Non-jyotish, but an inspiring piece - it applies to Jyotish as well

[Guest guest]

An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of his new students to stand and ..... Prof: So you believe in God?Student: Absolutely, sir. Prof: Is God good? Student: Sure.Prof: Is God all-powerful ?Student: Yes. Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm? Student is silent. Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fellow. Is God good? Student: Yes. Prof: Is Satan good?Student: No. Prof: Where does Satan come from? Student: From...God...Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world? Student: Yes. Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?Student: Yes. Prof: So who created evil? Student does not answer. Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they? Student: Yes, sir. Prof: So, who created them?Student has no answer. Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God? Student:No, sir. Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?Student: No, sir. Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter? Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't. Prof: Yet you still believe in Him? Student: Yes.Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son? Student: Nothing. I only have my faith. Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has. Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat? Prof: Yes. Student: And is there such a thing as cold? Prof: Yes. Student: No sir. There isn't.(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.) Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it. (There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.) Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness? Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?Student:You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you? Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man? Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed. Prof:Flawed? Can you explain how?Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey? Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do. Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir? (The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.) Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.) Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain? (The class breaks out into laughter.)Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol,science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive. . . . . . . THAT STUDENT WAS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, now the President of India

[Guest guest]

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Shaileshji, It's a very good argument, But can you please confirm the following statement below,

THAT STUDENT WAS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, now the President of IndiaAny reference or biography would be helpful to qoute.Thank youWarm RegardsSanjay P

_On 8/15/06, Shailesh C Chadha <scchadha

> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of his new students to stand and ..... Prof: So you believe in God?Student: Absolutely, sir. Prof: Is God good? Student: Sure.Prof: Is God all-powerful ?Student: Yes. Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm? Student is silent. Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fellow. Is God good? Student: Yes. Prof: Is Satan good?Student: No. Prof: Where does Satan come from? Student: From...God...Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world? Student: Yes. Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?Student: Yes. Prof: So who created evil? Student does not answer. Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they? Student: Yes, sir. Prof: So, who created them?Student has no answer. Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God? Student:No, sir. Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?Student: No, sir. Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter? Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't. Prof: Yet you still believe in Him? Student: Yes.Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son? Student: Nothing. I only have my faith. Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has. Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat? Prof: Yes. Student: And is there such a thing as cold? Prof: Yes. Student: No sir. There isn't.(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.) Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it. (There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.) Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness? Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?Student:You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you? Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man? Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed. Prof:Flawed? Can you explain how?Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey? Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do. Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir? (The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.) Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.) Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain? (The class breaks out into laughter.)Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol,science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive. . . . . . . THAT STUDENT WAS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, now the President of India

 

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|| Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||

 

 

 

Namasthe Sanjay ji,

 

It is a cross post - so I have no way of verifying the credits.

 

But, as you have yourself said, it a very strong and convincing argument - in favour of existence of God and belief is Jyotish as well..

 

Best wishes

 

 

 

 

Shailesh

 

-

Sanjay Prabhakaran

sohamsa

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:56 PM

Re: Non-jyotish, but an inspiring piece - it applies to Jyotish as well

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Shaileshji, It's a very good argument, But can you please confirm the following statement below,

THAT STUDENT WAS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, now the President of India

Any reference or biography would be helpful to qoute.Thank youWarm RegardsSanjay P_

On 8/15/06, Shailesh C Chadha <scchadha > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of his new students to stand and ..... Prof: So you believe in God?Student: Absolutely, sir. Prof: Is God good? Student: Sure.Prof: Is God all-powerful ?Student: Yes. Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm? Student is silent. Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fellow. Is God good? Student: Yes. Prof: Is Satan good?Student: No. Prof: Where does Satan come from? Student: From...God...Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world? Student: Yes. Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?Student: Yes. Prof: So who created evil? Student does not answer. Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they? Student: Yes, sir. Prof: So, who created them?Student has no answer. Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God? Student:No, sir. Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?Student: No, sir. Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter? Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't. Prof: Yet you still believe in Him? Student: Yes.Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son? Student: Nothing. I only have my faith. Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has. Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat? Prof: Yes. Student: And is there such a thing as cold? Prof: Yes. Student: No sir. There isn't.(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.) Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it. (There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.) Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness? Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?Student:You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you? Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man? Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed. Prof:Flawed? Can you explain how?Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey? Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do. Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir? (The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.) Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.) Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain? (The class breaks out into laughter.)Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol,science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive. . . . . . . THAT STUDENT WAS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, now the President of India

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[Guest guest]

dear all, while this is so very impressive, it appears that the student was not abdul kalaam. threre are several such incidents and letters purported to be written by him making rounds nowadays. For eg., there is a letter pubished by astrological magazine recently purportdly written by the president but if you look at some of the words used obviously it is not kalam's class, president or not.

But in any case the contents are impressive and thought provoking. regards, Kishore patnaik

 

 

We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it. (There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.) Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness? Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?Student:You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you? Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man? Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed. Prof:Flawed? Can you explain how?Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey? Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do. Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir? (The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.) Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.) Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain? (The class breaks out into laughter.)Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol,science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive. . . . . . . THAT STUDENT WAS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, now the President of India

_

[Guest guest]

Daer Friends,

 

This very story, I heard on the Aastha TV last nite,with some

modifications.

 

The synopsis is to prove,God is almighty, an ENERGY which is

absolute and not subject to duality principle.The whole world is a

Maya.Perception is not always real,is the essence.

 

Makes for excellent reading on JANMASHTAMI DAy Celebrations.

 

 

Best Wishes.

 

Satish

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Shailesh C Chadha " <scchadha

wrote:

>

>

> || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||

>

> Namasthe Sanjay ji,

>

> It is a cross post - so I have no way of verifying the credits.

>

> But, as you have yourself said, it a very strong and convincing

argument - in favour of existence of God and belief is Jyotish as

well..

>

> Best wishes

>

> Shailesh

> -

> Sanjay Prabhakaran

> sohamsa

> Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:56 PM

> Re: Non-jyotish, but an inspiring piece - it

applies to Jyotish as well

>

>

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

>

> Dear Shaileshji,

> It's a very good argument,

> But can you please confirm the following statement below,

>

>

>

> THAT STUDENT WAS . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

> Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, now the President of India

>

>

> Any reference or biography would be helpful to qoute.

>

> Thank you

> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P

>

>

>

> _

>

>

>

>

> On 8/15/06, Shailesh C Chadha <scchadha > wrote:

>

> An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the

problem science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of his new

students to stand and .....

>

> Prof: So you believe in God?

> Student: Absolutely, sir.

>

> Prof: Is God good?

> Student: Sure.

>

> Prof: Is God all-powerful ?

> Student: Yes.

>

> Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God

to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill.

But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?

> Student is silent.

>

> Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young

fellow. Is God good?

> Student: Yes.

>

> Prof: Is Satan good?

> Student: No.

>

> Prof: Where does Satan come from?

> Student: From...God...

>

> Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

> Student: Yes.

>

> Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make

everything. Correct?

> Student: Yes.

>

> Prof: So who created evil?

> Student does not answer.

>

> Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All

these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?

> Student: Yes, sir.

>

> Prof: So, who created them?

> Student has no answer.

>

> Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and

observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?

> Student:No, sir.

>

> Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?

> Student: No, sir.

>

> Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your

God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that

matter?

> Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

>

> Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?

> Student: Yes.

>

> Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol,

science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?

> Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.

>

> Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

>

> Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

> Prof: Yes.

>

> Student: And is there such a thing as cold?

> Prof: Yes.

>

> Student: No sir. There isn't.

> (The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of

events.)

>

> Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat,

superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we

don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero

which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is

no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the

absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not

the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

> (There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

>

> Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing

as darkness?

> Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?

>

> Student:You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of

something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light,

flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have

nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness

isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker,

wouldn't you?

> Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?

>

> Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is

flawed.

> Prof:Flawed? Can you explain how?

>

> Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You

argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad

God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite,

something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought.

It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less

fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life

is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a

substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the

absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students

that they evolved from a monkey?

> Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary

process, yes, of course, I do.

>

>

> Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes,

sir?

> (The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to

realize where the argument is going.)

>

> Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of

evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-

going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not

a scientist but a preacher?

> (The class is in uproar.)

>

> Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the

Professor's brain?

> (The class breaks out into laughter.)

>

> Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the

Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to

have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical,

stable, demonstrable protocol,science says that you have no brain,

sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures,

sir?

> (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his

face unfathomable.)

> Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.

>

> Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is

FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive. . . . . . .

>

>

> THAT STUDENT WAS . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

>

>

>

> Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, now the President of India

>

>

> _

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Learned Members,

 

The student doesn't seem to be our APJ or Albert Einstien. Please

check the below link. Bottomline...its thought provoking!

 

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/e/einstein-god.htm

 

Regards,

Harish

 

 

 

sohamsa , " R Satish " <rsatish1942 wrote:

>

>

> Daer Friends,

>

> This very story, I heard on the Aastha TV last nite,with some

> modifications.

>

> The synopsis is to prove,God is almighty, an ENERGY which is

> absolute and not subject to duality principle.The whole world is a

> Maya.Perception is not always real,is the essence.

>

> Makes for excellent reading on JANMASHTAMI DAy Celebrations.

>

>

> Best Wishes.

>

> Satish

sohamsa , " Shailesh C Chadha " <scchadha@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||

> >

> > Namasthe Sanjay ji,

> >

> > It is a cross post - so I have no way of verifying the credits.

> >

> > But, as you have yourself said, it a very strong and convincing

> argument - in favour of existence of God and belief is Jyotish as

> well..

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Shailesh

> > -

> > Sanjay Prabhakaran

> > sohamsa

> > Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:56 PM

> > Re: Non-jyotish, but an inspiring piece -

it

> applies to Jyotish as well

> >

> >

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> >

> > Dear Shaileshji,

> > It's a very good argument,

> > But can you please confirm the following statement below,

> >

> >

> >

> > THAT STUDENT WAS . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

> > Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, now the President of India

> >

> >

> > Any reference or biography would be helpful to qoute.

> >

> > Thank you

> > Warm Regards

> > Sanjay P

> >

> >

> >

> > _

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 8/15/06, Shailesh C Chadha <scchadha@ > wrote:

> >

> > An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on

the

> problem science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of his new

> students to stand and .....

> >

> > Prof: So you believe in God?

> > Student: Absolutely, sir.

> >

> > Prof: Is God good?

> > Student: Sure.

> >

> > Prof: Is God all-powerful ?

> > Student: Yes.

> >

> > Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God

> to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill.

> But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?

> > Student is silent.

> >

> > Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young

> fellow. Is God good?

> > Student: Yes.

> >

> > Prof: Is Satan good?

> > Student: No.

> >

> > Prof: Where does Satan come from?

> > Student: From...God...

> >

> > Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this

world?

> > Student: Yes.

> >

> > Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make

> everything. Correct?

> > Student: Yes.

> >

> > Prof: So who created evil?

> > Student does not answer.

> >

> > Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All

> these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?

> > Student: Yes, sir.

> >

> > Prof: So, who created them?

> > Student has no answer.

> >

> > Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and

> observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen

God?

> > Student:No, sir.

> >

> > Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?

> > Student: No, sir.

> >

> > Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt

your

> God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that

> matter?

> > Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

> >

> > Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?

> > Student: Yes.

> >

> > Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable

protocol,

> science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?

> > Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.

> >

> > Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

> >

> > Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

> > Prof: Yes.

> >

> > Student: And is there such a thing as cold?

> > Prof: Yes.

> >

> > Student: No sir. There isn't.

> > (The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of

> events.)

> >

> > Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat,

> superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we

> don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero

> which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is

> no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the

> absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is

not

> the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

> > (There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

> >

> > Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a

thing

> as darkness?

> > Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?

> >

> > Student:You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of

> something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light,

> flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have

> nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness

> isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker,

> wouldn't you?

> > Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?

> >

> > Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is

> flawed.

> > Prof:Flawed? Can you explain how?

> >

> > Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You

> argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad

> God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite,

> something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a

thought.

> It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less

> fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life

> is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a

> substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the

> absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students

> that they evolved from a monkey?

> > Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary

> process, yes, of course, I do.

> >

> >

> > Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own

eyes,

> sir?

> > (The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to

> realize where the argument is going.)

> >

> > Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of

> evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-

> going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you

not

> a scientist but a preacher?

> > (The class is in uproar.)

> >

> > Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the

> Professor's brain?

> > (The class breaks out into laughter.)

> >

> > Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the

> Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to

> have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical,

> stable, demonstrable protocol,science says that you have no brain,

> sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your

lectures,

> sir?

> > (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student,

his

> face unfathomable.)

> > Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.

> >

> > Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is

> FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive. . . . . . .

> >

> >

> > THAT STUDENT WAS . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

> >

> >

> >

> > Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, now the President of India

> >

> >

> > _

> >

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