Guest guest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Rafal,Can you please clarify why his studying law is connected to his charachter through the Sun and Mercury. Isn't the strong influence of Mars and Jupiter on the 4th house of education indicative of a law. Sun shows political association rather than law does it not?Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Sharat, Wladimir Putin October 7, 1952Time: 9:30:00Time Zone: 5:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 30 E 15' 00", 59 N 53' 00" He studied law which is very connecte to his character as Sun is in D1 and D9 with mahapurusa Yoga in Rasichart. Here the tenth lord is forming simhasana yoga with Surya which is also surya lord giving very strong raja yoga as buddha is vargotam (very good speaking at english and german and like sport) and atmakaraka. what is sumarizing this yoga is presence of 5L - Sani which gives maharaja yoga and also raja yoga with tenth lord. As A10 is there its full. In year 85 and 90 he had job (6H) connected to spies (aq lords rahu) on territory of enemy (6H) and it was invigilation. We see that Rahu is in fifth bhava which gives mind connected and able to invigilate as it is GK it will be His enemy. In 96 his political career started as it is seventh bhava (door) and kendra to Surya/L and AL aspected by Rajayoga and Mahapurusa Yoga with a10. In antardasa of Gemini (next dual sign which has the same yogas on head) he became premier. And in cn dasa (5 from MD) and lord in ninth bhava exalted - he became head of country. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Sharat sohamsa Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:58 PM Re: Planet conjunctions and parivartan Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Thanks for your help. Please can I have Putin's details so I can study his chart. Regards, Sharat - Rafal Gendarz sohamsa Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:22 PM Re: Planet conjunctions and parivartan hraum namah adityaya Dear Sharat. Commentsbelow Regards Rafal Gendarz - Sharat sohamsa Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:27 PM Planet conjunctions and parivartan Om Gurave Namah Dear learned members, I seek query regarding the following: 1. If there is parivartan between benefic lagnesh and malefic trine lord, their effects will be felt in each other's mahadasa or antar dasa or both. Will the focus of change begin from the Lagan or the Lagnesh? [rafal] if parivartana is in d9 then the dasa are exchanging the effects else not. in d1 we see transformation from one state to the other, if this involved al,l or lagnesh then we are transforming. malefic trine lord have the quality of karaka=jupiter, so it can give damage for good things or through harsh things..in Putin's chart there is simhasana yoga with 5L in Lagna with Mahapurusa but they are saturn and surya so throught dethrowment and authoritatve ways he win the ellection. as rahu is aspecting mahapurusa from 95 to 00 in aq-md (padakrama dasa) he was involved in spy-projects (germany). beside topic: in dual signs he get raja yoga (kendra to su/l/al) and aspected by raja yoga and mahapurusa. 2.What happens if the Lagnesh is in conjuction with other planet(s)? Which maha or antar dasa will effect it and which sequence? Will it be first' privartan' planet and then conjunct planet or vice versa? [rafal] the effects you can read in classics ( i think phaldeepika). if you want to see which MD / AD then you must use the same system as in the Maraka's. First divide longevity for three parts and see..yogas in 2,4,8,10 are having fructification in first period..you can use Naisargika Dasa with it. 3..Lastly, in conjunction of planets, is Surya taken as benefic or malefic? [rafal] surya is malefic except dharma & = marriage. Thanks, Regards, Sharat Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Rafal,Please can we see the chart. There must be some connection of Jupiter there for the person to be studying law. Just because they want to become a politician after studying law, doesn't mean that Surya can become karaka for any subject. What if someone was studying business but had aspirations of becoming President? Then surely we would expect to see Mercury there indicating study of business.How to see that Putin studied Law from his Siddhamsa? The chart may need rectification. In his book he writes that he always wanted to be a spy, and that he was told that the best way to achieve that was to get a degree in Law. So what should we look for - Jupiter influencing the 9th house of higher studies?Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Dear Michal, I have chart where person has Sun in 9h in D24 and is studying law. Law is connected to politics, so if You would judge (ethics) then its Jupiter but if You would lead then its Surya. All depends what is on the end. For Putin it was to lead. D1 Lagna is general overall personality while details we see in D24. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Michal Dziwulski sohamsa Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:16 PM Re: Putin's Chart - Rafalji [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Rafal,Can you please clarify why his studying law is connected to his charachter through the Sun and Mercury. Isn't the strong influence of Mars and Jupiter on the 4th house of education indicative of a law. Sun shows political association rather than law does it not?Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Sharat, Wladimir Putin October 7, 1952Time: 9:30:00Time Zone: 5:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 30 E 15' 00", 59 N 53' 00" He studied law which is very connecte to his character as Sun is in D1 and D9 with mahapurusa Yoga in Rasichart. Here the tenth lord is forming simhasana yoga with Surya which is also surya lord giving very strong raja yoga as buddha is vargotam (very good speaking at english and german and like sport) and atmakaraka. what is sumarizing this yoga is presence of 5L - Sani which gives maharaja yoga and also raja yoga with tenth lord. As A10 is there its full. In year 85 and 90 he had job (6H) connected to spies (aq lords rahu) on territory of enemy (6H) and it was invigilation. We see that Rahu is in fifth bhava which gives mind connected and able to invigilate as it is GK it will be His enemy. In 96 his political career started as it is seventh bhava (door) and kendra to Surya/L and AL aspected by Rajayoga and Mahapurusa Yoga with a10. In antardasa of Gemini (next dual sign which has the same yogas on head) he became premier. And in cn dasa (5 from MD) and lord in ninth bhava exalted - he became head of country. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Sharat sohamsa Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:58 PM Re: Planet conjunctions and parivartan Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Thanks for your help. Please can I have Putin's details so I can study his chart. Regards, Sharat - Rafal Gendarz sohamsa Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:22 PM Re: Planet conjunctions and parivartan hraum namah adityaya Dear Sharat. Commentsbelow Regards Rafal Gendarz - Sharat sohamsa Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:27 PM Planet conjunctions and parivartan Om Gurave Namah Dear learned members, I seek query regarding the following: 1. If there is parivartan between benefic lagnesh and malefic trine lord, their effects will be felt in each other's mahadasa or antar dasa or both. Will the focus of change begin from the Lagan or the Lagnesh? [rafal] if parivartana is in d9 then the dasa are exchanging the effects else not. in d1 we see transformation from one state to the other, if this involved al,l or lagnesh then we are transforming. malefic trine lord have the quality of karaka=jupiter, so it can give damage for good things or through harsh things..in Putin's chart there is simhasana yoga with 5L in Lagna with Mahapurusa but they are saturn and surya so throught dethrowment and authoritatve ways he win the ellection. as rahu is aspecting mahapurusa from 95 to 00 in aq-md (padakrama dasa) he was involved in spy-projects (germany). beside topic: in dual signs he get raja yoga (kendra to su/l/al) and aspected by raja yoga and mahapurusa. 2.What happens if the Lagnesh is in conjuction with other planet(s)? Which maha or antar dasa will effect it and which sequence? Will it be first' privartan' planet and then conjunct planet or vice versa? [rafal] the effects you can read in classics ( i think phaldeepika). if you want to see which MD / AD then you must use the same system as in the Maraka's. First divide longevity for three parts and see..yogas in 2,4,8,10 are having fructification in first period..you can use Naisargika Dasa with it. 3..Lastly, in conjunction of planets, is Surya taken as benefic or malefic? [rafal] surya is malefic except dharma & = marriage. Thanks, Regards, Sharat Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Rafal,Where did you learn that for Law you can see Surya? Do you have a classical reference? In the 2005 Oct-Dec issue of the Jyotish Digest Sanjay wrote an article with many examples of Lawyers and their D10 charts and D24 charts citing Jupiter as the Karaka for Law. There is no mention of Sun. Please provide some example charts for the purpose of learning.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Michal, I mean that Law is connected to politics therefore Surya can indicate the same. Its not question of person's motivation but its the substance of subject what is important. So Jupiter I would like to see for philosophy, history etc while for Law I can see Surya..I didnt looked at Putin-D24. His passion is seen from 7L - Rahu.. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Michal Dziwulski sohamsa Friday, December 01, 2006 8:05 PM Re: Putin's Chart - Rafalji [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Rafal,Please can we see the chart. There must be some connection of Jupiter there for the person to be studying law. Just because they want to become a politician after studying law, doesn't mean that Surya can become karaka for any subject. What if someone was studying business but had aspirations of becoming President? Then surely we would expect to see Mercury there indicating study of business.How to see that Putin studied Law from his Siddhamsa? The chart may need rectification. In his book he writes that he always wanted to be a spy, and that he was told that the best way to achieve that was to get a degree in Law. So what should we look for - Jupiter influencing the 9th house of higher studies?Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Dear Michal, I have chart where person has Sun in 9h in D24 and is studying law. Law is connected to politics, so if You would judge (ethics) then its Jupiter but if You would lead then its Surya. All depends what is on the end. For Putin it was to lead. D1 Lagna is general overall personality while details we see in D24. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Michal Dziwulski sohamsa Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:16 PM Re: Putin's Chart - Rafalji [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Rafal,Can you please clarify why his studying law is connected to his charachter through the Sun and Mercury. Isn't the strong influence of Mars and Jupiter on the 4th house of education indicative of a law. Sun shows political association rather than law does it not?Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Sharat, Wladimir Putin October 7, 1952Time: 9:30:00Time Zone: 5:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 30 E 15' 00", 59 N 53' 00" He studied law which is very connecte to his character as Sun is in D1 and D9 with mahapurusa Yoga in Rasichart. Here the tenth lord is forming simhasana yoga with Surya which is also surya lord giving very strong raja yoga as buddha is vargotam (very good speaking at english and german and like sport) and atmakaraka. what is sumarizing this yoga is presence of 5L - Sani which gives maharaja yoga and also raja yoga with tenth lord. As A10 is there its full. In year 85 and 90 he had job (6H) connected to spies (aq lords rahu) on territory of enemy (6H) and it was invigilation. We see that Rahu is in fifth bhava which gives mind connected and able to invigilate as it is GK it will be His enemy. In 96 his political career started as it is seventh bhava (door) and kendra to Surya/L and AL aspected by Rajayoga and Mahapurusa Yoga with a10. In antardasa of Gemini (next dual sign which has the same yogas on head) he became premier. And in cn dasa (5 from MD) and lord in ninth bhava exalted - he became head of country. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Sharat sohamsa Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:58 PM Re: Planet conjunctions and parivartan Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Thanks for your help. Please can I have Putin's details so I can study his chart. Regards, Sharat - Rafal Gendarz sohamsa Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:22 PM Re: Planet conjunctions and parivartan hraum namah adityaya Dear Sharat. Commentsbelow Regards Rafal Gendarz - Sharat sohamsa Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:27 PM Planet conjunctions and parivartan Om Gurave Namah Dear learned members, I seek query regarding the following: 1. If there is parivartan between benefic lagnesh and malefic trine lord, their effects will be felt in each other's mahadasa or antar dasa or both. Will the focus of change begin from the Lagan or the Lagnesh? [rafal] if parivartana is in d9 then the dasa are exchanging the effects else not. in d1 we see transformation from one state to the other, if this involved al,l or lagnesh then we are transforming. malefic trine lord have the quality of karaka=jupiter, so it can give damage for good things or through harsh things..in Putin's chart there is simhasana yoga with 5L in Lagna with Mahapurusa but they are saturn and surya so throught dethrowment and authoritatve ways he win the ellection. as rahu is aspecting mahapurusa from 95 to 00 in aq-md (padakrama dasa) he was involved in spy-projects (germany). beside topic: in dual signs he get raja yoga (kendra to su/l/al) and aspected by raja yoga and mahapurusa. 2.What happens if the Lagnesh is in conjuction with other planet(s)? Which maha or antar dasa will effect it and which sequence? Will it be first' privartan' planet and then conjunct planet or vice versa? [rafal] the effects you can read in classics ( i think phaldeepika). if you want to see which MD / AD then you must use the same system as in the Maraka's. First divide longevity for three parts and see..yogas in 2,4,8,10 are having fructification in first period..you can use Naisargika Dasa with it. 3..Lastly, in conjunction of planets, is Surya taken as benefic or malefic? [rafal] surya is malefic except dharma & = marriage. Thanks, Regards, Sharat Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Dear Michal, Off course I use some parts of this article about jury in my own Shastyamsa article. It should be clear that Jupiter in D10 with mangal influence and sixth house stronger gives lawyer and such personalities. MY point was however about Rasi. Like ninth lord in Lagna or fifth lord in Lagna gives interest about social things its very general. I have chart of Lawyer from Poland and she has also Surya exalted in Lagna which generally gives what Luminaries gives..social activities. Once a while Sanjay wrote a mail where he stated that in D10 luminaries in arthatrikona gives social work. Planets in D1 show something else than in D9 and D10. For example Jupiter, Venus and Moon in d9 trikona shows writer, Sani in D10 can give teacher, Venus in 11 from VL gives intelectual work, Surya in D9 tenth bhava gives Mercurial skills. So I agree with Your points about difference between politics studies (Surya) and Law (Jupiter) however Surya in lagna or kona, or connected to AL will give general interest in society/law/politics which can guide a person towards lawyer studies and occupation. So my conclusion is that in every scheme we treat grahas and lordship differently. Regards Rafal Gendarz sohamsa , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote: > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Rafal, > > Where did you learn that for Law you can see Surya? Do you have a classical reference? In the 2005 Oct-Dec issue of the Jyotish Digest Sanjay wrote an article with many examples of Lawyers and their D10 charts and D24 charts citing Jupiter as the Karaka for Law. There is no mention of Sun. Please provide some example charts for the purpose of learning. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > hraum namah adityaya > Dear Michal, > I mean that Law is connected to politics therefore Surya can indicate the same. Its not question of person's motivation but its the substance of subject what is important. So Jupiter I would like to see for philosophy, history etc while for Law I can see Surya..I didnt looked at Putin-D24. > His passion is seen from 7L - Rahu.. > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > - > Michal Dziwulski > sohamsa > Friday, December 01, 2006 8:05 PM > Re: Putin's Chart - Rafalji > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Rafal, > > Please can we see the chart. There must be some connection of Jupiter there for the person to be studying law. Just because they want to become a politician after studying law, doesn't mean that Surya can become karaka for any subject. What if someone was studying business but had aspirations of becoming President? Then surely we would expect to see Mercury there indicating study of business. > > How to see that Putin studied Law from his Siddhamsa? The chart may need rectification. In his book he writes that he always wanted to be a spy, and that he was told that the best way to achieve that was to get a degree in Law. So what should we look for - Jupiter influencing the 9th house of higher studies? > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > Dear Michal, > I have chart where person has Sun in 9h in D24 and is studying law. Law is connected to politics, > so if You would judge (ethics) then its Jupiter but if You would lead then its Surya. All depends what is on the end. > For Putin it was to lead. > > D1 Lagna is general overall personality while details we see in D24. > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > ----- Original Message ----- > Michal Dziwulski > sohamsa > Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:16 PM > Re: Putin's Chart - Rafalji > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Rafal, > > Can you please clarify why his studying law is connected to his charachter through the Sun and Mercury. Isn't the strong influence of Mars and Jupiter on the 4th house of education indicative of a law. Sun shows political association rather than law does it not? > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > hraum namah adityaya > Dear Sharat, > > Wladimir Putin > October 7, 1952 > Time: 9:30:00 > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 30 E 15' 00 " , 59 N 53' 00 " > > > > He studied law which is very connecte to his character as Sun is in D1 and D9 with mahapurusa Yoga in Rasichart. Here the tenth lord is forming simhasana yoga with Surya which is also surya lord giving very strong raja yoga as buddha is vargotam (very good speaking at english and german and like sport) and atmakaraka. what is sumarizing this yoga is presence of 5L - Sani which gives maharaja yoga and also raja yoga with tenth lord. As A10 is there its full. > > In year 85 and 90 he had job (6H) connected to spies (aq lords rahu) on territory of enemy (6H) and it was invigilation. We see that Rahu is in fifth bhava which gives mind connected and able to invigilate as it is GK it will be His enemy. > > In 96 his political career started as it is seventh bhava (door) and kendra to Surya/L and AL aspected by Rajayoga and Mahapurusa Yoga with a10. In antardasa of Gemini (next dual sign which has the same yogas on head) he became premier. And in cn dasa (5 from MD) and lord in ninth bhava exalted - he became head of country. > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Sharat > sohamsa > Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:58 PM > Re: Planet conjunctions and parivartan > > > > Om Gurave Namah > Dear Rafal, > > Thanks for your help. > Please can I have Putin's details so I can study his chart. > > Regards, > Sharat > > ----- Original Message ----- > Rafal Gendarz > sohamsa > Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:22 PM > Re: Planet conjunctions and parivartan > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > Dear Sharat. > Commentsbelow > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > ----- Original Message - ---- > Sharat > To: sohamsa > Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:27 PM > Planet conjunctions and parivartan > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear learned members, > > I seek query regarding the following: > > 1. If there is parivartan between benefic lagnesh and malefic trine lord, their effects will be felt in each other's mahadasa or antar dasa or both. Will the focus of change begin from the Lagan or the Lagnesh? > > [rafal] if parivartana is in d9 then the dasa are exchanging the effects else not. in d1 we see transformation from one state to the other, if this involved al,l or lagnesh then we are transforming. malefic trine lord have the quality of karaka=jupiter, so it can give damage for good things or through harsh things..in Putin's chart there is simhasana yoga with 5L in Lagna with Mahapurusa but they are saturn and surya so throught dethrowment and authoritatve ways he win the ellection. as rahu is aspecting mahapurusa from 95 to 00 in aq-md (padakrama dasa) he was involved in spy-projects (germany). beside topic: in dual signs he get raja yoga (kendra to su/l/al) and aspected by raja yoga and mahapurusa. > > 2.What happens if the Lagnesh is in conjuction with other planet(s)? Which maha or antar dasa will effect it and which sequence? Will it be first' privartan' planet and then conjunct planet or vice versa? > > [rafal] the effects you can read in classics ( i think phaldeepika). if you want to see which MD / AD then you must use the same system as in the Maraka's. First divide longevity for three parts and see..yogas in 2,4,8,10 are having fructification in first period..you can use Naisargika Dasa with it. > > 3..Lastly, in conjunction of planets, is Surya taken as benefic or malefic? > [rafal] surya is malefic except dharma & = marriage. > > > Thanks, > > Regards, > > Sharat > > > > > > Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to- Phone call rates. > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 Dear Michal, I have chart where person has Sun in 9h in D24 and is studying law. Law is connected to politics, so if You would judge (ethics) then its Jupiter but if You would lead then its Surya. All depends what is on the end. For Putin it was to lead. D1 Lagna is general overall personality while details we see in D24. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Michal Dziwulski sohamsa Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:16 PM Re: Putin's Chart - Rafalji [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Rafal,Can you please clarify why his studying law is connected to his charachter through the Sun and Mercury. Isn't the strong influence of Mars and Jupiter on the 4th house of education indicative of a law. Sun shows political association rather than law does it not?Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Sharat, Wladimir Putin October 7, 1952Time: 9:30:00Time Zone: 5:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 30 E 15' 00", 59 N 53' 00" He studied law which is very connecte to his character as Sun is in D1 and D9 with mahapurusa Yoga in Rasichart. Here the tenth lord is forming simhasana yoga with Surya which is also surya lord giving very strong raja yoga as buddha is vargotam (very good speaking at english and german and like sport) and atmakaraka. what is sumarizing this yoga is presence of 5L - Sani which gives maharaja yoga and also raja yoga with tenth lord. As A10 is there its full. In year 85 and 90 he had job (6H) connected to spies (aq lords rahu) on territory of enemy (6H) and it was invigilation. We see that Rahu is in fifth bhava which gives mind connected and able to invigilate as it is GK it will be His enemy. In 96 his political career started as it is seventh bhava (door) and kendra to Surya/L and AL aspected by Rajayoga and Mahapurusa Yoga with a10. In antardasa of Gemini (next dual sign which has the same yogas on head) he became premier. And in cn dasa (5 from MD) and lord in ninth bhava exalted - he became head of country. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Sharat sohamsa Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:58 PM Re: Planet conjunctions and parivartan Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Thanks for your help. Please can I have Putin's details so I can study his chart. Regards, Sharat - Rafal Gendarz sohamsa Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:22 PM Re: Planet conjunctions and parivartan hraum namah adityaya Dear Sharat. Commentsbelow Regards Rafal Gendarz - Sharat sohamsa Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:27 PM Planet conjunctions and parivartan Om Gurave Namah Dear learned members, I seek query regarding the following: 1. If there is parivartan between benefic lagnesh and malefic trine lord, their effects will be felt in each other's mahadasa or antar dasa or both. Will the focus of change begin from the Lagan or the Lagnesh? [rafal] if parivartana is in d9 then the dasa are exchanging the effects else not. in d1 we see transformation from one state to the other, if this involved al,l or lagnesh then we are transforming. malefic trine lord have the quality of karaka=jupiter, so it can give damage for good things or through harsh things..in Putin's chart there is simhasana yoga with 5L in Lagna with Mahapurusa but they are saturn and surya so throught dethrowment and authoritatve ways he win the ellection. as rahu is aspecting mahapurusa from 95 to 00 in aq-md (padakrama dasa) he was involved in spy-projects (germany). beside topic: in dual signs he get raja yoga (kendra to su/l/al) and aspected by raja yoga and mahapurusa. 2.What happens if the Lagnesh is in conjuction with other planet(s)? Which maha or antar dasa will effect it and which sequence? Will it be first' privartan' planet and then conjunct planet or vice versa? [rafal] the effects you can read in classics ( i think phaldeepika). if you want to see which MD / AD then you must use the same system as in the Maraka's. First divide longevity for three parts and see..yogas in 2,4,8,10 are having fructification in first period..you can use Naisargika Dasa with it. 3..Lastly, in conjunction of planets, is Surya taken as benefic or malefic? [rafal] surya is malefic except dharma & = marriage. Thanks, Regards, Sharat Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 hraum namah adityaya Dear Michal, I mean that Law is connected to politics therefore Surya can indicate the same. Its not question of person's motivation but its the substance of subject what is important. So Jupiter I would like to see for philosophy, history etc while for Law I can see Surya..I didnt looked at Putin-D24. His passion is seen from 7L - Rahu.. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Michal Dziwulski sohamsa Friday, December 01, 2006 8:05 PM Re: Putin's Chart - Rafalji [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Rafal,Please can we see the chart. There must be some connection of Jupiter there for the person to be studying law. Just because they want to become a politician after studying law, doesn't mean that Surya can become karaka for any subject. What if someone was studying business but had aspirations of becoming President? Then surely we would expect to see Mercury there indicating study of business.How to see that Putin studied Law from his Siddhamsa? The chart may need rectification. In his book he writes that he always wanted to be a spy, and that he was told that the best way to achieve that was to get a degree in Law. So what should we look for - Jupiter influencing the 9th house of higher studies?Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Dear Michal, I have chart where person has Sun in 9h in D24 and is studying law. Law is connected to politics, so if You would judge (ethics) then its Jupiter but if You would lead then its Surya. All depends what is on the end. For Putin it was to lead. D1 Lagna is general overall personality while details we see in D24. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Michal Dziwulski sohamsa Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:16 PM Re: Putin's Chart - Rafalji [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Rafal,Can you please clarify why his studying law is connected to his charachter through the Sun and Mercury. Isn't the strong influence of Mars and Jupiter on the 4th house of education indicative of a law. Sun shows political association rather than law does it not?Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Sharat, Wladimir Putin October 7, 1952Time: 9:30:00Time Zone: 5:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 30 E 15' 00", 59 N 53' 00" He studied law which is very connecte to his character as Sun is in D1 and D9 with mahapurusa Yoga in Rasichart. Here the tenth lord is forming simhasana yoga with Surya which is also surya lord giving very strong raja yoga as buddha is vargotam (very good speaking at english and german and like sport) and atmakaraka. what is sumarizing this yoga is presence of 5L - Sani which gives maharaja yoga and also raja yoga with tenth lord. As A10 is there its full. In year 85 and 90 he had job (6H) connected to spies (aq lords rahu) on territory of enemy (6H) and it was invigilation. We see that Rahu is in fifth bhava which gives mind connected and able to invigilate as it is GK it will be His enemy. In 96 his political career started as it is seventh bhava (door) and kendra to Surya/L and AL aspected by Rajayoga and Mahapurusa Yoga with a10. In antardasa of Gemini (next dual sign which has the same yogas on head) he became premier. And in cn dasa (5 from MD) and lord in ninth bhava exalted - he became head of country. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Sharat sohamsa Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:58 PM Re: Planet conjunctions and parivartan Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Thanks for your help. Please can I have Putin's details so I can study his chart. Regards, Sharat - Rafal Gendarz sohamsa Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:22 PM Re: Planet conjunctions and parivartan hraum namah adityaya Dear Sharat. Commentsbelow Regards Rafal Gendarz - Sharat sohamsa Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:27 PM Planet conjunctions and parivartan Om Gurave Namah Dear learned members, I seek query regarding the following: 1. If there is parivartan between benefic lagnesh and malefic trine lord, their effects will be felt in each other's mahadasa or antar dasa or both. Will the focus of change begin from the Lagan or the Lagnesh? [rafal] if parivartana is in d9 then the dasa are exchanging the effects else not. in d1 we see transformation from one state to the other, if this involved al,l or lagnesh then we are transforming. malefic trine lord have the quality of karaka=jupiter, so it can give damage for good things or through harsh things..in Putin's chart there is simhasana yoga with 5L in Lagna with Mahapurusa but they are saturn and surya so throught dethrowment and authoritatve ways he win the ellection. as rahu is aspecting mahapurusa from 95 to 00 in aq-md (padakrama dasa) he was involved in spy-projects (germany). beside topic: in dual signs he get raja yoga (kendra to su/l/al) and aspected by raja yoga and mahapurusa. 2.What happens if the Lagnesh is in conjuction with other planet(s)? Which maha or antar dasa will effect it and which sequence? Will it be first' privartan' planet and then conjunct planet or vice versa? [rafal] the effects you can read in classics ( i think phaldeepika). if you want to see which MD / AD then you must use the same system as in the Maraka's. First divide longevity for three parts and see..yogas in 2,4,8,10 are having fructification in first period..you can use Naisargika Dasa with it. 3..Lastly, in conjunction of planets, is Surya taken as benefic or malefic? [rafal] surya is malefic except dharma & = marriage. Thanks, Regards, Sharat Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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