Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Hare Rama Krishna! Swee Chan wrote: " I wonder why everybody here has not mentioned metals of similar colours: Palladium, most commercially used is Rhodium and Zinc which is mixed with Gold to change the colour of Gold to white. Why is the highly poisonous Mercury used instead? Mercury or Quick Silver is used for assaying. If you place yellow Gold with it, the yellow immediately changes to silver colour!! Mercury and lead poison our bodies, so I can't imagine ever using any of these metals for adorning the body. Yuk! " Namaste Swee Chan, Mercury is called the Semen of Shiva, and is highly regarded in both Ayurveda and Tantric Alchemy,Rasayana, Rasa Vidya, Kaya Kalpa and related sciences. The famous Indian adept Nagarjuna (7th century)has written: " give me any disease, and I cure it with Mercury " . The problem with Mercury is not Mercury itself but the wrong and unskilful preparations of this Metal.If Mercury is prepared ( at least 18 Processes (called Samskaras) over a long period of time, it can be made into highly effective and potent remedies, which either can be worn on the body or ingested. I myself have watched many times such preparations of Mercury, and have used it extensively. True solidified Mercury is such a highly valuable product.(Among many others) You may want to update yourself with regards to some of the Alchemical/Ayurvedic preparations of Mercury and other metals (all of which can be used avantageously as upaye in Jyotish)by studying (initially)the basic 5 Volume set of " RasaJala Nidhi- or Ocean of Indian Chemistry,Medicine and Alchemy " by Bhudeb Mukerjee. As an end note, I would like to add, that I have met and lived with an Indian Adept of this science who at the time of our meeting was well over a 110 years old.He has attributed his longevity to every day using Mercury.Ingesting it.Not only that.Hatha Yogis use raw mercury (triple distilled)during vajroli mudra (among others). Incidentally none of them said " yuk " to Mercury. As the Sperm of Shiva, they treated it with the highest respect.Worshipped it. Mercury is the bestower of incredibely radiant health,siddhis and youth. If your punya will allow this in this life and will be able to obtain a true " rasa gulika " or a solidified Mercury made in the shape and form of Siva Linga (not the commecially available-that is nearly useless),AND if you do you Maha Mrtyunjaya Mantra with this Shiva Linga (there is a entire " vidya " concerning this)-THEN you will KNOW the difference. Perhaps, after that you wil not say " Yuk " to Mercury. With best wishes and highest regard: Arpad Joo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha More please dear Arpad Joo ) .....and platinum Love, Swee On 12/20/06 6:47 AM, " Arpad Joo " <panchasila wrote: Hare Rama Krishna! Swee Chan wrote: " I wonder why everybody here has not mentioned metals of similar colours: Palladium, most commercially used is Rhodium and Zinc which is mixed with Gold to change the colour of Gold to white. Why is the highly poisonous Mercury used instead? Mercury or Quick Silver is used for assaying. If you place yellow Gold with it, the yellow immediately changes to silver colour!! Mercury and lead poison our bodies, so I can't imagine ever using any of these metals for adorning the body. Yuk! " Namaste Swee Chan, Mercury is called the Semen of Shiva, and is highly regarded in both Ayurveda and Tantric Alchemy,Rasayana, Rasa Vidya, Kaya Kalpa and related sciences. The famous Indian adept Nagarjuna (7th century)has written: " give me any disease, and I cure it with Mercury " . The problem with Mercury is not Mercury itself but the wrong and unskilful preparations of this Metal.If Mercury is prepared ( at least 18 Processes (called Samskaras) over a long period of time, it can be made into highly effective and potent remedies, which either can be worn on the body or ingested. I myself have watched many times such preparations of Mercury, and have used it extensively. True solidified Mercury is such a highly valuable product.(Among many others) You may want to update yourself with regards to some of the Alchemical/Ayurvedic preparations of Mercury and other metals (all of which can be used avantageously as upaye in Jyotish)by studying (initially)the basic 5 Volume set of " RasaJala Nidhi- or Ocean of Indian Chemistry,Medicine and Alchemy " by Bhudeb Mukerjee. As an end note, I would like to add, that I have met and lived with an Indian Adept of this science who at the time of our meeting was well over a 110 years old.He has attributed his longevity to every day using Mercury.Ingesting it.Not only that.Hatha Yogis use raw mercury (triple distilled)during vajroli mudra (among others). Incidentally none of them said " yuk " to Mercury. As the Sperm of Shiva, they treated it with the highest respect.Worshipped it. Mercury is the bestower of incredibely radiant health,siddhis and youth. If your punya will allow this in this life and will be able to obtain a true " rasa gulika " or a solidified Mercury made in the shape and form of Siva Linga (not the commecially available-that is nearly useless),AND if you do you Maha Mrtyunjaya Mantra with this Shiva Linga (there is a entire " vidya " concerning this)-THEN you will KNOW the difference. Perhaps, after that you wil not say " Yuk " to Mercury. With best wishes and highest regard: Arpad Joo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Hare Rama Krishna, Jaya Jagannatha Dear Swee, yes Mercury is a rank and file poison.It can kill a person very fast, if you would heat it up slightly and then inhale it (PLEASE DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME OR ANYWHERE!!!). This will produce a paralysis of the lungs.Not a nice way to go :-( Therefore the adept who is preparing mercurial/achemical medicines must have not only the proper transmissions(diksha) but very precise instructions as well. The point has been raised whether any other metal can/must be admitted to pepare the " famous " Rasa Gulika or solidified mercury. The asnwer is NO!!! Mercury only please.One day Idid approach my Guru (in these matters)asking him whether i would be appropriate to " bury " my natal chart (north Indian drawing)in the " opened up " mercury. I have heard that this will protect the person all the time. He was first amused then became upset. No- he said- Mercury is a Divine substance and after the samskaras, very pure. DON'T DO IT!!! You see, this is what happens when you prepare mercury: The body of the metal will open up, so to speak and become very-very sensitive to all influences. This means the thoughts/spiritual stature of the adept,the planetary influences at the time (muhurta.etc)Then and there it is wise to due an extended puja, first purifying the place then invoking the desired Deva, for the " opened up " mercury will soak up the energy/consciousness and when it solidifies it will " lock it in " . Once it is locked in, it stays and will radiate that power indefinetely to the wearer. This will work better then any gemstone-trust me. There are two major ways of dealing with Mercury: The " Wet Way " and the " Dry Way " .The latter is used exclusively by Indo/Tibetan adepts. (Though I understand, there is a mercurial tradition in Chinese alchemy as well-and they also use the " dry Way " .But, I must admit I ave never seen Chinese adepts work on mercury) Tamil Siddhas are well known also for this type of preparations. The Europeans ,however use a much more torturous method of the " wet way " (via sicca)and produce the coveted " oil of Mercury " . This is without doubt a very powerful preparation especially when it is used for transmutation of metals.But it is very difficult to produce. I know of only one adept (in France) who have made it.(Yes, I have met him a few times) Going back to Rasa Vidya (rasa has many meaning in Skt, among others: taste,(ayurveda)refinement of culture (as enjoyment of music or poetry),MERCURY,dew,essence etc.)-the solidified Mercury can be made into (before solidification)many different shapes-according to your purpose/intention. I do recommend however the Siva Linga (with Yoni!) for the regular Saddhana of Maha Mrtyunjaya Mantra. This is done with pure (whole) milk, as it is poured over the Linga and then drank at the end of saddhana.The procedure(as always)with the appropriate nyasas,mudras etc must be learned from a competent Guru.Diksha is a MUST!!! The results? I am not competent to answer this question-however it has been likened to the mythical " kalpavriskha " . At the very least you will have total " graha Shanti " . So they say. You may draw you own conclusions. I hope that the above was somewhat helpful to you. With deep respect: Arpad Joo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Arpad Joo, Namaste Gemstones, mantras, kavachas all have remedial potencies. It has been noted that many a siddha, sage or his personified being is known to wear a kavacha enclosed in a casing and these personalities take births with the same kavacha round their necks. In that manner we all take births to re-adjust our energies in different life times. Being under the influence of Rahu’s grip, I don’t know if I ever want to live that long in an altered state of “Mercury-yuk” ;-)) After all, the vimsottari dasa of Moon as AK in gandanta has way past it’s time for me with a survival that took me to another great RY. Having achieved all that and having survived 2 hold ups at gun point to add to my diary, much is yet to be learnt from my Guru. I see your Venusian traits are stronger with the Northern Indian chart. Please share your chart. Love, Swee On 12/20/06 4:03 PM, " Arpad Joo " <panchasila wrote: Hare Rama Krishna, Jaya Jagannatha Dear Swee, yes Mercury is a rank and file poison.It can kill a person very fast, if you would heat it up slightly and then inhale it (PLEASE DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME OR ANYWHERE!!!). This will produce a paralysis of the lungs.Not a nice way to go :-( Therefore the adept who is preparing mercurial/achemical medicines must have not only the proper transmissions(diksha) but very precise instructions as well. The point has been raised whether any other metal can/must be admitted to pepare the " famous " Rasa Gulika or solidified mercury. The asnwer is NO!!! Mercury only please.One day Idid approach my Guru (in these matters)asking him whether i would be appropriate to " bury " my natal chart (north Indian drawing)in the " opened up " mercury. I have heard that this will protect the person all the time. He was first amused then became upset. No- he said- Mercury is a Divine substance and after the samskaras, very pure. DON'T DO IT!!! You see, this is what happens when you prepare mercury: The body of the metal will open up, so to speak and become very-very sensitive to all influences. This means the thoughts/spiritual stature of the adept,the planetary influences at the time (muhurta.etc)Then and there it is wise to due an extended puja, first purifying the place then invoking the desired Deva, for the " opened up " mercury will soak up the energy/consciousness and when it solidifies it will " lock it in " . Once it is locked in, it stays and will radiate that power indefinetely to the wearer. This will work better then any gemstone-trust me. There are two major ways of dealing with Mercury: The " Wet Way " and the " Dry Way " .The latter is used exclusively by Indo/Tibetan adepts. (Though I understand, there is a mercurial tradition in Chinese alchemy as well-and they also use the " dry Way " .But, I must admit I ave never seen Chinese adepts work on mercury) Tamil Siddhas are well known also for this type of preparations. The Europeans ,however use a much more torturous method of the " wet way " (via sicca)and produce the coveted " oil of Mercury " . This is without doubt a very powerful preparation especially when it is used for transmutation of metals.But it is very difficult to produce. I know of only one adept (in France) who have made it.(Yes, I have met him a few times) Going back to Rasa Vidya (rasa has many meaning in Skt, among others: taste,(ayurveda)refinement of culture (as enjoyment of music or poetry),MERCURY,dew,essence etc.)-the solidified Mercury can be made into (before solidification)many different shapes-according to your purpose/intention. I do recommend however the Siva Linga (with Yoni!) for the regular Saddhana of Maha Mrtyunjaya Mantra. This is done with pure (whole) milk, as it is poured over the Linga and then drank at the end of saddhana.The procedure(as always)with the appropriate nyasas,mudras etc must be learned from a competent Guru.Diksha is a MUST!!! The results? I am not competent to answer this question-however it has been likened to the mythical " kalpavriskha " . At the very least you will have total " graha Shanti " . So they say. You may draw you own conclusions. I hope that the above was somewhat helpful to you. With deep respect: Arpad Joo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Swee ji,Om namoh Bhagwate Rudraya Swaha.I have read your writings in Awe,How many hats you wear you are proficient in Astrology,experts in Gems,Spiritually advances,what else we dont know about you.Gobinder,Las vegas. --- Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Arpad Joo, > Namaste > > Gemstones, mantras, kavachas all have remedial > potencies. It has been noted > that many a siddha, sage or his personified being is > known to wear a kavacha > enclosed in a casing and these personalities take > births with the same > kavacha round their necks. > In that manner we all take births to re-adjust our > energies in different > life times. Being under the influence of Rahu¹s > grip, I don¹t know if I ever > want to live that long in an altered state of > ³Mercury-yuk² ;-)) After all, > the vimsottari dasa of Moon as AK in gandanta has > way past it¹s time for me > with a survival that took me to another great RY. > Having achieved all that > and having survived 2 hold ups at gun point to add > to my diary, much is yet > to be learnt from my Guru. > > I see your Venusian traits are stronger with the > Northern Indian chart. > Please share your chart. > > Love, > > Swee > > > > On 12/20/06 4:03 PM, " Arpad Joo " > <panchasila wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna, > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > yes Mercury is a rank and file poison.It can kill > a person very fast, > > if you would heat it up slightly and then inhale > it (PLEASE DON'T TRY > > THIS AT HOME OR ANYWHERE!!!). This will produce a > paralysis of the > > lungs.Not a nice way to go :-( > > Therefore the adept who is preparing > mercurial/achemical medicines > > must have not only the proper > transmissions(diksha) but very precise > > instructions as well. > > The point has been raised whether any other metal > can/must be admitted > > to pepare the " famous " Rasa Gulika or solidified > mercury. The asnwer > > is NO!!! Mercury only please.One day Idid approach > my Guru (in these > > matters)asking him whether i would be appropriate > to " bury " my natal > > chart (north Indian drawing)in the " opened up " > mercury. I have heard > > that this will protect the person all the time. > > He was first amused then became upset. No- he > said- Mercury is a > > Divine substance and after the samskaras, very > pure. DON'T DO IT!!! > > You see, this is what happens when you prepare > mercury: > > The body of the metal will open up, so to speak > and become very-very > > sensitive to all influences. This means the > thoughts/spiritual stature > > of the adept,the planetary influences at the time > (muhurta.etc)Then > > and there it is wise to due an extended puja, > first purifying the > > place then invoking the desired Deva, for the > " opened up " mercury > > will soak up the energy/consciousness and when it > solidifies it > > will " lock it in " . Once it is locked in, it stays > and will radiate > > that power indefinetely to the wearer. > > This will work better then any gemstone-trust me. > > There are two major ways of dealing with Mercury: > > The " Wet Way " and the " Dry Way " .The latter is used > exclusively by > > Indo/Tibetan adepts. (Though I understand, there > is a mercurial > > tradition in Chinese alchemy as well-and they also > use the " dry > > Way " .But, I must admit I ave never seen Chinese > adepts work on mercury) > > Tamil Siddhas are well known also for this type of > preparations. The > > Europeans ,however use a much more torturous > method of the " wet way " > > (via sicca)and produce the coveted " oil of > Mercury " . This is without > > doubt a very powerful preparation especially when > it is used for > > transmutation of metals.But it is very difficult > to produce. I know of > > only one adept (in France) who have made it.(Yes, > I have met him a few > > times) > > Going back to Rasa Vidya (rasa has many meaning in > Skt, among others: > > taste,(ayurveda)refinement of culture (as > enjoyment of music or > > poetry),MERCURY,dew,essence etc.)-the solidified > Mercury can be made > > into (before solidification)many different > shapes-according to your > > purpose/intention. I do recommend however the Siva > Linga (with Yoni!) > > for the regular Saddhana of Maha Mrtyunjaya > Mantra. This is done with > > pure (whole) milk, as it is poured over the Linga > and then drank at > > the end of saddhana.The procedure(as always)with > the appropriate > > nyasas,mudras etc must be learned from a competent > Guru.Diksha is a > > MUST!!! > > The results? I am not competent to answer this > question-however it has > > been likened to the mythical " kalpavriskha " . At > the very least you > > will have total " graha Shanti " . So they say. > > You may draw you own conclusions. > > I hope that the above was somewhat helpful to you. > > > > With deep respect: > > Arpad Joo > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Respected Arpad Joo, I express deep respect for Guru, Diksha and Mantra and other religious rituals. But some scientist's opinion is that all these formalities are to keep the PROCESS secret and first clean one's soul and mind from all negative distructive and selfish thinking, so that he/she can not misuse the sacred knowledge or power. (Like Bhasmaasura). However, there are very scientific and most sophisticated processes already developed and are in use in labs of developed countries for Mercury solidification/purification. As it comes under atomic processes, so these are kept secrete. Many poisons are used in preparing medicines also. As diamond is also called poisoneos but these are found in coal mines. Sacrin(or saakarin) is used to make sweet drinks, which is also made from coal. While Samudra-Manthan both poison and necter extracted. Sex or kaama is treated among one of five major sins, but it is the only cause of Srishti or regeneration. Likewise entire universe is running with magnetic power. By the gravitational force planets are moving round the stars. (As Earth, Mars... move round the Sun). All dynamo or alternator or generators are built and runes by the rotations, which comes from flux of magnetic fields move. Electricity is used of run the Motors of fans and other machines. Likewise in a atom electrons, protons moves round teh nuclear. The main source of all the energy is magnetic force - attracting opposite pole, and expelling similar pole. Entire role is made by the Chakra, or wheel, moving coutinueosly. In Jyotish also every planet plays a multiple role(sometimes good, sometimes bad) in combination of other planets, stars and time. So a perfect balance or harmony of negetive and positive both energies are required for good health, good fortune, good world. Different chakra made and worshiped for good results. Hariram Posted by: " Arpad Joo " panchasila panchasila Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:08 am (PST) Hare Rama Krishna,Jaya JagannathaDear Swee,yes Mercury is ............ the solidified Mercury can be made into (before solidification)many different shapes-according to your purpose/intention. I do recommend however the Siva Linga (with Yoni!) for the regular Saddhana of Maha Mrtyunjaya Mantra. This is done with pure (whole) milk, as it is poured over the Linga and then drank at the end of saddhana.The procedure(as always)with the appropriate nyasas,mudras etc must be learned from a competent Guru.Diksha is a MUST!!!The results? I am not competent to answer this question-however it has been likened to the mythical " kalpavriskha " . At the very least you will have total " graha Shanti " . So they say. You may draw you own conclusions.I hope that the above was somewhat helpful to you.With deep respect:Arpad Joo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 - Hare Rama Krishna!Dear Swee, I am sorry to hear about your two holdups...but take heart from a fellow traveller in AK dasha-with Divine Grace -we survive :-)I have just finished my Shani Dasha (Shani is AK in the 12th bhava)both in Vimshottari and Muladashas, which were running concurrently! (yes, ouch-)Well, all I can say that it was't exactly a picnic! After loosing all that can be lost,family,wife,children,existence-just to name a few- my AK has driven home the lesson hard: the only and REAL purpose of life is Saddhana.Abhyasa.The Tantrics maybe right after all: All the World is the Smashan of Kali.The fires are burning everywhere and the world is a cremation ground. Time burns and devours everything. But there is infinite beauty and Divine Grace in everything. But back to Mercury: Life extension,Kaya Kalpa and related practices are give to a few only. I recommend strongly for you to read (if you have not done it so already), a very interesting Autobiography of Tapasvin Maharaj, who left his body at the age of 160+. (within recent memory). There is plenty of "mercurial tales",Kaya kalpa, rejuvenation etc. (and much more). I can personally vouch for some of these experiences, for I did "ran" into some similar adepts. And now, I promise that I get off this trail of Mercury. The only reason I have ventured into this field and sharing my (limited) thoughts and experiences concerning this matter is because of your erudite piece on the metals in general and "Mercury yuk" in particular. This last exclamation of yours has undoubtedly irritated some karmic impurity in me, to the extent of writing a somewhat "lame " defence in the Sperm of Shiva.(Not that it needs my defending though) But one thing I assure you: everything which I have written is first hand experience. I do not believe in re-hashing other's experiences and then passing it on as some great word of wisdom. With deep respect Arpad Joo -- In sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrot. >> Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Arpad Joo,> Namaste> > Gemstones, mantras, kavachas all have remedial potencies. It has been noted> that many a siddha, sage or his personified being is known to wear a kavacha> enclosed in a casing and these personalities take births with the same> kavacha round their necks.> In that manner we all take births to re-adjust our energies in different> life times. Being under the influence of Rahu¹s grip, I don¹t know if I ever> want to live that long in an altered state of ³Mercury-yuk² ;-)) After all,> the vimsottari dasa of Moon as AK in gandanta has way past it¹s time for me> with a survival that took me to another great RY. Having achieved all that> and having survived 2 hold ups at gun point to add to my diary, much is yet> to be learnt from my Guru.> > I see your Venusian traits are stronger with the Northern Indian chart.> Please share your chart.> > Love,> > Swee> > > > On 12/20/06 4:03 PM, "Arpad Joo" panchasila wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Swee,> > > > yes Mercury is a rank and file poison.It can kill a person very fast,> > if you would heat it up slightly and then inhale it (PLEASE DON'T TRY> > THIS AT HOME OR ANYWHERE!!!). This will produce a paralysis of the> > lungs.Not a nice way to go :-(> > Therefore the adept who is preparing mercurial/achemical medicines> > must have not only the proper transmissions(diksha) but very precise> > instructions as well.> > The point has been raised whether any other metal can/must be admitted> > to pepare the "famous" Rasa Gulika or solidified mercury. The asnwer> > is NO!!! Mercury only please.One day Idid approach my Guru (in these> > matters)asking him whether i would be appropriate to "bury" my natal> > chart (north Indian drawing)in the "opened up " mercury. I have heard> > that this will protect the person all the time.> > He was first amused then became upset. No- he said- Mercury is a> > Divine substance and after the samskaras, very pure. DON'T DO IT!!!> > You see, this is what happens when you prepare mercury:> > The body of the metal will open up, so to speak and become very-very> > sensitive to all influences. This means the thoughts/spiritual stature> > of the adept,the planetary influences at the time (muhurta.etc)Then> > and there it is wise to due an extended puja, first purifying the> > place then invoking the desired Deva, for the "opened up" mercury> > will soak up the energy/consciousness and when it solidifies it> > will "lock it in". Once it is locked in, it stays and will radiate> > that power indefinetely to the wearer.> > This will work better then any gemstone-trust me.> > There are two major ways of dealing with Mercury:> > The "Wet Way" and the "Dry Way".The latter is used exclusively by> > Indo/Tibetan adepts. (Though I understand, there is a mercurial> > tradition in Chinese alchemy as well-and they also use the "dry> > Way".But, I must admit I ave never seen Chinese adepts work on mercury)> > Tamil Siddhas are well known also for this type of preparations. The> > Europeans ,however use a much more torturous method of the "wet way"> > (via sicca)and produce the coveted "oil of Mercury". This is without> > doubt a very powerful preparation especially when it is used for> > transmutation of metals.But it is very difficult to produce. I know of> > only one adept (in France) who have made it.(Yes, I have met him a few> > times)> > Going back to Rasa Vidya (rasa has many meaning in Skt, among others:> > taste,(ayurveda)refinement of culture (as enjoyment of music or> > poetry),MERCURY,dew,essence etc.)-the solidified Mercury can be made> > into (before solidification)many different shapes-according to your> > purpose/intention. I do recommend however the Siva Linga (with Yoni!)> > for the regular Saddhana of Maha Mrtyunjaya Mantra. This is done with> > pure (whole) milk, as it is poured over the Linga and then drank at> > the end of saddhana.The procedure(as always)with the appropriate> > nyasas,mudras etc must be learned from a competent Guru.Diksha is a> > MUST!!!> > The results? I am not competent to answer this question-however it has> > been likened to the mythical "kalpavriskha". At the very least you> > will have total"graha Shanti". So they say.> > You may draw you own conclusions.> > I hope that the above was somewhat helpful to you.> > > > With deep respect:> > Arpad Joo> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Dear Hariram and Arpad Joo, Jaya Jagannatha, Jaya Gurudeva Some ramblings: Your diksha mantra remains just that and should be the only mantra you need to chant on a daily basis. After that, training in other peripherial subject become studies. The Guru will choose only the one he trusts most not to misuse any knowledge he has imparted to the sishya. That is my understanding. I have begun reading again on Charaka Samhita but was saving this sort of writings for later, in gemstone healing. Though being taught ayurvedic applications, I am yet to be taught alchemy. I assume herbal medicines are categorised in the usual manner – sweet, sour, astringent etc for various purposes depending on the person. You may refer to my article “East Meets East” on the flow chart and this helps in the identifying the supportive types of herbs or the supportive types of gemstones. Talking of which, Diamond comes form carbon and carbo vegetalis (carcinogenic to some, as it is a certain type of vegetable or animal etc that has been browned/gently burnt to a cinder and used as a bhasma) would be the last resort to give a patient in his/her debilitating state. In the same manner, mahamrityu mantra works the same way – the 3 methods of Venusian healing. Personally, I cannot bring myself to ingest diamond – I can imagine my jagged innards shredded. It would be like drinking the water from Lake Kariba – a man made lake whose water flows into the great Zambezi into the Indian Ocean. There is so much mica which the human eye cannot detect and yet we can also benefit from the mineral content of this mica. From my mine in the East, the mica in its raw state with each peeled off layer harbours different minerals. This normally gives a hint as to which colour gemstone I should expect. Of course, unsavoury traces of tantallum especially iron (Mars) turns the gemstone from dark ochre to the most unattractive darkest shade of brown (almost black), then there’s the eye catching lapidolite (crsytallisation) or chrome (Mineral) etc bring in the most wanted rubellite. For a pitta person through Mars’s angst or Sun’s ego, we really should avoid these pastes for ingestion. Hariram, it is no secret that a particular tree secretes the resin/gum that is used in healing or in a yagna. I wonder if that offensive asofoetida is an extract from this as they have a similar odour. The Chakra has 3 parallel methods too and so too are the applications with Sudarshan, Kartaveerya or shanti to Navagraha. Take your pick. Yet, each of these works differently for each singled out planet. Arpad Joo, we do have handed down family secrets but all are time consuming for me as no one (not even my Mother, whose had her name acknowledged in one of the published papers at Harvard Uni. with her cure of some unknown disease where all other doctors/professors have miserably failed can help with my preferred latin names where herbs are concerned. Of course, Corryllium, (solid) mercury etc are all part and parcel of these ancient treasures. Love, Swee On 12/21/06 7:50 AM, " Hariram Pansari " <hariraama wrote: Respected Arpad Joo, I express deep respect for Guru, Diksha and Mantra and other religious rituals. But some scientist's opinion is that all these formalities are to keep the PROCESS secret and first clean one's soul and mind from all negative distructive and selfish thinking, so that he/she can not misuse the sacred knowledge or power. (Like Bhasmaasura). However, there are very scientific and most sophisticated processes already developed and are in use in labs of developed countries for Mercury solidification/purification. As it comes under atomic processes, so these are kept secrete. Many poisons are used in preparing medicines also. As diamond is also called poisoneos but these are found in coal mines. Sacrin(or saakarin) is used to make sweet drinks, which is also made from coal. While Samudra-Manthan both poison and necter extracted. Sex or kaama is treated among one of five major sins, but it is the only cause of Srishti or regeneration. Likewise entire universe is running with magnetic power. By the gravitational force planets are moving round the stars. (As Earth, Mars... move round the Sun). All dynamo or alternator or generators are built and runes by the rotations, which comes from flux of magnetic fields move. Electricity is used of run the Motors of fans and other machines. Likewise in a atom electrons, protons moves round teh nuclear. The main source of all the energy is magnetic force - attracting opposite pole, and expelling similar pole. Entire role is made by the Chakra, or wheel, moving coutinueosly. In Jyotish also every planet plays a multiple role(sometimes good, sometimes bad) in combination of other planets, stars and time. So a perfect balance or harmony of negetive and positive both energies are required for good health, good fortune, good world. Different chakra made and worshiped for good results. Hariram Posted by: " Arpad Joo " panchasila <panchasila?Subject=+Re%3A%20Mercury%2C%20a%20poison%3F%20Yuk%3F> panchasila <http://profiles./panchasila> Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:08 am (PST) Hare Rama Krishna, Jaya Jagannatha Dear Swee, yes Mercury is ............ the solidified Mercury can be made into (before solidification)many different shapes-according to your purpose/intention. I do recommend however the Siva Linga (with Yoni!) for the regular Saddhana of Maha Mrtyunjaya Mantra. This is done with pure (whole) milk, as it is poured over the Linga and then drank at the end of saddhana.The procedure(as always)with the appropriate nyasas,mudras etc must be learned from a competent Guru.Diksha is a MUST!!! The results? I am not competent to answer this question-however it has been likened to the mythical " kalpavriskha " . At the very least you will have total " graha Shanti " . So they say. You may draw you own conclusions. I hope that the above was somewhat helpful to you. With deep respect: Arpad Joo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Arpad Joo, Namaste A picnic is what the mind makes of it. An aspect from a malefic gives sorrowful (Saturn) venomous and vengeful (Rahu and Mars) thoughts. Just last week my daughter reminded me that yogis would rather breathe in less (pranayam) so that they can live longer – the reason why with the intake breathe while chanting the mantra is shorter. Thank you for sharing a snippet of your chart and I apologise for hitting that bad chord on my sitar, it touched your nerve. Without any ado, the Hunza Indian eat Hunza apricots ---- anything in this?? Then scientists discovered that it was due to the surface water tension that is not a tensile as most water, hence they do have a tendency to live past 120. Can you please give me the publisher’s name of this wonderful autobiography? Love, Swee On 12/21/06 10:50 AM, " Arpad Joo " <panchasila wrote: Hare Rama Krishna! Dear Swee, I am sorry to hear about your two holdups...but take heart from a fellow traveller in AK dasha-with Divine Grace -we survive :-) I have just finished my Shani Dasha (Shani is AK in the 12th bhava)both in Vimshottari and Muladashas, which were running concurrently! (yes, ouch-)Well, all I can say that it was't exactly a picnic! After loosing all that can be lost,family,wife,children,existence-just to name a few- my AK has driven home the lesson hard: the only and REAL purpose of life is Saddhana.Abhyasa.The Tantrics maybe right after all: All the World is the Smashan of Kali.The fires are burning everywhere and the world is a cremation ground. Time burns and devours everything. But there is infinite beauty and Divine Grace in everything. But back to Mercury: Life extension,Kaya Kalpa and related practices are give to a few only. I recommend strongly for you to read (if you have not done it so already), a very interesting Autobiography of Tapasvin Maharaj, who left his body at the age of 160+. (within recent memory). There is plenty of " mercurial tales " ,Kaya kalpa, rejuvenation etc. (and much more). I can personally vouch for some of these experiences, for I did " ran " into some similar adepts. And now, I promise that I get off this trail of Mercury. The only reason I have ventured into this field and sharing my (limited) thoughts and experiences concerning this matter is because of your erudite piece on the metals in general and " Mercury yuk " in particular. This last exclamation of yours has undoubtedly irritated some karmic impurity in me, to the extent of writing a somewhat " lame " defence in the Sperm of Shiva.(Not that it needs my defending though) But one thing I assure you: everything which I have written is first hand experience. I do not believe in re-hashing other's experiences and then passing it on as some great word of wisdom. With deep respect Arpad Joo -- In sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrot. > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Arpad Joo, > Namaste > > Gemstones, mantras, kavachas all have remedial potencies. It has been noted > that many a siddha, sage or his personified being is known to wear a kavacha > enclosed in a casing and these personalities take births with the same > kavacha round their necks. > In that manner we all take births to re-adjust our energies in different > life times. Being under the influence of Rahu’s grip, I don’t know if I ever > want to live that long in an altered state of “Mercury-yuk” ;-)) After all, > the vimsottari dasa of Moon as AK in gandanta has way past it’s time for me > with a survival that took me to another great RY. Having achieved all that > and having survived 2 hold ups at gun point to add to my diary, much is yet > to be learnt from my Guru. > > I see your Venusian traits are stronger with the Northern Indian chart. > Please share your chart. > > Love, > > Swee > > > > On 12/20/06 4:03 PM, " Arpad Joo " panchasila wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna, > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > yes Mercury is a rank and file poison.It can kill a person very fast, > > if you would heat it up slightly and then inhale it (PLEASE DON'T TRY > > THIS AT HOME OR ANYWHERE!!!). This will produce a paralysis of the > > lungs.Not a nice way to go :-( > > Therefore the adept who is preparing mercurial/achemical medicines > > must have not only the proper transmissions(diksha) but very precise > > instructions as well. > > The point has been raised whether any other metal can/must be admitted > > to pepare the " famous " Rasa Gulika or solidified mercury. The asnwer > > is NO!!! Mercury only please.One day Idid approach my Guru (in these > > matters)asking him whether i would be appropriate to " bury " my natal > > chart (north Indian drawing)in the " opened up " mercury. I have heard > > that this will protect the person all the time. > > He was first amused then became upset. No- he said- Mercury is a > > Divine substance and after the samskaras, very pure. DON'T DO IT!!! > > You see, this is what happens when you prepare mercury: > > The body of the metal will open up, so to speak and become very-very > > sensitive to all influences. This means the thoughts/spiritual stature > > of the adept,the planetary influences at the time (muhurta.etc)Then > > and there it is wise to due an extended puja, first purifying the > > place then invoking the desired Deva, for the " opened up " mercury > > will soak up the energy/consciousness and when it solidifies it > > will " lock it in " . Once it is locked in, it stays and will radiate > > that power indefinetely to the wearer. > > This will work better then any gemstone-trust me. > > There are two major ways of dealing with Mercury: > > The " Wet Way " and the " Dry Way " .The latter is used exclusively by > > Indo/Tibetan adepts. (Though I understand, there is a mercurial > > tradition in Chinese alchemy as well-and they also use the " dry > > Way " .But, I must admit I ave never seen Chinese adepts work on mercury) > > Tamil Siddhas are well known also for this type of preparations. The > > Europeans ,however use a much more torturous method of the " wet way " > > (via sicca)and produce the coveted " oil of Mercury " . This is without > > doubt a very powerful preparation especially when it is used for > > transmutation of metals.But it is very difficult to produce. I know of > > only one adept (in France) who have made it.(Yes, I have met him a few > > times) > > Going back to Rasa Vidya (rasa has many meaning in Skt, among others: > > taste,(ayurveda)refinement of culture (as enjoyment of music or > > poetry),MERCURY,dew,essence etc.)-the solidified Mercury can be made > > into (before solidification)many different shapes-according to your > > purpose/intention. I do recommend however the Siva Linga (with Yoni!) > > for the regular Saddhana of Maha Mrtyunjaya Mantra. This is done with > > pure (whole) milk, as it is poured over the Linga and then drank at > > the end of saddhana.The procedure(as always)with the appropriate > > nyasas,mudras etc must be learned from a competent Guru.Diksha is a > > MUST!!! > > The results? I am not competent to answer this question-however it has > > been likened to the mythical " kalpavriskha " . At the very least you > > will have total " graha Shanti " . So they say. > > You may draw you own conclusions. > > I hope that the above was somewhat helpful to you. > > > > With deep respect: > > Arpad Joo > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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