Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 OM HRISHNA GURU Dear Visti, In fact it make good sence to use MK stana from Karaka Graha. I believe the rule can be applied universelly such as, when AL is im MK from Moon etc. But why did you looked UL placement from Venus ? Venus is karaka for A7 . Any way, Do you have any referance for this ? Best Wishes Karu North Indian Couple: In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is in marana karaka sthana from Venus, hence this marriage would not happen, and hence the next one is indicated by Pisces. Pisces has an exalted Venus who is also Lagnesh, and this is in trines to the lagna of the groom (scorpio). Hence this looks like an emotional tie which later was accepted by the parents giving a Daiva Vivaha (Mars lording seventh house in navamsa). I have deliberately skipped the chart of the groom, as he seems to have had a checkered past in the matter of relationships, especially the first major relationship was a source of great pain to him, due to the Atmakaraka Saturn joining this Upapada. South Indian Couple: In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is joined eighth lord Mercury and the Naisargika Pitri-karaka; Saturn. Hence, this marriage looks arranged on first glance. I do agree with Samir that there is need for remedial measures for this marriage. The grooms chart again poses to be very interesting. The Upapada is in the fourth house, but its lord Mars (mars is stronger) is joined a pravrajya yoga in the ninth house, indicating a desire to reject marriage and move on a more spiritual path. This would have delayed his marriage. However, this Mars is joined Saturn (naisargika pitrikaraka) and aspected by a retrograde-eighth lord Jupiter by graha dristi, which can bring an arranged marriage in a dasa/antara of Jupiter. It would be easy to accept this as a love-marriage, due to their upapadas matching each others lagnas, but i felt the strong influence of Saturn and Eighth lord on the upapadas would change that. Saturn and Mercury influence both Upapadas confirming their similarity. I believe this was a purely arranged marriage. East Indian Couple: In this chart the bride seems to have had one minor relationship before marriage due to weak planets joined the Upapada, and the lords both being in dusthanas (ketu as an exception could promote an arranged marriage). The next upapada is in Gemini which is the same upapada as the grooms indicating an arranged marriage. The lord Mercury indicates some advertizing is involved. Thankyou for giving us an oportunity to test the principles, please do post the final answer on these chart. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** On Behalf Of suchitra_kamath05 August 2006 23:02 Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Luv Vs Arrange Marriage- 3 couples Quiz Namaskar Visti/Sourav/Sameer and othersI am presenting data of 3 couples. I know what kind of marriages they had.Let us try to analyze from chart why they had what they had.of the three couples one had pure arranged marriage( groom saw her 3 days before- decided on marriage )one of the couple had purely emotional tie- they told their elders and got it arranged.the third couple sought each other themselves through means of advetisement etc( no emotional tie before marriage) and then told their elders and got marriedI hope this will be interesting and also help students.ThanksSuchitraNorth Indian coupleBride : May 4, 1974 Agra India Time:7.15 AM(morning)Groom: September 8, 1974 Lucknow India, 11.20 AM(morning)South Indian CoupleBride: August 14,1978, Bangalore India 12.55 Pm(afternoon)Groom: April 6, 1970 Manipal India 3.45 PM(afternoon)East Indian CoupleBride : 18 October 1974, Bombay India 7.59 Am(morning)Groom : 9 December 1969 Ranchi India 12.29 PM(afternoon) , ashish saxena <ashish0021 wrote:>> Dear Samir namaskar,> Thanks for your input. Well Visti ji said that I would meet my partner in about an year from now, I dont think it means marriage , also I m not into a relationship rite now, could u throw some light on timing of marriage> > thanks and regards> ashish> > Samir Shah <solaris.smoke wrote:> || hare räma kåñna ||> > Dear Ashish, Namaskar> > For love marriage, look for a link between the UL/A7/Venus and 5th/7th houses. For arranged marriages, the 8th house needs to have an influence on the UL/7th house. > > In your case, the 5th lord Venus is in the UL, and the 5th house also has the A7. The A7 is also aspecting the UL. There is also the aspect on the UL of the 8th lord, but I think that this is a lesser influence - so a love marriage is, I think, likely. Now, I believe Vistiji has predicted marriage for you within the next year -so may I ask whether you are in a relationship at present? This is just for learning.> > Best wishes,> > Samir> > > > > At 13:29 03/08/2006, you wrote:> Dear Sir ,> How do we figure out whether a person will haev love or arrange marriage. If u could answer this question in my horoscpoe.> > Ashish > 20th August 1983> 3:12 AM> Chandigarh , India> > Thanks and Ragards> Ashish> > > Ashish Saxena> SDET> Microsoft India R & D Centre> > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > Ashish Saxena> SDET> Microsoft India R & D Centre> > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Karu, Namaskar Venus is karaka for all relationships... why just A7? Yes it can be used universally. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Karu 07 August 2006 03:08 sohamsa Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Luv Vs Arrange Marriage- 3 couples Quiz OM HRISHNA GURU Dear Visti, In fact it make good sence to use MK stana from Karaka Graha. I believe the rule can be applied universelly such as, when AL is im MK from Moon etc. But why did you looked UL placement from Venus ? Venus is karaka for A7 . Any way, Do you have any referance for this ? Best Wishes Karu North Indian Couple: In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is in marana karaka sthana from Venus, hence this marriage would not happen, and hence the next one is indicated by Pisces. Pisces has an exalted Venus who is also Lagnesh, and this is in trines to the lagna of the groom (scorpio). Hence this looks like an emotional tie which later was accepted by the parents giving a Daiva Vivaha (Mars lording seventh house in navamsa). I have deliberately skipped the chart of the groom, as he seems to have had a checkered past in the matter of relationships, especially the first major relationship was a source of great pain to him, due to the Atmakaraka Saturn joining this Upapada. South Indian Couple: In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is joined eighth lord Mercury and the Naisargika Pitri-karaka; Saturn. Hence, this marriage looks arranged on first glance. I do agree with Samir that there is need for remedial measures for this marriage. The grooms chart again poses to be very interesting. The Upapada is in the fourth house, but its lord Mars (mars is stronger) is joined a pravrajya yoga in the ninth house, indicating a desire to reject marriage and move on a more spiritual path. This would have delayed his marriage. However, this Mars is joined Saturn (naisargika pitrikaraka) and aspected by a retrograde-eighth lord Jupiter by graha dristi, which can bring an arranged marriage in a dasa/antara of Jupiter. It would be easy to accept this as a love-marriage, due to their upapadas matching each others lagnas, but i felt the strong influence of Saturn and Eighth lord on the upapadas would change that. Saturn and Mercury influence both Upapadas confirming their similarity. I believe this was a purely arranged marriage. East Indian Couple: In this chart the bride seems to have had one minor relationship before marriage due to weak planets joined the Upapada, and the lords both being in dusthanas (ketu as an exception could promote an arranged marriage). The next upapada is in Gemini which is the same upapada as the grooms indicating an arranged marriage. The lord Mercury indicates some advertizing is involved. Thankyou for giving us an oportunity to test the principles, please do post the final answer on these chart. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** On Behalf Of suchitra_kamath 05 August 2006 23:02 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Luv Vs Arrange Marriage- 3 couples Quiz Namaskar Visti/Sourav/Sameer and others I am presenting data of 3 couples. I know what kind of marriages they had.Let us try to analyze from chart why they had what they had. of the three couples one had pure arranged marriage( groom saw her 3 days before- decided on marriage ) one of the couple had purely emotional tie- they told their elders and got it arranged. the third couple sought each other themselves through means of advetisement etc( no emotional tie before marriage) and then told their elders and got married I hope this will be interesting and also help students. Thanks Suchitra North Indian couple Bride : May 4, 1974 Agra India Time:7.15 AM(morning) Groom: September 8, 1974 Lucknow India, 11.20 AM(morning) South Indian Couple Bride: August 14,1978, Bangalore India 12.55 Pm(afternoon) Groom: April 6, 1970 Manipal India 3.45 PM(afternoon) East Indian Couple Bride : 18 October 1974, Bombay India 7.59 Am(morning) Groom : 9 December 1969 Ranchi India 12.29 PM(afternoon) , ashish saxena <ashish0021 wrote: > > Dear Samir namaskar, > Thanks for your input. Well Visti ji said that I would meet my partner in about an year from now, I dont think it means marriage , also I m not into a relationship rite now, could u throw some light on timing of marriage > > thanks and regards > ashish > > Samir Shah <solaris.smoke wrote: > || hare räma kåñna || > > Dear Ashish, Namaskar > > For love marriage, look for a link between the UL/A7/Venus and 5th/7th houses. For arranged marriages, the 8th house needs to have an influence on the UL/7th house. > > In your case, the 5th lord Venus is in the UL, and the 5th house also has the A7. The A7 is also aspecting the UL. There is also the aspect on the UL of the 8th lord, but I think that this is a lesser influence - so a love marriage is, I think, likely. Now, I believe Vistiji has predicted marriage for you within the next year - so may I ask whether you are in a relationship at present? This is just for learning. > > Best wishes, > > Samir > > > > > At 13:29 03/08/2006, you wrote: > Dear Sir , > How do we figure out whether a person will haev love or arrange marriage. If u could answer this question in my horoscpoe. > > Ashish > 20th August 1983 > 3:12 AM > Chandigarh , India > > Thanks and Ragards > Ashish > > > Ashish Saxena > SDET > Microsoft India R & D Centre > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > Ashish Saxena > SDET > Microsoft India R & D Centre > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Karu, Namaste Parasara states that for relationships, look at the 7th from Venus and not at Venus' placement. love, Swee sweechan ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Karu, Namaskar Venus is karaka for all relationships... why just A7? Yes it can be used universally. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Karu 07 August 2006 03:08 sohamsa Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Luv Vs Arrange Marriage- 3 couples Quiz OM HRISHNA GURU Dear Visti, In fact it make good sence to use MK stana from Karaka Graha. I believe the rule can be applied universelly such as, when AL is im MK from Moon etc. But why did you looked UL placement from Venus ? Venus is karaka for A7 . Any way, Do you have any referance for this ? Best Wishes Karu North Indian Couple: In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is in marana karaka sthana from Venus, hence this marriage would not happen, and hence the next one is indicated by Pisces. Pisces has an exalted Venus who is also Lagnesh, and this is in trines to the lagna of the groom (scorpio). Hence this looks like an emotional tie which later was accepted by the parents giving a Daiva Vivaha (Mars lording seventh house in navamsa). I have deliberately skipped the chart of the groom, as he seems to have had a checkered past in the matter of relationships, especially the first major relationship was a source of great pain to him, due to the Atmakaraka Saturn joining this Upapada. South Indian Couple: In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is joined eighth lord Mercury and the Naisargika Pitri-karaka; Saturn. Hence, this marriage looks arranged on first glance. I do agree with Samir that there is need for remedial measures for this marriage. The grooms chart again poses to be very interesting. The Upapada is in the fourth house, but its lord Mars (mars is stronger) is joined a pravrajya yoga in the ninth house, indicating a desire to reject marriage and move on a more spiritual path. This would have delayed his marriage. However, this Mars is joined Saturn (naisargika pitrikaraka) and aspected by a retrograde-eighth lord Jupiter by graha dristi, which can bring an arranged marriage in a dasa/antara of Jupiter. It would be easy to accept this as a love-marriage, due to their upapadas matching each others lagnas, but i felt the strong influence of Saturn and Eighth lord on the upapadas would change that. Saturn and Mercury influence both Upapadas confirming their similarity. I believe this was a purely arranged marriage. East Indian Couple: In this chart the bride seems to have had one minor relationship before marriage due to weak planets joined the Upapada, and the lords both being in dusthanas (ketu as an exception could promote an arranged marriage). The next upapada is in Gemini which is the same upapada as the grooms indicating an arranged marriage. The lord Mercury indicates some advertizing is involved. Thankyou for giving us an oportunity to test the principles, please do post the final answer on these chart. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** On Behalf Of suchitra_kamath 05 August 2006 23:02 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Luv Vs Arrange Marriage- 3 couples Quiz Namaskar Visti/Sourav/Sameer and others I am presenting data of 3 couples. I know what kind of marriages they had.Let us try to analyze from chart why they had what they had. of the three couples one had pure arranged marriage( groom saw her 3 days before- decided on marriage ) one of the couple had purely emotional tie- they told their elders and got it arranged. the third couple sought each other themselves through means of advetisement etc( no emotional tie before marriage) and then told their elders and got married I hope this will be interesting and also help students. Thanks Suchitra North Indian couple Bride : May 4, 1974 Agra India Time:7.15 AM(morning) Groom: September 8, 1974 Lucknow India, 11.20 AM(morning) South Indian Couple Bride: August 14,1978, Bangalore India 12.55 Pm(afternoon) Groom: April 6, 1970 Manipal India 3.45 PM(afternoon) East Indian Couple Bride : 18 October 1974, Bombay India 7.59 Am(morning) Groom : 9 December 1969 Ranchi India 12.29 PM(afternoon) , ashish saxena <ashish0021 wrote: > > Dear Samir namaskar, > Thanks for your input. Well Visti ji said that I would meet my partner in about an year from now, I dont think it means marriage , also I m not into a relationship rite now, could u throw some light on timing of marriage > > thanks and regards > ashish > > Samir Shah <solaris.smoke wrote: > || hare räma kåñna || > > Dear Ashish, Namaskar > > For love marriage, look for a link between the UL/A7/Venus and 5th/7th houses. For arranged marriages, the 8th house needs to have an influence on the UL/7th house. > > In your case, the 5th lord Venus is in the UL, and the 5th house also has the A7. The A7 is also aspecting the UL. There is also the aspect on the UL of the 8th lord, but I think that this is a lesser influence - so a love marriage is, I think, likely. Now, I believe Vistiji has predicted marriage for you within the next year - so may I ask whether you are in a relationship at present? This is just for learning. > > Best wishes, > > Samir > > > > > At 13:29 03/08/2006, you wrote: > Dear Sir , > How do we figure out whether a person will haev love or arrange marriage. If u could answer this question in my horoscpoe. > > Ashish > 20th August 1983 > 3:12 AM > Chandigarh , India > > Thanks and Ragards > Ashish > > > Ashish Saxena > SDET > Microsoft India R & D Centre > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > Ashish Saxena > SDET > Microsoft India R & D Centre > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 OM KRISHNA GURU Dear Swee and Visti, Thanks Karu - Swee Chan sohamsa Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:21 AM RE: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Luv Vs Arrange Marriage- 3 couples Quiz Jaya JagannathaDear Karu,NamasteParasara states that for relationships, look at the 7th from Venus and not at Venus' placement.love,Sweesweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Karu, Namaskar Venus is karaka for all relationships... why just A7? Yes it can be used universally. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Karu07 August 2006 03:08sohamsa Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Luv Vs Arrange Marriage- 3 couples Quiz OM HRISHNA GURU Dear Visti, In fact it make good sence to use MK stana from Karaka Graha. I believe the rule can be applied universelly such as, when AL is im MK from Moon etc. But why did you looked UL placement from Venus ? Venus is karaka for A7 . Any way, Do you have any referance for this ? Best Wishes Karu North Indian Couple: In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is in marana karaka sthana from Venus, hence this marriage would not happen, and hence the next one is indicated by Pisces. Pisces has an exalted Venus who is also Lagnesh, and this is in trines to the lagna of the groom (scorpio). Hence this looks like an emotional tie which later was accepted by the parents giving a Daiva Vivaha (Mars lording seventh house in navamsa). I have deliberately skipped the chart of the groom, as he seems to have had a checkered past in the matter of relationships, especially the first major relationship was a source of great pain to him, due to the Atmakaraka Saturn joining this Upapada. South Indian Couple: In the chart of the bride, the first upapada is joined eighth lord Mercury and the Naisargika Pitri-karaka; Saturn. Hence, this marriage looks arranged on first glance. I do agree with Samir that there is need for remedial measures for this marriage. The grooms chart again poses to be very interesting. The Upapada is in the fourth house, but its lord Mars (mars is stronger) is joined a pravrajya yoga in the ninth house, indicating a desire to reject marriage and move on a more spiritual path. This would have delayed his marriage. However, this Mars is joined Saturn (naisargika pitrikaraka) and aspected by a retrograde-eighth lord Jupiter by graha dristi, which can bring an arranged marriage in a dasa/antara of Jupiter. It would be easy to accept this as a love-marriage, due to their upapadas matching each others lagnas, but i felt the strong influence of Saturn and Eighth lord on the upapadas would change that. Saturn and Mercury influence both Upapadas confirming their similarity. I believe this was a purely arranged marriage. East Indian Couple: In this chart the bride seems to have had one minor relationship before marriage due to weak planets joined the Upapada, and the lords both being in dusthanas (ketu as an exception could promote an arranged marriage). The next upapada is in Gemini which is the same upapada as the grooms indicating an arranged marriage. The lord Mercury indicates some advertizing is involved. Thankyou for giving us an oportunity to test the principles, please do post the final answer on these chart. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** On Behalf Of suchitra_kamath05 August 2006 23:02 Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Luv Vs Arrange Marriage- 3 couples Quiz Namaskar Visti/Sourav/Sameer and othersI am presenting data of 3 couples. I know what kind of marriages they had.Let us try to analyze from chart why they had what they had.of the three couples one had pure arranged marriage( groom saw her 3 days before- decided on marriage )one of the couple had purely emotional tie- they told their elders and got it arranged.the third couple sought each other themselves through means of advetisement etc( no emotional tie before marriage) and then told their elders and got marriedI hope this will be interesting and also help students.ThanksSuchitraNorth Indian coupleBride : May 4, 1974 Agra India Time:7.15 AM(morning)Groom: September 8, 1974 Lucknow India, 11.20 AM(morning)South Indian CoupleBride: August 14,1978, Bangalore India 12.55 Pm(afternoon)Groom: April 6, 1970 Manipal India 3.45 PM(afternoon)East Indian CoupleBride : 18 October 1974, Bombay India 7.59 Am(morning)Groom : 9 December 1969 Ranchi India 12.29 PM(afternoon) , ashish saxena <ashish0021 wrote:>> Dear Samir namaskar,> Thanks for your input. Well Visti ji said that I would meet my partner in about an year from now, I dont think it means marriage , also I m not into a relationship rite now, could u throw some light on timing of marriage> > thanks and regards> ashish> > Samir Shah <solaris.smoke wrote:> || hare räma kåñna ||> > Dear Ashish, Namaskar> > For love marriage, look for a link between the UL/A7/Venus and 5th/7th houses. For arranged marriages, the 8th house needs to have an influence on the UL/7th house. > > In your case, the 5th lord Venus is in the UL, and the 5th house also has the A7. The A7 is also aspecting the UL. There is also the aspect on the UL of the 8th lord, but I think that this is a lesser influence - so a love marriage is, I think, likely. Now, I believe Vistiji has predicted marriage for you within the next year -so may I ask whether you are in a relationship at present? This is just for learning.> > Best wishes,> > Samir> > > > > At 13:29 03/08/2006, you wrote:> Dear Sir ,> How do we figure out whether a person will haev love or arrange marriage. If u could answer this question in my horoscpoe.> > Ashish > 20th August 1983> 3:12 AM> Chandigarh , India> > Thanks and Ragards> Ashish> > > Ashish Saxena> SDET> Microsoft India R & D Centre> > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > Ashish Saxena> SDET> Microsoft India R & D Centre> > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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