Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Dear Anand, Just to attempt to give a few thoughts in addition to the valuable pointers that Visti has given. Regarding Brahman Shrapa. Guru is in the 4th House and as Visti said, this is what shows that the act which caused the curse was done with a good intention and ultimately after the curse has manifested, will give good results in the chart. As there is a Parivartana between Guru and Budh, the results of Guru will come from Meena Rashi and this shows that the knowledge wad done with intent and not blindly or out of ignorance. Mars is the greater malefic in the chart and the 11th Bhava being stronger shows that the sense of optimism and fulfilment of hopes, gains, income, freinds and father could be the areas where the suffering manifests through anger, sorrow and damage to the sense of self respect. The curse is strong and the element of sin incurred is also considerable due to the retrogression of Saturn and the involvement of the 8th Lord. The curse oridibarily could not have been redeemed due to the retrogression of Saturn but the 5th Lord Venus is exalted in the 10th House and remedial measures will work. Sanjay Ji has given remedial measures for the Brahman Shrapa in the Vedic Remedies in Astrology. I have recently had personal experience of these working 'miraculous results' in the charts of two parents with Brahman Shrapa afflicting progeny. Upon Upaya, there have been truly incredible results. Donate a cow on a Guruvar to a Brahmin and feed the Brahmins as well. If you are in areas where this can be done, then it is not as onerous as it might sound. Godaan works very well and the fact that Guru is Ishwara in the chart can be seen. About marriage. Well, the UL is in the 8th House and the 6th Lord Ketu is placed in it. Ketu is a benefic for the Upapada so the 6th Lordship is mitigated by that fact. The Lord of the Upapada, Shani is placed with the retrograde Badhak and is afflicted by Sun and Mars. Due to the Parivartana, exalted Mercury will conjoin the lord of the UL. The UL is in the 5th from the AL, shoing a relationship of affection. The Lords are also conjunct, showing close relations. But the UL Lord is debilitated in the Navamsha and is afflicted in Rashi. Saturn and Rahu, the two lords of the 2nd from UL are in debility in Navamsha. The relationship may not transform into marriage due to the affliction of the UL Lord and UL. Even the longevity is not free from stress. The next relationship is seen from Leo. The Lord Sun has directional strength and the 2nd Lord is well placed in rashi and Navamsha taking Parivartana into account. Best wishes, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com , " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Anand, Namaskar > > Comments below. I hope everyone benefits from this. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > > *** > > _____ > > On > Behalf Of Anendd > 01 August 2006 20:01 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Remedy for curse of a Brahmin > > > > Dear Sameer, > > I hope you won't mind other answering this question. Learned Visti, > please comment on my analysis. > > Looking at the chart, > 1. The planets involved are in the Kendra, so the intention of this girl was > good but the person took it wrong and have cursed her, and the Atmakaraka > Moon is not involved in this Curse or cursed so, it will not be a > everlasting one. > > > > [Visti] Rather, the cursed Jupiter is in a kendra so the intention was good. > > > > 2. The Retrograde of Ju and Sa indicates that the desire to have some > problems was intentional in the Home area and in the Work area. > > > > [Visti] I think you need to rething this one. > > > 3. The following mantra will alleviate based on the Jyothirlinga mantra OM > Namah Shivaaya Namah Bhimashankaraaya ( 5 malas) > > > > [Visti] You have chosen this based on AL and Moon. But, will this alleviate > the curse? > > > 4. UL is in the 8 House from Lagna with Ke. So the spouse might come from a > foreign region, and might get married secretly ( Reason: 8 th house being a > secret house) > > > > [Visti] No, not foreign, but could have different culture. I agree with the > ideas about secrecy. > > > 5. Ma in 10H, also leads to Kuja Dosha, leads to marriage after 28th > birthday. > > > > [Visti] Mars in tenth house does not lead to Kuja dosha. > > > I think this is what I see looking at the chart. > > Thanks > Anand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Sourav Ji, While on pronounciation. It is actually Braahmana when you see the word in the Devanagari script. It is not really that important but as you have spoken of it, so I am just clarifying the usage. In Jyotish we often try to approximate the Sanskrit and the Devanagari when we attempt to communicate in English. This is the reason for using devices like the diacritical signs in spiritual literature in English. This is the reason why Sanjay Ji, for example, uses them in his articles. 'Dasa' for example in fora like these, does not have a diacritical sign over the 'S' and frequently people will not pronounce the 's' as 'sh' but as 's' in 'silent', which is not the correct pronounciation. Again, I believe this is not very important. Yes, Brahmin, the word as it is written in the English language is the Dwija, or the twice born referring to the Upanayana Sanskar when the Brahim transforms from mere animal being to a spiritual entitiy. Parallel cultures across history have had many such 'rites of passage' which abound in mythological and anthropological writings. The word Brahman which I have used is not Brahman, used in English Indological and spiritual literature to denote the Universal Soul, but the Dwija. In the Hindi language there is no pronounciation like 'Brahmin'. This is just a peculiarity of the English language. The problem lies with the English language itself. The problem is this: Unlike the Hindi language which is perfectly 'phonetic' in that it is spoken exactly the way it is spoken, English is not so. Thus, words like 'knife' in which the 'k' for some unknown reason is silent. There are no such unknown reasons in the Devanagari Lipi, the Hindi Language and the Sanskrit, through which the 'light shines'. While on suffering a curse, Sanjay Ji brought out a beautiful point in his paper on Shrapa: spiritual people are seen to suffer a lot more because they are ensuring they get rid of this in this life itself and their sins are not transferred to another incarnation. I am in agreement with you about the internalising of the lessons. That is well put. Regards. Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com , " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote: > > > || Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Anuraag-ji, > > Namaskar. Its Brahmin and not Brahman. > Brahmin is a Dvija. Nice explanation. Go-daan is also giving wealth and > cows represent wealth in olden times. This is stated for those cultures > which do not have a tradition. > > A curse or a shaapa shows that there is a need to learn a particular > lesson in life (through suffering and remedial actions). Hence we should > always highlight this *learning* part. Donation of cow or offering > flower to a deity is a symbolic gesture only and is similar to idol > worship (which is necessary for most of us). But one needs to > internalize these lessons conciously and properly. That is the best > remedy. For Brahim shaapa, obeying and respecting the elders and wise > and conforming to laws and ethics (Guru) is essential. > > Have you wondered why Curses are sins that are transferred from one life > to next, and even across generations, and not just nullified by > suffering withing that past life itself ? This is because knowledge is > not internalized. Just wanted to stress on this. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ================================================================ > > Best wishes, > > Sourav sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " <anuraagsharma27 wrote: > > Dear Anand, > > Just to attempt to give a few thoughts in addition to the valuable > pointers that Visti has given. > > Regarding Brahman Shrapa. Guru is in the 4th House and as Visti > said, this is what shows that the act which caused the curse was > done with a good intention and ultimately after the curse has > manifested, will give good results in the chart. > > As there is a Parivartana between Guru and Budh, the results of Guru > will come from Meena Rashi and this shows that the knowledge wad > done with intent and not blindly or out of ignorance. > > Mars is the greater malefic in the chart and the 11th Bhava being > stronger shows that the sense of optimism and fulfilment of hopes, > gains, income, freinds and father could be the areas where the > suffering manifests through anger, sorrow and damage to the sense of > self respect. > > The curse is strong and the element of sin incurred is also > considerable due to the retrogression of Saturn and the involvement > of the 8th Lord. The curse oridibarily could not have been redeemed > due to the retrogression of Saturn but the 5th Lord Venus is exalted > in the 10th House and remedial measures will work. > > Sanjay Ji has given remedial measures for the Brahman Shrapa in the > Vedic Remedies in Astrology. I have recently had personal experience > of these working 'miraculous results' in the charts of two parents > with Brahman Shrapa afflicting progeny. Upon Upaya, there have been > truly incredible results. Donate a cow on a Guruvar to a Brahmin and > feed the Brahmins as well. If you are in areas where this can be > done, then it is not as onerous as it might sound. Godaan works very > well and the fact that Guru is Ishwara in the chart can be seen. > > About marriage. Well, the UL is in the 8th House and the 6th Lord > Ketu is placed in it. Ketu is a benefic for the Upapada so the 6th > Lordship is mitigated by that fact. The Lord of the Upapada, Shani > is placed with the retrograde Badhak and is afflicted by Sun and > Mars. Due to the Parivartana, exalted Mercury will conjoin the lord > of the UL. The UL is in the 5th from the AL, shoing a relationship > of affection. The Lords are also conjunct, showing close relations. > But the UL Lord is debilitated in the Navamsha and is afflicted in > Rashi. > > Saturn and Rahu, the two lords of the 2nd from UL are in debility in > Navamsha. The relationship may not transform into marriage due to > the affliction of the UL Lord and UL. Even the longevity is not free > from stress. The next relationship is seen from Leo. The Lord Sun > has directional strength and the 2nd Lord is well placed in rashi > and Navamsha taking Parivartana into account. > > Best wishes, > Anurag Sharma > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > > > > > , " Visti Larsen " <visti@> > wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Anand, Namaskar > > > > Comments below. I hope everyone benefits from this. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > > On > > Behalf Of Anendd > > 01 August 2006 20:01 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Remedy for curse of a Brahmin > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > > I hope you won't mind other answering this question. Learned > Visti, > > please comment on my analysis. > > > > Looking at the chart, > > 1. The planets involved are in the Kendra, so the intention of > this girl was > > good but the person took it wrong and have cursed her, and the > Atmakaraka > > Moon is not involved in this Curse or cursed so, it will not be a > > everlasting one. > > > > > > > > [Visti] Rather, the cursed Jupiter is in a kendra so the intention > was good. > > > > > > > > 2. The Retrograde of Ju and Sa indicates that the desire to have > some > > problems was intentional in the Home area and in the Work area. > > > > > > > > [Visti] I think you need to rething this one. > > > > > > 3. The following mantra will alleviate based on the Jyothirlinga > mantra OM > > Namah Shivaaya Namah Bhimashankaraaya ( 5 malas) > > > > > > > > [Visti] You have chosen this based on AL and Moon. But, will this > alleviate > > the curse? > > > > > > 4. UL is in the 8 House from Lagna with Ke. So the spouse might > come from a > > foreign region, and might get married secretly ( Reason: 8 th > house being a > > secret house) > > > > > > > > [Visti] No, not foreign, but could have different culture. I agree > with the > > ideas about secrecy. > > > > > > 5. Ma in 10H, also leads to Kuja Dosha, leads to marriage after > 28th > > birthday. > > > > > > > > [Visti] Mars in tenth house does not lead to Kuja dosha. > > > > > > I think this is what I see looking at the chart. > > > > Thanks > > Anand > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Arvind, I think you might want to look at the Male Chart slightly more carefully. There is a Brahman Shrapa in the chart. Guru is afflicted in Guru-Chandala Yoga. But this happens in the 4th House and shows that the act which got cursed was done with good intent. The native knew exactly what he was doing as Guru is in Dhanu Rashi. The involvement of the 8th Lord and the Lagnesh shows that there has been considerable sin incurred and that the Dhi Shakti/ intelligence or the sense of self worth has suffered harm due to this curse. This is the first thing that has to be remedies. The Saptamshas in both charts do not have Shani, Budh and Shukra in trines and the Vikrama Pada and the Bhagya Pada are not badly placed from the Sun as well. The Arudha of the 3rd and 9th Bhavas from the Sun are also well- placed in both charts. The Upaya for the Brahman Shrapa should alleviate this problem. The Upaya is given in an earlier e-mail below. Bhagwad Gita Daan is also considered akin to Go Daan so you may consider that in case the Go Daan is not possible. In the male chart, Rahu loses a lot of its strength due to the fact it is Neecha in Dhanu Navamsha. Its Moola Dasha has delivered the curse. The 8th House of sudden events and physical and mental torment can be the focal area for the manifestation of the curse. The 4th House will also be badly affected and Sukha and domestic environment will suffer. Mars is not retrograde and the Upaya will bear fruit. The remaining 4 years of Rahu Dasha will become tolerable and the Dwara of the Arudha will open with attention paid to the Shrapa in the 7th therefrom. Guru is also the Badhak and adds to the difficulties in that regard. I hope this clarifies the situation somewhat regarding the Brahman Shrapa. If the Upaya is done, a daughter should be born. This is shown by the 5th Lord Venus in the Saptamsha conjoining the Moon in Mithun Rashi. The likelihood is of one child as Rahu is in Lagna. Though Rahu is exalted but two female Grahas and the Rashi show a daughter. Best Wishes, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com vedic astrology , arvind markanday <raj7911 wrote: > > Respected all, > > I have managed to get the details of my friend also > ..and it seems that its the chart of wife that is more > severly affilicted ...Can some one comment on this & > suggest some remedy for this... > > I her chart Gemini Asc : > > Lord of 5th venus is placed in 8th house (debilitated > in Navmansa) with rahu in 8th & lord of sixth mars > aspects 5thhouse from 10th house. is this the reason > why they dont have child yet?? Some one suggested to > wear Blue saphhire ..they were in canada that > time(April 2005) & had a very terrible time there & > returned back to india in August 2005 > > > > Birth details for both the person are as following: > > > > Male: 22-sep-1972 , )7:00am, 76:35E , 30 :50N > > Female: 10Jan-1972, 16:00 , 77:42E, 29:00N > > > > I request someone to please suggest some remedy for > this.... > > > > Thanks & regards > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " <anuraagsharma27 wrote: > > Dear Sourav Ji, > > While on pronounciation. It is actually Braahmana when you see the > word in the Devanagari script. It is not really that important but > as you have spoken of it, so I am just clarifying the usage. In > Jyotish we often try to approximate the Sanskrit and the Devanagari > when we attempt to communicate in English. This is the reason for > using devices like the diacritical signs in spiritual literature in > English. This is the reason why Sanjay Ji, for example, uses them in > his articles. > > 'Dasa' for example in fora like these, does not have a diacritical > sign over the 'S' and frequently people will not pronounce the 's' > as 'sh' but as 's' in 'silent', which is not the correct > pronounciation. Again, I believe this is not very important. > > Yes, Brahmin, the word as it is written in the English language is > the Dwija, or the twice born referring to the Upanayana Sanskar when > the Brahim transforms from mere animal being to a spiritual entitiy. > Parallel cultures across history have had many such 'rites of > passage' which abound in mythological and anthropological writings. > The word Brahman which I have used is not Brahman, used in English > Indological and spiritual literature to denote the Universal Soul, > but the Dwija. In the Hindi language there is no pronounciation > like 'Brahmin'. This is just a peculiarity of the English language. > > The problem lies with the English language itself. The problem is > this: Unlike the Hindi language which is perfectly 'phonetic' in > that it is spoken exactly the way it is spoken, English is not so. > Thus, words like 'knife' in which the 'k' for some unknown reason is > silent. There are no such unknown reasons in the Devanagari Lipi, > the Hindi Language and the Sanskrit, through which the 'light > shines'. > > While on suffering a curse, Sanjay Ji brought out a beautiful point > in his paper on Shrapa: spiritual people are seen to suffer a lot > more because they are ensuring they get rid of this in this life > itself and their sins are not transferred to another incarnation. > > I am in agreement with you about the internalising of the lessons. > That is well put. > > Regards. > Anurag Sharma > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > , " Sourav " <souravc108@> wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > Dear Anuraag-ji, > > > > Namaskar. Its Brahmin and not > Brahman. > > Brahmin is a Dvija. Nice explanation. Go-daan is also giving > wealth and > > cows represent wealth in olden times. This is stated for those > cultures > > which do not have a tradition. > > > > A curse or a shaapa shows that there is a need to learn a > particular > > lesson in life (through suffering and remedial actions). Hence we > should > > always highlight this *learning* part. Donation of cow or offering > > flower to a deity is a symbolic gesture only and is similar to idol > > worship (which is necessary for most of us). But one needs to > > internalize these lessons conciously and properly. That is the best > > remedy. For Brahim shaapa, obeying and respecting the elders and > wise > > and conforming to laws and ethics (Guru) is essential. > > > > Have you wondered why Curses are sins that are transferred from > one life > > to next, and even across generations, and not just nullified by > > suffering withing that past life itself ? This is because > knowledge is > > not internalized. Just wanted to stress on this. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > ================================================================ > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anand, > > > > Just to attempt to give a few thoughts in addition to the valuable > > pointers that Visti has given. > > > > Regarding Brahman Shrapa. Guru is in the 4th House and as Visti > > said, this is what shows that the act which caused the curse was > > done with a good intention and ultimately after the curse has > > manifested, will give good results in the chart. > > > > As there is a Parivartana between Guru and Budh, the results of > Guru > > will come from Meena Rashi and this shows that the knowledge wad > > done with intent and not blindly or out of ignorance. > > > > Mars is the greater malefic in the chart and the 11th Bhava being > > stronger shows that the sense of optimism and fulfilment of hopes, > > gains, income, freinds and father could be the areas where the > > suffering manifests through anger, sorrow and damage to the sense > of > > self respect. > > > > The curse is strong and the element of sin incurred is also > > considerable due to the retrogression of Saturn and the > involvement > > of the 8th Lord. The curse oridibarily could not have been > redeemed > > due to the retrogression of Saturn but the 5th Lord Venus is > exalted > > in the 10th House and remedial measures will work. > > > > Sanjay Ji has given remedial measures for the Brahman Shrapa in > the > > Vedic Remedies in Astrology. I have recently had personal > experience > > of these working 'miraculous results' in the charts of two parents > > with Brahman Shrapa afflicting progeny. Upon Upaya, there have > been > > truly incredible results. Donate a cow on a Guruvar to a Brahmin > and > > feed the Brahmins as well. If you are in areas where this can be > > done, then it is not as onerous as it might sound. Godaan works > very > > well and the fact that Guru is Ishwara in the chart can be seen. > > > > About marriage. Well, the UL is in the 8th House and the 6th Lord > > Ketu is placed in it. Ketu is a benefic for the Upapada so the 6th > > Lordship is mitigated by that fact. The Lord of the Upapada, Shani > > is placed with the retrograde Badhak and is afflicted by Sun and > > Mars. Due to the Parivartana, exalted Mercury will conjoin the > lord > > of the UL. The UL is in the 5th from the AL, shoing a relationship > > of affection. The Lords are also conjunct, showing close > relations. > > But the UL Lord is debilitated in the Navamsha and is afflicted in > > Rashi. > > > > Saturn and Rahu, the two lords of the 2nd from UL are in debility > in > > Navamsha. The relationship may not transform into marriage due to > > the affliction of the UL Lord and UL. Even the longevity is not > free > > from stress. The next relationship is seen from Leo. The Lord Sun > > has directional strength and the 2nd Lord is well placed in rashi > > and Navamsha taking Parivartana into account. > > > > Best wishes, > > Anurag Sharma > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Visti Larsen " <visti@> > > wrote: > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > Dear Anand, Namaskar > > > > > > Comments below. I hope everyone benefits from this. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > > > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > On > > > Behalf Of Anendd > > > 01 August 2006 20:01 > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Remedy for curse of a Brahmin > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > > > > I hope you won't mind other answering this question. Learned > > Visti, > > > please comment on my analysis. > > > > > > Looking at the chart, > > > 1. The planets involved are in the Kendra, so the intention of > > this girl was > > > good but the person took it wrong and have cursed her, and the > > Atmakaraka > > > Moon is not involved in this Curse or cursed so, it will not be a > > > everlasting one. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] Rather, the cursed Jupiter is in a kendra so the > intention > > was good. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. The Retrograde of Ju and Sa indicates that the desire to have > > some > > > problems was intentional in the Home area and in the Work area. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] I think you need to rething this one. > > > > > > > > > 3. The following mantra will alleviate based on the Jyothirlinga > > mantra OM > > > Namah Shivaaya Namah Bhimashankaraaya ( 5 malas) > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] You have chosen this based on AL and Moon. But, will > this > > alleviate > > > the curse? > > > > > > > > > 4. UL is in the 8 House from Lagna with Ke. So the spouse might > > come from a > > > foreign region, and might get married secretly ( Reason: 8 th > > house being a > > > secret house) > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] No, not foreign, but could have different culture. I > agree > > with the > > > ideas about secrecy. > > > > > > > > > 5. Ma in 10H, also leads to Kuja Dosha, leads to marriage after > > 28th > > > birthday. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] Mars in tenth house does not lead to Kuja dosha. > > > > > > > > > I think this is what I see looking at the chart. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Anand > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Suresh, You have writen this on Guruvar and it appears to be the strength of Guru placed in Kendra in Dhanu Rashi that has brought this for you. Guru Moola dasha started in 1998! It is capable of delivering the curse. The Moola Dasha of Mars that was runnning till recently is involved in the curse. Guru shows that the intention which prompted the act on your part was good. The 8th Lord Mars shows the sin is heavy. Mars is retrograde showing that remedial measures may not relieve the evil entirely but will give you the strength to bear the burden. Guru is aspected by the Graha Drishti of Rahu and Mars. Mars is more malefic. Sudden adverse developments and perceived work will suffer due to the focus of the anger and the shock being the 8th House (10th from the Arudha Lagna). Donate 4 Bhagwad Gitas to Brahmins or to a spiritual insititute that can accept them of the donation of a cow on Guruvar is not possible. This will give you the strength to bear the adversity. The current stresses are more due to the Sade-Sati for the Simha Rashi in your chart. Recite the Rudra Chamakam for relief. Saturn is also forming Kantak Shani from the AL and this recitation is the primary remedy. The worst of past Karma and the Brahman Shrapa is over. Best Wishes, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com vedic astrology , " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman wrote: > > Dear Anuragji, > > I read your interpretation about Brahman Shrapa.I too have Guru in > Dhanush,4th house from Kanya Lagna.(3 Feb 1961;21.39 > PM;Bangalore,India).Am i supposed to assume that i have > Kendradhipathi Dosha,and do remedial work?My career has come to a > abrupt end here in USA,from June 1998,and i am at my wits end to > figure out,as to what the hell is going on this particular aspect of > my life.Any suggestions,would be gratefully accepted.Thanks, > > Suresh. sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " <anuraagsharma27 wrote: > > Dear Arvind, > > I think you might want to look at the Male Chart slightly more > carefully. There is a Brahman Shrapa in the chart. Guru is afflicted > in Guru-Chandala Yoga. But this happens in the 4th House and shows > that the act which got cursed was done with good intent. The native > knew exactly what he was doing as Guru is in Dhanu Rashi. > > The involvement of the 8th Lord and the Lagnesh shows that there has > been considerable sin incurred and that the Dhi Shakti/ intelligence > or the sense of self worth has suffered harm due to this curse. This > is the first thing that has to be remedies. The Saptamshas in both > charts do not have Shani, Budh and Shukra in trines and the Vikrama > Pada and the Bhagya Pada are not badly placed from the Sun as well. > > The Arudha of the 3rd and 9th Bhavas from the Sun are also well- > placed in both charts. > > The Upaya for the Brahman Shrapa should alleviate this problem. The > Upaya is given in an earlier e-mail below. Bhagwad Gita Daan is also > considered akin to Go Daan so you may consider that in case the Go > Daan is not possible. > > In the male chart, Rahu loses a lot of its strength due to the fact > it is Neecha in Dhanu Navamsha. Its Moola Dasha has delivered the > curse. > > The 8th House of sudden events and physical and mental torment can > be the focal area for the manifestation of the curse. The 4th House > will also be badly affected and Sukha and domestic environment will > suffer. Mars is not retrograde and the Upaya will bear fruit. The > remaining 4 years of Rahu Dasha will become tolerable and the Dwara > of the Arudha will open with attention paid to the Shrapa in the 7th > therefrom. Guru is also the Badhak and adds to the difficulties in > that regard. > > I hope this clarifies the situation somewhat regarding the Brahman > Shrapa. > > If the Upaya is done, a daughter should be born. This is shown by > the 5th Lord Venus in the Saptamsha conjoining the Moon in Mithun > Rashi. The likelihood is of one child as Rahu is in Lagna. Though > Rahu is exalted but two female Grahas and the Rashi show a daughter. > > Best Wishes, > Anurag Sharma > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > > > vedic astrology , arvind markanday > <raj7911@> wrote: > > > > Respected all, > > > > I have managed to get the details of my friend also > > ..and it seems that its the chart of wife that is more > > severly affilicted ...Can some one comment on this & > > suggest some remedy for this... > > > > I her chart Gemini Asc : > > > > Lord of 5th venus is placed in 8th house (debilitated > > in Navmansa) with rahu in 8th & lord of sixth mars > > aspects 5thhouse from 10th house. is this the reason > > why they dont have child yet?? Some one suggested to > > wear Blue saphhire ..they were in canada that > > time(April 2005) & had a very terrible time there & > > returned back to india in August 2005 > > > > > > > > Birth details for both the person are as following: > > > > > > > > Male: 22-sep-1972 , )7:00am, 76:35E , 30 :50N > > > > Female: 10Jan-1972, 16:00 , 77:42E, 29:00N > > > > > > > > I request someone to please suggest some remedy for > > this.... > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards > > > > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sourav Ji, > > > > While on pronounciation. It is actually Braahmana when you see the > > word in the Devanagari script. It is not really that important but > > as you have spoken of it, so I am just clarifying the usage. In > > Jyotish we often try to approximate the Sanskrit and the > Devanagari > > when we attempt to communicate in English. This is the reason for > > using devices like the diacritical signs in spiritual literature > in > > English. This is the reason why Sanjay Ji, for example, uses them > in > > his articles. > > > > 'Dasa' for example in fora like these, does not have a diacritical > > sign over the 'S' and frequently people will not pronounce the 's' > > as 'sh' but as 's' in 'silent', which is not the correct > > pronounciation. Again, I believe this is not very important. > > > > Yes, Brahmin, the word as it is written in the English language is > > the Dwija, or the twice born referring to the Upanayana Sanskar > when > > the Brahim transforms from mere animal being to a spiritual > entitiy. > > Parallel cultures across history have had many such 'rites of > > passage' which abound in mythological and anthropological > writings. > > The word Brahman which I have used is not Brahman, used in English > > Indological and spiritual literature to denote the Universal Soul, > > but the Dwija. In the Hindi language there is no pronounciation > > like 'Brahmin'. This is just a peculiarity of the English language. > > > > The problem lies with the English language itself. The problem is > > this: Unlike the Hindi language which is perfectly 'phonetic' in > > that it is spoken exactly the way it is spoken, English is not so. > > Thus, words like 'knife' in which the 'k' for some unknown reason > is > > silent. There are no such unknown reasons in the Devanagari Lipi, > > the Hindi Language and the Sanskrit, through which the 'light > > shines'. > > > > While on suffering a curse, Sanjay Ji brought out a beautiful > point > > in his paper on Shrapa: spiritual people are seen to suffer a lot > > more because they are ensuring they get rid of this in this life > > itself and their sins are not transferred to another incarnation. > > > > I am in agreement with you about the internalising of the lessons. > > That is well put. > > > > Regards. > > Anurag Sharma > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > > > , " Sourav " <souravc108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Anuraag-ji, > > > > > > Namaskar. Its Brahmin and not > > Brahman. > > > Brahmin is a Dvija. Nice explanation. Go-daan is also giving > > wealth and > > > cows represent wealth in olden times. This is stated for those > > cultures > > > which do not have a tradition. > > > > > > A curse or a shaapa shows that there is a need to learn a > > particular > > > lesson in life (through suffering and remedial actions). Hence > we > > should > > > always highlight this *learning* part. Donation of cow or > offering > > > flower to a deity is a symbolic gesture only and is similar to > idol > > > worship (which is necessary for most of us). But one needs to > > > internalize these lessons conciously and properly. That is the > best > > > remedy. For Brahim shaapa, obeying and respecting the elders and > > wise > > > and conforming to laws and ethics (Guru) is essential. > > > > > > Have you wondered why Curses are sins that are transferred from > > one life > > > to next, and even across generations, and not just nullified by > > > suffering withing that past life itself ? This is because > > knowledge is > > > not internalized. Just wanted to stress on this. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > ================================================================ > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Anand, > > > > > > Just to attempt to give a few thoughts in addition to the > valuable > > > pointers that Visti has given. > > > > > > Regarding Brahman Shrapa. Guru is in the 4th House and as Visti > > > said, this is what shows that the act which caused the curse was > > > done with a good intention and ultimately after the curse has > > > manifested, will give good results in the chart. > > > > > > As there is a Parivartana between Guru and Budh, the results of > > Guru > > > will come from Meena Rashi and this shows that the knowledge wad > > > done with intent and not blindly or out of ignorance. > > > > > > Mars is the greater malefic in the chart and the 11th Bhava > being > > > stronger shows that the sense of optimism and fulfilment of > hopes, > > > gains, income, freinds and father could be the areas where the > > > suffering manifests through anger, sorrow and damage to the > sense > > of > > > self respect. > > > > > > The curse is strong and the element of sin incurred is also > > > considerable due to the retrogression of Saturn and the > > involvement > > > of the 8th Lord. The curse oridibarily could not have been > > redeemed > > > due to the retrogression of Saturn but the 5th Lord Venus is > > exalted > > > in the 10th House and remedial measures will work. > > > > > > Sanjay Ji has given remedial measures for the Brahman Shrapa in > > the > > > Vedic Remedies in Astrology. I have recently had personal > > experience > > > of these working 'miraculous results' in the charts of two > parents > > > with Brahman Shrapa afflicting progeny. Upon Upaya, there have > > been > > > truly incredible results. Donate a cow on a Guruvar to a Brahmin > > and > > > feed the Brahmins as well. If you are in areas where this can be > > > done, then it is not as onerous as it might sound. Godaan works > > very > > > well and the fact that Guru is Ishwara in the chart can be seen. > > > > > > About marriage. Well, the UL is in the 8th House and the 6th > Lord > > > Ketu is placed in it. Ketu is a benefic for the Upapada so the > 6th > > > Lordship is mitigated by that fact. The Lord of the Upapada, > Shani > > > is placed with the retrograde Badhak and is afflicted by Sun and > > > Mars. Due to the Parivartana, exalted Mercury will conjoin the > > lord > > > of the UL. The UL is in the 5th from the AL, shoing a > relationship > > > of affection. The Lords are also conjunct, showing close > > relations. > > > But the UL Lord is debilitated in the Navamsha and is afflicted > in > > > Rashi. > > > > > > Saturn and Rahu, the two lords of the 2nd from UL are in > debility > > in > > > Navamsha. The relationship may not transform into marriage due > to > > > the affliction of the UL Lord and UL. Even the longevity is not > > free > > > from stress. The next relationship is seen from Leo. The Lord > Sun > > > has directional strength and the 2nd Lord is well placed in > rashi > > > and Navamsha taking Parivartana into account. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Anurag Sharma > > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Visti Larsen " <visti@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > > > > > Dear Anand, Namaskar > > > > > > > > Comments below. I hope everyone benefits from this. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > On > > > > Behalf Of Anendd > > > > 01 August 2006 20:01 > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Remedy for curse of a Brahmin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > > > > > > I hope you won't mind other answering this question. > Learned > > > Visti, > > > > please comment on my analysis. > > > > > > > > Looking at the chart, > > > > 1. The planets involved are in the Kendra, so the intention of > > > this girl was > > > > good but the person took it wrong and have cursed her, and the > > > Atmakaraka > > > > Moon is not involved in this Curse or cursed so, it will not > be a > > > > everlasting one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] Rather, the cursed Jupiter is in a kendra so the > > intention > > > was good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. The Retrograde of Ju and Sa indicates that the desire to > have > > > some > > > > problems was intentional in the Home area and in the Work > area. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] I think you need to rething this one. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The following mantra will alleviate based on the > Jyothirlinga > > > mantra OM > > > > Namah Shivaaya Namah Bhimashankaraaya ( 5 malas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] You have chosen this based on AL and Moon. But, will > > this > > > alleviate > > > > the curse? > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. UL is in the 8 House from Lagna with Ke. So the spouse > might > > > come from a > > > > foreign region, and might get married secretly ( Reason: 8 th > > > house being a > > > > secret house) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] No, not foreign, but could have different culture. I > > agree > > > with the > > > > ideas about secrecy. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Ma in 10H, also leads to Kuja Dosha, leads to marriage > after > > > 28th > > > > birthday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Visti] Mars in tenth house does not lead to Kuja dosha. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is what I see looking at the chart. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Anand > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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