Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Dear Members Mr.Mohankumar has published a book “MK’s Predictive Techniques in KP Astrologyâ€. In that book fruitful significators for marriage from Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory is explained as below. House Cusp Signlord Cusp Starlord Cusp Sublord Cusp SubSublord 2 Mars Mercury Mercury Venus 7 Mars Venus Mars Moon 11 Sun Venus Mars Ketu According to Dr.KAR’s theory, the common planets in the cuspal positions of 2,7,11 are the strongest significators. Here Mars and Venus are the strong significators(repeated). Marriage will occur in the period of Mars or Venus. Dr.KAR gave importance to cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord also. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Dear Sirs, When a planet signifies only one of the houses II, VII or XI, it may sgnify marriage but it also signifies many more maters. It it signify any 2 of then it is stronger for marriage and if signifies all three than it is very strong indeed. But one cannot give any guerenty that it gives marriage it its sub lord does not support these houses or at least neutral. And it won't giveif it signifies the negating houses. Dr. Luther Rath. Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalankpsystem groups Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:30:23 AM Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Members Mr.Mohankumar has published a book “MK’s Predictive Techniques in KP Astrologyâ€. In that book fruitful significators for marriage from Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory is explained as below. House Cusp Signlord Cusp Starlord Cusp Sublord Cusp SubSublord 2 Mars Mercury Mercury Venus 7 Mars Venus Mars Moon 11 Sun Venus Mars Ketu According to Dr.KAR’s theory, the common planets in the cuspal positions of 2,7,11 are the strongest significators. Here Mars and Venus are the strong significators( repeated) . Marriage will occur in the period of Mars or Venus.. Dr..KAR gave importance to cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord also. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Dear Luther Purpose of my posting is that Dr.KAR considered the signlord and starlord of the cusp as significators. Now the debate going on in this forum is whether the signlord and starlord of the cusps are to be considered or not. Generally the KP astrologers starting point is cuspal sublord, neglecting the cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord. In the original volumes of KP 1965, the cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord are taken as significators. In the cuspal interlinks, the cuspal starlord is considered as significator. Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 2:55 AM Dear Sirs, When a planet signifies only one of the houses II, VII or XI, it may sgnify marriage but it also signifies many more maters. It it signify any 2 of then it is stronger for marriage and if signifies all three than it is very strong indeed. But one cannot give any guerenty that it gives marriage it its sub lord does not support these houses or at least neutral. And it won't giveif it signifies the negating houses. Dr. Luther Rath. Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >kpsystem groups <@gro ups.com>Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:30:23 AM Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Members Mr.Mohankumar has published a book “MK’s Predictive Techniques in KP Astrologyâ€. In that book fruitful significators for marriage from Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory is explained as below. House Cusp Signlord Cusp Starlord Cusp Sublord Cusp SubSublord 2 Mars Mercury Mercury Venus 7 Mars Venus Mars Moon 11 Sun Venus Mars Ketu According to Dr.KAR’s theory, the common planets in the cuspal positions of 2,7,11 are the strongest significators. Here Mars and Venus are the strong significators( repeated) . Marriage will occur in the period of Mars or Venus.. Dr..KAR gave importance to cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord also. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Dear Forum Friends,I am happy to be back with you all after a lapse. As the Secretary, I was quite busy with the 10 th Annual Conference of our Salem PAVARS Astrological Society, (held on 18th Jan. last) headed by our Master Shri.A.Vaithialingam Sir, Salem. Ours is an outstanding MEET with a regular gathering of nearly 700 to 800 people. Our Annual Souvenir, released on the OCCASION, is a much sought one by astrologers of our region, wherein many of our Member-Stalwarts present their experiences with KP Astrological principles as essays, as a token of tribute to our great Guruji Shri.KSK. Preparing this esteemed Souvenir is my major contribution every year. This year, the highlight of the program was the publication of my First Text Book on KPAstrology, by title "IN-DEPTH SECRETS OF PLANETS - MK's Techniques in KP Astrology."(In Tamil) Rs.180/- (to be released in English soon).THANKS TO OUR FRIEND Mr.DHANABALAN JI, for having mentioned about my book to this Forum members.The above book of mine is an intense research study on the intricasies of KP Astrology and the related Theories, like KAR's CMT and MST, 'Sublord Speaks', Cuspal Interlinks. etc.While it gives a critical note on the above theories, it also presents a possible solution to tackle the problems arising in their applications. My successful findings at the SSS level of the Cuspal and Planetary positions, presented as MK's Techniques, will certainly be thought-provoking to the readers, I hope so.I shall be only glad to share my experiences with YOU ALL.Thanks again to Dhanabalan Ji.With regards to ALL of You.MKMOHAN KUMAR.R.Salem. Cell:99443-07025balan R <r.dhanabalan Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:37:47 PMRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Luther Purpose of my posting is that Dr.KAR considered the signlord and starlord of the cusp as significators. Now the debate going on in this forum is whether the signlord and starlord of the cusps are to be considered or not. Generally the KP astrologers starting point is cuspal sublord, neglecting the cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord. In the original volumes of KP 1965, the cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord are taken as significators. In the cuspal interlinks, the cuspal starlord is considered as significator. Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, January 28, 2009, 2:55 AM Dear Sirs, When a planet signifies only one of the houses II, VII or XI, it may sgnify marriage but it also signifies many more maters. It it signify any 2 of then it is stronger for marriage and if signifies all three than it is very strong indeed. But one cannot give any guerenty that it gives marriage it its sub lord does not support these houses or at least neutral. And it won't giveif it signifies the negating houses. Dr. Luther Rath. Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >kpsystem groups <@gro ups.com>Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:30:23 AM Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Members Mr.Mohankumar has published a book “MK’s Predictive Techniques in KP Astrologyâ€. In that book fruitful significators for marriage from Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory is explained as below. House Cusp Signlord Cusp Starlord Cusp Sublord Cusp SubSublord 2 Mars Mercury Mercury Venus 7 Mars Venus Mars Moon 11 Sun Venus Mars Ketu According to Dr.KAR’s theory, the common planets in the cuspal positions of 2,7,11 are the strongest significators. Here Mars and Venus are the strong significators( repeated) . Marriage will occur in the period of Mars or Venus.. Dr..KAR gave importance to cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord also. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Dear MK,Nice to see u after a long vacation.My warmest regards for yr laboring for the sake of KPSunaparanthaMohan Kumar Ragunathan <mk_astrology Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:40:49 PMRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Forum Friends,I am happy to be back with you all after a lapse. As the Secretary, I was quite busy with the 10 th Annual Conference of our Salem PAVARS Astrological Society, (held on 18th Jan. last) headed by our Master Shri.A.Vaithialinga m Sir, Salem. Ours is an outstanding MEET with a regular gathering of nearly 700 to 800 people. Our Annual Souvenir, released on the OCCASION, is a much sought one by astrologers of our region, wherein many of our Member-Stalwarts present their experiences with KP Astrological principles as essays, as a token of tribute to our great Guruji Shri.KSK. Preparing this esteemed Souvenir is my major contribution every year. This year, the highlight of the program was the publication of my First Text Book on KPAstrology, by title "IN-DEPTH SECRETS OF PLANETS - MK's Techniques in KP Astrology."(In Tamil) Rs.180/- (to be released in English soon).THANKS TO OUR FRIEND Mr.DHANABALAN JI, for having mentioned about my book to this Forum members.The above book of mine is an intense research study on the intricasies of KP Astrology and the related Theories, like KAR's CMT and MST, 'Sublord Speaks', Cuspal Interlinks. etc..While it gives a critical note on the above theories, it also presents a possible solution to tackle the problems arising in their applications. My successful findings at the SSS level of the Cuspal and Planetary positions, presented as MK's Techniques, will certainly be thought-provoking to the readers, I hope so.I shall be only glad to share my experiences with YOU ALL.Thanks again to Dhanabalan Ji.With regards to ALL of You.MKMOHAN KUMAR.R.Salem. Cell:99443-07025balan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, January 28, 2009 5:37:47 PMRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Luther Purpose of my posting is that Dr.KAR considered the signlord and starlord of the cusp as significators. Now the debate going on in this forum is whether the signlord and starlord of the cusps are to be considered or not. Generally the KP astrologers starting point is cuspal sublord, neglecting the cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord. In the original volumes of KP 1965, the cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord are taken as significators. In the cuspal interlinks, the cuspal starlord is considered as significator. Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, January 28, 2009, 2:55 AM Dear Sirs, When a planet signifies only one of the houses II, VII or XI, it may sgnify marriage but it also signifies many more maters. It it signify any 2 of then it is stronger for marriage and if signifies all three than it is very strong indeed. But one cannot give any guerenty that it gives marriage it its sub lord does not support these houses or at least neutral. And it won't giveif it signifies the negating houses. Dr. Luther Rath. Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >kpsystem groups <@gro ups.com>Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:30:23 AM Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Members Mr.Mohankumar has published a book “MK’s Predictive Techniques in KP Astrologyâ€. In that book fruitful significators for marriage from Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory is explained as below. House Cusp Signlord Cusp Starlord Cusp Sublord Cusp SubSublord 2 Mars Mercury Mercury Venus 7 Mars Venus Mars Moon 11 Sun Venus Mars Ketu According to Dr.KAR’s theory, the common planets in the cuspal positions of 2,7,11 are the strongest significators. Here Mars and Venus are the strong significators( repeated) . Marriage will occur in the period of Mars or Venus.. Dr..KAR gave importance to cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord also. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Dear Sunapranantha Sir,My Pranams to You and all our Forum Friends.Your words encourage me. And that's what is needed for the betterment of this Divine Science.THANK YOU VERY MUCH.MK.Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:04:46 PMRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear MK,Nice to see u after a long vacation.My warmest regards for yr laboring for the sake of KPSunaparanthaMohan Kumar Ragunathan <mk_astrology@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, January 28, 2009 10:40:49 PMRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Forum Friends,I am happy to be back with you all after a lapse. As the Secretary, I was quite busy with the 10 th Annual Conference of our Salem PAVARS Astrological Society, (held on 18th Jan. last) headed by our Master Shri.A.Vaithialinga m Sir, Salem. Ours is an outstanding MEET with a regular gathering of nearly 700 to 800 people. Our Annual Souvenir, released on the OCCASION, is a much sought one by astrologers of our region, wherein many of our Member-Stalwarts present their experiences with KP Astrological principles as essays, as a token of tribute to our great Guruji Shri.KSK. Preparing this esteemed Souvenir is my major contribution every year. This year, the highlight of the program was the publication of my First Text Book on KPAstrology, by title "IN-DEPTH SECRETS OF PLANETS - MK's Techniques in KP Astrology."(In Tamil) Rs.180/- (to be released in English soon).THANKS TO OUR FRIEND Mr.DHANABALAN JI, for having mentioned about my book to this Forum members.The above book of mine is an intense research study on the intricasies of KP Astrology and the related Theories, like KAR's CMT and MST, 'Sublord Speaks', Cuspal Interlinks. etc..While it gives a critical note on the above theories, it also presents a possible solution to tackle the problems arising in their applications. My successful findings at the SSS level of the Cuspal and Planetary positions, presented as MK's Techniques, will certainly be thought-provoking to the readers, I hope so.I shall be only glad to share my experiences with YOU ALL.Thanks again to Dhanabalan Ji.With regards to ALL of You.MKMOHAN KUMAR.R.Salem. Cell:99443-07025balan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, January 28, 2009 5:37:47 PMRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Luther Purpose of my posting is that Dr.KAR considered the signlord and starlord of the cusp as significators. Now the debate going on in this forum is whether the signlord and starlord of the cusps are to be considered or not. Generally the KP astrologers starting point is cuspal sublord, neglecting the cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord. In the original volumes of KP 1965, the cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord are taken as significators. In the cuspal interlinks, the cuspal starlord is considered as significator. Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, January 28, 2009, 2:55 AM Dear Sirs, When a planet signifies only one of the houses II, VII or XI, it may sgnify marriage but it also signifies many more maters. It it signify any 2 of then it is stronger for marriage and if signifies all three than it is very strong indeed. But one cannot give any guerenty that it gives marriage it its sub lord does not support these houses or at least neutral. And it won't giveif it signifies the negating houses. Dr. Luther Rath. Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >kpsystem groups <@gro ups.com>Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:30:23 AM Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Members Mr.Mohankumar has published a book “MK’s Predictive Techniques in KP Astrologyâ€. In that book fruitful significators for marriage from Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory is explained as below. House Cusp Signlord Cusp Starlord Cusp Sublord Cusp SubSublord 2 Mars Mercury Mercury Venus 7 Mars Venus Mars Moon 11 Sun Venus Mars Ketu According to Dr.KAR’s theory, the common planets in the cuspal positions of 2,7,11 are the strongest significators. Here Mars and Venus are the strong significators( repeated) . Marriage will occur in the period of Mars or Venus.. Dr..KAR gave importance to cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord also. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Dear Punit Pandey Ji,I am sorry. I don't get your point. I hope this is not a discouragement.Mr.Dhanbalan has shown what is what by different scholars.He has mentioned about Dr.KAR's idea as presented in my book. My Book contains much more than your present comprehension about it, especially the SIGNIFICATOR concept.SubSub is not a risky tool for me. I have dealt with even SubSubSub-SSS in a clear-cut manner.I wish you wait for a while for the English Version of my book.Your notion about KP- or the Original KP, so to say - is not questioned.But, developments, in general, need encouragement and support. My book presents one such development on KP principles. I am aware that my book will make some ripples in the minds of strict KP followers or otherwise.Anyhow, I respect your feelings.My Pranams to all KP Stalwarts.MKPunit Pandey <punitp Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:33:22 PMRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Dhanabalan ji/ Mohankumar ji, In KP, owners are considered among weakest significators and probably that is the reason cuspal nakshatra lord and cuspal sub lord has not been assigned house signification. In KP, occupants are the more powerful significators and that is the reason, in terms of selection of significators, any theory just relying on cuspal ownership based for significator selection looks contrary to KP. I have already talked about some of the practical, mathematical, and astronomical issues related to sub sub and that makes sub sub a risky tool for prediction. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Members Mr.Mohankumar has published a book "MK's Predictive Techniques in KP Astrology". In that book fruitful significators for marriage from Dr.KAR's Cuspal Method Theory is explained as below. House Cusp Signlord Cusp Starlord Cusp Sublord Cusp SubSublord 2 Mars Mercury Mercury Venus 7 Mars Venus Mars Moon 11 Sun Venus Mars Ketu According to Dr.KAR's theory, the common planets in the cuspal positions of 2,7,11 are the strongest significators. Here Mars and Venus are the strong significators( repeated) . Marriage will occur in the period of Mars or Venus. Dr.KAR gave importance to cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord also. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Dear Adith, I have quoted KSK and his eminent disciple Mr.Balasunderam & Mr.A.R Raichur,who have cleared the air in the preface to their excellent Book,UNIVERSAL TABLE OF HOUSES... that the correct TOB is at the first cry of the newborm infant...(in K.P. this is the recognised method). With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath Sent: Friday, 30 January, 2009 6:42:27 AMRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear,On the other thread we are having discussions on the BTR where a lot of possibilities of incorrect Birth time even for few minutes as we have contra in the finding the time whether it is first breath/cry/body out etc., and also the difference in the time shown in the Clocks within the particular occasion between the hospital's and the parents and the standard time. When these small difference may cause change in the Sublord level itself in the Cusp, following of Sub Sub or Sub Sub Sub for predictions will definitely be too Risky ! When trying for predictions on deep and deeper level of subs, one can miss the Basic Target , if the vital part of the Birth time is not correct and as there is no standard authentic method to rectify the same! Of course if the Birth time is accurate , yes...the deeper studies may be of more useful !RegardsAdith On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Dhanabalan ji/ Mohankumar ji, In KP, owners are considered among weakest significators and probably that is the reason cuspal nakshatra lord and cuspal sub lord has not been assigned house signification. In KP, occupants are the more powerful significators and that is the reason, in terms of selection of significators, any theory just relying on cuspal ownership based for significator selection looks contrary to KP. I have already talked about some of the practical, mathematical, and astronomical issues related to sub sub and that makes sub sub a risky tool for prediction. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Members Mr.Mohankumar has published a book "MK's Predictive Techniques in KP Astrology". In that book fruitful significators for marriage from Dr.KAR's Cuspal Method Theory is explained as below. House Cusp Signlord Cusp Starlord Cusp Sublord Cusp SubSublord 2 Mars Mercury Mercury Venus 7 Mars Venus Mars Moon 11 Sun Venus Mars Ketu According to Dr.KAR's theory, the common planets in the cuspal positions of 2,7,11 are the strongest significators. Here Mars and Venus are the strong significators( repeated) . Marriage will occur in the period of Mars or Venus. Dr.KAR gave importance to cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord also. Dhanabalan Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Dear Punit Pandey Ji, Thank You very much for your reply on my doubts about your previous comment.It was only a doubt and not a defense on my part.I do give the Occupant of a House due weight age, unlike others as you have mentioned.We need not enforce KP strictly upon the newcomers. In my experience, unless one is much educated and makes an intense study of it, one cannot clearly decipher the inner meaning of KP principles from the Readers. KP Readers are of a high standard for them.Our duty, as KP followers, is to simplify the Basic Rules and make them easily reach the astrological community.KP will certainly get its due credit to the full extent in the coming days, for which guidance from stalwarts like you is a must and a most welcome one.On Sub-Sub or SubSubSub:Being critical is certainly a welcome sign for development in any field.The SubSub Master, Dr.KAR's ideas have influenced many KP followers right from his debut on the subject in 1974. That the Chennai KP Authorities themselves have been publishing ideas and interpretations on SubSub in their own Magazines and Books tells about its greatness or encouragement for development of the science to the least.I don't think SubSub or SSS is so intriguing or confusing.In a KP chart, we arrive at a Degree-Minute-Second for all Cuspal and Planetary Nirayana Positions, using any Ayanamsa value, Geocentric Latitudes, LMT and so on.This Deg-Min-Sec, so arrived at, will certainly have a SubSub and SSS factor within itself. The fact is that not many of us (but for KAR's followers) are aware of it or have tried using these factors anyway so far. You may be aware of a Book published much long back. Stalwart Shri. Eswar Manu's "Astrological Tables For All" came with a clear and correct SubSub Table. This book was the first of its kind in KP World. I have the original edition of it.When the fact is so, if you apply the basic principles propounded for Sublords at a deeper level, astrological reasoning, (just as claimed by KP over the Traditional system) will be more evident and convincing, be it a happy event or an unhappy event in a native's life. Life events can be tallied perfectly at a deeper level,say SSS.This is the gist of my present Book "DEEP SECRETS OF PLANETS - MK's Techniques in KP Astrology".Does this kind of approach stay out of line with KP? Oh, NO. NOT CERTAINLY! Even it is so, as you feel, staying in line with KP or take a diversion or take a step ahead is one's own wish as a means to reach one's own goal, at least I feel so.I don't understand such a defense in favour of KP - crying out "No. This is not KP. Has KSK said like that? It is not mentioned in 'The Readers'..." and so on. Let us not give way for any prejudice, please. In my knowledge of astrology, I know nothing but KP. No other Traditional concepts of any sort.I personally feel our goal should be to make Astrology a successful tool for mankind. Theories should only help us to reach this goal. A Theory need not be AN END by itself. It should be only a MEANS TO AN END.For example, there may be many political parties with different notions and policies. But "ONLY DEMOCRACY SHOULD BE THE END GOAL" for a nation like us.Am I right, friend? I sincerely beg your pardon if my words are wrong somewhere in the above lines.It is only a friendly gesture to make things clear for the benefit of all.Welcome with your views, Punit Ji.With High Regards,MK. Punit Pandey <punitp Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:31:09 PMRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Mohankumar ji,My point is that if we are ignoring occupants of a house and the planets in the nakshatra of the occupants from the list of significators, this method of significator selection is contradictory to the KP. As we know occupants are stronger than the owner in KP. I am not aware of your theory, so I was not commenting specifically on that. But there are theories which does it and in my opnion, those are not in line of KP. It doesn't mean that those theories are incorrect, but simply means that those are not in line with KP and contradicts basic principle of KP. There are quite a few beginners and KP students in this forum, and purpose of my email was to clarify this so that they don't confuse in significator selection of KP with other methods. This was the only reason for my writing that email and that was not to discourage you or anybody. I am critical to sub-sub and sub-sub-sub etc. and I have shared my concerns recently in this forum. Please check some of the old emails on this topic and try to respond based on your understanding. Being a software engineer and a student of celestial astronomy, I believe that there is some inherent inaccuracy in calculations and without a method of tallying sub-sub or sub-sub-sub with the life events, it is very risky to use them. Also, because cuspal sub-sub changes in few seconds, in my opinion, it gives an astrologer a way to easily prove or disprove anything, as with slight change we can come up with the different sub-sub and hence different justification of predictions. This is just my personal opinion and it doesn't prohibit anybody from using sub-sub. Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <mk_astrology@ > wrote: Dear Punit Pandey Ji,I am sorry. I don't get your point. I hope this is not a discouragement.Mr.Dhanbalan has shown what is what by different scholars.He has mentioned about Dr.KAR's idea as presented in my book. My Book contains much more than your present comprehension about it, especially the SIGNIFICATOR concept.SubSub is not a risky tool for me. I have dealt with even SubSubSub-SSS in a clear-cut manner.I wish you wait for a while for the English Version of my book. Your notion about KP- or the Original KP, so to say - is not questioned.But, developments, in general, need encouragement and support. My book presents one such development on KP principles. I am aware that my book will make some ripples in the minds of strict KP followers or otherwise.Anyhow, I respect your feelings.My Pranams to all KP Stalwarts.MK Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:33:22 PMRe: Dr.KAR's Cuspal Method Theory Dear Dhanabalan ji/ Mohankumar ji, In KP, owners are considered among weakest significators and probably that is the reason cuspal nakshatra lord and cuspal sub lord has not been assigned house signification. In KP, occupants are the more powerful significators and that is the reason, in terms of selection of significators, any theory just relying on cuspal ownership based for significator selection looks contrary to KP. I have already talked about some of the practical, mathematical, and astronomical issues related to sub sub and that makes sub sub a risky tool for prediction. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Members Mr.Mohankumar has published a book "MK's Predictive Techniques in KP Astrology". In that book fruitful significators for marriage from Dr.KAR's Cuspal Method Theory is explained as below. House Cusp Signlord Cusp Starlord Cusp Sublord Cusp SubSublord 2 Mars Mercury Mercury Venus 7 Mars Venus Mars Moon 11 Sun Venus Mars Ketu According to Dr.KAR's theory, the common planets in the cuspal positions of 2,7,11 are the strongest significators. Here Mars and Venus are the strong significators( repeated) . Marriage will occur in the period of Mars or Venus. Dr.KAR gave importance to cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord also. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009  Dear Sir, Kindly announce when your book on 'Deep Secrets of Planets in KP Astro' English version is ready for release. I am interested to get one. If it could be available from any book dealers at Chennai, the address of them may also be given. Otherwise I will approach you direct. Thanking you, K.S.V. Ramani - Mohan Kumar Ragunathan Friday, January 30, 2009 6:19 PM Re: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Punit Pandey Ji, Thank You very much for your reply on my doubts about your previous comment.It was only a doubt and not a defense on my part.I do give the Occupant of a House due weight age, unlike others as you have mentioned.We need not enforce KP strictly upon the newcomers. In my experience, unless one is much educated and makes an intense study of it, one cannot clearly decipher the inner meaning of KP principles from the Readers. KP Readers are of a high standard for them.Our duty, as KP followers, is to simplify the Basic Rules and make them easily reach the astrological community.KP will certainly get its due credit to the full extent in the coming days, for which guidance from stalwarts like you is a must and a most welcome one.On Sub-Sub or SubSubSub:Being critical is certainly a welcome sign for development in any field.The SubSub Master, Dr.KAR's ideas have influenced many KP followers right from his debut on the subject in 1974. That the Chennai KP Authorities themselves have been publishing ideas and interpretations on SubSub in their own Magazines and Books tells about its greatness or encouragement for development of the science to the least.I don't think SubSub or SSS is so intriguing or confusing.In a KP chart, we arrive at a Degree-Minute-Second for all Cuspal and Planetary Nirayana Positions, using any Ayanamsa value, Geocentric Latitudes, LMT and so on.This Deg-Min-Sec, so arrived at, will certainly have a SubSub and SSS factor within itself. The fact is that not many of us (but for KAR's followers) are aware of it or have tried using these factors anyway so far. You may be aware of a Book published much long back. Stalwart Shri. Eswar Manu's "Astrological Tables For All" came with a clear and correct SubSub Table. This book was the first of its kind in KP World. I have the original edition of it.When the fact is so, if you apply the basic principles propounded for Sublords at a deeper level, astrological reasoning, (just as claimed by KP over the Traditional system) will be more evident and convincing, be it a happy event or an unhappy event in a native's life. Life events can be tallied perfectly at a deeper level,say SSS.This is the gist of my present Book "DEEP SECRETS OF PLANETS - MK's Techniques in KP Astrology".Does this kind of approach stay out of line with KP? Oh, NO. NOT CERTAINLY! Even it is so, as you feel, staying in line with KP or take a diversion or take a step ahead is one's own wish as a means to reach one's own goal, at least I feel so.I don't understand such a defense in favour of KP - crying out "No. This is not KP. Has KSK said like that? It is not mentioned in 'The Readers'..." and so on. Let us not give way for any prejudice, please. In my knowledge of astrology, I know nothing but KP. No other Traditional concepts of any sort.I personally feel our goal should be to make Astrology a successful tool for mankind. Theories should only help us to reach this goal. A Theory need not be AN END by itself. It should be only a MEANS TO AN END.For example, there may be many political parties with different notions and policies. But "ONLY DEMOCRACY SHOULD BE THE END GOAL" for a nation like us.Am I right, friend? I sincerely beg your pardon if my words are wrong somewhere in the above lines.It is only a friendly gesture to make things clear for the benefit of all.Welcome with your views, Punit Ji.With High Regards,MK. Punit Pandey <punitp > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:31:09 PMRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Mohankumar ji,My point is that if we are ignoring occupants of a house and the planets in the nakshatra of the occupants from the list of significators, this method of significator selection is contradictory to the KP. As we know occupants are stronger than the owner in KP. I am not aware of your theory, so I was not commenting specifically on that. But there are theories which does it and in my opnion, those are not in line of KP. It doesn't mean that those theories are incorrect, but simply means that those are not in line with KP and contradicts basic principle of KP. There are quite a few beginners and KP students in this forum, and purpose of my email was to clarify this so that they don't confuse in significator selection of KP with other methods. This was the only reason for my writing that email and that was not to discourage you or anybody. I am critical to sub-sub and sub-sub-sub etc. and I have shared my concerns recently in this forum. Please check some of the old emails on this topic and try to respond based on your understanding. Being a software engineer and a student of celestial astronomy, I believe that there is some inherent inaccuracy in calculations and without a method of tallying sub-sub or sub-sub-sub with the life events, it is very risky to use them. Also, because cuspal sub-sub changes in few seconds, in my opinion, it gives an astrologer a way to easily prove or disprove anything, as with slight change we can come up with the different sub-sub and hence different justification of predictions. This is just my personal opinion and it doesn't prohibit anybody from using sub-sub. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <mk_astrology@ > wrote: Dear Punit Pandey Ji,I am sorry. I don't get your point. I hope this is not a discouragement.Mr.Dhanbalan has shown what is what by different scholars.He has mentioned about Dr.KAR's idea as presented in my book. My Book contains much more than your present comprehension about it, especially the SIGNIFICATOR concept.SubSub is not a risky tool for me. I have dealt with even SubSubSub-SSS in a clear-cut manner.I wish you wait for a while for the English Version of my book.Your notion about KP- or the Original KP, so to say - is not questioned.But, developments, in general, need encouragement and support. My book presents one such development on KP principles. I am aware that my book will make some ripples in the minds of strict KP followers or otherwise.Anyhow, I respect your feelings.My Pranams to all KP Stalwarts.MK Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.comThursday, January 29, 2009 7:33:22 PMRe: Dr.KAR's Cuspal Method Theory Dear Dhanabalan ji/ Mohankumar ji, In KP, owners are considered among weakest significators and probably that is the reason cuspal nakshatra lord and cuspal sub lord has not been assigned house signification. In KP, occupants are the more powerful significators and that is the reason, in terms of selection of significators, any theory just relying on cuspal ownership based for significator selection looks contrary to KP. I have already talked about some of the practical, mathematical, and astronomical issues related to sub sub and that makes sub sub a risky tool for prediction. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: Dear Members Mr.Mohankumar has published a book "MK's Predictive Techniques in KP Astrology". In that book fruitful significators for marriage from Dr.KAR's Cuspal Method Theory is explained as below. House Cusp Signlord Cusp Starlord Cusp Sublord Cusp SubSublord 2 Mars Mercury Mercury Venus 7 Mars Venus Mars Moon 11 Sun Venus Mars Ketu According to Dr.KAR's theory, the common planets in the cuspal positions of 2,7,11 are the strongest significators. Here Mars and Venus are the strong significators( repeated) . Marriage will occur in the period of Mars or Venus. Dr.KAR gave importance to cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord also. Dhanabalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Dear Sir, I would like to know whether ur English version is published and if so where it is availabe in Mumbai. with warm regards N.SURYANARAYAN--- On Thu, 29/1/09, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <mk_astrology wrote: Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <mk_astrologyRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Date: Thursday, 29 January, 2009, 8:31 PM Dear Sunapranantha Sir,My Pranams to You and all our Forum Friends.Your words encourage me. And that's what is needed for the betterment of this Divine Science.THANK YOU VERY MUCH.MK. Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comThursday, January 29, 2009 7:04:46 PMRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear MK,Nice to see u after a long vacation.My warmest regards for yr laboring for the sake of KPSunaparantha Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <mk_astrology@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, January 28, 2009 10:40:49 PMRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Forum Friends,I am happy to be back with you all after a lapse. As the Secretary, I was quite busy with the 10 th Annual Conference of our Salem PAVARS Astrological Society, (held on 18th Jan. last) headed by our Master Shri.A.Vaithialinga m Sir, Salem. Ours is an outstanding MEET with a regular gathering of nearly 700 to 800 people. Our Annual Souvenir, released on the OCCASION, is a much sought one by astrologers of our region, wherein many of our Member-Stalwarts present their experiences with KP Astrological principles as essays, as a token of tribute to our great Guruji Shri.KSK. Preparing this esteemed Souvenir is my major contribution every year. This year, the highlight of the program was the publication of my First Text Book on KPAstrology, by title "IN-DEPTH SECRETS OF PLANETS - MK's Techniques in KP Astrology."(In Tamil) Rs.180/- (to be released in English soon).THANKS TO OUR FRIEND Mr.DHANABALAN JI, for having mentioned about my book to this Forum members.The above book of mine is an intense research study on the intricasies of KP Astrology and the related Theories, like KAR's CMT and MST, 'Sublord Speaks', Cuspal Interlinks. etc..While it gives a critical note on the above theories, it also presents a possible solution to tackle the problems arising in their applications. My successful findings at the SSS level of the Cuspal and Planetary positions, presented as MK's Techniques, will certainly be thought-provoking to the readers, I hope so.I shall be only glad to share my experiences with YOU ALL.Thanks again to Dhanabalan Ji.With regards to ALL of You.MKMOHAN KUMAR.R.Salem. Cell:99443-07025 balan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, January 28, 2009 5:37:47 PMRe: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Luther Purpose of my posting is that Dr.KAR considered the signlord and starlord of the cusp as significators. Now the debate going on in this forum is whether the signlord and starlord of the cusps are to be considered or not. Generally the KP astrologers starting point is cuspal sublord, neglecting the cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord. In the original volumes of KP 1965, the cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord are taken as significators. In the cuspal interlinks, the cuspal starlord is considered as significator. Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, January 28, 2009, 2:55 AM Dear Sirs, When a planet signifies only one of the houses II, VII or XI, it may sgnify marriage but it also signifies many more maters. It it signify any 2 of then it is stronger for marriage and if signifies all three than it is very strong indeed. But one cannot give any guerenty that it gives marriage it its sub lord does not support these houses or at least neutral. And it won't giveif it signifies the negating houses. Dr. Luther Rath. Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >kpsystem groups <@gro ups.com>Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:30:23 AM Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory Dear Members Mr.Mohankumar has published a book “MK’s Predictive Techniques in KP Astrologyâ€. In that book fruitful significators for marriage from Dr.KAR’s Cuspal Method Theory is explained as below. House Cusp Signlord Cusp Starlord Cusp Sublord Cusp SubSublord 2 Mars Mercury Mercury Venus 7 Mars Venus Mars Moon 11 Sun Venus Mars Ketu According to Dr.KAR’s theory, the common planets in the cuspal positions of 2,7,11 are the strongest significators. Here Mars and Venus are the strong significators( repeated) . Marriage will occur in the period of Mars or Venus.. Dr..KAR gave importance to cuspal signlord and cuspal starlord also. Dhanabalan Check out the all-new face of India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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