Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna No dear Ram, Yashoda Mehta said ,one will have striking sex desire. He will be passionate and interested in sex. This is rough translation as i remember.I have all the three books in Gujrati written by him.No he did not mention bhaga chambaga. It was Dr B.V.Raman who described bhag chumban yoga in his three hundred important yoga. There are many yoga for sexual perversion in vedic text.Here list is about KP Rules. with best wishes. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCSrivastava AstrologerTeaching & Consultationshttp:\\www.kaalvastu.com -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - raam.kumar Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:01 PM Re: Gays/Lesbians Sorry for posting again, dont know whether my birth details got posted... 24-08-1982time: 18:13 (6:13 pm)place: Rajapalayam (Rajapalaiyam)One of the astrologer told me, before i disclose them am gay, by looking at venus in 10th from moon, which leads to "different/debilating sex drive". Such jathaka is called "bhaga chambaga" as per some Gujarati author Yasoda Mehta. Also he said very true about me, about the role n my gay sex, by using Rahu centric theory. Please analyse and help me, as i am confused with my sexuality and no idea about my future life.Ram , "hattangadi_suresh" <hattangadi_suresh wrote:>> Does anybody have horoscopes of persons who have declared themselves> gay/lesbians?Any study carried out to find astrological(KP) reasons> for their sexual aberration?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Dear Mohan Kumar, The topic is definitely relevant in today's times and worthwhile as astrologers are expected to know such tendencies in boys/girls whose parents want them to marry.Knowledge of such tendencies will be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Dear Bhaskar, In todays' world...their are many self-proclaimed gays,in Mumbai and other big towns,ask Ashok J.Row Kavi who runs an Association for gays/lesbians with a fair number of members,and a Magazine devoted to Championing their cause for recognition and equal status...In fact,there are atleast,easily,double this number, of "silent/quiet gays" who lead a very private life...in every big towns...and surely,as this a natural phenomenon(being born a gay,that is), there are an equal number of gays in the villages and small towns,though they are very 'silent'... Also,"keeping"/"harbouring"/"sheltering" gays was and remains in the domain of the rich and the powerful...infact it was a "measure" of one's 'manliness,wealth and social status' since time immemorial...to be flaunted proudly (ofcourse,in selected social circles,of men & women friends respectively)...also in the Punjab it is said that the women folk(among the rich and the elite,not necessarily in the big towns alone) boast about the number of "aashiks", each one has...male and female... ! Am also told that this is also a common refrain in "ladies kitty parties",in New Delhi and North India...So much for women's modesty...! ! The world has changed Bhaskar...very much... Your objective,a very conservative one,by today's standards,is a little too old-fashioned and belongs to the Victorian age... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Thursday, 20 November, 2008 10:49:47 AM Re: Gays/Lesbians Research wise, the above topic may be okay for those interested. But applicationwise I do not find the utility for same. In legal cases, the declarataion of a astrologer is not going to matter or given weight to. And in normal Life, try telling some normal looking man after studying his chart that " You seem to be a gay or homo". Then see what happens. Try also telling this to a normal looking lady. This is like saying to a normal pregnant lady after watching her chart, that your child is going to be born with some congenial effects. Those who say this will have the doors closed over them and .......... We must stick to our roots and not give much credence to the villains of movies like character of Sharukh Khan in movie " Darr" etc. which is equivalent to such topics on astrological forums. But this is my personal view, and no one need comply to the same. Please ignore if the above is found nonsensical chatter. We must concentrate on qualifying ourselves technically to rectification of birth charts and timing events and making use of Transits in day to day Life.,for the common man. regards/Bhaskar. Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Can not agree more. This topic is not worth discussion in this Forum. We all know the intricacies of man-woman relationship, however, it does not need discussion. Similarly, People who have different inclinations have to accept the fact and there is no need to discuss in public. The need to know is that nobody is perfect in this world. Look around, everyone feels deficient in some way ie health, wealth, relationships etc. The only way is Acceptance of WILL OF GOD. May GOD bless all with peace. MSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel"Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotishThu, 20 Nov 2008 05:19:47 -0000 Re: Gays/Lesbians Research wise, the above topic may be okay for those interested. But applicationwise I do not find the utility for same. In legal cases, the declarataion of a astrologer is not going to matter or given weight to. And in normal Life, try telling some normal looking man after studying his chart that " You seem to be a gay or homo". Then see what happens. Try also telling this to a normal looking lady. This is like saying to a normal pregnant lady after watching her chart, that your child is going to be born with some congenial effects. Those who say this will have the doors closed over them and ..........We must stick to our roots and not give much credence to the villains of movies like character of Sharukh Khan in movie " Darr" etc. which is equivalent to such topics on astrological forums. But this is my personal view, and no one need comply to the same. Please ignore if the above is found nonsensical chatter.We must concentrate on qualifying ourselves technically to rectification of birth charts and timing events and making use of Transits in day to day Life.,for the common man.regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 It is shocking and appalling to see the amount of bigotry and ignorance coming out in these emails about Gays and Lesbians as being aberrations, hormonal imbalances, etc., when in fact, throughout history, it has been mostly heterosexual males who have done the most violent and heinous atrocities to women, animals, the Earth, the environment through abuse, rape, wars, witch burnings, burning of wives, pollution, genocide, species destruction, nuclear weapons, child molestation, and the like, yet astrologers have no problem reading the charts of the aberrations of these people. Astrologers are supposed to be spiritual people, here to guide the souls of all who seek thei counsel. To read the heavenly stars is to read the will of God, making astrology a holy and sacred art, and to hear astrologers speaking with such bigotry, negativity, and discrimination is vulgar and shameful to our art. What's next? Will astrologers want to revive valuing the charts of only the upper Brahmin class and not those of the lower, Sudras? Shall we revive the apartheid caste system and apply it to astrology. I hope not. Shame on you who embrace bigotry! Bad karma, indeed. --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Gays/Lesbians Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 12:19 AM Research wise, the above topic may be okay for those interested. But applicationwise I do not find the utility for same. In legal cases, the declarataion of a astrologer is not going to matter or given weight to. And in normal Life, try telling some normal looking man after studying his chart that " You seem to be a gay or homo". Then see what happens. Try also telling this to a normal looking lady. This is like saying to a normal pregnant lady after watching her chart, that your child is going to be born with some congenial effects. Those who say this will have the doors closed over them and .......... We must stick to our roots and not give much credence to the villains of movies like character of Sharukh Khan in movie " Darr" etc. which is equivalent to such topics on astrological forums. But this is my personal view, and no one need comply to the same. Please ignore if the above is found nonsensical chatter. We must concentrate on qualifying ourselves technically to rectification of birth charts and timing events and making use of Transits in day to day Life.,for the common man. regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Okay, every parent would be happy to know if the astrologer can pick out these tendencies and tell the native asking for a match for his son or daughter. But hve these astrologers developed strich rules to determine whether a boy is not wayward? does not go to prostitutes ? is addicted to alcohol ? Is a tobacco user ? Is a drug user ? Goes to rave parties ? Can todays astrologer define the combinations for each of the above ? And can he say with surety that his given combinations would come out correct 7 times on a scale of 10 ? If he as been able to do above, then and then only must he move toward finding out the sexual preferences of the chart owner. Another thing, how many astrologers can check the longevity factor ? If that cannot be checked then no use looking at the chart for 3 hours, if the boy in question is supposed to die within few years . Another thing how many can check the girls nature by looking at a chart ? Whether she is wayward or outgoing or home loving ? Whether she will have affections for her husband or have fluctuating affections . How many astrologers can say with surety and talk about the potency factor of the child bearing power in both the charts of the couple ? Let us not try to be like those pseudo secularists who put down the majority and aim to impress the minorities who are no more minorities. All the KP astrologers cannot come on a common platform for Birth rectification rules, then how will they predict for the above, when all their predictions are based on the Sub Lord only ? If they cannot stand together on the sub Lord part, then how can we say that we all have the confidence to move ahead and talk about the sex prefernces of the charts we come across ? That would be trying to tak out juice from a Rock stone. What about the 4 step followers ? They act as if the Traditional Kp system is obsolete, when every day their predictions about Share markets are going bouncer, using 4 step principles. What about the people who take the sub Lord to the 4th Level for predictions ? What about the various factions some who take 4 planets as RP's some who take 5, and some very wise who take all the 9 as RP's. Let us not try to show that we are from the Modern era. Nobody here is from the Victorian era. But we must behave like gentlemen. We must not proceed to smoke a 555 cigarette when we are wearing torn clothes. And talking about gays and lesbians is not progressing towards smoking foreing cigarettes but towards drinking deshi daaru and bidi. Sorry for being blunt. Bhaskar. , "hattangadi_suresh" <hattangadi_suresh wrote:>> Dear Mohan Kumar,> The topic is definitely relevant in today's times and worthwhile as> astrologers are expected to know such tendencies in boys/girls whose> parents want them to marry.Knowledge of such tendencies will be helpful.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Raam.kumar came forward to give his particulars,is a good move. 24-08-1982Time: 18:13 (6:13 PM)Place: Rajapalayam (Rajapalaiyam) , Tamil Nadu raam.kumar His 1st c/l venus signify 7 and in Mer star a neutral planet and ketu sub a planet for complication.Mercury signify 7,5,8 a complex kind of sexual appetite. Same ven is s/l for 7th too.7 th being place of sex they are attracted to same sex.But they can also be bisexual. Because his 5th s/l moon signify 5,9.So he can produce children.Request Seniors to comment. Regards tkp--- On Wed, 11/19/08, raam.kumar <rush2ram2 wrote: raam.kumar <rush2ram2 Re: Gays/Lesbians Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 1:35 PM Hi,Here is mine, 24-08-1982Time: 18:13 (6:13 PM)Place: Rajapalayam (Rajapalaiyam) , Tamil NaduI'm 26 years old now.Regards,Ram@gro ups.com, "hattangadi_ suresh" <hattangadi_ suresh@.. .> wrote:>> Does anybody have horoscopes of persons who have declared themselves> gay/lesbians? Any study carried out to find astrological( KP) reasons> for their sexual aberration?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Research wise, the above topic may be okay for those interested. But > applicationwise I do not find the utility for same. In legal cases, the > declarataion of a astrologer is not going to matter or given weight to. > > And in normal Life, try telling some normal looking man after studying > his chart that " You seem to be a gay or homo " . Then see what happens. > Try also telling this to a normal looking lady. This is like saying to a > normal pregnant lady after watching her chart, that your child is going > to be born with some congenial effects. Those who say this will have the > doors closed over them and .......... > > We must stick to our roots and not give much credence to the villains of > movies like character of Sharukh Khan in movie " Darr " etc. which is > equivalent to such topics on astrological forums. But this is my > personal view, and no one need comply to the same. Please ignore if the > above is found nonsensical chatter. > > We must concentrate on qualifying ourselves technically to rectification > of birth charts and timing events and making use of Transits in day to > day Life.,for the common man. > > regards/Bhaskar. > Dear Bhasker, There is no need to declare to a person that he/she is gay/lesbian.Astrologer can keep his own counsel.The operative word in my communication is 'those who have declared themselves gays/lesbians'.There is no immediate hurry to take up this topic.This topic can be topic for research for those interested in the subject.However going by the newspaper reports people are becoming bolder and are declaring themselves as gay/lesbian.It can no longer be treated as isolated cases.If horoscopes of such people are available they may be shared with members of the list so that members can find similarities in their horoscopes and share their views with others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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