Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Dear Bhaskar-ji/respected members, I am a KP student. I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group too. In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chart there is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to see if it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one. However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BT Recitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or not by casting teh Time chart? Please do let me know your views. Regards, Souvik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Dear Souvik ji. I am sorry, I am not quite clear with the query. 1) Before the start of the analysis if you wish to know whether the Query is genuine or not, you have to check the Moons positions which reflects the querists mind. You also have to check the position of the planets, Saturn and Mars, vis a vis the 7th Cusp. 2) Apart from above, there is commonsense to be used to answer the queries. One must not answer queries related to " How much is my age " ( Unless a person is in a serious condition), " Whether I will pass my exams ( Unless he has already sat for the eaxms) " or whether I should marry this girl ( If he is engaged to the girl then no sense now checking this)etc.etc. 3) Now coming to your query in BTR, BTR is again based on the RP's and RP's are nothing but the Lagna at the moment of judgement and the other pointers, so if you check the chart of the RP's vis a vis the first point above, and find conditions pointing to a faulty query, then you may not proceed. 4) There are other queries too which must be given due consideration before you proceed to check the results, for example a daughter in law asking about her father in laws health. This may be actually finding out by her how much he will live so that they can unsurp the property, or if you tell that he is going to live long, then she may not serve her father in law properly thinking that he may live long. So think well before such enquiries are entertained. You may read a very good book by DP Saxena on Horary Astrology for such pointers. regards/Bhaskar. , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar-ji/respected members, > > I am a KP student. > > I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum > but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group > too. > > In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chart > there is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to see > if it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one. > > However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BT > Recitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or not > by casting teh Time chart? > > Please do let me know your views. > > Regards, > > Souvik > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Hi Souvik,You may read Shri Abhijit Lahiri's views regarding proceeding with BTR at a particular moment or not. His article is published in one of the KPEzine. If you cannot find it, let me know. However, these are his views. I am sure others on the forum will offer their comments too.RegardsSunil Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:34:06 PM BT Recification Time chart question Dear Bhaskar-ji/respecte d members,I am a KP student.I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group too.In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chartthere is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to seeif it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one.However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BTRecitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or notby casting teh Time chart?Please do let me know your views.Regards,Souvik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Dear Souvik ji,There is no such method documented in KP literature, as far as I know. Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21 wrote: Hi Souvik,You may read Shri Abhijit Lahiri's views regarding proceeding with BTR at a particular moment or not. His article is published in one of the KPEzine. If you cannot find it, let me know. However, these are his views. I am sure others on the forum will offer their comments too. RegardsSunil Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan Friday, February 13, 2009 6:34:06 PM BT Recification Time chart question Dear Bhaskar-ji/respecte d members,I am a KP student.I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group too.In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chartthere is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to seeif it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one. However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BTRecitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or notby casting teh Time chart?Please do let me know your views.Regards, Souvik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Dear Sunil Sharma Generally Mr.TinWin analyse the concept with Astrodata bank with the help of Mr.Rangarajan. I do not know his rating. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21 wrote: Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21Re: BT Recification Time chart question Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 7:04 AM Hi Souvik,You may read Shri Abhijit Lahiri's views regarding proceeding with BTR at a particular moment or not. His article is published in one of the KPEzine. If you cannot find it, let me know. However, these are his views. I am sure others on the forum will offer their comments too.RegardsSunil Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@ >@gro ups.comFriday, February 13, 2009 6:34:06 PM BT Recification Time chart question Dear Bhaskar-ji/respecte d members,I am a KP student.I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group too.In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chartthere is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to seeif it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one.However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BTRecitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or notby casting teh Time chart?Please do let me know your views.Regards,Souvik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Dear Punitji Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna. Mr.Bhaskaran has used this concept and formulated a method to rectify the birth time. He published a book "K.B.'s Ruling planets and Birth time". Mr.Abhijit Lahiri has written article in KPEzine in the year 2007. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: BT Recification Time chart question Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 7:08 AM Dear Souvik ji,There is no such method documented in KP literature, as far as I know. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote: Hi Souvik,You may read Shri Abhijit Lahiri's views regarding proceeding with BTR at a particular moment or not. His article is published in one of the KPEzine. If you cannot find it, let me know. However, these are his views. I am sure others on the forum will offer their comments too.RegardsSunil Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@ >@gro ups.comFriday, February 13, 2009 6:34:06 PM BT Recification Time chart question Dear Bhaskar-ji/respecte d members, I am a KP student.I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group too.In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chartthere is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to seeif it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one.However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BTRecitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or notby casting teh Time chart?Please do let me know your views.Regards,Souvik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Dear Dhanabalan ji,You mentioned that Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna. " Can you please quote the reference. This is not to question it but to know the referenc.e I have seen KP astrologers using it often, but I didn't find it working and that is the reason I just wonder whether Shri KSK said it. Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dear Punitji Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna. Mr.Bhaskaran has used this concept and formulated a method to rectify the birth time. He published a book " K.B.'s Ruling planets and Birth time " . Mr.Abhijit Lahiri has written article in KPEzine in the year 2007. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: BT Recification Time chart question Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 7:08 AM Dear Souvik ji,There is no such method documented in KP literature, as far as I know. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote: Hi Souvik,You may read Shri Abhijit Lahiri's views regarding proceeding with BTR at a particular moment or not. His article is published in one of the KPEzine. If you cannot find it, let me know. However, these are his views. I am sure others on the forum will offer their comments too. RegardsSunil Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@ >@gro ups.com Friday, February 13, 2009 6:34:06 PM BT Recification Time chart question Dear Bhaskar-ji/respecte d members, I am a KP student.I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group too.In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chart there is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to seeif it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one.However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BTRecitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or not by casting teh Time chart?Please do let me know your views.Regards,Souvik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Dear Punitji It is pre natal epoch theory(Hindu system) In Page ix of KP Reader V of 2004 edition. In page 182 and 202 of Mr.Mohankumar’s book “MK’s Predictive Techniques in KP Astrology”, Mohankumar said that it is Mr.KSK’s statement. If I found any further reference, I will inform you.Dhanabalan --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: BT Recification Time chart question Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 2:35 PM Dear Dhanabalan ji,You mentioned that Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna." Can you please quote the reference. This is not to question it but to know the referenc.e I have seen KP astrologers using it often, but I didn't find it working and that is the reason I just wonder whether Shri KSK said it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Punitji Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna. Mr.Bhaskaran has used this concept and formulated a method to rectify the birth time. He published a book "K.B.'s Ruling planets and Birth time". Mr.Abhijit Lahiri has written article in KPEzine in the year 2007. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: BT Recification Time chart question @gro ups.comSunday, February 15, 2009, 7:08 AM Dear Souvik ji,There is no such method documented in KP literature, as far as I know. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote: Hi Souvik,You may read Shri Abhijit Lahiri's views regarding proceeding with BTR at a particular moment or not. His article is published in one of the KPEzine. If you cannot find it, let me know. However, these are his views. I am sure others on the forum will offer their comments too.RegardsSunil Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@ >@gro ups.com Friday, February 13, 2009 6:34:06 PM BT Recification Time chart question Dear Bhaskar-ji/respecte d members, I am a KP student.I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group too.In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chartthere is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to seeif it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one.However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BTRecitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or notby casting teh Time chart?Please do let me know your views.Regards,Souvik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Punitji I did not find any reference in KP Readers. I do not know how Mr.Mohankumar stated that it is the statement of Mr.KSK. It is a pre-natal-epoch (Hindu astrology) theory. Mr.KSK tested this theory and found not correct. "It seems that I misguided you that it is Mr.KSK's concept." In the KP Readers also, it is mentioned that the success rate of pre-natal-epoch theory is only 50%. I also tested the pre-natal-epoch theory in my own case in the way Mr.KSK explained in KP Reader III but I did not get the result. Whereas, Mr.Bhaskaran used that theory to rectify the time. I did not try Mr.Bhaskaran's method since Mr.KSK rejected the Pre natal epoch theory. Still the articles are published in KPEzine based on Mr.Bhaskaran's method. For birth time rectification, the astrologer can ask a number between 1 and 249 from the client. The Horary lagna sign, lagna star and lagna sub should also come as Ruling Planets. It is Mr.Sattainathan's method. Dhanabalan --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: BT Recification Time chart question Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 2:35 PM Dear Dhanabalan ji,You mentioned that Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna." Can you please quote the reference. This is not to question it but to know the referenc.e I have seen KP astrologers using it often, but I didn't find it working and that is the reason I just wonder whether Shri KSK said it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Punitji Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna. Mr.Bhaskaran has used this concept and formulated a method to rectify the birth time. He published a book "K.B.'s Ruling planets and Birth time". Mr.Abhijit Lahiri has written article in KPEzine in the year 2007. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: BT Recification Time chart question @gro ups.comSunday, February 15, 2009, 7:08 AM Dear Souvik ji,There is no such method documented in KP literature, as far as I know. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote: Hi Souvik,You may read Shri Abhijit Lahiri's views regarding proceeding with BTR at a particular moment or not. His article is published in one of the KPEzine. If you cannot find it, let me know. However, these are his views. I am sure others on the forum will offer their comments too.RegardsSunil Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@ >@gro ups.com Friday, February 13, 2009 6:34:06 PM BT Recification Time chart question Dear Bhaskar-ji/respecte d members, I am a KP student.I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group too.In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chartthere is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to seeif it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one.However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BTRecitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or notby casting teh Time chart?Please do let me know your views.Regards,Souvik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Dhanabalan ji,I suspected so. It never worked for me. Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dear Punitji I did not find any reference in KP Readers. I do not know how Mr.Mohankumar stated that it is the statement of Mr.KSK. It is a pre-natal-epoch (Hindu astrology) theory. Mr.KSK tested this theory and found not correct. " It seems that I misguided you that it is Mr.KSK's concept. " In the KP Readers also, it is mentioned that the success rate of pre-natal-epoch theory is only 50%. I also tested the pre-natal-epoch theory in my own case in the way Mr.KSK explained in KP Reader III but I did not get the result. Whereas, Mr.Bhaskaran used that theory to rectify the time. I did not try Mr.Bhaskaran's method since Mr.KSK rejected the Pre natal epoch theory. Still the articles are published in KPEzine based on Mr.Bhaskaran's method. For birth time rectification, the astrologer can ask a number between 1 and 249 from the client. The Horary lagna sign, lagna star and lagna sub should also come as Ruling Planets. It is Mr.Sattainathan's method. Dhanabalan --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: BT Recification Time chart question Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 2:35 PM Dear Dhanabalan ji,You mentioned that Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna. " Can you please quote the reference. This is not to question it but to know the referenc.e I have seen KP astrologers using it often, but I didn't find it working and that is the reason I just wonder whether Shri KSK said it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Punitji Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna. Mr.Bhaskaran has used this concept and formulated a method to rectify the birth time. He published a book " K.B.'s Ruling planets and Birth time " . Mr.Abhijit Lahiri has written article in KPEzine in the year 2007. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: BT Recification Time chart question @gro ups.comSunday, February 15, 2009, 7:08 AM Dear Souvik ji,There is no such method documented in KP literature, as far as I know. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote: Hi Souvik,You may read Shri Abhijit Lahiri's views regarding proceeding with BTR at a particular moment or not. His article is published in one of the KPEzine. If you cannot find it, let me know. However, these are his views. I am sure others on the forum will offer their comments too. RegardsSunil Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@ >@gro ups.com Friday, February 13, 2009 6:34:06 PM BT Recification Time chart question Dear Bhaskar-ji/respecte d members, I am a KP student.I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group too.In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chart there is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to seeif it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one.However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BTRecitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or not by casting teh Time chart?Please do let me know your views.Regards,Souvik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna Dear punit ji & friends on list, On the contrary , In rectification of Birth time of Indira Gandhi PROF KSK relied on prenatal epoch theory.A & A carried article penned by him,as I have quoted often( July 1971) "Hence time of Epoch should be between 5-35 AM and 5-37 AM on 8-Feb. 1917.Therefore , Moon on the day of epoch should d be between 27 Leo 56 to 27 Leo 56 sayan.If this part is of the zodiac is to rise in the east on the day of birth at Allahabad the time of birth should be 11-44-34 LMT PM on Nov 1917. According to Krishna murti padhdhati 11-39-16 PM and 3 Leo 42 Ascendants is obtained , as pe prenatal epoch the position of Ascendant is 5 Leo 19 .As Leo rises at 11-25 PM , on the day, for Allahabad and her birth is after 11-25, her lagan MUST BE LEO. No other word. PROF KSK took Rectification Of BT at Delhi on may 1971 at 13 08 IST. Just for reference: According to Krishna murti padhaadhati ,The ruling planets at the time of judgment are SUN , the lord of sign in which the asc is , Moon in Makam Star ruled by ketu in leo and day is ruled by Moon. Therefore it should be only Sun sign,Ketu star and Moon sub. [For confirmation HE uses Pre natal theory. In it he shows how it applies to Birth of Indira gandhi case.] If we remember This article was written around may 1971 at the peak of his career and at fag end of his stay on this planet and on basis of conclusions arrived after use of PNE,In this article He explained about a dozen of life events by applying KP. He wanted permission to predict, but destiny desired something else. Therefore Conclusion that KP readers contain truth of KP in unadulterated form need revaluation. I am posting excerpts to intimate , just that 1.Prof KSK did not reject PNE out right.He relied to the extent it was desirable.To talk convincgly that Indira gandhi was not Cancer lagan born was a difficult task at that time because most astrologer believed she was Cancer lagan born.He used PNE to select LEO after Rectification by RP. 2 It is perhaps in archive that Nehru was in jail when Indira was born and he wrote letter from jail to pundit to make horoscope that was later rejected by HIM.So BT was not likly to be accurate and needed correction. 3 People believe PNE was given by Western Astrologer.This is absurd.They will change their thinking if they read what scripture has to say about PNE. I am not advocating use of PNE for rectification for I am not using myself, but what I mean here is correct information to elite on this list. with regards. OM TATSATR.C.Srivastava.[Astrologer ] www.cosmograce.com www.cosmograce.blogspot.com. MMIG 199, Gurukripa Shaheed Nagar AGRA 282001, India, Phones 9412268768. USA +1-(202)-884-9075 ------------------------" we meditate on the adorable effulgence of the lord who creates everything, so it may energize our consciousness."-- - Punit Pandey Monday, February 16, 2009 10:02 AM Re: BT Recification Time chart question Dear Dhanabalan ji,I suspected so. It never worked for me. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan > wrote: Dear Punitji I did not find any reference in KP Readers. I do not know how Mr.Mohankumar stated that it is the statement of Mr.KSK. It is a pre-natal-epoch (Hindu astrology) theory. Mr.KSK tested this theory and found not correct. "It seems that I misguided you that it is Mr.KSK's concept." In the KP Readers also, it is mentioned that the success rate of pre-natal-epoch theory is only 50%. I also tested the pre-natal-epoch theory in my own case in the way Mr.KSK explained in KP Reader III but I did not get the result. Whereas, Mr.Bhaskaran used that theory to rectify the time. I did not try Mr.Bhaskaran's method since Mr.KSK rejected the Pre natal epoch theory. Still the articles are published in KPEzine based on Mr.Bhaskaran's method. For birth time rectification, the astrologer can ask a number between 1 and 249 from the client. The Horary lagna sign, lagna star and lagna sub should also come as Ruling Planets. It is Mr.Sattainathan's method. Dhanabalan --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp > wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp >Re: BT Recification Time chart question Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 2:35 PM Dear Dhanabalan ji,You mentioned that Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna." Can you please quote the reference. This is not to question it but to know the referenc.e I have seen KP astrologers using it often, but I didn't find it working and that is the reason I just wonder whether Shri KSK said it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Punitji Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna. Mr.Bhaskaran has used this concept and formulated a method to rectify the birth time. He published a book "K.B.'s Ruling planets and Birth time". Mr.Abhijit Lahiri has written article in KPEzine in the year 2007. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: BT Recification Time chart question @gro ups.com Sunday, February 15, 2009, 7:08 AM Dear Souvik ji,There is no such method documented in KP literature, as far as I know. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote: Hi Souvik,You may read Shri Abhijit Lahiri's views regarding proceeding with BTR at a particular moment or not. His article is published in one of the KPEzine. If you cannot find it, let me know. However, these are his views. I am sure others on the forum will offer their comments too.RegardsSunil Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@ >@gro ups.com Friday, February 13, 2009 6:34:06 PM BT Recification Time chart question Dear Bhaskar-ji/respecte d members, I am a KP student.I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group too.In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chartthere is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to seeif it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one.However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BTRecitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or notby casting teh Time chart?Please do let me know your views.Regards,Souvik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Mr DhanbalanWhile correcting the birth time through horary, the horary lagna is taken as RP ?RegardsSujata--- On Mon, 16/2/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:Punit Pandey <punitpRe: BT Recification Time chart question Date: Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Dhanabalan ji,I suspected so. It never worked for me. Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Punitji I did not find any reference in KP Readers. I do not know how Mr.Mohankumar stated that it is the statement of Mr.KSK. It is a pre-natal-epoch (Hindu astrology) theory. Mr.KSK tested this theory and found not correct. "It seems that I misguided you that it is Mr.KSK's concept." In the KP Readers also, it is mentioned that the success rate of pre-natal-epoch theory is only 50%. I also tested the pre-natal-epoch theory in my own case in the way Mr.KSK explained in KP Reader III but I did not get the result. Whereas, Mr.Bhaskaran used that theory to rectify the time. I did not try Mr.Bhaskaran's method since Mr.KSK rejected the Pre natal epoch theory. Still the articles are published in KPEzine based on Mr.Bhaskaran's method. For birth time rectification, the astrologer can ask a number between 1 and 249 from the client. The Horary lagna sign, lagna star and lagna sub should also come as Ruling Planets. It is Mr.Sattainathan's method. Dhanabalan --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: BT Recification Time chart question @gro ups.comSunday, February 15, 2009, 2:35 PM Dear Dhanabalan ji,You mentioned that Mr..KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna." Can you please quote the reference. This is not to question it but to know the referenc.e I have seen KP astrologers using it often, but I didn't find it working and that is the reason I just wonder whether Shri KSK said it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Punitji Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna. Mr.Bhaskaran has used this concept and formulated a method to rectify the birth time. He published a book "K.B.'s Ruling planets and Birth time". Mr.Abhijit Lahiri has written article in KPEzine in the year 2007. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: BT Recification Time chart question @gro ups.comSunday, February 15, 2009, 7:08 AM Dear Souvik ji,There is no such method documented in KP literature, as far as I know. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote: Hi Souvik,You may read Shri Abhijit Lahiri's views regarding proceeding with BTR at a particular moment or not. His article is published in one of the KPEzine. If you cannot find it, let me know. However, these are his views. I am sure others on the forum will offer their comments too. RegardsSunil Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@ >@gro ups.com Friday, February 13, 2009 6:34:06 PM BT Recification Time chart question Dear Bhaskar-ji/respecte d members, I am a KP student.I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group too.In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chart there is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to seeif it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one.However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BTRecitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or not by casting teh Time chart?Please do let me know your views.Regards,Souvik Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Sujata The five Ruling planets are as usual based on the time chart. He used Horary lagna to confirm the Ruling planets. Dhanabalan --- On Mon, 2/16/09, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: sujata das <sujatadash1Re: BT Recification Time chart question Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 6:38 AM Dear Mr DhanbalanWhile correcting the birth time through horary, the horary lagna is taken as RP ?RegardsSujata--- On Mon, 16/2/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: BT Recification Time chart question@gro ups.comMonday, 16 February, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Dhanabalan ji,I suspected so. It never worked for me. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Punitji I did not find any reference in KP Readers. I do not know how Mr.Mohankumar stated that it is the statement of Mr.KSK. It is a pre-natal-epoch (Hindu astrology) theory. Mr.KSK tested this theory and found not correct. "It seems that I misguided you that it is Mr.KSK's concept." In the KP Readers also, it is mentioned that the success rate of pre-natal-epoch theory is only 50%. I also tested the pre-natal-epoch theory in my own case in the way Mr.KSK explained in KP Reader III but I did not get the result. Whereas, Mr.Bhaskaran used that theory to rectify the time. I did not try Mr.Bhaskaran' s method since Mr.KSK rejected the Pre natal epoch theory. Still the articles are published in KPEzine based on Mr.Bhaskaran' s method. For birth time rectification, the astrologer can ask a number between 1 and 249 from the client. The Horary lagna sign, lagna star and lagna sub should also come as Ruling Planets. It is Mr.Sattainathan' s method. Dhanabalan --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: BT Recification Time chart question@gro ups.comSunday, February 15, 2009, 2:35 PM Dear Dhanabalan ji,You mentioned that Mr..KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna." Can you please quote the reference. This is not to question it but to know the referenc.e I have seen KP astrologers using it often, but I didn't find it working and that is the reason I just wonder whether Shri KSK said it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Punitji Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna. Mr.Bhaskaran has used this concept and formulated a method to rectify the birth time. He published a book "K.B.'s Ruling planets and Birth time". Mr.Abhijit Lahiri has written article in KPEzine in the year 2007. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: BT Recification Time chart question @gro ups.com Sunday, February 15, 2009, 7:08 AM Dear Souvik ji,There is no such method documented in KP literature, as far as I know. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote: Hi Souvik,You may read Shri Abhijit Lahiri's views regarding proceeding with BTR at a particular moment or not. His article is published in one of the KPEzine. If you cannot find it, let me know. However, these are his views. I am sure others on the forum will offer their comments too.RegardsSunil Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@ >@gro ups.com Friday, February 13, 2009 6:34:06 PM BT Recification Time chart question Dear Bhaskar-ji/respecte d members, I am a KP student.I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group too.In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chartthere is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to seeif it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one.However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BTRecitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or notby casting teh Time chart?Please do let me know your views.Regards,Souvik Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dear Bhaskar-ji, Thank you so much for the mail..as always grateful. Regards, Souvik , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Souvik ji. > > I am sorry, I am not quite clear with the query. > > 1) Before the start of the analysis if you wish to know whether the > Query is genuine or not, you have to check the Moons positions which > reflects the querists mind. You also have to check the position of the > planets, Saturn and Mars, vis a vis the 7th Cusp. > > 2) Apart from above, there is commonsense to be used to answer the > queries. One must not answer queries related to " How much is my age " ( > Unless a person is in a serious condition), " Whether I will pass my > exams ( Unless he has already sat for the eaxms) " or whether I should > marry this girl ( If he is engaged to the girl then no sense now > checking this)etc.etc. > > 3) Now coming to your query in BTR, BTR is again based on the RP's and > RP's are nothing but the Lagna at the moment of judgement and the other > pointers, so if you check the chart of the RP's vis a vis the first > point above, and find conditions pointing to a faulty query, then you > may not proceed. > > 4) There are other queries too which must be given due consideration > before you proceed to check the results, for example a daughter in law > asking about her father in laws health. This may be actually finding out > by her how much he will live so that they can unsurp the property, or if > you tell that he is going to live long, then she may not serve her > father in law properly thinking that he may live long. So think well > before such enquiries are entertained. > > You may read a very good book by DP Saxena on Horary Astrology for such > pointers. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar-ji/respected members, > > > > I am a KP student. > > > > I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum > > but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group > > too. > > > > In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chart > > there is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to see > > if it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one. > > > > However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BT > > Recitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or not > > by casting teh Time chart? > > > > Please do let me know your views. > > > > Regards, > > > > Souvik > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dear Punit-ji, I am trying to follow the discussion between you and Dhanabalan-ji. Thank you for responding. Student always, Souvik , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > > Dear Souvik ji, > > There is no such method documented in KP literature, as far as I know. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21wrote: > > > Hi Souvik, > > You may read Shri Abhijit Lahiri's views regarding proceeding with BTR at a > > particular moment or not. His article is published in one of the KPEzine. If > > you cannot find it, let me know. However, these are his views. I am sure > > others on the forum will offer their comments too. > > Regards > > Sunil > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan > > *To:* > > *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2009 6:34:06 PM > > *Subject:* BT Recification Time chart question > > > > Dear Bhaskar-ji/respecte d members, > > > > > > I am a KP student. > > > > I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum > > but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group > > too. > > > > In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chart > > there is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to see > > if it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one. > > > > However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BT > > Recitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or not > > by casting teh Time chart? > > > > Please do let me know your views. > > > > Regards, > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 This theory has been propounded by K Baskaran, the author of Secrets of RP & Birth Time. Hasmukhrai J MehtaIndia's Number one online Superstore for Books on Hindu, Vedic and KP Astrology --- On Sun, 15/2/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: BT Recification Time chart question Date: Sunday, 15 February, 2009, 8:05 PM Dear Dhanabalan ji,You mentioned that Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna." Can you please quote the reference. This is not to question it but to know the referenc.e I have seen KP astrologers using it often, but I didn't find it working and that is the reason I just wonder whether Shri KSK said it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Punitji Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna. Mr.Bhaskaran has used this concept and formulated a method to rectify the birth time. He published a book "K.B.'s Ruling planets and Birth time". Mr.Abhijit Lahiri has written article in KPEzine in the year 2007. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: BT Recification Time chart question @gro ups.comSunday, February 15, 2009, 7:08 AM Dear Souvik ji,There is no such method documented in KP literature, as far as I know. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote: Hi Souvik,You may read Shri Abhijit Lahiri's views regarding proceeding with BTR at a particular moment or not. His article is published in one of the KPEzine. If you cannot find it, let me know. However, these are his views. I am sure others on the forum will offer their comments too.RegardsSunil Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@ >@gro ups.com Friday, February 13, 2009 6:34:06 PM BT Recification Time chart question Dear Bhaskar-ji/respecte d members, I am a KP student.I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group too.In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chartthere is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to seeif it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one.However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BTRecitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or notby casting teh Time chart?Please do let me know your views.Regards,Souvik Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Dear Hasmukhrai Mehtaji It is pre natal epoch theory(Hindu astrology). Mr.KSK tested this method and found not satisfactory. In KP Reader III, it is stated that the reliability of this method is 50%. Still Mr.K.Bhaskaran is using this method for birth time correction. Dhanabalan--- On Sat, 3/7/09, Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinikRe: BT Recification Time chart question Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 11:55 AM This theory has been propounded by K Baskaran, the author of Secrets of RP & Birth Time. Hasmukhrai J MehtaIndia's Number one online Superstore for Books on Hindu, Vedic and KP Astrology --- On Sun, 15/2/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: BT Recification Time chart question@gro ups.comSunday, 15 February, 2009, 8:05 PM Dear Dhanabalan ji,You mentioned that Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna." Can you please quote the reference. This is not to question it but to know the referenc.e I have seen KP astrologers using it often, but I didn't find it working and that is the reason I just wonder whether Shri KSK said it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Punitji Mr.KSK said that the RP lagna shows birth moon. RP moon shows birth lagna. Mr.Bhaskaran has used this concept and formulated a method to rectify the birth time. He published a book "K.B.'s Ruling planets and Birth time". Mr.Abhijit Lahiri has written article in KPEzine in the year 2007. Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: BT Recification Time chart question @gro ups.comSunday, February 15, 2009, 7:08 AM Dear Souvik ji,There is no such method documented in KP literature, as far as I know. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ > wrote: Hi Souvik,You may read Shri Abhijit Lahiri's views regarding proceeding with BTR at a particular moment or not. His article is published in one of the KPEzine. If you cannot find it, let me know. However, these are his views. I am sure others on the forum will offer their comments too.RegardsSunil Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@ >@gro ups.com Friday, February 13, 2009 6:34:06 PM BT Recification Time chart question Dear Bhaskar-ji/respecte d members, I am a KP student.I have posted this question to respected Bhaskar-ji in another forum but I wanted to know opinion of other esteemed members of this group too.In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chartthere is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to seeif it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one.However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BTRecitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or notby casting teh Time chart?Please do let me know your views.Regards,Souvik Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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