8th house is for divorce or for marriage

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Dear Members

The house 8 is for marriage or for divorce?

With reference to page 176 of KP Reader V 2004 edition, the houses 2,7,11 for marriage and the houses 6,12,10,8 for divorce.

Whereas Mr.KMS has considered the house 8 for marriage.

Dhanabalan

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Dear Dhanabalan

For marriage 7 th sublord is in the star which denotes 5 7 2 11 then

it will be love affection marriage

As well as when 7 th sublord is in the star which denotes 1,6,10 and

also 7 then when the 1,6,10 acts dhasa bhukthi acts seperation will act

So no need of 8 th house for considering devorse

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Dear Mohankumar

Whether 8th house can be considered for marriage.

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Mohankumar <b_mohan_mohan wrote:

Mohankumar <b_mohan_mohan Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 1:22 PM

 

 

Dear DhanabalanFor marriage 7 th sublord is in the star which denotes 5 7 2 11 then it will be love affection marriageAs well as when 7 th sublord is in the star which denotes 1,6,10 and also 7 then when the 1,6,10 acts dhasa bhukthi acts seperation will actSo no need of 8 th house for considering devorse

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Respected sir

As far as my little knowledge based on KP goes I think

8th house should be always studied with very very carefullness.The

reasons behind to take 8th for marriage might be concerned due to

 

1- It is 2 nd house from 7th(asc of spouse)i.e house concerned with

your spouse marriage ,obviously its native marriage also.

2- It is the house which denotes scandle(related with lady)and illicit

relations especially if 5th house and venus connections exist in

chart,in rare cases this relation sometimes also convert into marriage

if house 7th and 11th found some sort of interlinking.

The logic behind to taking 8th house for divorce might

be also above but interpreted with different angle-

1- It is 2 nd house of 7th(asc of spouse)which is also marak for asc

and same time it is also the house of disappointment for 1st

house(lagna).I would like to mention the marak meaning which also goes

beyond the strict limit of lonevity related notion.

2- mostly scandle(having relation with ladies) and illicit relation

leads to divorce if venus and house 6th,10th connections exist in chart.

Sir It is the beauty of nature that all things

are here in duality ,like day-night,happyness-sorrow,life -death etc

both opposing things are hidden in same seed here,only things is to

read when and how which will be prominent and other one will be

dominant in the same seed.

Hope to see others senior and learned members view,

With Regards

AMIT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

>

> Dear Members

> The house 8 is for marriage or for divorce?

> With reference to page 176 of KP Reader V 2004 edition, the houses

2,7,11 for marriage and the houses 6,12,10,8 for divorce.

> Whereas Mr.KMS has considered the house 8 for marriage.

> Dhanabalan

>

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I think VIII house is to be considered for marriage. But yet to be proved.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 7:43:56 PMRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mohankumar

Whether 8th house can be considered for marriage.

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Mohankumar <b_mohan_mohan@ .co. in> wrote:

Mohankumar <b_mohan_mohan@ .co. in> Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage@gro ups.comSunday, February 8, 2009, 1:22 PM

 

 

Dear DhanabalanFor marriage 7 th sublord is in the star which denotes 5 7 2 11 then it will be love affection marriageAs well as when 7 th sublord is in the star which denotes 1,6,10 and also 7 then when the 1,6,10 acts dhasa bhukthi acts seperation will actSo no need of 8 th house for considering devorse

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Dear Luther

Do you think it is a printing mistake in the KP Reader.

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 3:47 PM

 

 

 

 

I think VIII house is to be considered for marriage. But yet to be proved.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comSunday, February 8, 2009 7:43:56 PMRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mohankumar

Whether 8th house can be considered for marriage.

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Mohankumar <b_mohan_mohan@ .co. in> wrote:

Mohankumar <b_mohan_mohan@ .co. in> Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage@gro ups.comSunday, February 8, 2009, 1:22 PM

 

 

Dear DhanabalanFor marriage 7 th sublord is in the star which denotes 5 7 2 11 then it will be love affection marriageAs well as when 7 th sublord is in the star which denotes 1,6,10 and also 7 then when the 1,6,10 acts dhasa bhukthi acts seperation will actSo no need of 8 th house for considering devorse

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One situation comes to my mind.8th house could be considered incase of alimony. As 8th represents 2nd to the spouse meaning income.Would be glad if anyone can guide whether this analysis is correct.BestSudhakar Luther Rath <rathluther08 February 2009 21:17 Subject: Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriageI think VIII house is to be considered for marriage. But yet to be proved.Dr. Rath[The entire original message is not included]

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Dear Dhanabalan ji,Could it be that 8H is maraksthan for marriage, being 2nd from 7th and 7th from 2nd. Best RegardsNeelam2009/2/8 Sudhakar Ramasubramanian <krs222

 

 

 

 

 

One situation comes to my mind.8th house could be considered incase of alimony. As 8th represents 2nd to the spouse meaning income.

Would be glad if anyone can guide whether this analysis is correct.BestSudhakar Luther Rath <rathluther

08 February 2009 21:17

Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

I think VIII house is to be considered for marriage. But yet to be proved.

Dr. Rath[The entire original message is not included]

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Respected Madam,

Sorry for intervening. I may be excused. Lagna indicates life and 2nd therefrom is considered as maraka to the native. But do we consider 11th as maraka to 10th (profession), do we consider 7th as maraka to 6th(income from business or profession? I think it's 'No'.As regards marriage, the ascendant indicates the native and the 7th indicates the spouse. He marries and she marries. They marry to each other. So when 2nd is considered for marriage of the native then the 2nd fro 7th i.e. 8th is also to be considered as a resposnible house , not as a maraka. I hope I am not confused.

With respet.

Dr. Rath.

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 10:21:49 PMRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Could it be that 8H is maraksthan for marriage, being 2nd from 7th and 7th from 2nd. Best RegardsNeelam

2009/2/8 Sudhakar Ramasubramanian <krs222 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

 

 

 

 

 

One situation comes to my mind.8th house could be considered incase of alimony. As 8th represents 2nd to the spouse meaning income.Would be glad if anyone can guide whether this analysis is correct.BestSudhakar

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >08 February 2009 21:17

@gro ups.comRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think VIII house is to be considered for marriage. But yet to be proved.

Dr. Rath

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Dear Sirs,

I have been studying on charts of married individuals. I have found that in 17 charts out of 26, the VII cusp sub lord signifies VIII. So VIII house has strong signification for marriage.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 8:53:14 PM Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

Respected sirAs far as my little knowledge based on KP goes I think8th house should be always studied with very very carefullness. Thereasons behind to take 8th for marriage might be concerned due to1- It is 2 nd house from 7th(asc of spouse)i.e house concerned withyour spouse marriage ,obviously its native marriage also.2- It is the house which denotes scandle(related with lady)and illicitrelations especially if 5th house and venus connections exist inchart,in rare cases this relation sometimes also convert into marriageif house 7th and 11th found some sort of interlinking.The logic behind to taking 8th house for divorce mightbe also above but interpreted with different angle-1- It is 2 nd house of 7th(asc of spouse)which is also marak for ascand same time it is also the house of disappointment for 1sthouse(lagna) .I would like to mention the marak meaning which also goesbeyond the

strict limit of lonevity related notion.2- mostly scandle(having relation with ladies) and illicit relationleads to divorce if venus and house 6th,10th connections exist in chart.Sir It is the beauty of nature that all thingsare here in duality ,like day-night,happyness -sorrow,life -death etcboth opposing things are hidden in same seed here,only things is toread when and how which will be prominent and other one will bedominant in the same seed.Hope to see others senior and learned members view,With RegardsAMIT@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Members> The house 8 is for marriage or for divorce?> With reference to page 176 of KP Reader V 2004 edition, the houses2,7,11 for marriage and the houses

6,12,10,8 for divorce.> Whereas Mr.KMS has considered the house 8 for marriage.> Dhanabalan>

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Dear Luther

Maraka and badhaka are to be considered only to calculate the life span of the native. It is used to predict the threat to life and accidents. Maraka and Badhaka should not be considered for marriage. For dual signs, the marakasthana is same of the spouse. House 2 is income. Whether one's maraka is due to his spouse or his business partner always?

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 1:17 AM

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

Sorry for intervening. I may be excused. Lagna indicates life and 2nd therefrom is considered as maraka to the native. But do we consider 11th as maraka to 10th (profession) , do we consider 7th as maraka to 6th(income from business or profession? I think it's 'No'.As regards marriage, the ascendant indicates the native and the 7th indicates the spouse. He marries and she marries. They marry to each other. So when 2nd is considered for marriage of the native then the 2nd fro 7th i.e. 8th is also to be considered as a resposnible house , not as a maraka. I hope I am not confused.

With respet.

Dr. Rath.

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, February 8, 2009 10:21:49 PMRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Could it be that 8H is maraksthan for marriage, being 2nd from 7th and 7th from 2nd. Best RegardsNeelam

2009/2/8 Sudhakar Ramasubramanian <krs222 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

 

 

 

 

 

One situation comes to my mind.8th house could be considered incase of alimony. As 8th represents 2nd to the spouse meaning income.Would be glad if anyone can guide whether this analysis is correct.BestSudhakar

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >08 February 2009 21:17 @gro ups.comRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think VIII house is to be considered for marriage. But yet to be proved.

Dr. Rath

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No 8th house is quite often taken as suplemental house for Marriage. Even if you consider it specifically for Divorce only, it also must first Show Marriage

 

raichur anant --- On Sun, 8/2/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage Date: Sunday, 8 February, 2009, 10:21 PM

 

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Could it be that 8H is maraksthan for marriage, being 2nd from 7th and 7th from 2nd. Best RegardsNeelam

2009/2/8 Sudhakar Ramasubramanian <krs222

 

 

 

 

 

One situation comes to my mind.8th house could be considered incase of alimony. As 8th represents 2nd to the spouse meaning income.Would be glad if anyone can guide whether this analysis is correct.BestSudhakar

 

Luther Rath <rathluther08 February 2009 21:17

Subject: Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think VIII house is to be considered for marriage. But yet to be proved.

Dr. Rath

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Dear Dr. Luther and learned members,Thank you Dr. Luther for your clarification. 7H is for wife, and so is 2H, but both are also marakas for self. When these houses will give a wife and when they will kill, we need to judge. 7H is the marital knot and 12H negates that knot. Similarly, 8H is augmentation of marriage (mangalya) once marriage is performed. But in the same 8H house as well as 1H, we can also see marriage getting 'killed' or 'nulled' when such conditions prevail. Affliction to 2/8 axis is always bad for marriage, many a neighbours have been witness to the excessive verbosity (2,8 being vaani houses for both) killing marriages. And affliction to lagna, or 1/7 axis is also similarly detrimental to marriage.

As per traditional, we use marakas a little more liberally. When we check results pertaining to a particular house, we consider that house as lagna and then delineate the results, by taking each of the houses from it as per their significations. e.g, if we wish to see the longevity of child, we shall look at 5th and 8th as aayu houses and 6H and 11H as the marak houses for him. It is clear in traditional literature that 6/8/12 are detrimental for any house and bhavat bhavam be studied to get the correct picture. All houses will have a aayu house, a marak house, a house of luck, a house of efforts, a house of strife related to that house, so on and so forth.

I had also read somewhere, not able to recall now, that we may see badhaksthan of each house while judging the house results in details.I shall be grateful if learned members can throw more light on the use of these principles for a better understanding.

Best RegardsNeelam

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Dear Neelamji,

 

Please make it correct for longevity of child we took 5th house(of

native chart,for his child) as ascendant for child and 7th(child's 2nd

H)and 12th (Child's 8th H) for aayush,not 8th H(it is 4th from 5th).

 

We in tradition system using " Bhavatam-Bhavam " ,in KP what is the

position we have to know by learned seniors.I have asked the same to

Mr.Tin Win ji.

 

Thanks,

 

M.S.Bohra

 

 

 

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Dr. Luther and learned members,

>

> Thank you Dr. Luther for your clarification.

>

> 7H is for wife, and so is 2H, but both are also marakas for self.

When these

> houses will give a wife and when they will kill, we need to judge.

7H is the

> marital knot and 12H negates that knot. Similarly, 8H is augmentation of

> marriage (mangalya) once marriage is performed. But in the same 8H

house as

> well as 1H, we can also see marriage getting 'killed' or 'nulled'

when such

> conditions prevail. Affliction to 2/8 axis is always bad for

marriage, many

> a neighbours have been witness to the excessive verbosity (2,8 being

vaani

> houses for both) killing marriages. And affliction to lagna, or 1/7

axis is

> also similarly detrimental to marriage.

>

> As per traditional, we use marakas a little more liberally. When we

check

> results pertaining to a particular house, we consider that house as

lagna

> and then delineate the results, by taking each of the houses from it

as per

> their significations. e.g, if we wish to see the longevity of child, we

> shall look at 5th and 8th as aayu houses and 6H and 11H as the marak

houses

> for him. It is clear in traditional literature that 6/8/12 are

detrimental

> for any house and bhavat bhavam be studied to get the correct

picture. All

> houses will have a aayu house, a marak house, a house of luck, a

house of

> efforts, a house of strife related to that house, so on and so forth.

>

> I had also read somewhere, not able to recall now, that we may see

> badhaksthan of each house while judging the house results in details.

>

> I shall be grateful if learned members can throw more light on the

use of

> these principles for a better understanding.

>

> Best Regards

> Neelam

>

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Dear Neelam

In KP also, (ref page 465 Reader III 2004 edition) the houses 6/8/12 from the house concerned are detrimental. If the lagna lord is posited in 6th house, it indicates ill-health to the native. If it occupies 8th house, longevity is not much promised. If it is in 12, he will spend away whatever he has.

Bhavat bhavam also in KP.(ref page 465 Reader III 2004 edition)

6th house indicates disputes, 6th therefrom 11th indicates hormony.

8th house denotes abstacles, 8th therefrom 3rd sahaya

12th house indicates loss, 12th therefrom 11th shows gains.

Badhakasthanam should be taken to each house. For father, 9th house is taken as lagna and count the signs therefrom according to type of rasi, movable or fixed or dual, where 9th house falls. For mother, count the badhakasthanam from 4th house of the native and so on.Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 2/9/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 8:28 AM

 

 

Dear Dr. Luther and learned members,Thank you Dr. Luther for your clarification. 7H is for wife, and so is 2H, but both are also marakas for self. When these houses will give a wife and when they will kill, we need to judge. 7H is the marital knot and 12H negates that knot. Similarly, 8H is augmentation of marriage (mangalya) once marriage is performed. But in the same 8H house as well as 1H, we can also see marriage getting 'killed' or 'nulled' when such conditions prevail. Affliction to 2/8 axis is always bad for marriage, many a neighbours have been witness to the excessive verbosity (2,8 being vaani houses for both) killing marriages. And affliction to lagna, or 1/7 axis is also similarly detrimental to marriage. As per traditional, we use marakas a little more liberally. When we check results pertaining to a particular house, we consider that house as lagna and then delineate the results, by taking each of the houses

from it as per their significations. e.g, if we wish to see the longevity of child, we shall look at 5th and 8th as aayu houses and 6H and 11H as the marak houses for him. It is clear in traditional literature that 6/8/12 are detrimental for any house and bhavat bhavam be studied to get the correct picture. All houses will have a aayu house, a marak house, a house of luck, a house of efforts, a house of strife related to that house, so on and so forth.I had also read somewhere, not able to recall now, that we may see badhaksthan of each house while judging the house results in details.I shall be grateful if learned members can throw more light on the use of these principles for a better understanding.Best RegardsNeelam

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Sorry I have also did the mistake in typing ,please read as :

 

" Please make it correct for longevity of child we took 5th house(of

native chart,for his child) as ascendant for child and 7th(child's 3rd

H)and 12th (Child's 8th H) for aayush for child,not 8th H(it is 4th

from 5th).

 

M.S.bohra

 

 

, " msbohra62 " <msbohra62 wrote:

>

> Dear Neelamji,

>

> Please make it correct for longevity of child we took 5th house(of

> native chart,for his child) as ascendant for child and 7th(child's 2nd

> H)and 12th (Child's 8th H) for aayush,not 8th H(it is 4th from 5th).

>

> We in tradition system using " Bhavatam-Bhavam " ,in KP what is the

> position we have to know by learned seniors.I have asked the same to

> Mr.Tin Win ji.

>

> Thanks,

>

> M.S.Bohra

>

>

>

> , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Dr. Luther and learned members,

> >

> > Thank you Dr. Luther for your clarification.

> >

> > 7H is for wife, and so is 2H, but both are also marakas for self.

> When these

> > houses will give a wife and when they will kill, we need to judge.

> 7H is the

> > marital knot and 12H negates that knot. Similarly, 8H is

augmentation of

> > marriage (mangalya) once marriage is performed. But in the same 8H

> house as

> > well as 1H, we can also see marriage getting 'killed' or 'nulled'

> when such

> > conditions prevail. Affliction to 2/8 axis is always bad for

> marriage, many

> > a neighbours have been witness to the excessive verbosity (2,8 being

> vaani

> > houses for both) killing marriages. And affliction to lagna, or 1/7

> axis is

> > also similarly detrimental to marriage.

> >

> > As per traditional, we use marakas a little more liberally. When we

> check

> > results pertaining to a particular house, we consider that house as

> lagna

> > and then delineate the results, by taking each of the houses from it

> as per

> > their significations. e.g, if we wish to see the longevity of

child, we

> > shall look at 5th and 8th as aayu houses and 6H and 11H as the marak

> houses

> > for him. It is clear in traditional literature that 6/8/12 are

> detrimental

> > for any house and bhavat bhavam be studied to get the correct

> picture. All

> > houses will have a aayu house, a marak house, a house of luck, a

> house of

> > efforts, a house of strife related to that house, so on and so forth.

> >

> > I had also read somewhere, not able to recall now, that we may see

> > badhaksthan of each house while judging the house results in details.

> >

> > I shall be grateful if learned members can throw more light on the

> use of

> > these principles for a better understanding.

> >

> > Best Regards

> > Neelam

> >

>

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Dear sir,In marriage , 2 is considered for any additional member in the family of the native.RegardsAdithOn Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

Sorry for intervening. I may be excused. Lagna indicates life and 2nd therefrom is considered as maraka to the native. But do we consider 11th as maraka to 10th (profession), do we consider 7th as maraka to 6th(income from business or profession? I think it's 'No'.As regards marriage, the ascendant indicates the native and the 7th indicates the spouse. He marries and she marries. They marry to each other. So when 2nd is considered for marriage of the native then the 2nd fro 7th i.e. 8th is also to be considered as a resposnible house , not as a maraka. I hope I am not confused.

With respet.

Dr. Rath.

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

Sunday, February 8, 2009 10:21:49 PMRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Could it be that 8H is maraksthan for marriage, being 2nd from 7th and 7th from 2nd. Best RegardsNeelam

2009/2/8 Sudhakar Ramasubramanian <krs222 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

 

 

 

 

 

One situation comes to my mind.8th house could be considered incase of alimony. As 8th represents 2nd to the spouse meaning income.

Would be glad if anyone can guide whether this analysis is correct.BestSudhakar

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >

08 February 2009 21:17

@gro ups.com

Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think VIII house is to be considered for marriage. But yet to be proved.

Dr. Rath

[The entire original message is not included]

[Guest guest]

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Thank you very much for your input and clarifications. That helps a beginner like me. I shall be grateful for your views on dealing with marakas.Best RegardsNeelam

2009/2/9 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Neelam

In KP also, (ref page 465 Reader III 2004 edition) the houses 6/8/12 from the house concerned are detrimental. If the lagna lord is posited in 6th house, it indicates ill-health to the native. If it occupies 8th house, longevity is not much promised. If it is in 12, he will spend away whatever he has.

Bhavat bhavam also in KP.(ref page 465 Reader III 2004 edition)

6th house indicates disputes, 6th therefrom 11th indicates hormony.

8th house denotes abstacles, 8th therefrom 3rd sahaya

12th house indicates loss, 12th therefrom 11th shows gains.

Badhakasthanam should be taken to each house. For father, 9th house is taken as lagna and count the signs therefrom according to type of rasi, movable or fixed or dual, where 9th house falls. For mother, count the badhakasthanam from 4th house of the native and so on.Dhanabalan

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 8:28 AM

 

 

Dear Dr. Luther and learned members,Thank you Dr. Luther for your clarification. 7H is for wife, and so is 2H, but both are also marakas for self. When these houses will give a wife and when they will kill, we need to judge. 7H is the marital knot and 12H negates that knot. Similarly, 8H is augmentation of marriage (mangalya) once marriage is performed. But in the same 8H house as well as 1H, we can also see marriage getting 'killed' or 'nulled' when such conditions prevail. Affliction to 2/8 axis is always bad for marriage, many a neighbours have been witness to the excessive verbosity (2,8 being vaani houses for both) killing marriages. And affliction to lagna, or 1/7 axis is also similarly detrimental to marriage.

As per traditional, we use marakas a little more liberally. When we check results pertaining to a particular house, we consider that house as lagna and then delineate the results, by taking each of the houses

from it as per their significations. e.g, if we wish to see the longevity of child, we shall look at 5th and 8th as aayu houses and 6H and 11H as the marak houses for him. It is clear in traditional literature that 6/8/12 are detrimental for any house and bhavat bhavam be studied to get the correct picture. All houses will have a aayu house, a marak house, a house of luck, a house of efforts, a house of strife related to that house, so on and so forth.

I had also read somewhere, not able to recall now, that we may see badhaksthan of each house while judging the house results in details.I shall be grateful if learned members can throw more light on the use of these principles for a better understanding.

Best RegardsNeelam

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Dear Bohra ji,I am sorry, that was a typo. Please read as 5th and 12th for aayu, instead of 5th and 8th.Thank you for pointing out.

 

 

Best Regards

Neelam2009/2/9 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Thank you very much for your input and clarifications. That helps a beginner like me. I shall be grateful for your views on dealing with marakas.Best RegardsNeelam

2009/2/9 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Neelam

In KP also, (ref page 465 Reader III 2004 edition) the houses 6/8/12 from the house concerned are detrimental. If the lagna lord is posited in 6th house, it indicates ill-health to the native. If it occupies 8th house, longevity is not much promised. If it is in 12, he will spend away whatever he has.

Bhavat bhavam also in KP.(ref page 465 Reader III 2004 edition)

6th house indicates disputes, 6th therefrom 11th indicates hormony.

8th house denotes abstacles, 8th therefrom 3rd sahaya

12th house indicates loss, 12th therefrom 11th shows gains.

Badhakasthanam should be taken to each house. For father, 9th house is taken as lagna and count the signs therefrom according to type of rasi, movable or fixed or dual, where 9th house falls. For mother, count the badhakasthanam from 4th house of the native and so on.Dhanabalan

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 8:28 AM

 

 

Dear Dr. Luther and learned members,Thank you Dr. Luther for your clarification. 7H is for wife, and so is 2H, but both are also marakas for self. When these houses will give a wife and when they will kill, we need to judge. 7H is the marital knot and 12H negates that knot. Similarly, 8H is augmentation of marriage (mangalya) once marriage is performed. But in the same 8H house as well as 1H, we can also see marriage getting 'killed' or 'nulled' when such conditions prevail. Affliction to 2/8 axis is always bad for marriage, many a neighbours have been witness to the excessive verbosity (2,8 being vaani houses for both) killing marriages. And affliction to lagna, or 1/7 axis is also similarly detrimental to marriage.

As per traditional, we use marakas a little more liberally. When we check results pertaining to a particular house, we consider that house as lagna and then delineate the results, by taking each of the houses

from it as per their significations. e.g, if we wish to see the longevity of child, we shall look at 5th and 8th as aayu houses and 6H and 11H as the marak houses for him. It is clear in traditional literature that 6/8/12 are detrimental for any house and bhavat bhavam be studied to get the correct picture. All houses will have a aayu house, a marak house, a house of luck, a house of efforts, a house of strife related to that house, so on and so forth.

I had also read somewhere, not able to recall now, that we may see badhaksthan of each house while judging the house results in details.I shall be grateful if learned members can throw more light on the use of these principles for a better understanding.

Best RegardsNeelam

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Daer Adith

House II represents family. There may be addition or deletion in the family. Not only addition.

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 2/9/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote:

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 12:10 PM

 

 

Dear sir,In marriage , 2 is considered for any additional member in the family of the native.RegardsAdith

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

Sorry for intervening. I may be excused. Lagna indicates life and 2nd therefrom is considered as maraka to the native. But do we consider 11th as maraka to 10th (profession) , do we consider 7th as maraka to 6th(income from business or profession? I think it's 'No'.As regards marriage, the ascendant indicates the native and the 7th indicates the spouse. He marries and she marries. They marry to each other. So when 2nd is considered for marriage of the native then the 2nd fro 7th i.e. 8th is also to be considered as a resposnible house , not as a maraka. I hope I am not confused.

With respet.

Dr. Rath.

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.comSunday, February 8, 2009 10:21:49 PM

Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Could it be that 8H is maraksthan for marriage, being 2nd from 7th and 7th from 2nd. Best RegardsNeelam

 

2009/2/8 Sudhakar Ramasubramanian <krs222 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

 

 

 

 

 

 

One situation comes to my mind.8th house could be considered incase of alimony. As 8th represents 2nd to the spouse meaning income.Would be glad if anyone can guide whether this analysis is correct.BestSudhakar

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >08 February 2009 21:17

@gro ups.com

Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think VIII house is to be considered for marriage. But yet to be proved.

Dr. Rath

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Dear Dhanabalan jiI am aware of that. As the discussion is on the Marriage , I have taken the addition.Thanks for your comments.RegardsAdithOn Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Daer Adith

House II represents family. There may be addition or deletion in the family. Not only addition.

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 2/9/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote:

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 12:10 PM

 

 

Dear sir,In marriage , 2 is considered for any additional member in the family of the native.RegardsAdith

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

Sorry for intervening. I may be excused. Lagna indicates life and 2nd therefrom is considered as maraka to the native. But do we consider 11th as maraka to 10th (profession) , do we consider 7th as maraka to 6th(income from business or profession? I think it's 'No'.As regards marriage, the ascendant indicates the native and the 7th indicates the spouse. He marries and she marries. They marry to each other. So when 2nd is considered for marriage of the native then the 2nd fro 7th i.e. 8th is also to be considered as a resposnible house , not as a maraka. I hope I am not confused.

With respet.

Dr. Rath.

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.comSunday, February 8, 2009 10:21:49 PM

Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Could it be that 8H is maraksthan for marriage, being 2nd from 7th and 7th from 2nd. Best RegardsNeelam

 

2009/2/8 Sudhakar Ramasubramanian <krs222 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

 

 

 

 

 

 

One situation comes to my mind.8th house could be considered incase of alimony. As 8th represents 2nd to the spouse meaning income.

Would be glad if anyone can guide whether this analysis is correct.BestSudhakar

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >

08 February 2009 21:17

@gro ups.com

Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think VIII house is to be considered for marriage. But yet to be proved.

Dr. Rath

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Very rightly II is addition to family as it is considered for marriage besides VII and XI. On the other hand II is 8th to wife and ther may be chance of loss of wife leading to deducton of a family member.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 7:08:46 PMRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

Dear Dhanabalan jiI am aware of that. As the discussion is on the Marriage , I have taken the addition.Thanks for your comments.RegardsAdith

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Daer Adith

House II represents family. There may be addition or deletion in the family. Not only addition.

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 2/9/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

@gro ups.comMonday, February 9, 2009, 12:10 PM

 

 

 

Dear sir,In marriage , 2 is considered for any additional member in the family of the native.RegardsAdith

 

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

Sorry for intervening. I may be excused. Lagna indicates life and 2nd therefrom is considered as maraka to the native. But do we consider 11th as maraka to 10th (profession) , do we consider 7th as maraka to 6th(income from business or profession? I think it's 'No'.As regards marriage, the ascendant indicates the native and the 7th indicates the spouse. He marries and she marries. They marry to each other. So when 2nd is considered for marriage of the native then the 2nd fro 7th i.e. 8th is also to be considered as a resposnible house , not as a maraka. I hope I am not confused.

With respet.

Dr. Rath.

 

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.com

Sunday, February 8, 2009 10:21:49 PM Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Could it be that 8H is maraksthan for marriage, being 2nd from 7th and 7th from 2nd. Best RegardsNeelam

 

2009/2/8 Sudhakar Ramasubramanian <krs222 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

 

 

 

 

 

 

One situation comes to my mind.8th house could be considered incase of alimony. As 8th represents 2nd to the spouse meaning income.Would be glad if anyone can guide whether this analysis is correct.BestSudhakar

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >08 February 2009 21:17

@gro ups.com Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think VIII house is to be considered for marriage. But yet to be proved.

Dr. Rath

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Dear Lutherji

With reference to Astrosecret part III page 11, "for marriage houses 2,7,11 are beneficial; for divorce, significators of 6,10,12 and 8 are beneficial"

In page 115, "Prof.K.SKrishnamurthi observes that the 12th house shows seperation from the partner, the 8th quarrel, dishormony and discard but yet living with the partner, and the 6th house temporary seperation caused either by illness or proceeding to outstation on professional assignments."

Hence the house 8 is not in support of marriage but it is in support of divorce. It may not be printing mistake in KP Reader V, taking house 8 for divorce.

Dhanabalan --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 12:54 AM

 

 

 

 

Very rightly II is addition to family as it is considered for marriage besides VII and XI. On the other hand II is 8th to wife and ther may be chance of loss of wife leading to deducton of a family member.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comMonday, February 9, 2009 7:08:46 PMRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

Dear Dhanabalan jiI am aware of that. As the discussion is on the Marriage , I have taken the addition.Thanks for your comments.RegardsAdith

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Daer Adith

House II represents family. There may be addition or deletion in the family. Not only addition.

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 2/9/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

@gro ups.comMonday, February 9, 2009, 12:10 PM

 

 

 

Dear sir,In marriage , 2 is considered for any additional member in the family of the native.RegardsAdith

 

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

Sorry for intervening. I may be excused. Lagna indicates life and 2nd therefrom is considered as maraka to the native. But do we consider 11th as maraka to 10th (profession) , do we consider 7th as maraka to 6th(income from business or profession? I think it's 'No'.As regards marriage, the ascendant indicates the native and the 7th indicates the spouse. He marries and she marries. They marry to each other. So when 2nd is considered for marriage of the native then the 2nd fro 7th i.e. 8th is also to be considered as a resposnible house , not as a maraka. I hope I am not confused.

With respet.

Dr. Rath.

 

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.com

Sunday, February 8, 2009 10:21:49 PM Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Could it be that 8H is maraksthan for marriage, being 2nd from 7th and 7th from 2nd. Best RegardsNeelam

 

2009/2/8 Sudhakar Ramasubramanian <krs222 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

 

 

 

 

 

 

One situation comes to my mind.8th house could be considered incase of alimony. As 8th represents 2nd to the spouse meaning income.Would be glad if anyone can guide whether this analysis is correct.BestSudhakar

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >08 February 2009 21:17

@gro ups.com Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think VIII house is to be considered for marriage. But yet to be proved.

Dr. Rath

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Dear Dr,Rath,pleased to note your pointsAdithOn Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Very rightly II is addition to family as it is considered for marriage besides VII and XI. On the other hand II is 8th to wife and ther may be chance of loss of wife leading to deducton of a family member.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath

Monday, February 9, 2009 7:08:46 PMRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan jiI am aware of that. As the discussion is on the Marriage , I have taken the addition.Thanks for your comments.RegardsAdith

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Daer Adith

House II represents family. There may be addition or deletion in the family. Not only addition.

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 2/9/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

@gro ups.comMonday, February 9, 2009, 12:10 PM

 

 

 

Dear sir,In marriage , 2 is considered for any additional member in the family of the native.RegardsAdith

 

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

Sorry for intervening. I may be excused. Lagna indicates life and 2nd therefrom is considered as maraka to the native. But do we consider 11th as maraka to 10th (profession) , do we consider 7th as maraka to 6th(income from business or profession? I think it's 'No'.As regards marriage, the ascendant indicates the native and the 7th indicates the spouse. He marries and she marries. They marry to each other. So when 2nd is considered for marriage of the native then the 2nd fro 7th i.e. 8th is also to be considered as a resposnible house , not as a maraka. I hope I am not confused.

With respet.

Dr. Rath.

 

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.com

Sunday, February 8, 2009 10:21:49 PM Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Could it be that 8H is maraksthan for marriage, being 2nd from 7th and 7th from 2nd. Best RegardsNeelam

 

2009/2/8 Sudhakar Ramasubramanian <krs222 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

 

 

 

 

 

 

One situation comes to my mind.8th house could be considered incase of alimony. As 8th represents 2nd to the spouse meaning income.

Would be glad if anyone can guide whether this analysis is correct.BestSudhakar

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >

08 February 2009 21:17

@gro ups.com Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think VIII house is to be considered for marriage. But yet to be proved.

Dr. Rath

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Dear Neelamji and Dhanbalanji,

Thank you very much for putting your valuable knowledge on the table.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 5:49:14 PMRe: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

 

Dear Bohra ji,I am sorry, that was a typo. Please read as 5th and 12th for aayu, instead of 5th and 8th.Thank you for pointing out. Best RegardsNeelam

2009/2/9 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Thank you very much for your input and clarifications. That helps a beginner like me. I shall be grateful for your views on dealing with marakas.Best RegardsNeelam

2009/2/9 Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Neelam

In KP also, (ref page 465 Reader III 2004 edition) the houses 6/8/12 from the house concerned are detrimental. If the lagna lord is posited in 6th house, it indicates ill-health to the native. If it occupies 8th house, longevity is not much promised. If it is in 12, he will spend away whatever he has.

Bhavat bhavam also in KP.(ref page 465 Reader III 2004 edition)

6th house indicates disputes, 6th therefrom 11th indicates hormony.

8th house denotes abstacles, 8th therefrom 3rd sahaya

12th house indicates loss, 12th therefrom 11th shows gains.

Badhakasthanam should be taken to each house. For father, 9th house is taken as lagna and count the signs therefrom according to type of rasi, movable or fixed or dual, where 9th house falls. For mother, count the badhakasthanam from 4th house of the native and so on.Dhanabalan

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Re: Re: 8th house is for divorce or for marriage

@gro ups.comMonday, February 9, 2009, 8:28 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dr. Luther and learned members,Thank you Dr. Luther for your clarification. 7H is for wife, and so is 2H, but both are also marakas for self. When these houses will give a wife and when they will kill, we need to judge. 7H is the marital knot and 12H negates that knot. Similarly, 8H is augmentation of marriage (mangalya) once marriage is performed. But in the same 8H house as well as 1H, we can also see marriage getting 'killed' or 'nulled' when such conditions prevail. Affliction to 2/8 axis is always bad for marriage, many a neighbours have been witness to the excessive verbosity (2,8 being vaani houses for both) killing marriages. And affliction to lagna, or 1/7 axis is also similarly detrimental to marriage. As per traditional, we use marakas a little more liberally. When we check results pertaining to a particular house, we consider that house as lagna and then delineate the results, by taking each of the houses

from it as per their significations. e.g, if we wish to see the longevity of child, we shall look at 5th and 8th as aayu houses and 6H and 11H as the marak houses for him. It is clear in traditional literature that 6/8/12 are detrimental for any house and bhavat bhavam be studied to get the correct picture. All houses will have a aayu house, a marak house, a house of luck, a house of efforts, a house of strife related to that house, so on and so forth.I had also read somewhere, not able to recall now, that we may see badhaksthan of each house while judging the house results in details.I shall be grateful if learned members can throw more light on the use of these principles for a better understanding.Best RegardsNeelam