Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Jay Gurudev ! Dear Sourav, I want to take forward the discussion which you initiated about my Atmakaraka & Mool Dasha. 1) I have a feeling that my AK is Ketu & not Mangal. though technically Mars qualifies as it is with 3 planets but the fact that he is placed with AK makes me vary of its status as Ishta. on the Other hand Ketu, besides being a co-lord of 12th from Karkamsha, also placed in 9th from AK and joined BK who is again in exchange of AK. In d20, Ketu is in exchange with Ketu. Little Story-->In childhood (7 to 14years of age)i used to draw lot of diff. pictures of Ganapati Bapa. In summer vacation, I used to pickup any marriage Invitation card and start drawing the picture of Gajanan from that card. and that was a time, i was very spiritual too. The above points makes me feel to believe that Ketu is the planet which serves the purpose of Ishta, Dharma devata & even Guru for me. 2) Mool Dasha - I am not sure about the settings you have used for Mool Dasha. as per me, Mercury Mool Dasha is running since 14.5.96 till 14.5.2008. at present I am in Mercury/Venus Mool Dasha. Now see the relevence. a) In d60, Mercury is in 7th in Maran Karka Sthana hemmed between Paap Kartari hence Mercury is bound to discharge Karma Phal vipaka related mainly to Marriage. I married exactly at the onset of Mercury Mool dasha started (Mer/Mer) and that was only a physical marriage just to adhere to dharma. I never was happy by then for many years as it was done against my wishes and i suffered great mental turmoil after that. b)Merc/Satrun's later period & Merc/Venus initial period was a storm in my married life (aspecially 2003 Dec tom 2004 June) but that storm proved fortunate as then it brought a great relief in me mentally w.r.t married life. See Saturn is placed in 8th with Mars in Marka place of 7th as well as Mercury. Saturn is in Kaalamsha. It is adversly aspecting 7th lord sun which is also despositor of Mercury. c)Look at the Most important sub period of Venus. Note that Venus is Badhaka as well as Yogakarka in d60 and placed in Dharma sthana also being 4th lord.he is in Amritamsha, yogakarka for my mithuna lagna in d1 and placed in rashi Lagna, in mutual relation with BK Guru, in D20 it he is lagna lord placed in 4th with exalted mars in AL. My Mercury is also in Amritamsha. Now I am in the Mercury/Venus period since 18.2.2004 to 17.12.2006. a period of the planets who are in Amritamsha--note the date of Commencement-- --> 18.2 is My future Guru Thakur's birth day (who arrived in my life little later), On the same day i.e 18.2.2004, I visited Ajamer. I visited the holy place of saint Nizamuddin and in the eveing visited " Pushkal Tirth " and taken holy bath. It was also the day of " Maha shivaratri " . I did complete fast the whole day & night without food. I prayed yearningly to lord Shiva, my most adored lord since birth and also Ishta devta of my Kula (the shape of the temple itself is having Big Snake around Shivlinga in a Garden) Now so much Incidents can never happen coincidently. It all happened in one day is surely because Vensu Sub period started and Venus has many relevance as already mentioned above. -->in May or June 2004, Thakur Arrived thro' " Ramkrishna KATHAMRUTA " (see.. lot of Amruta) -->Since 4th Nov 2005 i am regularly doing " Mahalakshmi Vrata " on every fridy. -->started doing Meditation, Reading lot of Books on spiritualty, Sudarshan Kriya came as a Prasad of guru Sri Sri Ravishankar etc.. etc.. -->Importantly, remedy for mother (Matru Shapa) was also performed during this period of Venus. At present (from 5th of Oct) i am reciting Navagraha Stotra & Mahamritunjaya Mantra to mitigate " Surya Sankranti Dosha " in my chart. Now it is Venus who si responsibe for all this remedial mesures which i performed & continue to perform as 9th lord of D60 placed in 9th and that too in Amritamsha. and FINALLY, Though I am in most dangerous & Uncertain state of Career, I am not feeling greatly troubled. there is a feeling of Bliss in my Heart, my mind is at rest and i am sure that sub period of Venus is at the Mool for all these. many thanks to sourav & all who could read so much. the point is to demonstrate Mool Dasha & its affects to all my friends as i have understood it. Yours, Utpal Pathak sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote: > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > || Durgaa Smaranam || > > Dear Utpal, > > namaskar. Lahiri ayanaamsa is correct. If you > take Raman Ayanaamsa then Surya is in 12-th house under affliction from > Sani and aspect from Rahu-AK in the 10th. This would have been very bad > in the Rahu Moola Dasa (1995 onwards) and health of father would have > been bad (A9/Surya under affliction). But that is not the case I > suppose. Surya in the 2nd house in Navaamsa is very good for > spirituality especially with Ishtakaaraka Mangal joining AK (Nrisimha > Avataara and Mother Lakshmi). > > Even with Lahiri Ayanaamsa, Rahu Moola Dasa portends bad as exalted > Chandra is under affliction from Sani and Rahu. This is a strong curse > because of conjunction and rasi aspect and because Sani and Chandra are > in Vargottama amsa. Notice that Sani-Chandra is in the 7th from Navaamsa > Lagna and shows the primary reason for this birth. Hence you should be > taking strong steps in remedying this curse. Bathing in Raameshwaram and > Gaayatri Mantra are included as remedies to Matri shaapa. Notice that > Rahu-Sani owns the 8th, 9th and 12-th houses all critical for dharma, > saadhana and meditiona/spirituality. Please see VRA for details. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ================================================================ > > > sohamsa , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak@> wrote: > > > > || Jay Gurudev || > > > > Namaste Friends, > > > > This message may get little lengthy but i request you all to go > > thro' patiently as this provides a good Case study to test the Never > > Dying controversy of Ayanamsha and which is why The Ayanamsha vaue > > it self takes multiple Incarnations with the names like Lahiri, > > Raman, KP, Chadrahari, Fagan, pathak:> etc...) > > > > (NO DESRESPECT Meant to any of the Scholars who advocated those > > Ayanamsha...Infact Dr Raman is my most favourite) > > > > To test the nearest value of Ayanamsha, Practical chart(s) could > > provide us with the best tool and in that " AK " is the most > > appropriate phenomenon to look at. The charts with AK absolutely at > > the Boarder can provide an almost decisive clue to choose the most > > correct one amongst all the Ayanamsha. > > > > I am taking up my own chart for the same - 14.5.1972, 8.15.27 (am), > > 73e00,23n48, (Idar, Gujarat) 5.30 east of GMT. > > > > To give little background- I was always sure in past (since > > childhood) that my Sun is in 11th (Mesha) at 29+ degrees. that was > > because my traditional Chart was indicating that. I was naturally > > drawn to Vedic Jyotish in the year 90 or 91. Now confusion started > > when i understood that Su goes to 12th (Vrishbha) if i use Raman or > > KP Ayanamsha. till that time, i actually didn't bother to know the > > meaning of Ayanamsha (I am a reverse case who studied lot of books, > > artivles and started applying to charts whatever i read and even > > dared to predict which was coming true most of the times and then > > started learning basics :)typical case of Rahu astrology-reverse > > way). > > > > coming back to topic, the confusion started for me. Sun is in Mesha > > or in Vrishbha? My Intuition was steadfastly sticking to Mesha but > > Inquiring Mind wanted some solid proof. so the question hovered on > > my mind as to which Ayanamsha is the correct one. how to get the > > answer which can satisfy my intelligence (if at all it's there on > > the top floor;). > > > > Come the Knowledge of " Char-karka " (with advent of Guru MD) and the > > concrete logic was found. > > SUN is AK as per Lahiri & Rahu is AK as per all the others such as > > Raman, KP, C.Hari etc.. I checked the traits indicated by Maharshi > > Jaimini for different planets as AK. > > > > Sun- Inherent Ahamkar, Person should learn to be humble, faces > > humbling situation etc.. > > > > Rahu- Rogue or Saint, gets cheated often or cheats others. > > > > Now it was easy to confirm from the above that who my AK. I have > > solid case of Rahu as AK and the above said rule perfectly suits him > > hence it is obvious to me that it is Sun & only Sun. My intuition > > proved right with the above theory of classic and Inquiring mind > > also got satisfied with that. I am happy now that i always > > used " Chitra Paksha " Ayanamsha and since then the chaper is closed > > for me. > > > > Spirituality is very much there but that is due to some combinations > > present in Rashi, D9 & D20 but there is nothing sort of Cheating & > > getting cheated to confirm Rahu's position as AK in my chart. > > > > Finally Sun in my chart, though unfortunately bestows " Sankranti > > Dosha " on me, fortunately proved of a great help, nay.. decisive > > factor to finalize " Ayanamsha " issue for me at least for the time > > being. I mean till a new Incarnation of Ayanamsha comes which should > > not be less then 3 Minutes 43 seconds compared to Lahiri to again > > bother me. > > > > Jay Gurudev > > > > yours, > > > > Utpal Pathak > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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