Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Dear Members, Before Visti renders an opinion, a thought or two on this. Dosha and Shrapa do affect the Bhava very seriously. I feel I have direct experience of the same. My birth data for reference to judge this e- mail better: 11th June, 1972; 10:17:16 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, India. The Matri Shrapa caused by Rahu, Shani and Sun (Amavasya Dosha) is in the 10th House. From the regular way of judging are area where the suffering would be experienced, the 6th House emerges. While this is true, the 10th House has also shown tremendous suffering. This is accurately timed from the Rahu Moola Dasha using the default settings in JHora: taking the Lagna, Moon and Sun (as stated by Narasimha to have been advised by Kalyan Varma and Varahamihira) as starting points. Though the 6th House of daily work has been the area where the suffering has been experienced, the 10th House affliction leading to humiliation of an utterly unjustified sort (Rahu; Amavasya) in the attempts to get a job (Shani-Chandra Yoga) has manifested very strongly. Hurt to the self-respect, emotions, happiness have all manifested. See the involvement of the Lagnesh and AK impeding the free emotional evolution, in my estimate. The demise of the father in May, 1975 can be timed using the Moola Dasha, Rashi Chakra and the D-60. The Karaka of the Paka Lagna is strong and the Lagnesh is also the AK, so everything has worked out alright for the intellect (Paka Lagna made strong by the AK, making for Jnana Marga as an attempt to understand the world, and Shani-Chandra Yoga is in the 10th House, so that positive potential should also be seen. Be that as it may, in the Sade-Sati, and till remedies were done for the Amavasya Dosha, the Shrapa in the 10th refused to budge. Then, suddenly work in the highest Court of the land came about along with Jyotish practice. It is only an alleviation of the Amavasya Dosha, the relief from Sade-Sati having passed that work, being seen as a working entity in society, (10th House) have come to pass. The mental suffering from Shadripu and delusion was only in Rahu Vimshottari Mahadasha and though the absence of work justified the area of the suffering being the 6th House, being the stronger of the two owned by Shani, the real mental suffering came from the repeated failure and Karmic, Poorva Janma hurt, humiliation, shock and depraved behaviour from those who were approached to help with the career situation. This is the work of the Rahu Moola Dasha, completely qualified to deliver the curse. Rahu is with Neecha Lagnesh Surya in the D-60 and aspected by Neecha Shani and Ketu from the 9th. This means the AK Sun will give the results of the Moola Dasha as far as past Karma goes. Therefore, in the same huge Rahu Moola Dasha, Jyotish has come, not through the BK Rahu, but through the AK Sun, putting one on the path that was deviated from in Poorva Janma. However, Rahu is unconjoined in Rashi, giving its own results. Saturn and Ketu are in the 9th and protect, ensuring the suffering is basically for cleansing. Rahu has not been propitiated but recourse to Sri Rama, the vishnu Avatar seen from the AK, Lagnesh Sun is being taken through the Rama Taraka Mantra. Another interesting feature is that though Ketu is in the 12th in Rashi and from Karakamsha, Sri Rama has allowed the act which invited the curse to be remedied through His Name as he is 12th Lord from Karakamsha in the Karakamsha Lagna! Perhaps it is because the act was not horrible, shown by exalted Moon in Kendra. I hope I have not rambled on too much but this aspect of Jyotish interests me a lot, apart from everything else of course. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com , " Jyotisa Shisya " <achyutagaddi wrote: > > |om| > Dear Visti, namaste > > While you are on this topic, I request you to explain about *bhava shaapa *and > how to judge if it is serious enough to impact the fortunes of the bhava. > What are the standard remedies for the bhava shaapa? I remember Sarbani has > done some work in this regard but it would be nice to hear a few words from > you on this. > > best regards > Hari > > > > On 8/27/06, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > > *||Hare Rama Krsna||* > > Dear Students, Namaskar > > Some clarification is needed. Dosha is an affliction due to circumstances > > or sorrow which doens't arise due to evil-deeds, but mistakes and bad > > lifestyle. If you don't brush your teeth, they will become weak and fall out > > - this is dosha or weakness/affliction. A shaapa happens if you knock > > someone elses teeth out - this earns you a shaapa or curse. > > > > A *Pitri Shaapa *happens when the Sun is involved in a curse. I.e. > > afflicted by two or more malefics. This usually causes suffering to the > > father or paternal relatives. The problem will specifically come from the > > house where the Sun is placed. I.e. in the chart of Sri Rama, the Sun is > > afflicted in the tenth house, and Sri Ramas father had to see the sorrow of > > his son being exhiled, and not being there at his death-bed. The issue was > > the kingdom/throne itself which is seen from the tenth house placement of > > the Sun (in simhasana yoga). > > > > A *Pitri Dosha* happens when the ancestors are unhappy, and occurs when > > the nodes (spirits/the dead) are joined Saturn, showing the sorrow of the > > dead afflicting oneself. Should Mars instead join a node, then its the anger > > of the dead (pisacha dosha). This causes yogas involved with these yogas to > > be stuck and/or not arise. The life is a constant effort to overcome a debt > > of sorts. > > The remedy for the former (shani-node yoga) lies in offering water to the > > pitris with the Astakshari-Suryaaditya mantra: Om Ghrini SuryaAaditya|| > > > > Then there is *Pitri badhaka*, where the native earns the anger or sorrow > > of their parents in this life itself, and this causes obstacles to their > > succes. This happens when the Badhaka is associated with the Sun (father) or > > Moon (mother) as these are ALSO associated with Saturn (sorrow) or Mars > > (anger) in rasi or navamsa. > > > > All these relate to ones ancestors, parents and forefathers, and should > > not be confused with the word 'Putra' which means children, or 'Preta' which > > means the dead, or deceased. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen <- ? subject=Un> > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Hari and Anurag, Namaskar When you study curses, you find that the placement of the cursed planet also has a profound effect, and thus we are referring to the bhava where the curse is occuring. Invariably i have found that this bhava shows the issue of the curse. Take Sri Ramas chart. Because an 'allied' curse is on the father (sun) in the tenth house, it shows the issue for the fathers sorrow and problems is the issue of the throneship (tenth house). The whole problem was that the queen of Dasaratha wanted the thrown for her own son and for this reason wanted Sri Rama banished. Had the Sun not been placed there, the issue of the throne would still arise, but the suffering to the father would not have arisen. So bhava shaapa definitely is important, but i cannot say that the results are as intense as a graha-shaapa. Infact bhava shaapa is more like a dosha. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Anurag Sharma29 August 2006 11:41sohamsa Subject: Bhava Shrapa Dear Members,Before Visti renders an opinion, a thought or two on this. Dosha and Shrapa do affect the Bhava very seriously. I feel I have direct experience of the same. My birth data for reference to judge this e-mail better: 11th June, 1972; 10:17:16 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, India.The Matri Shrapa caused by Rahu, Shani and Sun (Amavasya Dosha) is in the 10th House. From the regular way of judging are area where the suffering would be experienced, the 6th House emerges. While this is true, the 10th House has also shown tremendous suffering. This is accurately timed from the Rahu Moola Dasha using the default settings in JHora: taking the Lagna, Moon and Sun (as stated by Narasimha to have been advised by Kalyan Varma and Varahamihira) as starting points. Though the 6th House of daily work has been the area where the suffering has been experienced, the 10th House affliction leading to humiliation of an utterly unjustified sort (Rahu; Amavasya) in the attempts to get a job (Shani-Chandra Yoga) has manifested very strongly. Hurt to the self-respect, emotions, happiness have all manifested. See the involvement of the Lagnesh and AK impeding the free emotional evolution, in my estimate. The demise of the father in May, 1975 can be timed using the Moola Dasha, Rashi Chakra and the D-60. The Karaka of the Paka Lagna is strong and the Lagnesh is also the AK, so everything has worked out alright for the intellect (Paka Lagna made strong by the AK, making for Jnana Marga as an attempt to understand the world, and Shani-Chandra Yoga is in the 10th House, so that positive potential should also be seen.Be that as it may, in the Sade-Sati, and till remedies were done for the Amavasya Dosha, the Shrapa in the 10th refused to budge. Then, suddenly work in the highest Court of the land came about along with Jyotish practice. It is only an alleviation of the Amavasya Dosha, the relief from Sade-Sati having passed that work, being seen as a working entity in society, (10th House) have come to pass. The mental suffering from Shadripu and delusion was only in Rahu Vimshottari Mahadasha and though the absence of work justified the area of the suffering being the 6th House, being the stronger of the two owned by Shani, the real mental suffering came from the repeated failure and Karmic, Poorva Janma hurt, humiliation, shock and depraved behaviour from those who were approached to help with the career situation. This is the work of the Rahu Moola Dasha, completely qualified to deliver the curse. Rahu is with Neecha Lagnesh Surya in the D-60 and aspected by Neecha Shani and Ketu from the 9th.This means the AK Sun will give the results of the Moola Dasha as far as past Karma goes. Therefore, in the same huge Rahu Moola Dasha, Jyotish has come, not through the BK Rahu, but through the AK Sun, putting one on the path that was deviated from in Poorva Janma.However, Rahu is unconjoined in Rashi, giving its own results. Saturn and Ketu are in the 9th and protect, ensuring the suffering is basically for cleansing. Rahu has not been propitiated but recourse to Sri Rama, the vishnu Avatar seen from the AK, Lagnesh Sun is being taken through the Rama Taraka Mantra. Another interesting feature is that though Ketu is in the 12th in Rashi and from Karakamsha, Sri Rama has allowed the act which invited the curse to be remedied through His Name as he is 12th Lord from Karakamsha in the Karakamsha Lagna!Perhaps it is because the act was not horrible, shown by exalted Moon in Kendra. I hope I have not rambled on too much but this aspect of Jyotish interests me a lot, apart from everything else of course.Regards,Anurag Sharmahttp://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com , "Jyotisa Shisya" <achyutagaddi wrote:>> |om|> Dear Visti, namaste> > While you are on this topic, I request you to explain about *bhava shaapa *and> how to judge if it is serious enough to impact the fortunes of the bhava.> What are the standard remedies for the bhava shaapa? I remember Sarbani has> done some work in this regard but it would be nice to hear a few words from> you on this.> > best regards> Hari> > > > On 8/27/06, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:> >> > *||Hare Rama Krsna||*> > Dear Students, Namaskar> > Some clarification is needed. Dosha is an affliction due to circumstances> > or sorrow which doens't arise due to evil-deeds, but mistakes and bad> > lifestyle. If you don't brush your teeth, they will become weak and fall out> > - this is dosha or weakness/affliction. A shaapa happens if you knock> > someone elses teeth out - this earns you a shaapa or curse.> >> > A *Pitri Shaapa *happens when the Sun is involved in a curse. I.e.> > afflicted by two or more malefics. This usually causes suffering to the> > father or paternal relatives. The problem will specifically come from the> > house where the Sun is placed. I.e. in the chart of Sri Rama, the Sun is> > afflicted in the tenth house, and Sri Ramas father had to see the sorrow of> > his son being exhiled, and not being there at his death-bed. The issue was> > the kingdom/throne itself which is seen from the tenth house placement of> > the Sun (in simhasana yoga).> >> > A *Pitri Dosha* happens when the ancestors are unhappy, and occurs when> > the nodes (spirits/the dead) are joined Saturn, showing the sorrow of the> > dead afflicting oneself. Should Mars instead join a node, then its the anger> > of the dead (pisacha dosha). This causes yogas involved with these yogas to> > be stuck and/or not arise. The life is a constant effort to overcome a debt> > of sorts.> > The remedy for the former (shani-node yoga) lies in offering water to the> > pitris with the Astakshari-Suryaaditya mantra: Om Ghrini SuryaAaditya||> >> > Then there is *Pitri badhaka*, where the native earns the anger or sorrow> > of their parents in this life itself, and this causes obstacles to their> > succes. This happens when the Badhaka is associated with the Sun (father) or> > Moon (mother) as these are ALSO associated with Saturn (sorrow) or Mars> > (anger) in rasi or navamsa.> >> > All these relate to ones ancestors, parents and forefathers, and should> > not be confused with the word 'Putra' which means children, or 'Preta' which> > means the dead, or deceased.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen <- ?subject=Un>> > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Hari, Namaskar You didn't catch the point. If Bhava is the issue of a curse, then Bhava Shaapa causes problems due to that issue. For example: curse on the seventh house (without any planets) causes problems to either get married or causes disturbances from outside elements in the marriage. Is that not what your issue is?.. no person has brought the issue just circumstances. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** On Behalf Of Jyotisa Shisya29 August 2006 14:08 Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] RE: Bhava Shrapa |om| Dear Visti and Anurag, namaste Thanks for your views on bhava shaapa. Of course, you both are talking about the bhava where all the 'action' is happening i.e., where the cursed planet is. Your point that the bhava in focus will show the circumstances that activate the curse is understood well. I refer to the other situation namely two or more malefics having graha dristi on a bhava. For example in my chart, the 7th house in both rasi (Sani and Rahu) and navamsa (Mangal & Rahu) is under the influence of two malefics while the 7th lord & kalatrakaraka is under the gaze of two malefics in both rasi (Sun and Rahu) & navamsa (Sani and Rahu) The rasi chart will show the circumstances triggering those malefic influences while the navamsa shows the person who will deliver the blows. It is very easy to make out that Rahu is the common factor and usually indicates a widow. Mangal is the AK and with the current dasa of Mangal itself, it shows that the destiny is sure to operate. Among Sun and Sani, the latter is debilitated in navamsa despite being conjoined an exalted Sun...being in 7th house of rasi and the MK as well, it shows a mother-like person who will introduce me to a widow. Yes, that indeed happened and the engagement was broken off by the widow. Hopefully the karmas latent in this situation have been fulfilled and I am now free to sail on the samsarasagaarasya. Sanjay was very proud that I came out of the situation relatively unscathed entirely due to Guru's grace, the most benevolent Lord Shiva that sits in lagna and guards the native. But Visti, you are right...the pachakadi sambandha between Ma and Me remains to be corrected. Perhaps not dasamahavidya worship for now but maybe Devi Mahatmyam helps? Have just learnt how to do the Chandi patha under a qualified person. I wonder though on seeing that Me (DK) is in the MKS from AK Ma in navamsa...am I destined to have a smooth relationship at all? best regards Hari On 8/29/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Hari and Anurag, Namaskar When you study curses, you find that the placement of the cursed planet also has a profound effect, and thus we are referring to the bhava where the curse is occuring. Invariably i have found that this bhava shows the issue of the curse. Take Sri Ramas chart. Because an 'allied' curse is on the father (sun) in the tenth house, it shows the issue for the fathers sorrow and problems is the issue of the throneship (tenth house). The whole problem was that the queen of Dasaratha wanted the thrown for her own son and for this reason wanted Sri Rama banished. Had the Sun not been placed there, the issue of the throne would still arise, but the suffering to the father would not have arisen. So bhava shaapa definitely is important, but i cannot say that the results are as intense as a graha-shaapa. Infact bhava shaapa is more like a dosha. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Srivastava, Namaskar Yes, Bhasin was a very sincere writer. I like his translation of Sarvartha Chintamani. Reading your questions i find that there is a lack of definition between Bhava, Bhavesha and Karaka. Please go through Jaimini-SJC discussions of 25th Feb, 4th march. You can find them here: http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini1.htm As for Parasaras definition. When i enquired about the same, i was taught that the Fifth house is one of the more important bhavas in a chart, and thus curses involving it really shape this life itself, and most clearly the offspring. He has given the definition and its upto us to understand the full usage of the dictums. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** On Behalf Of R.C.Srivastava01 September 2006 14:25 Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] RE: Bhava Shrapa *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||* Dear Visti, Nameste. Recently i read difference between curse and shrapa.Now Graha shaapa and Bhava shrap is under discussion.I recall and refer PDF describing Curses and Evils supplied ( one page )with Workshop in 2003 or so. This has confused me a a lot.Why? Q.V. Before i was exposed to teachings of SJC , i knew only that if house , house lord and karka are together afflicted and or weak some serious trouble is in seed form and evil results may fructify in related adverse dasa bhukti for matter s o related. Sh Jagannath Bhasin a old writer taught , if you see on a house and on its lord combined dristi of Saturn mars and / or Rahu be alert and sure some serious trouble is going to be experienced in life by native. Now with so many terms of Curse shraap and evils , your illumination will be a welcome addition if thread bare it is clarified that various combinations means what. What i mean is 1 Any house and its lord are in yuti and dristi of Sat/mars/Node either two ar all. 2 Any house and its lord along with some Karka out of Eight planets( excluding Ketu) are in Yuti and dristi of Sat/Mars/Node either two ao all of them. 3 Any set of House its lord but a karaka representing other matter out of Eight planets( excluding Ketu) are in Yuti and dristi of Sat/Mars/Node either two ao all of them.Here i mean House and its lord are not having afflicted planet as its Karka. 4 What if in above AK is involved and not involved. 5 Why Parashar discussed shrappa only causing lack or difficulty in getting children and did not hinted directly the way we define wrath of various relations and timing with Mool dasa in his classic. Please reply only the part you feel happy about. Thanking in anticipation. || May all people be happy ||OM TAT SATR.C.Srivastava .swami_rcs mob 9412268768http://www.cosmograce.comhttp://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com - Visti Larsen Friday, September 01, 2006 4:48 PM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] RE: Bhava Shrapa ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Narender, Namaskar When 2 or more malefics aspect a graha, it is Graha shaapa where a person is cursing you. When 2 or more malefics aspect a bhava, Hari has called it Bhava Shaapa, but really it means some dosha is there which is arising from a graha shaapa. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** On Behalf Of Narender mahendra01 September 2006 11:41 Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] RE: Bhava Shrapa OM GURAVE NAMAHDear Visti namaskar,I had met u in the Hyderabad ("Venakatesha Sharmaworkshop on varga chakras).whenever u find time please reply as to what is "bhavashapa" and "gruha shapa".--- Visti Larsen <visti@s rigaruda.com> wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Hari, Namaskar> You didn't catch the point. If Bhava is the issue of> a curse, then Bhava> Shaapa causes problems due to that issue. For> example: curse on the seventh> house (without any planets) causes problems to> either get married or causes> disturbances from outside elements in the marriage.> Is that not what your> issue is?.. no person has brought the issue just> circumstances.> Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com> ***> > > _____ > > > On> Behalf Of Jyotisa Shisya> 29 August 2006 14:08> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] RE: Bhava> Shrapa> > > > > |om|> Dear Visti and Anurag, namaste> > Thanks for your views on bhava shaapa. Of course,> you both are talking about> the bhava where all the 'action' is happening i.e.,> where the cursed planet> is. Your point that the bhava in focus will show the> circumstances that> activate the curse is understood well. > > I refer to the other situation namely two or more> malefics having graha> dristi on a bhava. For example in my chart, the 7th> house in both rasi> (Sani and Rahu) and navamsa (Mangal & Rahu) is under> the influence of two> malefics while the 7th lord & kalatrakaraka is under> the gaze of two> malefics in both rasi (Sun and Rahu) & navamsa (Sani> and Rahu) The rasi> chart will show the circumstances triggering those> malefic influences while> the navamsa shows the person who will deliver the> blows. It is very easy to> make out that Rahu is the common factor and usually> indicates a widow.> Mangal is the AK and with the current dasa of Mangal> itself, it shows that> the destiny is sure to operate. Among Sun and Sani,> the latter is> debilitated in navamsa despite being conjoined an> exalted Sun...being in 7th> house of rasi and the MK as well, it shows a> mother-like person who will> introduce me to a widow. Yes, that indeed happened> and the engagement was> broken off by the widow. Hopefully the karmas latent> in this situation have> been fulfilled and I am now free to sail on the> samsarasagaarasya. Sanjay> was very proud that I came out of the situation> relatively unscathed> entirely due to Guru's grace, the most benevolent> Lord Shiva that sits in> lagna and guards the native. > > But Visti, you are right...the pachakadi sambandha> between Ma and Me remains> to be corrected. Perhaps not dasamahavidya worship> for now but maybe Devi> Mahatmyam helps? Have just learnt how to do the> Chandi patha under a> qualified person. I wonder though on seeing that Me> (DK) is in the MKS from> AK Ma in navamsa...am I destined to have a smooth> relationship at all? > > best regards> Hari> > > > > On 8/29/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> com>> wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Hari and Anurag, Namaskar> When you study curses, you find that the placement> of the cursed planet also> has a profound effect, and thus we are referring to> the bhava where the> curse is occuring. Invariably i have found that this> bhava shows the issue> of the curse. Take Sri Ramas chart. Because an> 'allied' curse is on the> father (sun) in the tenth house, it shows the issue> for the fathers sorrow> and problems is the issue of the throneship (tenth> house). The whole problem> was that the queen of Dasaratha wanted the thrown> for her own son and for> this reason wanted Sri Rama banished. > Had the Sun not been placed there, the issue of the> throne would still> arise, but the suffering to the father would not> have arisen.> So bhava shaapa definitely is important, but i> cannot say that the results> are as intense as a graha-shaapa. Infact bhava> shaapa is more like a dosha.> Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> > > > > > > ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something newhttp://in.answers./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 vedic astrology , " Anurag Sharma " <anuraagsharma27 wrote: > > Dear Members, > > Before Visti renders an opinion, a thought or two on this. Dosha and > Shrapa do affect the Bhava very seriously. I feel I have direct > experience of the same. My birth data for reference to judge this e- > mail better: 11th June, 1972; 10:17:16 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, India. > > The Matri Shrapa caused by Rahu, Shani and Sun (Amavasya Dosha) is > in the 10th House. From the regular way of judging are area where > the suffering would be experienced, the 6th House emerges. While > this is true, the 10th House has also shown tremendous suffering. > This is accurately timed from the Rahu Moola Dasha using the default > settings in JHora: taking the Lagna, Moon and Sun (as stated by > Narasimha to have been advised by Kalyan Varma and Varahamihira) as > starting points. > > Though the 6th House of daily work has been the area where the > suffering has been experienced, the 10th House affliction leading to > humiliation of an utterly unjustified sort (Rahu; Amavasya) in the > attempts to get a job (Shani-Chandra Yoga) has manifested very > strongly. > > Hurt to the self-respect, emotions, happiness have all manifested. > See the involvement of the Lagnesh and AK impeding the free > emotional evolution, in my estimate. > > The demise of the father in May, 1975 can be timed using the Moola > Dasha, Rashi Chakra and the D-60. > > The Karaka of the Paka Lagna is strong and the Lagnesh is also the > AK, so everything has worked out alright for the intellect (Paka > Lagna made strong by the AK, making for Jnana Marga as an attempt to > understand the world, and Shani-Chandra Yoga is in the 10th House, > so that positive potential should also be seen. > > Be that as it may, in the Sade-Sati, and till remedies were done for > the Amavasya Dosha, the Shrapa in the 10th refused to budge. Then, > suddenly work in the highest Court of the land came about along with > Jyotish practice. It is only an alleviation of the Amavasya Dosha, > the relief from Sade-Sati having passed that work, being seen as a > working entity in society, (10th House) have come to pass. > > The mental suffering from Shadripu and delusion was only in Rahu > Vimshottari Mahadasha and though the absence of work justified the > area of the suffering being the 6th House, being the stronger of the > two owned by Shani, the real mental suffering came from the repeated > failure and Karmic, Poorva Janma hurt, humiliation, shock and > depraved behaviour from those who were approached to help with the > career situation. This is the work of the Rahu Moola Dasha, > completely qualified to deliver the curse. Rahu is with Neecha > Lagnesh Surya in the D-60 and aspected by Neecha Shani and Ketu from > the 9th. > > This means the AK Sun will give the results of the Moola Dasha as > far as past Karma goes. Therefore, in the same huge Rahu Moola > Dasha, Jyotish has come, not through the BK Rahu, but through the AK > Sun, putting one on the path that was deviated from in Poorva Janma. > > However, Rahu is unconjoined in Rashi, giving its own results. > Saturn and Ketu are in the 9th and protect, ensuring the suffering > is basically for cleansing. > > Rahu has not been propitiated but recourse to Sri Rama, the vishnu > Avatar seen from the AK, Lagnesh Sun is being taken through the Rama > Taraka Mantra. Another interesting feature is that though Ketu is in > the 12th in Rashi and from Karakamsha, Sri Rama has allowed the act > which invited the curse to be remedied through His Name as he is > 12th Lord from Karakamsha in the Karakamsha Lagna! > > Perhaps it is because the act was not horrible, shown by exalted > Moon in Kendra. > > I hope I have not rambled on too much but this aspect of Jyotish > interests me a lot, apart from everything else of course. > > Regards, > Anurag Sharma > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > , " Jyotisa Shisya " > <achyutagaddi@> wrote: > > > > |om| > > Dear Visti, namaste > > > > While you are on this topic, I request you to explain about *bhava > shaapa *and > > how to judge if it is serious enough to impact the fortunes of the > bhava. > > What are the standard remedies for the bhava shaapa? I remember > Sarbani has > > done some work in this regard but it would be nice to hear a few > words from > > you on this. > > > > best regards > > Hari > > > > > > > > On 8/27/06, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > *||Hare Rama Krsna||* > > > Dear Students, Namaskar > > > Some clarification is needed. Dosha is an affliction due to > circumstances > > > or sorrow which doens't arise due to evil-deeds, but mistakes > and bad > > > lifestyle. If you don't brush your teeth, they will become weak > and fall out > > > - this is dosha or weakness/affliction. A shaapa happens if you > knock > > > someone elses teeth out - this earns you a shaapa or curse. > > > > > > A *Pitri Shaapa *happens when the Sun is involved in a curse. > I.e. > > > afflicted by two or more malefics. This usually causes suffering > to the > > > father or paternal relatives. The problem will specifically come > from the > > > house where the Sun is placed. I.e. in the chart of Sri Rama, > the Sun is > > > afflicted in the tenth house, and Sri Ramas father had to see > the sorrow of > > > his son being exhiled, and not being there at his death-bed. The > issue was > > > the kingdom/throne itself which is seen from the tenth house > placement of > > > the Sun (in simhasana yoga). > > > > > > A *Pitri Dosha* happens when the ancestors are unhappy, and > occurs when > > > the nodes (spirits/the dead) are joined Saturn, showing the > sorrow of the > > > dead afflicting oneself. Should Mars instead join a node, then > its the anger > > > of the dead (pisacha dosha). This causes yogas involved with > these yogas to > > > be stuck and/or not arise. The life is a constant effort to > overcome a debt > > > of sorts. > > > The remedy for the former (shani-node yoga) lies in offering > water to the > > > pitris with the Astakshari-Suryaaditya mantra: Om Ghrini > SuryaAaditya|| > > > > > > Then there is *Pitri badhaka*, where the native earns the anger > or sorrow > > > of their parents in this life itself, and this causes obstacles > to their > > > succes. This happens when the Badhaka is associated with the Sun > (father) or > > > Moon (mother) as these are ALSO associated with Saturn (sorrow) > or Mars > > > (anger) in rasi or navamsa. > > > > > > All these relate to ones ancestors, parents and forefathers, and > should > > > not be confused with the word 'Putra' which means children, > or 'Preta' which > > > means the dead, or deceased. > > > Best wishes, > > > *** > > > Visti Larsen <- ? > subject=Un> > > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 My DOB is : 11-Jan-1971 Time 3:55 pm Rashi chart is as follows : 1st house Vrisha lagna (Gulika) 2nd house Moon in Mithuna 4th Ketu in Simha. 6th Mars in Libra 7th Jupiter and Venus in Vrischika 8th Sun and Mercury in Dhanu 10th Rahu in Kumbha 12th Saturn(Retro) in Mesha Please tell me whether I have sarpa dosha and preta dosha(owing to which planets),and also the remedies to be performed. Thanks vedic astrology , " sayujya78 " <sayujya78 wrote: > > vedic astrology , " Anurag Sharma " > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Before Visti renders an opinion, a thought or two on this. Dosha > and > > Shrapa do affect the Bhava very seriously. I feel I have direct > > experience of the same. My birth data for reference to judge this e- > > mail better: 11th June, 1972; 10:17:16 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, India. > > > > The Matri Shrapa caused by Rahu, Shani and Sun (Amavasya Dosha) is > > in the 10th House. From the regular way of judging are area where > > the suffering would be experienced, the 6th House emerges. While > > this is true, the 10th House has also shown tremendous suffering. > > This is accurately timed from the Rahu Moola Dasha using the > default > > settings in JHora: taking the Lagna, Moon and Sun (as stated by > > Narasimha to have been advised by Kalyan Varma and Varahamihira) as > > starting points. > > > > Though the 6th House of daily work has been the area where the > > suffering has been experienced, the 10th House affliction leading > to > > humiliation of an utterly unjustified sort (Rahu; Amavasya) in the > > attempts to get a job (Shani-Chandra Yoga) has manifested very > > strongly. > > > > Hurt to the self-respect, emotions, happiness have all manifested. > > See the involvement of the Lagnesh and AK impeding the free > > emotional evolution, in my estimate. > > > > The demise of the father in May, 1975 can be timed using the Moola > > Dasha, Rashi Chakra and the D-60. > > > > The Karaka of the Paka Lagna is strong and the Lagnesh is also the > > AK, so everything has worked out alright for the intellect (Paka > > Lagna made strong by the AK, making for Jnana Marga as an attempt > to > > understand the world, and Shani-Chandra Yoga is in the 10th House, > > so that positive potential should also be seen. > > > > Be that as it may, in the Sade-Sati, and till remedies were done > for > > the Amavasya Dosha, the Shrapa in the 10th refused to budge. Then, > > suddenly work in the highest Court of the land came about along > with > > Jyotish practice. It is only an alleviation of the Amavasya Dosha, > > the relief from Sade-Sati having passed that work, being seen as a > > working entity in society, (10th House) have come to pass. > > > > The mental suffering from Shadripu and delusion was only in Rahu > > Vimshottari Mahadasha and though the absence of work justified the > > area of the suffering being the 6th House, being the stronger of > the > > two owned by Shani, the real mental suffering came from the > repeated > > failure and Karmic, Poorva Janma hurt, humiliation, shock and > > depraved behaviour from those who were approached to help with the > > career situation. This is the work of the Rahu Moola Dasha, > > completely qualified to deliver the curse. Rahu is with Neecha > > Lagnesh Surya in the D-60 and aspected by Neecha Shani and Ketu > from > > the 9th. > > > > This means the AK Sun will give the results of the Moola Dasha as > > far as past Karma goes. Therefore, in the same huge Rahu Moola > > Dasha, Jyotish has come, not through the BK Rahu, but through the > AK > > Sun, putting one on the path that was deviated from in Poorva Janma. > > > > However, Rahu is unconjoined in Rashi, giving its own results. > > Saturn and Ketu are in the 9th and protect, ensuring the suffering > > is basically for cleansing. > > > > Rahu has not been propitiated but recourse to Sri Rama, the vishnu > > Avatar seen from the AK, Lagnesh Sun is being taken through the > Rama > > Taraka Mantra. Another interesting feature is that though Ketu is > in > > the 12th in Rashi and from Karakamsha, Sri Rama has allowed the act > > which invited the curse to be remedied through His Name as he is > > 12th Lord from Karakamsha in the Karakamsha Lagna! > > > > Perhaps it is because the act was not horrible, shown by exalted > > Moon in Kendra. > > > > I hope I have not rambled on too much but this aspect of Jyotish > > interests me a lot, apart from everything else of course. > > > > Regards, > > Anurag Sharma > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > , " Jyotisa Shisya " > > <achyutagaddi@> wrote: > > > > > > |om| > > > Dear Visti, namaste > > > > > > While you are on this topic, I request you to explain about > *bhava > > shaapa *and > > > how to judge if it is serious enough to impact the fortunes of > the > > bhava. > > > What are the standard remedies for the bhava shaapa? I remember > > Sarbani has > > > done some work in this regard but it would be nice to hear a few > > words from > > > you on this. > > > > > > best regards > > > Hari > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/27/06, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > *||Hare Rama Krsna||* > > > > Dear Students, Namaskar > > > > Some clarification is needed. Dosha is an affliction due to > > circumstances > > > > or sorrow which doens't arise due to evil-deeds, but mistakes > > and bad > > > > lifestyle. If you don't brush your teeth, they will become weak > > and fall out > > > > - this is dosha or weakness/affliction. A shaapa happens if you > > knock > > > > someone elses teeth out - this earns you a shaapa or curse. > > > > > > > > A *Pitri Shaapa *happens when the Sun is involved in a curse. > > I.e. > > > > afflicted by two or more malefics. This usually causes > suffering > > to the > > > > father or paternal relatives. The problem will specifically > come > > from the > > > > house where the Sun is placed. I.e. in the chart of Sri Rama, > > the Sun is > > > > afflicted in the tenth house, and Sri Ramas father had to see > > the sorrow of > > > > his son being exhiled, and not being there at his death-bed. > The > > issue was > > > > the kingdom/throne itself which is seen from the tenth house > > placement of > > > > the Sun (in simhasana yoga). > > > > > > > > A *Pitri Dosha* happens when the ancestors are unhappy, and > > occurs when > > > > the nodes (spirits/the dead) are joined Saturn, showing the > > sorrow of the > > > > dead afflicting oneself. Should Mars instead join a node, then > > its the anger > > > > of the dead (pisacha dosha). This causes yogas involved with > > these yogas to > > > > be stuck and/or not arise. The life is a constant effort to > > overcome a debt > > > > of sorts. > > > > The remedy for the former (shani-node yoga) lies in offering > > water to the > > > > pitris with the Astakshari-Suryaaditya mantra: Om Ghrini > > SuryaAaditya|| > > > > > > > > Then there is *Pitri badhaka*, where the native earns the anger > > or sorrow > > > > of their parents in this life itself, and this causes obstacles > > to their > > > > succes. This happens when the Badhaka is associated with the > Sun > > (father) or > > > > Moon (mother) as these are ALSO associated with Saturn (sorrow) > > or Mars > > > > (anger) in rasi or navamsa. > > > > > > > > All these relate to ones ancestors, parents and forefathers, > and > > should > > > > not be confused with the word 'Putra' which means children, > > or 'Preta' which > > > > means the dead, or deceased. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen <- ? > > subject=Un> > > > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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