Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Dear Shri Visti Larsen ji, I have attached the messages I have posted in both Jyotish Group and Vedic Astrology forums for your kind attention. For the identification of progeny in a Saptamsa chart I have followed your article in Varga Chakra and Shri PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson 13 which he delivered to his students at Boston. Your help in clarifying the doubts in mind would be much appreciated. Thank you. David Dear Chandrasekhar ji and learned members, A correction to my earlier message! When quoting Visti Larsen ji I had erroneously mentioned 'Navamsa'. Please note that all reference is to the Saptamsa chart. Thanks. David David Andrews <dprapus wrote: Dear Chandrasekhar ji and learned members,I am looking into a Saptamsa chart, the Ascendant is in Virgo, an even sign. So, counting in reverse, the 5th house will be Taurus an even sign. Here, Moon tenants this house. By rasi and planet tenanted it is clear that the first child will be a female. The mother has acknowledged that the first child is a female.After the birth of this child she conceived but had to abort that child on medical advice. This happened in 2004. Have been trying to conceive. Doctors who examined both parents find that both are healthy and there is no question of both having lost their fertility.From Taurus, I count in reverse and reach the 7th house which is Pisces. This is an even sign. However, following the exception to the rule, Pisces will give a male child. Sun and Mars tenant this house. According to Rule 2 both these planets ought to give male child.Now comes the important question. If one encounters the Nodes whilst counting in Mandooka Gati, then the Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Saptamsa. In the instant case, Rahu is in Aries. Does that end the counting. Jupiter is in Moolatrikona in Sagittarius. Visti Larsen ji's article and PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson on Saptamsa state that once the Nodes are encountered then the counting by Mandook Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Navamsa (this is according to Visti Larsen ji), unless the planet which supposes to give the second child, is very strong.(Per PVR Narasimha Rao ji).What do you say? Please enlighten this novice.Thank you.David Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear David, Namaskar Which chart are you referring to? Also the rule states to see the lord of the particular sign, and not the planets tenating it. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of David Andrews26 August 2006 00:42sohamsa Subject: Saptamsa chart - identifying children - Kind attn of Shri Visti Larsen and learned members Dear Shri Visti Larsen ji, I have attached the messages I have posted in both Jyotish Group and Vedic Astrology forums for your kind attention. For the identification of progeny in a Saptamsa chart I have followed your article in Varga Chakra and Shri PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson 13 which he delivered to his students at Boston. Your help in clarifying the doubts in mind would be much appreciated. Thank you. David Dear Chandrasekhar ji and learned members, A correction to my earlier message! When quoting Visti Larsen ji I had erroneously mentioned 'Navamsa'. Please note that all reference is to the Saptamsa chart. Thanks. David David Andrews <dprapus > wrote: Dear Chandrasekhar ji and learned members,I am looking into a Saptamsa chart, the Ascendant is in Virgo, an even sign. So, counting in reverse, the 5th house will be Taurus an even sign. Here, Moon tenants this house. By rasi and planet tenanted it is clear that the first child will be a female. The mother has acknowledged that the first child is a female.After the birth of this child she conceived but had to abort that child on medical advice. This happened in 2004. Have been trying to conceive. Doctors who examined both parents find that both are healthy and there is no question of both having lost their fertility.From Taurus, I count in reverse and reach the 7th house which is Pisces. This is an even sign. However, following the exception to the rule, Pisces will give a male child. Sun and Mars tenant this house. According to Rule 2 both these planets ought to give male child.Now comes the important question. If one encounters the Nodes whilst counting in Mandooka Gati, then the Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Saptamsa. In the instant case, Rahu is in Aries. Does that end the counting. Jupiter is in Moolatrikona in Sagittarius. Visti Larsen ji's article and PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson on Saptamsa state that once the Nodes are encountered then the counting by Mandook Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Navamsa (this is according to Visti Larsen ji), unless the planet which supposes to give the second child, is very strong.(Per PVR Narasimha Rao ji).What do you say? Please enlighten this novice.Thank you.David Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Dear Visti ji, Thank you for taking the time to reply my query. In answer to your question may I present the facts as presented to me by the querent without forwarding the chart as the querent as since requested me not to reply to her query for various reasons. I am pursuing the matter to study the matter and understand the principles. So kindly reply. Here are the facts as presented: I am looking into a Saptamsa chart, the Ascendant is in Virgo, an even sign. So, counting in reverse, the 5th house will be Taurus an even sign. Here, Moon tenants this house. By rasi and planet tenanted it is clear that the first child will be a female. The mother has acknowledged that the first child is a female.After the birth of this child she conceived but had to abort that child on medical advice. This happened in 2004. Have been trying to conceive. Doctors who examined both parents find that both are healthy and there is no question of both having lost their fertility.From Taurus, I count in reverse and reach the 7th house which is Pisces. This is an even sign. However, following the exception to the rule, Pisces will give a male child. Sun and Mars tenant this house. According to Rule 2 both these planets ought to give male child.Now comes the important question. If one encounters the Nodes whilst counting in Mandooka Gati, then the Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Saptamsa. In the instant case, Rahu is in Aries. Does that end the counting. Jupiter is in Moolatrikona in Sagittarius. Visti Larsen ji's article and PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson on Saptamsa state that once the Nodes are encountered then the counting by Mandook Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Navamsa (this is according to Visti Larsen ji), unless the planet which supposes to give the second child, is very strong.(Per PVR Narasimha Rao ji).What do you say? Please enlighten this novice.Thank you. David Visti Larsen <visti wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear David, Namaskar Which chart are you referring to? Also the rule states to see the lord of the particular sign, and not the planets tenating it. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of David Andrews26 August 2006 00:42sohamsa Subject: Saptamsa chart - identifying children - Kind attn of Shri Visti Larsen and learned members Dear Shri Visti Larsen ji, I have attached the messages I have posted in both Jyotish Group and Vedic Astrology forums for your kind attention. For the identification of progeny in a Saptamsa chart I have followed your article in Varga Chakra and Shri PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson 13 which he delivered to his students at Boston. Your help in clarifying the doubts in mind would be much appreciated. Thank you. David Dear Chandrasekhar ji and learned members, A correction to my earlier message! When quoting Visti Larsen ji I had erroneously mentioned 'Navamsa'. Please note that all reference is to the Saptamsa chart. Thanks. David David Andrews <dprapus > wrote: Dear Chandrasekhar ji and learned members,I am looking into a Saptamsa chart, the Ascendant is in Virgo, an even sign. So, counting in reverse, the 5th house will be Taurus an even sign. Here, Moon tenants this house. By rasi and planet tenanted it is clear that the first child will be a female. The mother has acknowledged that the first child is a female.After the birth of this child she conceived but had to abort that child on medical advice. This happened in 2004. Have been trying to conceive. Doctors who examined both parents find that both are healthy and there is no question of both having lost their fertility.From Taurus, I count in reverse and reach the 7th house which is Pisces. This is an even sign. However, following the exception to the rule, Pisces will give a male child. Sun and Mars tenant this house. According to Rule 2 both these planets ought to give male child.Now comes the important question. If one encounters the Nodes whilst counting in Mandooka Gati, then the Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Saptamsa. In the instant case, Rahu is in Aries. Does that end the counting. Jupiter is in Moolatrikona in Sagittarius. Visti Larsen ji's article and PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson on Saptamsa state that once the Nodes are encountered then the counting by Mandook Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Navamsa (this is according to Visti Larsen ji), unless the planet which supposes to give the second child, is very strong.(Per PVR Narasimha Rao ji).What do you say? Please enlighten this novice.Thank you.David Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Sri David, Namaskar. Can you kindly provide the chart data (in written form only, please do not attach charts as some of us cannot receive attachments). Strength of the lord or Guru (karaka for children) must be strong (and preferably related) to overturn the nodal influences. Guru's strength in Rasi chart is also a good indication (see Cova). Worship of Sri Varaha Avatara during entire pregnancy period is also helpful. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================ sohamsa , David Andrews <dprapus wrote:>> Dear Visti ji,> > Thank you for taking the time to reply my query. In answer to your question may I present the facts as presented to me by the querent without forwarding the chart as the querent as since requested me not to reply to her query for various reasons. I am pursuing the matter to study the matter and understand the principles. So kindly reply.> Here are the facts as presented:> I am looking into a Saptamsa chart, the Ascendant is in Virgo, an even sign. So, counting in reverse, the 5th house will be Taurus an even sign. Here, Moon tenants this house. By rasi and planet tenanted it is clear that the first child will be a female. The mother has acknowledged that the first child is a female.> After the birth of this child she conceived but had to abort that child on medical advice. This happened in 2004. Have been trying to conceive. Doctors who examined both parents find that both are healthy and there is no question of both having lost their fertility.> From Taurus, I count in reverse and reach the 7th house which is Pisces. This is an even sign. However, following the exception to the rule, Pisces will give a male child. Sun and Mars tenant this house. According to Rule 2 both these planets ought to give male child.> Now comes the important question. If one encounters the Nodes whilst counting in Mandooka Gati, then the Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Saptamsa. > In the instant case, Rahu is in Aries. Does that end the counting. Jupiter is in Moolatrikona in Sagittarius. > Visti Larsen ji's article and PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson on Saptamsa state that once the Nodes are encountered then the counting by Mandook Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Navamsa (this is according to Visti Larsen ji), unless the planet which supposes to give the second child, is very strong.(Per PVR Narasimha Rao ji).> > What do you say? Please enlighten this novice.> Thank you.> > David> > > > > > > Visti Larsen visti wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear David, Namaskar> Which chart are you referring to? Also the rule states to see the lord of the particular sign, and not the planets tenating it.> Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of David Andrews> 26 August 2006 00:42> sohamsa > Saptamsa chart - identifying children - Kind attn of Shri Visti Larsen and learned members> > > > Dear Shri Visti Larsen ji,> I have attached the messages I have posted in both Jyotish Group and Vedic Astrology forums for your kind attention.> For the identification of progeny in a Saptamsa chart I have followed your article in Varga Chakra and Shri PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson 13 which he delivered to his students at Boston.> Your help in clarifying the doubts in mind would be much appreciated.> Thank you.> > David> > > > Dear Chandrasekhar ji and learned members,> > A correction to my earlier message!> When quoting Visti Larsen ji I had erroneously mentioned 'Navamsa'. Please note that all reference is to the Saptamsa chart.> Thanks.> > David> > > David Andrews dprapus wrote:> Dear Chandrasekhar ji and learned members,> I am looking into a Saptamsa chart, the Ascendant is in Virgo, an even sign. So, counting in reverse, the 5th house will be Taurus an even sign. Here, Moon tenants this house. By rasi and planet tenanted it is clear that the first child will be a female. The mother has acknowledged that the first child is a female.> After the birth of this child she conceived but had to abort that child on medical advice. This happened in 2004. Have been trying to conceive. Doctors who examined both parents find that both are healthy and there is no question of both having lost their fertility.> From Taurus, I count in reverse and reach the 7th house which is Pisces. This is an even sign. However, following the exception to the rule, Pisces will give a male child. Sun and Mars tenant this house. According to Rule 2 both these planets ought to give male child.> Now comes the important question. If one encounters the Nodes whilst counting in Mandooka Gati, then the Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Saptamsa. > In the instant case, Rahu is in Aries. Does that end the counting. Jupiter is in Moolatrikona in Sagittarius. > Visti Larsen ji's article and PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson on Saptamsa state that once the Nodes are encountered then the counting by Mandook Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Navamsa (this is according to Visti Larsen ji), unless the planet which supposes to give the second child, is very strong.(Per PVR Narasimha Rao ji).> > What do you say? Please enlighten this novice.> Thank you.> > David> > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear David, Namaskar Ok, if Virgo is the lagna and there is no parivartana between lagnesh and lagna, then ninth house will represent first child. The sex of the first child must be seen from lord of the ninths placement, i.e. Venus' placement in the chart. Moving in reverse to the next child indicated by Pisces, we encounter the nodes in Aries. So this should normally limit the pregnancies to only one. If the nodes appear, then to jump over the delaying axis, either Jupiter must be strongly indicating the prior child (Taurus) or the next child (Pisces). If so then the pregnancies can continue. Then next child we see Pisces and jupiter, who is most likely associated with the tenth lord or house somehow to cause abortian/miscarriage. Fiery planets joined Pisces do show bleeding/cutting associated with the pregnancy/childlabor. Next child is seen from Capricorn whose lord Saturn will indicate the sex of the child. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of David Andrews14 September 2006 06:05sohamsa Subject: RE: Saptamsa chart - identifying children - Kind attn of Shri Visti Larsen and learned members Dear Visti ji, Thank you for taking the time to reply my query. In answer to your question may I present the facts as presented to me by the querent without forwarding the chart as the querent as since requested me not to reply to her query for various reasons. I am pursuing the matter to study the matter and understand the principles. So kindly reply. Here are the facts as presented: I am looking into a Saptamsa chart, the Ascendant is in Virgo, an even sign. So, counting in reverse, the 5th house will be Taurus an even sign. Here, Moon tenants this house. By rasi and planet tenanted it is clear that the first child will be a female. The mother has acknowledged that the first child is a female.After the birth of this child she conceived but had to abort that child on medical advice. This happened in 2004. Have been trying to conceive. Doctors who examined both parents find that both are healthy and there is no question of both having lost their fertility.From Taurus, I count in reverse and reach the 7th house which is Pisces. This is an even sign. However, following the exception to the rule, Pisces will give a male child. Sun and Mars tenant this house. According to Rule 2 both these planets ought to give male child.Now comes the important question. If one encounters the Nodes whilst counting in Mandooka Gati, then the Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Saptamsa. In the instant case, Rahu is in Aries. Does that end the counting. Jupiter is in Moolatrikona in Sagittarius. Visti Larsen ji's article and PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson on Saptamsa state that once the Nodes are encountered then the counting by Mandook Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Navamsa (this is according to Visti Larsen ji), unless the planet which supposes to give the second child, is very strong.(Per PVR Narasimha Rao ji).What do you say? Please enlighten this novice.Thank you. David Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear David, Namaskar Which chart are you referring to? Also the rule states to see the lord of the particular sign, and not the planets tenating it. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of David Andrews26 August 2006 00:42sohamsa Subject: Saptamsa chart - identifying children - Kind attn of Shri Visti Larsen and learned members Dear Shri Visti Larsen ji, I have attached the messages I have posted in both Jyotish Group and Vedic Astrology forums for your kind attention. For the identification of progeny in a Saptamsa chart I have followed your article in Varga Chakra and Shri PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson 13 which he delivered to his students at Boston. Your help in clarifying the doubts in mind would be much appreciated. Thank you. David Dear Chandrasekhar ji and learned members, A correction to my earlier message! When quoting Visti Larsen ji I had erroneously mentioned 'Navamsa'. Please note that all reference is to the Saptamsa chart. Thanks. David David Andrews <dprapus > wrote: Dear Chandrasekhar ji and learned members,I am looking into a Saptamsa chart, the Ascendant is in Virgo, an even sign. So, counting in reverse, the 5th house will be Taurus an even sign. Here, Moon tenants this house. By rasi and planet tenanted it is clear that the first child will be a female. The mother has acknowledged that the first child is a female.After the birth of this child she conceived but had to abort that child on medical advice. This happened in 2004. Have been trying to conceive. Doctors who examined both parents find that both are healthy and there is no question of both having lost their fertility.From Taurus, I count in reverse and reach the 7th house which is Pisces. This is an even sign. However, following the exception to the rule, Pisces will give a male child. Sun and Mars tenant this house. According to Rule 2 both these planets ought to give male child.Now comes the important question. If one encounters the Nodes whilst counting in Mandooka Gati, then the Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Saptamsa. In the instant case, Rahu is in Aries. Does that end the counting. Jupiter is in Moolatrikona in Sagittarius. Visti Larsen ji's article and PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson on Saptamsa state that once the Nodes are encountered then the counting by Mandook Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Navamsa (this is according to Visti Larsen ji), unless the planet which supposes to give the second child, is very strong.(Per PVR Narasimha Rao ji).What do you say? Please enlighten this novice.Thank you.David Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Om Brihaspataye Namah Dear Visti, I have been following your recent posts on Saptamsha, Ghatik etc and have been applying your principles to rectify and understand both unusual event charts and saptamsha. I am deeply grateful for all that has been offered. Please may I clear with you some challenges I have come across with charakaraka replacement. First issue is miscarried. Bleeding started whilst piloting a helicopter just after takeoff from an offshore oil platform , over water on route back to the aerodrome. But first a threatening situation arose , as the pilots door , on the left side of the helicopter popped open. No loss of control of the aircraft occurred and with some effort the pilot managed to hold the door as well as fly the aircraft until one of the two passengers, an engineer got it mostly closed again. The aircraft landed safely, after a nervous flight but the pilot was bleeding profusely with the as yet unknown pregnancy. The foetus was expelled 3-5 hours after the beginning of the flight, at home. The flight was about 1 hour 15 long, and during this period there are changing Atmakaraka charakaraka replacements Mo Sa. or SA MO plus lagna change. Take off for the flight( start of miscarriage) event chart is October 13th 1979 ,off Whangarei Heads, New Zealand. Between 1300 and 1430 hours ghatik tithi for the native , Ashtami was operating. Saggitarius is ghatik rasi for moon. Natives rectified chart gives D7 narayana dasha at the time was Leo Pisces Sagg. Details of the D7 are :Aries lagna ,Venus in Taurus, Saturn and Mercury in Gemini, Rahu and Mars in Cancer, moon in Leo, ( 1st issue), Jupiter and Ketu in Capricorn, Sun in Pisces. FIRST QUESTION In rectifying the event chart, Ak replacement would refer to the whole helicopter and all occupants rather than just the baby? . If this is so, and bearing in mind both Lagnas are Saturn ruled, then is Mo replacing Saturn, the later time would be correct? How would you judge this? 2. Either Mars ( for Aries) the bleeding planet that aspects Lagna by 7th or 8t th in each of the possible event lagnas or the heavily afflicted Jupiter ( for Pisces)rules the third House of skills. Yet the skill of the pilot kept the life threatening situation under control and the helicopter did not crash. Can it be true that the planets that indicate the death of this child also indicate the pilots skill? 3. With this natives D7 , the pregnancies run 1s t= miscarriage 2nd = male , born 9 months after miscarriage ( possible twin?)Lagna is Gemini 3rd= male difficult birth, Lagna Gemini ,chord around neck , and chord cut before delivery 4th= abortion 5th= female Aquarius lagna How can the first two living issues be male? Kind regards Rosemary sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Friday, 15 September 2006 11:04 p.m. sohamsa RE: Saptamsa chart - identifying children - Kind attn of Shri Visti Larsen and learned members ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear David, Namaskar Ok, if Virgo is the lagna and there is no parivartana between lagnesh and lagna, then ninth house will represent first child. The sex of the first child must be seen from lord of the ninths placement, i.e. Venus' placement in the chart. Moving in reverse to the next child indicated by Pisces, we encounter the nodes in Aries. So this should normally limit the pregnancies to only one. If the nodes appear, then to jump over the delaying axis, either Jupiter must be strongly indicating the prior child (Taurus) or the next child (Pisces). If so then the pregnancies can continue. Then next child we see Pisces and jupiter, who is most likely associated with the tenth lord or house somehow to cause abortian/miscarriage. Fiery planets joined Pisces do show bleeding/cutting associated with the pregnancy/childlabor. Next child is seen from Capricorn whose lord Saturn will indicate the sex of the child. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of David Andrews 14 September 2006 06:05 sohamsa RE: Saptamsa chart - identifying children - Kind attn of Shri Visti Larsen and learned members Dear Visti ji, Thank you for taking the time to reply my query. In answer to your question may I present the facts as presented to me by the querent without forwarding the chart as the querent as since requested me not to reply to her query for various reasons. I am pursuing the matter to study the matter and understand the principles. So kindly reply. Here are the facts as presented: I am looking into a Saptamsa chart, the Ascendant is in Virgo, an even sign. So, counting in reverse, the 5th house will be Taurus an even sign. Here, Moon tenants this house. By rasi and planet tenanted it is clear that the first child will be a female. The mother has acknowledged that the first child is a female. After the birth of this child she conceived but had to abort that child on medical advice. This happened in 2004. Have been trying to conceive. Doctors who examined both parents find that both are healthy and there is no question of both having lost their fertility. From Taurus, I count in reverse and reach the 7th house which is Pisces. This is an even sign. However, following the exception to the rule, Pisces will give a male child. Sun and Mars tenant this house. According to Rule 2 both these planets ought to give male child. Now comes the important question. If one encounters the Nodes whilst counting in Mandooka Gati, then the Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Saptamsa. In the instant case, Rahu is in Aries. Does that end the counting. Jupiter is in Moolatrikona in Sagittarius. Visti Larsen ji's article and PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson on Saptamsa state that once the Nodes are encountered then the counting by Mandook Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Navamsa (this is according to Visti Larsen ji), unless the planet which supposes to give the second child, is very strong.(Per PVR Narasimha Rao ji). What do you say? Please enlighten this novice. Thank you. David Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear David, Namaskar Which chart are you referring to? Also the rule states to see the lord of the particular sign, and not the planets tenating it. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of David Andrews 26 August 2006 00:42 sohamsa Saptamsa chart - identifying children - Kind attn of Shri Visti Larsen and learned members Dear Shri Visti Larsen ji, I have attached the messages I have posted in both Jyotish Group and Vedic Astrology forums for your kind attention. For the identification of progeny in a Saptamsa chart I have followed your article in Varga Chakra and Shri PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson 13 which he delivered to his students at Boston. Your help in clarifying the doubts in mind would be much appreciated. Thank you. David Dear Chandrasekhar ji and learned members, A correction to my earlier message! When quoting Visti Larsen ji I had erroneously mentioned 'Navamsa'. Please note that all reference is to the Saptamsa chart. Thanks. David David Andrews <dprapus > wrote: Dear Chandrasekhar ji and learned members, I am looking into a Saptamsa chart, the Ascendant is in Virgo, an even sign. So, counting in reverse, the 5th house will be Taurus an even sign. Here, Moon tenants this house. By rasi and planet tenanted it is clear that the first child will be a female. The mother has acknowledged that the first child is a female. After the birth of this child she conceived but had to abort that child on medical advice. This happened in 2004. Have been trying to conceive. Doctors who examined both parents find that both are healthy and there is no question of both having lost their fertility. From Taurus, I count in reverse and reach the 7th house which is Pisces. This is an even sign. However, following the exception to the rule, Pisces will give a male child. Sun and Mars tenant this house. According to Rule 2 both these planets ought to give male child. Now comes the important question. If one encounters the Nodes whilst counting in Mandooka Gati, then the Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Saptamsa. In the instant case, Rahu is in Aries. Does that end the counting. Jupiter is in Moolatrikona in Sagittarius. Visti Larsen ji's article and PVR Narasimha Rao ji's lesson on Saptamsa state that once the Nodes are encountered then the counting by Mandook Gati ends unless Jupiter is strong in Navamsa (this is according to Visti Larsen ji), unless the planet which supposes to give the second child, is very strong.(Per PVR Narasimha Rao ji). What do you say? Please enlighten this novice. Thank you. David Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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