Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Dear Respected memers Regarding,Ishta devatha,planet having amsha in the 12th from karakamsha and placed in the 12th from karakamsha are not the same(But planet lording 12th from karakamsha will always be the same).If we understand this difference our doubts will be cleared.Sage just said 12th from karakamsha-never said planet having amsha in the 12th from karakamsha.12th from karakamsha in ''navsmha chart'' is an assumption and others are free to hold that view. Also two planets can never ''conjunct'' in a navamsha(making ishta devatha formulas in navamsha wrong).Planet A and Planet B will have just one position at a point in time.Vargas are pointing to different relative backdrop/canvas.When we see two planets having amsha in the same sign,they are having sambandha(Think of a planety having sambandha with houses lorded by it,inspite of placement elsewhere).If anyone in this list can explain how two planets can conjunct in navamsha,i am ready to accept their understanding. Thanks Pradee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Dear Pradee, It is possible for two planets to fall into the same house and even the same pada in the navamsha chart. When this happens why would it not be accurate to say the planets were conjoined in the navamsa? Regards, Phyllis sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of vijayadas_pradeepThursday, June 15, 2006 12:06 PMsohamsa Subject: Ishta Devatha Dear Respected memersRegarding,Ishta devatha,planet having amsha in the 12th from karakamshaand placed in the 12th from karakamsha are not the same(But planetlording 12th from karakamsha will always be the same).If we understandthis difference our doubts will be cleared.Sage just said 12th fromkarakamsha-never said planet having amsha in the 12th fromkarakamsha.12th from karakamsha in ''navsmha chart'' is an assumptionand others are free to hold that view.Also two planets can never ''conjunct'' in a navamsha(making ishtadevatha formulas in navamsha wrong).Planet A and Planet B will have justone position at a point in time.Vargas are pointing to differentrelative backdrop/canvas.When we see two planets having amsha in thesame sign,they are having sambandha(Think of a planety having sambandhawith houses lorded by it,inspite of placement elsewhere).If anyone inthis list can explain how two planets can conjunct in navamsha,i amready to accept their understanding.ThanksPradee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Dear shri Phyllis This is the exact answer,that i was looking for.Thanks for understanding my points.Thus conjunction is when two planets are physically conjunct.It can happen only when two planets are conjunct in the rashi chakra.I have mentioned this clearly in my mails,in the past -Planets in navamsha can conjunct only if they are so in the rashi chakra. In the other cases,they are samandhas. Kind Regds Pradeep sohamsa , Phyllis Chubb <phyllischubb wrote: > > Dear Pradee, > > It is possible for two planets to fall into the same house and even the same > pada in the navamsha chart. When this happens why would it not be accurate to > say the planets were conjoined in the navamsa? > > Regards, > > Phyllis > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > vijayadas_pradeep > Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:06 PM > sohamsa > Ishta Devatha > > > > Dear Respected memers > > Regarding,Ishta devatha,planet having amsha in the 12th from karakamsha > and placed in the 12th from karakamsha are not the same(But planet > lording 12th from karakamsha will always be the same).If we understand > this difference our doubts will be cleared.Sage just said 12th from > karakamsha-never said planet having amsha in the 12th from > karakamsha.12th from karakamsha in ''navsmha chart'' is an assumption > and others are free to hold that view. > Also two planets can never ''conjunct'' in a navamsha(making ishta > devatha formulas in navamsha wrong).Planet A and Planet B will have just > one position at a point in time.Vargas are pointing to different > relative backdrop/canvas.When we see two planets having amsha in the > same sign,they are having sambandha(Think of a planety having sambandha > with houses lorded by it,inspite of placement elsewhere).If anyone in > this list can explain how two planets can conjunct in navamsha,i am > ready to accept their understanding. > > Thanks > Pradee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ Hi, I have a small query in all this interesting discussion. Regarding AK, on page 55 of VRA it is mentioned that: " if there are none in the twelfth house, then the planetary aspects on the second house should be determined " I could not understand the above very correctly and hence seek clarification. Does it mean that if there are no planets in twelfth from AK. Then we should check what all planets are aspecting the second house from AK (using only Rashi Drishti and not Graha - Drishti) and consider the strongest planet for determining deity. What if there are some planets in second from AK (none in 12th from AK). Will we look at the strongest planet in 2nd from AK or will we say that the lord of the 12th from AK should be considered for determing Ishta Devta. I have confusion that what we have to check in 2nd house from AK, if none exists in 12th from AK. Requesting gurus and senior members to clarify this. Regards, Neeraj --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > Dear shri Phyllis > > This is the exact answer,that i was looking > for.Thanks for understanding > my points.Thus conjunction is when two planets are > physically > conjunct.It can happen only when two planets are > conjunct in the rashi > chakra.I have mentioned this clearly in my mails,in > the past -Planets in > navamsha can conjunct only if they are so in the > rashi chakra. > In the other cases,they are samandhas. > > Kind Regds > Pradeep > > sohamsa , Phyllis Chubb > <phyllischubb wrote: > > > > Dear Pradee, > > > > It is possible for two planets to fall into the > same house and even > the same > > pada in the navamsha chart. When this happens why > would it not be > accurate to > > say the planets were conjoined in the navamsa? > > > > Regards, > > > > Phyllis > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > sohamsa > [sohamsa ] On > Behalf Of > > vijayadas_pradeep > > Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:06 PM > > sohamsa > > Ishta Devatha > > > > > > > > Dear Respected memers > > > > Regarding,Ishta devatha,planet having amsha in the > 12th from > karakamsha > > and placed in the 12th from karakamsha are not the > same(But planet > > lording 12th from karakamsha will always be the > same).If we understand > > this difference our doubts will be cleared.Sage > just said 12th from > > karakamsha-never said planet having amsha in the > 12th from > > karakamsha.12th from karakamsha in ''navsmha > chart'' is an assumption > > and others are free to hold that view. > > Also two planets can never ''conjunct'' in a > navamsha(making ishta > > devatha formulas in navamsha wrong).Planet A and > Planet B will have > just > > one position at a point in time.Vargas are > pointing to different > > relative backdrop/canvas.When we see two planets > having amsha in the > > same sign,they are having sambandha(Think of a > planety having > sambandha > > with houses lorded by it,inspite of placement > elsewhere).If anyone in > > this list can explain how two planets can conjunct > in navamsha,i am > > ready to accept their understanding. > > > > Thanks > > Pradee > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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