Guest guest Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 In context of recent discussion on Saturn's role in 5th house in marriage matters, I would request the group to examine my daughter's chart. DOB-19TH Feb.1974 TOB-5:20 AM POB-Jamnagar in Gujrat-(70E02-22N26) Though Saturn is in 5th and throws aspects on 2-7 and 11, it is also one of the marriage significators. Hence I think there is delay but not denial. She is slim tall and fair, highly qualified and holding a senior position in an MNC.There have been several proposals the last one having reached an advanced stage, none has materialised so far.It is a true case of Saturn's delay/denial and resulting frustation as described in the KP Readers. One of the senior astrologers had predicted marriage during the period OCT.2007 to DEC.2007 on the basis of horary. Unfortunately that also has failed. Is it a case of marriage denial or marriage delay and if delay, how long ? Though I am a KP student, I am putting this before the group as a worried/depressed father and seek your views. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Dear Sudhir, Thanks for your prompt response.--- On Tue, 11/4/08, Sudhir <taurus.sudhir wrote: Sudhir <taurus.sudhirRe: Daughter's marriage Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 9:23 PM Dear Hansraj: Her current sub period of Venus under Rahu MD would give her marriage before October 2009.During January and February the proposal would come. The delay is caused by Jupiter and weakness of Saturn which doesnot promise a successful marriage.her chart shoud be properly matched by a very thorough professional astrologer. Marriage would go bad in 2010 onwardsHer profession would also face some serious challenges in coming years. This is my view.. best regards, SudhirConsulting astrologer On 11/4/08, hansraj_vyas <hansraj_vyas@ > wrote: In context of recent discussion on Saturn's role in 5th house in marriage matters, I would request the group to examine my daughter's chart. DOB-19TH Feb.1974TOB-5:20 AMPOB-Jamnagar in Gujrat-(70E02- 22N26) Though Saturn is in 5th and throws aspects on 2-7 and 11, it is also one of the marriage significators. Hence I think there is delay but not denial. She is slim tall and fair, highly qualified and holding a senior position in an MNC.There have been several proposals the last one having reached an advanced stage, none has materialised so far.It is a true case of Saturn's delay/denial and resulting frustation as described in the KP Readers. One of the senior astrologers had predicted marriage during the period OCT.2007 to DEC.2007 on the basis of horary. Unfortunately that also has failed. Is it a case of marriage denial or marriage delay and if delay, how long ? Though I am a KP student, I am putting this before the group as a worried/depressed father and seek your views. Thanks.-- Sudhir Consulting Astrologer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Dear TW ji, Thanks a lot for your prompt and specific analysis. With warm regards, Hansraj.--- On Tue, 11/4/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: Daughter's marriage Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 11:58 PM 1. Female, 19 Feb 1974, 05-20 AM IST, Jamnagar, Gujarat (of my KP younger brother Kanak), 22 N 28, 70 E 04 ( a slight difference as per KPAstro 3.0), NKPA 23-24-21, Asc Cp 01-34-28, Su Dasa bal 4Y-1M-1D (KPAstro 3.0) 2. For information, the result of this chart [Female, 19 Feb 1974, 05-20 AM IST, Jamnagar, Gujarat, 22 N 28, 70 E 06 ( a slight difference), NKPA 23-24-19, Asc Cp 01-35-51, Su Dasa bal 4Y-1M-2D ] by www. astrosage. com is shown at the end of this message. 3. Sa is not in 5th house in Rasi to throw the Hindu aspect on all marriage 7th, 11th, 2nd houses in Rasi. So it doesn't apply the special rule of Sa in 5th house. (Pl note in the chart at the end of this message, Sa is misplaced in Ta but in fact it is in Ge as shown in the attached table of planetary positions.) 4. 7CSL Ra(11) is aspected by Ma(4, 4-11) & Sa+(6 by closed orb, 1-2), no planet in the star of Sa, which self strong for 6; Ra is in the star of Ke(5), conj Sa+(6, 1-2); Rahu's signlord Ju+(1, 3-12), no planet is in the star of Ju which is the sublord of cusps 1, 8. In addition, Ra is the sublord of 2,3,7,9,12 which are deemed connected in KP. Ra is in the sub of Ve+(1, 5-10) which is the sublord of cusp 4 and Ve is a self strong significator of 1 & 4. Thus marriage would be promised (2,7,11) after denials (1,4,6,10,12) and disappointment( 8) with negotiations (3,9) and understanding (5). 5. Current running Dasa Ra (20 Mar 1995 to 20 Mar 2013) would be possible for marriage as Ra's signification is discussed above. 6. Current running Bhukti Ve (11 Oct 2006 to 11 Oct 2009) would not be capable of marriage despite it is a main karaka for marriage. Ve+(1, 5-10) which is the sublord of cusp 4 and Ve is a self strong significator of 1 & 4. Ve is in the star of Su(2 by closed orb, 5-10) but it is in the sub of Sa+(6 by closed orb, 1-2), no planet in the star of Sa, which self strong for 6. 7. Next coming Bhukti Su (11 Oct 2009 to 05 Sept 2010) would be favorable for marriage. Su(2 by closed orb, 8) is in the star of Ma(4, 4-11) and in the sub of Mo+(1 by closed orb, 7), no planet is in the star of Mo which is the sublord of cusps 6, 11. The probable period for marriage is from 11 Oct 2009 to 19 Dec 2009 while transit Ju will be still in Cp as per Sri Shanmugam's rule. Good luck! KP Planets & Cusps Balance Of Dasha : SUN 4 Y 1 M 2 D Planets PLANET DEGREE RAS-NAK-SUB- SS Ret/Dir SUN 306-33-07 SAT-MAR-MON- VEN Direct MOON 270-54-32 SAT-SUN-RAH- SUN Direct MARS 031-59-27 VEN-SUN-JUP- MER Direct MERCURY 317-34-28 SAT-RAH-SUN- RAH Retrograde JUPITER 302-27-21 SAT-MAR-KET- SAT Direct VENUS 273-02-31 SAT-SUN-SAT- SAT Direct SATURN 064-27-07 MER-MAR-VEN- MER Retrograde RAHU 241-55-00 JUP-KET-VEN- JUP Retrograde KETU 061-55-00 MER-MAR-KET- KET Retrograde URANUS 184-10-57 VEN-MAR-VEN- SAT Retrograde NEPTUNE 226-03-06 MAR-SAT-JUP- VEN Direct PLUTO 162-57-06 MER-MON-RAH- MER Retrograde Bhav CUSP DEGREE RAS-NAK-SUB- SS 1 271-35-51 SAT-SUN-JUP- SAT 2 307-34-32 SAT-RAH-RAH- MER 3 343-42-44 JUP-SAT-RAH- SAT 4 015-07-03 MAR-VEN-VEN- MER 5 041-36-37 VEN-MON-MAR- KET 6 065-54-49 MER-MAR-MON- JUP 7 091-35-51 MON-JUP-RAH- RAH 8 127-34-32 SUN-KET-JUP- JUP 9 163-42-44 MER-MON-RAH- MON 10 195-07-03 VEN-RAH-KET- MER 11 221-36-37 MAR-SAT-MON- SAT 12 245-54-49 JUP-KET-RAH- JUP Cusp Chart Significators & Ruling Planets Planet Signification Planets Houses SUN 1 4 8 11 MOON 1 7 8 12 MARS 1 4 8 11 MERCURY 2 6 9 11 JUPITER 1 3 4 11 12 VENUS 1 5 8 10 SATURN 1 2 4 5 11 RAHU 5 11 KETU 4 5 11 Significators of Houses Houses Planets I SUN MOON MARS JUPITER VENUS SATURN II MERCURY SATURN III JUPITER IV SUN MARS JUPITER SATURN KETU V VENUS SATURN RAHU KETU VI MERCURY VII MOON VIII SUN MOON MARS VENUS IX MERCURY X VENUS XI SUN MARS MERCURY JUPITER SATURN RAHU KETU XII MOON JUPITER Ruling Planets Ascendant Nakshatra Lord Sun Ascendant Sign Lord Sat Moon Nakshatra Lord Sun Moon Sign Lord Sat Day Lord Mar Ascendant Sub Lord Jup Moon Sub Lord Rah Vimshottari Dasha Sub-Sub Periods Balance Of Dasha : SUN 4 Y 1 M 2 D ------------ SUN -6 Years ------------ - 19/ 2/74 22/ 3/78 ------------ - SUN 00/00/00 MON 00/00/00 MAR 00/00/00 RAH 10/ 4/74 JUP 28/ 1/75 SAT 10/ 1/76 MER 16/11/76 KET 22/ 3/77 VEN 22/ 3/78 ------------ MON -10 Years ------------ - 22/ 3/78 22/ 3/88 ------------ - MON 22/ 1/79 MAR 22/ 8/79 RAH 22/ 2/81 JUP 22/ 6/82 SAT 22/ 1/84 MER 22/ 6/85 KET 22/ 1/86 VEN 22/ 9/87 SUN 22/ 3/88 ------------ MAR -7 Years ------------ - 22/ 3/88 22/ 3/95 ------------ - MAR 19/ 8/88 RAH 7/ 9/89 JUP 13/ 8/90 SAT 22/ 9/91 MER 19/ 9/92 KET 16/ 2/93 VEN 16/ 4/94 SUN 22/ 8/94 MON 22/ 3/95 ------------ RAH -18 Years ------------ - 22/ 3/95 22/ 3/13 ------------ - RAH 4/12/97 JUP 28/ 4/00 SAT 4/ 3/03 MER 22/ 9/05 KET 10/10/06 VEN 10/10/09 SUN 4/ 9/10 MON 4/ 3/12 MAR 22/ 3/13 ------------ JUP -16 Years ------------ - 22/ 3/13 22/ 3/29 ------------ - JUP 10/ 5/15 SAT 22/11/17 MER 28/ 2/20 KET 4/ 2/21 VEN 4/10/23 SUN 22/ 7/24 MON 22/11/25 MAR 28/10/26 RAH 22/ 3/29 ------------ SAT -19 Years ------------ - 22/ 3/29 22/ 3/48 ------------ - SAT 25/ 3/32 MER 4/12/34 KET 13/ 1/36 VEN 13/ 3/39 SUN 25/ 2/40 MON 25/ 9/41 MAR 4/11/42 RAH 10/ 9/45 JUP 22/ 3/48 ------------ MER -17 Years ------------ - 22/ 3/48 22/ 3/65 ------------ - MER 19/ 8/50 KET 16/ 8/51 VEN 16/ 6/54 SUN 22/ 4/55 MON 22/ 9/56 MAR 19/ 9/57 RAH 7/ 4/60 JUP 13/ 7/62 SAT 22/ 3/65 ------------ KET -7 Years ------------ - 22/ 3/65 22/ 3/72 ------------ - KET 19/ 8/65 VEN 19/10/66 SUN 25/ 2/67 MON 25/ 9/67 MAR 22/ 2/68 RAH 10/ 3/69 JUP 16/ 2/70 SAT 25/ 3/71 MER 22/ 3/72 ------------ VEN -20 Years ------------ - 22/ 3/72 22/ 3/92 ------------ - VEN 22/ 7/75 SUN 22/ 7/76 MON 22/ 3/78 MAR 22/ 5/79 RAH 22/ 5/82 JUP 22/ 1/85 SAT 22/ 3/88 MER 22/ 1/91 KET 22/ 3/92 ------------ SUN -6 Years ------------ - 22/ 3/92 22/ 3/98 ------------ - SUN 10/ 7/92 MON 10/ 1/93 MAR 16/ 5/93 RAH 10/ 4/94 JUP 28/ 1/95 SAT 10/ 1/96 MER 16/11/96 KET 22/ 3/97 VEN 22/ 3/98 @gro ups.com, "hansraj_vyas" <hansraj_vyas@ ...> wrote:>> In context of recent discussion on Saturn's role in 5th house in > marriage matters, I would request the group to examine my daughter's > chart. DOB-19TH Feb.1974> TOB-5:20 AM> POB-Jamnagar in Gujrat-(70E02- 22N26) > Though Saturn is in 5th and throws aspects on 2-7 and 11, it is also > one of the marriage significators. Hence I think there is delay but not > denial. She is slim tall and fair, highly qualified and holding a > senior position in an MNC.There have been several proposals the last > one having reached an advanced stage, none has materialised so far.It > is a true case of Saturn's delay/denial and resulting frustation as > described in the KP Readers. One of the senior astrologers had > predicted marriage during the period OCT.2007 to DEC.2007 on the basis > of horary. Unfortunately that also has failed. Is it a case of marriage > denial or marriage delay and if delay, how long ? Though I am a KP > student, I am putting this before the group as a worried/depressed > father and seek your views. Thanks.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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