Charts of a child

November 5, 2006

Respected Guruji,

Sadar Charan sparsh! I have following your work through the webisite

& is greatly impressed with your findings & the help which you & your

esteemed group is providing to people. I am myself attached to vedic

astrology sice last two year & have been doing a lot of

research.Recently I have gone through a very strange chart & would

welcome yours & others comment & views on the same. The deatils of

the same are given below :

Date of Birth : 17-June-2000

Time of the Birth : 00.20 AM

Place of Birth : Kolkata

The Child is born in `Abhookta Moola' Dasha & according to astrology

is dangerous for his father. I have read that even Goswami Tulsidas

was also born under the same dosha & was abondoned by his father! Now

I want to know your views on this. Please reply as soon as possible.

Thank You,

Sadar Pranam,

Santosh

November 6, 2006

:: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Santosh,Jiddu Krishnamurti was born with Moon in the first degrees of Moola nakshatra. He was seperated from his Father from a very early age, and there were many law suits and disputes over this. Here are the birth details:May 12th, 1985, 0:23:29, 78E30 - 13N33 (5:30)For the chart you have given, I cannot offer much, but one observation is that Sun is in the 12th from the Arudha Lagna which can indicate that the Father will not see the person's rise in life.Another point is that in the Dwadasamsa the 9th lord Mars is placed in Lagna (Leo), which would make the Father a prominent person. Is this the case?Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::santosh1903 <santosh1903 wrote: Respected Guruji, Sadar Charan sparsh! I have following your work through the webisite & is greatly impressed with your findings & the help which you & your esteemed group is providing to people. I am myself attached to vedic astrology sice last two year & have been doing a lot of research.Recently I have gone through a very strange chart & would welcome yours & others comment & views on the same. The deatils of the same are given below : Date of Birth : 17-June-2000 Time of the Birth : 00.20 AM Place of Birth : Kolkata The Child is born in `Abhookta Moola' Dasha & according to astrology is

dangerous for his father. I have read that even Goswami Tulsidas was also born under the same dosha & was abondoned by his father! Now I want to know your views on this. Please reply as soon as possible. Thank You, Sadar Pranam, Santosh

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November 6, 2006

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Michal,

Jiddu Krishnamurti (like Sri Rama) is example of Sun in Arudha lagna in exaltation which make Him seperate 10yrs after birth from mother.

He was not born in 1985.

Page 289 of Jyotish Fundamentals.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Michal Dziwulski

sohamsa

Monday, November 06, 2006 8:37 AM

Re: Charts of a child

:: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Santosh,Jiddu Krishnamurti was born with Moon in the first degrees of Moola nakshatra. He was seperated from his Father from a very early age, and there were many law suits and disputes over this. Here are the birth details:May 12th, 1985, 0:23:29, 78E30 - 13N33 (5:30)For the chart you have given, I cannot offer much, but one observation is that Sun is in the 12th from the Arudha Lagna which can indicate that the Father will not see the person's rise in life.Another point is that in the Dwadasamsa the 9th lord Mars is placed in Lagna (Leo), which would make the Father a prominent person. Is this the case?Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::santosh1903 <santosh1903 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Respected Guruji, Sadar Charan sparsh! I have following your work through the webisite & is greatly impressed with your findings & the help which you & your esteemed group is providing to people. I am myself attached to vedic astrology sice last two year & have been doing a lot of research.Recently I have gone through a very strange chart & would welcome yours & others comment & views on the same. The deatils of the same are given below :Date of Birth : 17-June-2000Time of the Birth : 00.20 AMPlace of Birth : KolkataThe Child is born in `Abhookta Moola' Dasha & according to astrology is dangerous for his father. I have read that even Goswami Tulsidas was also born under the same dosha & was abondoned by his father! Now I want to know your views on this. Please reply as soon as possible.Thank You,Sadar Pranam,Santosh

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November 6, 2006

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Santhosh, As you wrote,the child is born in Abhukta Moola Nakshatra.Moola Nakshatra when divided into 15 parts each of 53'20", the 1st part falls between 0 Degs. and 0 Deg.53'20".So as per this,father of this native should not see the face of the father till 9 years or otherwise it indicates hardhips equivalent to death to the father.Here Chandra is in Dhanu 0 Degs.24'2.70" which is under the 1st part. Lagna is Meena with Chandra in 10th house aspected by 6th lord Surya,2nd and 9th lord Kuja and 4th and 7th lord Budha,3rd and 8th lord Shukra.Here both Kuja and Shukra are combust.The life saver Guru is in 3rd from Lagna,6th from Chandra ,8th from the 9th and 12th from Pitru Karaka Surya.Surya is in

Mrigashira ruled by Kuja who is 2nd and 9th lord.In the Navamsha chart, Pitru Karaka Surya is debilitated indicating troubles to father.But there is only one factor I found is Guru aspecting 9th house from Lagna.So father has to be away for 9 years as 9th house is aspected by Guru eventhough 9th lord Kuja is not aspected by Guru. I hope this helps. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.santosh1903 <santosh1903 wrote: Respected Guruji, Sadar Charan sparsh! I have following your work through the webisite & is greatly impressed with your findings & the help which you & your esteemed group is providing to people. I am myself attached to vedic astrology sice last two year & have been doing a lot of research.Recently I have gone through a very strange chart & would welcome yours & others comment & views on the same. The deatils of the same are given below :Date of Birth : 17-June-2000Time of the Birth : 00.20 AMPlace of Birth : KolkataThe Child is born in `Abhookta Moola' Dasha & according to astrology is dangerous for his father. I have read that even Goswami Tulsidas was also born under the same dosha & was abondoned by his father! Now I want to know your views on this. Please reply as soon as possible.Thank

You,Sadar Pranam,Santosh

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November 6, 2006

:: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Rafal,Sorry, that was a typo - it was meant to read 1885.I too have the Sun exalted in Arudha Lagna, and I was seperated from my Father as per the dictum, at around about ten years of age (after birth from Mother).My younger sister does not have this combination however, nor Abhookta Moola dosa, yet she has not seen her father since the age of six. Here are her details: July 20th 1985, 1:59am, Auckland, New Zealand.Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Michal, Jiddu Krishnamurti (like Sri Rama) is example of Sun in Arudha lagna in exaltation which make Him seperate 10yrs after birth from mother. He was not born in 1985. Page 289 of Jyotish Fundamentals. Regards Rafal Gendarz -

Michal Dziwulski sohamsa Monday,

November 06, 2006 8:37 AM Re: Charts of a child :: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Santosh,Jiddu Krishnamurti was born with Moon in the first degrees of Moola nakshatra. He was seperated from his Father from a very early age, and there were many law suits and disputes over this. Here are the birth details:May 12th, 1985, 0:23:29, 78E30 - 13N33 (5:30)For the chart you have given, I cannot offer much, but one observation is that Sun is in the 12th from the Arudha Lagna which can indicate that the Father will not see the person's rise in life.Another point is that in the Dwadasamsa the 9th lord Mars is placed in Lagna (Leo), which would make the

Father a prominent person. Is this the case?Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::santosh1903 <santosh1903 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Respected Guruji, Sadar Charan sparsh! I have following your work through the webisite & is greatly impressed with your findings & the help which you & your esteemed group is providing to people. I am myself attached to vedic astrology sice last two year & have been doing a lot of research.Recently I have gone through a very strange chart & would welcome yours & others comment & views on the same. The deatils of the same are given below :Date of Birth : 17-June-2000Time of the Birth : 00.20 AMPlace of Birth : KolkataThe Child is born in `Abhookta Moola' Dasha & according to astrology is dangerous for his father. I have read that even Goswami Tulsidas was also born under the same dosha & was abondoned by his father! Now I want to know your views on this. Please reply as soon as possible.Thank You,Sadar Pranam,Santosh Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail.

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November 6, 2006

Dear Michal,

Yes, PiK and 9L from Surya is in 7 from AK Mercury and Ma-Lagnesh.

Here also the PiK is in bad sambandha with AK and situation is the same/similar.

November 4, 1986Time: 21:04:12Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 19 E 55' 00", 50 N 05' 00"

May 24, 1984Time: 22:39:49Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 18 E 38' 10", 50 N 24' 10"

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Michal Dziwulski

sohamsa

Monday, November 06, 2006 8:54 PM

Re: Charts of a child

:: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Rafal,Sorry, that was a typo - it was meant to read 1885.I too have the Sun exalted in Arudha Lagna, and I was seperated from my Father as per the dictum, at around about ten years of age (after birth from Mother).My younger sister does not have this combination however, nor Abhookta Moola dosa, yet she has not seen her father since the age of six. Here are her details: July 20th 1985, 1:59am, Auckland, New Zealand.Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Michal,

Jiddu Krishnamurti (like Sri Rama) is example of Sun in Arudha lagna in exaltation which make Him seperate 10yrs after birth from mother.

He was not born in 1985.

Page 289 of Jyotish Fundamentals.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Michal Dziwulski

sohamsa

Monday, November 06, 2006 8:37 AM

Re: Charts of a child

:: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Santosh,Jiddu Krishnamurti was born with Moon in the first degrees of Moola nakshatra. He was seperated from his Father from a very early age, and there were many law suits and disputes over this. Here are the birth details:May 12th, 1985, 0:23:29, 78E30 - 13N33 (5:30)For the chart you have given, I cannot offer much, but one observation is that Sun is in the 12th from the Arudha Lagna which can indicate that the Father will not see the person's rise in life.Another point is that in the Dwadasamsa the 9th lord Mars is placed in Lagna (Leo), which would make the Father a prominent person. Is this the case?Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::santosh1903 <santosh1903 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Respected Guruji, Sadar Charan sparsh! I have following your work through the webisite & is greatly impressed with your findings & the help which you & your esteemed group is providing to people. I am myself attached to vedic astrology sice last two year & have been doing a lot of research.Recently I have gone through a very strange chart & would welcome yours & others comment & views on the same. The deatils of the same are given below :Date of Birth : 17-June-2000Time of the Birth : 00.20 AMPlace of Birth : KolkataThe Child is born in `Abhookta Moola' Dasha & according to astrology is dangerous for his father. I have read that even Goswami Tulsidas was also born under the same dosha & was abondoned by his father! Now I want to know your views on this. Please reply as soon as possible.Thank You,Sadar Pranam,Santosh

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November 7, 2006

Respected friends,

Thank you all for taking troubles to provide me with valueable insights

into the `abhookta Moola dosha'. I would like to add here that the

father was advised by a priest to not to see the boy for 31 days &

thereafter perform A mula shaanti puja & then see the boy, which was

done as per vedic ritual by boys father. The priest had also said that

the boy was born in tamba paaya & when the mula was in patal loka so

the boy should do good in life, only that he will be problemsome for

his father. He also said that the boy possess lakshmi yoga!

Please confirm how true is all this reading of his?

Regards & pranam,

Santosh.

November 7, 2006

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Rafal,So you are saying that AK and PiK sambandha is bad. Why do you use 7th house as Marana Karaka Sthana for Mercury? Why not in the 4th house? Why are planets in the 7th house from Mars (as Lagnesha) bad?In the 2nd chart Pik Mercury is in Marana Karaka Sthana from Atmakarka Mars ie. it is in the 7th house from Mars. So this combination will be bad for the relationship with Father.In the 1st chart however PiK Sun is in the 12th house from the Atmakaraka Moon, whose Marana Karaka Sthana is the 8th house. Why does the Moon have an aversion to planets placed in the 12th from it?Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Dear Michal, Yes, PiK and 9L from Surya is in 7 from AK Mercury and Ma-Lagnesh. Here also the PiK is in bad sambandha with AK and situation is the same/similar. November 4, 1986Time: 21:04:12Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 19 E 55' 00", 50 N 05' 00" May 24, 1984Time: 22:39:49Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 18 E 38' 10", 50 N 24' 10" Regards Rafal Gendarz - Michal Dziwulski sohamsa Monday, November 06, 2006 8:54 PM Re: Charts of a child :: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Rafal,Sorry, that was a typo - it was meant to read 1885.I too have the Sun exalted in Arudha Lagna, and I was seperated from my

Father as per the dictum, at around about ten years of age (after birth from Mother).My younger sister does not have this combination however, nor Abhookta Moola dosa, yet she has not seen her father since the age of six. Here are her details: July 20th 1985, 1:59am, Auckland, New Zealand.Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Michal, Jiddu Krishnamurti (like Sri Rama) is example of Sun in Arudha lagna in exaltation which make Him seperate 10yrs after birth from mother. He was

not born in 1985. Page 289 of Jyotish Fundamentals. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Michal Dziwulski sohamsa Monday, November 06, 2006 8:37 AM Re: Charts of a child :: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Santosh,Jiddu Krishnamurti was born with Moon in the first degrees of Moola nakshatra. He was seperated from his Father from a very early age, and there were many law suits and disputes over this. Here are the birth

details:May 12th, 1985, 0:23:29, 78E30 - 13N33 (5:30)For the chart you have given, I cannot offer much, but one observation is that Sun is in the 12th from the Arudha Lagna which can indicate that the Father will not see the person's rise in life.Another point is that in the Dwadasamsa the 9th lord Mars is placed in Lagna (Leo), which would make the Father a prominent person. Is this the case?Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::santosh1903 <santosh1903 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Respected Guruji, Sadar Charan sparsh! I have following your work through the webisite & is greatly impressed with your findings & the help which you & your

esteemed group is providing to people. I am myself attached to vedic astrology sice last two year & have been doing a lot of research.Recently I have gone through a very strange chart & would welcome yours & others comment & views on the same. The deatils of the same are given below :Date of Birth : 17-June-2000Time of the Birth : 00.20 AMPlace of Birth : KolkataThe Child is born in `Abhookta Moola' Dasha & according to astrology is dangerous for his father. I have read that even Goswami Tulsidas was also born under the same dosha & was abondoned by his father! Now I want to know your views on this. Please reply as soon as possible.Thank You,Sadar Pranam,Santosh Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail. Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

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November 7, 2006

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Michal,

Comments below.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Michal Dziwulski

sohamsa

Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:38 AM

Re: Charts of a child

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Rafal,So you are saying that AK and PiK sambandha is bad. Why do you use 7th house as Marana Karaka Sthana for Mercury? Why not in the 4th house? Why are planets in the 7th house from Mars (as Lagnesha) bad?

[rafal] There are two marana karaka sthana's to buddha [two marakas to Gemini and Virgo in natural zodiac]. One is forth bhava and one is seventh bhava. Therefore buddha in forth in D10 is so bad because its in MKS to Karyabhava and Dasamsa Lagna. You can use MKS and Pachakadi everywhere as long as You know what You are doing..Jataka Parijata says seventh placement is bad for buddha and mangal and call it Marana Karaka Sthana. 2) we use Lagnesh to see how person is feeling with event. In the 2nd chart Pik Mercury is in Marana Karaka Sthana from Atmakarka Mars ie. it is in the 7th house from Mars. So this combination will be bad for the relationship with Father.

[rafal] This can mean many things but must be confirmed with other points. Like bad combination with DK & 7L or Ve can mean that You will not see Your partners at all. Complete denial.

In the 1st chart however PiK Sun is in the 12th house from the Atmakaraka Moon, whose Marana Karaka Sthana is the 8th house. Why does the Moon have an aversion to planets placed in the 12th from it?

[rafal] The second question is connected more to philosophy and sth what people call mythology. In Charakaraka sambandha we use mainly (1) Marana Karaka sthana and (2) Pachakadi Sambandha. In Pachakadi S. Moon hates all grahas in 12 bhava from Him/Her.

Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

Dear Michal,

Yes, PiK and 9L from Surya is in 7 from AK Mercury and Ma-Lagnesh.

Here also the PiK is in bad sambandha with AK and situation is the same/similar.

November 4, 1986Time: 21:04:12Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 19 E 55' 00", 50 N 05' 00"

May 24, 1984Time: 22:39:49Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 18 E 38' 10", 50 N 24' 10"

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Michal Dziwulski

sohamsa

Monday, November 06, 2006 8:54 PM

Re: Charts of a child

:: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Rafal,Sorry, that was a typo - it was meant to read 1885.I too have the Sun exalted in Arudha Lagna, and I was seperated from my Father as per the dictum, at around about ten years of age (after birth from Mother).My younger sister does not have this combination however, nor Abhookta Moola dosa, yet she has not seen her father since the age of six. Here are her details: July 20th 1985, 1:59am, Auckland, New Zealand.Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Michal,

Jiddu Krishnamurti (like Sri Rama) is example of Sun in Arudha lagna in exaltation which make Him seperate 10yrs after birth from mother.

He was not born in 1985.

Page 289 of Jyotish Fundamentals.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Michal Dziwulski

sohamsa

Monday, November 06, 2006 8:37 AM

Re: Charts of a child

:: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Santosh,Jiddu Krishnamurti was born with Moon in the first degrees of Moola nakshatra. He was seperated from his Father from a very early age, and there were many law suits and disputes over this. Here are the birth details:May 12th, 1985, 0:23:29, 78E30 - 13N33 (5:30)For the chart you have given, I cannot offer much, but one observation is that Sun is in the 12th from the Arudha Lagna which can indicate that the Father will not see the person's rise in life.Another point is that in the Dwadasamsa the 9th lord Mars is placed in Lagna (Leo), which would make the Father a prominent person. Is this the case?Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::santosh1903 <santosh1903 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Respected Guruji, Sadar Charan sparsh! I have following your work through the webisite & is greatly impressed with your findings & the help which you & your esteemed group is providing to people. I am myself attached to vedic astrology sice last two year & have been doing a lot of research.Recently I have gone through a very strange chart & would welcome yours & others comment & views on the same. The deatils of the same are given below :Date of Birth : 17-June-2000Time of the Birth : 00.20 AMPlace of Birth : KolkataThe Child is born in `Abhookta Moola' Dasha & according to astrology is dangerous for his father. I have read that even Goswami Tulsidas was also born under the same dosha & was abondoned by his father! Now I want to know your views on this. Please reply as soon as possible.Thank You,Sadar Pranam,Santosh

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November 7, 2006

:: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Rafal,A couple more questions.1. It is fine that Jataka Parijata says something. But why is Buddha in MKS in 7th house - what is the reasoning behind it. I know that in many classics there can be such statements which can be applied wrongly if one does not have the right understanding of how to use them. For example, Parasara mentions the 7 charakaraka scheme, and some people have gone to use this not knowing it is for Muhurta and not living beings. Still they use it because there it is written. But the reason is not clear. If you know why then please tell me.2. What is Pachakadi Sambandha? I have had a quick look through a couple of books and can't find reference to it.Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Michal, Comments below. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Michal Dziwulski sohamsa Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:38 AM Re: Charts of a child [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Rafal,So you are saying that AK and PiK sambandha is bad. Why do you use 7th house as Marana Karaka Sthana for Mercury? Why not in the 4th house? Why are planets in the 7th house from Mars (as Lagnesha) bad? [rafal]

There are two marana karaka sthana's to buddha [two marakas to Gemini and Virgo in natural zodiac]. One is forth bhava and one is seventh bhava. Therefore buddha in forth in D10 is so bad because its in MKS to Karyabhava and Dasamsa Lagna. You can use MKS and Pachakadi everywhere as long as You know what You are doing..Jataka Parijata says seventh placement is bad for buddha and mangal and call it Marana Karaka Sthana. 2) we use Lagnesh to see how person is feeling with event. In the 2nd chart Pik Mercury is in Marana Karaka Sthana from Atmakarka Mars ie. it is in the 7th house from Mars. So this combination will be bad for the relationship with Father. [rafal] This can mean many things but must be confirmed with

other points. Like bad combination with DK & 7L or Ve can mean that You will not see Your partners at all. Complete denial. In the 1st chart however PiK Sun is in the 12th house from the Atmakaraka Moon, whose Marana Karaka Sthana is the 8th house. Why does the Moon have an aversion to planets placed in the 12th from it? [rafal] The second question is connected more to philosophy and sth what people call mythology. In Charakaraka sambandha we use mainly (1) Marana Karaka sthana and (2) Pachakadi Sambandha. In Pachakadi S. Moon hates all grahas in 12 bhava from Him/Her. Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Dear Michal, Yes, PiK and 9L from Surya is in 7 from AK Mercury and Ma-Lagnesh. Here also the PiK is in bad sambandha with AK and situation is the same/similar. November 4, 1986Time: 21:04:12Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 19 E 55' 00", 50 N 05' 00" May 24, 1984Time: 22:39:49Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 18 E 38' 10", 50 N 24' 10"

Regards Rafal Gendarz - Michal Dziwulski sohamsa Monday, November 06, 2006 8:54 PM Re: Charts of a child :: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Rafal,Sorry, that was a typo - it was meant to read 1885.I too have the Sun exalted in Arudha Lagna, and I was seperated from my Father as per the dictum, at around about ten

years of age (after birth from Mother).My younger sister does not have this combination however, nor Abhookta Moola dosa, yet she has not seen her father since the age of six. Here are her details: July 20th 1985, 1:59am, Auckland, New Zealand.Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Michal, Jiddu Krishnamurti (like Sri Rama) is example of Sun in Arudha lagna in exaltation which make Him seperate 10yrs after birth from mother. He was not born in 1985. Page 289 of Jyotish Fundamentals. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Michal Dziwulski sohamsa Monday, November 06, 2006 8:37 AM Re: Charts of a child :: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Santosh,Jiddu Krishnamurti was born with Moon in the first degrees of Moola nakshatra. He was seperated from his Father from a very early age, and there were many law suits and disputes over this. Here are the birth details:May 12th, 1985, 0:23:29, 78E30 - 13N33 (5:30)For the chart you have given, I cannot offer much, but one observation is that Sun is in the 12th from the Arudha Lagna which can indicate that the Father will not see the person's rise in life.Another point is that in the Dwadasamsa the 9th lord Mars is placed in Lagna (Leo), which would make the Father a prominent person. Is this the case?Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::santosh1903 <santosh1903 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Respected Guruji, Sadar Charan sparsh! I

have following your work through the webisite & is greatly impressed with your findings & the help which you & your esteemed group is providing to people. I am myself attached to vedic astrology sice last two year & have been doing a lot of research.Recently I have gone through a very strange chart & would welcome yours & others comment & views on the same. The deatils of the same are given below :Date of Birth : 17-June-2000Time of the Birth : 00.20 AMPlace of Birth : KolkataThe Child is born in `Abhookta Moola' Dasha & according to astrology is dangerous for his father. I have read that even Goswami Tulsidas was also born under the same dosha & was abondoned by his father! Now I want to know your views on this.

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November 7, 2006

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Michal,

Buddha is eunuch and want to have flirt rather than serious relationship, while Sani has digbal there. I use it because my Guruji and Sanjay Ji used to use it.

b) Sarvarha Cintamani is source. also in beginning of COVA they are few words about it.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Michal Dziwulski

sohamsa

Tuesday, November 07, 2006 8:00 PM

Re: Charts of a child

:: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Rafal,A couple more questions.1. It is fine that Jataka Parijata says something. But why is Buddha in MKS in 7th house - what is the reasoning behind it. I know that in many classics there can be such statements which can be applied wrongly if one does not have the right understanding of how to use them. For example, Parasara mentions the 7 charakaraka scheme, and some people have gone to use this not knowing it is for Muhurta and not living beings. Still they use it because there it is written. But the reason is not clear. If you know why then please tell me.2. What is Pachakadi Sambandha? I have had a quick look through a couple of books and can't find reference to it.Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Michal,

Comments below.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Michal Dziwulski

sohamsa

Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:38 AM

Re: Charts of a child

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Rafal,So you are saying that AK and PiK sambandha is bad. Why do you use 7th house as Marana Karaka Sthana for Mercury? Why not in the 4th house? Why are planets in the 7th house from Mars (as Lagnesha) bad?

[rafal] There are two marana karaka sthana's to buddha [two marakas to Gemini and Virgo in natural zodiac]. One is forth bhava and one is seventh bhava. Therefore buddha in forth in D10 is so bad because its in MKS to Karyabhava and Dasamsa Lagna. You can use MKS and Pachakadi everywhere as long as You know what You are doing..Jataka Parijata says seventh placement is bad for buddha and mangal and call it Marana Karaka Sthana. 2) we use Lagnesh to see how person is feeling with event. In the 2nd chart Pik Mercury is in Marana Karaka Sthana from Atmakarka Mars ie. it is in the 7th house from Mars. So this combination will be bad for the relationship with Father.

[rafal] This can mean many things but must be confirmed with other points. Like bad combination with DK & 7L or Ve can mean that You will not see Your partners at all. Complete denial.

In the 1st chart however PiK Sun is in the 12th house from the Atmakaraka Moon, whose Marana Karaka Sthana is the 8th house. Why does the Moon have an aversion to planets placed in the 12th from it?

[rafal] The second question is connected more to philosophy and sth what people call mythology. In Charakaraka sambandha we use mainly (1) Marana Karaka sthana and (2) Pachakadi Sambandha. In Pachakadi S. Moon hates all grahas in 12 bhava from Him/Her.

Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

Dear Michal,

Yes, PiK and 9L from Surya is in 7 from AK Mercury and Ma-Lagnesh.

Here also the PiK is in bad sambandha with AK and situation is the same/similar.

November 4, 1986Time: 21:04:12Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 19 E 55' 00", 50 N 05' 00"

May 24, 1984Time: 22:39:49Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 18 E 38' 10", 50 N 24' 10"

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Michal Dziwulski

sohamsa

Monday, November 06, 2006 8:54 PM

Re: Charts of a child

:: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Rafal,Sorry, that was a typo - it was meant to read 1885.I too have the Sun exalted in Arudha Lagna, and I was seperated from my Father as per the dictum, at around about ten years of age (after birth from Mother).My younger sister does not have this combination however, nor Abhookta Moola dosa, yet she has not seen her father since the age of six. Here are her details: July 20th 1985, 1:59am, Auckland, New Zealand.Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Michal,

Jiddu Krishnamurti (like Sri Rama) is example of Sun in Arudha lagna in exaltation which make Him seperate 10yrs after birth from mother.

He was not born in 1985.

Page 289 of Jyotish Fundamentals.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Michal Dziwulski

sohamsa

Monday, November 06, 2006 8:37 AM

Re: Charts of a child

:: Hare Rama Krsna ::Dear Santosh,Jiddu Krishnamurti was born with Moon in the first degrees of Moola nakshatra. He was seperated from his Father from a very early age, and there were many law suits and disputes over this. Here are the birth details:May 12th, 1985, 0:23:29, 78E30 - 13N33 (5:30)For the chart you have given, I cannot offer much, but one observation is that Sun is in the 12th from the Arudha Lagna which can indicate that the Father will not see the person's rise in life.Another point is that in the Dwadasamsa the 9th lord Mars is placed in Lagna (Leo), which would make the Father a prominent person. Is this the case?Respectfully,Michal:: Om Namo Narayanaya ::santosh1903 <santosh1903 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Respected Guruji, Sadar Charan sparsh! I have following your work through the webisite & is greatly impressed with your findings & the help which you & your esteemed group is providing to people. I am myself attached to vedic astrology sice last two year & have been doing a lot of research.Recently I have gone through a very strange chart & would welcome yours & others comment & views on the same. The deatils of the same are given below :Date of Birth : 17-June-2000Time of the Birth : 00.20 AMPlace of Birth : KolkataThe Child is born in `Abhookta Moola' Dasha & according to astrology is dangerous for his father. I have read that even Goswami Tulsidas was also born under the same dosha & was abondoned by his father! Now I want to know your views on this. Please reply as soon as possible.Thank You,Sadar Pranam,Santosh

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November 7, 2006

|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Dear Michal,

Sorry if I am intruding on your conversation with Rafal. Please let

me share my understanding. Rafal will correct me if I am wrong.

My understanding is that Me is an unstable (chanchal) planet. It

therefore does not do good in the 4th and 7th house. In these

houses, it threatens the stability of home and marriage respectively.

Here is a link to Pachakadi Sambandha in Sanjay Prabhakaran ji's

blogspot.

http://sanjayprabhakaran.blogspot.com/2005/10/pcakdi-sambandha.html

Regards

Supriti

sohamsa , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal

wrote:

>

> :: Hare Rama Krsna ::

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> A couple more questions.

>

> 1. It is fine that Jataka Parijata says something. But why is

Buddha in MKS in 7th house - what is the reasoning behind it. I know

that in many classics there can be such statements which can be

applied wrongly if one does not have the right understanding of how

to use them. For example, Parasara mentions the 7 charakaraka

scheme, and some people have gone to use this not knowing it is for

Muhurta and not living beings. Still they use it because there it is

written. But the reason is not clear. If you know why then please

tell me.

>

> 2. What is Pachakadi Sambandha? I have had a quick look through a

couple of books and can't find reference to it.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> :: Om Namo Narayanaya ::

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

> hraum namah adityaya

> Dear Michal,

> Comments below.

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> Michal Dziwulski

> sohamsa

> Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:38 AM

> Re: Charts of a child

>

> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> So you are saying that AK and PiK sambandha is bad. Why do you

use 7th house as Marana Karaka Sthana for Mercury? Why not in the

4th house? Why are planets in the 7th house from Mars (as

Lagnesha) bad?

> [rafal] There are two marana karaka sthana's to buddha [two

marakas to Gemini and Virgo in natural zodiac]. One is forth bhava

and one is seventh bhava. Therefore buddha in forth in D10 is so

bad because its in MKS to Karyabhava and Dasamsa Lagna. You can

use MKS and Pachakadi everywhere as long as You know what You are

doing..Jataka Parijata says seventh placement is bad for buddha

and mangal and call it Marana Karaka Sthana. 2) we use Lagnesh to

see how person is feeling with event.

>

> In the 2nd chart Pik Mercury is in Marana Karaka Sthana from

Atmakarka Mars ie. it is in the 7th house from Mars. So this

combination will be bad for the relationship with Father.

>

> [rafal] This can mean many things but must be confirmed with

other points. Like bad combination with DK & 7L or Ve can mean

that You will not see Your partners at all. Complete denial.

>

> In the 1st chart however PiK Sun is in the 12th house from the

Atmakaraka Moon, whose Marana Karaka Sthana is the 8th house. Why

does the Moon have an aversion to planets placed in the 12th from

it?

> [rafal] The second question is connected more to philosophy

and sth what people call mythology. In Charakaraka sambandha we

use mainly (1) Marana Karaka sthana and (2) Pachakadi Sambandha.

In Pachakadi S. Moon hates all grahas in 12 bhava from Him/Her.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> Dear Michal,

>

> Yes, PiK and 9L from Surya is in 7 from AK Mercury and Ma-

Lagnesh.

>

> Here also the PiK is in bad sambandha with AK and

situation is the same/similar.

>

> November 4, 1986

> Time: 21:04:12

> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 19 E 55' 00 " , 50 N 05' 00 "

>

> May 24, 1984

> Time: 22:39:49

> Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 18 E 38' 10 " , 50 N 24' 10 "

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> Michal Dziwulski

> sohamsa

> Monday, November 06, 2006 8:54 PM

> Re: Charts of a child

>

> :: Hare Rama Krsna ::

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> Sorry, that was a typo - it was meant to read 1885.

>

> I too have the Sun exalted in Arudha Lagna, and I was

seperated from my Father as per the dictum, at around about

ten years of age (after birth from Mother).

>

> My younger sister does not have this combination however,

nor Abhookta Moola dosa, yet she has not seen her father since

the age of six. Here are her details: July 20th 1985, 1:59am,

Auckland, New Zealand.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> :: Om Namo Narayanaya ::

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> hraum namah adityaya

> Dear Michal,

> Jiddu Krishnamurti (like Sri Rama) is example of

Sun in Arudha lagna in exaltation which make Him seperate

10yrs after birth from mother.

> He was not born in 1985.

> Page 289 of Jyotish Fundamentals.

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> Michal Dziwulski

> sohamsa

> Monday, November 06, 2006 8:37 AM

> Re: Charts of a child

>

> :: Hare Rama Krsna ::

>

> Dear Santosh,

>

> Jiddu Krishnamurti was born with Moon in the first

degrees of Moola nakshatra. He was seperated from his

Father from a very early age, and there were many law

suits and disputes over this. Here are the birth details:

>

> May 12th, 1985, 0:23:29, 78E30 - 13N33 (5:30)

>

> For the chart you have given, I cannot offer much, but

one observation is that Sun is in the 12th from the Arudha Lagna

which can indicate that the Father will not see the

person's rise in life.

> Another point is that in the Dwadasamsa the 9th lord Mars

is placed in Lagna (Leo), which would make the Father a

prominent person. Is this the case?

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> :: Om Namo Narayanaya ::

>

> santosh1903 <santosh1903 wrote:

> Respected Guruji,

>

> Sadar Charan sparsh! I have following your work

through the webisite

> & is greatly impressed with your findings & the help

which you & your

> esteemed group is providing to people. I am myself

attached to vedic

> astrology sice last two year & have been doing a lot

of

> research.Recently I have gone through a very strange chart

& would

> welcome yours & others comment & views on the same.

The deatils of

> the same are given below :

>

> Date of Birth : 17-June-2000

> Time of the Birth : 00.20 AM

> Place of Birth : Kolkata

>

> The Child is born in `Abhookta Moola' Dasha &

according to astrology

> is dangerous for his father. I have read that even

Goswami Tulsidas

> was also born under the same dosha & was abondoned by

his father! Now

> I want to know your views on this. Please reply as

soon as possible.

>

> Thank You,

>

> Sadar Pranam,

> Santosh

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November 7, 2006

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Supriti,Thank you for your explanation. I know of Mercury's relevance to threatening relationships ie. If Moon is influenced by Mercury in the Navamsa then it can give promiscuity. So also, I could extend this same thinking to the 7th house. The way I have understood Marana Karaka Sthana however is death like suffering. For example Venus is karaka for relationships and love, so when placed in the 6th house of celibacy it is killing the natural signification of that planet. However Mercury is karaka for business, so why would it suffer SO much in the 7th house?Also, why would the karaka for children threaten the stability of home? I thought children (Mercury) would bring more stability to the home in the way of more feelings of responsibility for the new parents. What is your experience?Thank you for the link. There is also information about Pachakadi Sambandha in the

Apendix of Narayana Dasa book of Sanjayji. I am clear with most of it, until the last table, where the acting enemies of the Graha's is changing. For Sun the acting enemy is Pachak, for Mars it is Vedhak, for Saturn is Karaka... etc. Why would Saturn be enemical to Jupiter as Karaka who is supposed to be "assisting in the achievement of his objectives"?Sorry for all the questions, but sometimes I feel like I don't know enough.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]supriti108 <supriti108 wrote: |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Dear Michal, Sorry if I am intruding on your conversation with Rafal. Please let me share my understanding. Rafal will correct me if I am wrong. My understanding is that Me is an unstable (chanchal) planet. It therefore does not do good in the 4th and 7th house. In these houses, it threatens the stability of home and marriage respectively. Here is a link to Pachakadi Sambandha in Sanjay Prabhakaran ji's blogspot. http://sanjayprabhakaran.blogspot.com/2005/10/pcakdi-sambandha.html Regards Supriti sohamsa , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote: > > :: Hare Rama Krsna :: > > Dear Rafal, > > A couple more questions.

> > 1. It is fine that Jataka Parijata says something. But why is Buddha in MKS in 7th house - what is the reasoning behind it. I know that in many classics there can be such statements which can be applied wrongly if one does not have the right understanding of how to use them. For example, Parasara mentions the 7 charakaraka scheme, and some people have gone to use this not knowing it is for Muhurta and not living beings. Still they use it because there it is written. But the reason is not clear. If you know why then please tell me. > > 2. What is Pachakadi Sambandha? I have had a quick look through a couple of books and can't find reference to it. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > :: Om Namo Narayanaya :: > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > hraum namah adityaya > Dear

Michal, > Comments below. > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > - > Michal Dziwulski > sohamsa > Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:38 AM > Re: Charts of a child > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Rafal, > > So you are saying that AK and PiK sambandha is bad. Why do you use 7th house as Marana Karaka Sthana for Mercury? Why not in the 4th house? Why are planets in the 7th house from Mars (as Lagnesha) bad? > [rafal] There are two marana karaka sthana's to buddha [two marakas to Gemini and Virgo in natural zodiac]. One is forth bhava and one is seventh bhava. Therefore buddha in forth in D10 is so bad because its in MKS to

Karyabhava and Dasamsa Lagna. You can use MKS and Pachakadi everywhere as long as You know what You are doing..Jataka Parijata says seventh placement is bad for buddha and mangal and call it Marana Karaka Sthana. 2) we use Lagnesh to see how person is feeling with event. > > In the 2nd chart Pik Mercury is in Marana Karaka Sthana from Atmakarka Mars ie. it is in the 7th house from Mars. So this combination will be bad for the relationship with Father. > > [rafal] This can mean many things but must be confirmed with other points. Like bad combination with DK & 7L or Ve can mean that You will not see Your partners at all. Complete denial. > > In the 1st chart however PiK Sun is in the 12th house from the Atmakaraka Moon, whose Marana Karaka Sthana is the 8th house. Why does the Moon have an aversion to planets placed in the 12th from it? > [rafal] The second question is connected more to philosophy and sth what people call mythology. In Charakaraka sambandha we use mainly (1) Marana Karaka sthana and (2) Pachakadi Sambandha. In Pachakadi S. Moon hates all grahas in 12 bhava from Him/Her. > > > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > Dear Michal, > > Yes, PiK and 9L from Surya is in 7 from AK Mercury and Ma- Lagnesh. > > Here also the PiK is in bad sambandha with AK and situation is the same/similar. > > > November 4, 1986 > Time: 21:04:12 > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 19 E

55' 00", 50 N 05' 00" > > > > May 24, 1984 > Time: 22:39:49 > Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 18 E 38' 10", 50 N 24' 10" > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > - > Michal Dziwulski > sohamsa > Monday, November 06, 2006 8:54 PM > Re: Charts of a child > > > :: Hare Rama Krsna :: > > Dear Rafal, > > Sorry, that was a typo - it was meant to read 1885. > > I too have

the Sun exalted in Arudha Lagna, and I was seperated from my Father as per the dictum, at around about ten years of age (after birth from Mother). > > My younger sister does not have this combination however, nor Abhookta Moola dosa, yet she has not seen her father since the age of six. Here are her details: July 20th 1985, 1:59am, Auckland, New Zealand. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > :: Om Namo Narayanaya :: > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > hraum namah adityaya > Dear Michal, > Jiddu Krishnamurti (like Sri Rama) is example of Sun in Arudha lagna in exaltation which make Him seperate 10yrs after birth from mother. > He was not born in 1985. > Page 289 of Jyotish

Fundamentals. > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > - > Michal Dziwulski > sohamsa > Monday, November 06, 2006 8:37 AM > Re: Charts of a child > > > :: Hare Rama Krsna :: > > Dear Santosh, > > Jiddu Krishnamurti was born with Moon in the first degrees of Moola nakshatra. He was seperated from his Father from a very early age, and there were many law suits and disputes over this. Here are the birth details: > > May 12th, 1985, 0:23:29, 78E30 - 13N33 (5:30)

> > For the chart you have given, I cannot offer much, but one observation is that Sun is in the 12th from the Arudha Lagna which can indicate that the Father will not see the person's rise in life. > Another point is that in the Dwadasamsa the 9th lord Mars is placed in Lagna (Leo), which would make the Father a prominent person. Is this the case? > > Respectfully, > Michal > > :: Om Namo Narayanaya :: > > santosh1903 <santosh1903 wrote: > Respected Guruji, > > Sadar Charan sparsh! I have following your work through the webisite > & is greatly impressed with your findings & the help which you & your > esteemed group is providing to people.

I am myself attached to vedic > astrology sice last two year & have been doing a lot of > research.Recently I have gone through a very strange chart & would > welcome yours & others comment & views on the same. The deatils of > the same are given below : > > Date of Birth : 17-June-2000 > Time of the Birth : 00.20 AM > Place of Birth : Kolkata > > The Child is born in `Abhookta Moola' Dasha & according to astrology > is dangerous for his father. I have read that even Goswami Tulsidas > was also born under the same dosha & was abondoned by his father! Now > I want to know your views on this. Please reply as soon as possible. > > Thank You, > >

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November 8, 2006

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

|| Durgaa Saranam ||

Dear Swee-ji,

Pranaam. Your observations are correct. However, for Budha, it is in own sign and gives Mahaapurusha yoga and with Lagnesha Guru sitting there modifies the MKS situation to a great extent. Guru in the 4th gives great learning and this also gives Dharma-karmaadhipaty yoga with Ketu 9th lord conjoining. The idea is that when teacher is sitting in front of the student, he has to study and get good marks and especially if he is very familiar with this subject (being in own rasi).

I consider Budha in the 4th to be MKS only within 16 years of age. Please ask if he was a bit unhappy (only a bit) till his high-school education and had other strong extra-curricular interests.

Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Rafal,> Namaste> > A castrato cannot ever have a relationship, so I guess they can only flirt> > According to my Grandma in the days of yore, these poor serfs (esp. Saturn)> were castrated so that they may serve people like her in the palace; (grrrr)> so they can only but build up their dreams serving in the harem.> > On a more serious note, Mercury takes on the energy of that planet if it> conjoins with another planet. I have a Meena lagna chart here with Mercury> conjoining Jupiter and Ketu in the 4th in Gemini. The man was never a flirt> and as for the sweeping statement on Mercury in Marana in the 4th with the> playful children that Mercury is who does not want to study, he is a cum> laude medalist in agriculture and a business major.> > Love,> Swee> > > On 11/7/06 9:09 PM, "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > Dear Michal,> > Buddha is eunuch and want to have flirt rather than serious relationship,> > while Sani has digbal there. I use it because my Guruji and Sanjay Ji used to> > use it. > > b) Sarvarha Cintamani is source. also in beginning of COVA they are few words> > about it.> > Regards> > Rafal Gendarz> > > >> > >> -> >> > >> Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >> > >> sohamsa > >> > >> Tuesday, November 07, 2006 8:00 PM> >> > >> Re: Charts of a child> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> :: Hare Rama Krsna ::> >> > >> Dear Rafal,> >> > >> A couple more questions.> >> > >> 1. It is fine that Jataka Parijata says something. But why is Buddha in MKS> >> in 7th house - what is the reasoning behind it. I know that in many> >> classics there can be such statements which can be applied wrongly if one> >> does not have the right understanding of how to use them. For example,> >> Parasara mentions the 7 charakaraka scheme, and some people have gone to use> >> this not knowing it is for Muhurta and not living beings. Still they use it> >> because there it is written. But the reason is not clear. If you know why> >> then please tell me.> >> > >> 2. What is Pachakadi Sambandha? I have had a quick look through a couple> >> of books and can't find reference to it.> >> > >> Respectfully,> >> Michal> >> > >> :: Om Namo Narayanaya ::> >> > >> Rafal Gendarz starsuponme wrote:> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> hraum namah adityaya> >>> > >>> Dear Michal,> >>> > >>> Comments below.> >>> > >>> Regards> >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> -> >>>> > >>>> Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >>>> > >>>> sohamsa > >>>> > >>>> Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:38 AM> >>>> > >>>> Re: Charts of a child> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> >>>> > >>>> Dear Rafal,> >>>> > >>>> So you are saying that AK and PiK sambandha is bad. Why do you use 7th> >>>> house as Marana Karaka Sthana for Mercury? Why not in the 4th house? Why> >>>> are planets in the 7th house from Mars (as Lagnesha) bad?> >>>> > >>>> [rafal] There are two marana karaka sthana's to buddha [two marakas to> >>>> Gemini and Virgo in natural zodiac]. One is forth bhava and one is seventh> >>>> bhava. Therefore buddha in forth in D10 is so bad because its in MKS to> >>>> Karyabhava and Dasamsa Lagna. You can use MKS and Pachakadi everywhere as> >>>> long as You know what You are doing..Jataka Parijata says seventh> >>>> placement is bad for buddha and mangal and call it Marana Karaka Sthana.> >>>> 2) we use Lagnesh to see how person is feeling with event.> >>>> > >>>> In the 2nd chart Pik Mercury is in Marana Karaka Sthana from Atmakarka> >>>> Mars ie. it is in the 7th house from Mars. So this combination will be> >>>> bad for the relationship with Father.> >>>> > >>>> [rafal] This can mean many things but must be confirmed with other points.> >>>> Like bad combination with DK & 7L or Ve can mean that You will not see> >>>> Your partners at all. Complete denial.> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> In the 1st chart however PiK Sun is in the 12th house from the Atmakaraka> >>>> Moon, whose Marana Karaka Sthana is the 8th house. Why does the Moon have> >>>> an aversion to planets placed in the 12th from it?> >>>> > >>>> [rafal] The second question is connected more to philosophy and sth what> >>>> people call mythology. In Charakaraka sambandha we use mainly (1) Marana> >>>> Karaka sthana and (2) Pachakadi Sambandha. In Pachakadi S. Moon hates all> >>>> grahas in 12 bhava from Him/Her.> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Respectfully,> >>>> Michal> >>>> > >>>> [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> >>>> > >>>> Rafal Gendarz starsuponme wrote:> >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Michal,> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes, PiK and 9L from Surya is in 7 from AK Mercury and Ma-Lagnesh.> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Here also the PiK is in bad sambandha with AK and situation is the> >>>>> same/similar.> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> November 4, 1986> >>>>> Time: 21:04:12> >>>>> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> >>>>> Place: 19 E 55' 00", 50 N 05' 00"> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> May 24, 1984> >>>>> Time: 22:39:49> >>>>> Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)> >>>>> Place: 18 E 38' 10", 50 N 24' 10"> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards> >>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >>>>>> > >>>>>> sohamsa > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Monday, November 06, 2006 8:54 PM> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Re: Charts of a child> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> :: Hare Rama Krsna ::> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Rafal,> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sorry, that was a typo - it was meant to read 1885.> >>>>>> > >>>>>> I too have the Sun exalted in Arudha Lagna, and I was seperated from my> >>>>>> Father as per the dictum, at around about ten years of age (after birth> >>>>>> from Mother).> >>>>>> > >>>>>> My younger sister does not have this combination however, nor Abhookta> >>>>>> Moola dosa, yet she has not seen her father since the age of six. Here> >>>>>> are her details: July 20th 1985, 1:59am, Auckland, New Zealand.> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Respectfully,> >>>>>> Michal> >>>>>> > >>>>>> :: Om Namo Narayanaya ::> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz starsuponme wrote:> >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> hraum namah adityaya> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Michal,> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Jiddu Krishnamurti (like Sri Rama) is example of Sun in Arudha lagna in> >>>>>>> exaltation which make Him seperate 10yrs after birth from mother.> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> He was not born in 1985.> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Page 289 of Jyotish Fundamentals.> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > -> > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > sohamsa > > Monday, November 06, 2006 8:37 AM> > Re: Charts of a child> > > > > :: Hare Rama Krsna ::> > Dear Santosh,> > Jiddu Krishnamurti was born with Moon in the first degrees of Moola> nakshatra. He was seperated from his Father from a very early age, and> there were many law suits and disputes over this. Here are the birth> details:> > May 12th, 1985, 0:23:29, 78E30 - 13N33 (5:30)> > For the chart you have given, I cannot offer much, but one observation is> that Sun is in the 12th from the Arudha Lagna which can indicate that the> Father will not see the person's rise in life.> Another point is that in the Dwadasamsa the 9th lord Mars is placed in> Lagna (Leo), which would make the Father a prominent person. Is this the> case?> > Respectfully,> Michal> > :: Om Namo Narayanaya ::> > santosh1903 santosh1903 wrote:> > > > Respected Guruji, > > Sadar Charan sparsh! I have following your work through the webisite> & is greatly impressed with your findings & the help which you & your> esteemed group is providing to people. I am myself attached to vedic> astrology sice last two year & have been doing a lot of> research.Recently I have gone through a very strange chart & would> welcome yours & others comment & views on the same. The deatils of> the same are given below :> > Date of Birth : 17-June-2000> Time of the Birth : 00.20 AM> Place of Birth : Kolkata> > The Child is born in `Abhookta Moola' Dasha & according to astrology> is dangerous for his father. I have read that even Goswami Tulsidas> was also born under the same dosha & was abondoned by his father! Now> I want to know your views on this. Please reply as soon as possible.> > Thank You,> > Sadar Pranam,> Santosh > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail.> <http://us.rd./evt=42297/*http://advision.webevents./mailb> eta> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheap Talk? 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[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Sourav,I was a grade A student until my 16th year. Following this I couldn't study at all. I was enrolled in school, but hardly attended classes and was much more interested in going surfing. Then at 21, again I saw value in studying, and now I can't find enough time to put my head in a book. Mercury is in the 4th house.7th May 1981, 3:15am, Warsaw, Poland.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Sourav <souravc108 wrote: || Hare Raama Krsna || || Durgaa Saranam || Dear Swee-ji, Pranaam. Your observations are correct. However, for Budha, it is in own sign and gives Mahaapurusha yoga and with Lagnesha Guru sitting there modifies the MKS situation to a great extent. Guru in the 4th gives great learning and this also gives Dharma-karmaadhipaty yoga with Ketu 9th lord conjoining. The idea is that when teacher is sitting in front of the student, he has to study and get good marks and especially if he is very familiar with this subject (being in own rasi). I consider Budha in the 4th to be MKS

only within 16 years of age. Please ask if he was a bit unhappy (only a bit) till his high-school education and had other strong extra-curricular interests. Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================= sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Rafal,> Namaste> > A castrato cannot ever have a relationship, so I guess they can only flirt> > According to my Grandma in the days of yore, these poor serfs (esp. Saturn)> were castrated so that they may serve people like her in the palace; (grrrr)> so they can only but build up their dreams serving in the harem.> > On a more serious note, Mercury takes on the energy of that planet if it> conjoins

with another planet. I have a Meena lagna chart here with Mercury> conjoining Jupiter and Ketu in the 4th in Gemini. The man was never a flirt> and as for the sweeping statement on Mercury in Marana in the 4th with the> playful children that Mercury is who does not want to study, he is a cum> laude medalist in agriculture and a business major.> > Love,> Swee> > > On 11/7/06 9:09 PM, "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > Dear Michal,> > Buddha is eunuch and want to have flirt rather than serious relationship,> > while Sani has digbal there. I use it because my Guruji and Sanjay Ji used to> > use it. > > b) Sarvarha Cintamani is source. also in beginning of COVA they are few words> > about it.> > Regards> > Rafal

Gendarz> > > >> > >> -> >> > >> Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >> > >> sohamsa > >> > >> Tuesday, November 07, 2006 8:00 PM> >> > >> Re: Charts of a child> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> :: Hare Rama Krsna ::> >> > >> Dear Rafal,> >> > >> A couple more questions.> >> > >> 1. It is fine that Jataka Parijata says something. But why is Buddha in MKS> >> in 7th house - what is the reasoning behind it. I know that in many> >> classics there can be such statements which can be applied wrongly if one> >> does not have the right understanding of how to use

them. For example,> >> Parasara mentions the 7 charakaraka scheme, and some people have gone to use> >> this not knowing it is for Muhurta and not living beings. Still they use it> >> because there it is written. But the reason is not clear. If you know why> >> then please tell me.> >> > >> 2. What is Pachakadi Sambandha? I have had a quick look through a couple> >> of books and can't find reference to it.> >> > >> Respectfully,> >> Michal> >> > >> :: Om Namo Narayanaya ::> >> > >> Rafal Gendarz starsuponme wrote:> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> hraum namah adityaya> >>> > >>> Dear Michal,> >>> > >>> Comments below.> >>> > >>>

Regards> >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> -> >>>> > >>>> Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >>>> > >>>> sohamsa > >>>> > >>>> Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:38 AM> >>>> > >>>> Re: Charts of a child> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> >>>> > >>>> Dear Rafal,> >>>> > >>>> So you are saying that AK and PiK sambandha is bad. Why do you use 7th> >>>>

house as Marana Karaka Sthana for Mercury? Why not in the 4th house? Why> >>>> are planets in the 7th house from Mars (as Lagnesha) bad?> >>>> > >>>> [rafal] There are two marana karaka sthana's to buddha [two marakas to> >>>> Gemini and Virgo in natural zodiac]. One is forth bhava and one is seventh> >>>> bhava. Therefore buddha in forth in D10 is so bad because its in MKS to> >>>> Karyabhava and Dasamsa Lagna. You can use MKS and Pachakadi everywhere as> >>>> long as You know what You are doing..Jataka Parijata says seventh> >>>> placement is bad for buddha and mangal and call it Marana Karaka Sthana.> >>>> 2) we use Lagnesh to see how person is feeling with event.> >>>> > >>>> In the 2nd chart Pik Mercury is in Marana Karaka Sthana from Atmakarka>

>>>> Mars ie. it is in the 7th house from Mars. So this combination will be> >>>> bad for the relationship with Father.> >>>> > >>>> [rafal] This can mean many things but must be confirmed with other points.> >>>> Like bad combination with DK & 7L or Ve can mean that You will not see> >>>> Your partners at all. Complete denial.> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> In the 1st chart however PiK Sun is in the 12th house from the Atmakaraka> >>>> Moon, whose Marana Karaka Sthana is the 8th house. Why does the Moon have> >>>> an aversion to planets placed in the 12th from it?> >>>> > >>>> [rafal] The second question is connected more to philosophy and sth what> >>>> people call mythology. In Charakaraka

sambandha we use mainly (1) Marana> >>>> Karaka sthana and (2) Pachakadi Sambandha. In Pachakadi S. Moon hates all> >>>> grahas in 12 bhava from Him/Her.> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Respectfully,> >>>> Michal> >>>> > >>>> [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> >>>> > >>>> Rafal Gendarz starsuponme wrote:> >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Michal,> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes, PiK and 9L from Surya is in 7 from AK Mercury and Ma-Lagnesh.> >>>>> > >>>>> >

>>>>> > >>>>> Here also the PiK is in bad sambandha with AK and situation is the> >>>>> same/similar.> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> November 4, 1986> >>>>> Time: 21:04:12> >>>>> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> >>>>> Place: 19 E 55' 00", 50 N 05' 00"> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> May 24, 1984> >>>>> Time: 22:39:49> >>>>> Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)> >>>>> Place: 18 E 38' 10", 50 N 24' 10"> >>>>> > >>>>>

> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards> >>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >>>>>> > >>>>>> sohamsa > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Monday, November 06, 2006 8:54 PM> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Re: Charts of a child>

>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> :: Hare Rama Krsna ::> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Rafal,> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sorry, that was a typo - it was meant to read 1885.> >>>>>> > >>>>>> I too have the Sun exalted in Arudha Lagna, and I was seperated from my> >>>>>> Father as per the dictum, at around about ten years of age (after birth> >>>>>> from Mother).> >>>>>> > >>>>>> My younger sister does not have this combination however, nor Abhookta> >>>>>> Moola dosa, yet she has not seen her father since the age of six. Here> >>>>>> are her details: July 20th 1985, 1:59am,

Auckland, New Zealand.> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Respectfully,> >>>>>> Michal> >>>>>> > >>>>>> :: Om Namo Narayanaya ::> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz starsuponme wrote:> >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> hraum namah adityaya> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Michal,> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Jiddu Krishnamurti (like Sri Rama) is example of Sun in Arudha lagna in> >>>>>>> exaltation which make Him seperate 10yrs after birth from mother.> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> He was not born in

1985.> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Page 289 of Jyotish Fundamentals.> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > -> > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > sohamsa > > Monday, November 06, 2006 8:37 AM> > Re: Charts of a child> > > > > :: Hare Rama Krsna ::> > Dear Santosh,> > Jiddu Krishnamurti was born with Moon in the first degrees of Moola> nakshatra. He was seperated from his Father from a very early age, and> there were many law suits and

disputes over this. Here are the birth> details:> > May 12th, 1985, 0:23:29, 78E30 - 13N33 (5:30)> > For the chart you have given, I cannot offer much, but one observation is> that Sun is in the 12th from the Arudha Lagna which can indicate that the> Father will not see the person's rise in life.> Another point is that in the Dwadasamsa the 9th lord Mars is placed in> Lagna (Leo), which would make the Father a prominent person. Is this the> case?> > Respectfully,> Michal> > :: Om Namo Narayanaya ::> > santosh1903 santosh1903 wrote:> > > > Respected Guruji, > > Sadar Charan sparsh! I have following your work through the webisite> & is greatly impressed with your findings & the help which you & your> esteemed group is providing to people. I am myself attached to vedic>

astrology sice last two year & have been doing a lot of> research.Recently I have gone through a very strange chart & would> welcome yours & others comment & views on the same. The deatils of> the same are given below :> > Date of Birth : 17-June-2000> Time of the Birth : 00.20 AM> Place of Birth : Kolkata> > The Child is born in `Abhookta Moola' Dasha & according to astrology> is dangerous for his father. I have read that even Goswami Tulsidas> was also born under the same dosha & was abondoned by his father! Now> I want to know your views on this. Please reply as soon as possible.> > Thank You,> > Sadar Pranam,> Santosh > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail.>

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November 9, 2006

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

|| Durgaa Saranam ||

Dear Michal,

namaskar. When a graha is in MKS it means that the graha is suffering because it is asked to do something it doesn't like. Due to this the graha (i.e. its karakatva) is weak and its own lordship also suffers. Budha signifies the learning capability and when in MKS indicates difficulty in reading and comprehension. However, in order to see if primary education suffers or not, we should see the 4th house and 4th lord themselves.

In your chart, 4th lord is Sukra and is in digvala and in own rasi. Further, this is in 9th from Paakalagna and has drishti of Guru. So primary education is not going to suffer a lot. But, Sukra is in rasi sandhi and here is the weakness. To see the exact effect, we should visit the Siddhamsa (which we discussed several months ago). In the Siddhamsa, 4th lord is Sukra in MKS and in inimical rasi, but Budha is exalted and is 8th lord in the 8th (hard work, good in speech, knowing little bit of everything and being able to speak of the same) and is lord of 5th house (reputation). But there is some deficiency in the primary education due to weakness of Sukra. Now, in Rahu Dasa, Sukra antar (1997 or 16 yrs of age) you started taking frequent leaves from classes. This Sukra in MKS in the Siddhamsa is showing colors during its antar dasa. Rahu-Ketu is inimical to continuation of education; Rahu is lagnehsa in the 3rd indicating taking leave or traveling short

distances frequently. Sukra is 9th lord in MKS indicates absence of teachers or teachers unable to give you education. After your high school, 1999 onwards, I suppose, Chandra antar was running. Chandra is in debility in Navaamsa and is in parivartana with Sukra. So this trend continues. Mangal is well placed in Surya's rasi but is in MKS and aspecting the 9th house (bachelors level or after high-school education) and this trend continues as before. Surya antardasa was briefly a relatively better period (please confirm).

Your 21 years of age comes during 2002 which is Guru-Guru period (Vimsottari-Chandra Sphuta). In Rasi, Guru gives drishti to the 4th house and is in Paakalagna and gives 5th house argala. In Siddhamsa, Guru is strongly placed in moolatrikona in the 11th house and obstructs malefic argala of Mangal on the 9th house. Guru is also giving aspect to the paakalagna. Here there are two paakalagnas and during Guru dasa Guru antar, Sani is stronger as Guru disposits Sani and is with Sani in Rasi chart so your interest in education in increased. Have you continued into your Master's level ? From Guru dasa start, your interest in para vidya (jyotisha, spirituality etc) will flourish as 5th house and 5th lord are aspected by Guru and 5th lord himself is in the 8th. 5th, 2nd, 8th and 11th are very well connected and indicates that you will do very well with jyotish and esoteric studies and will be a good astrologer. Again, you are in Budha antar and sitting down and studying

becomes difficult.

Let me make clear why I said that I consider Budha MKS in the 4th in the teen years especially in the 16 years or before. MKS in the 4th is related to reading writing and learning and with this configuration native suffers from keeping concencentration and is a bit fidgety. This is how kaarakatva suffers. In the teen, pre-teen years sitting and studying is very vital and Budha is in control during these formative years. As to timing the problems, see that the lordship of the MKS graha in the antar and mahaa dasas. The suffering comes from the lordships. MKS is not the only weakness for the graha. Its other strengths and weakness must be taken into consideration. At some point in the antardasa there will be dire suffering if the graha is weak in other respects also. In your rasi chart, Sukra conjoins Budha and can give some of Budha's results and did so during your 16th year when Sukra antar was running.

Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Sourav,I was a grade A student until my 16th year. Following this I couldn't study at all. I was enrolled in school, but hardly attended classes and was much more interested in going surfing. Then at 21, again I saw value in studying, and now I can't find enough time to put my head in a book. Mercury is in the 4th house.7th May 1981, 3:15am, Warsaw, Poland.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

November 9, 2006

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Sourav,Your analysis is very thorough and largely correct.I think you are right about Shukra giving some of the results of Buddha during its dasa. And now, during Buddha dasa, some results of Shukra have come I'm sure. Venus is Rajyoga Karaka and forming Malavya Mahapurusha yoga, and since the begining of Mercury dasa I have been involved in running a succesful business, aquiring a beautiful property and house, our first child, and so many other blessings. All of which has been made possible since I got married - Venus is DK and Lord of UL placed therein.And yes Guru dasa changed everything in my life. Rahu dasa was filled with so much confusion and ignorance, and my memory of that time is very vague. Knowledge (Guru) changed all of that.Respectfully,Michal[ Om

Namo Narayanaya ]Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108 wrote: || Hare Raama Krsna || || Durgaa Saranam || Dear Michal,

namaskar. When a graha is in MKS it means that the graha is suffering because it is asked to do something it doesn't like. Due to this the graha (i.e. its karakatva) is weak and its own lordship also suffers. Budha signifies the learning capability and when in MKS indicates difficulty in reading and comprehension. However, in order to see if primary education suffers or not, we should see the 4th house and 4th lord themselves. In your chart, 4th lord is Sukra and is in digvala and in own rasi. Further, this is in 9th from Paakalagna and has drishti of Guru. So primary education is not going to suffer a lot. But, Sukra is in rasi sandhi and here is the weakness. To see the exact effect, we should visit the Siddhamsa (which we discussed several months ago). In the Siddhamsa, 4th lord is Sukra in MKS

and in inimical rasi, but Budha is exalted and is 8th lord in the 8th (hard work, good in speech, knowing little bit of everything and being able to speak of the same) and is lord of 5th house (reputation). But there is some deficiency in the primary education due to weakness of Sukra. Now, in Rahu Dasa, Sukra antar (1997 or 16 yrs of age) you started taking frequent leaves from classes. This Sukra in MKS in the Siddhamsa is showing colors during its antar dasa. Rahu-Ketu is inimical to continuation of education; Rahu is lagnehsa in the 3rd indicating taking leave or traveling short distances frequently. Sukra is 9th lord in MKS indicates absence of teachers or teachers unable to give you education. After your high school, 1999 onwards, I suppose, Chandra antar was running. Chandra is in debility in Navaamsa and is in parivartana with Sukra. So this trend continues. Mangal is well placed in Surya's rasi but is in MKS and aspecting the 9th house

(bachelors level or after high-school education) and this trend continues as before. Surya antardasa was briefly a relatively better period (please confirm). Your 21 years of age comes during 2002 which is Guru-Guru period (Vimsottari-Chandra Sphuta). In Rasi, Guru gives drishti to the 4th house and is in Paakalagna and gives 5th house argala. In Siddhamsa, Guru is strongly placed in moolatrikona in the 11th house and obstructs malefic argala of Mangal on the 9th house. Guru is also giving aspect to the paakalagna. Here there are two paakalagnas and during Guru dasa Guru antar, Sani is stronger as Guru disposits Sani and is with Sani in Rasi chart so your interest in education in increased. Have you continued into your Master's level ? From Guru dasa start, your interest in para vidya (jyotisha, spirituality etc) will flourish as 5th house and 5th lord are aspected by Guru and 5th lord himself is in the 8th. 5th, 2nd, 8th and 11th are very

well connected and indicates that you will do very well with jyotish and esoteric studies and will be a good astrologer. Again, you are in Budha antar and sitting down and studying becomes difficult. Let me make clear why I said that I consider Budha MKS in the 4th in the teen years especially in the 16 years or before. MKS in the 4th is related to reading writing and learning and with this configuration native suffers from keeping concencentration and is a bit fidgety. This is how kaarakatva suffers. In the teen, pre-teen years sitting and studying is very vital and Budha is in control during these formative years. As to timing the problems, see that the lordship of the MKS graha in the antar and mahaa dasas. The suffering comes from the lordships. MKS is not the only weakness for the graha. Its other strengths and weakness must be taken into consideration. At some point in the antardasa there will be dire suffering if the

graha is weak in other respects also. In your rasi chart, Sukra conjoins Budha and can give some of Budha's results and did so during your 16th year when Sukra antar was running. Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu. Best wishes, Sourav ==================================================================== [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Sourav,I was a grade A student until my 16th year. Following this I couldn't study at all. I was enrolled

in school, but hardly attended classes and was much more interested in going surfing. Then at 21, again I saw value in studying, and now I can't find enough time to put my head in a book. Mercury is in the 4th house.7th May 1981, 3:15am, Warsaw, Poland.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

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