Rasi/Divisional chart show Prarabdha/Sanchita - Visti, PVR disagree

June 15, 2006

Dear Sundeep,

I am not very learned in this matter and I am just an learner and a seeker of truth who is yet to be fully satisfied. So you will be wise to take my words with a pinch of salt.

My thinking is that none of the sixteen divisional charts we normally use shows sanchita karma. I wonder if there is actually a higher astrological chart/parameter that throws light on sanchita karma (karma accumulated from previous lives that will be experienced in future lives, if there are future lives). My thinking is that shashtyamsa, rasi and allied divisional charts throw light only on various aspects of praarbdha karma (part of karma accumulated from previous lives that is earmarked to be experienced in the current life).

BTW, I think that career should be seen by combining dasamsa with rasi and shashtyamsa atleast. But, if one wants to use only chart and not go into combining several charts, I'd rather use just dasamsa than just rasi. But, my position is that unless atleast rasi and shashtyamsa are combined with a divisional chart such as dasamsa, fine judgments cannot be made. Anything else is, to me, an approximation. Judging dasamsa alone, to me, is the best approximation. Others may disagree.

Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

Narasimha (PVR)

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> Dear Visti/PVR/Other Gurus,> > I was reading Visti's article on Navamsa (at http://srigaruda.com), and > Visti says that divisional charts show Sanchita karma, whereas Rasi > shows Prarabdha karma. PVR, in a different thread, seems to support the > notion that in order to see a specific aspect of life, you can simply > look at that divisional. He specifically mentioned this with the > Dasamsa. But when I put Visti's comments together with PVRs, things > dont seem to be consistent. Because then it would seem from Visti's > statements that Dasamsa (for example) would show the Sanchita Karma > of "career", whereas 10th house of Rasi would show the Prarabdha Karma > of "career". So, why look at the Dasamsa at all? Only the Prarabdha > Karma is going to play out in this life time, no? Even if you say that > Sanchita Karma sets the baseline over and above which the Prarabdha > plays out, it still means that looking at only the divisional is not > sufficient.> > Can someone clarify what exactly is the truth? Does each divisional > show some aspect of Sanchita Karma? What, in this context, is > Shastyamsa then? I used to think that Shastyamsa shows the full > Sanchita Karma..> > Sundeep

June 15, 2006

Dear Respected membersI feel Narasimha ji is right in considering multiple amshas.He has mentioned combinations of Rashi,dashamsha and shashtyamsha.But i feel navamsha too should be considered.Classical texts do speak about the navamsha lord of 10th lord for deciding profession.Only difference in opinion i have is considering amshas as charts- as it is against the advise of sages and against fundamental principles.One point to note is while considering amshas,Kshethra usage as compared to Rashi will avoid many confusions.Though Kshethra and Rashi are synonymns,they have a different meaning,while thinking of amshas.Monday always convey the same meaning - but Monday in january and Monday in February,do not represent the same date or for that matter Monday in the first week of a month and monday falling in other weeks.Thus sages have defined 12 bhavas,using the basic bulding block called Rashi.The same Rashis have diffrent classes known as Vargas and a planet or lagna can relate to different Rashis,from its single position in a Rashi.Each sambandha is for a purpose.For example its dashamsha samandha is for Mahatphalam.ThanksPradeepsohamsa , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote:>> Dear Sundeep,> > I am not very learned in this matter and I am just an learner and a seeker of truth who is yet to be fully satisfied. So you will be wise to take my words with a pinch of salt.> > My thinking is that none of the sixteen divisional charts we normally use shows sanchita karma. I wonder if there is actually a higher astrological chart/parameter that throws light on sanchita karma (karma accumulated from previous lives that will be experienced in future lives, if there are future lives). My thinking is that shashtyamsa, rasi and allied divisional charts throw light only on various aspects of praarbdha karma (part of karma accumulated from previous lives that is earmarked to be experienced in the current life).> > BTW, I think that career should be seen by combining dasamsa with rasi and shashtyamsa atleast. But, if one wants to use only chart and not go into combining several charts, I'd rather use just dasamsa than just rasi. But, my position is that unless atleast rasi and shashtyamsa are combined with a divisional chart such as dasamsa, fine judgments cannot be made. Anything else is, to me, an approximation. Judging dasamsa alone, to me, is the best approximation. Others may disagree.> > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,> Narasimha (PVR)> -------------------------------> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> -------------------------------> > > Dear Visti/PVR/Other Gurus,> > > > I was reading Visti's article on Navamsa (at http://srigaruda.com), and > > Visti says that divisional charts show Sanchita karma, whereas Rasi > > shows Prarabdha karma. PVR, in a different thread, seems to support the > > notion that in order to see a specific aspect of life, you can simply > > look at that divisional. He specifically mentioned this with the > > Dasamsa. But when I put Visti's comments together with PVRs, things > > dont seem to be consistent. Because then it would seem from Visti's > > statements that Dasamsa (for example) would show the Sanchita Karma > > of "career", whereas 10th house of Rasi would show the Prarabdha Karma > > of "career". So, why look at the Dasamsa at all? Only the Prarabdha > > Karma is going to play out in this life time, no? Even if you say that > > Sanchita Karma sets the baseline over and above which the Prarabdha > > plays out, it still means that looking at only the divisional is not > > sufficient.> > > > Can someone clarify what exactly is the truth? Does each divisional > > show some aspect of Sanchita Karma? What, in this context, is > > Shastyamsa then? I used to think that Shastyamsa shows the full > > Sanchita Karma..> > > > Sundeep>

June 17, 2006

Dear friends, It is nice to read so healthy discusions on varios subjects.Astrology is science, thus we should define every dictam or statement to avoid confusion.I may like to place my views on some topics: -Rasi chart is only one that is Birth chart.All VARGA CHARTS are bhava charts only.Rasi chart also acts one of the bhava chart. - Various yogas in all charts indicate sanchit KARMA. -Prarabdha Karma manifest and operate through various dasas. -Kriyaman Karma which indicate day to day happenings in life are indicated by Transits. You may have detailed discussinns on this in my article on Nabhas Yogas presented in Puri confrence. -Navamsa INDICATES SKILLS(self acquirred-D-24,inhurrent d-7),this is the reason that navamsa dispositor of 10th lord indicates professional skills( basically not the

profession). -Rashi and planets in 10 th house in D-1 chart from Lagna and the Moon holds the key to profession. -What does it mean that D-10 chart indicates Mahatphalam. Rasi is divided in 10 parts.In odd signs division starts from its own sign and in even signs from 9th sign. THUS in D-10 chart it combines the effect of 1st ,9th and 10th houses, no wonder this chart gives unique results. G.K.GOEL vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Respected membersI feel Narasimha ji is right in considering multiple amshas.He has mentioned combinations of Rashi,dashamsha and shashtyamsha.But i feel navamsha too should be considered.Classical texts do speak about the navamsha lord of 10th lord for deciding profession.Only difference in opinion i have is considering amshas as charts- as it is against the advise of sages and against fundamental principles.One point to note is while considering amshas,Kshethra usage as compared to Rashi will avoid many confusions.Though Kshethra and Rashi are synonymns,they have a different meaning,while thinking of amshas.Monday always convey the same

meaning - but Monday in january and Monday in February,do not represent the same date or for that matter Monday in the first week of a month and monday falling in other weeks.Thus sages have defined 12 bhavas,using the basic bulding block called Rashi.The same Rashis have diffrent classes known as Vargas and a planet or lagna can relate to different Rashis,from its single position in a Rashi.Each sambandha is for a purpose.For example its dashamsha samandha is for Mahatphalam.ThanksPradeepsohamsa , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote:>> Dear Sundeep,> > I am not very learned in this matter and I am just an learner and a seeker of truth who is yet to be fully satisfied. So you will be wise to take my words with a pinch of salt.> > My thinking is that none of the sixteen divisional charts we normally use shows sanchita karma. I wonder if there is actually a higher astrological

chart/parameter that throws light on sanchita karma (karma accumulated from previous lives that will be experienced in future lives, if there are future lives). My thinking is that shashtyamsa, rasi and allied divisional charts throw light only on various aspects of praarbdha karma (part of karma accumulated from previous lives that is earmarked to be experienced in the current life).> > BTW, I think that career should be seen by combining dasamsa with rasi and shashtyamsa atleast. But, if one wants to use only chart and not go into combining several charts, I'd rather use just dasamsa than just rasi. But, my position is that unless atleast rasi and shashtyamsa are combined with a divisional chart such as dasamsa, fine judgments cannot be made. Anything else is, to me, an approximation. Judging dasamsa alone, to me, is the best approximation. Others may disagree.> > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,> Narasimha (PVR)>

-------------------------------> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> -------------------------------> > > Dear Visti/PVR/Other Gurus,> > > > I was reading Visti's article on Navamsa (at http://srigaruda.com), and > > Visti says that divisional charts show Sanchita karma, whereas Rasi > > shows Prarabdha karma. PVR, in a different thread, seems to support the > > notion that in order to see a specific aspect of life, you can simply > > look at that divisional. He specifically mentioned this with the > > Dasamsa. But when I put Visti's comments together with PVRs, things > > dont seem to be consistent. Because then it would seem

from Visti's > > statements that Dasamsa (for example) would show the Sanchita Karma > > of "career", whereas 10th house of Rasi would show the Prarabdha Karma > > of "career". So, why look at the Dasamsa at all? Only the Prarabdha > > Karma is going to play out in this life time, no? Even if you say that > > Sanchita Karma sets the baseline over and above which the Prarabdha > > plays out, it still means that looking at only the divisional is not > > sufficient.> > > > Can someone clarify what exactly is the truth? Does each divisional > > show some aspect of Sanchita Karma? What, in this context, is > > Shastyamsa then? I used to think that Shastyamsa shows the full > > Sanchita Karma..> > > > Sundeep>

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