Puzzle about Kalam : Space-Time correlation ! (in Jyotisha)

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Gurujanas and learned members,

namaskar. I have several related questions, trying to understand the space & time correlation in jyotisha.

1. Suppose I am sitting in my office and at the the position I am located, I calculate the kalam running and find Guru kalam is running. Hence I am "experiencing" the Guru kalam, so to speak. Suppose I am talking to a person far away in a distant country located on a different latitude and longitude. Suppose he is "experiencing" Shani kalam because he is at different time of his day. Hence apparently, the kalam factor is tied to location. Now suppose I am talking to another person who is located in the same longitude as mine (and hence "experiencing" the same kalam as myself) but now the change of position latitude-wise does not affect the quality of time. Why ? Why is Kalam biased to longitude and not so to latitude ?

2. How is space-time correlated in jyotisha. Does kalachakra give such a complete paradigm ?

I would be grateful for upadesa.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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OM KRISHNA GURU

 

Dear Sourav,

The horizontal platform which turns and eclipse our mind, is Kala. I believe Kala or the horizontal platform overloaded by Rahu, while Arial direction ruled by Ketu. This gives us two directions, One is subject to Kala and other is beyond the Kala.

Kala also has many colours and these colours change our emotions with the flow. These are 8 in number, hence 8 types of directions (type of emotions ?) are eclipsing our mind. The word for "eclipse" is Grahana and we simply call it Graha. This is how 8 Grahas in Kala Chakra came to exist.

 

I hope you have some thing here for your 2nd question.

 

Best Wishes

Karu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sourav

sohamsa

Saturday, May 27, 2006 6:57 PM

Puzzle about Kalam : Space-Time correlation ! (in Jyotisha)

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Gurujanas and learned members,

namaskar. I have several related questions, trying to understand the space & time correlation in jyotisha.

1. Suppose I am sitting in my office and at the the position I am located, I calculate the kalam running and find Guru kalam is running. Hence I am "experiencing" the Guru kalam, so to speak. Suppose I am talking to a person far away in a distant country located on a different latitude and longitude. Suppose he is "experiencing" Shani kalam because he is at different time of his day. Hence apparently, the kalam factor is tied to location. Now suppose I am talking to another person who is located in the same longitude as mine (and hence "experiencing" the same kalam as myself) but now the change of position latitude-wise does not affect the quality of time. Why ? Why is Kalam biased to longitude and not so to latitude ?

2. How is space-time correlated in jyotisha. Does kalachakra give such a complete paradigm ?

I would be grateful for upadesa.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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Dear Sourav,

 

 

1) Time Zone is a factor but not the only factor to calculate the

Kalam. It will ive you the startin point of sunrise wrt GMT, thats

all.

 

2)What matters is the length of day which u will perhaps be

surprised to see depends more on Latitude than Longitude.

 

Here's the link:

http://www.xplora.org/shared/data/pdf/sunset.pdf

 

" -Places at the same latitude have the same length of night (day)

but it starts at different times in the UTC

(Universal Time Coordinated), the official world time used in flight

and military operations. It is the successor

to the former Greenwich mean time (GMT).

-Places at the same longitude have a different length of night

(day). The center of the night period however is

at the same UTC.

"

 

Thanks

 

Souvik

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Karu " <heen wrote:

>

> OM KRISHNA GURU

>

> Dear Sourav,

> The horizontal platform which turns and eclipse our mind, is Kala.

I believe Kala or the horizontal platform overloaded by Rahu, while

Arial direction ruled by Ketu. This gives us two directions, One is

subject to Kala and other is beyond the Kala.

> Kala also has many colours and these colours change our emotions

with the flow. These are 8 in number, hence 8 types of directions

(type of emotions ?) are eclipsing our mind. The word for " eclipse "

is Grahana and we simply call it Graha. This is how 8 Grahas in Kala

Chakra came to exist.

>

> I hope you have some thing here for your 2nd question.

>

> Best Wishes

> Karu

-

> Sourav

> sohamsa

> Saturday, May 27, 2006 6:57 PM

> Puzzle about Kalam : Space-Time correlation !

(in Jyotisha)

>

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Gurujanas and learned members,

>

>

namaskar. I have several related questions, trying to

understand the space & time correlation in jyotisha.

>

> 1. Suppose I am sitting in my office and at the the position I

am located, I calculate the kalam running and find Guru kalam is

running. Hence I am " experiencing " the Guru kalam, so to speak.

Suppose I am talking to a person far away in a distant country

located on a different latitude and longitude. Suppose he

is " experiencing " Shani kalam because he is at different time of his

day. Hence apparently, the kalam factor is tied to location. Now

suppose I am talking to another person who is located in the same

longitude as mine (and hence " experiencing " the same kalam as

myself) but now the change of position latitude-wise does not affect

the quality of time. Why ? Why is Kalam biased to longitude and not

so to latitude ?

>

> 2. How is space-time correlated in jyotisha. Does kalachakra

give such a complete paradigm ?

>

> I would be grateful for upadesa.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> =============================================================

>

>

>

>

> *tat savitur varenyam*

>

>

>

>

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Souvik-ji,

Namaskar. The question is why and not how ? Kalam was just an example. The quality of time is tied to place. And also to Time itself. Why ? First of all, why each graha has influence over time in that manner at the same place ? Shani is controlling time at a particular place but a few longitude degrees away it doesn't. Why ?

The fact that kalam is influenced by longitude is because of the planar nature of the solar system (of course with certain tilts of individual orbital planes).

Best wishes,

Sourav

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sohamsa , "Souvik Dutta" <explore_vulcan wrote:>> Dear Sourav,> > > 1) Time Zone is a factor but not the only factor to calculate the > Kalam. It will ive you the startin point of sunrise wrt GMT, thats > all.> > 2)What matters is the length of day which u will perhaps be > surprised to see depends more on Latitude than Longitude.> > Here's the link:> http://www.xplora.org/shared/data/pdf/sunset.pdf> > "-Places at the same latitude have the same length of night (day) > but it starts at different times in the UTC> (Universal Time Coordinated), the official world time used in flight > and military operations. It is the successor> to the former Greenwich mean time (GMT).> -Places at the same longitude have a different length of night > (day). The center of the night period however is> at the same UTC.> "> > Thanks> > Souvik> > > > > > > > sohamsa , "Karu" heen@ wrote:> >> > OM KRISHNA GURU> > > > Dear Sourav,> > The horizontal platform which turns and eclipse our mind, is Kala. > I believe Kala or the horizontal platform overloaded by Rahu, while > Arial direction ruled by Ketu. This gives us two directions, One is > subject to Kala and other is beyond the Kala.> > Kala also has many colours and these colours change our emotions > with the flow. These are 8 in number, hence 8 types of directions > (type of emotions ?) are eclipsing our mind. The word for "eclipse" > is Grahana and we simply call it Graha. This is how 8 Grahas in Kala > Chakra came to exist.> > > > I hope you have some thing here for your 2nd question. > > > > Best Wishes> > Karu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Sourav > > sohamsa > > Saturday, May 27, 2006 6:57 PM> > Puzzle about Kalam : Space-Time correlation ! > (in Jyotisha)> > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > Dear Gurujanas and learned members,> > > > > namaskar. I have several related questions, trying to > understand the space & time correlation in jyotisha. > > > > 1. Suppose I am sitting in my office and at the the position I > am located, I calculate the kalam running and find Guru kalam is > running. Hence I am "experiencing" the Guru kalam, so to speak. > Suppose I am talking to a person far away in a distant country > located on a different latitude and longitude. Suppose he > is "experiencing" Shani kalam because he is at different time of his > day. Hence apparently, the kalam factor is tied to location. Now > suppose I am talking to another person who is located in the same > longitude as mine (and hence "experiencing" the same kalam as > myself) but now the change of position latitude-wise does not affect > the quality of time. Why ? Why is Kalam biased to longitude and not > so to latitude ?> > > > 2. How is space-time correlated in jyotisha. Does kalachakra > give such a complete paradigm ?> > > > I would be grateful for upadesa.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > =============================================================> > > > > > > > > > *tat savitur varenyam* > > > > > > > >

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Namaskaar Sri SouravTime is defined as the interval between two events. On Earth it is measured by its rotation. So it is rotating from and X point on earth to the same point relative to the Sun. We call this one day. A day can be divided into many numbers for the sake of comfort which are hours, minutes, etc. In a sphere all points lying on the curved line called longitude will have the same time. The points lying along the line of a particular longitude is latitude. So they have the same time. Space and Time is related due to occurance of an event. Now, think of Uranus. It rotates on a horizontal axis. Would the latitude define time or the longitude? Also think of North Pole, what is the time there? Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 5/27/06, Sourav <

souravc108 wrote:

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Gurujanas and learned members,

namaskar. I have several related questions, trying to understand the space & time correlation in jyotisha.

1. Suppose I am sitting in my office and at the the position I am located, I calculate the kalam running and find Guru kalam is running. Hence I am " experiencing " the Guru kalam, so to speak. Suppose I am taking to a person far away in a distant country located on a different latitude and longitude. Suppose he is " experiencing " Shani kalam because he is at different time of his day. Hence apparently, the kalam factor is tied to location. Now suppose I am taking to another person who is located in the same longitude as mine (and hence " experiencing " the same kalam as myself) but now the change of position latitude-wise does not affect the quality of time. Why ? Why is Kalam biased to longitude and not so to latitude ?

 

2. How is space-time correlated in jyotisha. Does kalachakra give such a complete paradigm ?

I would be grateful for upadesa.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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*tat savitur varenyam*