Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Dear experienced members, can u please comment on Guru Chandala Yogam t.r.rao--- On Fri, 28/11/08, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless wrote: ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchlessRe: Re: Gays/Lesbians Date: Friday, 28 November, 2008, 9:20 PM Dear Rashmi patel & Sunaparantha My experience says that these uncommon features in an individual will definately be seen when VENUS is connected with RAHU and MARS both. Mars, the HOT & Rahu the HEADLESS. With such combination the individual will surely have a mind for these acts. And over and above this if Mercury is spoilt by KETU, MARS or SAT and is connected with 6th/12th house he would go to the extend of physical act and/or marry the partner.Mr. Sunaparantha, in one of your earlier mails you have presented 5 examples. You may corelate my findings and check and please highlight if i need to re work. regards,AJOY--- On Thu, 27/11/08, rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ > wrote: rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ > Re: Gays/Lesbians@gro ups.comThursday, 27 November, 2008, 8:16 PM respected gurujano,Here is detail as followdob=may 12, 1957tob= 04;25 AM place = aden yemen which is 12N45 , 45E12 GMT= 3HRS EAST thankspatel@gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Rasmi,> Pl. give me the Name of Yr Birth Place> Sunaparanth> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ ...>> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, November 26, 2008 1:22:29 AM> Re: Gays/Lesbians> > > Respected Ghosh-ji & other gurujanos,> First of all here I am not agreeing or disagreeing any gurujanos this is just more to study ok> I had been noticing this venus/sat conj would give that kind of relations topics but what I wanted to know is, is there any that might be good cultured grahos like jupiter or strong sun or any other that could over ruled that bad relation,> just because look in this kundali details are as follow> may 12 1957, 04;25 am 12n45, 45e12 gmt=3east> had aries lagna & had in aries=sun,mercury, ketu. tauras=venus. gemini=mars. leo=jupiter. libra=moon, rahu, scorpio=saturn so here venus/saturn cross eachother > but that relation is not there at all,infact person is happily married with 2 sons,> very religious had built a ganesh temple,> earlier there was topic discusing ketu/sun would give you bad habbit meaning eating tobacco,smoking, liquor,eating meat all this but this person is strickly vegitranian, & no other bed habbits at all so even that time i thought it over ruled that conj ketu/sun & again this venus/saturn conj does not match or fit in this kundali> so I think there are other graho they change some of this solid conj & give positive effects> so I think nothing is granted & solid,so please tell me what we can reserch on this ok> thanks> patel> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:19:35 AM> RE: Gays/Lesbians> > > Take the case of Ms Aiswarya Bacchan also.(Nov1,1973,5: 00AM,Mangalore.> > Her Ven is aspected by sat & conjoined with Rahu.Ven is in star of Ketu signifying Sat.> > > Suprakash> > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer> Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:44 AM> @gro ups.com> RE: Gays/Lesbians> > Albert Einstein was straight and not a gay. In fact, Einstein was a sexual maniac during his younger days. He even had multiple partners. He used to have affairs with the sister of his own wife. This I read in "Einstein in his own words".> > Regards> S..Gopalakrishnan> > --- On Tue, 11/25/08, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> wrote:> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> RE: Gays/Lesbians> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 11:50 AM> Surprisingly Albert Einstain had the similar combination :Ven & Sat in same house. Ven in sub of Rahu representing Sat. Any body knows any thing in this line about Einstain that he was a Gay?> > Suprakash> > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey> Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:54 PM> @gro ups.com> Re: Gays/Lesbians> > Dear Friends,> > Instead of discussing philosophical aspects of this topic, please concentrate on the astrological discussion... As I mentioned during our share market discussion, any research can be used with good or bad intention but that doesn't mean that we should stop the research. I agree that there are more important topics, but in the forum we discuss whatever topics raised by members as they come. If somebody thinks that there are more important topics, s/he should start discussion on that by making new posts on those topics. > > I appreciate the participation of Sunaparantha ji who, instead of talking about the philosophical aspects, focused on astrology and research. By analysing five charts and finding the common elements, he has taken us one step forward in this study. I think that is the way we can best utilize our energies and hence I request everybody to focus on astrology. > > Let us focus on astrology.> > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:> Sexual aberration of gay/lesbians.> .> As there is no any formula given by Shri KSK in his KP Paddhati for this, we have to analyze several charts with known evidences. But it is too, not an easy task as there may be several planetary contacts to guess. > Hence I tried to find out any rule given by any other Author in traditional System, by going through many Vedic Astro Literatures.. .> The only one rule, I found is from Bhawakuthuhala, written by Sri Jeewanatha from Bharatha, as per the sayings of Rshi Vyasa> In that text, it is called " Dhoosha Karma Yoga" and "Subhaga Yoga"> > If Sat aspect or conjoined in any manner to Ven or vise-versa, then the native sees a women as a man and man as a women because of the unlimited desire of the sexuality. ( Anangairaa lolaakalinathara roopabhiranisam)> > When we turn this rule in to the KP system, we can see the behavior of these two planets..> Herewith I have analyzed five Charts appeared in the forum and see the formula, which I am trying make up.> > Analyzing> > Chart # 01 - Msg. # 20946 of TW Ji (as per given Chart)> System : Krishnamurthy Ayanamsa: 22° 43' 02" (NKPA 22:43:56)> Name : Rock Hudson> Place : Winnetka, USA> Date : 17-11-1925 Tuesday> Time : 2-15-0> Asc. Vir 08.45.38> Ven Sat > Sg.L Ju Ve > St.L Ve Ju > Sb.L Ra Me > Ss.L Ju Ra > > Sat's3rd aspect to Ven.> Sat.is in the House of Ven. Libra.> Sub of Ven, is Ra, in the constellation of Sat.> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --> Chart # 02 - Msg. # 20946 of TW Ji (as per given Chart)> System : Krishnamurthy Ayanamsa: 23° 22' 10" (NKPA 23:22:32)> Name : Ricky Martin> Place : Hato Rey, Puerto Rico > Date : 24-12-1971 Friday> Time : 17-0-0> Asc. Taurus 27.18.25> Ven Sat > Sg.L Sat Ve > St.L Su Su > Sb.L Ve Ke > Ss.L Ra Ju > > Venis in the House of Sat and Sat is in the house of Ven.> Sat's10th aspect to Ven.> Sub Lord of the sign Lord of Sat is Ven, who is in her own star.> SSL of Ven is Ra, who is in the Sign of Sat> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------> > Chart # 03 - Msg. # 20946 of TW Ji (as per given Chart)> System : Krishnamurthy Ayanamsa: 22° 52' 18" (NKPA 22:52:38)> Name : Valerie Solanas (Courtesy of www.astrotheme. fr/en)> Place : Ventnor, NJ, USA> Date : 9-4-1936 Thursday> Time : 5-37-0> Asc: Pi: 27...34.32> Ven Sat > Sg.L Ju Sat > St.L Sat Ju > Sb.L Sat Me > Ss.L Ju Ve > > Venand Sat, both are in the 12th Cusp. Not conjoined but very close.> Sat's SSL is Ven> Both St.L and Sub L ofVen, is Sat> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---> > Chart # 04 - Msg. # 20937 (as per FREEHOR of the Forum)> > Mr. Raam Kumar> 24-08-1982> Time: 18:13 (6:13 PM)> Place: Rajapalayam (Rajapalaiyam) , Tamil Nadu> > Asc.Aqu. 02.53.31 - KPNA 23-31-29> Ven Sat > Sg.L Mo Me > St.L Me Ma > Sb.L Ke Ra > Ss.L Mo Ve > > Satis in the Sub of Ra, who is in his own star and in the sub of Ve.> Ve is the SSL ofSat.> St.L ofVe is Me, who is in the SS ofSat.> > Chart # 05> > 5. Msg. # 20933 of Punit Ji((as per FREEHOR of the Forum)> Mr.xx> 17.06.1980> Time: 9.45 pm> Place : Delhi> > Asc. Cap 10.15.51 - KPNA 23-29-37> > Ven Sat > Sg.L Ve Su > St.L Ma Su > Sb.L Sat Su > Ss.L Ma Ve > > Ven's Sub is Sat.> Sat'sSSL is Ve.> Sat is at the 4th aspect of Ve.> Ve is at the 10th aspect of Sat.> > > Conclusion> Here it is very clearly indicating the behavior of VE and SA for Gay/Lesbian activities of the natives, in the above charts under consideration. > > Those brief analyzings shows the connection of VE and SA each other in a natal chart in any manner, results the native to be a Gay/Lesbian.> > Finally, I wish to take this opportunity to make up this rule as New KP Formula for said topic.> And forward this humble effort to the learned Seniors of the KP Forum, for their kind and deep consideration.> And at the same time I wish to see any mistake done by me while analyzing these charts and it is my sincere hope to make me correct if any, by the Seniors.> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. 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Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008  || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rao, In KP except punarpho dosha NO yoga is considered. You may post in vedic groups.By the way It has connection to tendency of manushya hatya. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCSrivastava AstrologerTeaching & Consultationshttp:\\www.kaalvastu.com -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Rao Tammiraju Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:16 AM Re: Re: Guruchandala yogam Dear experienced members, can u please comment on Guru Chandala Yogam t.r.rao--- On Fri, 28/11/08, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Re: Gays/Lesbians Date: Friday, 28 November, 2008, 9:20 PM Dear Rashmi patel & Sunaparantha My experience says that these uncommon features in an individual will definately be seen when VENUS is connected with RAHU and MARS both. Mars, the HOT & Rahu the HEADLESS. With such combination the individual will surely have a mind for these acts. And over and above this if Mercury is spoilt by KETU, MARS or SAT and is connected with 6th/12th house he would go to the extend of physical act and/or marry the partner.Mr. Sunaparantha, in one of your earlier mails you have presented 5 examples. You may corelate my findings and check and please highlight if i need to re work. regards,AJOY--- On Thu, 27/11/08, rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ > wrote: rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ > Re: Gays/Lesbians@gro ups.comThursday, 27 November, 2008, 8:16 PM respected gurujano,Here is detail as followdob=may 12, 1957tob= 04;25 AM place = aden yemen which is 12N45 , 45E12 GMT= 3HRS EAST thankspatel@gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Rasmi,> Pl. give me the Name of Yr Birth Place> Sunaparanth> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ ...>> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, November 26, 2008 1:22:29 AM> Re: Gays/Lesbians> > > Respected Ghosh-ji & other gurujanos,> First of all here I am not agreeing or disagreeing any gurujanos this is just more to study ok> I had been noticing this venus/sat conj would give that kind of relations topics but what I wanted to know is, is there any that might be good cultured grahos like jupiter or strong sun or any other that could over ruled that bad relation,> just because look in this kundali details are as follow> may 12 1957, 04;25 am 12n45, 45e12 gmt=3east> had aries lagna & had in aries=sun,mercury, ketu. tauras=venus. gemini=mars. leo=jupiter. libra=moon, rahu, scorpio=saturn so here venus/saturn cross eachother > but that relation is not there at all,infact person is happily married with 2 sons,> very religious had built a ganesh temple,> earlier there was topic discusing ketu/sun would give you bad habbit meaning eating tobacco,smoking, liquor,eating meat all this but this person is strickly vegitranian, & no other bed habbits at all so even that time i thought it over ruled that conj ketu/sun & again this venus/saturn conj does not match or fit in this kundali> so I think there are other graho they change some of this solid conj & give positive effects> so I think nothing is granted & solid,so please tell me what we can reserch on this ok> thanks> patel> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:19:35 AM> RE: Gays/Lesbians> > > Take the case of Ms Aiswarya Bacchan also.(Nov1,1973,5: 00AM,Mangalore.> > Her Ven is aspected by sat & conjoined with Rahu.Ven is in star of Ketu signifying Sat.> > > Suprakash> > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer> Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:44 AM> @gro ups.com> RE: Gays/Lesbians> > Albert Einstein was straight and not a gay. In fact, Einstein was a sexual maniac during his younger days. He even had multiple partners. He used to have affairs with the sister of his own wife. This I read in "Einstein in his own words".> > Regards> S..Gopalakrishnan> > --- On Tue, 11/25/08, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> wrote:> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> RE: Gays/Lesbians> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 11:50 AM> Surprisingly Albert Einstain had the similar combination :Ven & Sat in same house. Ven in sub of Rahu representing Sat. Any body knows any thing in this line about Einstain that he was a Gay?> > Suprakash> > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey> Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:54 PM> @gro ups.com> Re: Gays/Lesbians> > Dear Friends,> > Instead of discussing philosophical aspects of this topic, please concentrate on the astrological discussion... As I mentioned during our share market discussion, any research can be used with good or bad intention but that doesn't mean that we should stop the research. I agree that there are more important topics, but in the forum we discuss whatever topics raised by members as they come. If somebody thinks that there are more important topics, s/he should start discussion on that by making new posts on those topics. > > I appreciate the participation of Sunaparantha ji who, instead of talking about the philosophical aspects, focused on astrology and research. By analysing five charts and finding the common elements, he has taken us one step forward in this study. I think that is the way we can best utilize our energies and hence I request everybody to focus on astrology. > > Let us focus on astrology.> > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:> Sexual aberration of gay/lesbians.> .> As there is no any formula given by Shri KSK in his KP Paddhati for this, we have to analyze several charts with known evidences. But it is too, not an easy task as there may be several planetary contacts to guess. > Hence I tried to find out any rule given by any other Author in traditional System, by going through many Vedic Astro Literatures.. .> The only one rule, I found is from Bhawakuthuhala, written by Sri Jeewanatha from Bharatha, as per the sayings of Rshi Vyasa> In that text, it is called " Dhoosha Karma Yoga" and "Subhaga Yoga"> > If Sat aspect or conjoined in any manner to Ven or vise-versa, then the native sees a women as a man and man as a women because of the unlimited desire of the sexuality. ( Anangairaa lolaakalinathara roopabhiranisam)> > When we turn this rule in to the KP system, we can see the behavior of these two planets..> Herewith I have analyzed five Charts appeared in the forum and see the formula, which I am trying make up.> > Analyzing> > Chart # 01 - Msg. # 20946 of TW Ji (as per given Chart)> System : Krishnamurthy Ayanamsa: 22° 43' 02" (NKPA 22:43:56)> Name : Rock Hudson> Place : Winnetka, USA> Date : 17-11-1925 Tuesday> Time : 2-15-0> Asc. Vir 08.45.38> Ven Sat > Sg.L Ju Ve > St.L Ve Ju > Sb.L Ra Me > Ss.L Ju Ra > > Sat's3rd aspect to Ven.> Sat.is in the House of Ven. Libra.> Sub of Ven, is Ra, in the constellation of Sat.> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --> Chart # 02 - Msg. # 20946 of TW Ji (as per given Chart)> System : Krishnamurthy Ayanamsa: 23° 22' 10" (NKPA 23:22:32)> Name : Ricky Martin> Place : Hato Rey, Puerto Rico > Date : 24-12-1971 Friday> Time : 17-0-0> Asc. Taurus 27.18.25> Ven Sat > Sg.L Sat Ve > St.L Su Su > Sb.L Ve Ke > Ss.L Ra Ju > > Venis in the House of Sat and Sat is in the house of Ven.> Sat's10th aspect to Ven.> Sub Lord of the sign Lord of Sat is Ven, who is in her own star.> SSL of Ven is Ra, who is in the Sign of Sat> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------> > Chart # 03 - Msg. # 20946 of TW Ji (as per given Chart)> System : Krishnamurthy Ayanamsa: 22° 52' 18" (NKPA 22:52:38)> Name : Valerie Solanas (Courtesy of www.astrotheme. fr/en)> Place : Ventnor, NJ, USA> Date : 9-4-1936 Thursday> Time : 5-37-0> Asc: Pi: 27...34.32> Ven Sat > Sg.L Ju Sat > St.L Sat Ju > Sb.L Sat Me > Ss.L Ju Ve > > Venand Sat, both are in the 12th Cusp. Not conjoined but very close.> Sat's SSL is Ven> Both St.L and Sub L ofVen, is Sat> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---> > Chart # 04 - Msg. # 20937 (as per FREEHOR of the Forum)> > Mr. Raam Kumar> 24-08-1982> Time: 18:13 (6:13 PM)> Place: Rajapalayam (Rajapalaiyam) , Tamil Nadu> > Asc.Aqu. 02.53.31 - KPNA 23-31-29> Ven Sat > Sg.L Mo Me > St.L Me Ma > Sb.L Ke Ra > Ss.L Mo Ve > > Satis in the Sub of Ra, who is in his own star and in the sub of Ve.> Ve is the SSL ofSat.> St.L ofVe is Me, who is in the SS ofSat.> > Chart # 05> > 5. Msg. # 20933 of Punit Ji((as per FREEHOR of the Forum)> Mr.xx> 17.06.1980> Time: 9.45 pm> Place : Delhi> > Asc. Cap 10.15.51 - KPNA 23-29-37> > Ven Sat > Sg.L Ve Su > St.L Ma Su > Sb.L Sat Su > Ss.L Ma Ve > > Ven's Sub is Sat.> Sat'sSSL is Ve.> Sat is at the 4th aspect of Ve.> Ve is at the 10th aspect of Sat.> > > Conclusion> Here it is very clearly indicating the behavior of VE and SA for Gay/Lesbian activities of the natives, in the above charts under consideration. > > Those brief analyzings shows the connection of VE and SA each other in a natal chart in any manner, results the native to be a Gay/Lesbian.> > Finally, I wish to take this opportunity to make up this rule as New KP Formula for said topic.> And forward this humble effort to the learned Seniors of the KP Forum, for their kind and deep consideration.> And at the same time I wish to see any mistake done by me while analyzing these charts and it is my sincere hope to make me correct if any, by the Seniors.> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. 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