Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Respected Senior Members Mr.Punitji, Sunil Sir, Mr.Lajmiji & others I agree with Mr.Vishwanathanji's comment that 7th denotes sexual acts. But according to me this is only when the sexual act is "legitimate" / "official". I also agree with Mr.L.Raoji that 8th indicates sexual acts. But according to me this is only when the act is out of lust and not love. In a love marriage it must be agreed that it all started with lust in mind, level of intensity could be different. And if 5, 8 are also associated with 12 then the act has been performed before marriage for sure. So to answer your query i as a practice implement replacing the house 2 by 8 and the house 11 by 5 strictly in case of love marriage or live in relationships. regards,AJOY--- On Sun, 30/11/08, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Re: Marriage - Plz comments. Date: Sunday, 30 November, 2008, 12:33 PM Dear Subhash ji,You have quoted in your email that "These 5th and 8th houses may replace the 2, 7, 11 houses in some cases." From the practical application perspective this is incomplete because it doesn't tell us when are those 'some case'. How to pick those cases? Similarly Tw ji, you have mentioned "Very weak but yet those connected with a bhava are those planets conjoined with or aspected by the significators found out already." This also looks incomplete from the practical application perspective without knowing in what cases we should use 'very weak' significators. It seems that weather we use pure KP or 4-step, we need to find out those conditions when we can apply these special cases. For timing the event I think that we should use transit, especially of slow moving planet, as an independent tool in KP rather than just supporting tool to Vimshottari Dasa. For example, following were the slow moving planet on the time of marriage celebration of Atuj ji -Planet: Rasi-Nakshatra- SubJupiter: Jupiter-Venus- KetuSaturn: Sun-Venus-KetuAll the planets through which Jupiter and Saturn were transiting (Jupiter, Vneus, Sun, Ketu) were strong significators of the houses of marriage. In my opinion, we should give more importance to the transit of planets, especially slow moving planets, in timings events rather than using transit as just a supporting tool for Vimshottari Dasa in KP. This is just my opinion and of course, we need to apply it in more cases before we can conclude anything. It would be good to check the transit of slow moving planet on the day of marriage for other three charts given by Tw ji i.e. Sujata Das, Tony Blair, George W Bush. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:57 AM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Shivendra and Friends, 1. Let my join to congratulate for happy event and thank you for feedback. 2. Marriage is promised and Dasa lord Ju is capable of marriage as posted in Msg#16782 & 16791. 3. Sometimes marriage takes place in the Bhukti not signifying 2,7,11, for instance, 1) your son Atul's marriage in Ju-Sa-Ve DBA (Sa aspected by Ve of 11th significator) 2) Sujata Das's first marriage in Ju-Me-Sa (Me not aspected by 2,7,11 significators) 3) Tony Blair's marriage in Ra-Mo-Sa (Mo not aspected by 2,7,11 significators) 4) George W Bush Ju-Me-Ju (Me is conj. with Ve of 11th significator & Sa of 7th significator. 4. Miss Sujata Das's TOB is retified by Dr. Kar the Great and Shri K. Ganapathy (eldest son & coached by Guruji KSK as shown in the picture of the original edition of KP Reader III and the TOBs of Mr Tony Blair and Mr Geore W Bush are AA- rated and worldwide applied. 5. The KP grade E significators are very weak and used at the last resort.: a) PAGE 149 OF K.P. READER V (1983 EDITION) (5) Very weak but yet those connected with a bhava are those planets conjoined with or aspected by the significators found out already. b) PAGE 42 OF KP YEAR BOOK, 1995 (How to Judge a Nativity by K.S.K)PAGE 6 OF HOW TO JUDGE A NATIVITY BY K. HARIHARAN, 1995Very weak but yet those connected with a bhava are those planets conjoined with or aspected by significators found out already. 6. Although Ju-Me gave the marriage to Miss Sujata Das as Dasa lord Ju is significator of 2,7,11, Me Dasa without signifying 2,7,11 cannot give marriage. No Bhukti can offer a result if Dasa lord does not permit. If the Dasa lord is not a significator of the result which Bhukti lord is to give , Dasa lord, the final authority will not give the ultimate result. Planets from a cabinet. The Prime minister is the Dasanadha. The Bhuktinadhas are Cabinet Ministers. The Antharanadhas are Deputy Ministers. (KP Reader IV page 195) Regards, tw P.S. The charts are attached. http://www.mykundal i.com/ ATUL --Person Details Sex Male Date of birth 12 : 4 : 1979 Time of Birth 4 : 50 : 0 Day of birth Thursday Ishtkaal 057-06-28 Place of Birth Delhi Country India Time Zone 5.5 Latitude 28 : 39 : N Longitude 77 : 14 : E Local Time 00.21.03 War Time Correction 00.00.00 LMT at Birth 04.28.55 GMT at Birth 2.0.1.59 Tithi Purnima Hindu Week Day Wednesday Paksha Shukla Yoga Vyaghata Karan Visit Sunrise 05.59.24 Sunset 18.44.41 Day Duration 12.45.17 Balance Of Dasha MOON 1 Y 6 M 19 D Lagna Pisces Lagna Lord Jup Rasi Virgo Rasi Lord Mer Nakshatra-Pada Hasta-4 Nakshatra Lord Mon Julian Day 2443976 SunSign(Indian) Pisces SunSign(Western) Aries Ayanamsa 023-28-38 Ayanamsa Name KP Ayan Obliquity 023-26-31 Sideral Time 17.47.12 KP Planets & Cusps Balance Of Dasha : MOON 1 Y 6 M 19 D Planets PLANET DEGREE RAS-NAK-SUB- SS Ret/Dir SUN 358-00-06 JUP-MER-SAT- SAT Direct MOON 171-15-51 MER-MON-VEN- RAH Direct MARS 340-21-08 JUP-SAT-SUN- SUN Direct MERCURY 333-14-02 JUP-JUP-RAH- MAR Direct JUPITER 095-56-08 MON-SAT-MER- VEN Direct VENUS 323-04-45 SAT-JUP-SAT- MON Direct SATURN 134-16-08 SUN-VEN-VEN- RAH Retrograde RAHU 142-23-55 SUN-VEN-SAT- MER Retrograde KETU 322-23-55 SAT-JUP-SAT- MER Retrograde URANUS 206-39-12 VEN-JUP-VEN- VEN Retrograde NEPTUNE 236-53-24 MAR-MER-JUP- KET Retrograde PLUTO 174-16-15 MER-MAR-RAH- RAH Retrograde Bhav CUSP DEGREE RAS-NAK-SUB- SS 1 331-57-29 JUP-JUP-RAH- SAT 2 010-20-10 MAR-KET-SAT- VEN 3 039-21-54 VEN-SUN-VEN- SAT 4 063-35-19 MER-MAR-VEN- RAH 5 087-24-40 MER-JUP-VEN- RAH 6 115-10-07 MON-MER-RAH- MER 7 151-57-29 MER-SUN-JUP- MER 8 190-20-10 VEN-RAH-JUP- RAH 9 219-21-54 MAR-SAT-VEN- JUP 10 243-35-19 JUP-KET-SUN- VEN 11 267-24-40 JUP-SUN-MON- MON 12 295-10-07 SAT-MAR-RAH- MER Cusp Chart Planet Signification Planets Houses SUN 1 4 5 7 MOON 6 7 MARS 1 2 6 9 12 MERCURY 1 4 5 7 10 11 JUPITER 1 5 6 10 11 12 VENUS 1 3 5 8 10 11 12 SATURN 3 6 8 12 RAHU 3 6 8 12 KETU 1 5 10 11 12 Significators of Houses Houses Planets I SUN MARS MERCURY JUPITER VENUS KETU II MARS III VENUS SATURN RAHU IV SUN MERCURY V SUN MERCURY JUPITER VENUS KETU VI MOON MARS JUPITER SATURN RAHU VII SUN MOON MERCURY VIII VENUS SATURN RAHU IX MARS X MERCURY JUPITER VENUS KETU XI MERCURY JUPITER VENUS KETU XII MARS JUPITER VENUS SATURN RAHU KETU http://www.mykundal i.com/ MS. SUJATA DAS--Person Details Sex Female Date of birth 5 : 5 : 1955 Time of Birth 21 : 37 : 0 Day of birth Thursday Ishtkaal 039-57-48 Place of Birth Delhi Country India Time Zone 5.5 Latitude 28 : 36 : N Longitude 77 : 10 : E Local Time 00.21.19 War Time Correction 00.00.00 LMT at Birth 21.15.40 GMT at Birth 1.00.00 Tithi Chaturdasi Hindu Week Day Thursday Paksha Shukla Yoga Siddhi Karan Vanij Sunrise 05.37.52 Sunset 18.58.13 Day Duration 13.20.20 Avkahada Chakra Paya (RasiBased) Loha Varna Kshatriya Yoni Mahis Gana Deva Vasya Manab Nadi End Balance Of Dasha RAHU 17 Y 0 M 13 D Lagna Scorpion Lagna Lord Mar Rasi Libra Rasi Lord Ven Nakshatra-Pada Swati-1 Nakshatra Lord Rah Julian Day 2435233 SunSign(Indian) Aries SunSign(Western) Taurus Ayanamsa 023-08-35 Ayanamsa Name KP Ayan Obliquity 023-26-42 Sideral Time 12.06.38 KP Planets & Cusps Balance Of Dasha : RAHU 17 Y 0 M 13 D Planets PLANET DEGREE RAS-NAK-SUB- SS Ret/Dir SUN 021-14-47 MAR-VEN-JUP- VEN Direct MOON 187-22-46 VEN-RAH-RAH- SAT Direct MARS 053-25-17 VEN-MAR-MAR- RAH Direct MERCURY 035-11-48 VEN-SUN-MER- MER Direct JUPITER 090-23-14 MON-JUP-MON- VEN Direct VENUS 350-07-09 JUP-MER-VEN- MAR Direct SATURN 205-00-12 VEN-JUP-MER- RAH Retrograde RAHU 245-40-18 JUP-KET-RAH- RAH Retrograde KETU 065-40-18 MER-MAR-MON- MAR Retrograde URANUS 090-55-57 MON-JUP-MAR- SAT Direct NEPTUNE 183-15-31 VEN-MAR-VEN- MON Retrograde PLUTO 121-07-28 SUN-KET-VEN- VEN Retrograde Bhav CUSP DEGREE RAS-NAK-SUB- SS 1 236-04-30 MAR-MER-RAH- MAR 2 268-24-27 JUP-SUN-MON- SUN 3 303-59-05 SAT-MAR-VEN- JUP 4 338-39-58 JUP-SAT-VEN- MON 5 008-26-14 MAR-KET-JUP- VEN 6 033-25-55 VEN-SUN-SAT- MER 7 056-04-30 VEN-MAR-RAH- MAR 8 088-24-27 MER-JUP-VEN- MER 9 123-59-05 SUN-KET-MON- RAH 10 158-39-58 MER-SUN-VEN- RAH 11 188-26-14 VEN-RAH-RAH- MON 12 213-25-55 MAR-SAT-SAT- SAT Cusp Chart Planet Signification Planets Houses SUN 4 5 6 7 9 11 MOON 1 10 MARS 1 5 6 12 MERCURY 5 6 8 9 10 JUPITER 2 4 8 VENUS 4 6 7 8 10 11 SATURN 2 3 4 8 11 RAHU 1 7 KETU 1 5 6 7 12 Significators of Houses Houses Planets I MOON MARS RAHU KETU II JUPITER SATURN III SATURN IV SUN JUPITER VENUS SATURN V SUN MARS MERCURY KETU VI SUN MARS MERCURY VENUS KETU VII SUN VENUS RAHU KETU VIII MERCURY JUPITER VENUS SATURN IX SUN MERCURY X MOON MERCURY VENUS XI SUN VENUS SATURN XII MARS KETU ASTRAURA HOROSCOPE Name : Mr. Tony Blair Place : Edinburgh, Scotland Date : 6-May-1953 Wednesday Time : 6-10-0 Longitude : 3-13-0 West Latitude : 55-57-0 North Zone : 0 New KP Ayanamsa : Custom 23° 6' 56" Time System: Universal Time Sid.Time : 19° 52' 12" Latitude : Geographic Latitude Cusp System: Placidus Sun Rise/Set Upper Ray : 4 - 19| 8 - 02 Sun Rise/Set Lower Ray : 4 - 26| 7 - 55 Lagna : Vrisha Rohini 1 Birth Rasi (Moon Sign) : Makara Birth Star (Nakshatra) : Shravana 3 Lunar Half (Paksha) : Krishna Paksha (Declining Phase) Lunar Day (Thithi) : Apara Ashthami 23 Yoga : Suklam Karana : Balavam Dasa at DOB / DOQ : Moon Dasa Balance : 3 Y:8 M:21 D Bhukti at DOB / DOQ : Mercury Bhukti Balance : 0 Y:11 M:23 D Current Date : 11/30/2008 Current Dasa running : Sat-Sun-Ven : Saturn Dasa upto: 22-Jan-2017 : Sun Bhukti upto: 26-Dec-2008 : Venus Antara upto: 25-Dec-2008 Positions of Planets and Cusps: ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === Planet Longitude Star Pada K.P. Pointer House ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === Sun 22° Ar 15' 34" Bharani 3 Mar-Ven-Sat- Mer 12 Moon 18° Cp 22' 43" Shravana 3 Sat-Moo-Mer- Ven 10 Mars 10° Ta 20' 25" Rohini 1 Ven-Moo-Moo- Jup 12 Mercury 3° Ar 16' 24" Aswini 1 Mar-Ket-Sun- Jup 12 Jupiter 6° Ta 5' 10" Krittika 3 Ven-Sun-Mer- Mar 12 Venus 21° Pi 54' 29" Revati 2 Jup-Mer-Sun- Sat 12 Saturn (Retro.) 29° Vi 13' 57" Chitra 2 Mer-Mar-Sat- Moo 6 Rahu 14° Cp 19' 43" Shravana 2 Sat-Moo-Jup- Sat 10 Ketu 14° Cn 19' 43" Pushya 4 Moo-Sat-Rah- Ven 4 ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === Cusp Longitude Star K.P. Pointer ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= I 11° Ta 43' 16" Rohini Ven-Moo-Mar- Ven II 1° Ge 51' 12" Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Mer- Sat III 17° Ge 3' 12" Ardhra Mer-Rah-Ven- Mer IV 2° Cn 56' 08" Punarvasu Moo-Jup-Rah- Ven V 24° Cn 21' 03" Aslesha Moo-Mer-Rah- Rah VI 3° Vi 10' 18" Utra Phalguni Mer-Sun-Sat- Sat VII 11° Sc 43' 16" Anuradha Mar-Sat-Moo- Mer VIII 1° Sa 51' 12" Moola Jup-Ket-Ven- Rah IX 17° Sa 3' 12" Poorvashada Jup-Ven-Moo- Ket X 2° Cp 56' 08" Utrashada Sat-Sun-Jup- Rah XI 24° Cp 21' 03" Dhanishta Sat-Mar-Rah- Rah XII 3° Pi 10' 18" Poorva Bhadra Jup-Jup-Rah- Moo Fortuna - Day 7° Aq 50' 25" Sathabhishak Sat-Rah-Rah- Ket ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= Planets' Signification Tables Sun General : 12 Star Level : 1 12 Sub Level : 6 10 11 Sub-Sub Level : 2 3 6 12 In the Planet's Star : Jup In the Planet's Sub : Mer Ven In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Moon General : 4 5 10 Star Level : 4 5 10 Sub Level : 2 3 6 12 Sub-Sub Level : 1 12 In the Planet's Star : Moo Mar Rah In the Planet's Sub : Mar In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Sat Mars General : 7 12 Star Level : 4 5 10 Sub Level : 4 5 10 Sub-Sub Level : 8 9 12 12 In the Planet's Star : Sat In the Planet's Sub : In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Jup Mercury General : 2 3 6 12 Star Level : 4 Sub Level : 12 Sub-Sub Level : 8 9 12 12 In the Planet's Star : Ven In the Planet's Sub : Moo Jup In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Sun Jupiter General : 8 9 12 12 Star Level : 12 Sub Level : 2 3 6 12 Sub-Sub Level : 7 12 In the Planet's Star : In the Planet's Sub : Rah In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Mar Mer Venus General : 1 12 Star Level : 2 3 6 12 Sub Level : 12 Sub-Sub Level : 6 10 11 In the Planet's Star : Sun In the Planet's Sub : In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Moo Ket Saturn (Retro.) General : 6 10 11 Star Level : 7 12 Sub Level : 6 10 11 Sub-Sub Level : 4 5 10 In the Planet's Star : Ket In the Planet's Sub : Sun Sat In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Ven Rah Rahu General : 10 Star Level : 4 5 10 Sub Level : 8 9 12 12 Sub-Sub Level : 6 10 11 In the Planet's Star : In the Planet's Sub : Ket In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Ketu General : 4 Star Level : 6 10 11 Sub Level : 10 Sub-Sub Level : 1 12 In the Planet's Star : Mer In the Planet's Sub : In the Planet's Sub-Sub : ASTRAURA HOROSCOPE Name : Mr. George W Bush Place : New Haven, USA Date : 6-July-1946 Saturday Time : 7-26-0 Longitude : 72-56-0 West Latitude : 41-18-0 North Zone : -5 Ayanamsa : Custom 23° 1' 13" Time System: Universal Time Sid.Time : 1° 29' 38" Latitude : Geographic Latitude Cusp System: Placidus Sun Rise/Set Upper Ray : 4 - 24|- 16 - 32 Sun Rise/Set Lower Ray : 4 - 30|- 16 - 37 Lagna : Karkata Pushya 4 Birth Rasi (Moon Sign) : Kanya Birth Star (Nakshatra) : Chitra 1 Lunar Half (Paksha) : Sukla Paksha (Growing Phase) Lunar Day (Thithi) : Purva Ashthami 8 Yoga : Shivam Karana : Bavam Dasa at DOB / DOQ : Mars Dasa Balance : 6 Y:9 M:27 D Bhukti at DOB / DOQ : Mars Bhukti Balance : 0 Y:2 M:22 D Current Date : 11/30/2008 Current Dasa running : Mer-Ket-Ven : Mercury Dasa upto: 30-Apr-2023 : Ketu Bhukti upto: 23-Sep-2009 : Venus Antara upto: 15-Dec-2008 Positions of Planets and Cusps: ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === Planet Longitude Star Pada K.P. Pointer House ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === Sun 20° Ge 45' 30" Punarvasu 1 Mer-Jup-Jup- Mer 12 Moon 23° Vi 41' 08" Chitra 1 Mer-Mar-Mar- Sat 3 Mars 16° Le 17' 12" Poorva Phalguni 1 Sun-Ven-Moo- Moo 2 Mercury 16° Cn 48' 22" Aslesha 1 Moo-Mer-Mer- Mer 1 Jupiter 25° Vi 7' 25" Chitra 1 Mer-Mar-Rah- Mer 3 Venus 28° Cn 28' 26" Aslesha 4 Moo-Mer-Sat- Mer 1 Saturn 3° Cn 29' 04" Pushya 1 Moo-Sat-Sat- Sat 12 Rahu 26° Ta 34' 58" Mrigasiras 1 Ven-Mar-Jup- Sat 11 Ketu 26° Sc 34' 58" Jyeshta 3 Mar-Mer-Jup- Sat 5 ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === Cusp Longitude Star K.P. Pointer ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= I 14° Cn 4' 57" Pushya Moo-Sat-Rah- Ket II 4° Le 33' 58" Makha Sun-Ket-Moo- Ven III 29° Le 38' 26" Utra Phalguni Sun-Sun-Rah- Jup IV 1° Li 10' 47" Chitra Ven-Mar-Mer- Rah V 7° Sc 52' 04" Anuradha Mar-Sat-Ket- Jup VI 13° Sa 36' 11" Poorvashada Jup-Ven-Ven- Ven VII 14° Cp 4' 57" Shravana Sat-Moo-Jup- Jup VIII 4° Aq 33' 58" Dhanishta Sat-Mar-Ven- Mer IX 29° Aq 38' 26" Poorva Bhadra Sat-Jup-Moo- Rah X 1° Ar 10' 47" Aswini Mar-Ket-Ven- Sun XI 7° Ta 52' 04" Krittika Ven-Sun-Ven- Ven XII 13° Ge 36' 11" Ardhra Mer-Rah-Mer- Mar Fortuna - Day 17° Li 0' 34" Swati Ven-Rah-Ven- Mer ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= Planets' Signification Tables Sun General : 2 3 12 Star Level : 3 6 Sub Level : 3 6 Sub-Sub Level : 1 12 In the Planet's Star : In the Planet's Sub : In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Moon General : 1 3 Star Level : 2 5 10 Sub Level : 2 5 10 Sub-Sub Level : 7 8 9 12 In the Planet's Star : In the Planet's Sub : Mar In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Mar Mars General : 2 5 10 Star Level : 1 4 11 Sub Level : 1 3 Sub-Sub Level : 1 3 In the Planet's Star : Moo Jup Rah In the Planet's Sub : Moo In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Mercury General : 1 12 Star Level : 1 12 Sub Level : 1 12 Sub-Sub Level : 1 12 In the Planet's Star : Mer Ven Ket In the Planet's Sub : Mer In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Sun Mer Jup Ven Jupiter General : 3 6 Star Level : 2 5 10 Sub Level : 11 Sub-Sub Level : 1 12 In the Planet's Star : Sun In the Planet's Sub : Sun Rah Ket In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Venus General : 1 4 11 Star Level : 1 12 Sub Level : 7 8 9 12 Sub-Sub Level : 1 12 In the Planet's Star : Mar In the Planet's Sub : In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Saturn General : 7 8 9 12 Star Level : 7 8 9 12 Sub Level : 7 8 9 12 Sub-Sub Level : 7 8 9 12 In the Planet's Star : Sat In the Planet's Sub : Ven Sat In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Moo Sat Rah Ket Rahu General : 11 Star Level : 2 5 10 Sub Level : 3 6 Sub-Sub Level : 7 8 9 12 In the Planet's Star : In the Planet's Sub : Jup In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Ketu General : 5 Star Level : 1 12 Sub Level : 3 6 Sub-Sub Level : 7 8 9 12 In the Planet's Star : In the Planet's Sub : In the Planet's Sub-Sub : @gro ups.com, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ ...> wrote:>> Obviously Sir> Still I hope to receive comments where I was wrong?> With warm regards> yours> Shivendra> > >  > > --- On Sat, 29/11/08, swami swami wrote:> > swami swami > Re: Marriage - Plz comments.> @gro ups.com> Saturday, 29 November, 2008, 12:05 AM> > > > > > > >  >         || Om Gurave Namah || > Hare Ram Krishna> Dear shivendra,> thanks for feed back.> I must congratulate also  for happy event . > So application of KP lead us no where.> some of the conclusions were> 1. fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this  period will come so late when marriage is not probable> 2. Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth  June 09.(Guru--Shani- -Moon--Mars)> 3..The marriage will be celebrated on 1st March 2009 positively { outside KP application}> 4.  marriage is found promised but realisation very difiicult. marriage is found not promised . > > This case study is a eye opener!> hope experts will not justify the events ,instead teach where application of rules failed.> with regards.> > > > >  OM TATSAT> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> Swami_RCSrivastava Astrologer > Teaching & Consultations> http:\\www.kaalvast u..com > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has> created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --> > > - > shivendra56 > @gro ups.com > Friday, November 28, 2008 7:58 PM> Marriage - Plz comments.> > > > > Respected All,> It gives me immense pleasure to inform you all that the marriage of my elder son has been celebrated. the events which have been taken place are here as under: -> 1. Ring ceromoney on 13-04-2008 at 2-00 PM at Shashtri Nagar, Delhi. (Nearby Shashtri Nagar Metro Station) > 2. Vagdan Sanskar (SAGAI & LAGAN) on 19-11-2008 at 1-50 PM onwards nearby my residance i.e. Jagat Puri, Mandoli Road, delhi 110093.> 3. Marriage on 21/22-11-2008 at 1-50 AM at Shashtri Nagar, Delhi.> Plz comments with reference to messages 16874, 16879, 16882, 16918, 16919, 16927 & 16937.> With warm regards> yours> Shivendra>  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Dear Ajoy, Before mixing up with KP, pl kindly first read -- 1) KP Reader IV page 110 " Why 2,7 & 11 are reffered for marrige? " 2) Ibid page 115 " Do you know why 2,7 and 11 are to be judged ? " 3) Ibid page 146 " If the sub lord of the second cusp is connected with 7th house, second marriage; if connected with 11th house, one will keep a keep, as 7th house significator shows legal bondage whereas the 11th indicates attachemnt and friendship. " 4) KP Reader V (1983) page 168 " If one wants to marry significators of 2,7 and 11; if he wants a divorce, then the significators of the houses 6,12,10 and 8 will finalise the divorce. " Regards, tw , " ajoy s. chomaal " <ajoy_matchless wrote: > > > > Respected Senior Members >  > Mr.Punitji, Sunil Sir, Mr.Lajmiji & others >  >  > I agree with Mr.Vishwanathanji's comment that 7th denotes sexual acts. But according to me this is only when the sexual act is " legitimate " / " official " . I also agree with Mr.L.Raoji that 8th indicates sexual acts. But according to me this is only when the act is out of lust and not love. In a love marriage it must be agreed that it all started with lust in mind, level of intensity could be different. And if 5, 8 are also associated with 12 then the act has been performed before marriage for sure. >  > So to answer your query i as a practice implement replacing the house 2 by 8 and the house 11 by 5 strictly in case of love marriage or live in relationships.  > > > regards, > AJOY > > --- On Sun, 30/11/08, Punit Pandey punitp wrote: > > Punit Pandey punitp > Re: Re: Marriage - Plz comments. > > Sunday, 30 November, 2008, 12:33 PM Dear Subhash ji, > > You have quoted in your email that " These 5th and 8th houses may replace the 2, 7, 11 houses in some cases. " From the practical application perspective this is incomplete because it doesn't tell us when are those 'some case'. How to pick those cases? > > > Similarly Tw ji, you have mentioned " Very weak but yet those connected with a bhava are those planets conjoined with or aspected by the significators found out already. " This also looks incomplete from the practical application perspective without knowing in what cases we should use 'very weak' significators. > > It seems that weather we use pure KP or 4-step, we need to find out those conditions when we can apply these special cases. > > For timing the event I think that we should use transit, especially of slow moving planet, as an independent tool in KP rather than just supporting tool to Vimshottari Dasa. For example, following were the slow moving planet on the time of marriage celebration of Atuj ji - > > Planet: Rasi-Nakshatra- Sub > Jupiter: Jupiter-Venus- Ketu > Saturn: Sun-Venus-Ketu > > All the planets through which Jupiter and Saturn were transiting (Jupiter, Vneus, Sun, Ketu) were strong significators > of the houses of marriage. In my opinion, we should give more importance to the transit of planets, especially slow moving planets, in timings events rather than using transit as just a supporting tool for Vimshottari Dasa in KP. This is just my opinion and of course, we need to apply it in more cases before we can conclude anything. It would be good to check the transit of slow moving planet on the day of marriage for other three charts given by Tw ji i.e. Sujata Das, Tony Blair, George W Bush. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:57 AM, tw853 tw853 > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shivendra and Friends, > 1. Let my join to congratulate for happy event and thank you for feedback. > 2. Marriage is promised and Dasa lord Ju is capable of marriage as posted in Msg#16782 & 16791. > 3. Sometimes marriage takes place in the Bhukti not signifying 2,7,11, for instance, > 1)     your son Atul's marriage in Ju-Sa-Ve DBA (Sa aspected by Ve of 11th significator) > 2)     Sujata Das's first marriage in Ju-Me-Sa (Me not aspected by 2,7,11 significators) > 3)     Tony Blair's marriage in Ra-Mo-Sa (Mo not aspected by 2,7,11 significators) > 4)     George W Bush Ju-Me-Ju (Me is conj. with Ve of 11th significator & Sa of 7th significator. > 4. Miss Sujata Das's TOB is retified by Dr. Kar the Great and Shri K. Ganapathy (eldest son & coached by Guruji KSK as shown in the picture of the original edition of KP Reader III and the TOBs of Mr Tony Blair and Mr Geore W Bush are AA- rated and worldwide applied. > 5. The KP grade E significators are very weak and used at the last resort.: > a) PAGE 149 OF K.P. READER V (1983 EDITION) (5) Very weak but yet those connected with a bhava are those planets conjoined with or aspected by the significators found out already. > b) PAGE 42 OF KP YEAR BOOK, 1995 (How to Judge a Nativity by K.S.K) > PAGE 6 OF HOW TO JUDGE A NATIVITY BY K. HARIHARAN, 1995 > Very weak but yet those connected with a bhava are those planets conjoined with or aspected by significators found out already. > 6. Although Ju-Me gave the marriage to Miss Sujata Das as Dasa lord Ju is significator of 2,7,11, Me Dasa without signifying 2,7,11 cannot give marriage. > No Bhukti can offer a result if Dasa lord does not permit. If the Dasa lord is not a significator of the result which Bhukti lord is to give , Dasa lord, the final authority will not give the ultimate result. Planets from a cabinet. The Prime minister is the Dasanadha. The Bhuktinadhas are Cabinet Ministers. The Antharanadhas are Deputy Ministers. (KP Reader IV page 195) > Regards, > tw > P.S. The charts are attached. >  http://www.mykundal i.com/ >  > > > > > > ATUL --Person Details > > > > Sex  > Male > > Date of birth  > 12 : 4 : 1979 > > Time of Birth  > 4 : 50 : 0 > > Day of birth  > Thursday > > Ishtkaal  > 057-06-28 > > Place of Birth  > Delhi > > Country  > India > > Time Zone  > 5.5 > > Latitude  > 28 : 39 : N > > Longitude  > 77 : 14 : E > > Local Time  > 00.21.03 > > War Time Correction  > 00.00.00 > > LMT at Birth  > 04.28.55 > > GMT at Birth  > 2.0.1.59 > > Tithi  > Purnima > > Hindu Week Day  > Wednesday > > Paksha  > Shukla > > Yoga  > Vyaghata > > Karan  > Visit > > Sunrise  > 05.59.24 > > Sunset  > 18.44.41 > > Day Duration  > 12.45.17 > > > Balance Of Dasha  > MOON 1 Y 6 M 19 D  > > Lagna  > Pisces > > Lagna Lord  > Jup > > Rasi  > Virgo > > Rasi Lord  > Mer > > Nakshatra-Pada  > Hasta-4 > > Nakshatra Lord  > Mon > > Julian Day  > 2443976 > > SunSign(Indian)  > Pisces > > SunSign(Western)  > Aries > > Ayanamsa  > 023-28-38 > > Ayanamsa Name  > KP Ayan > > Obliquity  > 023-26-31 > > Sideral Time  > 17.47.12 > KP Planets & Cusps > > > > > Balance Of Dasha : > MOON 1 Y 6 M 19 D > > > > > Planets > > > > > PLANET > DEGREE > RAS-NAK-SUB- SS > Ret/Dir > > SUN > 358-00-06 > JUP-MER-SAT- SAT > Direct > > MOON > 171-15-51 > MER-MON-VEN- RAH > Direct > > MARS > 340-21-08 > JUP-SAT-SUN- SUN > Direct > > MERCURY > 333-14-02 > JUP-JUP-RAH- MAR > Direct > > JUPITER > 095-56-08 > MON-SAT-MER- VEN > Direct > > VENUS > 323-04-45 > SAT-JUP-SAT- MON > Direct > > SATURN > 134-16-08 > SUN-VEN-VEN- RAH > Retrograde > > RAHU > 142-23-55 > SUN-VEN-SAT- MER > Retrograde > > KETU > 322-23-55 > SAT-JUP-SAT- MER > Retrograde > > URANUS > 206-39-12 > VEN-JUP-VEN- VEN > Retrograde > > NEPTUNE > 236-53-24 > MAR-MER-JUP- KET > Retrograde > > PLUTO > 174-16-15 > MER-MAR-RAH- RAH > Retrograde > > > > > > Bhav > > > > > CUSP > DEGREE > RAS-NAK-SUB- SS > > 1 > 331-57-29 > JUP-JUP-RAH- SAT > > 2 > 010-20-10 > MAR-KET-SAT- VEN > > 3 > 039-21-54 > VEN-SUN-VEN- SAT > > 4 > 063-35-19 > MER-MAR-VEN- RAH > > 5 > 087-24-40 > MER-JUP-VEN- RAH > > 6 > 115-10-07 > MON-MER-RAH- MER > > 7 > 151-57-29 > MER-SUN-JUP- MER > > 8 > 190-20-10 > VEN-RAH-JUP- RAH > > 9 > 219-21-54 > MAR-SAT-VEN- JUP > > 10 > 243-35-19 > JUP-KET-SUN- VEN > > 11 > 267-24-40 > JUP-SUN-MON- MON > > 12 > 295-10-07 > SAT-MAR-RAH- MER > > > > > > Cusp Chart > > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > > >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  >  > > > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > > >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >   >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >   >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > >  > >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > > >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  > > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  > >  > >  > >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > > > > > > Planet Signification > > > > Planets > Houses > > SUN > 1 > 4 > 5 > 7 > > MOON > 6 > 7 > > MARS > 1 > 2 > 6 > 9 > 12 > > MERCURY > 1 > 4 > 5 > 7 > 10 > 11 > > JUPITER > 1 > 5 > 6 > 10 > 11 > 12 > > VENUS > 1 > 3 > 5 > 8 > 10 > 11 > 12 > > SATURN > 3 > 6 > 8 > 12 > > RAHU > 3 > 6 > 8 > 12 > > KETU > 1 > 5 > 10 > 11 > 12 > > > >  > > > Significators of Houses > > > > Houses > Planets > > I > SUN > MARS > MERCURY > JUPITER > VENUS > KETU > > II > MARS > > III > VENUS > SATURN > RAHU > > IV > SUN > MERCURY > > V > SUN > MERCURY > JUPITER > VENUS > KETU > > VI > MOON > MARS > JUPITER > SATURN > RAHU > > VII > SUN > MOON > MERCURY > > VIII > VENUS > SATURN > RAHU > > IX > MARS > > X > MERCURY > JUPITER > VENUS > KETU > > XI > MERCURY > JUPITER > VENUS > KETU > > XII > MARS > JUPITER > VENUS > SATURN > RAHU > KETU > http://www.mykundal i.com/ >  > > > > > > MS. SUJATA DAS--Person Details > > > > > Sex  > Female > > Date of birth  > 5 : 5 : 1955 > > Time of Birth  > 21 : 37 : 0 > > Day of birth  > Thursday > > Ishtkaal  > 039-57-48 > > Place of Birth  > Delhi > > Country  > India > > Time Zone  > 5.5 > > Latitude  > 28 : 36 : N > > Longitude  > 77 : 10 : E > > Local Time  > 00.21.19 > > War Time Correction  > 00.00.00 > > LMT at Birth  > 21.15.40 > > GMT at Birth  > 1.00.00 > > Tithi  > Chaturdasi > > Hindu Week Day  > Thursday > > Paksha  > Shukla > > Yoga  > Siddhi > > Karan  > Vanij > > Sunrise  > 05.37.52 > > Sunset  > 18.58.13 > > Day Duration  > 13.20.20 Avkahada Chakra > > > > > Paya (RasiBased)  > Loha > > Varna  > Kshatriya > > Yoni  > Mahis > > Gana  > Deva > > Vasya  > Manab > > Nadi  > End > >  >  > > Balance Of Dasha  > RAHU 17 Y 0 M 13 D  > > Lagna  > Scorpion > > Lagna Lord  > Mar > > Rasi  > Libra > > Rasi Lord  > Ven > > Nakshatra-Pada  > Swati-1 > > Nakshatra Lord  > Rah > > Julian Day  > 2435233 > > SunSign(Indian)  > Aries > > SunSign(Western)  > Taurus > > Ayanamsa  > 023-08-35 > > Ayanamsa Name  > KP Ayan > > Obliquity  > 023-26-42 > > Sideral Time  > 12.06.38 >  > > > > > > KP Planets & Cusps > > > > > Balance Of Dasha : > RAHU 17 Y 0 M 13 D > > > > > Planets > > > > > PLANET > DEGREE > RAS-NAK-SUB- SS > Ret/Dir > > SUN > 021-14-47 > MAR-VEN-JUP- VEN > Direct > > MOON > 187-22-46 > VEN-RAH-RAH- SAT > Direct > > MARS > 053-25-17 > VEN-MAR-MAR- RAH > Direct > > MERCURY > 035-11-48 > VEN-SUN-MER- MER > Direct > > JUPITER > 090-23-14 > MON-JUP-MON- VEN > Direct > > VENUS > 350-07-09 > JUP-MER-VEN- MAR > Direct > > SATURN > 205-00-12 > VEN-JUP-MER- RAH > Retrograde > > RAHU > 245-40-18 > JUP-KET-RAH- RAH > Retrograde > > KETU > 065-40-18 > MER-MAR-MON- MAR > Retrograde > > URANUS > 090-55-57 > MON-JUP-MAR- SAT > Direct > > NEPTUNE > 183-15-31 > VEN-MAR-VEN- MON > Retrograde > > PLUTO > 121-07-28 > SUN-KET-VEN- VEN > Retrograde > > > > > > Bhav > > > > > CUSP > DEGREE > RAS-NAK-SUB- SS > > 1 > 236-04-30 > MAR-MER-RAH- MAR > > 2 > 268-24-27 > JUP-SUN-MON- SUN > > 3 > 303-59-05 > SAT-MAR-VEN- JUP > > 4 > 338-39-58 > JUP-SAT-VEN- MON > > 5 > 008-26-14 > MAR-KET-JUP- VEN > > 6 > 033-25-55 > VEN-SUN-SAT- MER > > 7 > 056-04-30 > VEN-MAR-RAH- MAR > > 8 > 088-24-27 > MER-JUP-VEN- MER > > 9 > 123-59-05 > SUN-KET-MON- RAH > > 10 > 158-39-58 > MER-SUN-VEN- RAH > > 11 > 188-26-14 > VEN-RAH-RAH- MON > > 12 > 213-25-55 > MAR-SAT-SAT- SAT > > > > > > Cusp Chart > > >  >  >  >  > > >  >  >  > >  >  > > > >  >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > > >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > > >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  > >  > > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >   >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >   >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  > >  >  > >  >  >  > > >  >  >  >  > >  >  > >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  > >  > > >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > >  >  >  >  > > > > > > Planet Signification > > > > > Planets > Houses > > SUN > 4 > 5 > 6 > 7 > 9 > 11 > > MOON > 1 > 10 > > MARS > 1 > 5 > 6 > 12 > > MERCURY > 5 > 6 > 8 > 9 > 10 > > JUPITER > 2 > 4 > 8 > > VENUS > 4 > 6 > 7 > 8 > 10 > 11 > > SATURN > 2 > 3 > 4 > 8 > 11 > > RAHU > 1 > 7 > > KETU > 1 > 5 > 6 > 7 > 12 > > > > >  > > > Significators of Houses > > > > > Houses > Planets > > I > MOON > MARS > RAHU > KETU > > II > JUPITER > SATURN > > III > SATURN > > IV > SUN > JUPITER > VENUS > SATURN > > V > SUN > MARS > MERCURY > KETU > > VI > SUN > MARS > MERCURY > VENUS > KETU > > VII > SUN > VENUS > RAHU > KETU > > VIII > MERCURY > JUPITER > VENUS > SATURN > > IX > SUN > MERCURY > > X > MOON > MERCURY > VENUS > > XI > SUN > VENUS > SATURN > > XII > MARS > KETU >  >  > ASTRAURA HOROSCOPE > Name : Mr. Tony Blair > Place : Edinburgh, Scotland > Date : 6-May-1953 Wednesday > Time : 6-10-0 > Longitude : 3-13-0 West > Latitude : 55-57-0 North > Zone : 0 > New KP Ayanamsa : Custom 23° 6' 56 " > Time System: Universal Time > Sid.Time : 19° 52' 12 " > Latitude : Geographic Latitude > Cusp System: Placidus > Sun Rise/Set Upper Ray : 4 - 19| 8 - 02 > Sun Rise/Set Lower Ray : 4 - 26| 7 - 55 > Lagna : Vrisha Rohini 1 > Birth Rasi (Moon Sign) : Makara > Birth Star (Nakshatra) : Shravana 3 > Lunar Half (Paksha) : Krishna Paksha (Declining Phase) > Lunar Day (Thithi) : Apara Ashthami 23 > Yoga : Suklam > Karana : Balavam > Dasa at DOB / DOQ : Moon > Dasa Balance : 3 Y:8 M:21 D > Bhukti at DOB / DOQ : Mercury > Bhukti Balance : 0 Y:11 M:23 D > Current Date : 11/30/2008 > Current Dasa running : Sat-Sun-Ven > : Saturn Dasa upto: 22-Jan-2017 > : Sun Bhukti upto: 26-Dec-2008 > : Venus Antara upto: 25-Dec-2008 > Positions of Planets and Cusps: > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === > Planet Longitude Star Pada K.P. Pointer House > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === > Sun 22° Ar 15' 34 " Bharani 3 Mar-Ven-Sat- Mer 12 > Moon 18° Cp 22' 43 " Shravana 3 Sat-Moo-Mer- Ven 10 > Mars 10° Ta 20' 25 " Rohini 1 Ven-Moo-Moo- Jup 12 > Mercury 3° Ar 16' 24 " Aswini 1 Mar-Ket-Sun- Jup 12 > Jupiter 6° Ta 5' 10 " Krittika 3 Ven-Sun-Mer- Mar 12 > Venus 21° Pi 54' 29 " Revati 2 Jup-Mer-Sun- Sat 12 > Saturn (Retro.) 29° Vi 13' 57 " Chitra 2 Mer-Mar-Sat- Moo 6 > Rahu 14° Cp 19' 43 " Shravana 2 Sat-Moo-Jup- Sat 10 > Ketu 14° Cn 19' 43 " Pushya 4 Moo-Sat-Rah- Ven 4 > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === > Cusp Longitude Star K.P. Pointer > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > I 11° Ta 43' 16 " Rohini Ven-Moo-Mar- Ven > II 1° Ge 51' 12 " Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Mer- Sat > III 17° Ge 3' 12 " Ardhra Mer-Rah-Ven- Mer > IV 2° Cn 56' 08 " Punarvasu Moo-Jup-Rah- Ven > V 24° Cn 21' 03 " Aslesha Moo-Mer-Rah- Rah > VI 3° Vi 10' 18 " Utra Phalguni Mer-Sun-Sat- Sat > VII 11° Sc 43' 16 " Anuradha Mar-Sat-Moo- Mer > VIII 1° Sa 51' 12 " Moola Jup-Ket-Ven- Rah > IX 17° Sa 3' 12 " Poorvashada Jup-Ven-Moo- Ket > X 2° Cp 56' 08 " Utrashada Sat-Sun-Jup- Rah > XI 24° Cp 21' 03 " Dhanishta Sat-Mar-Rah- Rah > XII 3° Pi 10' 18 " Poorva Bhadra Jup-Jup-Rah- Moo > Fortuna - Day 7° Aq 50' 25 " Sathabhishak Sat-Rah-Rah- Ket > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > Planets' Signification Tables > Sun > General : 12 > Star Level : 1 12 > Sub Level : 6 10 11 > Sub-Sub Level : 2 3 6 12 > In the Planet's Star : Jup > In the Planet's Sub : Mer Ven > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : > Moon > General : 4 5 10 > Star Level : 4 5 10 > Sub Level : 2 3 6 12 > Sub-Sub Level : 1 12 > In the Planet's Star : Moo Mar Rah > In the Planet's Sub : Mar > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Sat > Mars > General : 7 12 > Star Level : 4 5 10 > Sub Level : 4 5 10 > Sub-Sub Level : 8 9 12 12 > In the Planet's Star : Sat > In the Planet's Sub : > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Jup > Mercury > General : 2 3 6 12 > Star Level : 4 > Sub Level : 12 > Sub-Sub Level : 8 9 12 12 > In the Planet's Star : Ven > In the Planet's Sub : Moo Jup > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Sun > Jupiter > General : 8 9 12 12 > Star Level : 12 > Sub Level : 2 3 6 12 > Sub-Sub Level : 7 12 > In the Planet's Star : > In the Planet's Sub : Rah > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Mar Mer > Venus > General : 1 12 > Star Level : 2 3 6 12 > Sub Level : 12 > Sub-Sub Level : 6 10 11 > In the Planet's Star : Sun > In the Planet's Sub : > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Moo Ket > Saturn (Retro.) > General : 6 10 11 > Star Level : 7 12 > Sub Level : 6 10 11 > Sub-Sub Level : 4 5 10 > In the Planet's Star : Ket > In the Planet's Sub : Sun Sat > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Ven Rah > Rahu > General : 10 > Star Level : 4 5 10 > Sub Level : 8 9 12 12 > Sub-Sub Level : 6 10 11 > In the Planet's Star : > In the Planet's Sub : Ket > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : > Ketu > General : 4 > Star Level : 6 10 11 > Sub Level : 10 > Sub-Sub Level : 1 12 > In the Planet's Star : Mer > In the Planet's Sub : > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : > >  > ASTRAURA HOROSCOPE > Name : Mr. George W Bush > Place : New Haven, USA > Date : 6-July-1946 Saturday > Time : 7-26-0 > Longitude : 72-56-0 West > Latitude : 41-18-0 North > Zone : -5 > Ayanamsa : Custom 23° 1' 13 " > Time System: Universal Time > Sid.Time : 1° 29' 38 " > Latitude : Geographic Latitude > Cusp System: Placidus > Sun Rise/Set Upper Ray : 4 - 24|- 16 - 32 > Sun Rise/Set Lower Ray : 4 - 30|- 16 - 37 > Lagna : Karkata Pushya 4 > Birth Rasi (Moon Sign) : Kanya > Birth Star (Nakshatra) : Chitra 1 > Lunar Half (Paksha) : Sukla Paksha (Growing Phase) > Lunar Day (Thithi) : Purva Ashthami 8 > Yoga : Shivam > Karana : Bavam > Dasa at DOB / DOQ : Mars > Dasa Balance : 6 Y:9 M:27 D > Bhukti at DOB / DOQ : Mars > Bhukti Balance : 0 Y:2 M:22 D > Current Date : 11/30/2008 > Current Dasa running : Mer-Ket-Ven > : Mercury Dasa upto: 30-Apr-2023 > : Ketu Bhukti upto: 23-Sep-2009 > : Venus Antara upto: 15-Dec-2008 > Positions of Planets and Cusps: > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === > Planet Longitude Star Pada K.P. Pointer House > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === > Sun 20° Ge 45' 30 " Punarvasu 1 Mer-Jup-Jup- Mer 12 > Moon 23° Vi 41' 08 " Chitra 1 Mer-Mar-Mar- Sat 3 > Mars 16° Le 17' 12 " Poorva Phalguni 1 Sun-Ven-Moo- Moo 2 > Mercury 16° Cn 48' 22 " Aslesha 1 Moo-Mer-Mer- Mer 1 > Jupiter 25° Vi 7' 25 " Chitra 1 Mer-Mar-Rah- Mer 3 > Venus 28° Cn 28' 26 " Aslesha 4 Moo-Mer-Sat- Mer 1 > Saturn 3° Cn 29' 04 " Pushya 1 Moo-Sat-Sat- Sat 12 > Rahu 26° Ta 34' 58 " Mrigasiras 1 Ven-Mar-Jup- Sat 11 > Ketu 26° Sc 34' 58 " Jyeshta 3 Mar-Mer-Jup- Sat 5 > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === > Cusp Longitude Star K.P. Pointer > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > I 14° Cn 4' 57 " Pushya Moo-Sat-Rah- Ket > II 4° Le 33' 58 " Makha Sun-Ket-Moo- Ven > III 29° Le 38' 26 " Utra Phalguni Sun-Sun-Rah- Jup > IV 1° Li 10' 47 " Chitra Ven-Mar-Mer- Rah > V 7° Sc 52' 04 " Anuradha Mar-Sat-Ket- Jup > VI 13° Sa 36' 11 " Poorvashada Jup-Ven-Ven- Ven > VII 14° Cp 4' 57 " Shravana Sat-Moo-Jup- Jup > VIII 4° Aq 33' 58 " Dhanishta Sat-Mar-Ven- Mer > IX 29° Aq 38' 26 " Poorva Bhadra Sat-Jup-Moo- Rah > X 1° Ar 10' 47 " Aswini Mar-Ket-Ven- Sun > XI 7° Ta 52' 04 " Krittika Ven-Sun-Ven- Ven > XII 13° Ge 36' 11 " Ardhra Mer-Rah-Mer- Mar > Fortuna - Day 17° Li 0' 34 " Swati Ven-Rah-Ven- Mer > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > Planets' Signification Tables > Sun > General : 2 3 12 > Star Level : 3 6 > Sub Level : 3 6 > Sub-Sub Level : 1 12 > In the Planet's Star : > In the Planet's Sub : > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : > Moon > General : 1 3 > Star Level : 2 5 10 > Sub Level : 2 5 10 > Sub-Sub Level : 7 8 9 12 > In the Planet's Star : > In the Planet's Sub : Mar > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Mar > Mars > General : 2 5 10 > Star Level : 1 4 11 > Sub Level : 1 3 > Sub-Sub Level : 1 3 > In the Planet's Star : Moo Jup Rah > In the Planet's Sub : Moo > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : > Mercury > General : 1 12 > Star Level : 1 12 > Sub Level : 1 12 > Sub-Sub Level : 1 12 > In the Planet's Star : Mer Ven Ket > In the Planet's Sub : Mer > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Sun Mer Jup Ven > Jupiter > General : 3 6 > Star Level : 2 5 10 > Sub Level : 11 > Sub-Sub Level : 1 12 > In the Planet's Star : Sun > In the Planet's Sub : Sun Rah Ket > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : > Venus > General : 1 4 11 > Star Level : 1 12 > Sub Level : 7 8 9 12 > Sub-Sub Level : 1 12 > In the Planet's Star : Mar > In the Planet's Sub : > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : > Saturn > General : 7 8 9 12 > Star Level : 7 8 9 12 > Sub Level : 7 8 9 12 > Sub-Sub Level : 7 8 9 12 > In the Planet's Star : Sat > In the Planet's Sub : Ven Sat > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : Moo Sat Rah Ket > Rahu > General : 11 > Star Level : 2 5 10 > Sub Level : 3 6 > Sub-Sub Level : 7 8 9 12 > In the Planet's Star : > In the Planet's Sub : Jup > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : > Ketu > General : 5 > Star Level : 1 12 > Sub Level : 3 6 > Sub-Sub Level : 7 8 9 12 > In the Planet's Star : > In the Planet's Sub : > In the Planet's Sub-Sub : > > > > @gro ups.com, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ ....> wrote: > > > > Obviously Sir > > Still I hope to receive comments where I was wrong? > > With warm regards > > yours > > Shivendra > > > > > >  > > > > --- On Sat, 29/11/08, swami swami@ wrote: > > > > swami swami@ > > > Re: Marriage - Plz comments. > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, 29 November, 2008, 12:05 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > >         || Om Gurave Namah || > > > Hare Ram Krishna > > Dear shivendra, > > thanks for feed back. > > I must congratulate also  for happy event . > > > So application of KP lead us no where. > > some of the conclusions were > > 1. fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this  period will come so late when marriage is not probable > > 2. Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth  June 09.(Guru--Shani- -Moon--Mars) > > 3.The marriage will be celebrated on 1st March 2009 positively { outside KP application} > > 4.  marriage is found promised but realisation very difiicult. marriage is found not promised . > > > > > This case study is a eye opener! > > hope experts will not justify the events ,instead teach where application of rules failed. > > with regards. > > > > > > > > > >  OM TATSAT > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > > Swami_RCSrivastava Astrologer > > > Teaching & Consultations > > http:\\www.kaalvast u.com > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has > > created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- > > > > > > - > > shivendra56 > > @gro ups.com > > Friday, November 28, 2008 7:58 PM > > Marriage - Plz comments. > > > > > > > > > > Respected All, > > It gives me immense pleasure to inform you all that the marriage of my elder son has been celebrated. the events which have been taken place are here as under: > - > > 1. Ring ceromoney on 13-04-2008 at 2-00 PM at Shashtri Nagar, Delhi. (Nearby Shashtri Nagar Metro Station) > > > 2. Vagdan Sanskar (SAGAI & LAGAN) on 19-11-2008 at 1-50 PM onwards nearby my residance i.e. Jagat Puri, Mandoli Road, delhi 110093. > > 3. Marriage on 21/22-11-2008 at 1-50 AM at Shashtri Nagar, Delhi. > > Plz comments with reference to messages 16874, 16879, 16882, 16918, 16919, 16927 & 16937. > > With warm regards > > yours > > Shivendra > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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