Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Dear SanjayP, Thank you for the links. Kavacha means "protective shield". Kavachas of planets are good for removing physical ailments. The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house they bought. We had all the time in the world and I did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their kavachas in addition to mantras. The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus was a functional malefic for the people I was doing the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord and occupies the 6th house of sickness. In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give sickness and health problems. And, there I was, sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer. Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a couple of times and figures out the tune and plays it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of having no formal training in any kind of music). Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to push his agenda! Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- > > Regarding prayers, kavachas of various deities and planets are the> > best protection from physical ailments.> > A good reference I would suggest to Jyotishas is to have compilation> "Navagraha Kosha" for this,> > Navagraha Kosa (In 2 Volumes) S.K. Ramachandra> Rao<http://www.bagchee.com/qsearch.aspx?page=0 & SerFld=Author & qsearch=true & page=0 & SerTxt=S.K.%20Ramachandra%20Rao>> > Warm Regards> Sanjay P> > Rao, S.K. Ramachandra. Navagraha-Kosha (2 vols.), Bangalore: Kalpatharu> Research Academy, 1995.> > http://www.bagchee.com/BookDisplay.aspx?Bkid=B32251 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ Respected PVR Ji, Namaste. I have some queries regarding this. 1. When Venus is malefic for these persons for whom you are reciting venus kavacham, and reciting it will give protection to these people, then why Venus itself is trying to create the hinderance. As we are reciting the kavacham for venus only (trying to appease diety), so shall the diety create hinderance in her own prayer. 2. You mentioned that the girl who disturbed the pooja has exalted venus and it is aspecting the lagna too. So does it indicate that we should not try to appease the exalted planets by performing prayers for them. Had the girl not been there (suppose), the pooja would have been performed in a proper manner for other persons whose venus is malefic. Can it be the case, that the girl is disturbing the pooja, as venus is already exalted (powerful) and the venus god does not want the propitiation to be done. I just want to know it for the sake of knowledge and want to clarify my understanding in this regard. Please forgive me, if I have asked something stupid. Regards, Neeraj --- " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > Dear SanjayP, > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means " protective > shield " . Kavachas of planets are good for removing > physical ailments. > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I > was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some > relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house > they bought. We had all the time in the world and I > did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When > invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their > kavachas in addition to mantras. > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started > reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing > tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We > had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing > was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I > had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra > kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus > was a functional malefic for the people I was doing > the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is > the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord > Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord > and occupies the 6th house of sickness. > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give > sickness and health problems. And, there I was, > sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good > health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the > request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer. > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed > the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has > arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects > her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is > exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The > girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She > is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she > listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a > couple of times and figures out the tune and plays > it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of > having no formal training in any kind of music). > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and > was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to > push his agenda! > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > Narasimha > ------------------------------- > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > http://www.SriJagannath.org > ------------------------------- > > > > Regarding prayers, kavachas of various deities > and planets are the > > > best protection from physical ailments. > > > > A good reference I would suggest to Jyotishas is > to have compilation > > " Navagraha Kosha " for this, > > > > Navagraha Kosa (In 2 Volumes) S.K. > Ramachandra > > > Rao<http://www.bagchee.com/qsearch.aspx?page=0 & SerFld=Author & qsearch=true & page=0\ & SerTxt=S.K.%20Ramachandra%20Rao> > > > > Warm Regards > > Sanjay P > > > > Rao, S.K. Ramachandra. Navagraha-Kosha (2 vols.), > Bangalore: Kalpatharu > > Research Academy, 1995. > > > > > http://www.bagchee.com/BookDisplay.aspx?Bkid=B32251 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 * Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah.* Dear sir, Thanks for sharing wonderful episode,illustrating time and space equation works through worship of planets. Such happening reinforce belief on shahtras. Hari OM Tatsat ---------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Om Gurave Namah Namaste Neeraj ji, In my view grahas are agents who are entrusted with the task of overseeing the fructification of karma, and they would like to do just that. They may not appreciate appeasements much, and may look upon them as deterrants to the performance of their duty, unless otherwise instructed by God/adhidevata/pratyadhi devata. Though my experience is nothing compared to that of Narasimha garu, I would like to relate a similar incident supporting this. There's this nice sweet 21 yr old boy with severe health afflictions that need repeated surgical intervention. I was told that he underwent around 7-8 operations to deal with the problem, and the most critical surgery was scheduled for October-November 2005. Otherwise also his health remained frail overall and his studies continued to flounder. When his distraught mother approached me, I found that the planets were indeed adversely placed and there was KSY in the chart. The dasa running and the transits also looked worrisome, so among other things, I also advised them to get Rudrabhishekam and Rahu-Ketu pooja (at Sri Kalahasti) performed on the boy's birthday. The boy's birthday fell on Kaarthika somavaaram, so the rudrabhishekam was scheduled to be performed at 2am at the local Kapilateertham temple. The boy and his mother reached the temple on a bike and were cruising at top speed near the entrance to the temple parking lot, when they discovered that a big rope (snake?) was tied across the path. It was too late to stop the bike and both of them crashed into the rope. Normally, the bike and riders would have hit the ground, perhaps leading to serious injuries, but luckily the massive rope broke at the impact of the bike, hitting both on the face and causing minor bruises. They were otherwise unharmed...but definitely feeling upset. After this pooja they had hired a car to go to Sri Kalahasti. When the car got on to the main road, rather slowly, I was told, another motorbike with two riders (Rahu-Ketu?) on it came and crashed into the car. Both the riders were thrown onto the road and were bleeding. My friends were naturally extremely agitated. They took the injured bike-riders to the hospital, got them investigated and given medication. After these incidents and time, the boy and his family certainly did not feel like going to Sri Kalahasti and seriously contemplated going back home. But, I guess, the Lord was on their side and wanted them to go, so they went all the way to Sri Kalahasti and performed the Rahu-Ketu pooja, despite all these obstacles. Such was their sincerity and sankalpa balam. By God's grace, the boy is fine now, and the doctors pronounced him absolutely fit and miraculously there is no further need for any surgeries. He also cleared all his papers in Engg. His euphoric parents bought a brand new Alto car with the money they had saved up for his surgery and promised me a treat:--)) Regards, Lakshmi sohamsa , Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote: > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > Respected PVR Ji, > > Namaste. > > I have some queries regarding this. > > 1. When Venus is malefic for these persons for whom > you are reciting venus kavacham, and reciting it will > give protection to these people, then why Venus itself > is trying to create the hinderance. As we are reciting > the kavacham for venus only (trying to appease diety), > so shall the diety create hinderance in her own > prayer. > > 2. You mentioned that the girl who disturbed the pooja > has exalted venus and it is aspecting the lagna too. > So does it indicate that we should not try to appease > the exalted planets by performing prayers for them. > Had the girl not been there (suppose), the pooja would > have been performed in a proper manner for other > persons whose venus is malefic. Can it be the case, > that the girl is disturbing the pooja, as venus is > already exalted (powerful) and the venus god does not > want the propitiation to be done. > > I just want to know it for the sake of knowledge and > want to clarify my understanding in this regard. > Please forgive me, if I have asked something stupid. > > Regards, > > Neeraj > > > > > > --- " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > > Dear SanjayP, > > > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means " protective > > shield " . Kavachas of planets are good for removing > > physical ailments. > > > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I > > was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some > > relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house > > they bought. We had all the time in the world and I > > did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When > > invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their > > kavachas in addition to mantras. > > > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started > > reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing > > tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We > > had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing > > was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I > > had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra > > kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. > > > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus > > was a functional malefic for the people I was doing > > the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is > > the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord > > Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord > > and occupies the 6th house of sickness. > > > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give > > sickness and health problems. And, there I was, > > sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good > > health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the > > request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer. > > > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed > > the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has > > arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects > > her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is > > exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The > > girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She > > is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she > > listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a > > couple of times and figures out the tune and plays > > it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of > > having no formal training in any kind of music). > > > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and > > was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to > > push his agenda! > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------------- > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > > http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > Regarding prayers, kavachas of various deities > > and planets are the > > > > best protection from physical ailments. > > > > > > A good reference I would suggest to Jyotishas is > > to have compilation > > > " Navagraha Kosha " for this, > > > > > > Navagraha Kosa (In 2 Volumes) S.K. > > Ramachandra > > > > > > Rao<http://www.bagchee.com/qsearch.aspx? page=0 & SerFld=Author & qsearch=true & page=0 & SerTxt=S.K.%20Ramachandra% 20Rao> > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > Rao, S.K. Ramachandra. Navagraha-Kosha (2 vols.), > > Bangalore: Kalpatharu > > > Research Academy, 1995. > > > > > > > > http://www.bagchee.com/BookDisplay.aspx?Bkid=B32251 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Dear Neeraj, No need to address me with adjectives like "respected" and suffixes like "ji". I am just Narasimha or PVR. The job of the lagna lord, 9th lord etc is to protect the native. The job of the 6th and 8th lord is to spoil the health of the native. Reading the kavacham of the 6th/8th lord is like approaching the thug who was hired to beat you up and requesting him to come and be your body guard!!! Of course, if you can manage to convince the thug hired to beat you up to be your body guard, you are invincible. Similarly, if you succeed in pleasing the 6th and 8th lords with their kavachas, it is excellent. But it is difficult. In the example, I believe Venus himself caused disturbance in the prayer because he was uncomfortable with the request being made. Don't look at the kavacha as a praise or propitiation of Venus. It is a request to Venus to bestow upon the couple good health. If the girl in the example prays to Venus, I am sure Venus will be very pleased. It is not that he doesn't want her to pray to him. I think he just found a person to act on his behalf when a request he was uncomfortable with was being made. If you read the kavacham of the lagna lord, lagna lord is always pleased quickly and will try to protect you. But whether he succeeds or not depends on his relationships with the troublemaker planets and the mutual strengths and dynamics. On the other hand, if you read the kavacham of the troublemaker planets, you need to persist longer to see any results at all. But, once they are pleased with you, your problems will go away for sure. You have basically convinced the thug hired to beat you up to be your protector! So you will see no results for a while and suddenly excellent results. I hope I haven't confused.. Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~> > Respected PVR Ji,> > Namaste.> > I have some queries regarding this.> > 1. When Venus is malefic for these persons for whom> you are reciting venus kavacham, and reciting it will> give protection to these people, then why Venus itself> is trying to create the hinderance. As we are reciting> the kavacham for venus only (trying to appease diety),> so shall the diety create hinderance in her own> prayer.> > 2. You mentioned that the girl who disturbed the pooja> has exalted venus and it is aspecting the lagna too.> So does it indicate that we should not try to appease> the exalted planets by performing prayers for them.> Had the girl not been there (suppose), the pooja would> have been performed in a proper manner for other> persons whose venus is malefic. Can it be the case,> that the girl is disturbing the pooja, as venus is> already exalted (powerful) and the venus god does not> want the propitiation to be done.> > I just want to know it for the sake of knowledge and> want to clarify my understanding in this regard.> Please forgive me, if I have asked something stupid.> > Regards,> > Neeraj> > > --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote:> > > Dear SanjayP,> > > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means "protective> > shield". Kavachas of planets are good for removing> > physical ailments.> > > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I> > was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some> > relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house> > they bought. We had all the time in the world and I> > did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When> > invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their> > kavachas in addition to mantras.> > > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started> > reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing> > tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We> > had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing> > was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I> > had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra> > kavacham was over, it went on smoothly.> > > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus> > was a functional malefic for the people I was doing> > the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is> > the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord> > Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord> > and occupies the 6th house of sickness.> > > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give> > sickness and health problems. And, there I was,> > sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good> > health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the> > request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer.> > > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed> > the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has> > arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects> > her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is> > exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The> > girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She> > is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she> > listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a> > couple of times and figures out the tune and plays> > it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of> > having no formal training in any kind of music).> > > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and> > was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to> > push his agenda!> > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,> > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ Dear Narasimha, I feel quite odd to directly address you without adding " Respected " as you are a guru, elder to me both in terms of knowledge as well as age and I have deep respect for you and other gurus of SJC. I have been bought up that way that we respect our teachers and never directly call our teachers (gurus), pandits etc. by their name. So, may I address you as " Sir " or something like that as I feel bit uncomfortable addressing you just by name. You have indeed cleared my doubts and I have saved this text in my computer as word file. One last question: Is there any book from where I can get the kavachas of most of the deities or planets. I think " Geeta Press Gorakhpur " might be having it, but I am not sure. I have found their books very good (both in printing as well as quality wise). Please let me know from where I can get Kavacham of most of the planets / deities. Thanks a lot for answering my doubt and clearing this. Regards, Neeraj --- " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > Dear Neeraj, > > No need to address me with adjectives like > " respected " and suffixes like " ji " . I am just > Narasimha or PVR. > > The job of the lagna lord, 9th lord etc is to > protect the native. The job of the 6th and 8th lord > is to spoil the health of the native. > > Reading the kavacham of the 6th/8th lord is like > approaching the thug who was hired to beat you up > and requesting him to come and be your body guard!!! > > Of course, if you can manage to convince the thug > hired to beat you up to be your body guard, you are > invincible. Similarly, if you succeed in pleasing > the 6th and 8th lords with their kavachas, it is > excellent. But it is difficult. > > In the example, I believe Venus himself caused > disturbance in the prayer because he was > uncomfortable with the request being made. Don't > look at the kavacha as a praise or propitiation of > Venus. It is a request to Venus to bestow upon the > couple good health. > > If the girl in the example prays to Venus, I am sure > Venus will be very pleased. It is not that he > doesn't want her to pray to him. I think he just > found a person to act on his behalf when a request > he was uncomfortable with was being made. > > If you read the kavacham of the lagna lord, lagna > lord is always pleased quickly and will try to > protect you. But whether he succeeds or not depends > on his relationships with the troublemaker planets > and the mutual strengths and dynamics. > > On the other hand, if you read the kavacham of the > troublemaker planets, you need to persist longer to > see any results at all. But, once they are pleased > with you, your problems will go away for sure. You > have basically convinced the thug hired to beat you > up to be your protector! So you will see no results > for a while and suddenly excellent results. > > I hope I haven't confused.. > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > Narasimha > ------------------------------- > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > http://www.SriJagannath.org > ------------------------------- > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > Respected PVR Ji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > I have some queries regarding this. > > > > 1. When Venus is malefic for these persons for > whom > > you are reciting venus kavacham, and reciting it > will > > give protection to these people, then why Venus > itself > > is trying to create the hinderance. As we are > reciting > > the kavacham for venus only (trying to appease > diety), > > so shall the diety create hinderance in her own > > prayer. > > > > 2. You mentioned that the girl who disturbed the > pooja > > has exalted venus and it is aspecting the lagna > too. > > So does it indicate that we should not try to > appease > > the exalted planets by performing prayers for > them. > > Had the girl not been there (suppose), the pooja > would > > have been performed in a proper manner for other > > persons whose venus is malefic. Can it be the > case, > > that the girl is disturbing the pooja, as venus is > > already exalted (powerful) and the venus god does > not > > want the propitiation to be done. > > > > I just want to know it for the sake of knowledge > and > > want to clarify my understanding in this regard. > > Please forgive me, if I have asked something > stupid. > > > > Regards, > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > --- " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > > > > Dear SanjayP, > > > > > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means > " protective > > > shield " . Kavachas of planets are good for > removing > > > physical ailments. > > > > > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a > story. I > > > was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some > > > relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new > house > > > they bought. We had all the time in the world > and I > > > did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When > > > invoking various planets in the pooja, I did > their > > > kavachas in addition to mantras. > > > > > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I > started > > > reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started > throwing > > > tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. > We > > > had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same > thing > > > was repeated three times as I read Sukra > kavacham. I > > > had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra > > > kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. > > > > > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that > Venus > > > was a functional malefic for the people I was > doing > > > the vratam for. For the owner of the house, > Venus is > > > the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord > > > Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th > lord > > > and occupies the 6th house of sickness. > > > > > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to > give > > > sickness and health problems. And, there I was, > > > sincerely praying to that Venus to give them > good > > > health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with > the > > > request and wants to throw obstacles in the > prayer. > > > > > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and > disturbed > > > the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham > has > > > arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus > aspects > > > her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus > is > > > exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. > The > > > girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. > She > > > is also very gifted in terms of musical sense > (she > > > listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a > > > couple of times and figures out the tune and > plays > > > it on the keyboard very well. All this is > inspite of > > > having no formal training in any kind of music). > > > > > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person > and > > > was the one chosen by Venus as his > representative to > > > push his agenda! > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > Narasimha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Hi Narasimha, just wanted to ask u a question not related to astrology.Wanted to chk how u are able to devote so much time on astrology inspite of working in a computer industry. I understand that u r working in Boston and are doing some software programming......Am I Right ? in case u r doing only SJC work than probably its ok .......but if u r doing it along with the regular IT Job than really i would like to know the secret. I too am interested in astrology but.........my job is not allowing me to devote more time to it,hence i thought i will ask u this question regards sandeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Dear PVR, From your quote below, 1st/9th lords are protectors of health while 6/8th lords are spoilers. What if 6th/9th lords are same ( jupiter for cancer lagna?, mercury for capricon lagna?) or 1st/8th lords are same ( Mars for Aries lagna?) 1st/6th lord ( venus for taurus lagna?)? 8/9th lord (saturn for gemini lagna?) Does the effect become neutral? or the malefic nature dominates? thanks in advance, SK "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote: Dear Neeraj, No need to address me with adjectives like "respected" and suffixes like "ji". I am just Narasimha or PVR. The job of the lagna lord, 9th lord etc is to protect the native. The job of the 6th and 8th lord is to spoil the health of the native. Reading the kavacham of the 6th/8th lord is like approaching the thug who was hired to beat you up and requesting him to come and be your body guard!!! Of course, if you can manage to convince the thug hired to beat you up to be your body guard, you are invincible. Similarly, if you succeed in pleasing the 6th and 8th lords with their kavachas, it is excellent. But it is difficult. In the example, I believe Venus himself caused disturbance in the prayer because he was uncomfortable with the request being made. Don't look at the kavacha as a praise or propitiation of Venus. It is a request to Venus to bestow upon the couple good health. If the girl in the example prays to Venus, I am sure Venus will be very pleased. It is not that he doesn't want her to pray to him. I think he just found a person to act on his behalf when a request he was uncomfortable with was being made. If you read the kavacham of the lagna lord, lagna lord is always pleased quickly and will try to protect you. But whether he succeeds or not depends on his relationships with the troublemaker planets and the mutual strengths and dynamics. On the other hand, if you read the kavacham of the troublemaker planets, you need to persist longer to see any results at all. But, once they are pleased with you, your problems will go away for sure. You have basically convinced the thug hired to beat you up to be your protector! So you will see no results for a while and suddenly excellent results. I hope I haven't confused.. Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~> > Respected PVR Ji,> > Namaste.> > I have some queries regarding this.> > 1. When Venus is malefic for these persons for whom> you are reciting venus kavacham, and reciting it will> give protection to these people, then why Venus itself> is trying to create the hinderance. As we are reciting> the kavacham for venus only (trying to appease diety),> so shall the diety create hinderance in her own> prayer.> > 2. You mentioned that the girl who disturbed the pooja> has exalted venus and it is aspecting the lagna too.> So does it indicate that we should not try to appease> the exalted planets by performing prayers for them.> Had the girl not been there (suppose), the pooja would> have been performed in a proper manner for other> persons whose venus is malefic. Can it be the case,> that the girl is disturbing the pooja, as venus is> already exalted (powerful) and the venus god does not> want the propitiation to be done.> > I just want to know it for the sake of knowledge and> want to clarify my understanding in this regard.> Please forgive me, if I have asked something stupid.> > Regards,> > Neeraj> > > --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote:> > > Dear SanjayP,> > > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means "protective> > shield". Kavachas of planets are good for removing> > physical ailments.> > > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I> > was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some> > relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house> > they bought. We had all the time in the world and I> > did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When> > invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their> > kavachas in addition to mantras.> > > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started> > reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing> > tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We> > had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing> > was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I> > had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra> > kavacham was over, it went on smoothly.> > > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus> > was a functional malefic for the people I was doing> > the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is> > the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord> > Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord> > and occupies the 6th house of sickness.> > > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give> > sickness and health problems. And, there I was,> > sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good> > health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the> > request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer.> > > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed> > the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has> > arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects> > her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is> > exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The> > girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She> > is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she> > listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a> > couple of times and figures out the tune and plays> > it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of> > having no formal training in any kind of music).> > > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and> > was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to> > push his agenda!> > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,> > Narasimha India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new Click here Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger Download now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Dear Neeraj, > I feel quite odd to directly address you without> adding "Respected" as you are a guru, elder to me both> in terms of knowledge as well as age and I have deep> respect for you and other gurus of SJC. I have been> bought up that way that we respect our teachers and> never directly call our teachers (gurus), pandits etc.> by their name. So, may I address you as "Sir" or> something like that as I feel bit uncomfortable> addressing you just by name. Your tradition is a good one, but I have a selfish interest in asking you not to call me "respected" or "ji". If the bhava (feeling) of respect is internal, things are fine. Once it externally expresses as a pada (verbal expression), we have created maya (illusion). It is easy to get lost in that maya. One person may use certain words because of a deep feeling. Another person may use it out of obligation because he may think it is the protocol. Without knowing, slowly an image and aura are created around a person and they can finally start influencing the person too!! I just want the layers of maya, which don't really contribute to anybody's learning, to be minimized. Moreover, age, progress in acquiring knowledge etc, as judged by us normally, are all so *transient*. One person may be elder to or supposedly more knowledgeable than another one in the current body. But who knows the ages, experiences and karmas of the souls, which are potentially millions of years old? For all we know, you may be a great rishi from a past life and I may have been your servant. It will be good if we just engage in a simple and free exchange knowledge without any other considerations. You are welcome to have respect for me, but I see no need to express it verbally. > Is there any book from where I can get the kavachas of> most of the deities or planets. I think "Geeta Press> Gorakhpur" might be having it, but I am not sure. I> have found their books very good (both in printing as> well as quality wise). Please let me know from where I> can get Kavacham of most of the planets / deities. I have a small Telugu language pocketbook called "Navagraha stotram". It has the mantras, kavachas, stotras and 108 name stotras of all the nine planets. It is a popular book available in most bookstores selling religious literature in the state of AP. I would presume you should find local language books like that in other states of India too. Otherwise, try the link given by SanjayP a few days back. Actually, I will try to record navagraha kavachas in mp3 format and upload them one of these days. Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~> > Dear Narasimha,> > I feel quite odd to directly address you without> adding "Respected" as you are a guru, elder to me both> in terms of knowledge as well as age and I have deep> respect for you and other gurus of SJC. I have been> bought up that way that we respect our teachers and> never directly call our teachers (gurus), pandits etc.> by their name. So, may I address you as "Sir" or> something like that as I feel bit uncomfortable> addressing you just by name.> > You have indeed cleared my doubts and I have saved> this text in my computer as word file. One last> question:> > Is there any book from where I can get the kavachas of> most of the deities or planets. I think "Geeta Press> Gorakhpur" might be having it, but I am not sure. I> have found their books very good (both in printing as> well as quality wise). Please let me know from where I> can get Kavacham of most of the planets / deities.> > Thanks a lot for answering my doubt and clearing this.> > Regards,> > Neeraj> > --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote:> > > Dear Neeraj,> > > > No need to address me with adjectives like> > "respected" and suffixes like "ji". I am just> > Narasimha or PVR.> > > > The job of the lagna lord, 9th lord etc is to> > protect the native. The job of the 6th and 8th lord> > is to spoil the health of the native.> > > > Reading the kavacham of the 6th/8th lord is like> > approaching the thug who was hired to beat you up> > and requesting him to come and be your body guard!!!> > > > Of course, if you can manage to convince the thug> > hired to beat you up to be your body guard, you are> > invincible. Similarly, if you succeed in pleasing> > the 6th and 8th lords with their kavachas, it is> > excellent. But it is difficult.> > > > In the example, I believe Venus himself caused> > disturbance in the prayer because he was> > uncomfortable with the request being made. Don't> > look at the kavacha as a praise or propitiation of> > Venus. It is a request to Venus to bestow upon the> > couple good health.> > > > If the girl in the example prays to Venus, I am sure> > Venus will be very pleased. It is not that he> > doesn't want her to pray to him. I think he just> > found a person to act on his behalf when a request> > he was uncomfortable with was being made.> > > > If you read the kavacham of the lagna lord, lagna> > lord is always pleased quickly and will try to> > protect you. But whether he succeeds or not depends> > on his relationships with the troublemaker planets> > and the mutual strengths and dynamics.> > > > On the other hand, if you read the kavacham of the> > troublemaker planets, you need to persist longer to> > see any results at all. But, once they are pleased> > with you, your problems will go away for sure. You> > have basically convinced the thug hired to beat you> > up to be your protector! So you will see no results> > for a while and suddenly excellent results.> > > > I hope I haven't confused..> > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,> > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Sri Narasimha -- What if lagna lord is also the 6th or 8th Lord? regards rAm sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Dear Neeraj, > > No need to address me with adjectives like " respected " and suffixes like " ji " . I am just Narasimha or PVR. > > The job of the lagna lord, 9th lord etc is to protect the native. The job of the 6th and 8th lord is to spoil the health of the native. > > Reading the kavacham of the 6th/8th lord is like approaching the thug who was hired to beat you up and requesting him to come and be your body guard!!! > > Of course, if you can manage to convince the thug hired to beat you up to be your body guard, you are invincible. Similarly, if you succeed in pleasing the 6th and 8th lords with their kavachas, it is excellent. But it is difficult. > > In the example, I believe Venus himself caused disturbance in the prayer because he was uncomfortable with the request being made. Don't look at the kavacha as a praise or propitiation of Venus. It is a request to Venus to bestow upon the couple good health. > > If the girl in the example prays to Venus, I am sure Venus will be very pleased. It is not that he doesn't want her to pray to him. I think he just found a person to act on his behalf when a request he was uncomfortable with was being made. > > If you read the kavacham of the lagna lord, lagna lord is always pleased quickly and will try to protect you. But whether he succeeds or not depends on his relationships with the troublemaker planets and the mutual strengths and dynamics. > > On the other hand, if you read the kavacham of the troublemaker planets, you need to persist longer to see any results at all. But, once they are pleased with you, your problems will go away for sure. You have basically convinced the thug hired to beat you up to be your protector! So you will see no results for a while and suddenly excellent results. > > I hope I haven't confused.. > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > Narasimha > ------------------------------- > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > ------------------------------- > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > Respected PVR Ji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > I have some queries regarding this. > > > > 1. When Venus is malefic for these persons for whom > > you are reciting venus kavacham, and reciting it will > > give protection to these people, then why Venus itself > > is trying to create the hinderance. As we are reciting > > the kavacham for venus only (trying to appease diety), > > so shall the diety create hinderance in her own > > prayer. > > > > 2. You mentioned that the girl who disturbed the pooja > > has exalted venus and it is aspecting the lagna too. > > So does it indicate that we should not try to appease > > the exalted planets by performing prayers for them. > > Had the girl not been there (suppose), the pooja would > > have been performed in a proper manner for other > > persons whose venus is malefic. Can it be the case, > > that the girl is disturbing the pooja, as venus is > > already exalted (powerful) and the venus god does not > > want the propitiation to be done. > > > > I just want to know it for the sake of knowledge and > > want to clarify my understanding in this regard. > > Please forgive me, if I have asked something stupid. > > > > Regards, > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > --- " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > Dear SanjayP, > > > > > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means " protective > > > shield " . Kavachas of planets are good for removing > > > physical ailments. > > > > > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I > > > was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some > > > relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house > > > they bought. We had all the time in the world and I > > > did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When > > > invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their > > > kavachas in addition to mantras. > > > > > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started > > > reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing > > > tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We > > > had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing > > > was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I > > > had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra > > > kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. > > > > > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus > > > was a functional malefic for the people I was doing > > > the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is > > > the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord > > > Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord > > > and occupies the 6th house of sickness. > > > > > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give > > > sickness and health problems. And, there I was, > > > sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good > > > health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the > > > request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer. > > > > > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed > > > the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has > > > arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects > > > her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is > > > exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The > > > girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She > > > is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she > > > listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a > > > couple of times and figures out the tune and plays > > > it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of > > > having no formal training in any kind of music). > > > > > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and > > > was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to > > > push his agenda! > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > Narasimha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.