Guest guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Dear members, 6th house signifies increase in bank position and also signifies repayment of debt. Does it imply that every individual running dasa, bhukti of 6 would be repaying loan ? iam sure NO. My question, how does one know that he would never take a loan in life or he would never be in debts. Also is it possible to confirm that in a particular period an individual doesnt have any loan on his head and would be debt free. If yes , which houses should the lords of such period signify. request seniors to educate on this. A serious and most talked about issue in these current times of recession. regards, Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Dear Ajoy, //  6th house signifies increase in bank position and also signifies repayment of debt. Does it imply that every individual running dasa, bhukti of 6 would be repaying loan ?  iam sure NO// What You are talking is contradictory. How can the 6th House show increase in Bank position and at same time show decrease, by repayment of debts, as you say because when you repay , would not your Bank balance become less ? This is not possible. You will have to get your facts right here. The former part of your statement is right, as the 6th shows increase in Bank position by Payments received for goods sold, or services given, by Brokerage or commissions received, by salaries and remuneration's received, AND by Taking Loan from Bank, but NOT Repayment of Loans. That is shown by the 12th house. The 6th shows inflow of money while the 12th shows outflows. So no question of any implication of anyone repaying a Loan. // My question, how does one know that he would never take a loan in life or he would never be in debts.  Also is it possible to confirm that in a particular period an individual doesn't have any loan on his head and would be debt free. If yes , which houses should the lords of such period signify.// First of all, understand that there are millions and trillions of activities a man does during his Life time, which are all represented and divided and denoted and signified by the 12 houses in the Birth Chart. (Remember this very well that millions and trillions of a humans activities are divided into just 12 categories). Now the 4th House may show, Mother, Vehicle, Primary Education, Domestic environment, Chest region, Water , Construction, Wealth of Co-borns, Foreign journeys of child, and thousands and thousands of such other matters. Now just because you see in a chart that this native is running the Bhukti of the Planet showing the 4th House, then are you going to predict all the thousands of results for this native ? No. That would depend specifically on what the native is asking and not on all attributes of the 4th house, of which few may manifest in his Life, while others may not. This will depend on his age, question, circumstances and other factors which would require commonsense on the part of the astrologer. For instance a native of age 75 running Bhukthi of planet signifying 5th house and predicting him a Love affair or a child at his age would sound insane. Is it not ? But any query related to speculation would sound senseful and of meaning. An astrologer must never talk more than necessary or try to predict more than what is asked. Be specific. There's no reason for us to check whether one would have a Loan or not in his Life, or whether one would have a Love affair in his Life or whether he would be having a vehicle or not, UNLESS the Question comes to the astrologer. But to answer your query, Loans would be re-paid in the Bhukti of the planet signifying the 12th house.And if the houses of gains are strong, and the planets are mostly in the stars of the planets owning these houses, theres no reason for the native to take Loan. Is there ? Especially if these planets are running their major or minor periods in the natives Life in his youthful or old age. If the native does not have the 6th house running at all in his Life, and just the 2nd and the 11th house running, then its a sure shot Horoscope of the native not taking Loans ever in his Life. But such Horoscopes are hard to see. Even the Big Corporates are doing bnusiness with Public money received as Share application money, or Mutual Fund Units. Such type of studies are irrelevant actually and a waste of time, because one sees a mixed Horoscope normally, and you must, as said before stick to the specific Queries put at a specific point of time, and focus on studying the predictions for the same, and not bother about Whole Life predictions which is actually just not possible humanly and a futile attempt, only meant as a luxurious utility of time, for those whose stomachs are full, and have all the time in the world. . The seniors may correct me if I am wrong. regards, Bhaskar. , "ajoy s. chomaal" <ajoy_matchless wrote:>> Dear members,>  >  6th house signifies increase in bank position and also signifies repayment of debt. Does it imply that every individual running dasa, bhukti of 6 would be repaying loan ?  iam sure NO. My question, how does one know that he would never take a loan in life or he would never be in debts.  Also is it possible to confirm that in a particular period an individual doesnt have any loan on his head and would be debt free. If yes , which houses should the lords of such period signify. >  > request seniors to educate on this. A serious and most talked about issue in these current times of recession. > > regards,> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Dear Ajoy, I believe and fully support what Mr Bhaskar as stated or explained. It is realy waste of time of an astrologer to calculate the day to day events for a life time of an individual.. Dr. Luther Rath Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2009 10:59:22 PM Re: debt significance Dear Ajoy, //  6th house signifies increase in bank position and also signifies repayment of debt. Does it imply that every individual running dasa, bhukti of 6 would be repaying loan ?  iam sure NO// What You are talking is contradictory. How can the 6th House show increase in Bank position and at same time show decrease, by repayment of debts, as you say because when you repay , would not your Bank balance become less ? This is not possible. You will have to get your facts right here.. The former part of your statement is right, as the 6th shows increase in Bank position by Payments received for goods sold, or services given, by Brokerage or commissions received, by salaries and remuneration' s received, AND by Taking Loan from Bank, but NOT Repayment of Loans. That is shown by the 12th house. The 6th shows inflow of money while the 12th shows outflows.. So no question of any implication of anyone repaying a Loan. // My question, how does one know that he would never take a loan in life or he would never be in debts.  Also is it possible to confirm that in a particular period an individual doesn't have any loan on his head and would be debt free. If yes , which houses should the lords of such period signify.// First of all, understand that there are millions and trillions of activities a man does during his Life time, which are all represented and divided and denoted and signified by the 12 houses in the Birth Chart. (Remember this very well that millions and trillions of a humans activities are divided into just 12 categories). Now the 4th House may show, Mother, Vehicle, Primary Education, Domestic environment, Chest region, Water , Construction, Wealth of Co-borns, Foreign journeys of child, and thousands and thousands of such other matters. Now just because you see in a chart that this native is running the Bhukti of the Planet showing the 4th House, then are you going to predict all the thousands of results for this native ? No. That would depend specifically on what the native is asking and not on all attributes of the 4th house, of which few may manifest in his Life, while others may not. This will depend on his age, question, circumstances and other factors which would require commonsense on the part of the astrologer. For instance a native of age 75 running Bhukthi of planet signifying 5th house and predicting him a Love affair or a child at his age would sound insane. Is it not ? But any query related to speculation would sound senseful and of meaning. An astrologer must never talk more than necessary or try to predict more than what is asked. Be specific. There's no reason for us to check whether one would have a Loan or not in his Life, or whether one would have a Love affair in his Life or whether he would be having a vehicle or not, UNLESS the Question comes to the astrologer. But to answer your query, Loans would be re-paid in the Bhukti of the planet signifying the 12th house.And if the houses of gains are strong, and the planets are mostly in the stars of the planets owning these houses, theres no reason for the native to take Loan. Is there ? Especially if these planets are running their major or minor periods in the natives Life in his youthful or old age. If the native does not have the 6th house running at all in his Life, and just the 2nd and the 11th house running, then its a sure shot Horoscope of the native not taking Loans ever in his Life. But such Horoscopes are hard to see. Even the Big Corporates are doing bnusiness with Public money received as Share application money, or Mutual Fund Units. Such type of studies are irrelevant actually and a waste of time, because one sees a mixed Horoscope normally, and you must, as said before stick to the specific Queries put at a specific point of time, and focus on studying the predictions for the same, and not bother about Whole Life predictions which is actually just not possible humanly and a futile attempt, only meant as a luxurious utility of time, for those whose stomachs are full, and have all the time in the world. . The seniors may correct me if I am wrong. regards, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, "ajoy s. chomaal" <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:>> Dear members,>  >  6th house signifies increase in bank position and also signifies repayment of debt. Does it imply that every individual running dasa, bhukti of 6 would be repaying loan ?  iam sure NO. My question, how does one know that he would never take a loan in life or he would never be in debts.  Also is it possible to confirm that in a particular period an individual doesnt have any loan on his head and would be debt free. If yes , which houses should the lords of such period signify. >  > request seniors to educate on this. A serious and most talked about issue in these current times of recession. > > regards,> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Dear Mr. Bhaskar, Thanks for the revert. Point taken. RegardsSent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone Essar"Bhaskar" Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:29:22 -0000 Re: debt significance Dear Ajoy,//  6th house signifies increase in bank position and also signifies repayment of debt. Does it imply that every individual running dasa, bhukti of 6 would be repaying loan ?  iam sure NO// What You are talking is contradictory. How can the 6th House show increase in Bank position and at same time show decrease, by repayment of debts, as you say because when you repay , would not your Bank balance become less ? This is not possible. You will have to get your facts right here. The former part of your statement is right, as the 6th shows increase in Bank position by Payments received for goods sold, or services given, by Brokerage or commissions received, by salaries and remuneration's received, AND by Taking Loan from Bank, but NOT Repayment of Loans. That is shown by the 12th house. The 6th shows inflow of money while the 12th shows outflows. So no question of any implication of anyone repaying a Loan. // My question, how does one know that he would never take a loan in life or he would never be in debts.  Also is it possible to confirm that in a particular period an individual doesn't have any loan on his head and would be debt free. If yes , which houses should the lords of such period signify.// First of all, understand that there are millions and trillions of activities a man does during his Life time, which are all represented and divided and denoted and signified by the 12 houses in the Birth Chart. (Remember this very well that millions and trillions of a humans activities are divided into just 12 categories). Now the 4th House may show, Mother, Vehicle, Primary Education, Domestic environment, Chest region, Water , Construction, Wealth of Co-borns, Foreign journeys of child, and thousands and thousands of such other matters. Now just because you see in a chart that this native is running the Bhukti of the Planet showing the 4th House, then are you going to predict all the thousands of results for this native ? No. That would depend specifically on what the native is asking and not on all attributes of the 4th house, of which few may manifest in his Life, while others may not. This will depend on his age, question, circumstances and other factors which would require commonsense on the part of the astrologer. For instance a native of age 75 running Bhukthi of planet signifying 5th house and predicting him a Love affair or a child at his age would sound insane. Is it not ? But any query related to speculation would sound senseful and of meaning. An astrologer must never talk more than necessary or try to predict more than what is asked. Be specific. There's no reason for us to check whether one would have a Loan or not in his Life, or whether one would have a Love affair in his Life or whether he would be having a vehicle or not, UNLESS the Question comes to the astrologer. But to answer your query, Loans would be re-paid in the Bhukti of the planet signifying the 12th house.And if the houses of gains are strong, and the planets are mostly in the stars of the planets owning these houses, theres no reason for the native to take Loan. Is there ? Especially if these planets are running their major or minor periods in the natives Life in his youthful or old age. If the native does not have the 6th house running at all in his Life, and just the 2nd and the 11th house running, then its a sure shot Horoscope of the native not taking Loans ever in his Life. But such Horoscopes are hard to see. Even the Big Corporates are doing bnusiness with Public money received as Share application money, or Mutual Fund Units. Such type of studies are irrelevant actually and a waste of time, because one sees a mixed Horoscope normally, and you must, as said before stick to the specific Queries put at a specific point of time, and focus on studying the predictions for the same, and not bother about Whole Life predictions which is actually just not possible humanly and a futile attempt, only meant as a luxurious utility of time, for those whose stomachs are full, and have all the time in the world. . The seniors may correct me if I am wrong. regards,Bhaskar. , "ajoy s. chomaal" <ajoy_matchless wrote:>> Dear members,>  >  6th house signifies increase in bank position and also signifies repayment of debt. Does it imply that every individual running dasa, bhukti of 6 would be repaying loan ?  iam sure NO. My question, how does one know that he would never take a loan in life or he would never be in debts.  Also is it possible to confirm that in a particular period an individual doesnt have any loan on his head and would be debt free. If yes , which houses should the lords of such period signify. >  > request seniors to educate on this. A serious and most talked about issue in these current times of recession. > > regards,> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Avert good posting. Keep it up raichur anant mumbai--- On Sat, 3/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: debt significance Date: Saturday, 3 January, 2009, 10:59 PM Dear Ajoy, //  6th house signifies increase in bank position and also signifies repayment of debt. Does it imply that every individual running dasa, bhukti of 6 would be repaying loan ?  iam sure NO// What You are talking is contradictory. How can the 6th House show increase in Bank position and at same time show decrease, by repayment of debts, as you say because when you repay , would not your Bank balance become less ? This is not possible. You will have to get your facts right here. The former part of your statement is right, as the 6th shows increase in Bank position by Payments received for goods sold, or services given, by Brokerage or commissions received, by salaries and remuneration's received, AND by Taking Loan from Bank, but NOT Repayment of Loans. That is shown by the 12th house. The 6th shows inflow of money while the 12th shows outflows. So no question of any implication of anyone repaying a Loan. // My question, how does one know that he would never take a loan in life or he would never be in debts.  Also is it possible to confirm that in a particular period an individual doesn't have any loan on his head and would be debt free. If yes , which houses should the lords of such period signify.// First of all, understand that there are millions and trillions of activities a man does during his Life time, which are all represented and divided and denoted and signified by the 12 houses in the Birth Chart. (Remember this very well that millions and trillions of a humans activities are divided into just 12 categories). Now the 4th House may show, Mother, Vehicle, Primary Education, Domestic environment, Chest region, Water , Construction, Wealth of Co-borns, Foreign journeys of child, and thousands and thousands of such other matters. Now just because you see in a chart that this native is running the Bhukti of the Planet showing the 4th House, then are you going to predict all the thousands of results for this native ? No. That would depend specifically on what the native is asking and not on all attributes of the 4th house, of which few may manifest in his Life, while others may not. This will depend on his age, question, circumstances and other factors which would require commonsense on the part of the astrologer. For instance a native of age 75 running Bhukthi of planet signifying 5th house and predicting him a Love affair or a child at his age would sound insane. Is it not ? But any query related to speculation would sound senseful and of meaning. An astrologer must never talk more than necessary or try to predict more than what is asked. Be specific. There's no reason for us to check whether one would have a Loan or not in his Life, or whether one would have a Love affair in his Life or whether he would be having a vehicle or not, UNLESS the Question comes to the astrologer. But to answer your query, Loans would be re-paid in the Bhukti of the planet signifying the 12th house.And if the houses of gains are strong, and the planets are mostly in the stars of the planets owning these houses, theres no reason for the native to take Loan. Is there ? Especially if these planets are running their major or minor periods in the natives Life in his youthful or old age. If the native does not have the 6th house running at all in his Life, and just the 2nd and the 11th house running, then its a sure shot Horoscope of the native not taking Loans ever in his Life. But such Horoscopes are hard to see. Even the Big Corporates are doing bnusiness with Public money received as Share application money, or Mutual Fund Units. Such type of studies are irrelevant actually and a waste of time, because one sees a mixed Horoscope normally, and you must, as said before stick to the specific Queries put at a specific point of time, and focus on studying the predictions for the same, and not bother about Whole Life predictions which is actually just not possible humanly and a futile attempt, only meant as a luxurious utility of time, for those whose stomachs are full, and have all the time in the world. . The seniors may correct me if I am wrong. regards, Bhaskar. , "ajoy s. chomaal" <ajoy_matchless wrote:>> Dear members,>  >  6th house signifies increase in bank position and also signifies repayment of debt. Does it imply that every individual running dasa, bhukti of 6 would be repaying loan ?  iam sure NO. My question, how does one know that he would never take a loan in life or he would never be in debts.  Also is it possible to confirm that in a particular period an individual doesnt have any loan on his head and would be debt free. If yes , which houses should the lords of such period signify. >  > request seniors to educate on this. A serious and most talked about issue in these current times of recession. > > regards,> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Dear Mr. Bhaskar,This is absolutely exceptional and lucid revert. Thanks so much for the details.regards,--- On Sat, 3/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: debt significance Date: Saturday, 3 January, 2009, 10:59 PM Dear Ajoy, //  6th house signifies increase in bank position and also signifies repayment of debt. Does it imply that every individual running dasa, bhukti of 6 would be repaying loan ?  iam sure NO// What You are talking is contradictory. How can the 6th House show increase in Bank position and at same time show decrease, by repayment of debts, as you say because when you repay , would not your Bank balance become less ? This is not possible. You will have to get your facts right here. The former part of your statement is right, as the 6th shows increase in Bank position by Payments received for goods sold, or services given, by Brokerage or commissions received, by salaries and remuneration' s received, AND by Taking Loan from Bank, but NOT Repayment of Loans. That is shown by the 12th house. The 6th shows inflow of money while the 12th shows outflows. So no question of any implication of anyone repaying a Loan. // My question, how does one know that he would never take a loan in life or he would never be in debts.  Also is it possible to confirm that in a particular period an individual doesn't have any loan on his head and would be debt free. If yes , which houses should the lords of such period signify.// First of all, understand that there are millions and trillions of activities a man does during his Life time, which are all represented and divided and denoted and signified by the 12 houses in the Birth Chart. (Remember this very well that millions and trillions of a humans activities are divided into just 12 categories). Now the 4th House may show, Mother, Vehicle, Primary Education, Domestic environment, Chest region, Water , Construction, Wealth of Co-borns, Foreign journeys of child, and thousands and thousands of such other matters. Now just because you see in a chart that this native is running the Bhukti of the Planet showing the 4th House, then are you going to predict all the thousands of results for this native ? No. That would depend specifically on what the native is asking and not on all attributes of the 4th house, of which few may manifest in his Life, while others may not. This will depend on his age, question, circumstances and other factors which would require commonsense on the part of the astrologer. For instance a native of age 75 running Bhukthi of planet signifying 5th house and predicting him a Love affair or a child at his age would sound insane. Is it not ? But any query related to speculation would sound senseful and of meaning. An astrologer must never talk more than necessary or try to predict more than what is asked. Be specific. There's no reason for us to check whether one would have a Loan or not in his Life, or whether one would have a Love affair in his Life or whether he would be having a vehicle or not, UNLESS the Question comes to the astrologer. But to answer your query, Loans would be re-paid in the Bhukti of the planet signifying the 12th house.And if the houses of gains are strong, and the planets are mostly in the stars of the planets owning these houses, theres no reason for the native to take Loan. Is there ? Especially if these planets are running their major or minor periods in the natives Life in his youthful or old age. If the native does not have the 6th house running at all in his Life, and just the 2nd and the 11th house running, then its a sure shot Horoscope of the native not taking Loans ever in his Life. But such Horoscopes are hard to see. Even the Big Corporates are doing bnusiness with Public money received as Share application money, or Mutual Fund Units. Such type of studies are irrelevant actually and a waste of time, because one sees a mixed Horoscope normally, and you must, as said before stick to the specific Queries put at a specific point of time, and focus on studying the predictions for the same, and not bother about Whole Life predictions which is actually just not possible humanly and a futile attempt, only meant as a luxurious utility of time, for those whose stomachs are full, and have all the time in the world. . The seniors may correct me if I am wrong. regards, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, "ajoy s. chomaal" <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:>> Dear members,>  >  6th house signifies increase in bank position and also signifies repayment of debt. Does it imply that every individual running dasa, bhukti of 6 would be repaying loan ?  iam sure NO. My question, how does one know that he would never take a loan in life or he would never be in debts.  Also is it possible to confirm that in a particular period an individual doesnt have any loan on his head and would be debt free. If yes , which houses should the lords of such period signify. >  > request seniors to educate on this. A serious and most talked about issue in these current times of recession. > > regards,> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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