(To Visti-ji) To Swee-ji - Several questions about gemstones

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|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

Dear Visti-ji,

namaskar. Thanks for the note. Sanjay-ji didn't recommend daanam of gemstone but some other things which I am not mentioning here and I am doing the same. In respect of Swee-ji's suggestion, I have arranged daaman to a Brahmin Priest in my hometown and has been done by my parents on my behalf. Surprisingly that was very quickly arranged and that too on a Thursday when the Priest has agreed to come and accept the daanam. I have also had given daanam (humble offering) to my Diksha Guru as I do yearly, this time during Navaratri and he has replied with his asirvaada. The tithi when I asked Swee-ji my questions of yellow sapphire was ruled by Guru. When I first began contacting the seller, that was also another tithi ruled by Guru. My father has been very pleased with me because I am attempting to wear the gemstone of Guru and he has kindly given me permission. There are several other things associated I am not mentioning, but connectedly shows that this is right period of wearing Guru's gemstone. So I believe, the right time has come.

Noticeably, Guru is in Guru-Mangala yoga in the 9th from my Karakaamsa and indicates Lord Sri Raamakrishna as my Guru Devata. Hence, I believe I am under His kind guidence all along. The transit of Guru to the second house from my Chandra lagna in a few days from now will also be beneficial.

Do you suggest a specific Muhurta for wearing the gemstone and also any specific action to be taken before wearing ? I am thinking of doing archana for my Ishta devi Mother Durga at a local temple on Thursday and wear this ring after touching her feet it (subject to priest's permission) on a Thursday.

I understand your suggestion of procuring Daru-Brahma murti (Sri Sri Neema Jagannatha) and I will do the same in due course of time. May Lord Jagannatha be propitious to me to make me be able to do so. May Lord Jagannatha bless you for the suggestion.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> |Hare Rama Krsna|> Dear Swee and Sourav, Namaskar.> The form of Jagannath is in Neem wood, and is kept to ward of black > magic and evil eye, which arises when the Badhakesh is placed in the > first, sixth or eighth houses from lagna, or connected to either of > these lords. There are a few more combinations for black magic, but the > idol of Jagannath should not be given away in this case, as it would be > akin to giving away ones kavacha/protection. Instead its advisable to > keep and worship an idol of Sri Jagannath in this case.> Best wishes,> > Visti Larsen> Email: visti For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com> > > > Swee Chan wrote:> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> >> > Dear Sourav,> > Namaste> >> > I work on a 24hr clock. Sorry for that. One must follow the rules when > > delineating. Your Guru is badhakesh and is retrograde on the > > ascendant. The simple remedy (which have also worked for many) is to > > donate Brihaspati murti in wood or in gold or carved out in Yellow > > Sapphire but these suggestions are always according to your means. > > Together with this, offer ghee, sesame, sweets, honey and sandalpaste. > > Padma Purana goes on to suggest that one should donate a Yellow > > Sapphire, so consider this as your upaya. When Guru is satisfied, he > > in turn will give his blessings and hopefully "absorb" negative karma > > accrued by you. Then only may you consider wearing the Yellow Sapphire.> > Because your lagna lord aspects the movable signs together with Mars, > > both Mars and Saturn are involved in a negative aspect on your 5th > > with a negative Moon. The dispositor of course, is Venus and 9th from > > your AL.> > The alternative to a diamond is the white sapphire (refer to my > > article). The white sapphire belongs to the corundum family and it is > > much cheaper and purer; easier to get a flawless one-- less inclusions > > than a diamond (forget the flawless D col, it is far beyond ordinary > > reach.) Should you choose a 5 carater to wear round your neck, it > > should not cost you more than $80/carat at commercial prices.> > Next, you wrote on a Tuesday during Trayodashi ruled by Guru -- in my > > opinion consider the upaya to Guru and wear a red coral as the next > > dwisaptati dasa in 2008 is also Mars.> > Gaurav Jain's email -- yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com and I have seen and bought > > jyotish quality gems from him. A friend of mine was cheated buying > > from Thailand off the internet -- I am unhappy about this, because in > > the trade, when one says it is that col or quality and natural, rest > > assure that this is what you'll get. PGA is not an authority like the > > association in USA. If you lie, you are liable to a fine and maybe be > > struck off. Gaurav is a member of that assoc. So you can rest easy.> >> > Love,> >> > Swee> > sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> >> > On 9/20/06 4:40 AM, "Sourav" souravc108 > wrote:> >> >> > > > > >> > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||> > *> > Dear Swee-ji,> >> > Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the> > knowledge.> >> > 1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This> > is interesting.> >> > 2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a> > *pale* yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely> > treated). Please provide be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA.> > Also, does P-G-A seller also have good qualities ?> >> > 3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be> > January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna.> > Janma Rasi is Tula.> >> > In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in> > Lagna in Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused> > neechabhanga thus. Guru is also in Simhasana yoga and dispositor> > of Surya. Ketu is very strong in my chart in Devalokaamsa, and in> > moolatrikona in the 10th house and takes primary control of the> > chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th lord. Hence, to> > transfer the power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and said the only> > gemstone suitable, is for Guru.> >> > Thank you in anticipation.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Sourav> >> > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =========> > =========> >> >> > sohamsa@ .com, Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> > >> > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > >> > > Dear Sourav,> > > Namaste> > >> > > I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section> > in the VRA> > > as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not> > agree with> > > (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).> > >> > > 1. Peridot -- To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the> > gemstone> > > has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states> > that this is> > > to be avoided.> > > 2. Imperial Topaz is always -- I mean almost never NOT heat> > treated. Which> > > comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat> > treated? The> > > answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x> > magnification is the> > > acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about> > 80x, you> > > should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From> > experience,> > > you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra> > lustre that a> > > heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it> > > normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the> > rough or> > > purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the> > > gemstones themselves -- not a slight on the people, but Sri> > Lankan and Indian> > > facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally> > accepted. If you> > > currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you.> > Though his> > > prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you> > request for.> > > 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended -- ALL,> > topaz comes in> > > either blue of white -- mostly white. Your yellow topaz is> > irradiated. So it> > > is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation> > from the> > > gemstone does harm to your body.> > > 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 => > 5.6 carats> > > is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer.> > But the> > > idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a> > tendency> > > for a weight challenged person to put on a "bigger-is-better"> > gemstone will> > > increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is> > bigger> > > better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have> > seen very good> > > results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers> > > pertaining to that planet, Guru's blessings if possible, offer> > dakshina and> > > then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone -- either> > round the neck> > > (which is my preference) or the fingers.> > > 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is> > your 5th lord> > > and is also the sign that Sun exalts in -- job, bhukti, luck etc.> > So why not> > > also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is> > wealth and> > > recognition, then a diamond can do the job better -- 11th lord on the> > > ascendant... ..I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was> > meant for you> > > as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and> > paka lagna.> > >> > >> > > Love,> > >> > > Swee> > > sweechan@> > >> > >> > >> > > On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, "Sourav" souravc108@ .. wrote:> > > >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > >> > > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > >> > > > Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail> > > > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very> > limited and only> > > > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have> > your JD article).> > > > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted> > to know why in> > > > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7> > Rattis is> > > > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that> > "larger is> > > > better" concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on> > weights are> > > > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher> > weights are not> > > > recommended) . Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow> > topaz for my case> > > > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I> > am wondering> > > > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti> > stone would be> > > > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a> > heated vs.> > > > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by> > another person> > > > earlier ?> > > >> > > > Thank you.> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > >> > > > Sourav> > > >> > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =========> > ========= ========= ===> > > > ============ =======> > > > sohamsa@ .com, Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > > >> >> > > >> > Dear Sourav,> > > >> > Namaste> > > >> >> > > >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore> > also did penances> > > >> > to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their> > punya is good> > > >> to> > > >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/ religiosity all indications> > of the 9th> > > >> house.> > > >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the> > 9th house, it> > > >> does> > > >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst> > all other> > > >> jewels,> > > >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If> > > >> recollection> > > >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a> > RY for a> > > >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).> > > >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is> > the most abundant> > > >> > "gem" found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not> > have colour> > > >> > (colourless/ white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them> > cause the colour.> > > >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a> > diamond with >>> > > the> > > >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)--> > note the word,> > > >> > small -- in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice> > grain) = 8 x 20 => > > >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is> > medium grain, take> > > >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1> > gram=5 carats) >>> > > and> > > >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough> > unpolished 2.46 carat> > > >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-));> > "a king who> > > >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemies". It takes one> > year for one carat> > > >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is> > much faster,> > > >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.> > > >> >> > > >> > Answer to your questions:> > > >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary> > gemstones, less weight> > > >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara> > gave the entire> > > >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the> > King -- that> > > >> goes> > > >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also> > stated in my> > > >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and> > for those to> > > >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high> > prices, is less> > > >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some> > person told me> > > >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this> > pearl. BUT what> > > >> > is big may seem small to another -- so its all relative.> > > >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to> > the Tamal tree,> > > >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same> > beryi family as> > > >> > emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important> > factor, though> > > >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of> > importance.> > > >> Those> > > >> > carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like> > gravel finds) are> > > >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien> > to the> > > >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes> > victory (6th> > > >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)> > > >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a> > fraction of a> > > >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to> > the Sun giving> > > >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual> > equation, he is not> > > >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with> > the statement> > > >> > form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or> > the blue> > > >> sapphire> > > >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the> > red gem (we can> > > >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more> > meritorious than the> > > >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels because,> > burnt by the> > > >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man.> > V. Dharm.> > > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and> > bracelets of> > > >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems -- Vishnu Dhar.> > > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24> > > >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval> > shape is ruled by> > > >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An> > emerald is> > > >> > usually an "emerald" cut/cut corner rectangular or a square,> > so like that,> > > >> > we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the> > crystal as> > > >> suggested> > > >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is> > that it is an> > > >> > off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.> > > >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing> > Moon, Jupiter> > > >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as> > we now know> > > >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda> > considers another> > > >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are> > many ifs and> > > >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important.> > A Green Diamond> > > >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond> > should be worn> > > >> by> > > >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes> > for a son should> > > >> > avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).> > > >> >> > > >> > Love,> > > >> >> > > >> > Swee> > > >> > sweechan@> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> > > >> >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding> > > >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some> > of the values> > > are> > > >>> > > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to> > determine how> > > >>> much> > > >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these> > proposed weights> > > ?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be> > served ?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ?> > For example,> > > >>> high> > > >>> > > quality, less weight ?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the> > gemstone ? Also,> > > are> > > >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ?> > I understand> > > >>> that> > > >>> > > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from> > beauty perspective,> > > >>> some> > > >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts> > have an> > > >>> astrological> > > >>> > > reason.> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and> > cuts 5 gemstones> > > >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > Best wishes,> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > Sourav> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > ============ ========= ========= ========= =========> > ========= ========> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> >>

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Sourav,

Namaste

 

It is stated in the Garuda Purana that one should choose a good muhurta to purchase the gemstone, hence the extension of this, is one should elect a good muhurta to wear it. The day before your elected muhurta, soak it in raw (unpasteurised) milk over night and offer puja (my preference is puja is offered by a Purohit etc) and then you can instal it at the alloted time.

If electing Abhijit, choose a saumya day except for Abhijit during a Wednesday should be rejected.

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

On 10/2/06 9:00 AM, " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

 

Dear Visti-ji,

 

namaskar. Thanks for the note. Sanjay-ji didn't recommend daanam of gemstone but some other things which I am not mentioning here and I am doing the same. In respect of Swee-ji's suggestion, I have arranged daaman to a Brahmin Priest in my hometown and has been done by my parents on my behalf. Surprisingly that was very quickly arranged and that too on a Thursday when the Priest has agreed to come and accept the daanam. I have also had given daanam (humble offering) to my Diksha Guru as I do yearly, this time during Navaratri and he has replied with his asirvaada. The tithi when I asked Swee-ji my questions of yellow sapphire was ruled by Guru. When I first began contacting the seller, that was also another tithi ruled by Guru. My father has been very pleased with me because I am attempting to wear the gemsto! ne of Guru and he has kindly given me permission. There are several other things associated I am not mentioning, but connectedly shows that this is right period of wearing Guru's gemstone. So I believe, the right time has come.

 

Noticeably, Guru is in Guru-Mangala yoga in the 9th from my Karakaamsa and indicates Lord Sri Raamakrishna as my Guru Devata. Hence, I believe I am under His kind guidence all along. The transit of Guru to the second house from my Chandra lagna in a few days from now will also be beneficial.

 

Do you suggest a specific Muhurta for wearing the gemstone and also any specific action to be taken before wearing ? I am thinking of doing archana for my Ishta devi Mother Durga at a local temple on Thursday and wear this ring after touching her feet it (subject to priest's permission) on a Thursday.

 

I understand your suggestion of procuring Daru-Brahma murti (Sri Sri Neema Jagannatha) and I will do the same in due course of time. May Lord Jagannatha be propitious to me to make me be able to do so. May Lord Jagannatha bless you for the suggestion.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

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sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

> Dear Swee and Sourav, Namaskar.

> The form of Jagannath is in Neem wood, and is kept to ward of black

> magic and evil eye, which arises when the Badhakesh is placed in the

> first, sixth or eighth houses from lagna, or connected to either of

> these lords. There are a few more combinations for black magic, but the

> idol of Jagannath should not be given away in this case, as it would be

> akin to giving away ones kavacha/protection. Instead its advisable to

> keep and worship an idol of Sri Jagannath in this case.

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

> Email: visti

> For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

>

>

>

> Swee Chan wrote:

> >

> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> >

> > Dear Sourav,

> > ! Namaste

> >

> > I work on a 24hr clock. Sorry for that. One must follow the rules when

> > delineating. Your Guru is badhakesh and is retrograde on the

> > ascendant. The simple remedy (which have also worked for many) is to

> > donate Brihaspati murti in wood or in gold or carved out in Yellow

> > Sapphire but these suggestions are always according to your means.

> > Together with this, offer ghee, sesame, sweets, honey and sandalpaste.

> > Padma Purana goes on to suggest that one should donate a Yellow

> > Sapphire, so consider this as your upaya. When Guru is satisfied, he

> > in turn will give his blessings and hopefully " absorb " negative karma

> > accrued by you. Then only may you consider wearing the Yellow Sapphire.

> > Because your lagna lord aspects the movable signs together with Mars,

> > both Mars and Saturn are involved in a negative aspect o! n your 5th

> > with a negative Moon. The disposi tor of course, is Venus and 9th from

> > your AL.

> > The alternative to a diamond is the white sapphire (refer to my

> > article). The white sapphire belongs to the corundum family and it is

> > much cheaper and purer; easier to get a flawless one-- less inclusions

> > than a diamond (forget the flawless D col, it is far beyond ordinary

> > reach.) Should you choose a 5 carater to wear round your neck, it

> > should not cost you more than $80/carat at commercial prices.

> > Next, you wrote on a Tuesday during Trayodashi ruled by Guru -- in my

> > opinion consider the upaya to Guru and wear a red coral as the next

> > dwisaptati dasa in 2008 is also Mars.

> > Gaurav Jain's email -- yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com and I have seen and bought

> > jyotish quality gems from him. A friend of mine was cheated buying

> > from Thailand off the internet -- I am unhappy about this! , because in

> > the trade, when one says it is that col or quality and natural, rest

> > assure that this is what you'll get. PGA is not an authority like the

> > association in USA. If you lie, you are liable to a fine and maybe be

> > struck off. Gaurav is a member of that assoc. So you can rest easy.

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Swee

> > sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com

> >

> > On 9/20/06 4:40 AM, " Sourav " souravc108 > wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > *

> > Dear Swee-ji,

> >

> > Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the

> > knowledge.

> >

> > 1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This

> > is interesting.

> >

> > 2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a

> > *pale* y! ellow color rather than strong golden color (likely

> ; > treated). Please provide be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA.

> > Also, does P-G-A seller also have good qualities ?

> >

> > 3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be

> > January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna.

> > Janma Rasi is Tula.

> >

> > In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in

> > Lagna in Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused

> > neechabhanga thus. Guru is also in Simhasana yoga and dispositor

> > of Surya. Ketu is very strong in my chart in Devalokaamsa, and in

> > moolatrikona in the 10th house and takes primary control of the

> > chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th lord. Hence, to

> > transfer the power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and said the only

> > gemstone suitable, is for Guru.

> >

> > Thank you in anticipation.

> >> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =========

> > =========

> >

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com, Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> > >

> > > Dear Sourav,

> > > Namaste

> > >

> > > I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section

> > in the VRA

> > > as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not

> > agree with

> > > (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).

> > >

> > > 1. Peridot -- To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the

> > gemstone

> > > has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states

> > that this is

> > > to be avoided.

> > > 2. Imperi! al Topaz is always -- I mean almost never NOT heat

> > treated. Which

> > > comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat

> > treated? The

> > > answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x

> > magnification is the

> > > acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about

> > 80x, you

> > > should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From

> > experience,

> > > you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra

> > lustre that a

> > > heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it

> > > normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the

> > rough or

> > > purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the

> > > gemstones themselves -- not a slight on the people, but Sri

> > Lankan and Indian

> > > facets on colour gemstones are still not int! ernationally

> > accepted. If you

> > > currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you.

> > Though his

> > > prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you

> > request for.

> > > 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended -- ALL,

> > topaz comes in

> > > either blue of white -- mostly white. Your yellow topaz is

> > irradiated. So it

> > > is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation

> > from the

> > > gemstone does harm to your body.

> > > 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 =

> > 5.6 carats

> > > is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer.

> > But the

> > > idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a

> > tendency

> > > for a weight challenged person to put ! on a " bigger-is-better "

> > gemstone will

> > > increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is

> > bigger

> > > better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have

> > seen very good

> > > results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers

> > > pertaining to that planet, Guru's blessings if possible, offer

> > dakshina and

> > > then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone -- either

> > round the neck

> > > (which is my preference) or the fingers.

> > > 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is

> > your 5th lord

> > > and is also the sign that Sun exalts in -- job, bhukti, luck etc.

> > So why not

> > > also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is

> > wealth and

> > > recognition, then a diamond can do the job better -- 11th lord on the

> > > ! ascendant... ..I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was

> > meant for you

> > > as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and

> > paka lagna.

> > >

> > >

> > > Love,

> > >

> > > Swee

> > > sweechan@

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, " Sourav " souravc108@ .. wrote:

> > > >

> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Swee-ji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail

> > > > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very

> > limited and only

> > > > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have

> > your JD article).

> > > > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted

> > t! o know why in

> > > > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7

> > Rattis is

> > > > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that

> > " larger is

> > > > better " concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on

> > weights are

> > > > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher

> > weights are not

> > > > recommended) . Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow

> > topaz for my case

> > > > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I

> > am wondering

> > > > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti

> > stone would be

> > > > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a

> > heated vs.

> > > > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by

> > another person

> > > > earlier ?

> ! t; > >

> > > > Thank you.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Sourav

> > > >

> > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =========

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> > > > sohamsa@ .com, Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Dear Sourav,

> > > >> > Namaste

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore

> > also did penances

> > > >> > to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their

> > punya is good

> > > >> to

> > > >> > take birth with fortune! /dharma/ religiosity all indications

> > of the 9 th

> > > >> house.

> > > >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the

> > 9th house, it

> > > >> does

> > > >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst

> > all other

> > > >> jewels,

> > > >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If

> > > >> recollection

> > > >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a

> > RY for a

> > > >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).

> > > >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is

> > the most abundant

> > > >> > " gem " found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not

> > have colour

> > > >> > (colourless/ white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them

> > cause t! he colour.

> > > >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a

> > diamond with >>

> > > the

> > > >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)--

> > note the word,

> > > >> > small -- in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice

> > grain) = 8 x 20 =

> > > >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is

> > medium grain, take

> > > >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1

> > gram=5 carats) >>

> > > and

> > > >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough

> > unpolished 2.46 carat

> > > >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-));

> > " a king who

> > > >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemies " . It ta! kes one

> > year for one carat

> > > >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is

> > much faster,

> > > >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Answer to your questions:

> > > >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary

> > gemstones, less weight

> > > >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara

> > gave the entire

> > > >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the

> > King -- that

> > > >> goes

> > > >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also

> > stated in my

> > > >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and

> > for those to

> > > >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high

! gt; > prices, is less

> > > >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some

> > person told me

> > > >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this

> > pearl. BUT what

> > > >> > is big may seem small to another -- so its all relative.

> > > >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to

> > the Tamal tree,

> > > >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same

> > beryi family as

> > > >> > emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important

> > factor, though

> > > >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of

> > importance.

> > > >> Those

> > > >> > carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like

> > gravel finds) are

> > ! gt; >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien

> > to the

> > > >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes

> > victory (6th

> > > >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)

> > > >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a

> > fraction of a

> > > >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to

> > the Sun giving

> > > >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual

> > equation, he is not

> > > >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with

> > the statement

> > > >> > form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or

> > the blue

> > > >> sapphire

> > > >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the

> > red gem (we can

! t; > > >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more

> > meritorious than the

> > > >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels because,

> > burnt by the

> > > >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man.

> > V. Dharm.

> > > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and

> > bracelets of

> > > >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems -- Vishnu Dhar.

> > > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24

> > > >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval

> > shape is ruled by

> > > >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An

> > emerald is

> > > >> > usually an " emerald " cut/cut corner rectangular or a square,

> > so like that,

> > > >! t; > we follow this as close as possible to the shape o f the

> > crystal as

> > > >> suggested

> > > >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is

> > that it is an

> > > >> > off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.

> > > >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing

> > Moon, Jupiter

> > > >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as

> > we now know

> > > >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda

> > considers another

> > > >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are

> > many ifs and

> > > >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important.

> > A Green Diamond

> > > >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond

> > should be worn

! > > > >> by

> > > >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes

> > for a son should

> > > >> > avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Love,

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Swee

> > > >> > sweechan@

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote:

> > > >> >

> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,

> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> ! > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding

> > > >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?

> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some

> > of the values

> > > are

> > > >>> > > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to

> > determine how

> > > >>> much

> > > >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these

> > proposed weights

> > > ?

> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be

> > served ?

> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ?

> > For example,

> > > >>> high

> > > >>> > > quality, ! less weight ?

> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the

> > gemstone ? Also,

> > > are

> > > >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ?

> > I understand

> > > >>> that

> > > >>> > > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from

> > beauty perspective,

> > > >>> some

> > > >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts

> > have an

> > > >>> astrological

> > > >>> > > reason.

> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and

> > cuts 5 gemstones

> > > >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> > > Best wishes,

> > > >>> > >

> > > >>> > > Sourav

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