Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 My dear Ajit, > Dear Narasimha, > > > True Adwaita is not about dismissing a lot of things as " mithya " > or " illusion " , but to see Brahman in those too. > > Dismissing the world around us as 'mithya' neither implies that it is > unreal, nor implies that it is not brahman (in the pAramArthika > sense). It simply identifies it as being impermanent by relegating it > to the vyAvahArika strata of reality which we all live and breathe. > > ajit Beautifully put! I am glad you are speaking in terms of various " strate of reality " ! Great. One minor note though: In this context, " dismiss " is perhaps a wrong word. A true Adwaitin neither dismisses the mithya nor embraces it. He just observes it. * * * Lakshmi garu, The original word used is " saMnyAsa " . That indeed is samyak+nyAsa. The word sannyAsa may be a modification of saMnyAsa in later days. Grammatically, sannyAsa can only be explained as sat+nyAsa. I disagree with your view on Dwaita etc corresponding to creation, sustenance and destruction. * * * Regarding another thread with Bharat: Dear Bharat, there is nothing personal here. I simply do not want to go over the minds of most people, in which case whatever I write is wasted, atleast temporarily. So I AM intentionally speaking with respect to a lower stratum of reality. You can either bear with me or simply ignore me. Though Adwaitic realization can come through introspection/chintana alone and though there are spiritual masters who achieved it through chintana alone, it is not easy. I am from Hindu religion, which has a nice hierarchical approach and I want people to take advantage of it. Arguments about words can never end, when we are essentially describing something that is beyond words, attributes and descriptions. If you say that the word " experience " implies duality (object/subject), so does the word " realization " . It implies that there is a realizer (subject), realized (object) and a realization (act). That implies duality too. After all, if I am Brahman, what is left to be realized by me? I don't need to realize anything. The problem with pedagogic discourses on Adwaita is that they do not help people who are not self-realized. I am trying to give a path, instead of just showing a target in the sky and saying " you are already there. Just realize that you are there and be done " . The path of worshipping a deity, merging with Him/Her and then merging with nirguna Brahman is not my invention. Many Maharshis and saints have done it. BTW, though the observer, observed and the act of observation all merge into one in Nirvikalpa samadhi, it is interesting to consider Sahaja samadhi - the highest Adwaitic state. In that state, the Yogi interacts with the physical world in the normal way. There is an observer, observation and observed. Yet, the Yogi sees the same Brahman in everything. It is the most interesting state to ponder upon. It is easier to model what happens in Savikalpa and Nirvikalpa samadhis, but Sahaja samadhi is a tough nut. May the light of Brahman shine within, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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