Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Jaya JagannathaDear Neeraj,NamasteBasics: Diseases are seen in the 6th House. For Taurus lagna, the 6th house is Libra. Venus presides over the Jala tattva and is friends with Mercury that presides over the Earth tattva.Likewise, Pearl which is ruled by Moon, presides over Jala tattva. Jala tattva is friends with Earth tattva, is neutral with Vayu and enemies with Teja/Fire. The suggestion in VRA is based on the planetary friendship table. Use this especially for planets in transits combined with the presiding dasa.Try not to mix the 2love,SweeOn 13 Jul,06, at 10:48 AM, Neeraj Gupta wrote:Hi, I was reading Dr. Neeraj's Lalwani book "Gem Therapy in Vedic Astrology" and it was stated that inmical gem to Emerald (Mercury) is none. Whereas, I have read elsewhere that Pearl and Red Coral should not be worn with Emerald. Also in VRA, it is stated that gemstones of mutually inmical planets should not be worn simultaneously. Now let us consider the following: Mercury is friend of "Moon" Moon is enemy of "Mercury" Mercury is enemy of "Mars" Mars is neutral to "Mercury" From the above can we say that "mars and mercury" or "mercury and moon" are not mutually inmical as mercury is friend of "moon" and mars is neutral to "mercury". So can emerald be used with red coral or pearl (Dr. Neeraj Lalwani has suggested it for some diseases). So, can we advise both (pearl + emerald) or (redcoral + emerald) to the native if they are not inmical to lord of lagna. Or shall we look for combined relationships between mercury, mars and moon in chart for this factor. I request gurus and other senior members to kindly clarify this. Regards, Neeraj How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Sweeji, Namaskar.Thanks for the reply. Sorry about the name confusion. I liked the nic Azaad for a long time.Azaad as in free, but then I have started to get out of martian ( mars in aries in 11th) mode and just try to be what I am supposed to be in a natural way ( sat chit ananda, shivoaham). I guess I am moving towards the eternal constant and hence this nic now - For whatever reasons,maybe saturn on lagna or something else, I am also a rather private person and prefer to use nics rather than my real name. As far a religion goes, I am a Hindu by birth and an advaitin by choice. Actually the word freedom/azaad appears a lot in Swami Vivekananda's writings on that subject. (I hear that d9 saturn in ninth hs people have a hard time following any organized religion? That they can only accept the real truth? Maybe that's a pun for atheism in Jyotish ). But in any case sounds almost like advaita to me) About the post there, I should apologize, I had meant stinger at the end of ketu dasha not venus. Regarding your message I got a bit confused. Just to clarify " It also means that the house of finding bliss in Allah/Shiva is always under > contention, perhaps squashing your bliss within. " I suppose you are refering to the 8th house here ( in D9)? Yes the blisswithin is a goal, more like a process and of course it is usually absent in my case ) Only meditation gives me some relief. Also couldn't understand what you suggested to do on Thursday? Did it have something to do with Jupiter as it relates to children. At present I am not even trying anything related with kids, if that was the suggestion. Am single and just focusing on education and a career ( both of which are in a lamentable state). I suppose you meant that Sun is malefic for D9 taurus ascendants. Couldn't understand that last sentence about saturn that mentioned suffering as relates to rasi/d9 synastry. Pl. forgive my ignorance. Any explanations would be very welcome Best Regards Shiva sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Azaad or Shiva; which ever one you are :-) > Saalam and Namaste > > Sorry, it looks like I¹ve missed this mail from you. Unless Jupiter aspects > the 5th lord in the 6th with Venus in randhra in navamsa is not good where > children are concerned. > It also means that the house of finding bliss in Allah/Shiva is always under > contention, perhaps squashing your bliss within. If this is what you are > hoping for, do begin with readings on Thursday evening big night for > Moslems angd attend your Friday prayers (Venus). > Father is seen in a night birth where Venus is concerned and not the Sun. In > your case, Sun acts as a functional malefic for you - the Moon takes > precedence in as far as peace of mind is concerned. If born at night during > the dark half, Venus in the 6th cannot always come to the rescue where your > health is concerned. More than not, you would be constantly fraught with > belly upsets besides other indications of Venus. > To Shiva - Your Saturn is good in prolonging your sufferings rasi/navamsa > synastry. > > Love, > > Swee > sweechan > > > On 7/18/06 8:23 AM, " theblisswithin " <azaad wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sweeji, > > Thanks for this interesting info. Sorry for butting in here. I just > > have some basic question as relates to this discussion. > > What does Venus in 6th mean ( in Scorpio). What does it do > > psychologically,mentally or physically. > > I have that in my rasi. > > In my D9, taurus rises and venus is in 8th. > > I have heard the word diseases /enemies associated with 6th house. > > Some say Venus there actually protects from the enemies. Is it some > > kind of karmic challenge with women in general.My Venus dasa saw me > > leaving my Ph.D halfway. Some had predicted there will be > > some 'dessert' at the tail, but that didn't happen. You mention the > > relation to birth time. Since mine was night, what might venus mean > > for me. > > > > Thanks > > Azaad > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> , Swee Chan > > <sweechan@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Jaya Jagannatha > >> > > >> > Dear Neeraj, > >> > Namaste > >> > > >> > Mantras, like gemstones, work on the subtler levels in healing as > > we > >> > all know that a disease is ALWAYS due to our past karmic resonance. > >> > > >> > Let me try and elaborate with Taurus lagna as the example: > >> > > >> > The 6th lord is Jala tattva. Jala tattva and Prithvi tattva are > >> > friends. Prithvi tattva rules over the moolatrikona lord of my 5th > >> > house (note that it is MOOLATRIKONA). > >> > Hence, in order that I can help to strengthen my 6th house, wear > > an > >> > emerald as it is Prithvi tattva lord and is functionally, a benefic. > >> > There are some more hints given in Jataka Parijata wrt this > > (archived > >> > in VA-list, I think). I do not have the books with me as I am > > traveling, > >> > but +/- 2nd chapter where it states that Mercury has control over > > the > >> > other planets besides Rahu. On the subtle level, we know that it > > was > >> > because of Vishnu's > >> > grace that the egoistic rakshasha was allowed a choice of taking > >> > birth on earth three times and return to vaikuntha etc. > >> > > >> > Do not worry if one falls sick immediately upon wearing a gemstone > >> > which is meant to balance out the tattva of the negative 6th. This > > is > >> > because often times it is the body's natural way of healing (with > > the > >> > help > >> > of the gemstone) that gives the natural process of cleansing - like > > a > >> > scab feels itchy as the skin begins to heal/knit back. But one > > should > >> > not scratch off the scab as it is the protective cover - like that, > >> > the gemstone can work as a protective cover for the body. > >> > However, do not forget to offer the mantra that pertains to the > >> > functional benefic planet which is the stress point here. > >> > > >> > We also do read from classics that a natural benefic, if placed in > >> > the 6th, will go through a lot of suffering during its period - > > esp > >> > during pratyantar dasa or in transit. In this case, would you > > still > >> > recommend the gemstone > >> > of the natural benefic placed in the 6th? I would, but only if it > > is > >> > a functional benefic in that chart. If another natural benefic > >> > aspects the functional benefic which quells the imbalance of the > >> > tattva of the 6th, you will > >> > notice that healing is much faster. The 6th, besides denoting > >> > disease, also denotes the house of service. Those who are > > suffering > >> > from loss of work etc., can help themselves with this method of > >> > prescribing. > >> > Try and re-read the entire article in the Jyotish Digest. The > >> > featured article is not enough as the other half that explains it, > > is > >> > in the JD. > >> > > > In the same vein, if it > >> > is a day birth, then take > >> > Venus to denote the mother.....I do not think I need to elaborate > >> > further with delineations, agree? > >> > > >> > love, > >> > Swee > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 > > > > Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Jaya Jagannatha > >> > >> Dear Azaad or Shiva; which ever one you are :-) Namaskar Sweeji, Azaad was my past incarnation. This one I prefer the nic Shiva ))I hope this message goes through. I had written 3 earlier which never saw the light of the day. If not I might give up writing here on this forum. A simple clarfication: did you mean 8th as the house of bliss. Could you also expand on " Your Saturn is good in prolonging your sufferings rasi/navamsa > >> synastry. " Thanks Shiva > >> Saalam and Namaste > >> > >> Sorry, it looks like I¹ve missed this mail from you. Unless Jupiter aspects > >> the 5th lord in the 6th with Venus in randhra in navamsa is not good where > >> children are concerned. > >> It also means that the house of finding bliss in Allah/Shiva is always under > >> contention, perhaps squashing your bliss within. If this is what you are > >> hoping for, do begin with readings on Thursday evening big night for > >> Moslems and attend your Friday prayers (Venus). > >> Father is seen in a night birth where Venus is concerned and not the Sun. In > >> your case, Sun acts as a functional malefic for you - the Moon takes > >> precedence in as far as peace of mind is concerned. If born at night during > >> the dark half, Venus in the 6th cannot always come to the rescue where your > >> health is concerned. More than not, you would be constantly fraught with > >> belly upsets besides other indications of Venus. > >> To Shiva - Your Saturn is good in prolonging your sufferings rasi/navamsa > >> synastry. > >> > >> Love, > >> > >> Swee > >> sweechan > >> > >> > >> On 7/18/06 8:23 AM, " theblisswithin " <azaad wrote: > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear Sweeji, > >>> Thanks for this interesting info. Sorry for butting in here. I just > >>> have some basic question as relates to this discussion. > >>> What does Venus in 6th mean ( in Scorpio). What does it do > >>> psychologically,mentally or physically. > >>> I have that in my rasi. > >>> In my D9, taurus rises and venus is in 8th. > >>> I have heard the word diseases /enemies associated with 6th house. > >>> Some say Venus there actually protects from the enemies. Is it some > >>> kind of karmic challenge with women in general.My Venus dasa saw me > >>> leaving my Ph.D halfway. Some had predicted there will be > >>> some 'dessert' at the tail, but that didn't happen. You mention the > >>> relation to birth time. Since mine was night, what might venus mean > >>> for me. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> Azaad > >>> > >>> sohamsa <sohamsa%40> , Swee > >>> Chan <sweechan@> wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> > Jaya Jagannatha > >>>> > > >>>> > Dear Neeraj, > >>>> > Namaste > >>>> > > >>>> > Mantras, like gemstones, work on the subtler levels in healing as > >>> we > >>>> > all know that a disease is ALWAYS due to our past karmic resonance. > >>>> > > >>>> > Let me try and elaborate with Taurus lagna as the example: > >>>> > > >>>> > The 6th lord is Jala tattva. Jala tattva and Prithvi tattva are > >>>> > friends. Prithvi tattva rules over the moolatrikona lord of my 5th > >>>> > house (note that it is MOOLATRIKONA). > >>>> > Hence, in order that I can help to strengthen my 6th house, wear > >>> an > >>>> > emerald as it is Prithvi tattva lord and is functionally, a benefic. > >>>> > There are some more hints given in Jataka Parijata wrt this > >>> (archived > >>>> > in VA-list, I think). I do not have the books with me as I am > >>> traveling, > >>>> > but +/- 2nd chapter where it states that Mercury has control over > >>> the > >>>> > other planets besides Rahu. On the subtle level, we know that it > >>> was > >>>> > because of Vishnu's > >>>> > grace that the egoistic rakshasha was allowed a choice of taking > >>>> > birth on earth three times and return to vaikuntha etc. > >>>> > > >>>> > Do not worry if one falls sick immediately upon wearing a gemstone > >>>> > which is meant to balance out the tattva of the negative 6th. This > >>> is > >>>> > because often times it is the body's natural way of healing (with > >>> the > >>>> > help > >>>> > of the gemstone) that gives the natural process of cleansing - like > >>> a > >>>> > scab feels itchy as the skin begins to heal/knit back. But one > >>> should > >>>> > not scratch off the scab as it is the protective cover - like that, > >>>> > the gemstone can work as a protective cover for the body. > >>>> > However, do not forget to offer the mantra that pertains to the > >>>> > functional benefic planet which is the stress point here. > >>>> > > >>>> > We also do read from classics that a natural benefic, if placed in > >>>> > the 6th, will go through a lot of suffering during its period - > >>> esp > >>>> > during pratyantar dasa or in transit. In this case, would you > >>> still > >>>> > recommend the gemstone > >>>> > of the natural benefic placed in the 6th? I would, but only if it > >>> is > >>>> > a functional benefic in that chart. If another natural benefic > >>>> > aspects the functional benefic which quells the imbalance of the > >>>> > tattva of the 6th, you will > >>>> > notice that healing is much faster. The 6th, besides denoting > >>>> > disease, also denotes the house of service. Those who are > >>> suffering > >>>> > from loss of work etc., can help themselves with this method of > >>>> > prescribing. > >>>> > Try and re-read the entire article in the Jyotish Digest. The > >>>> > featured article is not enough as the other half that explains it, > >>> is > >>>> > in the JD. > >>>> > > >>> In the same vein, if it > >>>> > is a day birth, then take > >>>> > Venus to denote the mother.....I do not think I need to elaborate > >>>> > further with delineations, agree? > >>>> > > >>>> > love, > >>>> > Swee > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > <http://us.rd./mail/in/yanswers/*http://in.answers./> > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it > > NOW > > <http://us.rd./mail/in/messengertagline/*http://in.messenger..co > > m> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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