot affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested in this because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically be the 2nd from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother. Given a similar logic one should not wear the lagna lord's gemstone since it is 12th for family and markesh for wife. The chart is of oneself and not of others. Others have their own charts. When we give a remedy or a gemstone to alleviate problems with wife or so, it is not to mould the wife but to seek protection from forces causing harm Or to bring internal change such that certain reactiveness, non-acceptance, etc. is countered, etc.. That is why we match charts for matchmaking too - such that two person combine in their natural energies towards positivity and prosperity. If only one chart was to dictate everything, then, no need for matching charts either. Many such examples can be given. Therefore, 5th Lord strengthening is not for causing harm to your mother but to strengthen dharma in you. Your mother's chart will dictate what gemstone is harmful for her to wear. I hope it is clear. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 1/4/07, vedicastrostudent < vedicastrostudent <http://> <vedicastrostudent > wrote: Dear Bharatji, A very happy new year to you and all others who are reading this post. Thanks very much for the explanation of your recommendations. I have two additional questions and would be very grateful if you could respond. 1) When you say Emerald is the right stone, are you taking into account the fact that Emerald would give the results of the Sun, due to Mercury's conjuction with the Sun in my chart? Similarly, would Ruby give the results of Mercury? 2) In general, you seem to also be saying that wearing a gem for the lord of a house which is a maraka house for some relation (father, mother, children, siblings etc) will not bring about any negative karma for them. If this is true, then say a person has huge problems with his wife, and wears a gem to alleviate the problem. Lets say it does alleviate the problem - then from the wife's point of view, she was going through some bad karma, and then it suddenly stopped. How would you explain this - since you say that wearing a gem cannot affect other people's karma. I'm specifically interested in this because in my case, the 5th house gem would automatically be the 2nd from the 4th i.e. maraka for the mother. Thanks Sundeep sohamsa <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%40> , " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaste Sri Sundeep > > A few important things: Each person's destiny is separate. Their seemingly > intermingling nature is because the Lord programs it in that way. Periods of > sorrow and despair for family members are programmed with sickness of one > member. Though the destiny seem to join, they are apart. The proof comes > from the unattached, who are not affected or hardly affected in crisis, > etc... > > Keeping the above in mind, your wearing of a red thread must have coincided > with your father's ill health. To be sure, it is essential to check what the > havan was about and whether the pundit performed it properly. > > In your chart, rotate the chart to keep 9th house as lagna. Saturn is > afflicted by Mars. Mars is one of the maraka for 9th house of Father. Saturn > is the lord of the 4th (heart). Saturn is in the house of sickness (6th > house for father). Jupiter the lord of 6th aspects the 4th house. Venus, the > lagna lord, protects it. Saturn-Mars mutual aspect can cause blood pressure > problems especially as Moon joins it. This can come to you via heredity > route as Moon is your 6th lord and it is with the lagna lord in a markesh > sthana. > > Saturn is an avayogi, placed in 2nd house. Its stone is to be avoided. Mars, > is causing a vipreet raja yoga being the 3rd lord in 8th (dusthana in > dusthana as per Sri Iyer) but we already know its harm on the lagna lord. It > is important to note that 3rd lord in 3rd, 6th in 6th, 8th in 8th and 12th > in 12th are pure yogas. They do not cause problems. The other vipreet raja > yogas come with " side effects " . (3rd in 8th will bring side effects). So no > point strengthening Mars with Red coral. > > Dagdha Rasi Lord is in Dagdha Rasi. Moreover Virgo is in the 8th as a dagdha > Rasi. This is good as it reduces debt and enemies or long term problems. > Mercury is in Jupiter's nakshatra and its guna is unspoilt. Mercury removes > the problems caused on Sun by being in Rahu's nakshatra. Therefore, Emerald > becomes a must. Venus, the yogakaraka is in Mercury's nakshatra and it is > best the nakshatra lord is strengthened especially because the above is > true. > > Yogi Sun and Duplicate Yogi Mercury combine in the 5th house which is a > great yoga. Sun's good effects get diminished by being in the dagdha rasi, > where Mercury rescues it again. Duality will be fought and won over through > careful and quick analysis - if you know what I mean. > > 10th lord cannot be given strength. Therefore, give strength to 10th from > 10th and its depositor. Emerald again. (This is logic is true only if the > said stone is helpful otherwise too). > > So wearing a Ruby and Emerald is likely to be of help. Do not wear a Ruby > without wearing an Emerald first. > > I welcome your thoughts on it. Best wishes for the New Year > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > > > > > On 12/28/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote: > > > > Dear Bharatji, > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% 40 <http://40> <http://40> >, " Bharat Hindu > > Astrology " > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sri Sundeep > > > > > > I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti. > > > > No problem at all, I value your input > > > > > > > > Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby > > alone but in > > > combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone for > > your > > > chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing gemstones. > > I shall > > > mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them. > > > > I intuitively agree with what you say - I have long noticed that Sun > > and Mercury seem to be good for me especially in terms of learning > > and spirituality, but I would like to understand your logic a little > > better. I feel strongly that a lot of problems center around the > > Moon, so how would these gems solve these problems? Isnt the idea to > > enhance powerful benefics to counter the effect of weaknesses in the > > chart? In this case, Sun and Mercury dont seem to have anything > > other than rasi dristi to Moon (in D-1). > > > > Also, I do have one apprehension. I remember that once when I went > > to India (I live in the US) my mother had some kind of havan > > (homam?) done for my general well being, and I ended up wearing a > > red thread on my right wrist. The immediate result (in my mind) was > > that my dad seemed to keep getting in some trouble or the other. > > First he fell down some stairs (he was 75 at the time). Then he fell > > very sick and immediately after recovering he immediately had go in > > for prostate surgery. He recovered from that and came to the US and > > very soon again fell very sick. All the while I was wearing this red > > thread, and my subconscious was repeatedly presenting me with dreams > > of a dangerous red snake. Eventually he started having heart > > problems (he has had 2 heart attacks in the past) and I finally had > > a dream of this red snake pursuing me and suddenly turning into a > > red thread that tightly bound me up from head to toe. I still didnt > > take the hint. Next morning I got up and for some reason some dirty > > water drain in the house overflowed and my hands and the red thread > > got soiled while cleaning up the area, so I had to cut it. My father > > virtually immediately recovered and was problem free for at least a > > year after that.. > > > > Net result is - I somehow correlated this red thread and ceremony > > with the Sun, I now forget the reasoning. Additionally, I remember > > that during the same period I also had some deeply spiritual dreams > > which repeatedly made me ask myself who I really am. Those dreams > > also stopped after cutting the red thread. > > > > So I am wary of " red " after that, even though I know it somehow > > improves my spiritual understanding.. > > > > > > > > Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you. Aquamarine > > would also > > > suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too. Blue > > Sapphire > > > should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It will be > > applicable > > > later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your work > > table. > > > > > > Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in the > > neck > > > using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu. > > > > Mars to me is also " red " and as I said, I am quite wary but would > > like to know your reasoning.. > > > > > > > > Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > Thanks very much and awaiting your input, > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is in > > > > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so far, > > > > truthfully speaking: > > > > > > > > In my chart: > > > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second house > > in > > > > Pisces. > > > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th > > > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th > > > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in > > scorpio > > > > navamsa too. > > > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha chart. > > > > > > > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please > > confirm. > > > > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe > > Moon is > > > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those > > tendencies, > > > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful. > > > > > > > > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have Venus > > AK in > > > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in Marana). > > From > > > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will > > either > > > > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon (which > > it is > > > > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the > > only > > > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So what > > > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably > > that > > > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and > > > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance any > > > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite bad. > > If I > > > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter > > > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)? > > > > > > > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible.. > > > > > > > > My birthdata is: > > > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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