[Rath's Rhapsody] India: the BJP's dilemma

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

 

i appreciate the candid views expressed by Pt. Sanjay Rathji and his

concerns about the future of India.

 

Time has come when the masses have to rise above petty politics of

caste, creed, religion, etc. and save the country from these

politicians who are ever ready to auction the country and its

aspirations for their own survival and of their kith and kin.

 

Time has come for every true Indian to retrospect and ask what we

can do to save India, rather than what India can do for us.

 

In this context, i recently posted a message in the Vedic Astrology

Group (vedic astrology/message/75181)

requesting the forum members to analyze the longevity of the present

UPA Government at the Centre. One member wanted me to be banned from

the Group for raising such an issue and a lone member supported me.

Nothing has happened since then.

 

Likewise, I also raised the issue of the nuclear deal between India

and the U.S. in the same Group and that too did not evoke much

debate except one of the students of Pt. Sanjay Rath mentioning that

this matter has already been analyzed by Panditji and the links to

the audio files were provided.

 

This mail is not be to be construed as a complaint against any

specific Group but is only an attempt to encourage gifted people of

such forums to utilize their knowledge and a portion of their time

towards the general welfare of the country rather than concentrating

on problems of individuals / specific persons alone.

 

It is true that happy individuals make a happy family, families,

communities, state, country and so on. However, in certain

situations a top-down approach is necessary. If the ship sinks, all

is gone.

 

i, too, like Pt. Sanjay Rathji and many Indians are pro-India and

neither pro-BJP or anti-BJP. I wish the learned and the gifted

people of this country rise up to the occasion once again to try and

save the country from these politicians. Fences are built to protect

the garden, but when the fence starts devouring the garden what will

remain.

 

This may not be the right forum but I feel that an idea should be

floated that the political parties should be allowed the

administration of the states / country. All policy matters such as

employment, agriculture, rural development, manufacturing,

education, reservations, nuclear energy, should be vested with a new

entity (Think-Tank)that would be constituted by picking up the best

of the brains in the country or even in the world, if need be. Pay

them more than what they command in the commercial world, and reward

them with further incentives based on actual performance. The

country would still be better off than being ruled by the policies

of present day politicians who are hell bent on frittering away the

tax payers' money to further their own cause.

 

Achieving such changes may be a Herculean task requiring

Constitutional Amendments and costing money by way of referendum,

etc. Also, the political parties will not let their hold on the

nation and its resources go that easily.

 

When the country is groping in the darkness and the masses are being

misled by the political parties, why can we not use this wonderful

science of Vedic Astrology given to us by our ancestors as a guide

to resolve the problems facing the country?

 

I request all the learned members of this as well as other forums to

dwell on these points and pursue this thought further. May God help

all us so that we do not fail in our duties to our motherland.

 

With Best Regards,

Bala S M

[Guest guest]

| om gurave namah |Dear Bala

Thank you for sharing your concern about India and your request is examined again. When the government of Dr Manmohan Singh was formed, I had made a few statements and I still stand by those statements.

 

1. Because of the nodal axis, half the period will be fantastic and the rest half will be horrible. The first hald from Rahu to Ketu ends on 1 Jan 2006

 

2. Mercury will cause many problems and the partners in-colition will form groups, especially the "green brigade" (you know what I mean), and this has already happened now with the formation of a third front with Laloo bhai and others.

 

Mercury is also 9th lord (higher learning) and as such rules students. So the students were agitating (Rahu joins Mercury) in this Mercury period from 15 March 2006 to 1 Dec 2006. The dates are not over and the problem is not over. The respite is temporary due to the supreme court (Jupiter-justice) and when the students see this hope vanish into thin air, they will again go to the streets. God forbid and let us hope they find the money to create those additional seats. Of course no one is bothered about the jobs that must follow after the students get educated. Manmohan Singh understands this as he is a top notch economist but has nt said anything as yet. Let's wait and watch.

 

Manmohan Singh Government 5-yr chart

May 22, 2004Time: 5:32:30 pmTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" Delhi, India

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon 5 year compression):

Maha Dasas:

Rah: 2003-12-31 - 2004-10-02 Jup: 2004-10-02 - 2005-05-30 Sat: 2005-05-30 - 2006-03-15 Merc: 2006-03-15 - 2006-12-01 Ket: 2006-12-01 - 2007-03-15 Ven: 2007-03-15 - 2008-01-15 Sun: 2008-01-15 - 2008-04-13 Moon: 2008-04-13 - 2008-09-16 Mars: 2008-09-16 - 2008-12-30

 

 

 

Best wishes and warm regards,Sanjay RathPersonal: WebPages ¡ü Rath¡Çs Rhapsody SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center ¡ü SJCERC ¡ü JIVAPublications: The Jyotish Digest ¡ü Sagittarius Publications----

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of balas_9999Saturday, June 03, 2006 1:41 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] India: the BJP's dilemma

Dear Members,i appreciate the candid views expressed by Pt. Sanjay Rathji and his concerns about the future of India.Time has come when the masses have to rise above petty politics of caste, creed, religion, etc. and save the country from these politicians who are ever ready to auction the country and its aspirations for their own survival and of their kith and kin. Time has come for every true Indian to retrospect and ask what we can do to save India, rather than what India can do for us.In this context, i recently posted a message in the Vedic Astrology Group (vedic astrology/message/75181) requesting the forum members to analyze the longevity of the present UPA Government at the Centre. One member wanted me to be banned from the Group for raising such an issue and a lone member supported me. Nothing has happened since then.Likewise, I also raised the issue of the nuclear deal between India and the U.S. in the same Group and that too did not evoke much debate except one of the students of Pt. Sanjay Rath mentioning that this matter has already been analyzed by Panditji and the links to the audio files were provided.This mail is not be to be construed as a complaint against any specific Group but is only an attempt to encourage gifted people of such forums to utilize their knowledge and a portion of their time towards the general welfare of the country rather than concentrating on problems of individuals / specific persons alone. It is true that happy individuals make a happy family, families, communities, state, country and so on. However, in certain situations a top-down approach is necessary. If the ship sinks, all is gone. i, too, like Pt. Sanjay Rathji and many Indians are pro-India and neither pro-BJP or anti-BJP. I wish the learned and the gifted people of this country rise up to the occasion once again to try and save the country from these politicians. Fences are built to protect the garden, but when the fence starts devouring the garden what will remain.This may not be the right forum but I feel that an idea should be floated that the political parties should be allowed the administration of the states / country. All policy matters such as employment, agriculture, rural development, manufacturing, education, reservations, nuclear energy, should be vested with a new entity (Think-Tank)that would be constituted by picking up the best of the brains in the country or even in the world, if need be. Pay them more than what they command in the commercial world, and reward them with further incentives based on actual performance. The country would still be better off than being ruled by the policies of present day politicians who are hell bent on frittering away the tax payers' money to further their own cause. Achieving such changes may be a Herculean task requiring Constitutional Amendments and costing money by way of referendum, etc. Also, the political parties will not let their hold on the nation and its resources go that easily.When the country is groping in the darkness and the masses are being misled by the political parties, why can we not use this wonderful science of Vedic Astrology given to us by our ancestors as a guide to resolve the problems facing the country? I request all the learned members of this as well as other forums to dwell on these points and pursue this thought further. May God help all us so that we do not fail in our duties to our motherland.With Best Regards,Bala S M

 

 

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Respected Guruji,

The following piece was a very good read. It sounded

like editorial of some very reputed journal. You have

this deep insight may be because you were in civil

services. It was very nice of you to post your

perspective on the issue that has really saddened the

people looking upto BJP as an alternative.

Thanks very much

Manoj

 

 

 

 

--- " Pt.Sanjay Rath " <guruji wrote:

 

 

 

The recent happenings related to members of the

Bharatiya Janata Party or their kith and kin have left

us in a state of deep shock and sorrow. It is not

that death has ever been a worry for someone who

see's suffering and death in charts all the time, but

the way things are going and the manner in which it

is happening is the cause of worry.

 

Firstly, the BJP is the other alternative to the

Congress and Janata Party which has provided

governance to India thereby reinforcing the essential

values of a multiparty democratic political set up in

India. Whether we agree with this multiparty system is

another issue as it's inherent backlash is the

formation of regional parties based on ethnic groups

like language or culture (Shiv Sena in Maharashtra,

BJD in Orissa, Telugu Desam in Andhra or the

DMK/AIADMK in Tamil Nadu, Bodo's in Assam, Akali Dal

in Punjab etc). And these ethnic parties are forced

due to their formation only to think for the welfare

of their supporters and local regions instead of India

as a whole thereby having a tendency to divide India

back into the multi-political kingdoms that is was

before this its formation.

 

Secondly, the BJP has brought back some sort of a

'proud to be Indian' feeling into the people due to

reinforcement of their cultural and vedic roots in

various ways but due to its support base had been

forced to take some postures which can be viewed as

supporting the majority hindu's and suspicious of

some of the minority groups. Sri L.K.Advani had made a

sincere attempt to change this but has only been

misunderstood and strongly put down by his own

supporters in the RSS and the party itself. Fact

remains that Muhammad Ali Jinnah never gave in

writing, even once that India should be partitioned

and kept his demand for Pakistan on top agenda to

counter Nehru for the top post of first Prime

Minister of India. That Nehru did not even have the

support of one region for this position is also well

known and how Sardar Patel and Maulana Azad were

sidetracked by Gandhi to gift this to Nehru. Its all

politics and fair in that sense, and maybe we Indians

are not yet ready to read the truth without color.

 

In the BJP Chart, the tenth lord Jupiter is under

curse from Mars, Rahu and Saturn and is in marana

karaka sthana in the third house showing that every

attempt to project a peaceful (Jupiter) image or take

to the peaceful path will be fruitless. The party

will be viewed as reactionary and strong in arms

against their opposition. The BJP was the one who made

India a nuclear force and brought it into the world

map. This yoga is also dangerous for its leaders as

Jupiter is the 10th lord and as the 7th lord threatens

its partners as well. Since this is in Leo

(Sun-Kalinga/Orissa), the only state/partner which

has not been affected is the Bharatiya Janata Dal of

Naveen Patnaik in Orissa. More so as there is a

aparivartana Yoga with the Sun having digbala in the

10th house.

 

All other partners are today in a state of disarray.

Bengal (Pisces) is completely smashed with the left

parties (Saturn) having come to great power led by

Mercury (Buddhadeb Bhattacharya) who has routed Mamta

Bannerjee (Mars).

 

In Punjab the Akali dal is fighting to stay alive as

the Congress led by the ex-Raja of Patiala (who was

scorned by the BJP when he wanted to join them) is

bulldozing its citadel.

 

In Maharashtra which was the strong area of the Shiv

Sena and the RSS, the Congress with the support of the

strongman Sharad Pawar (Mercury) has provided

complete check and Bal thackeray the strong

belligerant lion suffered personal setbacks when car

accidents claimed his dear ones.

 

In such a scenario, Pramod Mahajan, for all his

unpopularity with some sections due to his politics,

was much needed as he was the man Friday who kept the

coalitions alive. Infact he was a strong believer

that given the present scenario of a completely

divided Indian population on caste and religion

grounds, the only way the BJP could make it to power

was through the poltics of coalitions and

partnerships. His death will be a big blow to the BJP

in that they have lost their 'all-rounder'. To add to

the woes, the BJP really does not know what to say

about the way he died - shot by a younger brother who

is 'not telling anything about why he did so' and all

kinds of rumors are doing their way about the

happenings inside the BJP.

 

Kicking the leaders (Jupiter is 10th lord in curse)

People still remember the threatening words of Madan

Lal Khurana about exposing the 'sex scandals' inside

BJP! Khurana was the first BJP Chief Minister in India

and the one who kept the flag flying for many years

till the BJP was able to organise itself.

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=380688 In

addition to Khurana, Uma Bharati who led the BJP in

getting Madhya Pradesh back has also been kicked out

and these 'soccer penalties' started with the iron

man Kalyan Singh of Uttar Pradesh. The BJP needs a

strong Jupiter who will keep the flock together and I

don't see this happening before 2008.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/2004/03/05/stories/2004030506800400.htm

(ref)

 

Now about the 'kith and kin'. The BJP has always had

the reputation of being strong supporters of Hindu

sentiments and culture. And now when Mahajan's

secretary Moitra and son Rahul Mahajan were supposed

to carry the ashes of Pramod Mahajan to the holy

Ganges, they took some champagne (alcohol) and also

did some drugs and was already on depressants and

Moitra died before reaching the hospital as Rahul

battles for life. The question arising is what values

have these people, who profess to uphold hindutva,

inculcated in their own children.

http://in.news./rahulmahajan.html

 

Yes, I am sad as I thought that the BJP was a good

alternative, but I am very convinced that India needs

a two party democracy if it has to stay as one nation

without another partition as even people like

Manmohan Singh, given the political expediency, resort

to caste based gimmicks for vote banks (unbelievable

but true - yes, Manmohan Singh also!). In fact the

latest 27% quota for OBC is an endorsement of

V.P.Singh. Oh God! If only Rajiv Gandhi was alive

today. He alone was that face of Indian politics which

has been above these caste, religion gimmicks and he

alone was the hope of a united, strong and most

modern India.

 

It is not important from which party he comes, but

can India hope for another Rajiv Gandhi?

 

 

--

Posted by Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at

6/03/2006 10:02:00 AM

 

|brihaspatim varenyam|

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

 

 

| om gurave namah |Dear Manoj and friends

Thank you for your kind words and hope.

Did you notice the mantra on top of the webpages in my website http://srath.com? They change every hour. Just try to keep track of what mantra you got when you went there on a particular day and what relevance it had for you on that day.Best wishes and warm regards,Sanjay RathPersonal: WebPages ¡ü Rath¡Çs Rhapsody SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center ¡ü SJCERC ¡ü JIVAPublications: The Jyotish Digest ¡ü Sagittarius Publications----

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Manoj SharmaSaturday, June 03, 2006 6:59 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] India: the BJP's dilemma

Respected Guruji,The following piece was a very good read. It soundedlike editorial of some very reputed journal. You havethis deep insight may be because you were in civilservices. It was very nice of you to post yourperspective on the issue that has really saddened thepeople looking upto BJP as an alternative.Thanks very muchManoj

 

 

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Namaste all,

 

First, thank you Pt. Rath for sharing your nationalistic views with

us. Although, I personally disagree that Rajiv was that effective a

PM, it is very clear that you care for India like a true citizen of

the land should (Venus in 5th house).

 

Second, Bala is correct. I have seen apathy, mostly, about India and

its fate in the Vedic astrology circles. I know not if this apathy is

driven due to hopelessness of India's Independence chart or due to

sheer lack of regard. I think and hope it is the former.

 

Finally, here is my predicament when it comes to India. The UPA

government and its fallacies are of immediate concern. Nonetheless,

the bigger concern is the really weak Indian Independence chart. Pt.

Rath has done an excellent analysis of this chart in one of the

Jyotish Digest papers, which sadly has rid me of my pipe dream of

seeing India become a prosperous, powerful nation of the free.

 

The question is - given the current chart, the loss of Indian

territory shall continue to take place. Which is the next most

probable land we lose (me thinks, its J & K), and when? As Jyotisa, what

is our hope when it comes to India? Is dissolution of the present

Republic of India and reformation of India ever possible based on the

current chart? I know every land has its karma, but India, it seems

has endless karmic debt that her 1+ billion population has been paying

for simply too long.

 

May Sri Vishnu bless my nation of the lost,

Reema.

 

sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji wrote:

>

> | om gurave namah |

> Dear Bala

> Thank you for sharing your concern about India and your request is

examined

> again. When the government of Dr Manmohan Singh was formed, I had

made a few

> statements and I still stand by those statements.

>

> 1. Because of the nodal axis, half the period will be fantastic and

the rest

> half will be horrible. The first hald from Rahu to Ketu ends on 1

Jan 2006

>

> 2. Mercury will cause many problems and the partners in-colition

will form

> groups, especially the " green brigade " (you know what I mean), and

this has

> already happened now with the formation of a third front with Laloo

bhai and

> others.

>

> Mercury is also 9th lord (higher learning) and as such rules

students. So

> the students were agitating (Rahu joins Mercury) in this Mercury

period from

> 15 March 2006 to 1 Dec 2006. The dates are not over and the problem

is not

> over. The respite is temporary due to the supreme court

(Jupiter-justice)

> and when the students see this hope vanish into thin air, they will

again go

> to the streets. God forbid and let us hope they find the money to create

> those additional seats. Of course no one is bothered about the jobs that

> must follow after the students get educated. Manmohan Singh

understands this

> as he is a top notch economist but has nt said anything as yet.

Let's wait

> and watch.

>

> Manmohan Singh Government 5-yr chart

> May 22, 2004

> Time: 5:32:30 pm

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 77 E 13' 00 " , 28 N 40' 00 "

> Delhi, India

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon 5 year compression):

> Maha Dasas:

> Rah: 2003-12-31 - 2004-10-02

> Jup: 2004-10-02 - 2005-05-30

> Sat: 2005-05-30 - 2006-03-15

> Merc: 2006-03-15 - 2006-12-01

> Ket: 2006-12-01 - 2007-03-15

> Ven: 2007-03-15 - 2008-01-15

> Sun: 2008-01-15 - 2008-04-13

> Moon: 2008-04-13 - 2008-09-16

> Mars: 2008-09-16 - 2008-12-30

>

>

>

>

> Best wishes and warm regards,

> Sanjay Rath

>

> Personal: <http://srath.com/blog/> WebPages ¡ü

<http://srath.com/blog/>

> Rath¡Çs Rhapsody

> SJC WebPages: <http://.org/> Sri Jagannath Center ¡ü

> <http://sjcerc.com/> SJCERC ¡ü <http://jiva.us/> JIVA

> Publications: <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> The Jyotish Digest ¡ü

> <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> Sagittarius Publications

> ----

>

>

> _____

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of

> balas_9999

> Saturday, June 03, 2006 1:41 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] India: the BJP's dilemma

>

>

> Dear Members,

>

> i appreciate the candid views expressed by Pt. Sanjay Rathji and his

> concerns about the future of India.

>

> Time has come when the masses have to rise above petty politics of

> caste, creed, religion, etc. and save the country from these

> politicians who are ever ready to auction the country and its

> aspirations for their own survival and of their kith and kin.

>

> Time has come for every true Indian to retrospect and ask what we

> can do to save India, rather than what India can do for us.

>

> In this context, i recently posted a message in the Vedic Astrology

> Group (vedic astrology/message/75181)

> requesting the forum members to analyze the longevity of the present

> UPA Government at the Centre. One member wanted me to be banned from

> the Group for raising such an issue and a lone member supported me.

> Nothing has happened since then.

>

> Likewise, I also raised the issue of the nuclear deal between India

> and the U.S. in the same Group and that too did not evoke much

> debate except one of the students of Pt. Sanjay Rath mentioning that

> this matter has already been analyzed by Panditji and the links to

> the audio files were provided.

>

> This mail is not be to be construed as a complaint against any

> specific Group but is only an attempt to encourage gifted people of

> such forums to utilize their knowledge and a portion of their time

> towards the general welfare of the country rather than concentrating

> on problems of individuals / specific persons alone.

>

> It is true that happy individuals make a happy family, families,

> communities, state, country and so on. However, in certain

> situations a top-down approach is necessary. If the ship sinks, all

> is gone.

>

> i, too, like Pt. Sanjay Rathji and many Indians are pro-India and

> neither pro-BJP or anti-BJP. I wish the learned and the gifted

> people of this country rise up to the occasion once again to try and

> save the country from these politicians. Fences are built to protect

> the garden, but when the fence starts devouring the garden what will

> remain.

>

> This may not be the right forum but I feel that an idea should be

> floated that the political parties should be allowed the

> administration of the states / country. All policy matters such as

> employment, agriculture, rural development, manufacturing,

> education, reservations, nuclear energy, should be vested with a new

> entity (Think-Tank)that would be constituted by picking up the best

> of the brains in the country or even in the world, if need be. Pay

> them more than what they command in the commercial world, and reward

> them with further incentives based on actual performance. The

> country would still be better off than being ruled by the policies

> of present day politicians who are hell bent on frittering away the

> tax payers' money to further their own cause.

>

> Achieving such changes may be a Herculean task requiring

> Constitutional Amendments and costing money by way of referendum,

> etc. Also, the political parties will not let their hold on the

> nation and its resources go that easily.

>

> When the country is groping in the darkness and the masses are being

> misled by the political parties, why can we not use this wonderful

> science of Vedic Astrology given to us by our ancestors as a guide

> to resolve the problems facing the country?

>

> I request all the learned members of this as well as other forums to

> dwell on these points and pursue this thought further. May God help

> all us so that we do not fail in our duties to our motherland.

>

> With Best Regards,

> Bala S M

>

>

>

>

>

>

|brihaspatim varenyam|

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

|om|Dear Sanjay, pranaams

Did you notice the mantra on top of the webpages in my website http://srath.com? They change every hour. Just try to keep track of what mantra you got when you went there on a particular day and what relevance it had for you on that day.You continue to hand out such tantalizing teasers like this!!! I visited your website yesterday & today and did notice the mantras at the top of the page:

yesterday - om dakaraya namah (not sure about spelling)today - om devipujitaya namahBut I am stumped as to what relevance these mantras had for me on those days! regardsHari

[Guest guest]

Respected Sanjay Ji,

 

I visited the page and saw the Mantra: It was ' om

dhanurm & #299;n & #257;dhip & #257;ya

nama & #295;'. It refers to Deva Guru Brihaspati.

 

Guru has a lot of relevance even generally and at the present moment

in my life. I visited the page when I am drafting a legal case on my

Laptop (Guru Karaka of law) and also commencing a professional

Jyotish consultancy for a client (Guru Karaka for Jyotish and

consultancy: 5th House of Rashi Chakra is Dhanu with Guru posited

therein and Meena Rashi is the 5th from Arudha Lagna and 8th from

Lagna with Labhpada conjoined: 11th June, 1972; Cuttack, Orissa,

India; 10:17:52 AM)

 

I do not know at this moment if there is more significance of this

Mantra at the present time. There must be but it was sort of

incredible to visit right away and see this.

 

Regards.

 

Anurag.

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji wrote:

>

>

>

>

> | om gurave namah |

> Dear Manoj and friends

>

> Thank you for your kind words and hope.

>

> Did you notice the mantra on top of the webpages in my website

http://srath.

> com? They change every hour. Just try to keep track of what mantra

you got

> when you went there on a particular day and what relevance it had

for you on

> that day.

> Best wishes and warm regards,

> Sanjay Rath

>

> Personal: <http://srath.com/blog/> WebPages ¡ü

<http://srath.com/blog/>

> Rath¡Çs Rhapsody

> SJC WebPages: <http://.org/> Sri Jagannath Center ¡ü

> <http://sjcerc.com/> SJCERC ¡ü <http://jiva.us/> JIVA

> Publications: <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> The Jyotish Digest ¡ü

> <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> Sagittarius Publications

> -

---

>

>

>

> _____

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of

> Manoj Sharma

> Saturday, June 03, 2006 6:59 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] India: the BJP's dilemma

>

>

> Respected Guruji,

> The following piece was a very good read. It sounded

> like editorial of some very reputed journal. You have

> this deep insight may be because you were in civil

> services. It was very nice of you to post your

> perspective on the issue that has really saddened the

> people looking upto BJP as an alternative.

> Thanks very much

> Manoj

_____

>

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The Mantra has not come out right, I should correct it:

 

Om Dhanurmeenadhipaya Namah.

 

sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma "

<anuraagsharma27 wrote:

>

> Respected Sanjay Ji,

>

> I visited the page and saw the Mantra: It was ' om

dhanurm & #299;n & #257;dhip & #257;ya

> nama & #295;'. It refers to Deva Guru Brihaspati.

>

> Guru has a lot of relevance even generally and at the present

moment

> in my life. I visited the page when I am drafting a legal case on

my

> Laptop (Guru Karaka of law) and also commencing a professional

> Jyotish consultancy for a client (Guru Karaka for Jyotish and

> consultancy: 5th House of Rashi Chakra is Dhanu with Guru posited

> therein and Meena Rashi is the 5th from Arudha Lagna and 8th from

> Lagna with Labhpada conjoined: 11th June, 1972; Cuttack, Orissa,

> India; 10:17:52 AM)

>

> I do not know at this moment if there is more significance of this

> Mantra at the present time. There must be but it was sort of

> incredible to visit right away and see this.

>

> Regards.

>

> Anurag.

>

>

>

> sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > | om gurave namah |

> > Dear Manoj and friends

> >

> > Thank you for your kind words and hope.

> >

> > Did you notice the mantra on top of the webpages in my website

> http://srath.

> > com? They change every hour. Just try to keep track of what

mantra

> you got

> > when you went there on a particular day and what relevance it

had

> for you on

> > that day.

> > Best wishes and warm regards,

> > Sanjay Rath

> > --------------------------------

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> >

> >

> > _____

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> > sohamsa [sohamsa ]

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> Behalf Of

> > Manoj Sharma

> > Saturday, June 03, 2006 6:59 PM

> > sohamsa

> > Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] India: the BJP's dilemma

> >

> >

> > Respected Guruji,

> > The following piece was a very good read. It sounded

> > like editorial of some very reputed journal. You have

> > this deep insight may be because you were in civil

> > services. It was very nice of you to post your

> > perspective on the issue that has really saddened the

> > people looking upto BJP as an alternative.

> > Thanks very much

> > Manoj

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Pt. Sanjay Rathji,

 

Thanks for elaborating on the subject matter once again. As Reemaji

has rightly put it you are a true nationalist and your concern about

India and its future is apparent.

 

Thanks also to Raghunatha Raoji for providing his detailed analysis

of the situation and also to the other members of the forum who

would have gone through the discussion thread.

 

The general public like me who are lay persons as far as astrology

is concerned, will conclude from the various analysis that the dark

phase of the UPA Government has commenced from Jan 2006, that our

students will have to once again sacrifice and take to the streets

for getting justice and that this Government will collapse by the

end of the year.

 

It is disturbing to note that astrological analysis indicate a

possibility of India losing territory. Whereas our Defence Minister

is talking about protecting the Malacca Strait. The chances of

losing more chunks of territory in future is quite possible, what

with the influx of foreign nationals from neighboring countries. Our

politicians are using this also as their Vote Bank.

 

The politicians want us to believe that India will become a super

power. How? By robbing and cheating the masses (a politician who

died recently is unofficially estimated to be worth many Crores).

The day every Indian is provided home, food, water & job -India will

become a super power.

 

i quote Reemaji " I have seen apathy, mostly, about India and its

fate in the Vedic astrology circles. I know not if this apathy is

driven due to hopelessness of India's Independence chart or due to

sheer lack of regard. " Unquote.

 

The apathy about India and its fate is probably because hopelessness

of India's Independence chart and the situation being beyond

redemption.

 

There was a joke on the net some time back. All heads of government

were in a meeting with God. Each one would ask God as to when their

so and so problem would be resolved. God would respond saying that

it would be resolved in a decade, by the next Government, a century,

during your life time, your successor's life time, etc. In case of

India, God remains silent and on persistent requests from Dr.

Manmohan Singh, God angrily retorts saying " How do you expect me to

answer your question when I do not see the problem getting resolved

even during my life time " .

 

i hope we Indians realise and rectify our mistakes and help India

regain its past glory.

 

Let us all hope and pray that the next government is headed by a

good and conscientious Prime Minister and is able to rectify the

matters and provide relief to the billion plus population.

 

With Warm Regards,

Bala S M

 

sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji wrote:

>

> | om gurave namah |

> Dear Bala

> Thank you for sharing your concern about India and your request is

examined

> again. When the government of Dr Manmohan Singh was formed, I had

made a few

> statements and I still stand by those statements.

>

> 1. Because of the nodal axis, half the period will be fantastic

and the rest

> half will be horrible. The first hald from Rahu to Ketu ends on 1

Jan 2006

>

> 2. Mercury will cause many problems and the partners in-colition

will form

> groups, especially the " green brigade " (you know what I mean), and

this has

> already happened now with the formation of a third front with

Laloo bhai and

> others.

>

> Mercury is also 9th lord (higher learning) and as such rules

students. So

> the students were agitating (Rahu joins Mercury) in this Mercury

period from

> 15 March 2006 to 1 Dec 2006. The dates are not over and the

problem is not

> over. The respite is temporary due to the supreme court (Jupiter-

justice)

> and when the students see this hope vanish into thin air, they

will again go

> to the streets. God forbid and let us hope they find the money to

create

> those additional seats. Of course no one is bothered about the

jobs that

> must follow after the students get educated. Manmohan Singh

understands this

> as he is a top notch economist but has nt said anything as yet.

Let's wait

> and watch.

>

> Manmohan Singh Government 5-yr chart

> May 22, 2004

> Time: 5:32:30 pm

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 77 E 13' 00 " , 28 N 40' 00 "

> Delhi, India

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon 5 year compression):

> Maha Dasas:

> Rah: 2003-12-31 - 2004-10-02

> Jup: 2004-10-02 - 2005-05-30

> Sat: 2005-05-30 - 2006-03-15

> Merc: 2006-03-15 - 2006-12-01

> Ket: 2006-12-01 - 2007-03-15

> Ven: 2007-03-15 - 2008-01-15

> Sun: 2008-01-15 - 2008-04-13

> Moon: 2008-04-13 - 2008-09-16

> Mars: 2008-09-16 - 2008-12-30

>

>

>

>

> Best wishes and warm regards,

> Sanjay Rath

>

> Personal: <http://srath.com/blog/> WebPages ¡ü

<http://srath.com/blog/>

> Rath¡Çs Rhapsody

> SJC WebPages: <http://.org/> Sri Jagannath Center ¡ü

> <http://sjcerc.com/> SJCERC ¡ü <http://jiva.us/> JIVA

> Publications: <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> The Jyotish Digest ¡ü

> <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> Sagittarius Publications

> -

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>

>

> _____

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of

> balas_9999

> Saturday, June 03, 2006 1:41 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] India: the BJP's dilemma

>

>

> Dear Members,

>

> i appreciate the candid views expressed by Pt. Sanjay Rathji and

his

> concerns about the future of India.

>

> Time has come when the masses have to rise above petty politics of

> caste, creed, religion, etc. and save the country from these

> politicians who are ever ready to auction the country and its

> aspirations for their own survival and of their kith and kin.

>

> Time has come for every true Indian to retrospect and ask what we

> can do to save India, rather than what India can do for us.

>

> In this context, i recently posted a message in the Vedic Astrology

> Group (vedic astrology/message/75181)

> requesting the forum members to analyze the longevity of the

present

> UPA Government at the Centre. One member wanted me to be banned

from

> the Group for raising such an issue and a lone member supported me.

> Nothing has happened since then.

>

> Likewise, I also raised the issue of the nuclear deal between India

> and the U.S. in the same Group and that too did not evoke much

> debate except one of the students of Pt. Sanjay Rath mentioning

that

> this matter has already been analyzed by Panditji and the links to

> the audio files were provided.

>

> This mail is not be to be construed as a complaint against any

> specific Group but is only an attempt to encourage gifted people of

> such forums to utilize their knowledge and a portion of their time

> towards the general welfare of the country rather than

concentrating

> on problems of individuals / specific persons alone.

>

> It is true that happy individuals make a happy family, families,

> communities, state, country and so on. However, in certain

> situations a top-down approach is necessary. If the ship sinks, all

> is gone.

>

> i, too, like Pt. Sanjay Rathji and many Indians are pro-India and

> neither pro-BJP or anti-BJP. I wish the learned and the gifted

> people of this country rise up to the occasion once again to try

and

> save the country from these politicians. Fences are built to

protect

> the garden, but when the fence starts devouring the garden what

will

> remain.

>

> This may not be the right forum but I feel that an idea should be

> floated that the political parties should be allowed the

> administration of the states / country. All policy matters such as

> employment, agriculture, rural development, manufacturing,

> education, reservations, nuclear energy, should be vested with a

new

> entity (Think-Tank)that would be constituted by picking up the best

> of the brains in the country or even in the world, if need be. Pay

> them more than what they command in the commercial world, and

reward

> them with further incentives based on actual performance. The

> country would still be better off than being ruled by the policies

> of present day politicians who are hell bent on frittering away the

> tax payers' money to further their own cause.

>

> Achieving such changes may be a Herculean task requiring

> Constitutional Amendments and costing money by way of referendum,

> etc. Also, the political parties will not let their hold on the

> nation and its resources go that easily.

>

> When the country is groping in the darkness and the masses are

being

> misled by the political parties, why can we not use this wonderful

> science of Vedic Astrology given to us by our ancestors as a guide

> to resolve the problems facing the country?

>

> I request all the learned members of this as well as other forums

to

> dwell on these points and pursue this thought further. May God help

> all us so that we do not fail in our duties to our motherland.

>

> With Best Regards,

> Bala S M

>

>

>

>

>

>

|brihaspatim varenyam|

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

 

 

| om gurave namah |Dear Hari

I think the mantra should have been

om dayaakaraaya namah - that means he has been kind to you yesterday

om devapujitaaya namah - means that you will be praised for your good work. And yes your writing of a book review has been under discussion at SJC and we commend you for your superb scholarship and intellectual approach...that means devapujitaaya namahBest wishes and warm regards,Sanjay RathPersonal: WebPages ¡ü Rath¡Çs Rhapsody SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center ¡ü SJCERC ¡ü JIVAPublications: The Jyotish Digest ¡ü Sagittarius Publications----

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Jyotisa ShisyaSunday, June 04, 2006 11:26 AMsohamsa Subject: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] India: the BJP's dilemma

|om|Dear Sanjay, pranaams

 

 

 

 

 

Did you notice the mantra on top of the webpages in my website http://srath.com? They change every hour. Just try to keep track of what mantra you got when you went there on a particular day and what relevance it had for you on that day.You continue to hand out such tantalizing teasers like this!!! I visited your website yesterday & today and did notice the mantras at the top of the page: yesterday - om dakaraya namah (not sure about spelling)today - om devipujitaya namahBut I am stumped as to what relevance these mantras had for me on those days! regardsHari

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Sree Guro Paahimaam

 

 

Dear Sanjay

 

Namaste. Interestingly, when I visited the website I saw the mantra " Om

Daaridryanaasaya Namah " . I hope it will work!

 

Great website again. And, its a lovely concept to have a mantra

everyday. I think the Sun- your favorite has started shining bright.

 

Best wishes

R. Kasthuri Rangan

 

 

 

Sanjay Rath wrote:

 

> | om gurave namah |

> Dear Hari

>

> I think the mantra should have been

>

> om dayaakaraaya namah - that means he has been kind to you yesterday

>

> om devapujitaaya namah - means that you will be praised for your good

> work. And yes your writing of a book review has been under discussion

> at SJC and we commend you for your superb scholarship and intellectual

> approach...that means devapujitaaya namah

> Best wishes and warm regards,

> Sanjay Rath

>

> Personal: WebPages <http://srath.com/blog/> ¡ü Rath¡Çs Rhapsody

> <http://srath.com/blog/>

> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center <http://.org/> ¡ü SJCERC

> <http://sjcerc.com/> ¡ü JIVA <http://jiva.us/>

> Publications: The Jyotish Digest <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> ¡ü

> Sagittarius Publications <http://sagittariuspublications.com/>

> ----

>

>

> ------

> ** sohamsa [sohamsa ] *On

> Behalf Of *Jyotisa Shisya

> *Sent:* Sunday, June 04, 2006 11:26 AM

> *To:* sohamsa

> *Subject:* Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] India: the BJP's dilemma

>

> |om|

> Dear Sanjay, pranaams

>

> Did you notice the mantra on top of the webpages in my website

> http://srath.com? They change every hour. Just try to keep track

> of what mantra you got when you went there on a particular day and

> what relevance it had for you on that day.

>

> You continue to hand out such tantalizing teasers like this!!! I

> visited your website yesterday & today and did notice the mantras at

> the top of the page:

>

> yesterday - om dakaraya namah (not sure about spelling)

> today - om devipujitaya namah

>

> But I am stumped as to what relevance these mantras had for me on

> those days!

>

> regards

> Hari

>

>

> |brihaspatim varenyam|

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Guruji and Jyotishas,

 

1. Because of the nodal axis, half the period will be fantastic and the rest half will be horrible. The first hald from Rahu to Ketu ends on 1 Jan 2006Are you splitting the two period's till the Dasa of Ketu?, Then the dasa start is

Merc: 2006-03-15 - 2006-12-01 Ket: 2006-12-01 - 2007-03-15So the The change will happen only after Dec of 2006, So we still have this year left. Then the current issues are due to that Mercury and Mars having parivartana, involving the 9th, Hence the radical change in policies from Open economy Policy of Manmohansingh to Reservation based policy.

I will look forward till Dec as you have said to see how the Nodes give the spin.

2. Mercury will cause many problems and the partners in-colition will form groups, especially the " green brigade " (you know what I mean), and this has already happened now with the formation of a third front with Laloo bhai and others.

Mercury is also 9th lord (higher learning) and as such rules students. So the students were agitating (Rahu joins Mercury) in this Mercury period from 15 March 2006 to 1 Dec 2006. The dates are not over and the problem is not over. The respite is temporary due to the supreme court (Jupiter-justice) and when the students see this hope vanish into thin air, they will again go to the streets. God forbid and let us hope they find the money to create those additional seats. Of course no one is bothered about the

jobs that must follow after the students get educated. Manmohan Singh understands this as he is a top notch economist but has nt said anything as yet. Let's wait and watch.SanjayP: I just want to add one of the points learnt on muhurtha here, The main dosha in the Swearing in ceremony (Other than the nodal axis), Is the Sun in 8th. The 8th showing the doshas, Here indicates the leadership in Congress govt is the biggest crisis. Also A10 being in 8th with that indicates the hidden leaders?.

Warm RegardsSanjay P

Manmohan Singh Government 5-yr chart

May 22, 2004Time: 5:32:30 pmTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 13' 00 " , 28 N 40' 00 " Delhi, India

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon 5 year compression):

Maha Dasas:

Rah: 2003-12-31 - 2004-10-02 Jup: 2004-10-02 - 2005-05-30 Sat: 2005-05-30 - 2006-03-15 Merc: 2006-03-15 - 2006-12-01 Ket: 2006-12-01 - 2007-03-15 Ven: 2007-03-15 - 2008-01-15 Sun: 2008-01-15 - 2008-04-13 Moon: 2008-04-13 - 2008-09-16 Mars: 2008-09-16 - 2008-12-30

 

 

 

Best wishes and warm regards,Sanjay Rath

[Guest guest]

|om|

Dear Sanjay P,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. Because of the nodal axis, half the period will be fantastic and the rest half will be horrible. The first hald from Rahu to Ketu ends on 1 Jan 2006

 

Are you splitting the two period's till the Dasa of Ketu?, Then the dasa start is

Merc: 2006-03-15 - 2006-12-01 Ket: 2006-12-01 - 2007-03-15[Hari] No, Sanjay is not splitting the two periods till a particular dasa; he is simply dividing the period of 5 years into two which means a period of 2.5 years or 2006-06-30, which point of time happens to fall in Mercury dasa as per Compressed Vimsottari dasa.

 

 

best regards

Hari

 

 

 

 

..

[Guest guest]

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Hari,

|om|

Dear Sanjay P,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. Because of the nodal axis, half the period will be fantastic and the rest half will be horrible. The first hald from Rahu to Ketu ends on 1 Jan 2006

 

 

Are you splitting the two period's till the Dasa of Ketu?, Then the dasa start is

Merc: 2006-03-15 - 2006-12-01

Ket: 2006-12-01 - 2007-03-15

[Hari] No, Sanjay is not splitting the two periods till a particular dasa; he is simply dividing the period of 5 years into two which means a period of 2.5 years or 2006-06-30, which point of time happens to fall in Mercury dasa as per Compressed Vimsottari dasa.

 

 

best regards

Hari

 

 

 

 

..

SanjayP: Had Guruji split it in two equal Halves, then 2.5 Years after May/22/2004, will be appx Nov/22/2006, Which date is yet to come, Where as Guruji says "

The first half from Rahu to Ketu ends on 1 Jan 2006 " . Hence I asked the clarification.BTW, I have also seen Guruji mark the point after Ketu or Rahu antardasa/dasa in Nodes ruled dasa or chart. The nodes change from bhoga marga to moksha marga or vice-versa.

Warm RegardsSanjay P

[Guest guest]

om gajakarnakaaya namah

 

Dear SanjayP,

 

Yes, with Sun in 8th house, the leader could be in for some shock,

now this also happens to be the 7th lord from AL, hence it could be

due to some other political factions who may oppose the leader! A10

in 8th house shows bad karma from the past affecting the stability

of this govt. Sun Dasa would be the dasa to look out!

 

Regards

-Narayan

 

sohamsa , " Sanjay Prabhakaran "

<sanjaychettiar wrote:

>

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

>

> Dear Hari,

>

> > |om|

> > Dear Sanjay P,

> >

> > > 1. Because of the nodal axis, half the period will be

fantastic and

> > > the rest half will be horrible. The first hald from Rahu to

Ketu ends on 1

> > > Jan 2006

> > >

> > > Are you splitting the two period's till the Dasa of Ketu?,

Then the dasa

> > > start is

> > >

> > > Merc: 2006-03-15 - 2006-12-01

> > > Ket: 2006-12-01 - 2007-03-15

> > >

> > > [Hari] No, Sanjay is not splitting the two periods till a

particular

> > > dasa; he is simply dividing the period of 5 years into two

which means a

> > > period of 2.5 years or 2006-06-30, which point of time happens

to fall

> > > in Mercury dasa as per Compressed Vimsottari dasa.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > best regards

> > Hari

> >

> > .

> > >

> >

>

> SanjayP: Had Guruji split it in two equal Halves, then 2.5 Years

after

> May/22/2004, will be appx Nov/22/2006, Which date is yet to come,

Where as

> Guruji says " The first half from Rahu to Ketu ends on 1 Jan

2006 " . Hence I

> asked the clarification.

>

> BTW, I have also seen Guruji mark the point after Ketu or Rahu

> antardasa/dasa in Nodes ruled dasa or chart. The nodes change from

bhoga

> marga to moksha marga or vice-versa.

>

>

> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P

>

[Guest guest]

vyam vyasadevaya namah

Dear Hari,

 

Could You kindly explain how to deduct which will be blue(auspicious) and which red? I mean do we consider the Sirshodaya Rasis or always the Ra-ra to Ra-ke is good and the next part is bad?

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

 

 

-

Jyotisa Shisya

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:24 PM

Re: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] India: the BJP's dilemma

 

 

 

|om|

Dear Sanjay P,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. Because of the nodal axis, half the period will be fantastic and the rest half will be horrible. The first hald from Rahu to Ketu ends on 1 Jan 2006

Are you splitting the two period's till the Dasa of Ketu?, Then the dasa start is

Merc: 2006-03-15 - 2006-12-01 Ket: 2006-12-01 - 2007-03-15[Hari] No, Sanjay is not splitting the two periods till a particular dasa; he is simply dividing the period of 5 years into two which means a period of 2.5 years or 2006-06-30, which point of time happens to fall in Mercury dasa as per Compressed Vimsottari dasa.

 

 

 

best regards

Hari

 

 

 

 

..