Dasamsa Analysis :: some more doubts and Parivartana

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Respected Learned Members,

 

When I am trying to analyze my D-10 chart I found that 4 grahas are in Parivartana. I have given my chart details below.

I would like to know about the below.

 

1)It was told in COVA that if the Ascendant lord in 9th will give one to have a strong desire of doing business. For me Retrograded Saturn is in Virgo in 9th house. My doubt was being a malefic in 12th from 10th will this destruct the 9th bhava? What will be the results

 

2) There was an exchange between 4th and 6th House lords (Me in Aries, Ma® in Gemini) and also between 3rd and 7th house Lords (Mo in Pisces and Guru® exalted in Cancer) are in exchange. What will be this parivartana impact on this houses?

 

 

3) In COVA it was stated that any planet in 10th is good and it will give auspicious results. In my chart 10th House is Libra and its lord Venus and debiliated Sun and Rahu are in it. Will be there any negative impact because 10th lord associated with malefics and also will I lack administrative skills due to Sun in Neecha? Pls clarify.

 

 

4) I am unable to decide what will be my career in future because of Parivartana's. Please suggest me which would be profitable for me Service or Business?

 

 

Chart details:-

 

upendra

Natal Chart

January 19, 1978Time: 7:10:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 81 E 12' 00 " , 16 N 34' 00 " Kaikalur, IndiaAltitude: 0.00 meters

Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - PushyaTithi: Sukla Ekadasi (Ma) (78.03% left)Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (17.12% left)Yoga: Sukla (Mo) (54.02% left)Karana: Vanija (Ve) (

56.06% left)Hora Lord: Jupiter (5 min sign: Le)Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sc)Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)

Sunrise: 6:41:16Sunset: 17:50:37Janma Ghatis: 1.1974

Ayanamsa: 23-33-04.50Sidereal Time: 14:57:13

+--------------+|Ke Md | |Mo |JuR ||AL | | | || | | | || | | | |

| | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL Gk | |MaR || | | || | | |

| | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||As Su | |SaR ||Ve HL | | |

| | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Me | | |Ra |

| | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

+--------------+|Mo |As Gk |SaR Ra |HL || | | | || | | | |

| | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su Ve | |Me ||AL | | |

| | | || | | || | Navamsa | ||-----------| |-----------||GL | D-9 |Md |

| | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

| |JuR Ke | |MaR || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |

+--------------+ +--------------+|Mo HL |Me Ke |GL AL |MaR || | | | |

| | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | |JuR |

| | | || | | || | | || | Dasamsa | ||-----------| |-----------|

|As | D-10 | || | | || | | || | | || | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Md | |Su Ve |SaR Gk || | |Ra | || | | | || | | | |

| | | | |+--------------+

 

Regards,------------------------Upendra Agnihotram.

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Upendra, Just some general rules without looking at specifics on your chart. (Attach jhd chart for easier access). When Parivartana between 2 good bhaava happens then it's very good and it becomes yoga kaaraka. For example 9 and 10 etc. Best is exchange between trikona and quadrant.

When 2 houses like 2 and 11 exchange then also a great wealth is assured. But there maybe with some trouble to natives health, is what is what I have observered.Exchange between a dushtana and good is troublesome. Like Lagna and 8th parivartana, It's a like a you and a bad person committing to do each others work. This is very stressfull situation. In such situation it's very mandatory that you be in stronger position, This will then lead some good results by keeping in control the bad elements. A parivartana between good and bad house is like always walking on edge of sword, the moment the good lord becomes weak the bad person may have his say.

Then exchange between two bad houses can be good if both are weak as a consequence. Else it may work against the native.Warm RegardsSanjay POn 8/29/06, Upendra Agnihotram <upendra.agni wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Learned Members,

 

When I am trying to analyze my D-10 chart I found that 4 grahas are in Parivartana. I have given my chart details below.

I would like to know about the below.

 

1)It was told in COVA that if the Ascendant lord in 9th will give one to have a strong desire of doing business. For me Retrograded Saturn is in Virgo in 9th house. My doubt was being a malefic in 12th from 10th will this destruct the 9th bhava? What will be the results

 

2) There was an exchange between 4th and 6th House lords (Me in Aries, Ma® in Gemini) and also between 3rd and 7th house Lords (Mo in Pisces and Guru® exalted in Cancer) are in exchange. What will be this parivartana impact on this houses?

 

 

3) In COVA it was stated that any planet in 10th is good and it will give auspicious results. In my chart 10th House is Libra and its lord Venus and debiliated Sun and Rahu are in it. Will be there any negative impact because 10th lord associated with malefics and also will I lack administrative skills due to Sun in Neecha? Pls clarify.

 

 

4) I am unable to decide what will be my career in future because of Parivartana's. Please suggest me which would be profitable for me Service or Business?

 

 

Chart details:-

 

upendra

Natal Chart

January 19, 1978Time: 7:10:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 81 E 12' 00 " , 16 N 34' 00 " Kaikalur, IndiaAltitude: 0.00 meters

Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - PushyaTithi: Sukla Ekadasi (Ma) (78.03% left)Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (17.12% left)Yoga: Sukla (Mo) (54.02% left)Karana: Vanija (Ve) (

56.06% left)Hora Lord: Jupiter (5 min sign: Le)Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sc)Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)

Sunrise: 6:41:16Sunset: 17:50:37Janma Ghatis: 1.1974

Ayanamsa: 23-33-04.50Sidereal Time: 14:57:13

+--------------+|Ke Md | |Mo |JuR ||AL | | | || | | | || | | | |

| | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL Gk | |MaR || | | || | | |

| | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||As Su | |SaR ||Ve HL | | |

| | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Me | | |Ra |

| | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+

+--------------+|Mo |As Gk |SaR Ra |HL || | | | || | | | |

| | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su Ve | |Me ||AL | | |

| | | || | | || | Navamsa | ||-----------| |-----------||GL | D-9 |Md |

| | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

| |JuR Ke | |MaR || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |

+--------------+ +--------------+|Mo HL |Me Ke |GL AL |MaR || | | | |

| | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | |JuR |

| | | || | | || | | || | Dasamsa | ||-----------| |-----------|

|As | D-10 | || | | || | | || | | || | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Md | |Su Ve |SaR Gk || | |Ra | || | | | || | | | |

| | | | |+--------------+

 

Regards,------------------------Upendra Agnihotram.

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|| Hare Rama Krsna ||

Dear Rema-ji,

Namaskar. This is quite good as this is a Guru-sishya yoga as well as Simhasana yoga also. Budha gets neechabhanga from Guru being in Lagna. Further Guru is kendra to Paakalagna and given subhaargala to it. Further if the native goes into professions related to Guru like teaching, planning, laws etc, Budha gets strength as the neechabhanga becomes more effective.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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varahamihira , Rema Menon <remamenon wrote:>> Hare Rama Krishna,> Dear Sanjay,> > How about when the exchange is between two good houses> like 1 and 10, but one graha is debilitated.> > eg:> Jupiter in Gemini(1st house) and Mercury in> Pisces(10th house).> > Thanks, > Rema> > --- Sanjay Prabhakaran sanjaychettiar wrote:> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > Dear Upendra,> > > > Just some general rules without looking at> > specifics on your chart. (Attach> > jhd chart for easier access).> > > > When Parivartana between 2 good bhaava happens then> > it's very good and it> > becomes yoga kaaraka. For example 9 and 10 etc. Best> > is exchange between> > trikona and quadrant.> > > > When 2 houses like 2 and 11 exchange then also a> > great wealth is assured.> > But there maybe with some trouble to natives health,> > is what is what I have> > observered.> > > > Exchange between a dushtana and good is troublesome.> > Like Lagna and 8th> > parivartana, It's a like a you and a bad person> > committing to do each others> > work. This is very stressfull situation. In such> > situation it's very> > mandatory that you be in stronger position, This> > will then lead some good> > results by keeping in control the bad elements. A> > parivartana between good> > and bad house is like always walking on edge of> > sword, the moment the good> > lord becomes weak the bad person may have his say.> > > > Then exchange between two bad houses can be good if> > both are weak as a> > consequence. Else it may work against the native.> > > > Warm Regards> > Sanjay P> > > > > > > > > > On 8/29/06, Upendra Agnihotram> > upendra.agni wrote:> > >> > > Respected Learned Members,> > >> > > When I am trying to analyze my D-10 chart I found> > that 4 grahas are in> > > Parivartana. I have given my chart details below.> > > I would like to know about the below.> > >> > > 1)It was told in COVA that if the Ascendant lord> > in 9th will give one to> > > have a strong desire of doing business. For me> > Retrograded Saturn is in> > > Virgo in 9th house. My doubt was being a malefic> > in 12th from 10th will this> > > destruct the 9th bhava? What will be the results> > >> > > 2) There was an exchange between 4th and 6th House> > lords (Me in Aries,> > > Ma® in Gemini) and also between 3rd and 7th> > house Lords (Mo in Pisces and> > > Guru® exalted in Cancer) are in exchange. What> > will be this parivartana> > > impact on this houses?> > >> > > 3) In COVA it was stated that any planet in 10th> > is good and it will give> > > auspicious results. In my chart 10th House is> > Libra and its lord Venus and> > > debiliated Sun and Rahu are in it. Will be there> > any negative impact because> > > 10th lord associated with malefics and also will I> > lack administrative> > > skills due to Sun in Neecha? Pls clarify.> > >> > > 4) I am unable to decide what will be my career in> > future because of> > > Parivartana's. Please suggest me which would be> > profitable for me Service or> > > Business?> > >> > >> > > *Chart details:-*> > >> > > upendra> > >> > > Natal Chart> > >> > > January 19, 1978> > > Time: 7:10:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 81 E 12' 00", 16 N 34' 00"> > > Kaikalur, India> > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > >> > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - Pushya> > > Tithi: Sukla Ekadasi (Ma) (78.03% left)> > > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)> > > Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (17.12% left)> > > Yoga: Sukla (Mo) (54.02% left)> > > Karana: Vanija (Ve) ( 56.06% left)> > > Hora Lord: Jupiter (5 min sign: Le)> > > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sc)> > > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)> > >> > > Sunrise: 6:41:16> > > Sunset: 17:50:37> > > Janma Ghatis: 1.1974> > >> > > Ayanamsa: 23-33-04.50> > > Sidereal Time: 14:57:13> > >> > > +--------------+> > > |Ke Md | |Mo |JuR |> > > |AL | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > |GL Gk | |MaR |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > |-----------| Rasi |-----------|> > > |As Su | |SaR |> > > |Ve HL | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > |Me | | |Ra |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > +--------------+> > >> > > +--------------+> > > |Mo |As Gk |SaR Ra |HL |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > |Su Ve | |Me |> > > |AL | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | Navamsa | |> > > |-----------| |-----------|> > > |GL | D-9 |Md |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > | |JuR Ke | |MaR |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > +--------------+> > >> > > +--------------+> > > |Mo HL |Me Ke |GL AL |MaR |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > | | |JuR |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | Dasamsa | |> > > |-----------| |-----------|> > > |As | D-10 | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > | | | |> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > |Md | |Su Ve |SaR Gk |> > > | | |Ra | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > | | | | |> > > +--------------+> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > >> >> ------------------------> > > Upendra Agnihotram.> > >> > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > > >

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|| Vyam Vyasadevaya Namaha ||

 

Respected Sanjay ji,

 

I had attached my jhd chart for easier access.

 

I observed the parivartana between 4th and 6th lords from Lagna are the parivartana between two natural bad lords (because Me is with Ketu and Mars® is a natural malefic).

 

But this will be 2nd and 4th from Moon who is also in HL.

But the Parivartana between 3rd and 7th Lords are between two natural good lords (Moon and exalted Guru®)

Again this will be 1st and 4th from Moon.

 

Please let me know should we consider Chandra Lagna or Natal Lagna for this case?

 

Regards,

Upendra

On 8/29/06, Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Upendra, Just some general rules without looking at specifics on your chart. (Attach jhd chart for easier access). When Parivartana between 2 good bhaava happens then it's very good and it becomes yoga kaaraka. For example 9 and 10 etc. Best is exchange between trikona and quadrant. When 2 houses like 2 and 11 exchange then also a great wealth is assured. But there maybe with some trouble to natives health, is what is what I have observered.Exchange between a dushtana and good is troublesome. Like Lagna and 8th parivartana, It's a like a you and a bad person committing to do each others work. This is very stressfull situation. In such situation it's very mandatory that you be in stronger position, This will then lead some good results by keeping in control the bad elements. A parivartana between good and bad house is like always walking on edge of sword, the moment the good lord becomes weak the bad person may have his say. Then exchange between two bad houses can be good if both are weak as a consequence. Else it may work against the native.Warm RegardsSanjay P

 

On 8/29/06, Upendra Agnihotram <upendra.agni

> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Learned Members,

 

When I am trying to analyze my D-10 chart I found that 4 grahas are in Parivartana. I have given my chart details below.

I would like to know about the below.

 

1)It was told in COVA that if the Ascendant lord in 9th will give one to have a strong desire of doing business. For me Retrograded Saturn is in Virgo in 9th house. My doubt was being a malefic in 12th from 10th will this destruct the 9th bhava? What will be the results

 

2) There was an exchange between 4th and 6th House lords (Me in Aries, Ma® in Gemini) and also between 3rd and 7th house Lords (Mo in Pisces and Guru® exalted in Cancer) are in exchange. What will be this parivartana impact on this houses?

 

3) In COVA it was stated that any planet in 10th is good and it will give auspicious results. In my chart 10th House is Libra and its lord Venus and debiliated Sun and Rahu are in it. Will be there any negative impact because 10th lord associated with malefics and also will I lack administrative skills due to Sun in Neecha? Pls clarify.

 

4) I am unable to decide what will be my career in future because of Parivartana's. Please suggest me which would be profitable for me Service or Business?

 

 

Chart details:-

 

upendra

Natal Chart

January 19, 1978Time: 7:10:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 81 E 12' 00 " , 16 N 34' 00 " Kaikalur, IndiaAltitude: 0.00 meters

Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - PushyaTithi: Sukla Ekadasi (Ma) (78.03% left)Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (17.12% left)Yoga: Sukla (Mo) (54.02% left)Karana: Vanija (Ve) ( 56.06% left)Hora Lord: Jupiter (5 min sign: Le)Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sc)Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)

Sunrise: 6:41:16Sunset: 17:50:37Janma Ghatis: 1.1974

Ayanamsa: 23-33-04.50Sidereal Time: 14:57:13

+--------------+|Ke Md | |Mo |JuR ||AL | | | || | | | || | | | | | | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL Gk | |MaR || | | || | | | | | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||As Su | |SaR ||Ve HL | | | | | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Me | | |Ra | | | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Mo |As Gk |SaR Ra |HL || | | | || | | | |

| | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su Ve | |Me ||AL | | | | | | || | | || | Navamsa | ||-----------| |-----------||GL | D-9 |Md | | | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | |JuR Ke | |MaR || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | | +--------------+ +--------------+|Mo HL |Me Ke |GL AL |MaR || | | | |

| | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | |JuR | | | | || | | || | | || | Dasamsa | ||-----------| |-----------| |As | D-10 | || | | || | | || | | || | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Md | |Su Ve |SaR Gk || | |Ra | || | | | || | | | | | | | | |+--------------+

 

Regards,------------------------Upendra Agnihotram.

 

 

-- Regards,

------------------------Upendra Agnihotram.

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Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Sourav,

Thanks.

Rema

 

--- Sourav <souravc108 wrote:

 

>

> || Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Rema-ji,

>

> Namaskar. This is quite

> good as this is a

> Guru-sishya yoga as well as Simhasana yoga also.

> Budha gets neechabhanga

> from Guru being in Lagna. Further Guru is kendra to

> Paakalagna and given

> subhaargala to it. Further if the native goes into

> professions related

> to Guru like teaching, planning, laws etc, Budha

> gets strength as the

> neechabhanga becomes more effective.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

>

===============================================================

>

>

>

>

> varahamihira , Rema Menon

> <remamenon wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > Dear Sanjay,

> >

> > How about when the exchange is between two good

> houses

> > like 1 and 10, but one graha is debilitated.

> >

> > eg:

> > Jupiter in Gemini(1st house) and Mercury in

> > Pisces(10th house).

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Rema

> >

> > --- Sanjay Prabhakaran sanjaychettiar

> > wrote:

> >

> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > Dear Upendra,

> > >

> > > Just some general rules without looking at

> > > specifics on your chart. (Attach

> > > jhd chart for easier access).

> > >

> > > When Parivartana between 2 good bhaava happens

> then

> > > it's very good and it

> > > becomes yoga kaaraka. For example 9 and 10 etc.

> Best

> > > is exchange between

> > > trikona and quadrant.

> > >

> > > When 2 houses like 2 and 11 exchange then also a

> > > great wealth is assured.

> > > But there maybe with some trouble to natives

> health,

> > > is what is what I have

> > > observered.

> > >

> > > Exchange between a dushtana and good is

> troublesome.

> > > Like Lagna and 8th

> > > parivartana, It's a like a you and a bad person

> > > committing to do each others

> > > work. This is very stressfull situation. In such

> > > situation it's very

> > > mandatory that you be in stronger position, This

> > > will then lead some good

> > > results by keeping in control the bad elements.

> A

> > > parivartana between good

> > > and bad house is like always walking on edge of

> > > sword, the moment the good

> > > lord becomes weak the bad person may have his

> say.

> > >

> > > Then exchange between two bad houses can be good

> if

> > > both are weak as a

> > > consequence. Else it may work against the

> native.

> > >

> > > Warm Regards

> > > Sanjay P

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On 8/29/06, Upendra Agnihotram

> > > upendra.agni wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Learned Members,

> > > >

> > > > When I am trying to analyze my D-10 chart I

> found

> > > that 4 grahas are in

> > > > Parivartana. I have given my chart details

> below.

> > > > I would like to know about the below.

> > > >

> > > > 1)It was told in COVA that if the Ascendant

> lord

> > > in 9th will give one to

> > > > have a strong desire of doing business. For me

> > > Retrograded Saturn is in

> > > > Virgo in 9th house. My doubt was being a

> malefic

> > > in 12th from 10th will this

> > > > destruct the 9th bhava? What will be the

> results

> > > >

> > > > 2) There was an exchange between 4th and 6th

> House

> > > lords (Me in Aries,

> > > > Ma® in Gemini) and also between 3rd and 7th

> > > house Lords (Mo in Pisces and

> > > > Guru® exalted in Cancer) are in exchange.

> What

> > > will be this parivartana

> > > > impact on this houses?

> > > >

> > > > 3) In COVA it was stated that any planet in

> 10th

> > > is good and it will give

> > > > auspicious results. In my chart 10th House is

> > > Libra and its lord Venus and

> > > > debiliated Sun and Rahu are in it. Will be

> there

> > > any negative impact because

> > > > 10th lord associated with malefics and also

> will I

> > > lack administrative

> > > > skills due to Sun in Neecha? Pls clarify.

> > > >

> > > > 4) I am unable to decide what will be my

> career in

> > > future because of

> > > > Parivartana's. Please suggest me which would

> be

> > > profitable for me Service or

> > > > Business?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > *Chart details:-*

> > > >

> > > > upendra

> > > >

> > > > Natal Chart

> > > >

> > > > January 19, 1978

> > > > Time: 7:10:00

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 81 E 12' 00 " , 16 N 34' 00 "

> > > > Kaikalur, India

> > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> > > >

> > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - Pushya

> > > > Tithi: Sukla Ekadasi (Ma) (78.03% left)

> > > > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)

> > > > Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (17.12% left)

> > > > Yoga: Sukla (Mo) (54.02% left)

> > > > Karana: Vanija (Ve) ( 56.06% left)

> > > > Hora Lord: Jupiter (5 min sign: Le)

> > > > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Sc)

> > > > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)

> > > >

> > > > Sunrise: 6:41:16

> > > > Sunset: 17:50:37

> > > > Janma Ghatis: 1.1974

> > > >

> > > > Ayanamsa: 23-33-04.50

> > > > Sidereal Time: 14:57:13

> > > >

> > > >

> +--------------+

> > > > |Ke Md | |Mo |JuR |

> > > > |AL | | | |

> > > > | | | | |

> > > > | | | | |

> > > > | | | | |

> > > >

> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> > > > |GL Gk | |MaR |

> > > > | | | |

> > > > | | | |

> > > > | | | |

> > > > | | | |

> > > > |-----------| Rasi |-----------|

> > > > |As Su | |SaR |

> > > > |Ve HL | | |

> > > > | | | |

> > > > | | | |

>

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