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Gald to know that, you were saved. Let us also see the savour planet.

 

regards / Prafulla GangOur circumstances answer to our expectations and the demand of our natures.************************************************

 

remamenonSent: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 04:31:04 -0700 (PDT)sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Quiz:

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna,Dear Upendra,You have answered the quiz correctly.I drowned in the Ocean. Was kayaking on Saturday andit turned windy and the kayak capsized. I was rescued,but it was a horrifying experience.Thanks, Rema--- upendra_agni <upendra.agni > wrote:> || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||> > Have you drowned in water and somebody helped you?> Reason is Both > Saturn placement and A8 are in Jala Rasi.> > Please note that I am just looking at the transit> chart on that day & > time you have mentioned. I dont know if seeing an> event in this way > is wrong. Learned members pls correct me.> > Regards,> Upendra> > sohamsa , Rema Menon> <remamenon wrote:> >> > Hare Rama Krishna,> > Dear Sourav,> > > > You are right,I was myself curious as to how to> verify> > the occurance of this event. It is not possible> > without absolute correct timing.> > > > I wish Gurus would help.> > > > It was an accident, but not vehicular. > > > > Thanks, > > Rema> > > > > > --- Sourav <souravc108 wrote:> > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > > > Dear Reema-ji,> > > > > > namaskar.> Judging> > > by the responses, it> > > seems like an accident (vehicular). Sani is> > > transiting 8th from Chandra> > > and is related to accidents (in D-16 chart).> Marakas> > > to the 4th house of> > > D-16 are also operational. Difficulties in job> > > during this dasa and> > > antar (Dwisaptati) is also not ruled out. Notice> > > that Shani is lord of> > > the 8th from the 4th house> > > (vehicles/luxuries/home/mother). So during> > > this transit upon its natal position, Sani can> > > damage 4th house.> > > > > > In general, if we are not very sure of the birth> > > time (upto seconds)> > > such events are difficult to single out (and> > > necessarily involves> > > intuition or guesswork). If you have very high> > > acuracy of birth time> > > (along with correct ayanaamsa), Deha antar dasas> > > will indicate the> > > event. Because it is not known to me, I provided> you> > > with choices of> > > which you stated one is correct.> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > Sourav> > > > > >> > >======================================================================> ==\> > > =====================> > > sohamsa , Rema Menon> > > <remamenon@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > Dear Supritiji,> > > >> > > > Sorry, No!> > > > Look at the present transist with dasa.> > > >> > > > By the way we are from the same state(NC)> > > >> > > > Thanks, Rema> > > >> > > > --- supriti108 supriti108@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> > > > > Dear Rema ji,> > > > >> > > > > Now that Sourav has provided the birth data,> I> > > would> > > > > like to attempt> > > > > your quiz. I am following your cue. I see Me> > > lord> > > > > of AL and 10th> > > > > from AL was in exaltation in AL at that> time.> > > There> > > > > is a> > > > > conglomeration of planets on your AL. It is> > > quiet> > > > > powerful. Me is> > > > > in Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in> Mo's> > > > > nakshatra and Mo is> > > > > in its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct> Su> > > and> > > > > Ke both in Sun's> > > > > nakshatra.> > > > >> > > > > You are running AL Narayana dasa (Virgo)!> Ju/Su> > > > > Vimsottari dasa (Ju> > > > > is 10th lord and Su is 3rd lord)> > > > >> > > > > My reading is that you gained in your job> front> > > -> > > > > promotion/raise etc.> > > > >> > > > > Looking forward to your reply.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Supriti> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon> > > > > remamenon@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > > > Dear Sourav,> > > > > >> > > > > > Your Analysis is methodical and thorough.> > > > > > But you didnot see the transists. Check> that,> > > I> > > > > think> > > > > > you will get it then.> > > > > > It is one of your options.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > Rema> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- Sourav souravc108@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Reema-ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > namaskar.> > > > > Thank> > > > > > > you for providing the> > > > > > > birth details to my e-mail. For those> who do> > > not> > > > > > > have the details:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > April 15, 1955> > > > > > > Time: 11:26:51> > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > Place: 76 E 33' 00", 9 N 16' 00"> > > > > > > Mavelikara, India> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > According to my understanding permit me> to> > > write> > > > > a> > > > > > > few lines:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Chandra is AK in the 7th and is in> kendra to> > > > > lagna.> > > > > > > Hence, let is use> > > > > > > Vimsottari Chandra Dasa. According to> this> > > you> > > > > were> > > > > > > running:> > > > > > > Guru-Chandra-Chandra- Shukra-Sani-Sani> > > period.> > > > > Guru> > > > > > > is vargottama and in> > > > > > > lagna in yuti with Ketu indicating a> > > parampara> > > > > yoga.> === message truncated ===

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|| Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

 

Hi,

 

I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who saved Rema ji.

 

Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By Your husband or By some

trainer or By Some aged person?

 

Regards,

Upendra

 

 

sohamsa , " supriti108 " <supriti108 wrote:

>

> |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,

>

> Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!

>

> I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from the same state!!!!! I

> live in Cary (near Raleigh).

>

> I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was on the right path with

the

> planetary conglomeration in Virgo. " It is quiet powerful. Me is in

> Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in Mo's nakshatra and Mo is

in

> its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct Su and Ke both in Sun's

> nakshatra. " The focus there could have been on Su or Mo.

>

> I made a mistake in saying that you were going through Ju/Su

> vimsottari dasa. You are actually going through Ju/Mo - that

misled

> me.

>

> Anways, so since you are going through Ju/Mo. Lets look at Cn. It

> hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is A8 and Rh. So all the

Jala

> Rasi is afflicted.

>

> Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji has analyzed it

correctly,

> but I am rephrazing the analysis for other learner like myself.

>

> There are more questions:

>

> 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused the accident - because Sa

> (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).

>

> 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji was rescued? exalted

AL

> lord in AL?

>

> Thanks

> Regards

> Supriti

>

> sohamsa , Rema Menon <remamenon@> wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > Dear Upendra,

> >

> > You have answered the quiz correctly.

> >

> > I drowned in the Ocean. Was kayaking on Saturday and

> > it turned windy and the kayak capsized. I was rescued,

> > but it was a horrifying experience.

> >

> > Thanks, Rema

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> >

> > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > >

> > > Have you drowned in water and somebody helped you?

> > > Reason is Both

> > > Saturn placement and A8 are in Jala Rasi.

> > >

> > > Please note that I am just looking at the transit

> > > chart on that day &

> > > time you have mentioned. I dont know if seeing an

> > > event in this way

> > > is wrong. Learned members pls correct me.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Upendra

> > >

> > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > Dear Sourav,

> > > >

> > > > You are right,I was myself curious as to how to

> > > verify

> > > > the occurance of this event. It is not possible

> > > > without absolute correct timing.

> > > >

> > > > I wish Gurus would help.

> > > >

> > > > It was an accident, but not vehicular.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Rema

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- Sourav <souravc108@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Reema-ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > namaskar.

> > > Judging

> > > > > by the responses, it

> > > > > seems like an accident (vehicular). Sani is

> > > > > transiting 8th from Chandra

> > > > > and is related to accidents (in D-16 chart).

> > > Marakas

> > > > > to the 4th house of

> > > > > D-16 are also operational. Difficulties in job

> > > > > during this dasa and

> > > > > antar (Dwisaptati) is also not ruled out. Notice

> > > > > that Shani is lord of

> > > > > the 8th from the 4th house

> > > > > (vehicles/luxuries/home/mother). So during

> > > > > this transit upon its natal position, Sani can

> > > > > damage 4th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > In general, if we are not very sure of the birth

> > > > > time (upto seconds)

> > > > > such events are difficult to single out (and

> > > > > necessarily involves

> > > > > intuition or guesswork). If you have very high

> > > > > acuracy of birth time

> > > > > (along with correct ayanaamsa), Deha antar dasas

> > > > > will indicate the

> > > > > event. Because it is not known to me, I provided

> > > you

> > > > > with choices of

> > > > > which you stated one is correct.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Sourav

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

======================================================================

> > > ==\

> > > > > =====================

> > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > Dear Supritiji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sorry, No!

> > > > > > Look at the present transist with dasa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > By the way we are from the same state(NC)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks, Rema

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- supriti108 supriti108@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > > Dear Rema ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now that Sourav has provided the birth data,

> > > I

> > > > > would

> > > > > > > like to attempt

> > > > > > > your quiz. I am following your cue. I see Me

> > > > > lord

> > > > > > > of AL and 10th

> > > > > > > from AL was in exaltation in AL at that

> > > time.

> > > > > There

> > > > > > > is a

> > > > > > > conglomeration of planets on your AL. It is

> > > > > quiet

> > > > > > > powerful. Me is

> > > > > > > in Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in

> > > Mo's

> > > > > > > nakshatra and Mo is

> > > > > > > in its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct

> > > Su

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > Ke both in Sun's

> > > > > > > nakshatra.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are running AL Narayana dasa (Virgo)!

> > > Ju/Su

> > > > > > > Vimsottari dasa (Ju

> > > > > > > is 10th lord and Su is 3rd lord)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My reading is that you gained in your job

> > > front

> > > > > -

> > > > > > > promotion/raise etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > > > remamenon@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > > Dear Sourav,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your Analysis is methodical and thorough.

> > > > > > > > But you didnot see the transists. Check

> > > that,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > think

> > > > > > > > you will get it then.

> > > > > > > > It is one of your options.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > > Rema

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- Sourav souravc108@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Reema-ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > namaskar.

> > > > > > > Thank

> > > > > > > > > you for providing the

> > > > > > > > > birth details to my e-mail. For those

> > > who do

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > have the details:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > April 15, 1955

> > > > > > > > > Time: 11:26:51

> > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > > > > Place: 76 E 33' 00 " , 9 N 16' 00 "

> > > > > > > > > Mavelikara, India

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > According to my understanding permit me

> > > to

> > > > > write

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > few lines:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Chandra is AK in the 7th and is in

> > > kendra to

> > > > > > > lagna.

> > > > > > > > > Hence, let is use

> > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Chandra Dasa. According to

> > > this

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > were

> > > > > > > > > running:

> > > > > > > > > Guru-Chandra-Chandra- Shukra-Sani-Sani

> > > > > period.

> > > > > > > Guru

> > > > > > > > > is vargottama and in

> > > > > > > > > lagna in yuti with Ketu indicating a

> > > > > parampara

> > > > > > > yoga.

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Upendra ji,

 

I was rescued by two trainers. My husband didnot know

that I had capsized because he was way ahead of me.

 

Thanks,

Rema

 

 

--- upendra_agni <upendra.agni wrote:

 

> || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

>

> Hi,

>

> I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who saved Rema

> ji.

>

> Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By Your

> husband or By some

> trainer or By Some aged person?

>

> Regards,

> Upendra

>

>

> sohamsa , " supriti108 "

> <supriti108 wrote:

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,

> >

> > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!

> >

> > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from the

> same state!!!!! I

> > live in Cary (near Raleigh).

> >

> > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was on the

> right path with

> the

> > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. " It is quiet

> powerful. Me is in

> > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in Mo's

> nakshatra and Mo is

> in

> > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct Su and Ke

> both in Sun's

> > nakshatra. " The focus there could have been on Su

> or Mo.

> >

> > I made a mistake in saying that you were going

> through Ju/Su

> > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going through

> Ju/Mo - that

> misled

> > me.

> >

> > Anways, so since you are going through Ju/Mo.

> Lets look at Cn. It

> > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is A8 and

> Rh. So all the

> Jala

> > Rasi is afflicted.

> >

> > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji has

> analyzed it

> correctly,

> > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other learner

> like myself.

> >

> > There are more questions:

> >

> > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused the

> accident - because Sa

> > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).

> >

> > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji was

> rescued? exalted

> AL

> > lord in AL?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Regards

> > Supriti

> >

> > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> <remamenon@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > Dear Upendra,

> > >

> > > You have answered the quiz correctly.

> > >

> > > I drowned in the Ocean. Was kayaking on Saturday

> and

> > > it turned windy and the kayak capsized. I was

> rescued,

> > > but it was a horrifying experience.

> > >

> > > Thanks, Rema

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > >

> > > > Have you drowned in water and somebody helped

> you?

> > > > Reason is Both

> > > > Saturn placement and A8 are in Jala Rasi.

> > > >

> > > > Please note that I am just looking at the

> transit

> > > > chart on that day &

> > > > time you have mentioned. I dont know if

> seeing an

> > > > event in this way

> > > > is wrong. Learned members pls correct me.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Upendra

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > Dear Sourav,

> > > > >

> > > > > You are right,I was myself curious as to how

> to

> > > > verify

> > > > > the occurance of this event. It is not

> possible

> > > > > without absolute correct timing.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish Gurus would help.

> > > > >

> > > > > It was an accident, but not vehicular.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Rema

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Sourav <souravc108@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Reema-ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > namaskar.

> > > > Judging

> > > > > > by the responses, it

> > > > > > seems like an accident (vehicular). Sani

> is

> > > > > > transiting 8th from Chandra

> > > > > > and is related to accidents (in D-16

> chart).

> > > > Marakas

> > > > > > to the 4th house of

> > > > > > D-16 are also operational. Difficulties in

> job

> > > > > > during this dasa and

> > > > > > antar (Dwisaptati) is also not ruled out.

> Notice

> > > > > > that Shani is lord of

> > > > > > the 8th from the 4th house

> > > > > > (vehicles/luxuries/home/mother). So during

> > > > > > this transit upon its natal position, Sani

> can

> > > > > > damage 4th house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In general, if we are not very sure of the

> birth

> > > > > > time (upto seconds)

> > > > > > such events are difficult to single out

> (and

> > > > > > necessarily involves

> > > > > > intuition or guesswork). If you have very

> high

> > > > > > acuracy of birth time

> > > > > > (along with correct ayanaamsa), Deha antar

> dasas

> > > > > > will indicate the

> > > > > > event. Because it is not known to me, I

> provided

> > > > you

> > > > > > with choices of

> > > > > > which you stated one is correct.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sourav

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

======================================================================

> > > > ==\

> > > > > > =====================

> > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > Dear Supritiji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sorry, No!

>

=== message truncated ===

 

 

 

 

 

 

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|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Dear Rema ji,

 

First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.

 

Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or female? (Ju/Ve?)

 

Thanks

Supriti

 

sohamsa , Rema Menon <remamenon wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

> Dear Upendra ji,

>

> I was rescued by two trainers. My husband didnot know

> that I had capsized because he was way ahead of me.

>

> Thanks,

> Rema

>

>

> --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni wrote:

>

> > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who saved Rema

> > ji.

> >

> > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By Your

> > husband or By some

> > trainer or By Some aged person?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Upendra

> >

> >

> > sohamsa , " supriti108 "

> > <supriti108@> wrote:

> > >

> > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,

> > >

> > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!

> > >

> > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from the

> > same state!!!!! I

> > > live in Cary (near Raleigh).

> > >

> > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was on the

> > right path with

> > the

> > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. " It is quiet

> > powerful. Me is in

> > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in Mo's

> > nakshatra and Mo is

> > in

> > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct Su and Ke

> > both in Sun's

> > > nakshatra. " The focus there could have been on Su

> > or Mo.

> > >

> > > I made a mistake in saying that you were going

> > through Ju/Su

> > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going through

> > Ju/Mo - that

> > misled

> > > me.

> > >

> > > Anways, so since you are going through Ju/Mo.

> > Lets look at Cn. It

> > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is A8 and

> > Rh. So all the

> > Jala

> > > Rasi is afflicted.

> > >

> > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji has

> > analyzed it

> > correctly,

> > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other learner

> > like myself.

> > >

> > > There are more questions:

> > >

> > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused the

> > accident - because Sa

> > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).

> > >

> > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji was

> > rescued? exalted

> > AL

> > > lord in AL?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Regards

> > > Supriti

> > >

> > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > Dear Upendra,

> > > >

> > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.

> > > >

> > > > I drowned in the Ocean. Was kayaking on Saturday

> > and

> > > > it turned windy and the kayak capsized. I was

> > rescued,

> > > > but it was a horrifying experience.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks, Rema

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > >

> > > > > Have you drowned in water and somebody helped

> > you?

> > > > > Reason is Both

> > > > > Saturn placement and A8 are in Jala Rasi.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please note that I am just looking at the

> > transit

> > > > > chart on that day &

> > > > > time you have mentioned. I dont know if

> > seeing an

> > > > > event in this way

> > > > > is wrong. Learned members pls correct me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Upendra

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > Dear Sourav,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are right,I was myself curious as to how

> > to

> > > > > verify

> > > > > > the occurance of this event. It is not

> > possible

> > > > > > without absolute correct timing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I wish Gurus would help.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It was an accident, but not vehicular.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Rema

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Sourav <souravc108@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Reema-ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > namaskar.

> > > > > Judging

> > > > > > > by the responses, it

> > > > > > > seems like an accident (vehicular). Sani

> > is

> > > > > > > transiting 8th from Chandra

> > > > > > > and is related to accidents (in D-16

> > chart).

> > > > > Marakas

> > > > > > > to the 4th house of

> > > > > > > D-16 are also operational. Difficulties in

> > job

> > > > > > > during this dasa and

> > > > > > > antar (Dwisaptati) is also not ruled out.

> > Notice

> > > > > > > that Shani is lord of

> > > > > > > the 8th from the 4th house

> > > > > > > (vehicles/luxuries/home/mother). So during

> > > > > > > this transit upon its natal position, Sani

> > can

> > > > > > > damage 4th house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In general, if we are not very sure of the

> > birth

> > > > > > > time (upto seconds)

> > > > > > > such events are difficult to single out

> > (and

> > > > > > > necessarily involves

> > > > > > > intuition or guesswork). If you have very

> > high

> > > > > > > acuracy of birth time

> > > > > > > (along with correct ayanaamsa), Deha antar

> > dasas

> > > > > > > will indicate the

> > > > > > > event. Because it is not known to me, I

> > provided

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > with choices of

> > > > > > > which you stated one is correct.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sourav

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

======================================================================

> > > > > ==\

> > > > > > > =====================

> > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > > Dear Supritiji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sorry, No!

> >

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Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Supriti ji,

 

Both were male.

 

Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me. Jupiter in

lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord Mercury was

exalted in the 4th house.

 

Thanks, Rema

 

--- supriti108 <supriti108 wrote:

 

> |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> Dear Rema ji,

>

> First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.

>

> Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or

> female? (Ju/Ve?)

>

> Thanks

> Supriti

>

> sohamsa , Rema Menon

> <remamenon wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> > Dear Upendra ji,

> >

> > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband didnot

> know

> > that I had capsized because he was way ahead of

> me.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Rema

> >

> >

> > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni wrote:

> >

> > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who saved

> Rema

> > > ji.

> > >

> > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By

> Your

> > > husband or By some

> > > trainer or By Some aged person?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Upendra

> > >

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " supriti108 "

> > > <supriti108@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,

> > > >

> > > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from the

> > > same state!!!!! I

> > > > live in Cary (near Raleigh).

> > > >

> > > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was on

> the

> > > right path with

> > > the

> > > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. " It is

> quiet

> > > powerful. Me is in

> > > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in Mo's

> > > nakshatra and Mo is

> > > in

> > > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct Su

> and Ke

> > > both in Sun's

> > > > nakshatra. " The focus there could have been

> on Su

> > > or Mo.

> > > >

> > > > I made a mistake in saying that you were going

> > > through Ju/Su

> > > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going

> through

> > > Ju/Mo - that

> > > misled

> > > > me.

> > > >

> > > > Anways, so since you are going through Ju/Mo.

> > > Lets look at Cn. It

> > > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is A8

> and

> > > Rh. So all the

> > > Jala

> > > > Rasi is afflicted.

> > > >

> > > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji has

> > > analyzed it

> > > correctly,

> > > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other

> learner

> > > like myself.

> > > >

> > > > There are more questions:

> > > >

> > > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused the

> > > accident - because Sa

> > > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).

> > > >

> > > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji was

> > > rescued? exalted

> > > AL

> > > > lord in AL?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Regards

> > > > Supriti

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > Dear Upendra,

> > > > >

> > > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.

> > > > >

> > > > > I drowned in the Ocean. Was kayaking on

> Saturday

> > > and

> > > > > it turned windy and the kayak capsized. I

> was

> > > rescued,

> > > > > but it was a horrifying experience.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks, Rema

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Have you drowned in water and somebody

> helped

> > > you?

> > > > > > Reason is Both

> > > > > > Saturn placement and A8 are in Jala Rasi.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please note that I am just looking at the

> > > transit

> > > > > > chart on that day &

> > > > > > time you have mentioned. I dont know if

> > > seeing an

> > > > > > event in this way

> > > > > > is wrong. Learned members pls correct me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Upendra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > Dear Sourav,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are right,I was myself curious as to

> how

> > > to

> > > > > > verify

> > > > > > > the occurance of this event. It is not

> > > possible

> > > > > > > without absolute correct timing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I wish Gurus would help.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It was an accident, but not vehicular.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > Rema

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- Sourav <souravc108@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Reema-ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> namaskar.

> > > > > > Judging

> > > > > > > > by the responses, it

> > > > > > > > seems like an accident (vehicular).

> Sani

> > > is

> > > > > > > > transiting 8th from Chandra

> > > > > > > > and is related to accidents (in D-16

> > > chart).

> > > > > > Marakas

> > > > > > > > to the 4th house of

> > > > > > > > D-16 are also operational.

> Difficulties in

> > > job

> > > > > > > > during this dasa and

> > > > > > > > antar (Dwisaptati) is also not ruled

> out.

>

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|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Dear Rema ji,

 

Please call me Supriti, I am younger than you.

 

Can I play devil's advocate here just to understand this. My

argument is that Su(placed in own nakshatra) and Me should be the

protectors here as they were placed in your AL at that time. Ju was

placed in a vayu rasi in 2nd from AL, so he might have helped in

keeping Vayu deva's wrath in check.

 

Please do respond, so I may understand this further.

 

Thank you.

Regards

Supriti

 

sohamsa , Rema Menon <remamenon wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krishna,

> Dear Supriti ji,

>

> Both were male.

>

> Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me. Jupiter in

> lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord Mercury was

> exalted in the 4th house.

>

> Thanks, Rema

>

> --- supriti108 <supriti108 wrote:

>

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rema ji,

> >

> > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.

> >

> > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or

> > female? (Ju/Ve?)

> >

> > Thanks

> > Supriti

> >

> > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > Dear Upendra ji,

> > >

> > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband didnot

> > know

> > > that I had capsized because he was way ahead of

> > me.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Rema

> > >

> > >

> > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who saved

> > Rema

> > > > ji.

> > > >

> > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By

> > Your

> > > > husband or By some

> > > > trainer or By Some aged person?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Upendra

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , " supriti108 "

> > > > <supriti108@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,

> > > > >

> > > > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from the

> > > > same state!!!!! I

> > > > > live in Cary (near Raleigh).

> > > > >

> > > > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was on

> > the

> > > > right path with

> > > > the

> > > > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. " It is

> > quiet

> > > > powerful. Me is in

> > > > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in Mo's

> > > > nakshatra and Mo is

> > > > in

> > > > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct Su

> > and Ke

> > > > both in Sun's

> > > > > nakshatra. " The focus there could have been

> > on Su

> > > > or Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > I made a mistake in saying that you were going

> > > > through Ju/Su

> > > > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going

> > through

> > > > Ju/Mo - that

> > > > misled

> > > > > me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anways, so since you are going through Ju/Mo.

> > > > Lets look at Cn. It

> > > > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is A8

> > and

> > > > Rh. So all the

> > > > Jala

> > > > > Rasi is afflicted.

> > > > >

> > > > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji has

> > > > analyzed it

> > > > correctly,

> > > > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other

> > learner

> > > > like myself.

> > > > >

> > > > > There are more questions:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused the

> > > > accident - because Sa

> > > > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji was

> > > > rescued? exalted

> > > > AL

> > > > > lord in AL?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Supriti

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > Dear Upendra,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I drowned in the Ocean. Was kayaking on

> > Saturday

> > > > and

> > > > > > it turned windy and the kayak capsized. I

> > was

> > > > rescued,

> > > > > > but it was a horrifying experience.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks, Rema

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Have you drowned in water and somebody

> > helped

> > > > you?

> > > > > > > Reason is Both

> > > > > > > Saturn placement and A8 are in Jala Rasi.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please note that I am just looking at the

> > > > transit

> > > > > > > chart on that day &

> > > > > > > time you have mentioned. I dont know if

> > > > seeing an

> > > > > > > event in this way

> > > > > > > is wrong. Learned members pls correct me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Upendra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > > Dear Sourav,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You are right,I was myself curious as to

> > how

> > > > to

> > > > > > > verify

> > > > > > > > the occurance of this event. It is not

> > > > possible

> > > > > > > > without absolute correct timing.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I wish Gurus would help.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It was an accident, but not vehicular.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > > Rema

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- Sourav <souravc108@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Reema-ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > namaskar.

> > > > > > > Judging

> > > > > > > > > by the responses, it

> > > > > > > > > seems like an accident (vehicular).

> > Sani

> > > > is

> > > > > > > > > transiting 8th from Chandra

> > > > > > > > > and is related to accidents (in D-16

> > > > chart).

> > > > > > > Marakas

> > > > > > > > > to the 4th house of

> > > > > > > > > D-16 are also operational.

> > Difficulties in

> > > > job

> > > > > > > > > during this dasa and

> > > > > > > > > antar (Dwisaptati) is also not ruled

> > out.

> >

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|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

 

Dear Rema,

Sorry to hear that you had to go through this experience. Good that there was this invisible hand of God to protect you.

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rema MenonWednesday, September 27, 2006 9:08 AMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Quiz:

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna,Dear Supriti ji, Both were male.Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me. Jupiter inlagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord Mercury wasexalted in the 4th house.Thanks, Rema--- supriti108 <supriti108 > wrote:> |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> Dear Rema ji,> > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.> > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or> female? (Ju/Ve?)> > Thanks> Supriti> > sohamsa , Rema Menon> <remamenon wrote:> >> > Hare Rama Krishna> > Dear Upendra ji,> > > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband didnot> know> > that I had capsized because he was way ahead of> me. > > > > Thanks, > > Rema> > > > > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni wrote:> > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||> > > > > > Hi,> > > > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who saved> Rema> > > ji. > > > > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By> Your> > > husband or By some > > > trainer or By Some aged person?> > > > > > Regards,> > > Upendra> > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "supriti108"> > > <supriti108@> wrote:> > > >> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> > > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,> > > > > > > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!> > > > > > > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from the> > > same state!!!!! I > > > > live in Cary (near Raleigh). > > > > > > > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was on> the> > > right path with > > > the > > > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. "It is> quiet> > > powerful. Me is in > > > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in Mo's> > > nakshatra and Mo is > > > in > > > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct Su> and Ke> > > both in Sun's > > > > nakshatra." The focus there could have been> on Su> > > or Mo. > > > > > > > > I made a mistake in saying that you were going> > > through Ju/Su > > > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going> through> > > Ju/Mo - that > > > misled > > > > me.> > > > > > > > Anways, so since you are going through Ju/Mo. > > > Lets look at Cn. It > > > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is A8> and> > > Rh. So all the > > > Jala > > > > Rasi is afflicted. > > > > > > > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji has> > > analyzed it > > > correctly, > > > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other> learner> > > like myself.> > > > > > > > There are more questions:> > > > > > > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused the> > > accident - because Sa> > > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).> > > > > > > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji was> > > rescued? exalted > > > AL > > > > lord in AL?> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > Regards> > > > Supriti> > > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon> > > <remamenon@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > > Dear Upendra,> > > > > > > > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.> > > > > > > > > > I drowned in the Ocean. Was kayaking on> Saturday> > > and> > > > > it turned windy and the kayak capsized. I> was> > > rescued,> > > > > but it was a horrifying experience.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Rema> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||> > > > > > > > > > > > Have you drowned in water and somebody> helped> > > you?> > > > > > Reason is Both > > > > > > Saturn placement and A8 are in Jala Rasi.> > > > > > > > > > > > Please note that I am just looking at the> > > transit> > > > > > chart on that day & > > > > > > time you have mentioned. I dont know if> > > seeing an> > > > > > event in this way > > > > > > is wrong. Learned members pls correct me.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Upendra> > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon> > > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > > > > Dear Sourav,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right,I was myself curious as to> how> > > to> > > > > > verify> > > > > > > the occurance of this event. It is not> > > possible> > > > > > > without absolute correct timing.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish Gurus would help.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was an accident, but not vehicular. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Rema> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Sourav <souravc108@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Reema-ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > namaskar.> > > > > > Judging> > > > > > > > by the responses, it> > > > > > > > seems like an accident (vehicular).> Sani> > > is> > > > > > > > transiting 8th from Chandra> > > > > > > > and is related to accidents (in D-16> > > chart).> > > > > > Marakas> > > > > > > > to the 4th house of> > > > > > > > D-16 are also operational.> Difficulties in> > > job> > > > > > > > during this dasa and> > > > > > > > antar (Dwisaptati) is also not ruled> out.> === message truncated ===

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|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

Dear Rema-ji,

namaskar. In your Navamsa, Meena is rising in Lagnabhava. This indicates inherent danger from water. So please be careful.

Next, in your Rasi Chart, the three benefics Chandra, Guru and Surya are in vargottama and very strong. They are also under curses - Guru is conjoining a malefic and aspected by Rahu constituting Brahmin Shaapa, Chandra is conjoined by a malefic and aspected by Sani and Mangal, and, Surya is aspected by Rahu and Sani. AK and 8th lord and Badhakasthana are involved in all of them. Being a higher benefic, Brahmin shaapa is stronger. However, Chandra is AK and is under three malefic influences, hence Matri Shaapa is also strong. Shani is vakri and 8th lord and in exchange with 5th lord. Some mantra based remedies will work. You are under Sani-Sukra period per Moola Dasa.

Ketu is in own house in 12-th from KK aspected by exalted Surya who is in very high Vaisesikaamsa and happens to be Guru Devata - Sri Raama. Please worship Sri Raama and Sri Ganesha and Matsya avataara of Sri Vishnu. Please notice that there is a strong Pitri and Preta Dosha in the Dwadasaamsa Chakra with Mangal and Sani in the nodal axis. Please worship as indicated and perform remedies for the Shaapas and Doshas. Your Ishtadevata has saved you.

Best wishes,

Sourav

================================================================sohamsa , Rema Menon <remamenon wrote:>> Hare Rama Krishna,> Dear Supriti ji, > > Both were male.> > Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me. Jupiter in> lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord Mercury was> exalted in the 4th house.> > Thanks, Rema> > --- supriti108 supriti108 wrote:> > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> > Dear Rema ji,> > > > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.> > > > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or> > female? (Ju/Ve?)> > > > Thanks> > Supriti> > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon> > remamenon@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > Dear Upendra ji,> > > > > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband didnot> > know> > > that I had capsized because he was way ahead of> > me. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Rema> > > > > > > > > --- upendra_agni upendra.agni@ wrote:> > > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||> > > > > > > > Hi,> > > > > > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who saved> > Rema> > > > ji. > > > > > > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By> > Your> > > > husband or By some > > > > trainer or By Some aged person?> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Upendra> > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "supriti108"> > > > <supriti108@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> > > > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,> > > > > > > > > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!> > > > > > > > > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from the> > > > same state!!!!! I > > > > > live in Cary (near Raleigh). > > > > > > > > > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was on> > the> > > > right path with > > > > the > > > > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. "It is> > quiet> > > > powerful. Me is in > > > > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in Mo's> > > > nakshatra and Mo is > > > > in > > > > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct Su> > and Ke> > > > both in Sun's > > > > > nakshatra." The focus there could have been> > on Su> > > > or Mo. > > > > > > > > > > I made a mistake in saying that you were going> > > > through Ju/Su > > > > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going> > through> > > > Ju/Mo - that > > > > misled > > > > > me.> > > > > > > > > > Anways, so since you are going through Ju/Mo. > > > > Lets look at Cn. It > > > > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is A8> > and> > > > Rh. So all the > > > > Jala > > > > > Rasi is afflicted. > > > > > > > > > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji has> > > > analyzed it > > > > correctly, > > > > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other> > learner> > > > like myself.> > > > > > > > > > There are more questions:> > > > > > > > > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused the> > > > accident - because Sa> > > > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).> > > > > > > > > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji was> > > > rescued? exalted > > > > AL > > > > > lord in AL?> > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > Regards> > > > > Supriti> > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon> > > > <remamenon@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > > > Dear Upendra,> > > > > > > > > > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.> > > > > > > > > > > > I drowned in the Ocean. Was kayaking on> > Saturday> > > > and> > > > > > it turned windy and the kayak capsized. I> > was> > > > rescued,> > > > > > but it was a horrifying experience.> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Rema> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you drowned in water and somebody> > helped> > > > you?> > > > > > > Reason is Both > > > > > > > Saturn placement and A8 are in Jala Rasi.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note that I am just looking at the> > > > transit> > > > > > > chart on that day & > > > > > > > time you have mentioned. I dont know if> > > > seeing an> > > > > > > event in this way > > > > > > > is wrong. Learned members pls correct me.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Upendra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon> > > > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > > > > > Dear Sourav,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right,I was myself curious as to> > how> > > > to> > > > > > > verify> > > > > > > > the occurance of this event. It is not> > > > possible> > > > > > > > without absolute correct timing.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish Gurus would help.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was an accident, but not vehicular. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Rema> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Sourav <souravc108@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Reema-ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > namaskar.> > > > > > > Judging> > > > > > > > > by the responses, it> > > > > > > > > seems like an accident (vehicular).> > Sani> > > > is> > > > > > > > > transiting 8th from Chandra> > > > > > > > > and is related to accidents (in D-16> > > > chart).> > > > > > > Marakas> > > > > > > > > to the 4th house of> > > > > > > > > D-16 are also operational.> > Difficulties in> > > > job> > > > > > > > > during this dasa and> > > > > > > > > antar (Dwisaptati) is also not ruled> > out.> > > === message truncated ===> > > > > > >

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Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Supriti,

 

Jupiter is in my lagna, I believe he will alwys save.

Even if that was in way of checking the Wind to some

extent.

 

I am not discounting your point about Sun and Mercury.

 

 

The day earlier, the 22nd was eclipse, Moon was with

Sun afflicted by Rahu, Mars and Saturn. Moon is my

antardasa lord. Something bad was to happen. But being

in Virgo an earth sign and 4th house (vehicles or

home)I had a hard time understanding the water based

accident.

 

Thanks,

Rema

 

--- supriti108 <supriti108 wrote:

 

> |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> Dear Rema ji,

>

> Please call me Supriti, I am younger than you.

>

> Can I play devil's advocate here just to understand

> this. My

> argument is that Su(placed in own nakshatra) and Me

> should be the

> protectors here as they were placed in your AL at

> that time. Ju was

> placed in a vayu rasi in 2nd from AL, so he might

> have helped in

> keeping Vayu deva's wrath in check.

>

> Please do respond, so I may understand this further.

>

> Thank you.

> Regards

> Supriti

>

> sohamsa , Rema Menon

> <remamenon wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > Dear Supriti ji,

> >

> > Both were male.

> >

> > Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me. Jupiter in

> > lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord Mercury

> was

> > exalted in the 4th house.

> >

> > Thanks, Rema

> >

> > --- supriti108 <supriti108 wrote:

> >

> > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > Dear Rema ji,

> > >

> > > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.

> > >

> > > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or

> > > female? (Ju/Ve?)

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Supriti

> > >

> > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > Dear Upendra ji,

> > > >

> > > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband

> didnot

> > > know

> > > > that I had capsized because he was way ahead

> of

> > > me.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Rema

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who

> saved

> > > Rema

> > > > > ji.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By

> > > Your

> > > > > husband or By some

> > > > > trainer or By Some aged person?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Upendra

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , " supriti108 "

> > > > > <supriti108@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from

> the

> > > > > same state!!!!! I

> > > > > > live in Cary (near Raleigh).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was

> on

> > > the

> > > > > right path with

> > > > > the

> > > > > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. " It is

> > > quiet

> > > > > powerful. Me is in

> > > > > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in

> Mo's

> > > > > nakshatra and Mo is

> > > > > in

> > > > > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct

> Su

> > > and Ke

> > > > > both in Sun's

> > > > > > nakshatra. " The focus there could have

> been

> > > on Su

> > > > > or Mo.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I made a mistake in saying that you were

> going

> > > > > through Ju/Su

> > > > > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going

> > > through

> > > > > Ju/Mo - that

> > > > > misled

> > > > > > me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anways, so since you are going through

> Ju/Mo.

> > > > > Lets look at Cn. It

> > > > > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is

> A8

> > > and

> > > > > Rh. So all the

> > > > > Jala

> > > > > > Rasi is afflicted.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji

> has

> > > > > analyzed it

> > > > > correctly,

> > > > > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other

> > > learner

> > > > > like myself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There are more questions:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused

> the

> > > > > accident - because Sa

> > > > > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji

> was

> > > > > rescued? exalted

> > > > > AL

> > > > > > lord in AL?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa , Rema

> Menon

> > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > Dear Upendra,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I drowned in the Ocean. Was kayaking on

> > > Saturday

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > it turned windy and the kayak capsized.

> I

> > > was

> > > > > rescued,

> > > > > > > but it was a horrifying experience.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks, Rema

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Have you drowned in water and somebody

> > > helped

> > > > > you?

> > > > > > > > Reason is Both

> > > > > > > > Saturn placement and A8 are in Jala

> Rasi.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please note that I am just looking at

> the

> > > > > transit

>

=== message truncated ===

 

 

 

 

 

 

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HareRama Krishna,

Dear Sourav ji,

 

Yes, you are right about the curses. And I was worried

from the time Moon antar started because Matri shapa

is there. The gaja kesari which is there in every

varga chart cannot be manifested due to the shapa on

Moon.

 

But I am not very sure about Brahman shapa, Jupiter is

aspected by Rahu. Only if 2 or more malefics aspect a

benefic there is shapa. I am not sure if Ketu would

be considered a malefic in this case. I may be wrong.

 

I do have another question for you, Shani is vakri,

the 8th lord, how will this help in mantra remedies?

Dont you think being vakri and exalted, the effects

would be reversed?

 

People who are researching eclipse effects may take my

case for study. This incident happened a day after the

lunar eclipse.

 

Thanks,

Rema

 

 

 

 

--- Sourav <souravc108 wrote:

 

>

> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Rema-ji,

>

> namaskar. In your

> Navamsa, Meena is rising

> in Lagnabhava. This indicates inherent danger from

> water. So please be

> careful.

>

> Next, in your Rasi Chart, the three benefics

> Chandra, Guru and Surya are

> in vargottama and very strong. They are also under

> curses - Guru is

> conjoining a malefic and aspected by Rahu

> constituting Brahmin Shaapa,

> Chandra is conjoined by a malefic and aspected by

> Sani and Mangal, and,

> Surya is aspected by Rahu and Sani. AK and 8th lord

> and Badhakasthana

> are involved in all of them. Being a higher benefic,

> Brahmin shaapa is

> stronger. However, Chandra is AK and is under three

> malefic influences,

> hence Matri Shaapa is also strong. Shani is vakri

> and 8th lord and in

> exchange with 5th lord. Some mantra based remedies

> will work. You are

> under Sani-Sukra period per Moola Dasa.

>

> Ketu is in own house in 12-th from KK aspected by

> exalted Surya who is

> in very high Vaisesikaamsa and happens to be Guru

> Devata - Sri Raama.

> Please worship Sri Raama and Sri Ganesha and Matsya

> avataara of Sri

> Vishnu. Please notice that there is a strong Pitri

> and Preta Dosha in

> the Dwadasaamsa Chakra with Mangal and Sani in the

> nodal axis. Please

> worship as indicated and perform remedies for the

> Shaapas and Doshas.

> Your Ishtadevata has saved you.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

>

================================================================

> sohamsa , Rema Menon

> <remamenon wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > Dear Supriti ji,

> >

> > Both were male.

> >

> > Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me. Jupiter in

> > lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord Mercury

> was

> > exalted in the 4th house.

> >

> > Thanks, Rema

> >

> > --- supriti108 supriti108 wrote:

> >

> > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > Dear Rema ji,

> > >

> > > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.

> > >

> > > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or

> > > female? (Ju/Ve?)

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Supriti

> > >

> > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > remamenon@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > Dear Upendra ji,

> > > >

> > > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband

> didnot

> > > know

> > > > that I had capsized because he was way ahead

> of

> > > me.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Rema

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- upendra_agni upendra.agni@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who

> saved

> > > Rema

> > > > > ji.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By

> > > Your

> > > > > husband or By some

> > > > > trainer or By Some aged person?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Upendra

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , " supriti108 "

> > > > > <supriti108@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from

> the

> > > > > same state!!!!! I

> > > > > > live in Cary (near Raleigh).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was

> on

> > > the

> > > > > right path with

> > > > > the

> > > > > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. " It is

> > > quiet

> > > > > powerful. Me is in

> > > > > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in

> Mo's

> > > > > nakshatra and Mo is

> > > > > in

> > > > > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct

> Su

> > > and Ke

> > > > > both in Sun's

> > > > > > nakshatra. " The focus there could have

> been

> > > on Su

> > > > > or Mo.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I made a mistake in saying that you were

> going

> > > > > through Ju/Su

> > > > > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going

> > > through

> > > > > Ju/Mo - that

> > > > > misled

> > > > > > me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anways, so since you are going through

> Ju/Mo.

> > > > > Lets look at Cn. It

> > > > > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is

> A8

> > > and

> > > > > Rh. So all the

> > > > > Jala

> > > > > > Rasi is afflicted.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji

> has

> > > > > analyzed it

> > > > > correctly,

> > > > > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other

> > > learner

> > > > > like myself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There are more questions:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused

> the

> > > > > accident - because Sa

> > > > > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji

> was

> > > > > rescued? exalted

> > > > > AL

> > > > > > lord in AL?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > Dear Upendra,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.

> > > > > > >

>

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Dear Rema ji,

 

Thank you for sharing your experience.

 

God is there with you. So remember HIM more. May HE always be with

you.

 

Regards

Supriti

 

sohamsa , Rema Menon <remamenon wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krishna,

> Dear Supriti,

>

> Jupiter is in my lagna, I believe he will alwys save.

> Even if that was in way of checking the Wind to some

> extent.

>

> I am not discounting your point about Sun and Mercury.

>

>

> The day earlier, the 22nd was eclipse, Moon was with

> Sun afflicted by Rahu, Mars and Saturn. Moon is my

> antardasa lord. Something bad was to happen. But being

> in Virgo an earth sign and 4th house (vehicles or

> home)I had a hard time understanding the water based

> accident.

>

> Thanks,

> Rema

>

> --- supriti108 <supriti108 wrote:

>

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rema ji,

> >

> > Please call me Supriti, I am younger than you.

> >

> > Can I play devil's advocate here just to understand

> > this. My

> > argument is that Su(placed in own nakshatra) and Me

> > should be the

> > protectors here as they were placed in your AL at

> > that time. Ju was

> > placed in a vayu rasi in 2nd from AL, so he might

> > have helped in

> > keeping Vayu deva's wrath in check.

> >

> > Please do respond, so I may understand this further.

> >

> > Thank you.

> > Regards

> > Supriti

> >

> > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > Dear Supriti ji,

> > >

> > > Both were male.

> > >

> > > Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me. Jupiter in

> > > lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord Mercury

> > was

> > > exalted in the 4th house.

> > >

> > > Thanks, Rema

> > >

> > > --- supriti108 <supriti108@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > Dear Rema ji,

> > > >

> > > > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.

> > > >

> > > > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or

> > > > female? (Ju/Ve?)

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Supriti

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > Dear Upendra ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband

> > didnot

> > > > know

> > > > > that I had capsized because he was way ahead

> > of

> > > > me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Rema

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who

> > saved

> > > > Rema

> > > > > > ji.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By

> > > > Your

> > > > > > husband or By some

> > > > > > trainer or By Some aged person?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Upendra

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa , " supriti108 "

> > > > > > <supriti108@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from

> > the

> > > > > > same state!!!!! I

> > > > > > > live in Cary (near Raleigh).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was

> > on

> > > > the

> > > > > > right path with

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. " It is

> > > > quiet

> > > > > > powerful. Me is in

> > > > > > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in

> > Mo's

> > > > > > nakshatra and Mo is

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct

> > Su

> > > > and Ke

> > > > > > both in Sun's

> > > > > > > nakshatra. " The focus there could have

> > been

> > > > on Su

> > > > > > or Mo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I made a mistake in saying that you were

> > going

> > > > > > through Ju/Su

> > > > > > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going

> > > > through

> > > > > > Ju/Mo - that

> > > > > > misled

> > > > > > > me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Anways, so since you are going through

> > Ju/Mo.

> > > > > > Lets look at Cn. It

> > > > > > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is

> > A8

> > > > and

> > > > > > Rh. So all the

> > > > > > Jala

> > > > > > > Rasi is afflicted.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji

> > has

> > > > > > analyzed it

> > > > > > correctly,

> > > > > > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other

> > > > learner

> > > > > > like myself.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There are more questions:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused

> > the

> > > > > > accident - because Sa

> > > > > > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji

> > was

> > > > > > rescued? exalted

> > > > > > AL

> > > > > > > lord in AL?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema

> > Menon

> > > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > > Dear Upendra,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I drowned in the Ocean. Was kayaking on

> > > > Saturday

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > it turned windy and the kayak capsized.

> > I

> > > > was

> > > > > > rescued,

> > > > > > > > but it was a horrifying experience.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks, Rema

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Have you drowned in water and somebody

> > > > helped

> > > > > > you?

> > > > > > > > > Reason is Both

> > > > > > > > > Saturn placement and A8 are in Jala

> > Rasi.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please note that I am just looking at

> > the

> > > > > > transit

> >

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Dear Rema ji,

 

Although you have addressed this to SOurav, I'd like to comment. That

way maybe others will comment on my analysis and I'll learn something

new.

 

I don't see a brahmin shaapa, I see only curse on Moon. Although AK

and 8th lord is involved, there is no rasi drishti only graha

drishti. So the curse will have effects only for a certain time

period.

 

Also, I see that you have Ju and Ke in A5 in lagna, so Mantra Japa

should work very well. Also, Ju is vargottama!!

 

Regards

Supriti

 

sohamsa , Rema Menon <remamenon wrote:

>

> HareRama Krishna,

> Dear Sourav ji,

>

> Yes, you are right about the curses. And I was worried

> from the time Moon antar started because Matri shapa

> is there. The gaja kesari which is there in every

> varga chart cannot be manifested due to the shapa on

> Moon.

>

> But I am not very sure about Brahman shapa, Jupiter is

> aspected by Rahu. Only if 2 or more malefics aspect a

> benefic there is shapa. I am not sure if Ketu would

> be considered a malefic in this case. I may be wrong.

>

> I do have another question for you, Shani is vakri,

> the 8th lord, how will this help in mantra remedies?

> Dont you think being vakri and exalted, the effects

> would be reversed?

>

> People who are researching eclipse effects may take my

> case for study. This incident happened a day after the

> lunar eclipse.

>

> Thanks,

> Rema

>

>

>

>

> --- Sourav <souravc108 wrote:

>

> >

> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Rema-ji,

> >

> > namaskar. In your

> > Navamsa, Meena is rising

> > in Lagnabhava. This indicates inherent danger from

> > water. So please be

> > careful.

> >

> > Next, in your Rasi Chart, the three benefics

> > Chandra, Guru and Surya are

> > in vargottama and very strong. They are also under

> > curses - Guru is

> > conjoining a malefic and aspected by Rahu

> > constituting Brahmin Shaapa,

> > Chandra is conjoined by a malefic and aspected by

> > Sani and Mangal, and,

> > Surya is aspected by Rahu and Sani. AK and 8th lord

> > and Badhakasthana

> > are involved in all of them. Being a higher benefic,

> > Brahmin shaapa is

> > stronger. However, Chandra is AK and is under three

> > malefic influences,

> > hence Matri Shaapa is also strong. Shani is vakri

> > and 8th lord and in

> > exchange with 5th lord. Some mantra based remedies

> > will work. You are

> > under Sani-Sukra period per Moola Dasa.

> >

> > Ketu is in own house in 12-th from KK aspected by

> > exalted Surya who is

> > in very high Vaisesikaamsa and happens to be Guru

> > Devata - Sri Raama.

> > Please worship Sri Raama and Sri Ganesha and Matsya

> > avataara of Sri

> > Vishnu. Please notice that there is a strong Pitri

> > and Preta Dosha in

> > the Dwadasaamsa Chakra with Mangal and Sani in the

> > nodal axis. Please

> > worship as indicated and perform remedies for the

> > Shaapas and Doshas.

> > Your Ishtadevata has saved you.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> >

> ================================================================

> > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > Dear Supriti ji,

> > >

> > > Both were male.

> > >

> > > Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me. Jupiter in

> > > lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord Mercury

> > was

> > > exalted in the 4th house.

> > >

> > > Thanks, Rema

> > >

> > > --- supriti108 supriti108@ wrote:

> > >

> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > Dear Rema ji,

> > > >

> > > > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.

> > > >

> > > > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or

> > > > female? (Ju/Ve?)

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Supriti

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > remamenon@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > Dear Upendra ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband

> > didnot

> > > > know

> > > > > that I had capsized because he was way ahead

> > of

> > > > me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Rema

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- upendra_agni upendra.agni@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who

> > saved

> > > > Rema

> > > > > > ji.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By

> > > > Your

> > > > > > husband or By some

> > > > > > trainer or By Some aged person?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Upendra

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa , " supriti108 "

> > > > > > <supriti108@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from

> > the

> > > > > > same state!!!!! I

> > > > > > > live in Cary (near Raleigh).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was

> > on

> > > > the

> > > > > > right path with

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. " It is

> > > > quiet

> > > > > > powerful. Me is in

> > > > > > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in

> > Mo's

> > > > > > nakshatra and Mo is

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct

> > Su

> > > > and Ke

> > > > > > both in Sun's

> > > > > > > nakshatra. " The focus there could have

> > been

> > > > on Su

> > > > > > or Mo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I made a mistake in saying that you were

> > going

> > > > > > through Ju/Su

> > > > > > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going

> > > > through

> > > > > > Ju/Mo - that

> > > > > > misled

> > > > > > > me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Anways, so since you are going through

> > Ju/Mo.

> > > > > > Lets look at Cn. It

> > > > > > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is

> > A8

> > > > and

> > > > > > Rh. So all the

> > > > > > Jala

> > > > > > > Rasi is afflicted.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji

> > has

> > > > > > analyzed it

> > > > > > correctly,

> > > > > > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other

> > > > learner

> > > > > > like myself.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There are more questions:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused

> > the

> > > > > > accident - because Sa

> > > > > > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji

> > was

> > > > > > rescued? exalted

> > > > > > AL

> > > > > > > lord in AL?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > > Dear Upendra,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.

> > > > > > > >

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Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Supriti,

That is good to hear. My doubt still stands regarding

the retro Sat, because once I had started a japa and

it got discontinued.

Thanks, Rema

 

 

--- supriti108 <supriti108 wrote:

 

> |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> Dear Rema ji,

>

> Although you have addressed this to SOurav, I'd like

> to comment. That

> way maybe others will comment on my analysis and

> I'll learn something

> new.

>

> I don't see a brahmin shaapa, I see only curse on

> Moon. Although AK

> and 8th lord is involved, there is no rasi drishti

> only graha

> drishti. So the curse will have effects only for a

> certain time

> period.

>

> Also, I see that you have Ju and Ke in A5 in lagna,

> so Mantra Japa

> should work very well. Also, Ju is vargottama!!

>

> Regards

> Supriti

>

> sohamsa , Rema Menon

> <remamenon wrote:

> >

> > HareRama Krishna,

> > Dear Sourav ji,

> >

> > Yes, you are right about the curses. And I was

> worried

> > from the time Moon antar started because Matri

> shapa

> > is there. The gaja kesari which is there in every

> > varga chart cannot be manifested due to the shapa

> on

> > Moon.

> >

> > But I am not very sure about Brahman shapa,

> Jupiter is

> > aspected by Rahu. Only if 2 or more malefics

> aspect a

> > benefic there is shapa. I am not sure if Ketu

> would

> > be considered a malefic in this case. I may be

> wrong.

> >

> > I do have another question for you, Shani is

> vakri,

> > the 8th lord, how will this help in mantra

> remedies?

> > Dont you think being vakri and exalted, the

> effects

> > would be reversed?

> >

> > People who are researching eclipse effects may

> take my

> > case for study. This incident happened a day after

> the

> > lunar eclipse.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Rema

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Sourav <souravc108 wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Rema-ji,

> > >

> > > namaskar. In your

> > > Navamsa, Meena is rising

> > > in Lagnabhava. This indicates inherent danger

> from

> > > water. So please be

> > > careful.

> > >

> > > Next, in your Rasi Chart, the three benefics

> > > Chandra, Guru and Surya are

> > > in vargottama and very strong. They are also

> under

> > > curses - Guru is

> > > conjoining a malefic and aspected by Rahu

> > > constituting Brahmin Shaapa,

> > > Chandra is conjoined by a malefic and aspected

> by

> > > Sani and Mangal, and,

> > > Surya is aspected by Rahu and Sani. AK and 8th

> lord

> > > and Badhakasthana

> > > are involved in all of them. Being a higher

> benefic,

> > > Brahmin shaapa is

> > > stronger. However, Chandra is AK and is under

> three

> > > malefic influences,

> > > hence Matri Shaapa is also strong. Shani is

> vakri

> > > and 8th lord and in

> > > exchange with 5th lord. Some mantra based

> remedies

> > > will work. You are

> > > under Sani-Sukra period per Moola Dasa.

> > >

> > > Ketu is in own house in 12-th from KK aspected

> by

> > > exalted Surya who is

> > > in very high Vaisesikaamsa and happens to be

> Guru

> > > Devata - Sri Raama.

> > > Please worship Sri Raama and Sri Ganesha and

> Matsya

> > > avataara of Sri

> > > Vishnu. Please notice that there is a strong

> Pitri

> > > and Preta Dosha in

> > > the Dwadasaamsa Chakra with Mangal and Sani in

> the

> > > nodal axis. Please

> > > worship as indicated and perform remedies for

> the

> > > Shaapas and Doshas.

> > > Your Ishtadevata has saved you.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Sourav

> > >

> > >

> >

>

================================================================

> > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > Dear Supriti ji,

> > > >

> > > > Both were male.

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me.

> Jupiter in

> > > > lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord

> Mercury

> > > was

> > > > exalted in the 4th house.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks, Rema

> > > >

> > > > --- supriti108 supriti108@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > Dear Rema ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers

> male or

> > > > > female? (Ju/Ve?)

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Supriti

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > remamenon@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > Dear Upendra ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband

> > > didnot

> > > > > know

> > > > > > that I had capsized because he was way

> ahead

> > > of

> > > > > me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Rema

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- upendra_agni upendra.agni@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus

> who

> > > saved

> > > > > Rema

> > > > > > > ji.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued

> you? By

> > > > > Your

> > > > > > > husband or By some

>

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|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

Dear Rema-ji and Supriti-ji,

namaskar. Please refer to Sanjay-ji's lecture. There is indeed Brahmin Shaapa as Guru is conjoining Ketu (malefic) and aspected by Rahu (malefic). This is a strong curse in combination with matri Shaapa as they involve rasi drishti also. Further Guru and Chandra are vargottama indicating that a high Brahmin has given this curse. Also notice that Guru is Badhaka and conjoins nodal axis and Mangal is posited in the 12-th from Badhakesha. This indicates improper maintenance of Idol worshipped in the last life (Mangal-breakage) and this dosha needs to be remedied. Because Sukra is 5th lord in exchange with Sani, mantra remedies will work but after effort (varki 8th lord). Make sure you read the curse lecture (in the Files section of this group) and Badhaka lecture in Sanjay-ji's website and in his recently published book.

Please perform the remedies I suggested before and the remedies of Badhaka as per Sanjay-ji's lecture.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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sohamsa , "supriti108" <supriti108 wrote:>> |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> Dear Rema ji,> > Although you have addressed this to SOurav, I'd like to comment. That > way maybe others will comment on my analysis and I'll learn something > new.> > I don't see a brahmin shaapa, I see only curse on Moon. Although AK > and 8th lord is involved, there is no rasi drishti only graha > drishti. So the curse will have effects only for a certain time > period.> > Also, I see that you have Ju and Ke in A5 in lagna, so Mantra Japa > should work very well. Also, Ju is vargottama!!> > Regards> Supriti> > sohamsa , Rema Menon remamenon@ wrote:> >> > HareRama Krishna,> > Dear Sourav ji,> > > > Yes, you are right about the curses. And I was worried> > from the time Moon antar started because Matri shapa> > is there. The gaja kesari which is there in every> > varga chart cannot be manifested due to the shapa on> > Moon.> > > > But I am not very sure about Brahman shapa, Jupiter is> > aspected by Rahu. Only if 2 or more malefics aspect a> > benefic there is shapa. I am not sure if Ketu would> > be considered a malefic in this case. I may be wrong.> > > > I do have another question for you, Shani is vakri,> > the 8th lord, how will this help in mantra remedies?> > Dont you think being vakri and exalted, the effects> > would be reversed?> > > > People who are researching eclipse effects may take my> > case for study. This incident happened a day after the> > lunar eclipse. > > > > Thanks, > > Rema> > > > > > > > > > --- Sourav souravc108@ wrote:> > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > > > Dear Rema-ji,> > > > > > namaskar. In your> > > Navamsa, Meena is rising> > > in Lagnabhava. This indicates inherent danger from> > > water. So please be> > > careful.> > > > > > Next, in your Rasi Chart, the three benefics> > > Chandra, Guru and Surya are> > > in vargottama and very strong. They are also under> > > curses - Guru is> > > conjoining a malefic and aspected by Rahu> > > constituting Brahmin Shaapa,> > > Chandra is conjoined by a malefic and aspected by> > > Sani and Mangal, and,> > > Surya is aspected by Rahu and Sani. AK and 8th lord > > > and Badhakasthana> > > are involved in all of them. Being a higher benefic,> > > Brahmin shaapa is> > > stronger. However, Chandra is AK and is under three> > > malefic influences,> > > hence Matri Shaapa is also strong. Shani is vakri> > > and 8th lord and in> > > exchange with 5th lord. Some mantra based remedies> > > will work. You are> > > under Sani-Sukra period per Moola Dasa.> > > > > > Ketu is in own house in 12-th from KK aspected by> > > exalted Surya who is> > > in very high Vaisesikaamsa and happens to be Guru> > > Devata - Sri Raama.> > > Please worship Sri Raama and Sri Ganesha and Matsya> > > avataara of Sri> > > Vishnu. Please notice that there is a strong Pitri> > > and Preta Dosha in> > > the Dwadasaamsa Chakra with Mangal and Sani in the> > > nodal axis. Please> > > worship as indicated and perform remedies for the> > > Shaapas and Doshas.> > > Your Ishtadevata has saved you.> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > Sourav> > > > > >> > ================================================================> > > sohamsa , Rema Menon> > > <remamenon@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > Dear Supriti ji,> > > >> > > > Both were male.> > > >> > > > Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me. Jupiter in> > > > lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord Mercury> > > was> > > > exalted in the 4th house.> > > >> > > > Thanks, Rema> > > >> > > > --- supriti108 supriti108@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> > > > > Dear Rema ji,> > > > >> > > > > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.> > > > >> > > > > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or> > > > > female? (Ju/Ve?)> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Supriti> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon> > > > > remamenon@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > > > Dear Upendra ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband> > > didnot> > > > > know> > > > > > that I had capsized because he was way ahead> > > of> > > > > me.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > Rema> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- upendra_agni upendra.agni@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who> > > saved> > > > > Rema> > > > > > > ji.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By> > > > > Your> > > > > > > husband or By some> > > > > > > trainer or By Some aged person?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Upendra> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sohamsa , "supriti108"> > > > > > > <supriti108@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> > > > > > > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from> > > the> > > > > > > same state!!!!! I> > > > > > > > live in Cary (near Raleigh).> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was> > > on> > > > > the> > > > > > > right path with> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. "It is> > > > > quiet> > > > > > > powerful. Me is in> > > > > > > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in> > > Mo's> > > > > > > nakshatra and Mo is> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct> > > Su> > > > > and Ke> > > > > > > both in Sun's> > > > > > > > nakshatra." The focus there could have> > > been> > > > > on Su> > > > > > > or Mo.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I made a mistake in saying that you were> > > going> > > > > > > through Ju/Su> > > > > > > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going> > > > > through> > > > > > > Ju/Mo - that> > > > > > > misled> > > > > > > > me.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Anways, so since you are going through> > > Ju/Mo.> > > > > > > Lets look at Cn. It> > > > > > > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is> > > A8> > > > > and> > > > > > > Rh. So all the> > > > > > > Jala> > > > > > > > Rasi is afflicted.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji> > > has> > > > > > > analyzed it> > > > > > > correctly,> > > > > > > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other> > > > > learner> > > > > > > like myself.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > There are more questions:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused> > > the> > > > > > > accident - because Sa> > > > > > > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji> > > was> > > > > > > rescued? exalted> > > > > > > AL> > > > > > > > lord in AL?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Supriti> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon> > > > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > > > > > > Dear Upendra,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>

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Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Ramesh ji,

 

Thank you!

Rema

 

--- " Ramesh F. Gangaramani "

<ramesh.gangaramani wrote:

 

> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

>

> Dear Rema,

> Sorry to hear that you had to go through this

> experience. Good that there

> was this invisible hand of God to protect you.

> Best Wishes,

> Ramesh

>

>

> _____

>

> sohamsa

> [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

> Rema Menon

> Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:08 AM

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: Quiz:

>

>

>

> Hare Rama Krishna,

> Dear Supriti ji,

>

> Both were male.

>

> Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me. Jupiter in

> lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord Mercury

> was

> exalted in the 4th house.

>

> Thanks, Rema

>

> --- supriti108 <supriti108 (AT) (DOT)

> <supriti108%40> com>

> wrote:

>

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rema ji,

> >

> > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.

> >

> > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or

> > female? (Ju/Ve?)

> >

> > Thanks

> > Supriti

> >

> > sohamsa@

> <sohamsa%40> .com, Rema

> Menon

> > <remamenon wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > Dear Upendra ji,

> > >

> > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband didnot

> > know

> > > that I had capsized because he was way ahead of

> > me.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Rema

> > >

> > >

> > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni wrote:

> > >

> > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who

> saved

> > Rema

> > > > ji.

> > > >

> > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By

> > Your

> > > > husband or By some

> > > > trainer or By Some aged person?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Upendra

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@

> <sohamsa%40> .com,

> " supriti108 "

> > > > <supriti108@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,

> > > > >

> > > > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from

> the

> > > > same state!!!!! I

> > > > > live in Cary (near Raleigh).

> > > > >

> > > > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was on

> > the

> > > > right path with

> > > > the

> > > > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. " It is

> > quiet

> > > > powerful. Me is in

> > > > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in

> Mo's

> > > > nakshatra and Mo is

> > > > in

> > > > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct Su

> > and Ke

> > > > both in Sun's

> > > > > nakshatra. " The focus there could have been

> > on Su

> > > > or Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > I made a mistake in saying that you were

> going

> > > > through Ju/Su

> > > > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going

> > through

> > > > Ju/Mo - that

> > > > misled

> > > > > me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anways, so since you are going through

> Ju/Mo.

> > > > Lets look at Cn. It

> > > > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is A8

> > and

> > > > Rh. So all the

> > > > Jala

> > > > > Rasi is afflicted.

> > > > >

> > > > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji

> has

> > > > analyzed it

> > > > correctly,

> > > > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other

> > learner

> > > > like myself.

> > > > >

> > > > > There are more questions:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused the

> > > > accident - because Sa

> > > > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji

> was

> > > > rescued? exalted

> > > > AL

> > > > > lord in AL?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Supriti

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@

> <sohamsa%40> .com,

> Rema Menon

> > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > Dear Upendra,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I drowned in the Ocean. Was kayaking on

> > Saturday

> > > > and

> > > > > > it turned windy and the kayak capsized. I

> > was

> > > > rescued,

> > > > > > but it was a horrifying experience.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks, Rema

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Have you drowned in water and somebody

> > helped

> > > > you?

> > > > > > > Reason is Both

> > > > > > > Saturn placement and A8 are in Jala

> Rasi.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please note that I am just looking at

> the

> > > > transit

> > > > > > > chart on that day &

> > > > > > > time you have mentioned. I dont know if

> > > > seeing an

> > > > > > > event in this way

>

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Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Sourav ji,

 

I shall try to do as you suggested.

 

Thank you,

Rema

 

--- Sourav <souravc108 wrote:

 

>

> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Rema-ji and Supriti-ji,

>

>

> namaskar. Please

> refer to Sanjay-ji's lecture. There is indeed

> Brahmin Shaapa as Guru is

> conjoining Ketu (malefic) and aspected by Rahu

> (malefic). This is a

> strong curse in combination with matri Shaapa as

> they involve rasi

> drishti also. Further Guru and Chandra are

> vargottama indicating that a

> high Brahmin has given this curse. Also notice that

> Guru is Badhaka and

> conjoins nodal axis and Mangal is posited in the

> 12-th from Badhakesha.

> This indicates improper maintenance of Idol

> worshipped in the last life

> (Mangal-breakage) and this dosha needs to be

> remedied. Because Sukra is

> 5th lord in exchange with Sani, mantra remedies will

> work but after

> effort (varki 8th lord). Make sure you read the

> curse lecture (in the

> Files section of this group) and Badhaka lecture in

> Sanjay-ji's website

> and in his recently published book.

>

> Please perform the remedies I suggested before and

> the remedies of

> Badhaka as per Sanjay-ji's lecture.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

>

================================================================

>

> sohamsa , " supriti108 "

> <supriti108 wrote:

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rema ji,

> >

> > Although you have addressed this to SOurav, I'd

> like to comment. That

> > way maybe others will comment on my analysis and

> I'll learn something

> > new.

> >

> > I don't see a brahmin shaapa, I see only curse on

> Moon. Although AK

> > and 8th lord is involved, there is no rasi drishti

> only graha

> > drishti. So the curse will have effects only for a

> certain time

> > period.

> >

> > Also, I see that you have Ju and Ke in A5 in

> lagna, so Mantra Japa

> > should work very well. Also, Ju is vargottama!!

> >

> > Regards

> > Supriti

> >

> > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> remamenon@ wrote:

> > >

> > > HareRama Krishna,

> > > Dear Sourav ji,

> > >

> > > Yes, you are right about the curses. And I was

> worried

> > > from the time Moon antar started because Matri

> shapa

> > > is there. The gaja kesari which is there in

> every

> > > varga chart cannot be manifested due to the

> shapa on

> > > Moon.

> > >

> > > But I am not very sure about Brahman shapa,

> Jupiter is

> > > aspected by Rahu. Only if 2 or more malefics

> aspect a

> > > benefic there is shapa. I am not sure if Ketu

> would

> > > be considered a malefic in this case. I may be

> wrong.

> > >

> > > I do have another question for you, Shani is

> vakri,

> > > the 8th lord, how will this help in mantra

> remedies?

> > > Dont you think being vakri and exalted, the

> effects

> > > would be reversed?

> > >

> > > People who are researching eclipse effects may

> take my

> > > case for study. This incident happened a day

> after the

> > > lunar eclipse.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Rema

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Sourav souravc108@ wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rema-ji,

> > > >

> > > > namaskar. In your

> > > > Navamsa, Meena is rising

> > > > in Lagnabhava. This indicates inherent danger

> from

> > > > water. So please be

> > > > careful.

> > > >

> > > > Next, in your Rasi Chart, the three benefics

> > > > Chandra, Guru and Surya are

> > > > in vargottama and very strong. They are also

> under

> > > > curses - Guru is

> > > > conjoining a malefic and aspected by Rahu

> > > > constituting Brahmin Shaapa,

> > > > Chandra is conjoined by a malefic and aspected

> by

> > > > Sani and Mangal, and,

> > > > Surya is aspected by Rahu and Sani. AK and 8th

> lord

> > > > and Badhakasthana

> > > > are involved in all of them. Being a higher

> benefic,

> > > > Brahmin shaapa is

> > > > stronger. However, Chandra is AK and is under

> three

> > > > malefic influences,

> > > > hence Matri Shaapa is also strong. Shani is

> vakri

> > > > and 8th lord and in

> > > > exchange with 5th lord. Some mantra based

> remedies

> > > > will work. You are

> > > > under Sani-Sukra period per Moola Dasa.

> > > >

> > > > Ketu is in own house in 12-th from KK aspected

> by

> > > > exalted Surya who is

> > > > in very high Vaisesikaamsa and happens to be

> Guru

> > > > Devata - Sri Raama.

> > > > Please worship Sri Raama and Sri Ganesha and

> Matsya

> > > > avataara of Sri

> > > > Vishnu. Please notice that there is a strong

> Pitri

> > > > and Preta Dosha in

> > > > the Dwadasaamsa Chakra with Mangal and Sani in

> the

> > > > nodal axis. Please

> > > > worship as indicated and perform remedies for

> the

> > > > Shaapas and Doshas.

> > > > Your Ishtadevata has saved you.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Sourav

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

>

================================================================

> > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > Dear Supriti ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Both were male.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me.

> Jupiter in

> > > > > lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord

> Mercury

> > > > was

> > > > > exalted in the 4th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks, Rema

> > > > >

> > > > > --- supriti108 supriti108@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

>

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|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Dear Sourav,

 

Please point me to the lecture you are refering you.

 

Also, I have read (or inferred??) in several places that in one

chart, we should consider only one curse as being active in one

lifetime. Is there some other reason that you are considering 2

curses in Rema ji's case.

 

Thank you once again.

Supriti

 

sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

>

>

> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Rema-ji and Supriti-ji,

>

> namaskar.

Please

> refer to Sanjay-ji's lecture. There is indeed Brahmin Shaapa as

Guru is

> conjoining Ketu (malefic) and aspected by Rahu (malefic). This is a

> strong curse in combination with matri Shaapa as they involve rasi

> drishti also. Further Guru and Chandra are vargottama indicating

that a

> high Brahmin has given this curse. Also notice that Guru is Badhaka

and

> conjoins nodal axis and Mangal is posited in the 12-th from

Badhakesha.

> This indicates improper maintenance of Idol worshipped in the last

life

> (Mangal-breakage) and this dosha needs to be remedied. Because

Sukra is

> 5th lord in exchange with Sani, mantra remedies will work but after

> effort (varki 8th lord). Make sure you read the curse lecture (in

the

> Files section of this group) and Badhaka lecture in Sanjay-ji's

website

> and in his recently published book.

>

> Please perform the remedies I suggested before and the remedies of

> Badhaka as per Sanjay-ji's lecture.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> ================================================================

>

> sohamsa , " supriti108 " <supriti108@> wrote:

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rema ji,

> >

> > Although you have addressed this to SOurav, I'd like to comment.

That

> > way maybe others will comment on my analysis and I'll learn

something

> > new.

> >

> > I don't see a brahmin shaapa, I see only curse on Moon. Although

AK

> > and 8th lord is involved, there is no rasi drishti only graha

> > drishti. So the curse will have effects only for a certain time

> > period.

> >

> > Also, I see that you have Ju and Ke in A5 in lagna, so Mantra Japa

> > should work very well. Also, Ju is vargottama!!

> >

> > Regards

> > Supriti

> >

> > sohamsa , Rema Menon remamenon@ wrote:

> > >

> > > HareRama Krishna,

> > > Dear Sourav ji,

> > >

> > > Yes, you are right about the curses. And I was worried

> > > from the time Moon antar started because Matri shapa

> > > is there. The gaja kesari which is there in every

> > > varga chart cannot be manifested due to the shapa on

> > > Moon.

> > >

> > > But I am not very sure about Brahman shapa, Jupiter is

> > > aspected by Rahu. Only if 2 or more malefics aspect a

> > > benefic there is shapa. I am not sure if Ketu would

> > > be considered a malefic in this case. I may be wrong.

> > >

> > > I do have another question for you, Shani is vakri,

> > > the 8th lord, how will this help in mantra remedies?

> > > Dont you think being vakri and exalted, the effects

> > > would be reversed?

> > >

> > > People who are researching eclipse effects may take my

> > > case for study. This incident happened a day after the

> > > lunar eclipse.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Rema

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Sourav souravc108@ wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rema-ji,

> > > >

> > > > namaskar. In your

> > > > Navamsa, Meena is rising

> > > > in Lagnabhava. This indicates inherent danger from

> > > > water. So please be

> > > > careful.

> > > >

> > > > Next, in your Rasi Chart, the three benefics

> > > > Chandra, Guru and Surya are

> > > > in vargottama and very strong. They are also under

> > > > curses - Guru is

> > > > conjoining a malefic and aspected by Rahu

> > > > constituting Brahmin Shaapa,

> > > > Chandra is conjoined by a malefic and aspected by

> > > > Sani and Mangal, and,

> > > > Surya is aspected by Rahu and Sani. AK and 8th lord

> > > > and Badhakasthana

> > > > are involved in all of them. Being a higher benefic,

> > > > Brahmin shaapa is

> > > > stronger. However, Chandra is AK and is under three

> > > > malefic influences,

> > > > hence Matri Shaapa is also strong. Shani is vakri

> > > > and 8th lord and in

> > > > exchange with 5th lord. Some mantra based remedies

> > > > will work. You are

> > > > under Sani-Sukra period per Moola Dasa.

> > > >

> > > > Ketu is in own house in 12-th from KK aspected by

> > > > exalted Surya who is

> > > > in very high Vaisesikaamsa and happens to be Guru

> > > > Devata - Sri Raama.

> > > > Please worship Sri Raama and Sri Ganesha and Matsya

> > > > avataara of Sri

> > > > Vishnu. Please notice that there is a strong Pitri

> > > > and Preta Dosha in

> > > > the Dwadasaamsa Chakra with Mangal and Sani in the

> > > > nodal axis. Please

> > > > worship as indicated and perform remedies for the

> > > > Shaapas and Doshas.

> > > > Your Ishtadevata has saved you.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Sourav

> > > >

> > > >

> > > ================================================================

> > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > Dear Supriti ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Both were male.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me. Jupiter in

> > > > > lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord Mercury

> > > > was

> > > > > exalted in the 4th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks, Rema

> > > > >

> > > > > --- supriti108 supriti108@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > Dear Rema ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or

> > > > > > female? (Ju/Ve?)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > > remamenon@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > > Dear Upendra ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband

> > > > didnot

> > > > > > know

> > > > > > > that I had capsized because he was way ahead

> > > > of

> > > > > > me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > Rema

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- upendra_agni upendra.agni@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who

> > > > saved

> > > > > > Rema

> > > > > > > > ji.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By

> > > > > > Your

> > > > > > > > husband or By some

> > > > > > > > trainer or By Some aged person?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Upendra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa , " supriti108 "

> > > > > > > > <supriti108@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > same state!!!!! I

> > > > > > > > > live in Cary (near Raleigh).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was

> > > > on

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > right path with

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. " It is

> > > > > > quiet

> > > > > > > > powerful. Me is in

> > > > > > > > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in

> > > > Mo's

> > > > > > > > nakshatra and Mo is

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct

> > > > Su

> > > > > > and Ke

> > > > > > > > both in Sun's

> > > > > > > > > nakshatra. " The focus there could have

> > > > been

> > > > > > on Su

> > > > > > > > or Mo.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I made a mistake in saying that you were

> > > > going

> > > > > > > > through Ju/Su

> > > > > > > > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going

> > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > Ju/Mo - that

> > > > > > > > misled

> > > > > > > > > me.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Anways, so since you are going through

> > > > Ju/Mo.

> > > > > > > > Lets look at Cn. It

> > > > > > > > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is

> > > > A8

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Rh. So all the

> > > > > > > > Jala

> > > > > > > > > Rasi is afflicted.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji

> > > > has

> > > > > > > > analyzed it

> > > > > > > > correctly,

> > > > > > > > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other

> > > > > > learner

> > > > > > > > like myself.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There are more questions:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > accident - because Sa

> > > > > > > > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji

> > > > was

> > > > > > > > rescued? exalted

> > > > > > > > AL

> > > > > > > > > lord in AL?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Upendra,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > === message truncated ===

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Supriti-ji,

namaskar. Please find the File in the Files section of this group entitled "curses+_+ Serbia...pdf" . I quote the following from the lecture:

" Although there is only one operative curse in one life time (generally believed to be so), it is advisable check for allied `curses' or suffering indicated by the evil Müla daçä planet. All the allied suffering will also happen during this time. It is well said that when it rains it pours. The Müla daçä planet which is to deliver the results of the curse will also activate allied curses of other relatives during its daçä thereby ensuring all round suffering and torment."

So we should consider the allied curses as they are related here. Notice the strong matri shaapa which will dominate as AK and 8th lord are involved.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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sohamsa , "supriti108" <supriti108 wrote:>> |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> Dear Sourav,> > Please point me to the lecture you are refering you. > > Also, I have read (or inferred??) in several places that in one > chart, we should consider only one curse as being active in one > lifetime. Is there some other reason that you are considering 2 > curses in Rema ji's case.> > Thank you once again.> Supriti> > sohamsa , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Rema-ji and Supriti-ji,> > > > namaskar. > Please> > refer to Sanjay-ji's lecture. There is indeed Brahmin Shaapa as > Guru is> > conjoining Ketu (malefic) and aspected by Rahu (malefic). This is a> > strong curse in combination with matri Shaapa as they involve rasi> > drishti also. Further Guru and Chandra are vargottama indicating > that a> > high Brahmin has given this curse. Also notice that Guru is Badhaka > and> > conjoins nodal axis and Mangal is posited in the 12-th from > Badhakesha.> > This indicates improper maintenance of Idol worshipped in the last > life> > (Mangal-breakage) and this dosha needs to be remedied. Because > Sukra is> > 5th lord in exchange with Sani, mantra remedies will work but after> > effort (varki 8th lord). Make sure you read the curse lecture (in > the> > Files section of this group) and Badhaka lecture in Sanjay-ji's > website> > and in his recently published book.> > > > Please perform the remedies I suggested before and the remedies of> > Badhaka as per Sanjay-ji's lecture.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > ================================================================> > > > sohamsa , "supriti108" <supriti108@> wrote:> > >> > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> > > Dear Rema ji,> > >> > > Although you have addressed this to SOurav, I'd like to comment. > That> > > way maybe others will comment on my analysis and I'll learn > something> > > new.> > >> > > I don't see a brahmin shaapa, I see only curse on Moon. Although > AK> > > and 8th lord is involved, there is no rasi drishti only graha> > > drishti. So the curse will have effects only for a certain time> > > period.> > >> > > Also, I see that you have Ju and Ke in A5 in lagna, so Mantra Japa> > > should work very well. Also, Ju is vargottama!!> > >> > > Regards> > > Supriti> > >> > > sohamsa , Rema Menon remamenon@ wrote:> > > >> > > > HareRama Krishna,> > > > Dear Sourav ji,> > > >> > > > Yes, you are right about the curses. And I was worried> > > > from the time Moon antar started because Matri shapa> > > > is there. The gaja kesari which is there in every> > > > varga chart cannot be manifested due to the shapa on> > > > Moon.> > > >> > > > But I am not very sure about Brahman shapa, Jupiter is> > > > aspected by Rahu. Only if 2 or more malefics aspect a> > > > benefic there is shapa. I am not sure if Ketu would> > > > be considered a malefic in this case. I may be wrong.> > > >> > > > I do have another question for you, Shani is vakri,> > > > the 8th lord, how will this help in mantra remedies?> > > > Dont you think being vakri and exalted, the effects> > > > would be reversed?> > > >> > > > People who are researching eclipse effects may take my> > > > case for study. This incident happened a day after the> > > > lunar eclipse.> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > > Rema> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --- Sourav souravc108@ wrote:> > > >> > > > >> > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > >> > > > > Dear Rema-ji,> > > > >> > > > > namaskar. In your> > > > > Navamsa, Meena is rising> > > > > in Lagnabhava. This indicates inherent danger from> > > > > water. So please be> > > > > careful.> > > > >> > > > > Next, in your Rasi Chart, the three benefics> > > > > Chandra, Guru and Surya are> > > > > in vargottama and very strong. They are also under> > > > > curses - Guru is> > > > > conjoining a malefic and aspected by Rahu> > > > > constituting Brahmin Shaapa,> > > > > Chandra is conjoined by a malefic and aspected by> > > > > Sani and Mangal, and,> > > > > Surya is aspected by Rahu and Sani. AK and 8th lord> > > > > and Badhakasthana> > > > > are involved in all of them. Being a higher benefic,> > > > > Brahmin shaapa is> > > > > stronger. However, Chandra is AK and is under three> > > > > malefic influences,> > > > > hence Matri Shaapa is also strong. Shani is vakri> > > > > and 8th lord and in> > > > > exchange with 5th lord. Some mantra based remedies> > > > > will work. You are> > > > > under Sani-Sukra period per Moola Dasa.> > > > >> > > > > Ketu is in own house in 12-th from KK aspected by> > > > > exalted Surya who is> > > > > in very high Vaisesikaamsa and happens to be Guru> > > > > Devata - Sri Raama.> > > > > Please worship Sri Raama and Sri Ganesha and Matsya> > > > > avataara of Sri> > > > > Vishnu. Please notice that there is a strong Pitri> > > > > and Preta Dosha in> > > > > the Dwadasaamsa Chakra with Mangal and Sani in the> > > > > nodal axis. Please> > > > > worship as indicated and perform remedies for the> > > > > Shaapas and Doshas.> > > > > Your Ishtadevata has saved you.> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Sourav> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ================================================================> > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon> > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > > > Dear Supriti ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Both were male.> > > > > >> > > > > > Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me. Jupiter in> > > > > > lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord Mercury> > > > > was> > > > > > exalted in the 4th house.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks, Rema> > > > > >> > > > > > --- supriti108 supriti108@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> > > > > > > Dear Rema ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or> > > > > > > female? (Ju/Ve?)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > Supriti> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon> > > > > > > remamenon@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > > > > > Dear Upendra ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband> > > > > didnot> > > > > > > know> > > > > > > > that I had capsized because he was way ahead> > > > > of> > > > > > > me.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > > > Rema> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- upendra_agni upendra.agni@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hi,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who> > > > > saved> > > > > > > Rema> > > > > > > > > ji.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By> > > > > > > Your> > > > > > > > > husband or By some> > > > > > > > > trainer or By Some aged person?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > Upendra> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "supriti108"> > > > > > > > > <supriti108@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > same state!!!!! I> > > > > > > > > > live in Cary (near Raleigh).> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was> > > > > on> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > right path with> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. "It is> > > > > > > quiet> > > > > > > > > powerful. Me is in> > > > > > > > > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in> > > > > Mo's> > > > > > > > > nakshatra and Mo is> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct> > > > > Su> > > > > > > and Ke> > > > > > > > > both in Sun's> > > > > > > > > > nakshatra." The focus there could have> > > > > been> > > > > > > on Su> > > > > > > > > or Mo.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I made a mistake in saying that you were> > > > > going> > > > > > > > > through Ju/Su> > > > > > > > > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going> > > > > > > through> > > > > > > > > Ju/Mo - that> > > > > > > > > misled> > > > > > > > > > me.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Anways, so since you are going through> > > > > Ju/Mo.> > > > > > > > > Lets look at Cn. It> > > > > > > > > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is> > > > > A8> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > Rh. So all the> > > > > > > > > Jala> > > > > > > > > > Rasi is afflicted.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji> > > > > has> > > > > > > > > analyzed it> > > > > > > > > correctly,> > > > > > > > > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other> > > > > > > learner> > > > > > > > > like myself.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > There are more questions:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > accident - because Sa> > > > > > > > > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji> > > > > was> > > > > > > > > rescued? exalted> > > > > > > > > AL> > > > > > > > > > lord in AL?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > Supriti> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon> > > > > > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Upendra,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > === message truncated ===> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> >>

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|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Dear SOurav,

 

Thanks. I have read Guruji's lesson before, does it have a reference

to the curse due to Ju conjunct Ke? I think I missed that. I will

go through it again.

 

Anyways, I think I got it now. You are considering it only because

they are connected. You would not have considered the matri shaapa

if it was a separate curse, right.

 

One of the reasons for my question is this. I have been going

through Saturn Moola dasa and my brahmin curse is manifesting at this

time. Although, the pisacha badha in my chart is unrelated, I do not

undertand why it being manifested at the same time.

 

I am trying to do a chronology of my curse to understand it better.

 

Its 10 years (Sa debilitated) so I need to break it up into:

3+3+4 (Am I right?)

 

2001-9-18 to 2004-9-18 -- All round Suffering, loss of job & position

of self, loss of job & position of father, intense humiliation,

misundersatnding and strife in marriage, total headless humiliation

(pishacha badhaka manifesting - Why?), all my previous savings washed

away

 

2004-9-19 to 2007-9-18 -- Got back job, slowly getting back position,

Loss of father (not through death) - father drifted away from the

family (he has suffered a lot too due his actions, his career and my

marriage), some more totally headless humiliation (pishacha badhaka

manifesting - Why?), trying but hardly succeeding to build up savings

for the next rainy day

 

2007-9-19 to 2011-9-18 -- Waiting to see what else fate has in store

for me, but I feel spiritually and emotionally better equipped to

protest against injustice(??). Maybe because I have moved on from my

Mo vimsottari dasa (Mo in MKS to AK Sa) to my Ma dasa (Vargottama

2nd/9th lord in 6th)

 

Thanks again.

Regards

Supriti

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Supriti

 

Natal Chart

 

September 18, 1970

Time: 17:47:43

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 88 E 22' 00 " , 22 N 34' 00 "

Kolkata, India

Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

Lunar Yr-Mo: Sadharana - Bhadrapada

Tithi: Krishna Chaturthi (Me) (50.40% left)

Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

Nakshatra: Bharani (Ve) (97.46% left)

Yoga: Vyaghata (Ve) (59.55% left)

Karana: Bava (Su) (0.81% left)

Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Le)

Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Ge)

Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Mercury)

 

Sunrise: 5:27:27

Sunset: 17:33:59

Janma Ghatis: 30.8445

 

Ayanamsa: 23-27-00.97

Sidereal Time: 17:59:12

 

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

 

Lagna 6 Pi 17' 05.35 " UBha 1 Pi Le

Sun - DK 1 Vi 43' 16.03 " UPha 2 Vi Cp

Moon - PK 13 Ar 40' 21.26 " Bhar 1 Ar Le

Mars - PiK 16 Le 17' 01.46 " PPha 1 Le Le

Mercury ® - BK 21 Le 17' 44.60 " PPha 3 Le Li

Jupiter - GK 12 Li 09' 39.58 " Swat 2 Li Cp

Venus - MK 16 Li 26' 35.26 " Swat 3 Li Aq

Saturn ® - AK 28 Ar 59' 56.45 " Krit 1 Ar Sg

Rahu - AmK 8 Aq 02' 32.73 " Sata 1 Aq Sg

Ketu 8 Le 02' 32.73 " Magh 3 Le Ge

Maandi 22 Ge 09' 20.45 " Puna 1 Ge Ar

Gulika 12 Ge 11' 25.92 " Ardr 2 Ge Cp

Uranus 14 Vi 50' 45.75 " Hast 2 Vi Ta

Neptune 5 Sc 05' 16.04 " Anu 1 Sc Le

Pluto 3 Vi 42' 09.11 " UPha 3 Vi Aq

Bhava Lagna 6 Pi 17' 12.20 " UBha 1 Pi Le

Hora Lagna 11 Vi 21' 14.20 " Hast 1 Vi Ar

Ghati Lagna 26 Pi 33' 20.21 " Reva 3 Pi Aq

Vighati Lagna 12 Sg 33' 50.27 " Mool 4 Sg Cn

Varnada Lagna 6 Le 17' 05.35 " Aswi 1 Le Vi

Sree Lagna 15 Pi 26' 39.40 " UBha 4 Pi Sc

Pranapada Lagna 13 Ar 03' 56.11 " Aswi 4 Ar Cn

Indu Lagna 13 Cn 40' 21.26 " Push 4 Cn Sc

Dhooma 15 Cp 03' 16.03 " Srav 2 Cp Ta

Vyatipata 14 Ge 56' 43.97 " Ardr 3 Ge Aq

Parivesha 14 Sg 56' 43.97 " PSha 1 Sg Le

Indra Chapa 15 Cn 03' 16.03 " Push 4 Cn Sc

Upaketu 1 Le 43' 16.03 " Magh 1 Le Ar

Kaala 1 Le 35' 17.10 " Magh 1 Le Ar

Mrityu 16 Pi 33' 10.05 " UBha 4 Pi Sc

Artha Prahara 14 Ar 54' 46.62 " Bhar 1 Ar Le

Yama Ghantaka 9 Ta 57' 08.80 " Krit 4 Ta Pi

Prana Sphuta 13 Aq 36' 52.66 " Sata 3 Aq Aq

Deha Sphuta 1 Li 34' 16.01 " Chit 3 Li Li

Mrityu Sphuta 27 Cp 03' 17.46 " Dhan 2 Cp Vi

Sookshma TriSphuta 12 Ge 14' 26.13 " Ardr 2 Ge Cp

TriSphuta 2 Ge 08' 52.53 " Mrig 3 Ge Li

ChatusSphuta 3 Sc 52' 08.56 " Anu 1 Sc Le

PanchaSphuta 11 Vi 54' 41.30 " Hast 1 Vi Ar

V2 6 Sc 17' 05.35 " Aswi 1 Sc Li

V3 6 Sg 17' 05.35 " Aswi 1 Sg Cp

V4 6 Pi 17' 05.35 " Aswi 1 Pi Aq

V5 6 Ar 17' 05.35 " Aswi 1 Ar Ta

V6 6 Cn 17' 05.35 " Aswi 1 Cn Ge

V7 6 Le 17' 05.35 " Aswi 1 Le Vi

V8 6 Sc 17' 05.35 " Aswi 1 Sc Li

V9 6 Sg 17' 05.35 " Aswi 1 Sg Cp

V10 6 Pi 17' 05.35 " Aswi 1 Pi Aq

V11 6 Ar 17' 05.35 " Aswi 1 Ar Ta

V12 6 Cn 17' 05.35 " Aswi 1 Cn Ge

Kunda 29 Sc 04' 13.18 " Jye 4 Sc Pi

 

Rasi

+--------------+

| \ SaR / \ / |

| \ Mo / \ Ra / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / GL \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|AL x As x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Gk \ 12 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Md x |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / HL \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| x Su x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ma \ / Ju \ |

| / MeR Ke \ / Ve \ |

+--------------+

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

 

Ven Ven 1970-03-13 Sun 1973-07-14 Moon 1974-07-15

Mars 1976-03-12 Rah 1977-05-13 Jup 1980-05-12

Sat 1983-01-13 Merc 1986-03-13 Ket 1989-01-12

Sun Sun 1990-03-13 Moon 1990-07-02 Mars 1991-01-01

Rah 1991-05-07 Jup 1992-03-30 Sat 1993-01-18

Merc 1994-01-01 Ket 1994-11-09 Ven 1995-03-13

Moon Moon 1996-03-12 Mars 1997-01-12 Rah 1997-08-15

Jup 1999-02-11 Sat 2000-06-13 Merc 2002-01-13

Ket 2003-06-14 Ven 2004-01-13 Sun 2005-09-15

Mars Mars 2006-03-13 Rah 2006-08-12 Jup 2007-08-31

Sat 2008-08-05 Merc 2009-09-15 Ket 2010-09-12

Ven 2011-02-05 Sun 2012-04-06 Moon 2012-08-15

Rah Rah 2013-03-13 Jup 2015-11-27 Sat 2018-04-18

Merc 2021-02-23 Ket 2023-09-16 Ven 2024-10-03

Sun 2027-10-04 Moon 2028-08-27 Mars 2030-02-23

Jup Jup 2031-03-13 Sat 2033-05-01 Merc 2035-11-15

Ket 2038-02-17 Ven 2039-01-25 Sun 2041-09-27

Moon 2042-07-15 Mars 2043-11-15 Rah 2044-10-22

Sat Sat 2047-03-13 Merc 2050-03-16 Ket 2052-11-26

Ven 2054-01-04 Sun 2057-03-04 Moon 2058-02-14

Mars 2059-09-19 Rah 2060-10-28 Jup 2063-09-03

Merc Merc 2066-03-13 Ket 2068-08-12 Ven 2069-08-09

Sun 2072-06-07 Moon 2073-04-12 Mars 2073-09-15

Rah 2074-09-13 Jup 2078-03-28 Sat 2080-07-05

Ket Ket 2083-03-14 Ven 2083-08-13 Sun 2083-10-13

Moon 2085-02-14 Mars 2084-09-18 Rah 2086-02-12

Jup 2087-03-02 Sat 2088-02-06 Merc 2089-03-16

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

>

>

> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Supriti-ji,

>

> namaskar. Please find the File in

the

> Files section of this group entitled " curses+_+ Serbia...pdf " . I

quote

> the following from the lecture:

>

> " Although there is only one operative curse in one life time

(generally

> believed to be so), it is advisable check for allied `curses' or

> suffering indicated by the evil Müla daçä planet. All the allied

> suffering will also happen during this time. It is well said that

when

> it rains it pours. The Müla daçä planet which is to deliver the

> results of the curse will also activate allied curses of other

relatives

> during its daçä thereby ensuring all round suffering and torment. "

>

> So we should consider the allied curses as they are related here.

Notice

> the strong matri shaapa which will dominate as AK and 8th lord are

> involved.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

>

======================================================================

==\

> =======

>

>

> sohamsa , " supriti108 " <supriti108@> wrote:

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Sourav,

> >

> > Please point me to the lecture you are refering you.

> >

> > Also, I have read (or inferred??) in several places that in one

> > chart, we should consider only one curse as being active in one

> > lifetime. Is there some other reason that you are considering 2

> > curses in Rema ji's case.

> >

> > Thank you once again.

> > Supriti

> >

> > sohamsa , " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Rema-ji and Supriti-ji,

> > >

> > > namaskar.

> > Please

> > > refer to Sanjay-ji's lecture. There is indeed Brahmin Shaapa as

> > Guru is

> > > conjoining Ketu (malefic) and aspected by Rahu (malefic). This

is a

> > > strong curse in combination with matri Shaapa as they involve

rasi

> > > drishti also. Further Guru and Chandra are vargottama indicating

> > that a

> > > high Brahmin has given this curse. Also notice that Guru is

Badhaka

> > and

> > > conjoins nodal axis and Mangal is posited in the 12-th from

> > Badhakesha.

> > > This indicates improper maintenance of Idol worshipped in the

last

> > life

> > > (Mangal-breakage) and this dosha needs to be remedied. Because

> > Sukra is

> > > 5th lord in exchange with Sani, mantra remedies will work but

after

> > > effort (varki 8th lord). Make sure you read the curse lecture

(in

> > the

> > > Files section of this group) and Badhaka lecture in Sanjay-ji's

> > website

> > > and in his recently published book.

> > >

> > > Please perform the remedies I suggested before and the remedies

of

> > > Badhaka as per Sanjay-ji's lecture.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Sourav

> > >

> > > ================================================================

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " supriti108 " <supriti108@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > Dear Rema ji,

> > > >

> > > > Although you have addressed this to SOurav, I'd like to

comment.

> > That

> > > > way maybe others will comment on my analysis and I'll learn

> > something

> > > > new.

> > > >

> > > > I don't see a brahmin shaapa, I see only curse on Moon.

Although

> > AK

> > > > and 8th lord is involved, there is no rasi drishti only graha

> > > > drishti. So the curse will have effects only for a certain

time

> > > > period.

> > > >

> > > > Also, I see that you have Ju and Ke in A5 in lagna, so Mantra

Japa

> > > > should work very well. Also, Ju is vargottama!!

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Supriti

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon remamenon@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > HareRama Krishna,

> > > > > Dear Sourav ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, you are right about the curses. And I was worried

> > > > > from the time Moon antar started because Matri shapa

> > > > > is there. The gaja kesari which is there in every

> > > > > varga chart cannot be manifested due to the shapa on

> > > > > Moon.

> > > > >

> > > > > But I am not very sure about Brahman shapa, Jupiter is

> > > > > aspected by Rahu. Only if 2 or more malefics aspect a

> > > > > benefic there is shapa. I am not sure if Ketu would

> > > > > be considered a malefic in this case. I may be wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do have another question for you, Shani is vakri,

> > > > > the 8th lord, how will this help in mantra remedies?

> > > > > Dont you think being vakri and exalted, the effects

> > > > > would be reversed?

> > > > >

> > > > > People who are researching eclipse effects may take my

> > > > > case for study. This incident happened a day after the

> > > > > lunar eclipse.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Rema

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Sourav souravc108@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rema-ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > namaskar. In your

> > > > > > Navamsa, Meena is rising

> > > > > > in Lagnabhava. This indicates inherent danger from

> > > > > > water. So please be

> > > > > > careful.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Next, in your Rasi Chart, the three benefics

> > > > > > Chandra, Guru and Surya are

> > > > > > in vargottama and very strong. They are also under

> > > > > > curses - Guru is

> > > > > > conjoining a malefic and aspected by Rahu

> > > > > > constituting Brahmin Shaapa,

> > > > > > Chandra is conjoined by a malefic and aspected by

> > > > > > Sani and Mangal, and,

> > > > > > Surya is aspected by Rahu and Sani. AK and 8th lord

> > > > > > and Badhakasthana

> > > > > > are involved in all of them. Being a higher benefic,

> > > > > > Brahmin shaapa is

> > > > > > stronger. However, Chandra is AK and is under three

> > > > > > malefic influences,

> > > > > > hence Matri Shaapa is also strong. Shani is vakri

> > > > > > and 8th lord and in

> > > > > > exchange with 5th lord. Some mantra based remedies

> > > > > > will work. You are

> > > > > > under Sani-Sukra period per Moola Dasa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ketu is in own house in 12-th from KK aspected by

> > > > > > exalted Surya who is

> > > > > > in very high Vaisesikaamsa and happens to be Guru

> > > > > > Devata - Sri Raama.

> > > > > > Please worship Sri Raama and Sri Ganesha and Matsya

> > > > > > avataara of Sri

> > > > > > Vishnu. Please notice that there is a strong Pitri

> > > > > > and Preta Dosha in

> > > > > > the Dwadasaamsa Chakra with Mangal and Sani in the

> > > > > > nodal axis. Please

> > > > > > worship as indicated and perform remedies for the

> > > > > > Shaapas and Doshas.

> > > > > > Your Ishtadevata has saved you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sourav

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

================================================================

> > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > Dear Supriti ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Both were male.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me. Jupiter in

> > > > > > > lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord Mercury

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > exalted in the 4th house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks, Rema

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- supriti108 supriti108@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > > > Dear Rema ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or

> > > > > > > > female? (Ju/Ve?)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > > > > remamenon@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > > > > Dear Upendra ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband

> > > > > > didnot

> > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > that I had capsized because he was way ahead

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > me.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > > > Rema

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- upendra_agni upendra.agni@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who

> > > > > > saved

> > > > > > > > Rema

> > > > > > > > > > ji.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By

> > > > > > > > Your

> > > > > > > > > > husband or By some

> > > > > > > > > > trainer or By Some aged person?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Upendra

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " supriti108 "

> > > > > > > > > > <supriti108@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > same state!!!!! I

> > > > > > > > > > > live in Cary (near Raleigh).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > right path with

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. " It is

> > > > > > > > quiet

> > > > > > > > > > powerful. Me is in

> > > > > > > > > > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in

> > > > > > Mo's

> > > > > > > > > > nakshatra and Mo is

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct

> > > > > > Su

> > > > > > > > and Ke

> > > > > > > > > > both in Sun's

> > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra. " The focus there could have

> > > > > > been

> > > > > > > > on Su

> > > > > > > > > > or Mo.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I made a mistake in saying that you were

> > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > > > through Ju/Su

> > > > > > > > > > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going

> > > > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > > > Ju/Mo - that

> > > > > > > > > > misled

> > > > > > > > > > > me.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Anways, so since you are going through

> > > > > > Ju/Mo.

> > > > > > > > > > Lets look at Cn. It

> > > > > > > > > > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is

> > > > > > A8

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > Rh. So all the

> > > > > > > > > > Jala

> > > > > > > > > > > Rasi is afflicted.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > analyzed it

> > > > > > > > > > correctly,

> > > > > > > > > > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other

> > > > > > > > learner

> > > > > > > > > > like myself.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > There are more questions:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > accident - because Sa

> > > > > > > > > > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > rescued? exalted

> > > > > > > > > > AL

> > > > > > > > > > > lord in AL?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > > > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Upendra,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Om Brihaspataye Namah

Dear Rema,

I learnt from Sanjay-ji in Delhi this year, with Saturn

or malefics in 5th show mistakes in Japa, and the need to always

worship Ganesh before each different mantra, and in my case before each round

of mala .I also tend to stop the routine of Japa.

Hope this is helpful,

Regards

Rosemary

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rema Menon

Thursday, 28 September 2006

4:24 a.m.

sohamsa

Re: Re: Quiz:

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama

Krishna,

Dear Supriti,

That is good to hear. My doubt still stands regarding

the retro Sat, because once I had started a japa and

it got discontinued.

Thanks, Rema

 

--- supriti108 <supriti108 >

wrote:

 

> |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> Dear Rema ji,

>

> Although you have addressed this to SOurav, I'd like

> to comment. That

> way maybe others will comment on my analysis and

> I'll learn something

> new.

>

> I don't see a brahmin shaapa, I see only curse on

> Moon. Although AK

> and 8th lord is involved, there is no rasi drishti

> only graha

> drishti. So the curse will have effects only for a

> certain time

> period.

>

> Also, I see that you have Ju and Ke in A5 in lagna,

> so Mantra Japa

> should work very well. Also, Ju is vargottama!!

>

> Regards

> Supriti

>

> sohamsa ,

Rema Menon

> <remamenon wrote:

> >

> > HareRama Krishna,

> > Dear Sourav ji,

> >

> > Yes, you are right about the curses. And I was

> worried

> > from the time Moon antar started because Matri

> shapa

> > is there. The gaja kesari which is there in every

> > varga chart cannot be manifested due to the shapa

> on

> > Moon.

> >

> > But I am not very sure about Brahman shapa,

> Jupiter is

> > aspected by Rahu. Only if 2 or more malefics

> aspect a

> > benefic there is shapa. I am not sure if Ketu

> would

> > be considered a malefic in this case. I may be

> wrong.

> >

> > I do have another question for you, Shani is

> vakri,

> > the 8th lord, how will this help in mantra

> remedies?

> > Dont you think being vakri and exalted, the

> effects

> > would be reversed?

> >

> > People who are researching eclipse effects may

> take my

> > case for study. This incident happened a day after

> the

> > lunar eclipse.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Rema

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Sourav <souravc108 wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Rema-ji,

> > >

> > > namaskar. In your

> > > Navamsa, Meena is rising

> > > in Lagnabhava. This indicates inherent danger

> from

> > > water. So please be

> > > careful.

> > >

> > > Next, in your Rasi Chart, the three benefics

> > > Chandra, Guru and Surya are

> > > in vargottama and very strong. They are also

> under

> > > curses - Guru is

> > > conjoining a malefic and aspected by Rahu

> > > constituting Brahmin Shaapa,

> > > Chandra is conjoined by a malefic and aspected

> by

> > > Sani and Mangal, and,

> > > Surya is aspected by Rahu and Sani. AK and 8th

> lord

> > > and Badhakasthana

> > > are involved in all of them. Being a higher

> benefic,

> > > Brahmin shaapa is

> > > stronger. However, Chandra is AK and is under

> three

> > > malefic influences,

> > > hence Matri Shaapa is also strong. Shani is

> vakri

> > > and 8th lord and in

> > > exchange with 5th lord. Some mantra based

> remedies

> > > will work. You are

> > > under Sani-Sukra period per Moola Dasa.

> > >

> > > Ketu is in own house in 12-th from KK aspected

> by

> > > exalted Surya who is

> > > in very high Vaisesikaamsa and happens to be

> Guru

> > > Devata - Sri Raama.

> > > Please worship Sri Raama and Sri Ganesha and

> Matsya

> > > avataara of Sri

> > > Vishnu. Please notice that there is a strong

> Pitri

> > > and Preta Dosha in

> > > the Dwadasaamsa Chakra with Mangal and Sani in

> the

> > > nodal axis. Please

> > > worship as indicated and perform remedies for

> the

> > > Shaapas and Doshas.

> > > Your Ishtadevata has saved you.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Sourav

> > >

> > >

> >

>

================================================================

> > > sohamsa ,

Rema Menon

> > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > Dear Supriti ji,

> > > >

> > > > Both were male.

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me.

> Jupiter in

> > > > lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord

> Mercury

> > > was

> > > > exalted in the 4th house.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks, Rema

> > > >

> > > > --- supriti108 supriti108@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > Dear Rema ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers

> male or

> > > > > female? (Ju/Ve?)

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Supriti

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa ,

Rema Menon

> > > > > remamenon@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > Dear Upendra ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband

> > > didnot

> > > > > know

> > > > > > that I had capsized because he was way

> ahead

> > > of

> > > > > me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Rema

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- upendra_agni upendra.agni@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus

> who

> > > saved

> > > > > Rema

> > > > > > > ji.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued

> you? By

> > > > > Your

> > > > > > > husband or By some

>

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Dear Sourav Ji and Reema Ji

 

Namaskar

 

I was following this trail of posts and found some really insightful

techniques of analysis. Thanks for that

 

Just on the question of Shapas, I heard in the London conference Guru

Sanjay jis lecture of Curses and he had catagorically said that incase

more than one shapa is active in the chart only one could menifest in

a given lifetime. So in this case since you have a brahmin Shapa

(which is highest in strengths of curses as ju is the most benefic)

then only that can menifest in your life. So by moola dasha only the

Rahu Dasha, ketu or Ju could give the results of the Shapa

Fructification. I am not very clear on which one As none of them is

having any relation to the 8th house to give any health issues.

 

But Ra since is sitting in the 7th house can give some issues with the

realtionships during the Shapa fructification years in own dasha I

would suspect.

 

Comments are welcome

 

Regards

 

Tarun

 

 

sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

>

>

> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Rema-ji,

>

> namaskar. In your Navamsa, Meena is rising

> in Lagnabhava. This indicates inherent danger from water. So please be

> careful.

>

> Next, in your Rasi Chart, the three benefics Chandra, Guru and Surya are

> in vargottama and very strong. They are also under curses - Guru is

> conjoining a malefic and aspected by Rahu constituting Brahmin Shaapa,

> Chandra is conjoined by a malefic and aspected by Sani and Mangal, and,

> Surya is aspected by Rahu and Sani. AK and 8th lord and Badhakasthana

> are involved in all of them. Being a higher benefic, Brahmin shaapa is

> stronger. However, Chandra is AK and is under three malefic influences,

> hence Matri Shaapa is also strong. Shani is vakri and 8th lord and in

> exchange with 5th lord. Some mantra based remedies will work. You are

> under Sani-Sukra period per Moola Dasa.

>

> Ketu is in own house in 12-th from KK aspected by exalted Surya who is

> in very high Vaisesikaamsa and happens to be Guru Devata - Sri Raama.

> Please worship Sri Raama and Sri Ganesha and Matsya avataara of Sri

> Vishnu. Please notice that there is a strong Pitri and Preta Dosha in

> the Dwadasaamsa Chakra with Mangal and Sani in the nodal axis. Please

> worship as indicated and perform remedies for the Shaapas and Doshas.

> Your Ishtadevata has saved you.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> ================================================================

> sohamsa , Rema Menon <remamenon@> wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > Dear Supriti ji,

> >

> > Both were male.

> >

> > Jupiter and Mercury were protecting me. Jupiter in

> > lagna aspects the 4th house and Lagna Lord Mercury was

> > exalted in the 4th house.

> >

> > Thanks, Rema

> >

> > --- supriti108 supriti108@ wrote:

> >

> > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > Dear Rema ji,

> > >

> > > First of all I am so glad you are doing OK.

> > >

> > > Then out of curiosity, were the trainers male or

> > > female? (Ju/Ve?)

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Supriti

> > >

> > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > remamenon@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > Dear Upendra ji,

> > > >

> > > > I was rescued by two trainers. My husband didnot

> > > know

> > > > that I had capsized because he was way ahead of

> > > me.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Rema

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- upendra_agni upendra.agni@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I personally feel it is Jupiter/Venus who saved

> > > Rema

> > > > > ji.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rema ji, Can you tell us who rescued you? By

> > > Your

> > > > > husband or By some

> > > > > trainer or By Some aged person?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Upendra

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , " supriti108 "

> > > > > <supriti108@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > Dear Rema ji, Upendra ji & Sourav,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Congratulations Upendra ji and Sourav!!!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I learnt a lot from this. Yes we are from the

> > > > > same state!!!!! I

> > > > > > live in Cary (near Raleigh).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will summarize what I learnt. OK, I was on

> > > the

> > > > > right path with

> > > > > the

> > > > > > planetary conglomeration in Virgo. " It is

> > > quiet

> > > > > powerful. Me is in

> > > > > > Ma's nakshatra in conjunction with Ma in Mo's

> > > > > nakshatra and Mo is

> > > > > in

> > > > > > its own nakshatra. Also this is conjunct Su

> > > and Ke

> > > > > both in Sun's

> > > > > > nakshatra. " The focus there could have been

> > > on Su

> > > > > or Mo.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I made a mistake in saying that you were going

> > > > > through Ju/Su

> > > > > > vimsottari dasa. You are actually going

> > > through

> > > > > Ju/Mo - that

> > > > > misled

> > > > > > me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anways, so since you are going through Ju/Mo.

> > > > > Lets look at Cn. It

> > > > > > hosts Sa in transit and trines from it is A8

> > > and

> > > > > Rh. So all the

> > > > > Jala

> > > > > > Rasi is afflicted.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Its easy for me to say now that Upendra ji has

> > > > > analyzed it

> > > > > correctly,

> > > > > > but I am rephrazing the analysis for other

> > > learner

> > > > > like myself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There are more questions:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. How do we ascertain that vayu caused the

> > > > > accident - because Sa

> > > > > > (vayu tattwa) was in Cn (Jala Rasi).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Also, how do we ascertain that Rema ji was

> > > > > rescued? exalted

> > > > > AL

> > > > > > lord in AL?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > Dear Upendra,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You have answered the quiz correctly.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I drowned in the Ocean. Was kayaking on

> > > Saturday

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > it turned windy and the kayak capsized. I

> > > was

> > > > > rescued,

> > > > > > > but it was a horrifying experience.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks, Rema

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- upendra_agni <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Have you drowned in water and somebody

> > > helped

> > > > > you?

> > > > > > > > Reason is Both

> > > > > > > > Saturn placement and A8 are in Jala Rasi.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please note that I am just looking at the

> > > > > transit

> > > > > > > > chart on that day &

> > > > > > > > time you have mentioned. I dont know if

> > > > > seeing an

> > > > > > > > event in this way

> > > > > > > > is wrong. Learned members pls correct me.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Upendra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon

> > > > > > > > <remamenon@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sourav,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You are right,I was myself curious as to

> > > how

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > verify

> > > > > > > > > the occurance of this event. It is not

> > > > > possible

> > > > > > > > > without absolute correct timing.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I wish Gurus would help.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It was an accident, but not vehicular.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > > > Rema

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- Sourav <souravc108@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Reema-ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > namaskar.

> > > > > > > > Judging

> > > > > > > > > > by the responses, it

> > > > > > > > > > seems like an accident (vehicular).

> > > Sani

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > transiting 8th from Chandra

> > > > > > > > > > and is related to accidents (in D-16

> > > > > chart).

> > > > > > > > Marakas

> > > > > > > > > > to the 4th house of

> > > > > > > > > > D-16 are also operational.

> > > Difficulties in

> > > > > job

> > > > > > > > > > during this dasa and

> > > > > > > > > > antar (Dwisaptati) is also not ruled

> > > out.

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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