(To Visti)ratna and sambandha (Vistiji's Lecture on GemStones- questions

[Guest guest]

based on my chart Sanjay ji referred a ruby. thought I share my

details here.

 

DOB: Nov 15, 1968

Time: 9:30 AM

Place: Chennai

 

I was going various phases of turmoil, especially at work as I was

not getting recognition etc.

 

Sanjayji suggested Ruby - my ninth lord, debilitated (neecha bhanga)

in 11th (virgo).

 

I have seen lot of positive changes, got a promotion.

 

regards

Sri

 

 

sohamsa , ND <nadiadeol wrote:

>

> Dear Arpad Joo,

>

> It is only in KP that I have come across the principle of looking

at the Nakshatra lord before prescribing a gemstone for a client.

Because the premise is that the planet itself could be beneficial

but if its Nakshatra lord is malefic than the gemstone of the planet

will give negative results, as according to KP, the lord of the

Nakshatra, or Star lord, is activated.

>

> For best results, I look at the Nakshatra of the ascendant as well

before deciding on which gemstone may suit better. If a gemstone is

beneficial in other ways but not in harmony with the lord of the

Nakshatra of the Ascendant, I usually don't advise the client to

wear it. This practice has proved to be very effective over the

years of my work in prescribing gemstones for clients to wear.

>

> Thanks,

> ND

>

>

>

>

>

> Arpad Joo <panchasila wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krishna,

>

> Question to Swee and Visti (and all others if you like to add

comment)

>

> In the case of Yuti the prescription if gems are clear. However

in the

> case of Parivartana this is less so. Let us suppose that there

is

> normal rashi parivartana. Then, of course one planet would give

the

> effect of the other. However there are different kinds of

Parivartana.

>

> Rashi,Nakshatra,Bhava etc.

>

> Suppose Venus is in Aridra and Rahu is in Bharani. Simple

Nakshatra

> Parivartana.

>

> Would wearing diamond strenghten Rahu- and vice versa? In my

> experience,in the case of Rashi Parivartana this is the case- but

I

> have't found Nakshatra parivartana working this way.

>

> I would welcome anyone who has had some experience in this matter

to,

> enrich my understanding.

>

> With deep respect

>

> Thanks:

>

> Arpad Joo

>

> sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent "

> <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bharatji,

> >

> > sohamsa , " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> > hinduastrology@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Sundeep

> > >

> > > I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti.

> >

> > No problem at all, I value your input

> >

> > >

> > > Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a

Ruby

> > alone but in

> > > combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone

for

> > your

> > > chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing

gemstones.

> > I shall

> > > mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them.

> >

> > I intuitively agree with what you say - I have long noticed

that Sun

> > and Mercury seem to be good for me especially in terms of

learning

> > and spirituality, but I would like to understand your logic a

little

> > better. I feel strongly that a lot of problems center around the

> > Moon, so how would these gems solve these problems? Isnt the

idea to

> > enhance powerful benefics to counter the effect of weaknesses

in the

> > chart? In this case, Sun and Mercury dont seem to have anything

> > other than rasi dristi to Moon (in D-1).

> >

> > Also, I do have one apprehension. I remember that once when I

went

> > to India (I live in the US) my mother had some kind of havan

> > (homam?) done for my general well being, and I ended up wearing

a

> > red thread on my right wrist. The immediate result (in my mind)

was

> > that my dad seemed to keep getting in some trouble or the other.

> > First he fell down some stairs (he was 75 at the time). Then he

fell

> > very sick and immediately after recovering he immediately had

go in

> > for prostate surgery. He recovered from that and came to the US

and

> > very soon again fell very sick. All the while I was wearing

this red

> > thread, and my subconscious was repeatedly presenting me with

dreams

> > of a dangerous red snake. Eventually he started having heart

> > problems (he has had 2 heart attacks in the past) and I finally

had

> > a dream of this red snake pursuing me and suddenly turning into

a

> > red thread that tightly bound me up from head to toe. I still

didnt

> > take the hint. Next morning I got up and for some reason some

dirty

> > water drain in the house overflowed and my hands and the red

thread

> > got soiled while cleaning up the area, so I had to cut it. My

father

> > virtually immediately recovered and was problem free for at

least a

> > year after that..

> >

> > Net result is - I somehow correlated this red thread and

ceremony

> > with the Sun, I now forget the reasoning. Additionally, I

remember

> > that during the same period I also had some deeply spiritual

dreams

> > which repeatedly made me ask myself who I really am. Those

dreams

> > also stopped after cutting the red thread.

> >

> > So I am wary of " red " after that, even though I know it somehow

> > improves my spiritual understanding..

> >

> > >

> > > Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you.

Aquamarine

> > would also

> > > suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too.

Blue

> > Sapphire

> > > should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It will

be

> > applicable

> > > later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your

work

> > table.

> > >

> > > Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in

the

> > neck

> > > using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu.

> >

> > Mars to me is also " red " and as I said, I am quite wary but

would

> > like to know your reasoning..

> >

> > >

> > > Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> >

> > Thanks very much and awaiting your input,

> >

> > Sundeep

> > >

> > >

> > > On 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent vedicastrostudent@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Visti,

> > > >

> > > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart

is in

> > > > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so

far,

> > > > truthfully speaking:

> > > >

> > > > In my chart:

> > > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second

house

> > in

> > > > Pisces.

> > > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th

> > > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th

> > > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in

> > scorpio

> > > > navamsa too.

> > > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha

chart.

> > > >

> > > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed.

Please

> > confirm.

> > > > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe

> > Moon is

> > > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those

> > tendencies,

> > > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful.

> > > >

> > > > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have

Venus

> > AK in

> > > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in

Marana).

> > From

> > > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will

> > either

> > > > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon

(which

> > it is

> > > > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is

the

> > only

> > > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon.

So what

> > > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good?

Presumably

> > that

> > > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana

and

> > > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to

enhance any

> > > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite

bad.

> > If I

> > > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter

> > > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)?

> > > >

> > > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible..

> > > >

> > > > My birthdata is:

> > > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Sundeep

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sri SundeepA few important things: Each person's destiny is separate. Their seemingly intermingling nature is because the Lord programs it in that way. Periods of sorrow and despair for family members are programmed with sickness of one member. Though the destiny seem to join, they are apart. The proof comes from the unattached, who are not affected or hardly affected in crisis, etc...

Keeping the above in mind, your wearing of a red thread must have coincided with your father's ill health. To be sure, it is essential to check what the havan was about and whether the pundit performed it properly. In your chart, rotate the chart to keep 9th house as lagna. Saturn is afflicted by Mars. Mars is one of the maraka for 9th house of Father. Saturn is the lord of the 4th (heart). Saturn is in the house of sickness (6th house for father). Jupiter the lord of 6th aspects the 4th house. Venus, the lagna lord, protects it. Saturn-Mars mutual aspect can cause blood pressure problems especially as Moon joins it. This can come to you via heredity route as Moon is your 6th lord and it is with the lagna lord in a markesh sthana. Saturn is an avayogi, placed in 2nd house. Its stone is to be avoided. Mars, is causing a vipreet raja yoga being the 3rd lord in 8th (dusthana in dusthana as per Sri Iyer) but we already know its harm on the lagna lord. It is important to note that 3rd lord in 3rd, 6th in 6th, 8th in 8th and 12th in 12th are pure yogas. They do not cause problems. The other vipreet raja yogas come with " side effects " . (3rd in 8th will bring side effects). So no point strengthening Mars with Red coral. Dagdha Rasi Lord is in Dagdha Rasi. Moreover Virgo is in the 8th as a dagdha Rasi. This is good as it reduces debt and enemies or long term problems. Mercury is in Jupiter's nakshatra and its guna is unspoilt. Mercury removes the problems caused on Sun by being in Rahu's nakshatra. Therefore, Emerald becomes a must. Venus, the yogakaraka is in Mercury's nakshatra and it is best the nakshatra lord is strengthened especially because the above is true. Yogi Sun and Duplicate Yogi Mercury combine in the 5th house which is a great yoga. Sun's good effects get diminished by being in the dagdha rasi, where Mercury rescues it again. Duality will be fought and won over through careful and quick analysis - if you know what I mean. 10th lord cannot be given strength. Therefore, give strength to 10th from 10th and its depositor. Emerald again. (This is logic is true only if the said stone is helpful otherwise too).So wearing a Ruby and Emerald is likely to be of help. Do not wear a Ruby without wearing an Emerald first. I welcome your thoughts on it. Best wishes for the New YearThanks and RegardsBharatOn 12/28/06, vedicastrostudent

<vedicastrostudent wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Bharatji,

 

sohamsa , " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

<hinduastrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Sundeep

>

> I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti.

 

No problem at all, I value your input

 

>

> Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby

alone but in

> combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone for

your

> chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing gemstones.

I shall

> mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them.

 

I intuitively agree with what you say - I have long noticed that Sun

and Mercury seem to be good for me especially in terms of learning

and spirituality, but I would like to understand your logic a little

better. I feel strongly that a lot of problems center around the

Moon, so how would these gems solve these problems? Isnt the idea to

enhance powerful benefics to counter the effect of weaknesses in the

chart? In this case, Sun and Mercury dont seem to have anything

other than rasi dristi to Moon (in D-1).

 

Also, I do have one apprehension. I remember that once when I went

to India (I live in the US) my mother had some kind of havan

(homam?) done for my general well being, and I ended up wearing a

red thread on my right wrist. The immediate result (in my mind) was

that my dad seemed to keep getting in some trouble or the other.

First he fell down some stairs (he was 75 at the time). Then he fell

very sick and immediately after recovering he immediately had go in

for prostate surgery. He recovered from that and came to the US and

very soon again fell very sick. All the while I was wearing this red

thread, and my subconscious was repeatedly presenting me with dreams

of a dangerous red snake. Eventually he started having heart

problems (he has had 2 heart attacks in the past) and I finally had

a dream of this red snake pursuing me and suddenly turning into a

red thread that tightly bound me up from head to toe. I still didnt

take the hint. Next morning I got up and for some reason some dirty

water drain in the house overflowed and my hands and the red thread

got soiled while cleaning up the area, so I had to cut it. My father

virtually immediately recovered and was problem free for at least a

year after that..

 

Net result is - I somehow correlated this red thread and ceremony

with the Sun, I now forget the reasoning. Additionally, I remember

that during the same period I also had some deeply spiritual dreams

which repeatedly made me ask myself who I really am. Those dreams

also stopped after cutting the red thread.

 

So I am wary of " red " after that, even though I know it somehow

improves my spiritual understanding..

 

>

> Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you. Aquamarine

would also

> suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too. Blue

Sapphire

> should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It will be

applicable

> later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your work

table.

>

> Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in the

neck

> using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu.

 

Mars to me is also " red " and as I said, I am quite wary but would

like to know your reasoning..

 

>

> Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

 

Thanks very much and awaiting your input,

 

Sundeep

>

>

> On 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote:

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is in

> > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so far,

> > truthfully speaking:

> >

> > In my chart:

> > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second house

in

> > Pisces.

> > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th

> > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th

> > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in

scorpio

> > navamsa too.

> > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha chart.

> >

> > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please

confirm.

> > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe

Moon is

> > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those

tendencies,

> > angers and sorrows are also plentiful.

> >

> > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have Venus

AK in

> > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in Marana).

From

> > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will

either

> > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon (which

it is

> > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the

only

> > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So what

> > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably

that

> > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and

> > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance any

> > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite bad.

If I

> > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter

> > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)?

> >

> > Please advise. A clear path is not visible..

> >

> > My birthdata is:

> > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Sundeep

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Arpad Joo,

Namaste

 

I don ‘t understand your question: The calculation of the vimsottari dasa is based on the lord of the nakshatras.

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

On 12/29/06 8:37 AM, " Arpad Joo " <panchasila wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna,

 

Question to Swee and Visti (and all others if you like to add comment)

 

In the case of Yuti the prescription if gems are clear. However in the

case of Parivartana this is less so. Let us suppose that there is

normal rashi parivartana. Then, of course one planet would give the

effect of the other. However there are different kinds of Parivartana.

 

Rashi,Nakshatra,Bhava etc.

 

Suppose Venus is in Aridra and Rahu is in Bharani. Simple Nakshatra

Parivartana.

 

Would wearing diamond strenghten Rahu- and vice versa? In my

experience,in the case of Rashi Parivartana this is the case- but I

have't found Nakshatra parivartana working this way.

 

I would welcome anyone who has had some experience in this matter to,

enrich my understanding.

 

With deep respect

 

Thanks:

 

Arpad Joo

 

sohamsa <sohamsa%40> , " vedicastrostudent "

<vedicastrostudent wrote:

>

> Dear Bharatji,

>

> sohamsa <sohamsa%40> , " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> hinduastrology@ wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sri Sundeep

> >

> > I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti.

>

> No problem at all, I value your input

>

> >

> > Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby

> alone but in

> > combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone for

> your

> > chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing gemstones.

> I shall

> > mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them.

>

> I intuitively agree with what you say - I have long noticed that Sun

> and Mercury seem to be good for me especially in terms of learning

> and spirituality, but I would like to understand your logic a little

> better. I feel strongly that a lot of problems center around the

> Moon, so how would these gems solve these problems? Isnt the idea to

> enhance powerful benefics to counter the effect of weaknesses in the

> chart? In this case, Sun and Mercury dont seem to have anything

> other than rasi dristi to Moon (in D-1).

>

> Also, I do have one apprehension. I remember that once when I went

> to India (I live in the US) my mother had some kind of havan

> (homam?) done for my general well being, and I ended up wearing a

> red thread on my right wrist. The immediate result (in my mind) was

> that my dad seemed to keep getting in some trouble or the other.

> First he fell down some stairs (he was 75 at the time). Then he fell

> very sick and immediately after recovering he immediately had go in

> for prostate surgery. He recovered from that and came to the US and

> very soon again fell very sick. All the while I was wearing this red

> thread, and my subconscious was repeatedly presenting me with dreams

> of a dangerous red snake. Eventually he started having heart

> problems (he has had 2 heart attacks in the past) and I finally had

> a dream of this red snake pursuing me and suddenly turning into a

> red thread that tightly bound me up from head to toe. I still didnt

> take the hint. Next morning I got up and for some reason some dirty

> water drain in the house overflowed and my hands and the red thread

> got soiled while cleaning up the area, so I had to cut it. My father

> virtually immediately recovered and was problem free for at least a

> year after that..

>

> Net result is - I somehow correlated this red thread and ceremony

> with the Sun, I now forget the reasoning. Additionally, I remember

> that during the same period I also had some deeply spiritual dreams

> which repeatedly made me ask myself who I really am. Those dreams

> also stopped after cutting the red thread.

>

> So I am wary of " red " after that, even though I know it somehow

> improves my spiritual understanding..

>

> >

> > Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you. Aquamarine

> would also

> > suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too. Blue

> Sapphire

> > should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It will be

> applicable

> > later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your work

> table.

> >

> > Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in the

> neck

> > using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu.

>

> Mars to me is also " red " and as I said, I am quite wary but would

> like to know your reasoning..

>

> >

> > Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

>

> Thanks very much and awaiting your input,

>

> Sundeep

> >

> >

> > On 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent vedicastrostudent@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Visti,

> > >

> > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is in

> > > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so far,

> > > truthfully speaking:

> > >

> > > In my chart:

> > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second house

> in

> > > Pisces.

> > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th

> > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th

> > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in

> scorpio

> > > navamsa too.

> > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha chart.

> > >

> > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please

> confirm.

> > > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe

> Moon is

> > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those

> tendencies,

> > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful.

> > >

> > > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have Venus

> AK in

> > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in Marana).

> From

> > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will

> either

> > > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon (which

> it is

> > > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the

> only

> > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So what

> > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably

> that

> > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and

> > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance any

> > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite bad.

> If I

> > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter

> > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)?

> > >

> > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible..

> > >

> > > My birthdata is:

> > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Sundeep

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

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