Line of education and profession.- - - KP & OTHER OWN WAYS

November 17, 2008

KP

1. This is the KP rule of the grade E significator as

follows:

a) PAGE 149 OF K.P.

READER V (SEPT 1983 EDITION)

To note the order of the significators, this is the rule.

(5) Very weak but yet those

connected with a bhava are those planets

conjoined with or aspected by the significators found out already.

b) PAGE 42 OF KP YEAR

BOOK, 1995 (How to Judge a Nativity by K.S.K)

PAGE 6 OF HOW TO JUDGE A NATIVITY BY

K. HARIHARAN, 1995

Very weak but yet those connected

with a bhava are those planets conjoined with or aspected by significators

found out already.

2. This implies that ---

a) conj or aspect by the significator (planet) of grade A to

D;

b) by Hindu conj or aspect without orb;

c) no special conj or aspt rule.

3. Regarding the KP significator of order E,

a) for 4CSL Ma, thre is no required 9th house for higher education through

aspecting Sa of 10,1,2,11,1,12 significators by order;

b) for 9 CSL Me, the

required 11th house is there for higher education

through conj Ve of 2,5,2,11,4,9 significators by order;

c) for 11 CSL Ra, there is no required 9th house for higher education.

4. The KP 'A to D' significators for the required houses are

as under:

a) 4CSL Ma(7, 3-10) is in star Su(6, 7) and sub Ve+(5, 4-9).

4CSL is not a significator of required 9th house but is connected to the 9th house

by sub. It signifies undesirable 3 and is connected to undesirable 5. Ve+ with

no planet in its star is the sub lord of 1,2,8 and the signification of 8 is

undesirable.

b) 9CSL Me+(5, 5-8) is in star & sub of Sa(1, 1-12).

9CSL is not a significator of required 11th house but a significator of the

undesirable 5,8,12.

c) 11CSL Ra(8)[sgl Ve+(5, 4-9)] is in own star and sub

Ra(8)[sgl Ve+(5, 4-9)]. 11CSL is a significator of the required 9th house along

with the undesirable 8,5.

Mr. Suresh

Shahasane's Own Way

5. Without mixing up with KP, in going after the star lord Mr.

Suresh Shahasane's Own Way

may be tried as under:

"When a planet is

in its own star then it gives results indicated by its Sub and if it is in

its own star and its own Sub then it gives results indicated by its

Sub-Sub."

6. 11CSL Ra in own star and own sub is supposed to give the

results of sub Ju(10, 2-11). It is not a significator of the required 9th

house.

Mr. Sunil

Gondhalekar's Own Way, 4 Step Theory

7. Without mixing up with KP, the 4 step primary

significators (as per KPAstro. 3.0) are as follows:

a) 4CSL Ma is the primary significator of the required 9th

house;

Planet Ma: Cnj 8

Starlord of Ma is Su: 6

Sublord of Ma is Ve+: 5; 9

Starlord of Ve is Ju: 10; 11; Asp 2; Asp 4; Cnj 10

b) 9CSL Me Ma is the primary significator of the required

11th house;

Planet Me+: 5; Asp 12; Cnj 6

Starlord of Me is Sa: 1; 12

Sublord of Me is Sa:

Starlord of Sa is Ju: 10; 11;

Asp 2; Asp 4; Cnj 10

c) 11CSL Ra is the primary significator of the required 9th

house.

Planet Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)

Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)

Sublord of Ra is Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)

Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)

8. Dasa lord Ra is the primary significator of required 9th house along with the undesirable 8, 5.

Bhukti lord Ma is the primary significator of required 4,6,9,11 houses along with the undesirable 8,

5.

Cuspal Interliks

through Sub, KB

9. KB may be tried as follows: (The chart is calculated

using KP Straight Line Ayanamsa 23:47:01.)

a) 4CSL Ma is interlinked with the unfavorable 8,12 through

its star lord Su and 1,2,8 through 1,2,8. It is not interlinked with the

required 9th house.

b) 9CSL Me is in the star & sub of Sa, which is the sub

lord of 6, 12. It is not interlinked with the required 11th house.

c) 11CSL Ra is in own star & sub of Ra, which is the sub

lord of favorable 5, 11. It is not interlinked with the required 9th house.

Cuspal Interliks

through Sub Sub

10. Its own way may be tried as given under:

a) 4CSSL Ra is in own Ra star and Ra sub. Ra appears in the

cuspal positions 3,4,5,9,10,11. Ra represents Ve, which is in the cuspal

positions 1,2,8,12. It is interlinked with the required 9 and favorable 4,5,11

along with unfavorable 8,12;

b) 9CSSL Me is in the star,sub and sub sub of Sa, which is

in the cuspal positions 1,2,5,6,7,10,12. It is not interlinked with the required

11.

c) 11CSSL Su is in Sa star and Ke sub. Sa is in the cuspal

positions 1,2,5,6,7,10,12. It is not interlinked with the required 9.

Observation

11. The 4 step results give the best indication of higher

education.

, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani wrote:>> Dear Mr.Tin Winji,> From your argument, I understand that unless there is direct signfn of 9th & 11th, Mars cannot signify 9th and similarly Sun unless it has direct signfn.of 4th, 9,th & 11th, Sun cannot signify 4,9,11th. In stright analysis this is correct. I think that by conjunction rule also, the signfn.of house is decided by taking into a/c of conjunct planet's position and its signfns. . In this case, Sun by step 1 (4 step theory) becomes strong for 9th by conjunction with Merc.(within orb), a self strength planet. Mars thro Step 2 gets the signfn. of Sun's 9th signfn. Otherwise why there should be special conjunction rule. This is my actual doubt. This may kindly be clarified. Doubt No.2, it is repeatedly stressed that Sun, Mercury + and Mars do not signify 11th. My opinion is Sun thro his S/L Kethu +, who is in the sub of Rahu + strong CSL of 11th cusp; Mercury thro his star and sublord of Saturn signifies 11th by virtue of Sat. in the star of Jupiter lord of 2 and 11. Similarly Mars thro his S/L/ Venus who is also in thestar of Jupiter l/o 2 & 11, all the 3 get signifn.of 11th. So I feel that Mars gets 4th, 9th and 11th, Sun & Merc. signify 9th and 11th houses. This is as per KP Rule and also by 4 step rule. This may kindly be reexamined and I may be given authentic advice on both the doubts. Of course, I admit all the 4 planets i) Mercury, Venus, Mars, Moon get the undesirabe signfn. of 8th and Merc.+ and Venus + are getting 5th; but 5th signfn. may be little better,as it 2nd to 4th and 9th to 9th. This point also may kindly be clarified. ber=signfnAstrologically yours,> K.S.V.Ramani > - > tw853 > > Friday, November 14, 2008 8:11 PM> Re: Line of education and profession.> > > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,> > 1. As it's interesting, let me join even though I don't know what Dr. Luther Rath has discussed in his file and my opinion is given as below:> > Message#20765> Male, 24 Jul 1995, Monday; 20-14 PM IST, 13 N 06, 80 E 12, NKPA 23-42-18, Asc Aq 04-18-05, Nars Dasa bal 1Y-4M-14D (KPAstro 3.0)> 4 (lower education) CSL Ma(7, 3-10) is in the star of Su(6, 7) and in the sub of Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and becoming a strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of these cusps (as per K.M. Subramanium, Vaikari Ramamurthy, Kuppu Ganapathi, Kanak Bosmia and others). Ma does not signify 4, 11, especially 9 but connected to 4,9 by the sub. Connection to 3,5,8 is undesirable.> > 2. KP Significator Order E> (e) Those planets conjoined with or aspected by any of the significators of order A to E. (Message#7295)> According to the sublord rule by experience of K.M. Subramaniam, Vaikari Ramamurthy, Kuppu Ganapathi, Kanak Bosmia etc, Mercury with no planet in its star is a significator of 9th (out of 4,9,11 for education) by being the sublord of cusps 3,9. But Sun is not a significator of any of 4,9,11.> > 3. It is also to take 5,8 signification of Mercury by occupation and ownership along with 3.9 by being the sublord of these cusps with no planet in Mercury's star.> > 4. Overall judgement is to be done by taking all these positive and negative significators. The same thing will be with the Mars Bhukti in Rahu Dasa.> > Regards,> > tw> > > > > > , "Ramani" kadavasalramani@ wrote:> >> > Dear Dr.Luther Rath,> > > > On re-examining your analysis of the boy's chart, against Sl. V of the attachment, it is stated tthat Mars CSL of 4th is connected to 4th only & not 9th. I have a doubt on this.> > Can't we take Mars gets signification of 9th for 2 reasons: (1) Mars is in the star of Sun, who is in close conjunction > > with Merc. within the orb permissible, who is 9th CSL strong with self strength. Hence Sun will give the result of Mercury's 9th (CSL of 9th) and Mars in turn will give the result of 9th thro' his star lord Sun; (2) This signfn. of Mars is considered fruitful by the sub lord of Mars Venus, who is also self strength planet. Thus Mars can be taken fruitful for both 4th & 9th, in my opinion. Kindly confirm whether I am correct of not.> > > > Astrologically yours.> > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > Luther Rath > > > > Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:52 AM> > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > Please see the attached file. Kindly reply.> > Regards.> > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > > > > > Ramani kadavasalramani@> > > > Saturday, November 8, 2008 8:13:05 PM> > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > Dear Dr. Luther Rath,> > > > Hope you would have got the attachment of my analysis of the Boy's chart. I am anxiously awaiting your observatios. Kindly let me know your views.> > > > With regards,> > - > > Venkataramani KS > > @gro ups.com > > Cc: rathluther > > Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:18 PM> > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Tin Winji> > > > > > > > In continuation of my mail on receipt of your views on the chart of the boy, I am attaching my own observation for your kind perusal. If my view is incorrect, kindly correct me with reason.> > > > > > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > Good Morning.> > I use Jagannath Hora 7.2 advocated my many of the members. Kindly send your observations. I don't think I can be able to find out any error in your observations. Interpritations by two persons will definitely differ. That cannot be called an error. By examining the jusifications we may try to compromise and may reach to a consensus. I am prepared to agree to my errors if any. It will help us to learn and refine our presdictions.> > Thanking you.> > With regards.> > Dr. Luther Rath. > > > > > > > > > > --------> > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>> > @gro ups.com> > > > Friday, October 31, 2008 11:45:27 AM > > > > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Ratth,> > > > I am very much thankful to you for your fine analysis of the chart sent by me. I am using KP ASTRO 3.0 SW and there is slight differences in SSL & SSSL. May I know what SW you are having pl.? I am sending my own analysis for your> > kind perusal in a few days. If you find the result of my view is wrong, I request you to please point out for my incorrect > > observation and where I have erred. It is only for my learning purpose and not to challenge your views pl> > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > K.S.V.Ramani.> > observation -- Original Message ----- > > Luther Rath > > @gro ups.com > > Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:04 PM> > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > Namaskar.> > Kindly see the attached file for the prediction regarding education and profession of your son. Kindly reply.> > With due regards.> > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > > > ------> > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>> > > > @gro ups.com> > Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:07:12 PM> > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Mr.Tin Winji,> > > > I am extremely sorry that the date of birth of the boy was erroneously indicated by slip. The correct date of birth of the boy is 24th July, 1995 Monday (he has completed 13 years of age & is running 14th year studying in 9th Class in a reputed school at Chennai). Other particulars Time of Birth, Place of Birth etc. are correct.> > TOB 20-14 IST; POB Chennai Mambalam Long.13-4 (N)> > (GC)- Lat.80-17(E) Ayanamsa 23-42-26 (NKP) generated> > from KP Astro 3.0. I earnestly request you to examine> > the chart on the lines requested by me in my previous mail..> > With regards,> > Astrologically yours,> > K.S.V.Ramani> > - > > Luther Rath > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:15 AM> > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > Good Morning.> > The boy concerned was born in the yearof 1965 as mentioned. Is that correct. If it is right he has already attained age of 43 years.Where comes the question of education now. Do you want to have a retrospective analysis? Kindly clerify.> > With regards.> > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > > > ----> > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, January 2, 2002 3:31:50 PM> > Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Tin Winji,> > > > There is difference of opinion between 2 KP followers reg. line of education and profession in respect of the following chart. I request you kindly to give your valued opinion :> > (1) Boy's Education prospects; (2) whether it relates to > > professional education or otherwise; (3) If it relates to profession, what line (Medl. or Engg. etc); (4) whether he> > can get higher ediucation without any interruption.> > > > Male: DOB 24-7-1965 Monday; TOB 20-14 (8-144 PM)> > POB Lat.13(N)-6' ' Long.80-12(E) ; KP Ayanamsa 23-42-18.> > > > Thanking you,> > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> >>

November 17, 2008

Dear Mr.Tin Winji.

Many thanks for yourr taking pains to get various references

to substantiate your message. In my experience of anlying few charts, I have found that 'E' grade significator by conjunction or aspect with the primary significator has given the desired result. In the current discussion of marriage tooit is noticed that 'E' Grade significator has given the marriage. So let the Boy face his destiny. Thanking you once again.

Astrologically yours,

K.S.V.Ramani

-

tw853

Monday, November 17, 2008 8:33 AM

Re: Line of education and profession.- - - KP & OTHER OWN WAYS

KP

1. This is the KP rule of the grade E significator as follows:

a) PAGE 149 OF K.P. READER V (SEPT 1983 EDITION)To note the order of the significators, this is the rule.(5) Very weak but yet those connected with a bhava are those planetsconjoined with or aspected by the significators found out already.

b) PAGE 42 OF KP YEAR BOOK, 1995 (How to Judge a Nativity by K.S.K)PAGE 6 OF HOW TO JUDGE A NATIVITY BY K. HARIHARAN, 1995Very weak but yet those connected with a bhava are those planets conjoined with or aspected by significators found out already.

2. This implies that ---

a) conj or aspect by the significator (planet) of grade A to D;

b) by Hindu conj or aspect without orb;

c) no special conj or aspt rule.

3. Regarding the KP significator of order E,

a) for 4CSL Ma, thre is no required 9th house for higher education through aspecting Sa of 10,1,2,11,1,12 significators by order;

b) for 9 CSL Me, the required 11th house is there for higher education through conj Ve of 2,5,2,11,4,9 significators by order;

c) for 11 CSL Ra, there is no required 9th house for higher education.

4. The KP 'A to D' significators for the required houses are as under:

a) 4CSL Ma(7, 3-10) is in star Su(6, 7) and sub Ve+(5, 4-9). 4CSL is not a significator of required 9th house but is connected to the 9th house by sub. It signifies undesirable 3 and is connected to undesirable 5. Ve+ with no planet in its star is the sub lord of 1,2,8 and the signification of 8 is undesirable.

b) 9CSL Me+(5, 5-8) is in star & sub of Sa(1, 1-12). 9CSL is not a significator of required 11th house but a significator of the undesirable 5,8,12.

c) 11CSL Ra(8)[sgl Ve+(5, 4-9)] is in own star and sub Ra(8)[sgl Ve+(5, 4-9)]. 11CSL is a significator of the required 9th house along with the undesirable 8,5.

Mr. Suresh Shahasane's Own Way

5. Without mixing up with KP, in going after the star lord Mr. Suresh Shahasane's Own Way may be tried as under:

"When a planet is in its own star then it gives results indicated by its Sub and if it is inits own star and its own Sub then it gives results indicated by its Sub-Sub."

6. 11CSL Ra in own star and own sub is supposed to give the results of sub Ju(10, 2-11). It is not a significator of the required 9th house.

Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar's Own Way, 4 Step Theory

7. Without mixing up with KP, the 4 step primary significators (as per KPAstro. 3.0) are as follows:

a) 4CSL Ma is the primary significator of the required 9th house;

Planet Ma: Cnj 8

Starlord of Ma is Su: 6

Sublord of Ma is Ve+: 5; 9

Starlord of Ve is Ju: 10; 11; Asp 2; Asp 4; Cnj 10

b) 9CSL Me Ma is the primary significator of the required 11th house;

Planet Me+: 5; Asp 12; Cnj 6

Starlord of Me is Sa: 1; 12

Sublord of Me is Sa:

Starlord of Sa is Ju: 10; 11; Asp 2; Asp 4; Cnj 10

c) 11CSL Ra is the primary significator of the required 9th house.

Planet Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)

Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)

Sublord of Ra is Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)

Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)

8. Dasa lord Ra is the primary significator of required 9th house along with the undesirable 8, 5. Bhukti lord Ma is the primary significator of required 4,6,9,11 houses along with the undesirable 8, 5.

Cuspal Interliks through Sub, KB

9. KB may be tried as follows: (The chart is calculated using KP Straight Line Ayanamsa 23:47:01.)

a) 4CSL Ma is interlinked with the unfavorable 8,12 through its star lord Su and 1,2,8 through 1,2,8. It is not interlinked with the required 9th house.

b) 9CSL Me is in the star & sub of Sa, which is the sub lord of 6, 12. It is not interlinked with the required 11th house.

c) 11CSL Ra is in own star & sub of Ra, which is the sub lord of favorable 5, 11. It is not interlinked with the required 9th house.

Cuspal Interliks through Sub Sub

10. Its own way may be tried as given under:

a) 4CSSL Ra is in own Ra star and Ra sub. Ra appears in the cuspal positions 3,4,5,9,10,11. Ra represents Ve, which is in the cuspal positions 1,2,8,12. It is interlinked with the required 9 and favorable 4,5,11 along with unfavorable 8,12;

b) 9CSSL Me is in the star,sub and sub sub of Sa, which is in the cuspal positions 1,2,5,6,7,10,12. It is not interlinked with the required 11.

c) 11CSSL Su is in Sa star and Ke sub. Sa is in the cuspal positions 1,2,5,6,7,10,12. It is not interlinked with the required 9.

Observation

11. The 4 step results give the best indication of higher education.

, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani wrote:>> Dear Mr.Tin Winji,> From your argument, I understand that unless there is direct signfn of 9th & 11th, Mars cannot signify 9th and similarly Sun unless it has direct signfn.of 4th, 9,th & 11th, Sun cannot signify 4,9,11th. In stright analysis this is correct. I think that by conjunction rule also, the signfn.of house is decided by taking into a/c of conjunct planet's position and its signfns. . In this case, Sun by step 1 (4 step theory) becomes strong for 9th by conjunction with Merc.(within orb), a self strength planet. Mars thro Step 2 gets the signfn. of Sun's 9th signfn. Otherwise why there should be special conjunction rule. This is my actual doubt. This may kindly be clarified. Doubt No.2, it is repeatedly stressed that Sun, Mercury + and Mars do not signify 11th. My opinion is Sun thro his S/L Kethu +, who is in the sub of Rahu + strong CSL of 11th cusp; Mercury thro his star and sublord of Saturn signifies 11th by virtue of Sat. in the star of Jupiter lord of 2 and 11. Similarly Mars thro his S/L/ Venus who is also in thestar of Jupiter l/o 2 & 11, all the 3 get signifn.of 11th. So I feel that Mars gets 4th, 9th and 11th, Sun & Merc. signify 9th and 11th houses. This is as per KP Rule and also by 4 step rule. This may kindly be reexamined and I may be given authentic advice on both the doubts. Of course, I admit all the 4 planets i) Mercury, Venus, Mars, Moon get the undesirabe signfn. of 8th and Merc.+ and Venus + are getting 5th; but 5th signfn. may be little better,as it 2nd to 4th and 9th to 9th. This point also may kindly be clarified. ber=signfnAstrologically yours,> K.S.V.Ramani > - > tw853 > > Friday, November 14, 2008 8:11 PM> Re: Line of education and profession.> > > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,> > 1. As it's interesting, let me join even though I don't know what Dr. Luther Rath has discussed in his file and my opinion is given as below:> > Message#20765> Male, 24 Jul 1995, Monday; 20-14 PM IST, 13 N 06, 80 E 12, NKPA 23-42-18, Asc Aq 04-18-05, Nars Dasa bal 1Y-4M-14D (KPAstro 3.0)> 4 (lower education) CSL Ma(7, 3-10) is in the star of Su(6, 7) and in the sub of Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and becoming a strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of these cusps (as per K.M. Subramanium, Vaikari Ramamurthy, Kuppu Ganapathi, Kanak Bosmia and others). Ma does not signify 4, 11, especially 9 but connected to 4,9 by the sub. Connection to 3,5,8 is undesirable.> > 2. KP Significator Order E> (e) Those planets conjoined with or aspected by any of the significators of order A to E. (Message#7295)> According to the sublord rule by experience of K.M. Subramaniam, Vaikari Ramamurthy, Kuppu Ganapathi, Kanak Bosmia etc, Mercury with no planet in its star is a significator of 9th (out of 4,9,11 for education) by being the sublord of cusps 3,9. But Sun is not a significator of any of 4,9,11.> > 3. It is also to take 5,8 signification of Mercury by occupation and ownership along with 3.9 by being the sublord of these cusps with no planet in Mercury's star.> > 4. Overall judgement is to be done by taking all these positive and negative significators. The same thing will be with the Mars Bhukti in Rahu Dasa.> > Regards,> > tw> > > > > > , "Ramani" kadavasalramani@ wrote:> >> > Dear Dr.Luther Rath,> > > > On re-examining your analysis of the boy's chart, against Sl. V of the attachment, it is stated tthat Mars CSL of 4th is connected to 4th only & not 9th. I have a doubt on this.> > Can't we take Mars gets signification of 9th for 2 reasons: (1) Mars is in the star of Sun, who is in close conjunction > > with Merc. within the orb permissible, who is 9th CSL strong with self strength. Hence Sun will give the result of Mercury's 9th (CSL of 9th) and Mars in turn will give the result of 9th thro' his star lord Sun; (2) This signfn. of Mars is considered fruitful by the sub lord of Mars Venus, who is also self strength planet. Thus Mars can be taken fruitful for both 4th & 9th, in my opinion. Kindly confirm whether I am correct of not.> > > > Astrologically yours.> > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > Luther Rath > > > > Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:52 AM> > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > Please see the attached file. Kindly reply.> > Regards.> > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > > > > > Ramani kadavasalramani@> > > > Saturday, November 8, 2008 8:13:05 PM> > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > Dear Dr. Luther Rath,> > > > Hope you would have got the attachment of my analysis of the Boy's chart. I am anxiously awaiting your observatios. Kindly let me know your views.> > > > With regards,> > - > > Venkataramani KS > > @gro ups.com > > Cc: rathluther > > Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:18 PM> > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Tin Winji> > > > > > > > In continuation of my mail on receipt of your views on the chart of the boy, I am attaching my own observation for your kind perusal. If my view is incorrect, kindly correct me with reason.> > > > > > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > Good Morning.> > I use Jagannath Hora 7.2 advocated my many of the members. Kindly send your observations. I don't think I can be able to find out any error in your observations. Interpritations by two persons will definitely differ. That cannot be called an error. By examining the jusifications we may try to compromise and may reach to a consensus. I am prepared to agree to my errors if any. It will help us to learn and refine our presdictions.> > Thanking you.> > With regards.> > Dr. Luther Rath. > > > > > > > > > > --------> > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>> > @gro ups.com> > > > Friday, October 31, 2008 11:45:27 AM > > > > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Ratth,> > > > I am very much thankful to you for your fine analysis of the chart sent by me. I am using KP ASTRO 3.0 SW and there is slight differences in SSL & SSSL. May I know what SW you are having pl.? I am sending my own analysis for your> > kind perusal in a few days. If you find the result of my view is wrong, I request you to please point out for my incorrect > > observation and where I have erred. It is only for my learning purpose and not to challenge your views pl> > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > K.S.V.Ramani.> > observation -- Original Message ----- > > Luther Rath > > @gro ups.com > > Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:04 PM> > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > Namaskar.> > Kindly see the attached file for the prediction regarding education and profession of your son. Kindly reply.> > With due regards.> > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > > > ------> > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>> > > > @gro ups.com> > Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:07:12 PM> > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Mr.Tin Winji,> > > > I am extremely sorry that the date of birth of the boy was erroneously indicated by slip. The correct date of birth of the boy is 24th July, 1995 Monday (he has completed 13 years of age & is running 14th year studying in 9th Class in a reputed school at Chennai). Other particulars Time of Birth, Place of Birth etc. are correct.> > TOB 20-14 IST; POB Chennai Mambalam Long.13-4 (N)> > (GC)- Lat.80-17(E) Ayanamsa 23-42-26 (NKP) generated> > from KP Astro 3.0. I earnestly request you to examine> > the chart on the lines requested by me in my previous mail..> > With regards,> > Astrologically yours,> > K.S.V.Ramani> > - > > Luther Rath > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:15 AM> > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > Good Morning.> > The boy concerned was born in the yearof 1965 as mentioned. Is that correct. If it is right he has already attained age of 43 years.Where comes the question of education now. Do you want to have a retrospective analysis? Kindly clerify.> > With regards.> > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > > > ----> > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, January 2, 2002 3:31:50 PM> > Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Tin Winji,> > > > There is difference of opinion between 2 KP followers reg. line of education and profession in respect of the following chart. I request you kindly to give your valued opinion :> > (1) Boy's Education prospects; (2) whether it relates to > > professional education or otherwise; (3) If it relates to profession, what line (Medl. or Engg. etc); (4) whether he> > can get higher ediucation without any interruption.> > > > Male: DOB 24-7-1965 Monday; TOB 20-14 (8-144 PM)> > POB Lat.13(N)-6' ' Long.80-12(E) ; KP Ayanamsa 23-42-18.> > > > Thanking you,> > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> >>

November 17, 2008

Dear Mr. Ramini ji,

1. As per the various references, the boy can obtain a degree with

some obsticles.

2. The role of Mercury as Bhukti and as Dasa is different in the

current discussion of marriage. For instance, one who married in Ra-

Me DB can not be expected to marry again in Me-Ra DB.

Regards,

tw

, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani

wrote:

>

> Dear Mr.Tin Winji.

> Many thanks for yourr taking pains to get various references

> to substantiate your message. In my experience of anlying few

charts, I have found that 'E' grade significator by conjunction or

aspect with the primary significator has given the desired result.

In the current discussion of marriage tooit is noticed that 'E' Grade

significator has given the marriage. So let the Boy face his destiny.

Thanking you once again.

>

> Astrologically yours,

>

> K.S.V.Ramani

> -

> tw853

>

> Monday, November 17, 2008 8:33 AM

> Re: Line of education and profession.- - -

KP & OTHER OWN WAYS

>

> KP

>

> 1. This is the KP rule of the grade E significator as follows:

>

> a) PAGE 149 OF K.P. READER V (SEPT 1983 EDITION)

> To note the order of the significators, this is the rule.

> (5) Very weak but yet those connected with a bhava are those

planets

> conjoined with or aspected by the significators found out already.

>

> b) PAGE 42 OF KP YEAR BOOK, 1995 (How to Judge a Nativity by

K.S.K)

> PAGE 6 OF HOW TO JUDGE A NATIVITY BY K. HARIHARAN, 1995

> Very weak but yet those connected with a bhava are those planets

conjoined with or aspected by significators found out already.

>

> 2. This implies that ---

>

> a) conj or aspect by the significator (planet) of grade A to D;

>

> b) by Hindu conj or aspect without orb;

>

> c) no special conj or aspt rule.

>

> 3. Regarding the KP significator of order E,

>

> a) for 4CSL Ma, thre is no required 9th house for higher

education through aspecting Sa of 10,1,2,11,1,12 significators by

order;

>

> b) for 9 CSL Me, the required 11th house is there for higher

education through conj Ve of 2,5,2,11,4,9 significators by order;

>

> c) for 11 CSL Ra, there is no required 9th house for higher

education.

>

> 4. The KP 'A to D' significators for the required houses are as

under:

>

> a) 4CSL Ma(7, 3-10) is in star Su(6, 7) and sub Ve+(5, 4-9). 4CSL

is not a significator of required 9th house but is connected to the

9th house by sub. It signifies undesirable 3 and is connected to

undesirable 5. Ve+ with no planet in its star is the sub lord of

1,2,8 and the signification of 8 is undesirable.

>

> b) 9CSL Me+(5, 5-8) is in star & sub of Sa(1, 1-12). 9CSL is not

a significator of required 11th house but a significator of the

undesirable 5,8,12.

>

> c) 11CSL Ra(8)[sgl Ve+(5, 4-9)] is in own star and sub Ra(8)[sgl

Ve+(5, 4-9)]. 11CSL is a significator of the required 9th house along

with the undesirable 8,5.

>

> Mr. Suresh Shahasane's Own Way

>

> 5. Without mixing up with KP, in going after the star lord Mr.

Suresh Shahasane's Own Way may be tried as under:

>

> " When a planet is in its own star then it gives results indicated

by its Sub and if it is in

> its own star and its own Sub then it gives results indicated by

its Sub-Sub. "

>

> 6. 11CSL Ra in own star and own sub is supposed to give the

results of sub Ju(10, 2-11). It is not a significator of the required

9th house.

>

> Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar's Own Way, 4 Step Theory

>

> 7. Without mixing up with KP, the 4 step primary significators

(as per KPAstro. 3.0) are as follows:

>

> a) 4CSL Ma is the primary significator of the required 9th house;

>

> Planet Ma: Cnj 8

>

> Starlord of Ma is Su: 6

>

> Sublord of Ma is Ve+: 5; 9

>

> Starlord of Ve is Ju: 10; 11; Asp 2; Asp 4; Cnj 10

>

> b) 9CSL Me Ma is the primary significator of the required 11th

house;

>

> Planet Me+: 5; Asp 12; Cnj 6

>

> Starlord of Me is Sa: 1; 12

>

> Sublord of Me is Sa:

>

> Starlord of Sa is Ju: 10; 11; Asp 2; Asp 4; Cnj 10

>

> c) 11CSL Ra is the primary significator of the required 9th house.

>

> Planet Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)

>

> Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)

>

> Sublord of Ra is Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)

>

> Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)

>

> 8. Dasa lord Ra is the primary significator of required 9th

house along with the undesirable 8, 5. Bhukti lord Ma is the primary

significator of required 4,6,9,11 houses along with the undesirable

8, 5.

>

> Cuspal Interliks through Sub, KB

>

> 9. KB may be tried as follows: (The chart is calculated using KP

Straight Line Ayanamsa 23:47:01.)

>

> a) 4CSL Ma is interlinked with the unfavorable 8,12 through its

star lord Su and 1,2,8 through 1,2,8. It is not interlinked with the

required 9th house.

>

> b) 9CSL Me is in the star & sub of Sa, which is the sub lord of

6, 12. It is not interlinked with the required 11th house.

>

> c) 11CSL Ra is in own star & sub of Ra, which is the sub lord of

favorable 5, 11. It is not interlinked with the required 9th house.

>

> Cuspal Interliks through Sub Sub

>

> 10. Its own way may be tried as given under:

>

> a) 4CSSL Ra is in own Ra star and Ra sub. Ra appears in the

cuspal positions 3,4,5,9,10,11. Ra represents Ve, which is in the

cuspal positions 1,2,8,12. It is interlinked with the required 9 and

favorable 4,5,11 along with unfavorable 8,12;

>

> b) 9CSSL Me is in the star,sub and sub sub of Sa, which is in the

cuspal positions 1,2,5,6,7,10,12. It is not interlinked with the

required 11.

>

> c) 11CSSL Su is in Sa star and Ke sub. Sa is in the cuspal

positions 1,2,5,6,7,10,12. It is not interlinked with the required 9.

>

> Observation

>

> 11. The 4 step results give the best indication of higher

education.

>

, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr.Tin Winji,

> > From your argument, I understand that unless there is direct

signfn of 9th & 11th, Mars cannot signify 9th and similarly Sun

unless it has direct signfn.of 4th, 9,th & 11th, Sun cannot signify

4,9,11th. In stright analysis this is correct. I think that by

conjunction rule also, the signfn.of house is decided by taking into

a/c of conjunct planet's position and its signfns. . In this case,

Sun by step 1 (4 step theory) becomes strong for 9th by conjunction

with Merc.(within orb), a self strength planet. Mars thro Step 2 gets

the signfn. of Sun's 9th signfn. Otherwise why there should be

special conjunction rule. This is my actual doubt. This may kindly be

clarified. Doubt No.2, it is repeatedly stressed that Sun, Mercury +

and Mars do not signify 11th. My opinion is Sun thro his S/L Kethu +,

who is in the sub of Rahu + strong CSL of 11th cusp; Mercury thro his

star and sublord of Saturn signifies 11th by virtue of Sat. in the

star of Jupiter lord of 2 and 11. Similarly Mars thro his S/L/ Venus

who is also in thestar of Jupiter l/o 2 & 11, all the 3 get

signifn.of 11th. So I feel that Mars gets 4th, 9th and 11th, Sun &

Merc. signify 9th and 11th houses. This is as per KP Rule and also by

4 step rule. This may kindly be reexamined and I may be given

authentic advice on both the doubts. Of course, I admit all the 4

planets i) Mercury, Venus, Mars, Moon get the undesirabe signfn. of

8th and Merc.+ and Venus + are getting 5th; but 5th signfn. may be

little better,as it 2nd to 4th and 9th to 9th. This point also may

kindly be clarified. ber=signfnAstrologically yours,

> > K.S.V.Ramani

> > -

> > tw853

> >

> > Friday, November 14, 2008 8:11 PM

> > Re: Line of education and profession.

> >

> > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,

> >

> > 1. As it's interesting, let me join even though I don't know

what Dr. Luther Rath has discussed in his file and my opinion is

given as below:

> >

> > Message#20765

> > Male, 24 Jul 1995, Monday; 20-14 PM IST, 13 N 06, 80 E 12, NKPA

23-42-18, Asc Aq 04-18-05, Nars Dasa bal 1Y-4M-14D (KPAstro 3.0)

> > 4 (lower education) CSL Ma(7, 3-10) is in the star of Su(6, 7)

and in the sub of Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and becoming

a strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of these

cusps (as per K.M. Subramanium, Vaikari Ramamurthy, Kuppu Ganapathi,

Kanak Bosmia and others). Ma does not signify 4, 11, especially 9 but

connected to 4,9 by the sub. Connection to 3,5,8 is undesirable.

> >

> > 2. KP Significator Order E

> > (e) Those planets conjoined with or aspected by any of the

significators of order A to E. (Message#7295)

> > According to the sublord rule by experience of K.M.

Subramaniam, Vaikari Ramamurthy, Kuppu Ganapathi, Kanak Bosmia etc,

Mercury with no planet in its star is a significator of 9th (out of

4,9,11 for education) by being the sublord of cusps 3,9. But Sun is

not a significator of any of 4,9,11.

> >

> > 3. It is also to take 5,8 signification of Mercury by

occupation and ownership along with 3.9 by being the sublord of these

cusps with no planet in Mercury's star.

> >

> > 4. Overall judgement is to be done by taking all these positive

and negative significators. The same thing will be with the Mars

Bhukti in Rahu Dasa.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , " Ramani " kadavasalramani@

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath,

> > >

> > > On re-examining your analysis of the boy's chart, against Sl.

V of the attachment, it is stated tthat Mars CSL of 4th is connected

to 4th only & not 9th. I have a doubt on this.

> > > Can't we take Mars gets signification of 9th for 2 reasons:

(1) Mars is in the star of Sun, who is in close conjunction

> > > with Merc. within the orb permissible, who is 9th CSL strong

with self strength. Hence Sun will give the result of Mercury's 9th

(CSL of 9th) and Mars in turn will give the result of 9th thro' his

star lord Sun; (2) This signfn. of Mars is considered fruitful by the

sub lord of Mars Venus, who is also self strength planet. Thus Mars

can be taken fruitful for both 4th & 9th, in my opinion. Kindly

confirm whether I am correct of not.

> > >

> > > Astrologically yours.

> > >

> > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > >

> > > Luther Rath

> > >

> > > Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:52 AM

> > > Re: Line of education and profession.

> > >

> > > Dear Ramaniji,

> > > Please see the attached file. Kindly reply.

> > > Regards.

> > > Dr. Luther Rath

> > >

> > > -----------------------------

----------------

> > > Ramani kadavasalramani@

> > >

> > > Saturday, November 8, 2008 8:13:05 PM

> > > Re: Line of education and profession.

> > >

> > > Dear Dr. Luther Rath,

> > >

> > > Hope you would have got the attachment of my analysis of the

Boy's chart. I am anxiously awaiting your observatios. Kindly let me

know your views.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > > -

> > > Venkataramani KS

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Cc: rathluther

> > > Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:18 PM

> > > Re: Line of education and profession.

> > >

> > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Tin Winji

> > >

> > > In continuation of my mail on receipt of your views on the

chart of the boy, I am attaching my own observation for your kind

perusal. If my view is incorrect, kindly correct me with reason.

> > >

> > > Astrologically yours,

> > >

> > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > >

> > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Luther Rath rathluther (AT) (DOT)

com> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramaniji,

> > > Good Morning.

> > > I use Jagannath Hora 7.2 advocated my many of the members.

Kindly send your observations. I don't think I can be able to find

out any error in your observations. Interpritations by two persons

will definitely differ. That cannot be called an error. By examining

the jusifications we may try to compromise and may reach to a

consensus. I am prepared to agree to my errors if any. It will help

us to learn and refine our presdictions.

> > > Thanking you.

> > > With regards.

> > > Dr. Luther Rath.

> > >

> > > -----------------------------

------------

> > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>

> > > @gro ups.com

> > >

> > > Friday, October 31, 2008 11:45:27 AM

> > >

> > > Re: Line of education and profession.

> > >

> > > Dear Dr.Luther Ratth,

> > >

> > > I am very much thankful to you for your fine analysis of the

chart sent by me. I am using KP ASTRO 3.0 SW and there is slight

differences in SSL & SSSL. May I know what SW you are having pl.? I

am sending my own analysis for your

> > > kind perusal in a few days. If you find the result of my view

is wrong, I request you to please point out for my incorrect

> > > observation and where I have erred. It is only for my

learning purpose and not to challenge your views pl

> > >

> > > Astrologically yours,

> > >

> > > K.S.V.Ramani.

> > > observation -- Original Message -----

> > > Luther Rath

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:04 PM

> > > Re: Line of education and profession.

> > >

> > > Dear Ramaniji,

> > > Namaskar.

> > > Kindly see the attached file for the prediction regarding

education and profession of your son. Kindly reply.

> > > With due regards.

> > > Dr. Luther Rath

> > >

> > > -----------------------------

----------

> > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:07:12 PM

> > > Re: Line of education and profession.

> > >

> > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Mr.Tin Winji,

> > >

> > > I am extremely sorry that the date of birth of the boy was

erroneously indicated by slip. The correct date of birth of the boy

is 24th July, 1995 Monday (he has completed 13 years of age & is

running 14th year studying in 9th Class in a reputed school at

Chennai). Other particulars Time of Birth, Place of Birth etc. are

correct.

> > > TOB 20-14 IST; POB Chennai Mambalam Long.13-4 (N)

> > > (GC)- Lat.80-17(E) Ayanamsa 23-42-26 (NKP) generated

> > > from KP Astro 3.0. I earnestly request you to examine

> > > the chart on the lines requested by me in my previous mail..

> > > With regards,

> > > Astrologically yours,

> > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > -

> > > Luther Rath

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:15 AM

> > > Re: Line of education and profession.

> > >

> > > Dear Ramaniji,

> > > Good Morning.

> > > The boy concerned was born in the yearof 1965 as mentioned.

Is that correct. If it is right he has already attained age of 43

years.Where comes the question of education now. Do you want to have

a retrospective analysis? Kindly clerify.

> > > With regards.

> > > Dr. Luther Rath

> > >

> > > -----------------------------

--------

> > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Wednesday, January 2, 2002 3:31:50 PM

> > > Line of education and profession.

> > >

> > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Tin Winji,

> > >

> > > There is difference of opinion between 2 KP followers reg.

line of education and profession in respect of the following chart. I

request you kindly to give your valued opinion :

> > > (1) Boy's Education prospects; (2) whether it relates to

> > > professional education or otherwise; (3) If it relates to

profession, what line (Medl. or Engg. etc); (4) whether he

> > > can get higher ediucation without any interruption.

> > >

> > > Male: DOB 24-7-1965 Monday; TOB 20-14 (8-144 PM)

> > > POB Lat.13(N)-6' ' Long.80-12(E) ; KP Ayanamsa 23-42-18.

> > >

> > > Thanking you,

> > >

> > > Astrologically yours,

> > >

> > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > >

> >

>

November 17, 2008

Dear Mr. Ramani ji,

Could you kindly expalain how " too it is noticed that 'E' Grade significator has given the marriage in the current discussion of marriage" because the 'E' Grade significators for Mercury as per KPAstro 3.0 are 1,5,6,8,9,10,12 only without 2,7,11 houses.

Thanks and regards,

tw

, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani wrote:>> Dear Mr.Tin Winji.> Many thanks for yourr taking pains to get various references> to substantiate your message. In my experience of anlying few charts, I have found that 'E' grade significator by conjunction or aspect with the primary significator has given the desired result. In the current discussion of marriage tooit is noticed that 'E' Grade significator has given the marriage. So let the Boy face his destiny. Thanking you once again.> > Astrologically yours,> > K.S.V.Ramani > - > tw853 > > Monday, November 17, 2008 8:33 AM> Re: Line of education and profession.- - - KP & OTHER OWN WAYS> > > > > KP > > > > 1. This is the KP rule of the grade E significator as follows:> > a) PAGE 149 OF K.P. READER V (SEPT 1983 EDITION)> To note the order of the significators, this is the rule.> (5) Very weak but yet those connected with a bhava are those planets> conjoined with or aspected by the significators found out already.> > b) PAGE 42 OF KP YEAR BOOK, 1995 (How to Judge a Nativity by K.S.K)> PAGE 6 OF HOW TO JUDGE A NATIVITY BY K. HARIHARAN, 1995> Very weak but yet those connected with a bhava are those planets conjoined with or aspected by significators found out already.> > > > 2. This implies that ---> > a) conj or aspect by the significator (planet) of grade A to D;> > b) by Hindu conj or aspect without orb; > > c) no special conj or aspt rule.> > > > 3. Regarding the KP significator of order E, > > > a) for 4CSL Ma, thre is no required 9th house for higher education through aspecting Sa of 10,1,2,11,1,12 significators by order;> > b) for 9 CSL Me, the required 11th house is there for higher education through conj Ve of 2,5,2,11,4,9 significators by order; > > c) for 11 CSL Ra, there is no required 9th house for higher education. > > > > 4. The KP 'A to D' significators for the required houses are as under:> > a) 4CSL Ma(7, 3-10) is in star Su(6, 7) and sub Ve+(5, 4-9). 4CSL is not a significator of required 9th house but is connected to the 9th house by sub. It signifies undesirable 3 and is connected to undesirable 5. Ve+ with no planet in its star is the sub lord of 1,2,8 and the signification of 8 is undesirable.> > b) 9CSL Me+(5, 5-8) is in star & sub of Sa(1, 1-12). 9CSL is not a significator of required 11th house but a significator of the undesirable 5,8,12.> > c) 11CSL Ra(8)[sgl Ve+(5, 4-9)] is in own star and sub Ra(8)[sgl Ve+(5, 4-9)]. 11CSL is a significator of the required 9th house along with the undesirable 8,5.> > > > Mr. Suresh Shahasane's Own Way> > > > 5. Without mixing up with KP, in going after the star lord Mr. Suresh Shahasane's Own Way may be tried as under:> > "When a planet is in its own star then it gives results indicated by its Sub and if it is in> its own star and its own Sub then it gives results indicated by its Sub-Sub."> > > > 6. 11CSL Ra in own star and own sub is supposed to give the results of sub Ju(10, 2-11). It is not a significator of the required 9th house.> > > > Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar's Own Way, 4 Step Theory> > > > 7. Without mixing up with KP, the 4 step primary significators (as per KPAstro. 3.0) are as follows:> > > > a) 4CSL Ma is the primary significator of the required 9th house;> > Planet Ma: Cnj 8> > Starlord of Ma is Su: 6> > Sublord of Ma is Ve+: 5; 9> > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 10; 11; Asp 2; Asp 4; Cnj 10> > > > b) 9CSL Me Ma is the primary significator of the required 11th house;> > Planet Me+: 5; Asp 12; Cnj 6> > Starlord of Me is Sa: 1; 12> > Sublord of Me is Sa:> > Starlord of Sa is Ju: 10; 11; Asp 2; Asp 4; Cnj 10> > > > c) 11CSL Ra is the primary significator of the required 9th house.> > Planet Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)> > Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)> > Sublord of Ra is Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)> > Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 8; Sgl Ve(5, 9)> > > > 8. Dasa lord Ra is the primary significator of required 9th house along with the undesirable 8, 5. Bhukti lord Ma is the primary significator of required 4,6,9,11 houses along with the undesirable 8, 5.> > > > Cuspal Interliks through Sub, KB> > > > 9. KB may be tried as follows: (The chart is calculated using KP Straight Line Ayanamsa 23:47:01.)> > > > a) 4CSL Ma is interlinked with the unfavorable 8,12 through its star lord Su and 1,2,8 through 1,2,8. It is not interlinked with the required 9th house.> > b) 9CSL Me is in the star & sub of Sa, which is the sub lord of 6, 12. It is not interlinked with the required 11th house.> > c) 11CSL Ra is in own star & sub of Ra, which is the sub lord of favorable 5, 11. It is not interlinked with the required 9th house.> > > > Cuspal Interliks through Sub Sub> > > > 10. Its own way may be tried as given under:> > > > a) 4CSSL Ra is in own Ra star and Ra sub. Ra appears in the cuspal positions 3,4,5,9,10,11. Ra represents Ve, which is in the cuspal positions 1,2,8,12. It is interlinked with the required 9 and favorable 4,5,11 along with unfavorable 8,12;> > b) 9CSSL Me is in the star,sub and sub sub of Sa, which is in the cuspal positions 1,2,5,6,7,10,12. It is not interlinked with the required 11.> > c) 11CSSL Su is in Sa star and Ke sub. Sa is in the cuspal positions 1,2,5,6,7,10,12. It is not interlinked with the required 9.> > > > Observation> > > > > 11. The 4 step results give the best indication of higher education.> > > > > > > > > , "Ramani" kadavasalramani@ wrote:> >> > Dear Mr.Tin Winji,> > From your argument, I understand that unless there is direct signfn of 9th & 11th, Mars cannot signify 9th and similarly Sun unless it has direct signfn.of 4th, 9,th & 11th, Sun cannot signify 4,9,11th. In stright analysis this is correct. I think that by conjunction rule also, the signfn.of house is decided by taking into a/c of conjunct planet's position and its signfns. . In this case, Sun by step 1 (4 step theory) becomes strong for 9th by conjunction with Merc.(within orb), a self strength planet. Mars thro Step 2 gets the signfn. of Sun's 9th signfn. Otherwise why there should be special conjunction rule. This is my actual doubt. This may kindly be clarified. Doubt No.2, it is repeatedly stressed that Sun, Mercury + and Mars do not signify 11th. My opinion is Sun thro his S/L Kethu +, who is in the sub of Rahu + strong CSL of 11th cusp; Mercury thro his star and sublord of Saturn signifies 11th by virtue of Sat. in the star of Jupiter lord of 2 and 11. Similarly Mars thro his S/L/ Venus who is also in thestar of Jupiter l/o 2 & 11, all the 3 get signifn.of 11th. So I feel that Mars gets 4th, 9th and 11th, Sun & Merc. signify 9th and 11th houses. This is as per KP Rule and also by 4 step rule. This may kindly be reexamined and I may be given authentic advice on both the doubts. Of course, I admit all the 4 planets i) Mercury, Venus, Mars, Moon get the undesirabe signfn. of 8th and Merc.+ and Venus + are getting 5th; but 5th signfn. may be little better,as it 2nd to 4th and 9th to 9th. This point also may kindly be clarified. ber=signfnAstrologically yours,> > K.S.V.Ramani > > - > > tw853 > > > > Friday, November 14, 2008 8:11 PM> > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,> > > > 1. As it's interesting, let me join even though I don't know what Dr. Luther Rath has discussed in his file and my opinion is given as below:> > > > Message#20765> > Male, 24 Jul 1995, Monday; 20-14 PM IST, 13 N 06, 80 E 12, NKPA 23-42-18, Asc Aq 04-18-05, Nars Dasa bal 1Y-4M-14D (KPAstro 3.0)> > 4 (lower education) CSL Ma(7, 3-10) is in the star of Su(6, 7) and in the sub of Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and becoming a strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of these cusps (as per K.M. Subramanium, Vaikari Ramamurthy, Kuppu Ganapathi, Kanak Bosmia and others). Ma does not signify 4, 11, especially 9 but connected to 4,9 by the sub. Connection to 3,5,8 is undesirable.> > > > 2. KP Significator Order E> > (e) Those planets conjoined with or aspected by any of the significators of order A to E. (Message#7295)> > According to the sublord rule by experience of K.M. Subramaniam, Vaikari Ramamurthy, Kuppu Ganapathi, Kanak Bosmia etc, Mercury with no planet in its star is a significator of 9th (out of 4,9,11 for education) by being the sublord of cusps 3,9. But Sun is not a significator of any of 4,9,11.> > > > 3. It is also to take 5,8 signification of Mercury by occupation and ownership along with 3.9 by being the sublord of these cusps with no planet in Mercury's star.> > > > 4. Overall judgement is to be done by taking all these positive and negative significators. The same thing will be with the Mars Bhukti in Rahu Dasa.> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ramani" kadavasalramani@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath,> > > > > > On re-examining your analysis of the boy's chart, against Sl. V of the attachment, it is stated tthat Mars CSL of 4th is connected to 4th only & not 9th. I have a doubt on this.> > > Can't we take Mars gets signification of 9th for 2 reasons: (1) Mars is in the star of Sun, who is in close conjunction > > > with Merc. within the orb permissible, who is 9th CSL strong with self strength. Hence Sun will give the result of Mercury's 9th (CSL of 9th) and Mars in turn will give the result of 9th thro' his star lord Sun; (2) This signfn. of Mars is considered fruitful by the sub lord of Mars Venus, who is also self strength planet. Thus Mars can be taken fruitful for both 4th & 9th, in my opinion. Kindly confirm whether I am correct of not.> > > > > > Astrologically yours.> > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > Luther Rath > > > > > > Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:52 AM> > > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > > Please see the attached file. Kindly reply.> > > Regards.> > > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramani kadavasalramani@> > > > > > Saturday, November 8, 2008 8:13:05 PM> > > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr. Luther Rath,> > > > > > Hope you would have got the attachment of my analysis of the Boy's chart. I am anxiously awaiting your observatios. Kindly let me know your views.> > > > > > With regards,> > > - > > > Venkataramani KS > > > @gro ups.com > > > Cc: rathluther > > > Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:18 PM> > > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Tin Winji> > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of my mail on receipt of your views on the chart of the boy, I am attaching my own observation for your kind perusal. If my view is incorrect, kindly correct me with reason.> > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > > Good Morning.> > > I use Jagannath Hora 7.2 advocated my many of the members. Kindly send your observations. I don't think I can be able to find out any error in your observations. Interpritations by two persons will definitely differ. That cannot be called an error. By examining the jusifications we may try to compromise and may reach to a consensus. I am prepared to agree to my errors if any. It will help us to learn and refine our presdictions.> > > Thanking you.> > > With regards.> > > Dr. Luther Rath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------> > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>> > > @gro ups.com> > > > > > Friday, October 31, 2008 11:45:27 AM > > > > > > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Ratth,> > > > > > I am very much thankful to you for your fine analysis of the chart sent by me. I am using KP ASTRO 3.0 SW and there is slight differences in SSL & SSSL. May I know what SW you are having pl.? I am sending my own analysis for your> > > kind perusal in a few days. If you find the result of my view is wrong, I request you to please point out for my incorrect > > > observation and where I have erred. It is only for my learning purpose and not to challenge your views pl> > > > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani.> > > observation -- Original Message ----- > > > Luther Rath > > > @gro ups.com > > > Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:04 PM> > > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > > Namaskar.> > > Kindly see the attached file for the prediction regarding education and profession of your son. Kindly reply.> > > With due regards.> > > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------> > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>> > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:07:12 PM> > > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Mr.Tin Winji,> > > > > > I am extremely sorry that the date of birth of the boy was erroneously indicated by slip. The correct date of birth of the boy is 24th July, 1995 Monday (he has completed 13 years of age & is running 14th year studying in 9th Class in a reputed school at Chennai). Other particulars Time of Birth, Place of Birth etc. are correct.> > > TOB 20-14 IST; POB Chennai Mambalam Long.13-4 (N)> > > (GC)- Lat.80-17(E) Ayanamsa 23-42-26 (NKP) generated> > > from KP Astro 3.0. I earnestly request you to examine> > > the chart on the lines requested by me in my previous mail..> > > With regards,> > > Astrologically yours,> > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > - > > > Luther Rath > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:15 AM> > > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > > Good Morning.> > > The boy concerned was born in the yearof 1965 as mentioned. Is that correct. If it is right he has already attained age of 43 years.Where comes the question of education now. Do you want to have a retrospective analysis? Kindly clerify.> > > With regards.> > > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----> > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, January 2, 2002 3:31:50 PM> > > Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Tin Winji,> > > > > > There is difference of opinion between 2 KP followers reg. line of education and profession in respect of the following chart. I request you kindly to give your valued opinion :> > > (1) Boy's Education prospects; (2) whether it relates to > > > professional education or otherwise; (3) If it relates to profession, what line (Medl. or Engg. etc); (4) whether he> > > can get higher ediucation without any interruption.> > > > > > Male: DOB 24-7-1965 Monday; TOB 20-14 (8-144 PM)> > > POB Lat.13(N)-6' ' Long.80-12(E) ; KP Ayanamsa 23-42-18.> > > > > > Thanking you,> > > > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > >> >>