(To Visti)ratna and sambandha (Vistiji's Lecture on GemStones- questions

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Hare Rama Krishna,

 

Question to Swee and Visti (and all others if you like to add comment)

 

In the case of Yuti the prescription if gems are clear. However in the

case of Parivartana this is less so. Let us suppose that there is

normal rashi parivartana. Then, of course one planet would give the

effect of the other. However there are different kinds of Parivartana.

 

Rashi,Nakshatra,Bhava etc.

 

Suppose Venus is in Aridra and Rahu is in Bharani. Simple Nakshatra

Parivartana.

 

Would wearing diamond strenghten Rahu- and vice versa? In my

experience,in the case of Rashi Parivartana this is the case- but I

have't found Nakshatra parivartana working this way.

 

I would welcome anyone who has had some experience in this matter to,

enrich my understanding.

 

With deep respect

 

Thanks:

 

 

 

Arpad Joo

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent "

<vedicastrostudent wrote:

>

> Dear Bharatji,

>

> sohamsa , " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> hinduastrology@ wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sri Sundeep

> >

> > I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti.

>

> No problem at all, I value your input

>

> >

> > Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby

> alone but in

> > combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone for

> your

> > chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing gemstones.

> I shall

> > mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them.

>

> I intuitively agree with what you say - I have long noticed that Sun

> and Mercury seem to be good for me especially in terms of learning

> and spirituality, but I would like to understand your logic a little

> better. I feel strongly that a lot of problems center around the

> Moon, so how would these gems solve these problems? Isnt the idea to

> enhance powerful benefics to counter the effect of weaknesses in the

> chart? In this case, Sun and Mercury dont seem to have anything

> other than rasi dristi to Moon (in D-1).

>

> Also, I do have one apprehension. I remember that once when I went

> to India (I live in the US) my mother had some kind of havan

> (homam?) done for my general well being, and I ended up wearing a

> red thread on my right wrist. The immediate result (in my mind) was

> that my dad seemed to keep getting in some trouble or the other.

> First he fell down some stairs (he was 75 at the time). Then he fell

> very sick and immediately after recovering he immediately had go in

> for prostate surgery. He recovered from that and came to the US and

> very soon again fell very sick. All the while I was wearing this red

> thread, and my subconscious was repeatedly presenting me with dreams

> of a dangerous red snake. Eventually he started having heart

> problems (he has had 2 heart attacks in the past) and I finally had

> a dream of this red snake pursuing me and suddenly turning into a

> red thread that tightly bound me up from head to toe. I still didnt

> take the hint. Next morning I got up and for some reason some dirty

> water drain in the house overflowed and my hands and the red thread

> got soiled while cleaning up the area, so I had to cut it. My father

> virtually immediately recovered and was problem free for at least a

> year after that..

>

> Net result is - I somehow correlated this red thread and ceremony

> with the Sun, I now forget the reasoning. Additionally, I remember

> that during the same period I also had some deeply spiritual dreams

> which repeatedly made me ask myself who I really am. Those dreams

> also stopped after cutting the red thread.

>

> So I am wary of " red " after that, even though I know it somehow

> improves my spiritual understanding..

>

> >

> > Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you. Aquamarine

> would also

> > suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too. Blue

> Sapphire

> > should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It will be

> applicable

> > later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your work

> table.

> >

> > Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in the

> neck

> > using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu.

>

> Mars to me is also " red " and as I said, I am quite wary but would

> like to know your reasoning..

>

> >

> > Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

>

> Thanks very much and awaiting your input,

>

> Sundeep

> >

> >

> > On 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent vedicastrostudent@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Visti,

> > >

> > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is in

> > > question here. I havent found a good way to deal with it so far,

> > > truthfully speaking:

> > >

> > > In my chart:

> > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second house

> in

> > > Pisces.

> > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th

> > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th

> > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in

> scorpio

> > > navamsa too.

> > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha chart.

> > >

> > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please

> confirm.

> > > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe

> Moon is

> > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those

> tendencies,

> > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful.

> > >

> > > From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have Venus

> AK in

> > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in Marana).

> From

> > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will

> either

> > > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon (which

> it is

> > > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the

> only

> > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So what

> > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably

> that

> > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and

> > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance any

> > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite bad.

> If I

> > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of Jupiter

> > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)?

> > >

> > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible..

> > >

> > > My birthdata is:

> > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Sundeep

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Arpad Joo,It is only in KP that I have come across the principle of looking at the Nakshatra lord before prescribing a gemstone for a client. Because the premise is that the planet itself could be beneficial but if its Nakshatra lord is malefic than the gemstone of the planet will give negative results, as according to KP, the lord of the Nakshatra, or Star lord, is activated.For best results, I look at the Nakshatra of the ascendant as well before deciding on which gemstone may suit better. If a gemstone is beneficial in other ways but not in harmony with the lord of the Nakshatra of the Ascendant, I usually don't advise the client to wear it. This practice has proved to be very effective over the years of my work in prescribing gemstones for clients to wear.Thanks,NDArpad Joo <panchasila wrote: Hare Rama Krishna, Question to Swee and Visti (and all others if you like to add comment) In the case of Yuti the prescription if gems are clear. However in the case of Parivartana this is less so. Let us suppose that there is normal rashi parivartana. Then, of course one planet would give the effect of the other. However there are different kinds of Parivartana. Rashi,Nakshatra,Bhava etc. Suppose Venus is in Aridra and Rahu is in Bharani. Simple Nakshatra Parivartana. Would wearing diamond strenghten Rahu- and vice versa? In my experience,in the case of Rashi Parivartana

this is the case- but I have't found Nakshatra parivartana working this way. I would welcome anyone who has had some experience in this matter to, enrich my understanding. With deep respect Thanks: Arpad Joo sohamsa , "vedicastrostudent" <vedicastrostudent wrote: > > Dear Bharatji, > > sohamsa , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" > hinduastrology@ wrote: > > > > Namaste Sri Sundeep > > > > I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti. > > No problem at all, I value your input > > > > > Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby > alone but in > > combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone for

> your > > chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing gemstones. > I shall > > mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them. > > I intuitively agree with what you say - I have long noticed that Sun > and Mercury seem to be good for me especially in terms of learning > and spirituality, but I would like to understand your logic a little > better. I feel strongly that a lot of problems center around the > Moon, so how would these gems solve these problems? Isnt the idea to > enhance powerful benefics to counter the effect of weaknesses in the > chart? In this case, Sun and Mercury dont seem to have anything > other than rasi dristi to Moon (in D-1). > > Also, I do have one apprehension. I remember that once when I went > to India (I live in the US) my mother had some kind of havan > (homam?) done for my general well being, and I ended up

wearing a > red thread on my right wrist. The immediate result (in my mind) was > that my dad seemed to keep getting in some trouble or the other. > First he fell down some stairs (he was 75 at the time). Then he fell > very sick and immediately after recovering he immediately had go in > for prostate surgery. He recovered from that and came to the US and > very soon again fell very sick. All the while I was wearing this red > thread, and my subconscious was repeatedly presenting me with dreams > of a dangerous red snake. Eventually he started having heart > problems (he has had 2 heart attacks in the past) and I finally had > a dream of this red snake pursuing me and suddenly turning into a > red thread that tightly bound me up from head to toe. I still didnt > take the hint. Next morning I got up and for some reason some dirty > water drain in the house overflowed and my hands and

the red thread > got soiled while cleaning up the area, so I had to cut it. My father > virtually immediately recovered and was problem free for at least a > year after that.. > > Net result is - I somehow correlated this red thread and ceremony > with the Sun, I now forget the reasoning. Additionally, I remember > that during the same period I also had some deeply spiritual dreams > which repeatedly made me ask myself who I really am. Those dreams > also stopped after cutting the red thread. > > So I am wary of "red" after that, even though I know it somehow > improves my spiritual understanding.. > > > > > Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you. Aquamarine > would also > > suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too. Blue > Sapphire > > should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It

will be > applicable > > later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your work > table. > > > > Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in the > neck > > using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu. > > Mars to me is also "red" and as I said, I am quite wary but would > like to know your reasoning.. > > > > > Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > Thanks very much and awaiting your input, > > Sundeep > > > > > > On 12/27/06, vedicastrostudent vedicastrostudent@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > My questions are very similar to Sharat's and my own chart is in > > > question here. I havent found a good way to deal

with it so far, > > > truthfully speaking: > > > > > > In my chart: > > > 1) Aquarius Lagna, Lagnesh Saturn with Moon in the second house > in > > > Pisces. > > > 2) Moon (and Saturn) aspected by Mars from 8th > > > 3) Moon in parivartana with exalted Jupiter in 6th > > > 4) Moon debilitated in scorpio navamsa but with Jupiter in > scorpio > > > navamsa too. > > > 5) Moon in Ghora shastyamsa, and with Mars in Shastyamsha chart. > > > > > > Problem is that Moon is severely afflicted and cursed. Please > confirm. > > > I dont know exactly how to counter this influence. I believe > Moon is > > > in a pravrajya yoga, and while I definitely have all those > tendencies, > > > angers and sorrows are also plentiful. > > > > > >

From a gemstone point of view, I am confused. I also have Venus > AK in > > > 6th (Yogakaraka but also Badhakesh, in Gandanta, and in Marana). > From > > > your writeup, if I wear a Yellow Topaz for Jupiter, it will > either > > > give the results of Venus (which is also in 6th) or Moon (which > it is > > > in Parivartana with), but not its own influence, which is the > only > > > thing I really want to lessen the affliction on the Moon. So what > > > should I do? If I wear a Diamond, will that be good? Presumably > that > > > should give the results of Jupiter? But Venus is in Marana and > > > Badhakesh and in Gandanta, and I really dont want to enhance any > > > negative effects of Venus - I am pretty sure they are quite bad. > If I > > > wear a pearl for Moon, will that give the results of

Jupiter > > > (parivartan) or Saturn (Yuti) or Mars (aspect)? > > > > > > Please advise. A clear path is not visible.. > > > > > > My birthdata is: > > > 29 June 1967, 23:00pm, rectified, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30 GMT. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > >