To Swee-ji - Several questions about gemstones-reg chronic illness

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( Om Namo Narayanaya)

 

Dear Swee ji and all,

 

Namaskar.

My rasi is meena, lagna Midhuna.

My birth details are 28th feb 1960, Madras, India, 14.42 hrs(TOB not

rectified).

I have been wearing a yellow sapphire(not sure of ratti though) on

the 2nd finger of my right hand. My lagna lord, Budh is deb in the

10th with Moon and Ketu with the aspect of Rahu from the 4th in

kanya.

I am also wearing a diamond on the 2nd finger of my left hand and is

a very small stone . My venus is in Makar (8th) with Mars.

 

Jup and Saturn are in Dhanus, Sun in Kumbh.

I have been suffering from a chronic illness for the last 7 years,

was undiagnosed for 5years. I have been a lot better since June 2006

(went to India, my homeland).

Kindly suggest if I should continue wearing these, since Jup is

Badhakesh and venus being in the 8th. I have also lost my career in

2004.The yellow sapphire is dark yellow in colour.

I have relocated abroad in 2005.

I have another doubt, in Navamsh, Rahu is in the 9th, Makar, but the

chronic illness(pulmonary Sarcoidosis)- related to immune system is

suggestive of Rahu in the 8th. kindly Clarify.

 

Regards

Nalini

 

 

 

sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Dear Sourav et al,

> Namaste

>

> If the suggestion of a ³blue emerald² is what is being translated

is

> correct, then it is right to assume that a yellow beryl should be

the

> Uparatna and NOT a yellow Topaz. The emerald is from the beryl

family, hence

> all colours related to this family of gemstone should apply. Take

note that

> the ywllow beryl, which I think is very beautiful is a fraction of

the price

> and even cheaper than the rare yellow Tourmaline.

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

>

>

>

> On 10/2/06 8:40 AM, " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Sri Prafulla-ji,

> >

> > namaskar. Sanjay-ji

specifically

> > recommended wearing Yellow Topaz (Maharatna - Yellow Sapphire)

for my self

> > with Tula Janma rasi. Hence I am attempting to do the same. What

are the

> > reasons for white sapphire, he suggested ?

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> >

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> > sohamsa , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Dear Saurav ji

> >> >

> >> > I made mistake - sorry for tula rasi / lagna, I wanted to say.

> >> >

> >> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >> >

> >> > Our circumstances answer to our expectations and the demand

of our natures.

> >> >

> >> > ************************************************

> >> >

> >> >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > souravc108@

> >>> > > Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:40:47 -0000

> >>> > > sohamsa

> >>> > > Re: To Swee-ji - Several questions

about gemstones

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the

> >>> > > knowledge.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x

magnification. This is

> >>> > > interesting.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow

Sapphire of a *pale*

> >>> > > yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely

treated). Please

> >>> > > provide be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-

G-A seller

> >>> > > also have good qualities ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It

should be

> >>> > > January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is

Mithuna. Janma

> >>> > > Rasi is Tula.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and

Guru is in Lagna

> >>> > > in Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused

neechabhanga thus. Guru

> >>> > > is also in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is

very strong

> >>> > > in my chart in Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the

10th house and

> >>> > > takes primary control of the chart (being Pakesha too).

But Ketu is 6th

> >>> > > lord. Hence, to transfer the power to Guru, he suggested

Mantras and

> >>> > > said the only gemstone suitable, is for Guru.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Thank you in anticipation.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Best wishes,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Sourav

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

==================================================================

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> Dear Sourav,

> >>>> > >> Namaste

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological

section in the

> >>> > > VRA

> >>>> > >> as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply

do not agree

> >>> > > with

> >>>> > >> (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> 1. Peridot ­ To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury.

Now, the

> >>> > > gemstone

> >>>> > >> has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically

states that

> >>> > > this is

> >>>> > >> to be avoided.

> >>>> > >> 2. Imperial Topaz is always ­ I mean almost never NOT

heat

> >>> > > treated. Which

> >>>> > >> comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is

heat treated?

> >>> > > The

> >>>> > >> answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x

magnification

> >>> > > is the

> >>>> > >> acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at

least about 80x,

> >>> > > you

> >>>> > >> should be able to make the ripples caused by the

heating. From

> >>> > > experience,

> >>>> > >> you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that

extra lustre

> >>> > > that a

> >>>> > >> heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow

sapphire, it

> >>>> > >> normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to

purchase the rough

> >>> > > or

> >>>> > >> purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and

facets the

> >>>> > >> gemstones themselves ­ not a slight on the people, but

Sri Lankan

> >>> > > and Indian

> >>>> > >> facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally

accepted. If

> >>> > > you

> >>>> > >> currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help

you. Though

> >>> > > his

> >>>> > >> prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get

what you request

> >>> > > for.

> >>>> > >> 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended ­

ALL, topaz

> >>> > > comes in

> >>>> > >> either blue of white ­ mostly white. Your yellow topaz is

> >>> > > irradiated. So it

> >>>> > >> is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the

radiation from

> >>> > > the

> >>>> > >> gemstone does harm to your body.

> >>>> > >> 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti

x 0.8 = 5.6

> >>> > > carats

> >>>> > >> is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji

to answer. But

> >>> > > the

> >>>> > >> idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet,

hence a

> >>> > > tendency

> >>>> > >> for a weight challenged person to put on a ³bigger-is-

better²

> >>> > > gemstone will

> >>>> > >> increase his weight much faster. But answer to your

question: Is

> >>> > > bigger

> >>>> > >> better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I

have seen

> >>> > > very good

> >>>> > >> results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja

and flowers

> >>>> > >> pertaining to that planet, Guru¹s blessings if

possible, offer

> >>> > > dakshina and

> >>>> > >> then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone ­

either round

> >>> > > the neck

> >>>> > >> (which is my preference) or the fingers.

> >>>> > >> 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa

and is your 5th

> >>> > > lord

> >>>> > >> and is also the sign that Sun exalts in ­ job, bhukti,

luck etc.

> >>> > > So why not

> >>>> > >> also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm?

If it is

> >>> > > wealth and

> >>>> > >> recognition, then a diamond can do the job better ­ 11th

lord on

> >>> > > the

> >>>> > >> ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9)

mantra was meant

> >>> > > for you

> >>>> > >> as the final energy shift is to the 7th

house/badhaksthana and paka

> >>> > > lagna.

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> Love,

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> Swee

> >>>> > >> sweechan@

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote:

> >>>>> > >>>

> >>>>> > >>> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >>>>> > >>>

> >>>>> > >>> Dear Swee-ji,

> >>>>> > >>>

> >>>>> > >>> Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail

> >>>>> > >>> sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is

very limited

> >>> > > and only

> >>>>> > >>> gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also

have your JD

> >>> > > article).

> >>>>> > >>> So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future.

I wanted to

> >>> > > know why in

> >>>>> > >>> VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not

recommended by 7 Rattis

> >>> > > is

> >>>>> > >>> recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it

just that

> >>> > > " larger is

> >>>>> > >>> better " concept. For some other ratnas, this

restiction on weights

> >>> > > are

> >>>>> > >>> mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and

higher weights are

> >>> > > not

> >>>>> > >>> recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a

yellow topaz for

> >>> > > my case

> >>>>> > >>> (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri

Ayanaamsa). I am

> >>> > > wondering

> >>>>> > >>> what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless

7 ratti stone

> >>> > > would be

> >>>>> > >>> costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of

verifying a heated

> >>> > > vs.

> >>>>> > >>> unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a

gemstone used by

> >>> > > another person

> >>>>> > >>> earlier ?

> >>>>> > >>>

> >>>>> > >>> Thank you.

> >>>>> > >>>

> >>>>> > >>> Best wishes,

> >>>>> > >>>

> >>>>> > >>> Sourav

> >>>>> > >>>

> >>>>> > >>>

> >>> > >

> >>>

=====================================================================

===\

> >>> > > ======

> >>>>> > >>> ===================

> >>>>> > >>> sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@

wrote:

> >>>>>>> > >>>>>

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> >>>>>>> > >>>>>

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Dear Sourav,

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Namaste

> >>>>>>> > >>>>>

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Firstly we need to understand that a King in days

of yore also

> >>> > > did penances

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> to get to where they are in their present life.

Hence their

> punya

> >>> > > is good

> >>>>>> > >>>> to

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all

indications of

> the

> >>> > > 9th

> >>>>>> > >>>> house.

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire

for the 9th

> >>> > > house, it

> >>>>>> > >>>> does

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> not tally with the statements in the puranas; that

amongst all

> >>> > > other

> >>>>>> > >>>> jewels,

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and

unbreakable. If

> >>>>>> > >>>> recollection

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable

of giving a RY

> >>> > > for a

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Mithuna lagna (please check).

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon

and is the

> >>> > > most abundant

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> ³gem² found in the world. Originally, all

gemstones do not

> >>> > > have colour

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals

in them cause

> >>> > > the colour.

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> As in both puranas I have come across, both

indicate that a

> >>> > > diamond with >>

> >>>> > >> the

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu

Dharmottara)­

> >>> > > note the word,

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> small ­ in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula

(rice

> >>> > > grain) = 8 x 20 =

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season

rice is medium

> >>> > > grain, take

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati =

800mg; 1 gram=5

> >>> > > carats) >>

> >>>> > >> and

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough

unpolished

> >>> > > 2.46 carat

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well

nearly) :-));

> >>> > > ³a king who

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> wears such a diamond wins all his enemies². It

takes one year

> >>> > > for one carat

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the

cooling time is much

> >>> > > faster,

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> then the degradation of the crystalisation is

evident.

> >>>>>>> > >>>>>

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Answer to your questions:

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are

primary gemstones,

> >>> > > less weight

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu

Dharmottara gave

> >>> > > the entire

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> range of gemstones and said all these should be

worn by the King

> >>> > > ­ that

> >>>>>> > >>>> goes

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was

also stated

> in

> >>> > > my

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> article). It is also stated that the Pearl should

be big and for

> >>> > > those to

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> want to save some money, the sankha pearl though

sky high

> prices,

> >>> > > is less

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> effective than the oyster pearl. I say this,

because some person

> >>> > > told me

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> that he waited so many years and saved up just to

get this

> pearl.

> >>> > > BUT what

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> is big may seem small to another ­ so its all

relative.

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours

equated to the

> >>> > > Tamal tree,

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine;

same beryi

> >>> > > family as

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an

important

> >>> > > factor, though

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> in the puranas, it considers the crystallised

rough gem of

> >>> > > importance.

> >>>>>> > >>>> Those

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc

(sounds like gravel

> >>> > > finds) are

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws,

dirt, alien to

> the

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> mineralisation should be avoided for the King who

wishes victory

> >>> > > (6th

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> house?), wealth (several houses) and long life

(Moon etc)

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted

diamond is a

> >>> > > fraction of a

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The

addendum to the

> Sun

> >>> > > giving

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In

spiritual >>>>>>>

> equation,

> >>> > > he is not

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also

goes with the

> >>> > > statement

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the

ruby or the

> >>> > > blue

> >>>>>> > >>>> sapphire

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the

crystal to the red

> >>> > > gem (we can

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is

more

> >>>>>>> meritorious

> >>> > > than the

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> former. The King should always wear the best

jewels because,

> >>> > > burnt by the

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body

of a man. V.

> >>> > > Dharm.

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments,

necklace and

> >>> > > bracelets of

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems ­

Vishnu Dhar.

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Khanda II Ch 16.24

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the

oval shape is

> >>> > > ruled by

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Jupiter which goes with the nature of the

crystalisation. An

> >>> > > emerald is

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> usually an ³emerald² cut/cut corner rectangular

or a

> >>> > > square, so like that,

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> we follow this as close as possible to the shape

of the crystal

> >>> > > as

> >>>>>> > >>>> suggested

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small

sized gem is that

> >>> > > it is an

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an

emerald.

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone

Mercury, a waxing

> >>> > > Moon, Jupiter

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow

Sapphire, as we

> >>> > > now know

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The

Artharvaveda >>>>>>>

> considers

> >>> > > another

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic.

There are many

> >>> > > ifs and

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are

important. A

> >>> > > Green Diamond

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown

diamond

> should

> >>> > > be worn

> >>>>>> > >>>> by

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman

who wishes for a

> >>> > > son should

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette

(rectangle).

> >>>>>>> > >>>>>

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Love,

> >>>>>>> > >>>>>

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Swee

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> sweechan@

> >>>>>>> > >>>>>

> >>>>>>> > >>>>>

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote:

> >>>>>>> > >>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Swee-ji,

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Namaskar. I have several questions regarding

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> gemstones. If you have time can you please

answer?

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is

given. Some of

> the

> >>> > > values

> >>>> > >> are

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> relatively high. Is there a specific

calculation done to

> >>> > > determine how

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> much

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ratti is needed ? What is the rationality

behind these

> >>> > > proposed weights

> >>>> > >> ?

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific

purpose to be

> >>> > > served ?

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the

gemstone ? For

> >>> > > example,

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> high

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> quality, less weight ?

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the

cut of the

> >>> > > gemstone ? Also,

> >>>> > >> are

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> there some specific cuts useful for specific

gemstones ? I

> >>> > > understand

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> that

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> from the stability of the cystal perspective

or from beauty

> >>> > > perspective,

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> some

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if

these cuts have

> an

> >>>>>>> > >>>>> astrological

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> reason.

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis

weights and cuts 5

> >>> > > gemstones

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> commonly used that can be recommended to

people ?

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best wishes,

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sourav

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>

> >>> > >

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