KP Ruling planets concept from Naadi - - - - KP House Grouping

February 13, 2009

Dear Punit ji and Friends,

1. That is the book " Nadi Astrology, Accurate Predictive Methodology by

Umang Taneja, First Published in 1999, Fourth Edition 2004 " .

2. In fact it is a good KP book where the significations at 3 levels of

Planet, Star Lord and Sub Lord are SIMULTANEOUSLY considered like C.K.

Bahatt and Kanak Bosmia.

3. The House Grouping from that book are incorporated in my KP House

Grouping. There are the House Grouping for DBA only, not mentioning the

cusps concerned.

4. More detailed house grouping for marriage can be found in " Astrology,

Marriage and Relationship, by the same author, 2006 " .

5. For examples, when the combination of 5 (love) ,8 (sexual organ) or

5,12 (bed comfort) is signified in the DBA, the love affairmay invole

the physical relations and bed pleasure. It is consistent with a finding

in " Progeny and Romance, 2007 " that the signification of 5,8 without

7,11 may indicate thinking of enjoying sex without marriage. In Umang

Taneja's book, like in KP Readers and C.R. Bhatt's books, it is found

that 8, 12 (ego, hurdles, quarrel, disappointment, loss of all kinds

etc) are signified with 1,6,10, it will increase the probability of

divorce. In K.M. Subramaniam's books also, 8 is in UNFAVOR of marriage.

6. It is interseting how and when 5,8 can replace 2,7,11?

7. Is there any KP astrologer considering 8 in FAVOR of marriage in the

KP latrature like Astrosecrets & KP, K.P. & Astrlogy Year Books etc?

8. My house grouping is not taking word by word from the KP Readers or

other KP latrature. For examples, the foreign settlement rule from KP

Reader VI is not mentioned because it doesn't work as per my study of

100 charts. For imprisonment, it is not strict for 12 CSL to be Rahu as

C.R. Bhatt has done because it is found many welknown prisioners like

Mahatma Gandhi, Punit Nehru, Mrs. Gandhi (even as per TOB rectified by

Guruji KSK), Nelson Mandela etc.

9. Another very important point is that in KP which based on the

signignification of house lordship and occupation of a planet, the

Karaka planet can play a supporting role only not a major role like in

Verdic. What I mean is that without 12CSL being Rahu one may be

imprisoned, if the required house grouping is signified; Venus alone

without 2,7,11 can't give marrige; Jupiter alone without 2,5,11 can give

child.

10. I need to take a break from the Group to prove that many prisoners

are not with 12 CSL Rahu on the basis of birth data of over 90 executed

prisoners and over 500 prisoners from AstroDatabank.

Thanks and regards,

tw

, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

>

> Last time when I was at the place of my favorite astrology bookseller

KK

> Goyal in Delhi, I also remember seeing a book by Umang Taneja in

English.

> The whole book was dedicated to house grouping in KP.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM, tw853 tw853 wrote:

>

> > KPEzine Oct 2007 to February 2008

> > KP House Grouping Part 1 to 5

> >

> > , Dhanabalan R r.dhanabalan@ wrote:

> > >

> > > KPEzine January 2008

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 2/12/09, sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote:

> > >

> > > sujata das sujatadash1@

> >

> > > Re: Re: KP Ruling planets concept from Naadi

> > >

> > > Thursday, February 12, 2009, 2:46 PM

> > >

> > > Dear Mr Dhanbalan and TWji,

> > > Where are the house groupings by TWji available. Putting them in

File

> > section of KP groups will be appreciated

> > > Regards

> > > Sujata

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 12/2/09, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

> > > Re: Re: KP Ruling planets concept from Naadi

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Thursday, 12 February, 2009, 3:10 PM

> > >

> > > Dear Adith

> > > My another doubt in the quiz3 is, the house 8 is also for chronic

> > diseases. 6th house is disease. If the first cuspal sublord

signifies

> > 1,6,8,12 then the native may be admitted in the hospital due to

chronic

> > disease and need not be due to accident.

> > > Another doubt is for occuring accident, the houses 4,8,12 have to

be

> > considered. Mr.TinWin has given a table " House grouping -part 4 " . In

that

> > table, whether he will met accident or not, he asked to look into

the houses

> > 8,12 mainly with 6 as supporting house. What way 6th house is

related to

> > accident? Why not he taken 4th house as supporting house for

accident?

> > > In the same table, he asked to consider houses 8,12 mainly and

houses 4,6

> > as supporting houses to arrive Dasa Bukthi Antharam for accident.

Why he

> > included the houses 4, 6 here?

> > > Dhanabalan

> > > --- On Thu, 2/12/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@

gmail.com>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

> > > Re: Re: KP Ruling planets concept from Naadi

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Thursday, February 12, 2009, 9:14 AM

> > >

> > > Dear Dhanabalan,

> > >

> > > We dont have such answers also for Sun is weaker than nodes in

this case.

> > Here we have the example with the result. Also the strength does not

depend

> > just as Nodes or the Planets. As you know many points to be

considered.

> > >

> > > Also in this case , as first cum first. Sun has come first as dasa

Lord

> > prior to Nodes .

> > >

> > > For instance , if I have not given the Sub as Dasa lord and asked

the

> > question " when he will meet with accidents in his life time? " , then

the

> > answer will be quite different. Many answers would have come. But

may be

> > some would have not chosen Sun dasa also.

> > > So how to do the correct predictions? Here we have the answer,from

which

> > why cant we try to find some points which we might have missed also.

Thats

> > my opinion only to my my little knowledge.

> > >

> > > Dear Dhanabalanji, I do respect your expertise. Also you

consistent

> > questions on the results is always good to make the importance of

such

> > points embedded in the minds. Definitely your queries are valuable.

> > >

> > > I duly appreciate your thoughts!

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Adith

> > >

> > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@

>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Adith

> > > I want supporting evidence in KP Readers that Sun is stronger than

> > Rahu/Ketu.

> > > Dhanabalan

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 2/12/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@

gmail.com>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

> > >

> > > Re: Re: KP Ruling planets concept from Naadi

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Thursday, February 12, 2009, 6:57 AM

> > >

> > > Dear Ramani ji

> > >

> > > I do agree with your statement of Nodes replacing the signlord

they

> > occupy.And they are capable of giving the qualities of the planets

which

> > aspect them. Also as I have said why dont we think of the any

importance of

> > the Sun being star lord of 4 and 8 th cusps??.Though Ketu is in Sun

star.

> > Ketu is with close conjucntion with Sun itself. Having all these

qualities

> > would have caused Sun to give the result??

> > >

> > > Also both Mercury and Sat are in Sat sub. Hence Sat is not dropped

??

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Adith

> > >

> > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Ramani <kadavasalramani@

gmail.com>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Dhanabalan,

> > >

> > > As I have said in my previous mail, it is Dr.Kar's theory of

> > > substitution of nodes for planets. I am not aware whether this is

the

> > finding of KSK. Planets aspecting node will give the aspected

planet's

> > qualities to the nodes and not vice versa. As Saturn is quite strong

here

> > being placed in 8th sign, place of accident along with its star lord

Mars,

> > karaka for accident is very strong with additional portfolio of

Lagna

> > signification, which is essential for accidents, I am not for

dropping

> > Saturn for Rahu. As regards to Mercury, sign lord in which the node

is

> > placed is Agent of Mercury and Mercury can be replaced for Rahu.

This has

> > been emphasised by late Dri K.S.K. strongly to include nodes in

place of

> > planets while selecting Ruling Planets and also while scrutinizing

the

> > Planets. As such inclusion of Rahu for Mercury and dropping the

later is in

> > accordance with

> > > Guruji's advice.

> > > While discussing about the main Dasa lord Sun, Kethu is in close

> > conjunction with Sun. Kethu is burnt with the rays of Sun, it

loosss

> > whatever strength he has and the Sun emerges as strong. Hence Sun

as prime

> > Dasa lord is

> > > quite in order.

> > >

> > > ..With best wishes,

> > >

> > > K.S.V.Ramani. .

> > >

> > > -

> > > Dhanabalan R

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com

> > >

> > > Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:05 PM

> > > Re: Re: KP Ruling planets concept from Naadi

> > >

> > > Dear Ramani

> > > Mercury has no planet in its star. So Mercury is stronger. Why the

> > Mercury was dropped?

> > > Saturn has no planet in its star. Why Saturn was not dropped?

> > > Dhanabalan

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

> > >

> > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>

> > > Re: Re: KP Ruling planets concept from Naadi

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 3:53 PM

> > >

> > > Dear Dhanabalan,

> > >

> > > Among the two nodes Rahu and Kethu (Head & Tail of snake demonin

Purana),

> > Kethu is weaker than Rahu in strength according to traditional

astrology. I

> > am unable to

> > > quote the reference. Similarly, the aspects of node are not

considered in

> > K..P, though some use the aspects of 5th, 9th and 12th attributed to

them.

> > But other planets' aspecton them qill be there. It is only in

Dr.K.R.Kar's

> > sub sub theory, the theory of substitution for nodes have been

> > > introduced replacing the planet aspecting by the node.

> > > In the quiz 3, Rahu;s aspect on Sun need not be considered. Sun

though in

> > conjunction with Kethu is strong

> > > by its own constellation and he is in the sub of Mars in

> > > whoose steps Kethu is supposed to follow (Kujawat Kethu)

> > > In view of this Sun can be considered as prime Dasa lord,

> > > as it is the earliest Dasa concerning with all the relevant

> > > houses of accident and hospitalisation etc.

> > >

> > > With best wishes,

> > >

> > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > >

> > > I a

> > >

> > > -

> > > Dhanabalan R

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:41 PM

> > > Re: Re: KP Ruling planets concept from Naadi

> > >

> > > Dear Ramani

> > > Sun may be in its own star but rapt conjunction with Ketu. So Ketu

> > represents Sun. Ketu will give the result of Sun. The Sun has to be

dropped

> > from the sugnificator list. Is there any exemption?

> > > Saturn aspects Rahu. Rahu represents Saturn. The Saturn has to be

> > dropped from the significator list. Is there any exemption?

> > > Dhanabalan

> > > --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

> > >

> > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>

> > > Re: Re: KP Ruling planets concept from Naadi

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 11:34 AM

> > >

> > > Dear Sri Dhanabalan,

> > >

> > > My observation is that the native was born in Kethu Dasa

> > > balance left was only few days. When we look tor lagna

> > > cusp for longevity, it is Rahu in the star of Jupiter at 9, lord

of 11th

> > and 12th Bhavam. Rahu is aspected strongly by the Karaka for Ayul

Saturn and

> > Rahu is not involved either with

> > > Bhadhaka or Maraka. Hence longevity is fairly good.

> > > Next Venus Dasa too has no strong connection with Maraka or

Bhadhaka,

> > though he is in the star of Moon, 7th lord, but feeble in strength,

as Moon

> > is not strong for 7th. So Venus is also ruled out as she is not

significator

> > of 8th

> > > too as 2 malefic planets are placed in 8th. Venus is S/L of 4th &

11th

> > (not an evil house). Next to Venus Dasa, Sun comes in the picture.

Sun is

> > in his own star fairly strong.

> > > Sun with his own star (equivalent to self strength) is Star lord

of 4th,

> > 8th and 12th all the houses for accident.

> > > Sun is in the sub of Mars in 8tth (accident house) associatd with

another

> > natural malefic Saturrn lord of

> > > Lagna having connection to both 1 and 8th, being in his own sub.

Thus S/L

> > of Sun, Mars is strongly connected to

> > > 1 and 8th houses required for causing severe accident.

> > > Hence Sun Dasa is justified. Moreover, it is the earliest

> > > Dasa lord (Prime Minister) coming earlier than the other

> > > evil dasas of Mars, Saturn, Mercury etc.

> > >

> > > Thanking you for your sharing your obstacle with me.

> > >

> > > With best wishes,

> > >

> > > K.S.V.Ramani .

> > >

> > > -

> > > Dhanabalan R

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:06 PM

> > > Re: Re: KP Ruling planets concept from Naadi

> > >

> > > Dear Ramani

> > > I have tried this quiz3 according to KP but got struck. I request

> > somebody to guide me and correct me to proceed.

> > >

> > > For accident: For DBA, houses to be considered 8,12,(6), (4) as

per

> > TinWinJi

> > >

> > > House

> > >

> > > Planets in the sub of planets occupied

> > >

> > > Planets in the star of planets occupied

> > >

> > > Planets occupied

> > >

> > > Planets in the sub of house lord

> > >

> > > Planets in the star of house lord

> > >

> > > House lord

> > >

> > > 8

> > >

> > > Mer, Sat, Sun, Ketu

> > >

> > > Sat

> > >

> > > Mar,Sat

> > >

> > > Moon, Mars, Jup

> > >

> > > Mer

> > >

> > > 12

> > >

> > > Rahu, Moon, Mars, Jup,

> > >

> > > Sun, Ketu, Moon,

> > >

> > > Sun, Mer, Ven, Ketu

> > >

> > > Rahu

> > >

> > > Jup

> > >

> > > (6)

> > >

> > > Ven

> > >

> > > Jup,

> > >

> > > Rahu

> > >

> > > Moon, Mars, Jup

> > >

> > > Mer

> > >

> > > (4)

> > >

> > > Venus

> > >

> > > Strong significators for

> > > House 8: Mer, Sat, Sun, Ketu

> > > House 12: Rahu, Moon, Mars, Jup,

> > > House 6: Venus

> > > House 4: Venus

> > > Planets close to the Cusp 6 within 3 degrees: Rahu

> > > Planets close to the Cusp 12 within 3 degrees: Ketu, Sun

> > > Saturn aspecting Rahu within 3 degrees

> > > Sun is aspecting Rahu within 3 degrees

> > > Sun and Ketu are in rapt conjunction

> > > Badhaka lord:Mars. Saturn is in Mars star. Sun and Ketu are in

Mars sub

> > > Maraka lord: Saturn/Jupiter, Moon. Mars and Mercury are in Moon

star.

> > Mercury and Saturn are in Saturn sub. Rahu is in Jupiter star

> > >

> > > Mer,Sat,Sun, Ketu,Rahu, Moon,Mar, Jup,Ven(All the nine planets

have come

> > as significators)

> > > In the normal practice,

> > > Rahu represents mercury. So I eliminated Mercury

> > > Ketu represents Jupiter. So I eliminated Jupiter

> > > Rahu represents Saturn. So I eliminated Saturn

> > > Ketu represents Sun. So I should have eliminated Sun also. But it

is

> > told that the accident happened in Sun dasa. Here I got struck.

> > >

> > > Significators are: Ketu,Rahu,Moon, Mars,Venus

> > >

> > > Ruling planets on 9-2-2009 at 17.47.35 PM in Vennandur, near Salem

> > > Day lord :Moon

> > > Rasi lord :Moon

> > > Rasi star :Mercury

> > > Lagna lord :Moon

> > > Lagna star :Mercury

> > >

> > > Moon aspects sun(opposition)

> > >

> > > Sun,Moon,Mercury are in RP. But Mercury and Sun are not in

significator

> > list. So I eliminated Mercury and Sun. Remaining common planet is

Moon only.

> >

> > > To pinpoint the event, I need 3 significators. So I have included

lagna

> > sublord and moon sublord in the RP list.

> > > Lagna sublord :Venus

> > > Moon Sublord :Rahu

> > > Common planets are :Moon,Venus and Rahu

> > > Dasa period is combination of Moon,Venus and Rahu.

> > > Dhanabalan

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

> > >

> > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>

> > > Re: Re: KP Ruling planets concept from Naadi

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 7:07 AM

> > >

> > > Dear Sri Dhanabalanji,

> > >

> > > My desie is also same as yours. Most seniors, who are considered

as

> > authentic and authoritative in the field may feel the quiz programme

as

> > childish and it is below their

> > > dignity to partake.. Professional astrologers may feel that their

> > reputation will affect, if the answer given by them.goes wrong.

Majority

> > of beginners may feel shy to participate due to their ignorance or

for study

> > and understanding of astrology. In the absence of such majority

members,

> > only few members who have fair

> > > knowledge and study and who are really interested to

> > > improve their ability to gain practical experience will come

> > > forward to answer the quiz. Such numbers may be a dozen are

slightly

> > more. My suggestion is the quiz master should put about 6 simple

questions

> > daily and gradually increasing the standard. He may give the

answers to

> > the quiz next day. This w ill help a lot for beginners and

interested

> > persons to gain experience. In the mean time

> > > the quiz like 1 to 3 so far conducted may be continued

> > > giving 1 week time for solution. By this way, the debate will

> > > be lively and at the same time acquire more knowlege by

> > > way of discussion with members. I wish that you should

> > > initiate this with your abundant knowledge.

> > >

> > > With best wishes,

> > >

> > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > >

> > > goes wrong. -

> > > Dhanabalan R

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:44 AM

> > > Re: Re: KP Ruling planets concept from Naadi

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskarji

> > > If experienced astrologers are participating and sharing in the

quiz, it

> > would be more lively and useful to other members. Because I read so

many

> > books, books confused me. I hope this quiz program will guide me.

> > > Dhanabalan

> > >

> > > --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>

> > > Re: KP Ruling planets concept from Naadi

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 5:12 PM

> > >

> > > Dear Dhanabalanji,

> > > Such responses to those who have not participated in the Quiz,

would

> > prove to be a deterrant and aversion to further members from

participating

> > in the quiz.

> > > Participation in the quiz is unot a measure or scale of

measurement or

> > yardstick to judge whether one knows KP or not.

> > > There could be many reasons for one not participating, including

lack of

> > time, other pre-occupations, some bad memories associated with cases

such as

> > accidents, a feeling of imcompetency, suspicions of the quiz being

> > fabricated to downsize certain astrologers , not wishing failures,

> > embarassment at the prospects of not arriving at the clear answer,

and so

> > many other such reasons looming , from individual to individual.

Which

> > reason is linked to which astrologer, we are not anyone to judge.

> > > You seem to be a knowledgable person. Shri Raoji is a elderly

person and

> > they must be allowed their eccentricities if any , dont you think ?

After

> > all he has proved himself over and over again on innumerable

occasions that

> > he is knowledgable in KP. He does not require certificates from

passing in

> > Quizzes. Or does he ?

> > > Indian culture teaches us to respect Gnana(Knowledge) and Umra

(Age) both

> > which Shri Rao Sahab possesses.

> > > Please take this positively.

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@

....>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear L.Y.Rao

> > > > If you understand the KP correctly, why cant you participate in

the

> > quiz?

> > > > Dhanabalan

> > > >

> > > > --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@ . wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@ .

> > > > Re: Re: KP Ruling planets concept from

Naadi

> > > > @gro ups.com, " Tin Win " tw853@

> > > > Cc: " Punit Pandey " punitp@

> > > > Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 8:11 AM

> > > >

> > > > Dears TW & Punit,

> > > > I just cannot comprehend as to just

what

> > people like Dhanabalan et al,are trying to prove...

> > > > Krishnamurthi Padhdhati clearly

says that

> > KSK derived inspiration from Nadi Astrology... the name of the Nadi

is also

> > given by him...

> > > > But what is the hullabuloo about ?

Does

> > it matter as to from which Nadi KSK derived his Padhdhati...

> > > > Unless of course, the objective

seems to

> > be, to prove how knowledgeable one is...about the history of the

development

> > of K.P.(FULL STOP)...

> > > > What is more important,to my mind,

is the

> > useful application of K.P., to practical prognosis... and not

wasting the

> > groups' time over fruitless discussuions and semantics about who

discovered

> > what,when,how, borrowed this knowledge from where and whom ?...and

for

> > example,raising Newton's theory even ater the Quantum theory has now

taken

> > over...and in time to come many more theories are bound to be be

> > discovered.. .

> > > > Improvements in the existing

Padhdhati in

> > order to enable it to deliver more accurate results should be the

objective

> > of all inquiring students of astrology.

> > > > I hope more and more students of

astrology

> > curb their desire for instant fame... or even notoriety just to draw

> > attention towards themselves.. . .

> > > > I am sure that you both and Kanak

Bosmia

> > certainly believe likewise...

> > > > With kind regards,

> > > > L.Y..Rao.

> > > > GOOD

LUCK !

> > > >

> > > > tw853 tw853 >

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Tuesday, 10 February, 2009 10:38:16 AM

> > > > Re: KP Ruling planets concept from Naadi

> > > >

> > > > Dear Punit ji, Dhanabalan ji,

> > > >

> > > > 1. It seems Dhanabalan ji has switched from Brihat Jatak to

Satya Jatak

> > and Punit ji prefers Brihat Jatak..

> > > >

> > > > 2. Dr. Satya Prakash Choudhary has given two posibilities. First

one is

> > similarity to Satya Jatak and second one is as follows:

> > > >

> > > > Krishnamurthi himself doesn't tell where he got the idea of

Ruling

> > planets from. But other astrologers who interacted with him, suggest

that he

> > got the idea from his researches on prenatal epoch, that certain

ruling

> > planets of the prenatal epoch, become ruling planets at the birth

time, and

> > also dominate the individual's life.

> > > >

> > > > 3. This second one seems getting the idea of connection between

the

> > planets ruling at birth and at the moment of major life events from

Brihat

> > Jatak..

> > > >

> > > > 4. Such kind of connection idea is not found in Satya Jatak as

> > mentioned by Punit ji, but some similar RPs are mentioned in sloka

6:

> > > >

> > > > 6. The fortunes of a native are to be studied with reference to:

> > > > (1) the ascendant lord; (2) the lord of the ascendant in the

navamsa

> > diagram (3)The lord of the birth star; and (4) the lords of the

rasis

> > occupied by the above three.

> > > >

> > > > 5. In sloka 7, it is said to choose the birth star, Moon or

Lagna,

> > whichever is stronger.

> > > >

> > > > 7. Birth-star : Consider the strengths of the Moon and the

ascendant.

> > If the ascendant is Stronger than the Moon, the lord of the star in

which

> > the ascendant falls, is to be taken as the birth star. If, on the

other

> > hand, the Moon is stronger than the ascendant, the lord of the star

in which

> > it is posited is to be taken as the birth star......

> > > >

> > > > 6. The birth time to take is mentioned in sloka 5:

> > > >

> > > > 5. There are three different moments which can be taken as the

tune of

> > birth and for which the horoscope can be cast. These are(1) Adhana

lagna

> > i.e. the moment of conception. (2) Siro-darshma lagna i.e., the

moment at

> > which the head of the child is first sighted. (3) Bhupatana 1agnathe

moment

> > at which the child leaves the body of the mother and touches the

earth.. As

> > it is difficult to determine the first two moments accurately, the

third one

> > should be taken for preparing the horoscope

> > > >

> > > > 7. In Satya Jatak there are similar RPs and the idea of taking

Moon or

> > Lagna, whichever is stronger (which Guru ji KSK had used at early

stage) and

> > in Brihat Jatak, idea of connection between but similar RPs.

> > > >

> > > > 8. Therefore in my opinion, it is possible that the RPs are the

> > combined idea of both Brihat Jatak and Satya Jatak, whatever

Dhanabalan ji

> > may call.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > > @gro ups.com, " Punit Pandey " punitp@

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Dhanabalan ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > The quoted text seems a little misleading to me. What

Satyacharya

> > said

> > > > > in " Satya Jatak " that these planets should be used for

determining

> > the

> > > > > destiny (or may be general nativity by common interpretation)

.. In

> > > > > " Satya Jatak " , I don't find " determination of any moment "

using these

> > > > > planets. " Satya Jatak " deesn't talk about rectification or

horary

> > > > > astrology, as far as I know.

> > > > >

> > > > > The application of ruling planets came, I believe, from

" Brihat

> > Jatak "

> > > > > of Varahmihira where Varahamihira told that there is

connection

> > > > > between the planets ruling the moment of question and planets

ruling

> > > > > the moment of birth. It seems that Shri KSK improvised upon

the ideas

> > > > > taken from these two texts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, from the Hindi edition of " Jatak Satyacharya " ,

following are

> > the

> > > > > planets for judging destiny of a native -

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Lord of Ascendant Sign

> > > > > 2. Lord of Ascendant Navamsa

> > > > > 3. Lord of Ascendant or Moon Nakshatra (whichever is powerful)

> > > > > 4. Lord of the signs where are all above planets are located

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > >

> > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R

r.dhanabalan@wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Punitji

> > > > > > Please go through the article " Ruling planets " by Dr.Satya

Prakash

> > > > > Choudry. He stated that the RP concept is Naadi concept. I am

> > > > > reproducing the sentences, " The determinants of any moment

according

> > > > > to the sage are:

> > > > > > * Birth lagna (ascendant lord) lord

> > > > > > * Moon or lagna star lord (whichever is stronger)

> > > > > > * Moon signlord

> > > > > > * Navamsa lagna lord

> > > > > > * Lord of rasi (in the rasi chart) occupied by the Navamsa

lagna

> > lord

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mr.KSK has taken both starlord of moon and lagna. He has

taken

> > > > > daylord instead of Navamsa lagna lord. It is what I told you

already

> > > > > as japanese style.

> > > > > > Dhanabalan

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > >

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> > >

> >

>

February 14, 2009

Dear Tw ji,1. I am not referring " Nadi Astrology, Accurate Predictive Methodology by Umang Taneja. " There is another book by him and the whole book is dedicated to house grouping only, as far as I remember. I'll find out the name and post in the forum.

2. Is Punit Nehru a typo?3. Wish you all the best for your study on prisoners. Wish to see the results soon. Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 12:53 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: