saptani or avakalatra yoga--Tosanjay ji and all learned members.pls clarify

[Guest guest]

Respected sanjay ji,Thanks a lot!I still hv doubts and

confusions.Mangala word comes fm mangalasutra.It also means

auspiciousness and it too plays a role in menstrual cycle so I guess

(with my limited knowledge) mars MUST b a important planet in a

woman's chart irrespective of it being 7th L or not.But look at mars

in this context--a brahamchari planet being the lord of 7th H and

exalted and sitting alone in 9th H unaspected by any other planet.How

wud U fit this concept of celibacy Vs erotic pleasures of mars in

this context?A strong mars means more or longer period of

brahamcharya and weak mars means the opposite????For such a mars wud

U advice praying 2 Lord shiva or hanumanji?As hanuman was celibate

and Lord shiva had a spouse.Another thing that I wanted 2 ask U and

all members over here is that I came across this book in hindi edited

by K N Rao and written by M S Mehta(book is kundali vivechan tatha

phalit siddhant by sagar publication).On page 166 the author says 7th

L in 9th H or 5th H forms saptani or avkalatra yoga.This is a bad

yoga as per the author.K N rao considers 7th L in 9th H bad for all

lagna's .U hv written in one of the recent threads " The 7th lord Sun

is in 9H and in 11H from AL. I want to pacify the badhak. Unless

badhak is pacified nothing works. " I agree for fixed signs 9th H is

badhak hence the troubles indicated .Does your parampara follow the

same rule of defining such a placement as avakalatra yoga?Again

correct me if I m going wrong anywhere!Thanks in advance.regards,M.---

In sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath wrote:

>

>

>

>

> | om gurave namah |

> Dear Mahek

> Nothing happens without Venus...nothing. I don’t care how much

any other graha may try to get sexy, they are all *frigid* without

Venus. Once venus comes into the picture everything changes and they

the watery element gets going. The *water boy* causes lots of fluids

to move in the body and then life gets going and good health and all

that followed by sex. So it is Venus and none other. The Käraka

cannot be changed.

>

> Some say Mars is husband in female chart while others say Jupiter.

I follow Jupiter as käraka for husband. Mars is käraka for the

*other men*. Yet nobody can do anything unless Venus says go ahead.

>

> Best wishes and warm regards,

> Sanjay Rath

>

> Personal: WebPages ◠Rath’s Rhapsody

> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center â— SJCERC â— JIVA

> Publications: The Jyotish Digest â— Sagittarius Publications

> --

--

>

>

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of mahek76

> Friday, July 07, 2006 2:38 PM

> sohamsa

> To sanjay ji and all learned members.Mars--

celibate or carnal?

>

> Dear Sanjay Ji, and all learned members,

> Mars is the planet of celibacy.I also

read somewhere that mars is significator of carnal desires in a

female chart.Correct me if I m wrong.Why this contracdiction?How can

a planet b brahamchari as well as significator of sexual desires?

What shud we interpret when mars is exalted and happens to b the 7th

lord for Taurus ascendants in terms of brahamcharya as well as carnal

desires (two opposite poles).Laser is a bloodless surgery.Does mars

play role in it?Which planet represents laser beam or minor laser

surgery .Pls guide us.Thanks and regards,M.

>

 

[Guest guest]

Respected sanjayji,pvr sir and all guru's as well as members of this

list,

Happy Guru pournima 2 all!Thanks for

providing us light via jyotish .Does this yoga called saptani or

avkalatra yoga (7th Lord in 9th House in a woman's chart)mentioned

anywhere in BPHS by Maharishi parashara or does any other classical

astrological text support this?Please throw light on this.Kindly help!

Thanks & Regards,M.

sohamsa , " mahek76 " <mahek76 wrote:

>

> Respected sanjay ji,Thanks a lot!I still hv doubts and

> confusions.Mangala word comes fm mangalasutra.It also means

> auspiciousness and it too plays a role in menstrual cycle so I guess

> (with my limited knowledge) mars MUST b a important planet in a

> woman's chart irrespective of it being 7th L or not.But look at

mars

> in this context--a brahamchari planet being the lord of 7th H and

> exalted and sitting alone in 9th H unaspected by any other

planet.How

> wud U fit this concept of celibacy Vs erotic pleasures of mars in

> this context?A strong mars means more or longer period of

> brahamcharya and weak mars means the opposite????For such a mars

wud

> U advice praying 2 Lord shiva or hanumanji?As hanuman was celibate

> and Lord shiva had a spouse.Another thing that I wanted 2 ask U and

> all members over here is that I came across this book in hindi

edited

> by K N Rao and written by M S Mehta(book is kundali vivechan tatha

> phalit siddhant by sagar publication).On page 166 the author says

7th

> L in 9th H or 5th H forms saptani or avkalatra yoga.This is a bad

> yoga as per the author.K N rao considers 7th L in 9th H bad for all

> lagna's .U hv written in one of the recent threads " The 7th lord

Sun

> is in 9H and in 11H from AL. I want to pacify the badhak. Unless

> badhak is pacified nothing works. " I agree for fixed signs 9th H is

> badhak hence the troubles indicated .Does your parampara follow the

> same rule of defining such a placement as avakalatra yoga?Again

> correct me if I m going wrong anywhere!Thanks in advance.regards,M.-

--

> In sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > | om gurave namah |

> > Dear Mahek

> > Nothing happens without Venus...nothing. I don’t care how much

> any other graha may try to get sexy, they are all *frigid* without

> Venus. Once venus comes into the picture everything changes and

they

> the watery element gets going. The *water boy* causes lots of

fluids

> to move in the body and then life gets going and good health and

all

> that followed by sex. So it is Venus and none other. The Käraka

> cannot be changed.

> >

> > Some say Mars is husband in female chart while others say

Jupiter.

> I follow Jupiter as käraka for husband. Mars is käraka for the

> *other men*. Yet nobody can do anything unless Venus says go ahead.

> >

> > Best wishes and warm regards,

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

> > Personal: WebPages ◠Rath’s Rhapsody

> > SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center â— SJCERC â— JIVA

> > Publications: The Jyotish Digest â— Sagittarius Publications

> >

--

> --

> >

> >

> >

> > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

> Behalf Of mahek76

> > Friday, July 07, 2006 2:38 PM

> > sohamsa

> > To sanjay ji and all learned members.Mars--

> celibate or carnal?

> >

> > Dear Sanjay Ji, and all learned members,

> > Mars is the planet of celibacy.I also

> read somewhere that mars is significator of carnal desires in a

> female chart.Correct me if I m wrong.Why this contracdiction?How

can

> a planet b brahamchari as well as significator of sexual desires?

> What shud we interpret when mars is exalted and happens to b the

7th

> lord for Taurus ascendants in terms of brahamcharya as well as

carnal

> desires (two opposite poles).Laser is a bloodless surgery.Does mars

> play role in it?Which planet represents laser beam or minor laser

> surgery .Pls guide us.Thanks and regards,M.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Mahek, As Mr.RATH has pointed out that , Venus gives urge for sex Jupiter is husband in the case of female Mars is the vital fluid in female which helps in pregnancy and also represent male member with whom sex is performed on the instigation of Venus(This male may be husband). In case of male ,Venus represent sex ,wife and other sex partner. Mars provides vital force for any activity being natural karka of 3rd house. Every one requires lot of will and power to practice celibacy as it is like concurring over natual instincts.Natually Mars karka of 6th house will help(Ketu is co-karka of 6th house) G.K.GOEL mahek76 <mahek76 wrote: Respected sanjayji,pvr sir and all guru's as well as members of this list,Happy Guru pournima 2 all!Thanks for providing us light via jyotish .Does this yoga called saptani or avkalatra yoga (7th Lord in 9th House in a woman's chart)mentioned anywhere in BPHS by Maharishi parashara or does any other classical astrological text support this?Please throw light on this.Kindly help!Thanks & Regards,M.sohamsa , "mahek76" <mahek76 wrote:>> Respected sanjay ji,Thanks a lot!I still hv doubts and > confusions.Mangala word comes fm mangalasutra.It also

means > auspiciousness and it too plays a role in menstrual cycle so I guess> (with my limited knowledge) mars MUST b a important planet in a > woman's chart irrespective of it being 7th L or not.But look at mars > in this context--a brahamchari planet being the lord of 7th H and > exalted and sitting alone in 9th H unaspected by any other planet.How > wud U fit this concept of celibacy Vs erotic pleasures of mars in > this context?A strong mars means more or longer period of > brahamcharya and weak mars means the opposite????For such a mars wud > U advice praying 2 Lord shiva or hanumanji?As hanuman was celibate > and Lord shiva had a spouse.Another thing that I wanted 2 ask U and > all members over here is that I came across this book in hindi edited > by K N Rao and written by M S Mehta(book is kundali vivechan tatha > phalit siddhant by sagar

publication).On page 166 the author says 7th > L in 9th H or 5th H forms saptani or avkalatra yoga.This is a bad > yoga as per the author.K N rao considers 7th L in 9th H bad for all > lagna's .U hv written in one of the recent threads " The 7th lord Sun > is in 9H and in 11H from AL. I want to pacify the badhak. Unless > badhak is pacified nothing works."I agree for fixed signs 9th H is > badhak hence the troubles indicated .Does your parampara follow the > same rule of defining such a placement as avakalatra yoga?Again > correct me if I m going wrong anywhere!Thanks in advance.regards,M.---> In sohamsa , "Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath@> wrote:> >> > > > > > > > | om gurave namah |> > Dear Mahek> > Nothing happens without Venus...nothing. I don’t

care how much > any other graha may try to get sexy, they are all *frigid* without > Venus. Once venus comes into the picture everything changes and they > the watery element gets going. The *water boy* causes lots of fluids > to move in the body and then life gets going and good health and all > that followed by sex. So it is Venus and none other. The Käraka > cannot be changed.> > > > Some say Mars is husband in female chart while others say Jupiter. > I follow Jupiter as käraka for husband. Mars is käraka for the > *other men*. Yet nobody can do anything unless Venus says go ahead.> > > > Best wishes and warm regards,> > Sanjay Rath> > -------------------------> > Personal: WebPages â— Rath’s Rhapsody> > SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center â— SJCERC â—

JIVA> > Publications: The Jyotish Digest â— Sagittarius Publications> > ---------------------------> --> > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > Behalf Of mahek76> > Friday, July 07, 2006 2:38 PM> > sohamsa > > To sanjay ji and all learned members.Mars--> celibate or carnal?> > > > Dear Sanjay Ji, and all learned members,> > Mars is the planet of celibacy.I also > read somewhere that mars is significator of carnal desires in a > female chart.Correct me if I m wrong.Why this

contracdiction?How can > a planet b brahamchari as well as significator of sexual desires?> What shud we interpret when mars is exalted and happens to b the 7th > lord for Taurus ascendants in terms of brahamcharya as well as carnal > desires (two opposite poles).Laser is a bloodless surgery.Does mars > play role in it?Which planet represents laser beam or minor laser > surgery .Pls guide us.Thanks and regards,M.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Goelji for responding 2 my query.I agree that Jupiter is karak

of husband till children R born ( that's wat sanjayji says).Sanjayji

has beautifully explained the role of venus…I m spell bound with his

teachings!But nobody is really responding 2 my exact query.May be

they hv not understood my question.I wud again request all members 2

clear my doubts and throw light on this topic.Is the placement of 7th

lord either in 5th H or 9th H bad for a woman (as per the house

placement)?Does any classical astrological text mention this?Also an

exalted 7th Lord mars alone in 9th H and unaspected by any planet

wud indicate a strong brahamcharya or will it denote strong physical

desires in stri jatak?will it give one a long period of celibacy or

much inclination towards physical pleasures?Leave aside venus and

Jupiter just focus on mars.I follow sanjay ji's teachings blindly so

once I get my answer fm his teachings then only will I get

satisfied.All students of sanjayji pls help!all opinions R

welcome.thanks and regards,M.

sohamsa , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:

>

> Dear Mahek,

> As Mr.RATH has pointed out that ,

> Venus gives urge for sex

> Jupiter is husband in the case of female

> Mars is the vital fluid in female which helps in pregnancy and

also represent

> male member with whom sex is performed on the instigation of Venus

(This male may be husband).

> In case of male ,Venus represent sex ,wife and other sex partner.

> Mars provides vital force for any activity being natural karka

of 3rd house.

> Every one requires lot of will and power to practice celibacy as

it is like concurring over natual instincts.Natually Mars karka of

6th house will help(Ketu is co-karka of 6th house)

> G.K.GOEL

>

> mahek76 <mahek76 wrote:

> Respected sanjayji,pvr sir and all guru's as well as

members of this

> list,

> Happy Guru pournima 2 all!Thanks for

> providing us light via jyotish .Does this yoga called saptani or

> avkalatra yoga (7th Lord in 9th House in a woman's chart)mentioned

> anywhere in BPHS by Maharishi parashara or does any other classical

> astrological text support this?Please throw light on this.Kindly

help!

> Thanks & Regards,M.

> sohamsa , " mahek76 " <mahek76@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected sanjay ji,Thanks a lot!I still hv doubts and

> > confusions.Mangala word comes fm mangalasutra.It also means

> > auspiciousness and it too plays a role in menstrual cycle so I

guess

> > (with my limited knowledge) mars MUST b a important planet in a

> > woman's chart irrespective of it being 7th L or not.But look at

> mars

> > in this context--a brahamchari planet being the lord of 7th H and

> > exalted and sitting alone in 9th H unaspected by any other

> planet.How

> > wud U fit this concept of celibacy Vs erotic pleasures of mars in

> > this context?A strong mars means more or longer period of

> > brahamcharya and weak mars means the opposite????For such a mars

> wud

> > U advice praying 2 Lord shiva or hanumanji?As hanuman was

celibate

> > and Lord shiva had a spouse.Another thing that I wanted 2 ask U

and

> > all members over here is that I came across this book in hindi

> edited

> > by K N Rao and written by M S Mehta(book is kundali vivechan

tatha

> > phalit siddhant by sagar publication).On page 166 the author says

> 7th

> > L in 9th H or 5th H forms saptani or avkalatra yoga.This is a bad

> > yoga as per the author.K N rao considers 7th L in 9th H bad for

all

> > lagna's .U hv written in one of the recent threads " The 7th lord

> Sun

> > is in 9H and in 11H from AL. I want to pacify the badhak. Unless

> > badhak is pacified nothing works. " I agree for fixed signs 9th H

is

> > badhak hence the troubles indicated .Does your parampara follow

the

> > same rule of defining such a placement as avakalatra yoga?Again

> > correct me if I m going wrong anywhere!Thanks in

advance.regards,M.-

> --

> > In sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > | om gurave namah |

> > > Dear Mahek

> > > Nothing happens without Venus...nothing. I don’t care how

much

> > any other graha may try to get sexy, they are all *frigid*

without

> > Venus. Once venus comes into the picture everything changes and

> they

> > the watery element gets going. The *water boy* causes lots of

> fluids

> > to move in the body and then life gets going and good health and

> all

> > that followed by sex. So it is Venus and none other. The Käraka

> > cannot be changed.

> > >

> > > Some say Mars is husband in female chart while others say

> Jupiter.

> > I follow Jupiter as käraka for husband. Mars is käraka for the

> > *other men*. Yet nobody can do anything unless Venus says go

ahead.

> > >

> > > Best wishes and warm regards,

> > > Sanjay Rath

> > > -------------------------

> > > Personal: WebPages ◠Rath’s Rhapsody

> > > SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center â— SJCERC â— JIVA

> > > Publications: The Jyotish Digest â— Sagittarius Publications

> > > -------------------------

> --

> > --

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On

> > Behalf Of mahek76

> > > Friday, July 07, 2006 2:38 PM

> > > sohamsa

> > > To sanjay ji and all learned members.Mars--

> > celibate or carnal?

> > >

> > > Dear Sanjay Ji, and all learned members,

> > > Mars is the planet of celibacy.I also

> > read somewhere that mars is significator of carnal desires in a

> > female chart.Correct me if I m wrong.Why this contracdiction?How

> can

> > a planet b brahamchari as well as significator of sexual desires?

> > What shud we interpret when mars is exalted and happens to b the

> 7th

> > lord for Taurus ascendants in terms of brahamcharya as well as

> carnal

> > desires (two opposite poles).Laser is a bloodless surgery.Does

mars

> > play role in it?Which planet represents laser beam or minor laser

> > surgery .Pls guide us.Thanks and regards,M.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

vyam vyasadevaya namah

Dear Mahek

 

brhat parasara hora sastra :

 

7L in fifth:

mani - honoursarvagunanvitah - virtoussarvada - delightedsarvadhandadhipah - all kinds of wealth

 

7L in ninth:nanastribhih samagamah - union with womenjayahritamana - welldisposed to wifebahvarambhakaro - initiate many events

its kona so in both cases the native wants to get married (opposite to sixth lord). fifth is ruling also the bhava and jala tattwa so the strong emotion is involved in marriage which is very good (best if also tithi lord has yuti of brgu or guru). ninth rules the fortune so like shukra in ninth it can indicate fortune after marriage, this two kind of situation is very conductive and prosperous (problems can arise if this graha is malefic then through bad planning (fifth) or fortune (ninth) you can have bad experience in relationship). Saravali and other classics are very sensitive in ninth bhava matters because without fortune nothing will work.

 

in fifth the saptamesh indicate that you have relations on your citta, in ninth it indicate that the fortune is connected to marriage matters a lot so it can marry or build the fortune.

 

the situation with mangal is not good as it can indicate many strifes and even litigation in life. but see the other drstis or yuti which can alter everything in chart. final determinator is upapada!

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

 

 

-

mahek76

sohamsa

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:29 AM

Re: saptani or avakalatra yoga--Tosanjay ji and all learned members.pls clarify

 

 

Thanks Goelji for responding 2 my query.I agree that Jupiter is karak of husband till children R born ( that's wat sanjayji says).Sanjayji has beautifully explained the role of venus…I m spell bound with his teachings!But nobody is really responding 2 my exact query.May be they hv not understood my question.I wud again request all members 2 clear my doubts and throw light on this topic.Is the placement of 7th lord either in 5th H or 9th H bad for a woman (as per the house placement)?Does any classical astrological text mention this?Also an exalted 7th Lord mars alone in 9th H and unaspected by any planet wud indicate a strong brahamcharya or will it denote strong physical desires in stri jatak?will it give one a long period of celibacy or much inclination towards physical pleasures?Leave aside venus and Jupiter just focus on mars.I follow sanjay ji's teachings blindly so once I get my answer fm his teachings then only will I get satisfied.All students of sanjayji pls help!all opinions R welcome.thanks and regards,M.sohamsa , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:>> Dear Mahek,> As Mr.RATH has pointed out that ,> Venus gives urge for sex> Jupiter is husband in the case of female> Mars is the vital fluid in female which helps in pregnancy and also represent > male member with whom sex is performed on the instigation of Venus(This male may be husband).> In case of male ,Venus represent sex ,wife and other sex partner.> Mars provides vital force for any activity being natural karka of 3rd house.> Every one requires lot of will and power to practice celibacy as it is like concurring over natual instincts.Natually Mars karka of 6th house will help(Ketu is co-karka of 6th house)> G.K.GOEL> > mahek76 <mahek76 wrote:> Respected sanjayji,pvr sir and all guru's as well as members of this > list,> Happy Guru pournima 2 all!Thanks for > providing us light via jyotish .Does this yoga called saptani or > avkalatra yoga (7th Lord in 9th House in a woman's chart)mentioned > anywhere in BPHS by Maharishi parashara or does any other classical > astrological text support this?Please throw light on this.Kindly help!> Thanks & Regards,M.> sohamsa , "mahek76" <mahek76@> wrote:> >> > Respected sanjay ji,Thanks a lot!I still hv doubts and > > confusions.Mangala word comes fm mangalasutra.It also means > > auspiciousness and it too plays a role in menstrual cycle so I guess> > (with my limited knowledge) mars MUST b a important planet in a > > woman's chart irrespective of it being 7th L or not.But look at > mars > > in this context--a brahamchari planet being the lord of 7th H and > > exalted and sitting alone in 9th H unaspected by any other > planet.How > > wud U fit this concept of celibacy Vs erotic pleasures of mars in > > this context?A strong mars means more or longer period of > > brahamcharya and weak mars means the opposite????For such a mars > wud > > U advice praying 2 Lord shiva or hanumanji?As hanuman was celibate > > and Lord shiva had a spouse.Another thing that I wanted 2 ask U and > > all members over here is that I came across this book in hindi > edited > > by K N Rao and written by M S Mehta(book is kundali vivechan tatha > > phalit siddhant by sagar publication).On page 166 the author says > 7th > > L in 9th H or 5th H forms saptani or avkalatra yoga.This is a bad > > yoga as per the author.K N rao considers 7th L in 9th H bad for all > > lagna's .U hv written in one of the recent threads " The 7th lord > Sun > > is in 9H and in 11H from AL. I want to pacify the badhak. Unless > > badhak is pacified nothing works."I agree for fixed signs 9th H is > > badhak hence the troubles indicated .Does your parampara follow the > > same rule of defining such a placement as avakalatra yoga?Again > > correct me if I m going wrong anywhere!Thanks in advance.regards,M.-> --> > In sohamsa , "Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > | om gurave namah |> > > Dear Mahek> > > Nothing happens without Venus...nothing. I don’t care how much > > any other graha may try to get sexy, they are all *frigid* without > > Venus. Once venus comes into the picture everything changes and > they > > the watery element gets going. The *water boy* causes lots of > fluids > > to move in the body and then life gets going and good health and > all > > that followed by sex. So it is Venus and none other. The Käraka > > cannot be changed.> > > > > > Some say Mars is husband in female chart while others say > Jupiter. > > I follow Jupiter as käraka for husband. Mars is käraka for the > > *other men*. Yet nobody can do anything unless Venus says go ahead.> > > > > > Best wishes and warm regards,> > > Sanjay Rath> > > -------------------------> > > Personal: WebPages â— Rath’s Rhapsody> > > SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center â— SJCERC â— JIVA> > > Publications: The Jyotish Digest â— Sagittarius Publications> > > -------------------------> --> > --> > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > Behalf Of mahek76> > > Friday, July 07, 2006 2:38 PM> > > sohamsa > > > To sanjay ji and all learned members.Mars--> > celibate or carnal?> > > > > > Dear Sanjay Ji, and all learned members,> > > Mars is the planet of celibacy.I also > > read somewhere that mars is significator of carnal desires in a > > female chart.Correct me if I m wrong.Why this contracdiction?How > can > > a planet b brahamchari as well as significator of sexual desires?> > What shud we interpret when mars is exalted and happens to b the > 7th > > lord for Taurus ascendants in terms of brahamcharya as well as > carnal > > desires (two opposite poles).Laser is a bloodless surgery.Does mars > > play role in it?Which planet represents laser beam or minor laser > > surgery .Pls guide us.Thanks and regards,M.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear rafal ji and all learned members ,

I thank U from the bottom of my heart 4 a prompt

response. As per Sanjay ji's audios it has 2 shiva or rudra worship

for mars in 9th H . 9th H is badhak house for taurus lagna.For a stri

jatak(female native)the placement of mars as 7th lord in 9th H and

rashi drishti of rahu on it and rahu in scorpio(in 7th house) with

rashi drishti of mars and graha drishti of combust Jupiter on it wat

remedy wud U suggest 2 avoid litigation?Can U PLEASE give any

remedy/mantra to avoid litigations as a result of this placement of

mars in 9th and rashi drishti of rahu on it?As per sanjay ji's four

rules of sambandha Rahu and mars hv sambandha(relationship) as both

aspect each other by rashi drishti ,shud skanda mantra or chandi

mantra help mitigate the evil?I m confused.Kindly suggest

remedy/mantra for such a case.PLS HELP!Thanks a lot.With warm

regards,M.

sohamsa , " Rafal Gendarz " <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Mahek

>

> brhat parasara hora sastra :

>

> 7L in fifth:

>

> mani - honour

> sarvagunanvitah - virtous

> sarvada - delighted

> sarvadhandadhipah - all kinds of wealth

>

> 7L in ninth:

> nanastribhih samagamah - union with women

> jayahritamana - welldisposed to wife

> bahvarambhakaro - initiate many events

>

> its kona so in both cases the native wants to get married (opposite

to sixth lord). fifth is ruling also the bhava and jala tattwa so the

strong emotion is involved in marriage which is very good (best if

also tithi lord has yuti of brgu or guru). ninth rules the fortune so

like shukra in ninth it can indicate fortune after marriage, this two

kind of situation is very conductive and prosperous (problems can

arise if this graha is malefic then through bad planning (fifth) or

fortune (ninth) you can have bad experience in relationship).

Saravali and other classics are very sensitive in ninth bhava matters

because without fortune nothing will work.

>

> in fifth the saptamesh indicate that you have relations on your

citta, in ninth it indicate that the fortune is connected to marriage

matters a lot so it can marry or build the fortune.

>

> the situation with mangal is not good as it can indicate many

strifes and even litigation in life. but see the other drstis or yuti

which can alter everything in chart. final determinator is upapada!

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

>

> -

> mahek76

> sohamsa

> Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:29 AM

> Re: saptani or avakalatra yoga--Tosanjay ji

and all learned members.pls clarify

>

>

> Thanks Goelji for responding 2 my query.I agree that Jupiter is

karak

> of husband till children R born ( that's wat sanjayji

says).Sanjayji

> has beautifully explained the role of venus.I m spell bound with

his

> teachings!But nobody is really responding 2 my exact query.May be

> they hv not understood my question.I wud again request all

members 2

> clear my doubts and throw light on this topic.Is the placement of

7th

> lord either in 5th H or 9th H bad for a woman (as per the house

> placement)?Does any classical astrological text mention this?Also

an

> exalted 7th Lord mars alone in 9th H and unaspected by any planet

> wud indicate a strong brahamcharya or will it denote strong

physical

> desires in stri jatak?will it give one a long period of celibacy

or

> much inclination towards physical pleasures?Leave aside venus and

> Jupiter just focus on mars.I follow sanjay ji's teachings blindly

so

> once I get my answer fm his teachings then only will I get

> satisfied.All students of sanjayji pls help!all opinions R

> welcome.thanks and regards,M.

> sohamsa , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mahek,

> > As Mr.RATH has pointed out that ,

> > Venus gives urge for sex

> > Jupiter is husband in the case of female

> > Mars is the vital fluid in female which helps in pregnancy and

> also represent

> > male member with whom sex is performed on the instigation of

Venus

> (This male may be husband).

> > In case of male ,Venus represent sex ,wife and other sex

partner.

> > Mars provides vital force for any activity being natural karka

> of 3rd house.

> > Every one requires lot of will and power to practice celibacy

as

> it is like concurring over natual instincts.Natually Mars karka

of

> 6th house will help(Ketu is co-karka of 6th house)

> > G.K.GOEL

> >

> > mahek76 <mahek76@> wrote:

> > Respected sanjayji,pvr sir and all guru's as well as

> members of this

> > list,

> > Happy Guru pournima 2 all!Thanks for

> > providing us light via jyotish .Does this yoga called saptani

or

> > avkalatra yoga (7th Lord in 9th House in a woman's chart)

mentioned

> > anywhere in BPHS by Maharishi parashara or does any other

classical

> > astrological text support this?Please throw light on

this.Kindly

> help!

> > Thanks & Regards,M.

> > sohamsa , " mahek76 " <mahek76@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected sanjay ji,Thanks a lot!I still hv doubts and

> > > confusions.Mangala word comes fm mangalasutra.It also means

> > > auspiciousness and it too plays a role in menstrual cycle so

I

> guess

> > > (with my limited knowledge) mars MUST b a important planet in

a

> > > woman's chart irrespective of it being 7th L or not.But look

at

> > mars

> > > in this context--a brahamchari planet being the lord of 7th H

and

> > > exalted and sitting alone in 9th H unaspected by any other

> > planet.How

> > > wud U fit this concept of celibacy Vs erotic pleasures of

mars in

> > > this context?A strong mars means more or longer period of

> > > brahamcharya and weak mars means the opposite????For such a

mars

> > wud

> > > U advice praying 2 Lord shiva or hanumanji?As hanuman was

> celibate

> > > and Lord shiva had a spouse.Another thing that I wanted 2 ask

U

> and

> > > all members over here is that I came across this book in

hindi

> > edited

> > > by K N Rao and written by M S Mehta(book is kundali vivechan

> tatha

> > > phalit siddhant by sagar publication).On page 166 the author

says

> > 7th

> > > L in 9th H or 5th H forms saptani or avkalatra yoga.This is a

bad

> > > yoga as per the author.K N rao considers 7th L in 9th H bad

for

> all

> > > lagna's .U hv written in one of the recent threads " The 7th

lord

> > Sun

> > > is in 9H and in 11H from AL. I want to pacify the badhak.

Unless

> > > badhak is pacified nothing works. " I agree for fixed signs 9th

H

> is

> > > badhak hence the troubles indicated .Does your parampara

follow

> the

> > > same rule of defining such a placement as avakalatra yoga?

Again

> > > correct me if I m going wrong anywhere!Thanks in

> advance.regards,M.-

> > --

> > > In sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > | om gurave namah |

> > > > Dear Mahek

> > > > Nothing happens without Venus...nothing. I donâ?Tt care how

> much

> > > any other graha may try to get sexy, they are all *frigid*

> without

> > > Venus. Once venus comes into the picture everything changes

and

> > they

> > > the watery element gets going. The *water boy* causes lots of

> > fluids

> > > to move in the body and then life gets going and good health

and

> > all

> > > that followed by sex. So it is Venus and none other. The

Käraka

> > > cannot be changed.

> > > >

> > > > Some say Mars is husband in female chart while others say

> > Jupiter.

> > > I follow Jupiter as käraka for husband. Mars is käraka for

the

> > > *other men*. Yet nobody can do anything unless Venus says go

> ahead.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes and warm regards,

> > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > -------------------------

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> > > > Publications: The Jyotish Digest â- Sagittarius

Publications

> > > > -------------------------

> > --

> > > --

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa

[sohamsa ]

> On

> > > Behalf Of mahek76

> > > > Friday, July 07, 2006 2:38 PM

> > > > sohamsa

> > > > To sanjay ji and all learned

members.Mars--

> > > celibate or carnal?

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sanjay Ji, and all learned members,

> > > > Mars is the planet of celibacy.I also

> > > read somewhere that mars is significator of carnal desires in

a

> > > female chart.Correct me if I m wrong.Why this contracdiction?

How

> > can

> > > a planet b brahamchari as well as significator of sexual

desires?

> > > What shud we interpret when mars is exalted and happens to b

the

> > 7th

> > > lord for Taurus ascendants in terms of brahamcharya as well

as

> > carnal

> > > desires (two opposite poles).Laser is a bloodless

surgery.Does

> mars

> > > play role in it?Which planet represents laser beam or minor

laser

> > > surgery .Pls guide us.Thanks and regards,M.

> > > >

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