Guest guest Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Natal Analysis1. 5/5/1955, 21-37 PM IST, Delhi, 28N41, 77E12, NKPA 23-8-36, Asc Sc 26-04-19, Ra Dasa bal 17Y-0M-9D2. Whether taking 9CSL Mo or 11CSL Ra for 3rd marrige, it is promised.3. But running Dasa Me till 15 May 2024 is not capable of giving marriage as Me does not signify 2,7,11 and in contrary signifies negative 6,10 and disappointment 10.Me(6, 8-10) is in the star of (5, 9) and in own sub Me(6, 8-10).Horary Analysis4. No 115/249, 11/10/2008, 21-23 PM IST, Chandigarh, 30N42, 76E48, NKPA 23-53-22, Asc Vi 13-53-20, Ra Dasa Bal 8Y-2M-4D (KPAstro 3.0)5. By 1 & 11CSL Ju, 7CSL Ra, 3rd marriage is promised.6. But in current running Ra Dasa till 17 Dec 2016, legal marriage (7) is not found despite the possiblity of long term friendship (5,11). Ra(5) is aspected by Ma(1, 3-8) and in the star of Mo(5, 11); Ra's signlord is Sa(12, 5-,6); Ra is inthe sub of Ve(2, 2-9). , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:>> Dear Sujataji,> "The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12". No doubt, Rahu represents Saturn besides Moon. A node is to give results of its constellation lord predominantly that that of sign lord. So Rahu's representation for Saturn shall be weaker. Secondly, Rahu is in the sub of Venus. Venus is not a significator of V, VI or XII so these houses will not be significant. But Since Venus owns II and XI and occupies II; Rahu shall give result of these houses. So one need not bother regarding Rahu representing Saturn.> > "Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage." > Yes, Mars aspects Rahu (4th aspect). So you may expect some hindrance, no doubt. But please note that Mars occupies constellation of Rahu the dasa lord. So Mars has to support Rahu. Therefore, if Rahu gives marriage, Mars does not deny. Yes, Saturn is in XII.\, but Saturn also owns V and it is in the constellation of Venus owner and occupant of II. So Saturn is not an absolute obstruction. > > > "What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me?"> A horary number is specific for the particular query. So we may over look planetary positions for those which are not related with the houses of marriage. Mercury and Sun are not concerned with marriage. Mars as I already mentioned, is in the star of Rahu so it should not be harmful.> > With regards.Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > ________________________________> sujata das sujatadash1 > Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:43:01 PM> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > > Dear Mr Rath> The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12. Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage.> The 7th sub ra rep. sat l/o 6 in 12. Therefore the reference to subs of 6 12> What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me? > Regards> sujata> > --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > Luther Rath rathluther >> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> @gro ups.com> Friday, 31 October, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > Dear Sujataji,> I have analsed your horary char errected for 115 at Chandigarh. The analyis is as follows. Since it is horary one needs to study VII house only whether it is 1st or 3rd marriage. Kindly give your comments.> > > Is marriage promised in future for fulfillment of desire?> XI cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is lord of VII. So it promises marriage.. Jupiter is in the constellation of Venus, the governor of Marriage. This is second favorable sign. Venus owns and occupies II. This is third point that supports. Venus also governs IX; this indicates agreement from the other party.> ". 7th sub rah in 5, signifying 5 11 through star lord, moon." Signification of V and XI by the VII sub lord is favorable for marriage. V and XI also indicates mutual inclination towards each other.> "But one must look at the cuspal sub lords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which are fruitful for marriage." I do not understand this statement.> Marriage may take place during Kethu bhukti not in Mercury bhukti.> Now you are running Rahu mahadasa and Mercury bhukti according to horary.> > With due regards.> Dr. Luther Rath> > > > ________________________________> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:49:44 PM> RE: Re: 3rd marriage> > > How to know if the 3rd marriage is promised to a native?> > If we go by 11th sub, it makes no sense as because it is identical with> 1st marriage (i.e 11th sub signifying 2-family,7-legal bondage> 11-success)> > Regards> > Suprakash > > > @gro ups.com [@gro ups..com] On> Behalf Of vsnm_vdl> Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:55 PM> @gro ups.com> Re: 3rd marriage> > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Astrologers> > I am 53yrs old.I had my 1st marriage with an IPS officer on 13-4-79,> which lasted for a few days as I wanted to marry someone else and I> refused to live with this man.> > But the parson I wanted to marry proposed to me after I had got> engaged to another person, so I refused to marry him as ifelt that I> couldn't let down my parents.> > I got married on 26-6-81 to another IPS officer. He was shot dead on> 19-8-88.> > My children would be employed in another couple of years and I would> be living alone which seems rather difficult.> > I was wondering if a third marriage was possible.> > Current dasa is mer mer,which is in 6th in sun l/o 9 in 5,and own> sub, l/o 8 10.> > As sun is 3rd grade significator of 6 7 11, the marriage seems> possible.> > As 2nd husband is seen from the 2nd house, 3rd can be seen from the> 9th as its 8th to 2nd, thouugh KPs rule for multi-marriages is also> fulfilled.> > I made a horary at chandigarh on 11-10-08 at 9-23pm for 115. The> lagna sub jup signifies 2 9 7 4. 7th sub ra in 5, signifying 5 11> through star lord, moon, and 2 5 6 12 9 through sat. But one must> look at the cuspal sublords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which> are fruitful for marriage.> > The lagna has l/o 8 10 12 in lagna. Maybe I should drop the whole> idea and look for just friends to spend time with.> > I have joined a gruop of people dedicated to bringing spritualism to> the world. I will be initiated into this on 19-10-08. Its a very> powerful Japanese tecqnique. I am sure I will find fulfilment in it as> I have heard and seen a lot of miracles in it by way of healing of> epilepsy cancer asthma etc> > Regards > > Sujata> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger. / invite/> >> Respected Sujatha Madam Garu,> In my opinion for (1) first marriage we have to consider the 7th > house, (2) for second marriage 9th house, and (3) for third marriage > 11th house should be considered. > with best regards> VSN.Murthy> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Dear Mr Rath Ke, agent of mer is in 7.The 2nd marriage, on 26-6-81 was celeberated on mer star day.Considering the dasa signification, maybe its not worth the effort. Regards sujata--- On Tue, 4/11/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:30 AM Natal Analysis1. 5/5/1955, 21-37 PM IST, Delhi, 28N41, 77E12, NKPA 23-8-36, Asc Sc 26-04-19, Ra Dasa bal 17Y-0M-9D2. Whether taking 9CSL Mo or 11CSL Ra for 3rd marrige, it is promised.3. But running Dasa Me till 15 May 2024 is not capable of giving marriage as Me does not signify 2,7,11 and in contrary signifies negative 6,10 and disappointment 10.Me(6, 8-10) is in the star of (5, 9) and in own sub Me(6, 8-10).Horary Analysis4. No 115/249, 11/10/2008, 21-23 PM IST, Chandigarh, 30N42, 76E48, NKPA 23-53-22, Asc Vi 13-53-20, Ra Dasa Bal 8Y-2M-4D (KPAstro 3.0)5. By 1 & 11CSL Ju, 7CSL Ra, 3rd marriage is promised.6. But in current running Ra Dasa till 17 Dec 2016, legal marriage (7) is not found despite the possiblity of long term friendship (5,11). Ra(5) is aspected by Ma(1, 3-8) and in the star of Mo(5, 11); Ra's signlord is Sa(12, 5-,6); Ra is inthe sub of Ve(2, 2-9).@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sujataji,> "The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12". No doubt, Rahu represents Saturn besides Moon. A node is to give results of its constellation lord predominantly that that of sign lord. So Rahu's representation for Saturn shall be weaker. Secondly, Rahu is in the sub of Venus. Venus is not a significator of V, VI or XII so these houses will not be significant. But Since Venus owns II and XI and occupies II; Rahu shall give result of these houses. So one need not bother regarding Rahu representing Saturn.> > "Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage." > Yes, Mars aspects Rahu (4th aspect). So you may expect some hindrance, no doubt. But please note that Mars occupies constellation of Rahu the dasa lord. So Mars has to support Rahu. Therefore, if Rahu gives marriage, Mars does not deny. Yes, Saturn is in XII.\, but Saturn also owns V and it is in the constellation of Venus owner and occupant of II. So Saturn is not an absolute obstruction. > > > "What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me?"> A horary number is specific for the particular query. So we may over look planetary positions for those which are not related with the houses of marriage. Mercury and Sun are not concerned with marriage. Mars as I already mentioned, is in the star of Rahu so it should not be harmful.> > With regards.Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> @gro ups.com> Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:43:01 PM> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > > Dear Mr Rath> The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12. Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2.. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage.> The 7th sub ra rep. sat l/o 6 in 12. Therefore the reference to subs of 6 12> What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me? > Regards> sujata> > --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther (AT) (DOT) . com> wrote:> > Luther Rath rathluther >> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> @gro ups.com> Friday, 31 October, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > Dear Sujataji,> I have analsed your horary char errected for 115 at Chandigarh. The analyis is as follows. Since it is horary one needs to study VII house only whether it is 1st or 3rd marriage. Kindly give your comments.> > > Is marriage promised in future for fulfillment of desire?> XI cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is lord of VII. So it promises marriage.. Jupiter is in the constellation of Venus, the governor of Marriage. This is second favorable sign. Venus owns and occupies II. This is third point that supports. Venus also governs IX; this indicates agreement from the other party.> ". 7th sub rah in 5, signifying 5 11 through star lord, moon." Signification of V and XI by the VII sub lord is favorable for marriage. V and XI also indicates mutual inclination towards each other.> "But one must look at the cuspal sub lords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which are fruitful for marriage." I do not understand this statement.> Marriage may take place during Kethu bhukti not in Mercury bhukti.> Now you are running Rahu mahadasa and Mercury bhukti according to horary.> > With due regards.> Dr. Luther Rath> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:49:44 PM> RE: Re: 3rd marriage> > > How to know if the 3rd marriage is promised to a native?> > If we go by 11th sub, it makes no sense as because it is identical with> 1st marriage (i.e 11th sub signifying 2-family,7-legal bondage> 11-success)> > Regards> > Suprakash > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@gro ups..com] On> Behalf Of vsnm_vdl> Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:55 PM> @gro ups.com> Re: 3rd marriage> > --- In @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Astrologers> > I am 53yrs old.I had my 1st marriage with an IPS officer on 13-4-79,> which lasted for a few days as I wanted to marry someone else and I> refused to live with this man.> > But the parson I wanted to marry proposed to me after I had got> engaged to another person, so I refused to marry him as ifelt that I> couldn't let down my parents.> > I got married on 26-6-81 to another IPS officer. He was shot dead on> 19-8-88.> > My children would be employed in another couple of years and I would> be living alone which seems rather difficult.> > I was wondering if a third marriage was possible.> > Current dasa is mer mer,which is in 6th in sun l/o 9 in 5,and own> sub, l/o 8 10.> > As sun is 3rd grade significator of 6 7 11, the marriage seems> possible.> > As 2nd husband is seen from the 2nd house, 3rd can be seen from the> 9th as its 8th to 2nd, thouugh KPs rule for multi-marriages is also> fulfilled.> > I made a horary at chandigarh on 11-10-08 at 9-23pm for 115. The> lagna sub jup signifies 2 9 7 4. 7th sub ra in 5, signifying 5 11> through star lord, moon, and 2 5 6 12 9 through sat. But one must> look at the cuspal sublords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which> are fruitful for marriage.> > The lagna has l/o 8 10 12 in lagna. Maybe I should drop the whole> idea and look for just friends to spend time with.> > I have joined a gruop of people dedicated to bringing spritualism to> the world. I will be initiated into this on 19-10-08. Its a very> powerful Japanese tecqnique. I am sure I will find fulfilment in it as> I have heard and seen a lot of miracles in it by way of healing of> epilepsy cancer asthma etc> > Regards > > Sujata> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger. / invite/> >> Respected Sujatha Madam Garu,> In my opinion for (1) first marriage we have to consider the 7th > house, (2) for second marriage 9th house, and (3) for third marriage > 11th house should be considered. > with best regards> VSN.Murthy> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 --- On Tue, 11/4/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 4:00 AM Natal Analysis1. 5/5/1955, 21-37 PM IST, Delhi, 28N41, 77E12, NKPA 23-8-36, Asc Sc 26-04-19, Ra Dasa bal 17Y-0M-9D2. Whether taking 9CSL Mo or 11CSL Ra for 3rd marrige, it is promised.3. But running Dasa Me till 15 May 2024 is not capable of giving marriage as Me does not signify 2,7,11 and in contrary signifies negative 6,10 and disappointment 10.Me(6, 8-10) is in the star of (5, 9) and in own sub Me(6, 8-10).Horary Analysis4. No 115/249, 11/10/2008, 21-23 PM IST, Chandigarh, 30N42, 76E48, NKPA 23-53-22, Asc Vi 13-53-20, Ra Dasa Bal 8Y-2M-4D (KPAstro 3.0)5. By 1 & 11CSL Ju, 7CSL Ra, 3rd marriage is promised.6. But in current running Ra Dasa till 17 Dec 2016, legal marriage (7) is not found despite the possiblity of long term friendship (5,11). Ra(5) is aspected by Ma(1, 3-8) and in the star of Mo(5, 11); Ra's signlord is Sa(12, 5-,6); Ra is inthe sub of Ve(2, 2-9).@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sujataji,> "The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12". No doubt, Rahu represents Saturn besides Moon. A node is to give results of its constellation lord predominantly that that of sign lord. So Rahu's representation for Saturn shall be weaker. Secondly, Rahu is in the sub of Venus. Venus is not a significator of V, VI or XII so these houses will not be significant. But Since Venus owns II and XI and occupies II; Rahu shall give result of these houses. So one need not bother regarding Rahu representing Saturn.> > "Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage." > Yes, Mars aspects Rahu (4th aspect). So you may expect some hindrance, no doubt. But please note that Mars occupies constellation of Rahu the dasa lord. So Mars has to support Rahu. Therefore, if Rahu gives marriage, Mars does not deny. Yes, Saturn is in XII.\, but Saturn also owns V and it is in the constellation of Venus owner and occupant of II. So Saturn is not an absolute obstruction. > > > "What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me?"> A horary number is specific for the particular query. So we may over look planetary positions for those which are not related with the houses of marriage. Mercury and Sun are not concerned with marriage. Mars as I already mentioned, is in the star of Rahu so it should not be harmful.> > With regards.Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> @gro ups.com> Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:43:01 PM> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > > Dear Mr Rath> The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12. Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage.> The 7th sub ra rep. sat l/o 6 in 12. Therefore the reference to subs of 6 12> What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me? > Regards> sujata> > --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > Luther Rath rathluther >> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> @gro ups.com> Friday, 31 October, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > Dear Sujataji,> I have analsed your horary char errected for 115 at Chandigarh. The analyis is as follows. Since it is horary one needs to study VII house only whether it is 1st or 3rd marriage. Kindly give your comments.> > > Is marriage promised in future for fulfillment of desire?> XI cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is lord of VII. So it promises marriage.. Jupiter is in the constellation of Venus, the governor of Marriage. This is second favorable sign. Venus owns and occupies II. This is third point that supports. Venus also governs IX; this indicates agreement from the other party.> ". 7th sub rah in 5, signifying 5 11 through star lord, moon." Signification of V and XI by the VII sub lord is favorable for marriage. V and XI also indicates mutual inclination towards each other.> "But one must look at the cuspal sub lords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which are fruitful for marriage." I do not understand this statement.> Marriage may take place during Kethu bhukti not in Mercury bhukti.> Now you are running Rahu mahadasa and Mercury bhukti according to horary.> > With due regards.> Dr. Luther Rath> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:49:44 PM> RE: Re: 3rd marriage> > > How to know if the 3rd marriage is promised to a native?> > If we go by 11th sub, it makes no sense as because it is identical with> 1st marriage (i.e 11th sub signifying 2-family,7-legal bondage> 11-success)> > Regards> > Suprakash > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@gro ups..com] On> Behalf Of vsnm_vdl> Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:55 PM> @gro ups.com> Re: 3rd marriage> > --- In @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Astrologers> > I am 53yrs old.I had my 1st marriage with an IPS officer on 13-4-79,> which lasted for a few days as I wanted to marry someone else and I> refused to live with this man.> > But the parson I wanted to marry proposed to me after I had got> engaged to another person, so I refused to marry him as ifelt that I> couldn't let down my parents.> > I got married on 26-6-81 to another IPS officer. He was shot dead on> 19-8-88.> > My children would be employed in another couple of years and I would> be living alone which seems rather difficult.> > I was wondering if a third marriage was possible.> > Current dasa is mer mer,which is in 6th in sun l/o 9 in 5,and own> sub, l/o 8 10.> > As sun is 3rd grade significator of 6 7 11, the marriage seems> possible.> > As 2nd husband is seen from the 2nd house, 3rd can be seen from the> 9th as its 8th to 2nd, thouugh KPs rule for multi-marriages is also> fulfilled.> > I made a horary at chandigarh on 11-10-08 at 9-23pm for 115. The> lagna sub jup signifies 2 9 7 4. 7th sub ra in 5, signifying 5 11> through star lord, moon, and 2 5 6 12 9 through sat. But one must> look at the cuspal sublords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which> are fruitful for marriage.> > The lagna has l/o 8 10 12 in lagna. Maybe I should drop the whole> idea and look for just friends to spend time with.> > I have joined a gruop of people dedicated to bringing spritualism to> the world. I will be initiated into this on 19-10-08. Its a very> powerful Japanese tecqnique. I am sure I will find fulfilment in it as> I have heard and seen a lot of miracles in it by way of healing of> epilepsy cancer asthma etc> > Regards > > Sujata> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger. / invite/> >> Respected Sujatha Madam Garu,> In my opinion for (1) first marriage we have to consider the 7th > house, (2) for second marriage 9th house, and (3) for third marriage > 11th house should be considered. > with best regards> VSN.Murthy> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Dear Sujataji As stated by Sh. Rath current dasa lord mrrc. will not allow marriage. specially so because it,s sublord is also merc. showing 6 10.However there may be some activity in this directon in merc-ketu-sun/merc-ven-sun.It may not materialise though. It may be interesting to look at the natal chart from traditional angle.Lord of 6th is in 7th very near the ascendant degree.This as per Prashar shows premature death of spouse. I have similar placement and lost my wife in 18th year after marriage. Further lord of 4th(homely ' sukh') is in 12th.In navamsa asc. lord is with rahu .Both jup. and ven. are badly placed.So it may not be worth trying. Regards and best of luck A K Sehgal ..--- On Wed, 5/11/08, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: sujata das <sujatadash1Re: Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 1:32 PM Dear TW Thanks for clarification. No wonder sat trasitting ke star had resulted in the tragic death of husband Regards Sujata--- On Tue, 4/11/08, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: tw853 <tw853 > Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa@gro ups.comTuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:25 PM "Ketu acts as agent for Me (KPAstro 3.0)" means "Ketu would give whatever Me has to give" but not "Me is to give what Ke has to give".@gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .....> wrote:>> Dear Mr Rath> Ke, agent of mer is in 7..The 2nd marriage, on 26-6-81 was celeberated on mer star day.Considering the dasa signification, maybe its not worth the effort.> Regards> sujata> > --- On Tue, 4/11/08, tw853 <tw853.> wrote:> > tw853 <tw853> Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:30 AM> > > > > > > Natal Analysis> > 1. 5/5/1955, 21-37 PM IST, Delhi, 28N41, 77E12, NKPA 23-8-36, Asc Sc 26-04-19, Ra Dasa bal 17Y-0M-9D> > 2. Whether taking 9CSL Mo or 11CSL Ra for 3rd marrige, it is promised.> > 3. But running Dasa Me till 15 May 2024 is not capable of giving marriage as Me does not signify 2,7,11 and in contrary signifies negative 6,10 and disappointment 10.> > Me(6, 8-10) is in the star of (5, 9) and in own sub Me(6, 8-10).> > Horary Analysis> > 4. No 115/249, 11/10/2008, 21-23 PM IST, Chandigarh, 30N42, 76E48, NKPA 23-53-22, Asc Vi 13-53-20, Ra Dasa Bal 8Y-2M-4D (KPAstro 3.0)> > 5. By 1 & 11CSL Ju, 7CSL Ra, 3rd marriage is promised.> > 6. But in current running Ra Dasa till 17 Dec 2016, legal marriage (7) is not found despite the possiblity of long term friendship (5,11). > > Ra(5) is aspected by Ma(1, 3-8) and in the star of Mo(5, 11); Ra's signlord is Sa(12, 5-,6); Ra is inthe sub of Ve(2, 2-9).> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Sujataji,> > "The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12". No doubt, Rahu represents Saturn besides Moon. A node is to give results of its constellation lord predominantly that that of sign lord. So Rahu's representation for Saturn shall be weaker. Secondly, Rahu is in the sub of Venus. Venus is not a significator of V, VI or XII so these houses will not be significant. But Since Venus owns II and XI and occupies II; Rahu shall give result of these houses. So one need not bother regarding Rahu representing Saturn.> >  > > "Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage." > > Yes, Mars aspects Rahu (4th aspect). So you may expect some hindrance, no doubt. But please note that Mars occupies constellation of Rahu the dasa lord. So Mars has to support Rahu. Therefore, if Rahu gives marriage, Mars does not deny. Yes, Saturn is in XII.\, but Saturn also owns V and it is in the constellation of Venus owner and occupant of II. So Saturn is not an absolute obstruction. > > > > > > "What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me?"> > A horary number is specific for the particular query. So we may over look planetary positions for those which are not related with the houses of marriage. Mercury and Sun are not concerned with marriage. Mars as I already mentioned, is in the star of Rahu so it should not be harmful...> >  > > With regards.Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:43:01 PM> > Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > > > > > Dear Mr Rath> > The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12. Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage.> > The 7th sub ra rep. sat l/o 6 in 12... Therefore the reference to subs of 6 12> > What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me? > > Regards> > sujata> > > > --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 31 October, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > > > > Dear Sujataji,> > I have analsed your horary char errected for 115 at Chandigarh. The analyis is as follows. Since it is horary one needs to study VII house only whether it is 1st or 3rd marriage. Kindly give your comments.> > > > > > Is marriage promised in future for fulfillment of desire?> >            XI cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is lord of VII. So it promises marriage.. Jupiter is in the constellation of Venus, the governor of Marriage. This is second favorable sign. Venus owns and occupies II. This is third point that supports. Venus also governs IX; this indicates agreement from the other party.> > ". 7th sub rah in 5, signifying 5 11 through star lord, moon." Signification of V and XI by the VII sub lord is favorable for marriage. V and XI also indicates mutual inclination towards each other.> > "But one must look at the cuspal sub lords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which are fruitful for marriage." I do not understand this statement.> > Marriage may take place during Kethu bhukti not in Mercury bhukti.> > Now you are running Rahu mahadasa and Mercury bhukti according to horary.> >  > > With due regards.> > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:49:44 PM> > RE: Re: 3rd marriage> > > > > > How to know if the 3rd marriage is promised to a native?> > > > If we go by 11th sub, it makes no sense as because it is identical with> > 1st marriage (i.e 11th sub signifying 2-family,7-legal bondage> > 11-success)> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@gro ups..com] On> > Behalf Of vsnm_vdl> > Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:55 PM> > @gro ups.com> > Re: 3rd marriage> > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Astrologers> > > I am 53yrs old.I had my 1st marriage with an IPS officer on 13-4-79,> > which lasted for a few days as I wanted to marry someone else and I> > refused to live with this man.> > > But the parson I wanted to marry proposed to me after I had got> > engaged to another person, so I refused to marry him as ifelt that I> > couldn't let down my parents.> > > I got married on 26-6-81 to another IPS officer. He was shot dead on> > 19-8-88.> > > My children would be employed in another couple of years and I would> > be living alone which seems rather difficult.> > > I was wondering if a third marriage was possible.> > > Current dasa is mer mer,which is in 6th in sun l/o 9 in 5,and own> > sub, l/o 8 10...> > > As sun is 3rd grade significator of 6 7 11, the marriage seems> > possible.> > > As 2nd husband is seen from the 2nd house, 3rd can be seen from the> > 9th as its 8th to 2nd, thouugh KPs rule for multi-marriages is also> > fulfilled.> > > I made a horary at chandigarh on 11-10-08 at 9-23pm for 115. The> > lagna sub jup signifies 2 9 7 4. 7th sub ra in 5, signifying 5 11> > through star lord, moon, and 2 5 6 12 9 through sat. But one must> > look at the cuspal sublords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which> > are fruitful for marriage.> > > The lagna has l/o 8 10 12 in lagna. Maybe I should drop the whole> > idea and look for just friends to spend time with.> > > I have joined a gruop of people dedicated to bringing spritualism to> > the world. I will be initiated into this on 19-10-08. Its a very> > powerful Japanese tecqnique. I am sure I will find fulfilment in it as> > I have heard and seen a lot of miracles in it by way of healing of> > epilepsy cancer asthma etc> > > Regards > > > Sujata> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > http://messenger. / invite/> > >> > Respected Sujatha Madam Garu,> > In my opinion for (1) first marriage we have to consider the 7th > > house, (2) for second marriage 9th house, and (3) for third marriage > > 11th house should be considered. > > with best regards> > VSN.Murthy> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Respected sujata das, I think you are not read attached file 13kb matter in this, my guru "chengai kanan" predicton is there, go through it,it is your life time prediction.Don"t waste your time to argue I am an new user i don"t know how to send mail to all.This is my second mail if it is wrong please call me. surayndharan--- On Wed, 11/5/08, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: sujata das <sujatadash1Re: Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 4:33 PM Dear SurayUr message was in encoded language so I coudn't know what u wanted to convey.RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 5/11/08, surendhran Suray <suray_kp > wrote: surendhran Suray <suray_kp >Re: Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa@gro ups.comWednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:55 PM Dear KP followers, This article attach files is my guru Swamy Krishnananda@ CHENGAIKANAN' S predition He was 75 Years old personalty expert Kp Steller Astroger and divine spritual Healer.His way of predtion is wonderfull. Please saw the attached fill. ThanksRegarding R.Surayndharan 91+9843623955.--- On Tue, 11/4/08, tw853 <tw853 (AT) (DOT) . com> wrote: tw853 <tw853 > Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa@gro ups.comTuesday, November 4, 2008, 4:00 AM Natal Analysis1. 5/5/1955, 21-37 PM IST, Delhi, 28N41, 77E12, NKPA 23-8-36, Asc Sc 26-04-19, Ra Dasa bal 17Y-0M-9D2. Whether taking 9CSL Mo or 11CSL Ra for 3rd marrige, it is promised.3. But running Dasa Me till 15 May 2024 is not capable of giving marriage as Me does not signify 2,7,11 and in contrary signifies negative 6,10 and disappointment 10.Me(6, 8-10) is in the star of (5, 9) and in own sub Me(6, 8-10).Horary Analysis4. No 115/249, 11/10/2008, 21-23 PM IST, Chandigarh, 30N42, 76E48, NKPA 23-53-22, Asc Vi 13-53-20, Ra Dasa Bal 8Y-2M-4D (KPAstro 3.0)5. By 1 & 11CSL Ju, 7CSL Ra, 3rd marriage is promised.6. But in current running Ra Dasa till 17 Dec 2016, legal marriage (7) is not found despite the possiblity of long term friendship (5,11). Ra(5) is aspected by Ma(1, 3-8) and in the star of Mo(5, 11); Ra's signlord is Sa(12, 5-,6); Ra is inthe sub of Ve(2, 2-9).@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sujataji,> "The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12". No doubt, Rahu represents Saturn besides Moon. A node is to give results of its constellation lord predominantly that that of sign lord. So Rahu's representation for Saturn shall be weaker. Secondly, Rahu is in the sub of Venus. Venus is not a significator of V, VI or XII so these houses will not be significant. But Since Venus owns II and XI and occupies II; Rahu shall give result of these houses. So one need not bother regarding Rahu representing Saturn.> > "Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage." > Yes, Mars aspects Rahu (4th aspect). So you may expect some hindrance, no doubt. But please note that Mars occupies constellation of Rahu the dasa lord. So Mars has to support Rahu. Therefore, if Rahu gives marriage, Mars does not deny. Yes, Saturn is in XII.\, but Saturn also owns V and it is in the constellation of Venus owner and occupant of II. So Saturn is not an absolute obstruction. > > > "What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me?"> A horary number is specific for the particular query. So we may over look planetary positions for those which are not related with the houses of marriage. Mercury and Sun are not concerned with marriage. Mars as I already mentioned, is in the star of Rahu so it should not be harmful.> > With regards.Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> @gro ups.com> Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:43:01 PM> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > > Dear Mr Rath> The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12. Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2.. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage.> The 7th sub ra rep. sat l/o 6 in 12. Therefore the reference to subs of 6 12> What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me? > Regards> sujata> > --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther (AT) (DOT) . com> wrote:> > Luther Rath rathluther >> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> @gro ups.com> Friday, 31 October, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > Dear Sujataji,> I have analsed your horary char errected for 115 at Chandigarh. The analyis is as follows. Since it is horary one needs to study VII house only whether it is 1st or 3rd marriage. Kindly give your comments.> > > Is marriage promised in future for fulfillment of desire?> XI cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is lord of VII. So it promises marriage.. Jupiter is in the constellation of Venus, the governor of Marriage. This is second favorable sign. Venus owns and occupies II. This is third point that supports. Venus also governs IX; this indicates agreement from the other party.> ". 7th sub rah in 5, signifying 5 11 through star lord, moon." Signification of V and XI by the VII sub lord is favorable for marriage. V and XI also indicates mutual inclination towards each other.> "But one must look at the cuspal sub lords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which are fruitful for marriage." I do not understand this statement.> Marriage may take place during Kethu bhukti not in Mercury bhukti.> Now you are running Rahu mahadasa and Mercury bhukti according to horary.> > With due regards.> Dr. Luther Rath> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:49:44 PM> RE: Re: 3rd marriage> > > How to know if the 3rd marriage is promised to a native?> > If we go by 11th sub, it makes no sense as because it is identical with> 1st marriage (i.e 11th sub signifying 2-family,7-legal bondage> 11-success)> > Regards> > Suprakash > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@gro ups..com] On> Behalf Of vsnm_vdl> Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:55 PM> @gro ups.com> Re: 3rd marriage> > --- In @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Astrologers> > I am 53yrs old.I had my 1st marriage with an IPS officer on 13-4-79,> which lasted for a few days as I wanted to marry someone else and I> refused to live with this man.> > But the parson I wanted to marry proposed to me after I had got> engaged to another person, so I refused to marry him as ifelt that I> couldn't let down my parents.> > I got married on 26-6-81 to another IPS officer. He was shot dead on> 19-8-88.> > My children would be employed in another couple of years and I would> be living alone which seems rather difficult.> > I was wondering if a third marriage was possible.> > Current dasa is mer mer,which is in 6th in sun l/o 9 in 5,and own> sub, l/o 8 10.> > As sun is 3rd grade significator of 6 7 11, the marriage seems> possible.> > As 2nd husband is seen from the 2nd house, 3rd can be seen from the> 9th as its 8th to 2nd, thouugh KPs rule for multi-marriages is also> fulfilled.> > I made a horary at chandigarh on 11-10-08 at 9-23pm for 115. The> lagna sub jup signifies 2 9 7 4. 7th sub ra in 5, signifying 5 11> through star lord, moon, and 2 5 6 12 9 through sat. But one must> look at the cuspal sublords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which> are fruitful for marriage.> > The lagna has l/o 8 10 12 in lagna. Maybe I should drop the whole> idea and look for just friends to spend time with.> > I have joined a gruop of people dedicated to bringing spritualism to> the world. I will be initiated into this on 19-10-08. Its a very> powerful Japanese tecqnique. I am sure I will find fulfilment in it as> I have heard and seen a lot of miracles in it by way of healing of> epilepsy cancer asthma etc> > Regards > > Sujata> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger. / invite/> >> Respected Sujatha Madam Garu,> In my opinion for (1) first marriage we have to consider the 7th > house, (2) for second marriage 9th house, and (3) for third marriage > 11th house should be considered. > with best regards> VSN.Murthy> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Dear TW Ji, Thanks for the response.I have said that it is there in one of my 50- 60 books in KP Astrology. And I don't remember exactly which one. I will take some time for me to get it from among all those books. It is from this article of his that I got the first taste of SSS lords too. I have done the Tamil translation of the same, which I have in my hand. But, I don't remember which of my books I picked it from.For your sake, I would like to search for it, if only you are ready to accept my master's view, if it is shown to you. Otherwise, it will be a waste of time for me. Ideas are simply ideas, be it Dr.KAR's or KSK's. One can take it or just leave it.I wish to end this topic on my part as I feel it may not be accepted. Let the Nodes do their part as they want.With regards,MKtw853 <tw853 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:46:09 AM Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan ji, I've clearly mentioned to come up with the exact reference otherwise it's only here say one's idea, not Dr. Kar's at all. Thanks and regards, tw @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <mk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > Dear TW Ji, > I respect your concern as said by you. > My reference is not from the KP Readers. > In fact, no ideas of Dr.Kar's are found in Readers.. My intention is not to have his ideas credited by all. > (Sorry, truly I don't remember the book title. But I can say that the article did not contain the author's Name and address. Instead it ended like this: The Horary chart was cast in Bolani, Orissa. We all know who was from this place.) > I just felt like mentioning that different people have different ideas. > Following one's idea, it is our success or failure that counts ultimately. Am I right, my friend? > With regards, > MK > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > tw853 <tw853 > @gro ups.com > Saturday, November 8, 2008 8:33:48 AM > Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa > > > Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan, > > 1. It is the KP rule, not my experience. The main reason of "only one way effect" is that the Node is not a planet, just a mathematical point without being able to throw aspect on other planets as per KP and KP followers, except two in the rare cases. > > 2. Dr. K.R. Kar mentions the order of priority, conj planet (s), depositor, aspt planet(s) and lastly the starlord. (K.P. & Astrlogy Year Book, 2004, p 58) Since he is a true follower of basic principles, there is no reason for him to say so as you mentioned. If you've the reference, pl come up with it otherwiswe it is not creditable. > > 3. If anything is different from the points mentioned below, pl come up with the KP reference. I've no comment on here say KP or one's own way KP and my cocern is the real KP with proof/reference as per the KP Readers. > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > > > A NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY.doc > A STUDY NOTE ON FOUR STEP THEORY > > > II.3.2. Conjunction of Planets > > 13. If a planet is conjoined with another planet within > 3d:20m orb, the planet becomes a primary significator of another planet, only > if the original planet itself is a primary significator (as per the rules in the > point 5). These two planets (excluding Rahu/Ketu) in conjunction will offer the > results to each other. However, in the case of `Ra/Ke conj another planet', `only' > Rahu/Ketu offers the results of the conjoined > planet as an agent of this planet but the conjoined planet cannot offer the > results of Rahu/Ketu. (R 1, pages 27-28, 41-42, 51-53, R2-Part 4 & 5; Msg > #13882, #14140) > > 14. In the example chart 1, in the case of `Su conj Me', Sun > gives the results of Mercury when Sun becomes a primary significator by being > the star-lord of Venus in the step 2. On the other side, Mercury, having no > planet in its star, offers the results of Sun in any step of 4 steps. However, > in the case of `Ra conj Ju', `only' Rahu offers the results of Jupiter as an > agent of Jupiter since Rahu is a primary significator by being in its own star. > Here a caution is that Jupiter cannot give the results of Rahu, like Jupiter > giving the results of Ketu in the case of `Ke conj Ju' in the example of the R > 2-Part 4. Similarly Jupiter, which is the sign-lord of Rahu, cannot offer the > results of Ra(2,8) in the first 2 steps like being mentioned to do so in > Msg#14867, even though Rahu is an agent of Jupiter. Rahu/Ketu will give whatever the planet is to > give when it is an agent of this planet but the planet can not give the results > of RahuKetu. It is an agent of the planets conjoined and aspecting and the > sign-lord but it does not act as an agent of its star-lord. > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <mk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > Attention: > > Shri.TW's note under this message: > > "Ketuacts as agent for Me (KPAstro 3.0)" means "Ketu would give whatever Me has to give" but not "Me is to give what Ke has to give". > > Again, it's about the great scholar from Bolani(Orissa) - (Dr.K.R.KAR) : > > I happened to go through one of his articles, published in a KP book (Krishnamurti Publications, Chennai) (Sorry, truly I don't remember the book title.), wherein he has mentioned, with reference to the above quote: "Kethu will, in turn, deliver its results through Mercury also." > > This is just a hint by the said scholar.. May be he could see that way in his analysis and results. > > It is not absolutely necessary for us to believe it. > > If we go by Shri TW's experience, we may just ignore it. > > Everyone has got his own experience, which need to be considered before we go by it or ignore it. > > Different ideas by different people. > > With sincere respects to Shri.TW Ji, > > MK. > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ashok sehgal aks071945@ .. > > @gro ups.com > > Thursday, November 6, 2008 9:26:11 AM > > Re: Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa > > > > > > Dear Sujataji > > As stated by Sh.. Rath current dasa lord mrrc. will not allow marriage. specially so because it,s sublord is also merc. showing 6 10.However there may be some activity in this directon in merc-ketu-sun/ merc-ven- sun.It may not materialise though. > > It may be interesting to look at the natal chart from traditional angle.Lord of 6th is in 7th very near the ascendant degree.This as per Prashar shows premature death of spouse. I have similar placement and lost my wife in 18th year after marriage. > > Further lord of 4th(homely ' sukh') is in 12th.In navamsa asc. lord is with rahu .Both jup. and ven. are badly placed.So it may not be worth trying. > > Regards and best of luck > > A K Sehgal > > . > > > > --- On Wed, 5/11/08, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote: > > > > sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> > > Re: Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 1:32 PM > > > > > > Dear TW > > Thanks for clarification. No wonder sat trasitting ke star had resulted in the tragic death of husband > > Regards > > Sujata > > > > --- On Tue, 4/11/08, tw853 tw853 > wrote: > > > > tw853 tw853 > > > Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:25 PM > > > > > > "Ketu acts as agent for Me (KPAstro 3.0)" means "Ketu would give > > whatever Me has to give" but not "Me is to give what Ke has to give". > > > > @gro ups..com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ......> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr Rath > > > Ke, agent of mer is in 7..The 2nd marriage, on 26-6-81 was > > celeberated on mer star day.Considering the dasa signification, maybe > > its not worth the effort. > > > Regards > > > sujata > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/11/08, tw853 tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > tw853 tw853@ > > > Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:30 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Analysis > > > > > > 1. 5/5/1955, 21-37 PM IST, Delhi, 28N41, 77E12, NKPA 23-8-36, Asc > > Sc 26-04-19, Ra Dasa bal 17Y-0M-9D > > > > > > 2. Whether taking 9CSL Mo or 11CSL Ra for 3rd marrige, it is > > promised. > > > > > > 3. But running Dasa Me till 15 May 2024 is not capable of giving > > marriage as Me does not signify 2,7,11 and in contrary signifies > > negative 6,10 and disappointment 10. > > > > > > Me(6, 8-10) is in the star of (5, 9) and in own sub Me(6, 8-10). > > > > > > Horary Analysis > > > > > > 4. No 115/249, 11/10/2008, 21-23 PM IST, Chandigarh, 30N42, > > 76E48, NKPA 23-53-22, Asc Vi 13-53-20, Ra Dasa Bal 8Y-2M-4D (KPAstro > > 3.0) > > > > > > 5. By 1 & 11CSL Ju, 7CSL Ra, 3rd marriage is promised. > > > > > > 6. But in current running Ra Dasa till 17 Dec 2016, legal marriage > > (7) is not found despite the possiblity of long term friendship > > (5,11). > > > > > > Ra(5) is aspected by Ma(1, 3-8) and in the star of Mo(5, 11); Ra's > > signlord is Sa(12, 5-,6); Ra is inthe sub of Ve(2, 2-9). > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ..> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sujataji, > > > > "The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12". No doubt, > > Rahu represents Saturn besides Moon. A node is to give results of its > > constellation lord predominantly that that of sign lord. So Rahu's > > representation for Saturn shall be weaker. Secondly, Rahu is in the > > sub of Venus. Venus is not a significator of V, VI or XII so these > > houses will not be significant. But Since Venus owns II and XI and > > occupies II; Rahu shall give result of these houses. So one need not > > bother regarding Rahu representing Saturn. > > > >  > > > > "Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven > > in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage." > > > > Yes, Mars aspects Rahu (4th aspect). So you may expect some > > hindrance, no doubt. But please note that Mars occupies constellation > > of Rahu the dasa lord. So Mars has to support Rahu. Therefore, if > > Rahu gives marriage, Mars does not deny. Yes, Saturn is in XII.\, but > > Saturn also owns V and it is in the constellation of Venus owner and > > occupant of II. So Saturn is not an absolute obstruction. > > > > > > > > > > > > "What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me?" > > > > A horary number is specific for the particular query. So we may > > over look planetary positions for those which are not related with > > the houses of marriage. Mercury and Sun are not concerned with > > marriage. Mars as I already mentioned, is in the star of Rahu so it > > should not be harmful... > > > >  > > > > With regards.Dr. Luther Rath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > sujata das sujatadash1@ ... > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:43:01 PM > > > > Re: Re: 3rd marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Rath > > > > The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12.. Mar is asp. > > ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may > > have difficulty in deciding about marriage. > > > > The 7th sub ra rep. sat l/o 6 in 12... Therefore the reference to > > subs of 6 12 > > > > What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me? > > > > Regards > > > > sujata > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote: > > > > > > > > Luther Rath rathluther > > > > > Re: Re: 3rd marriage > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Friday, 31 October, 2008, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sujataji, > > > > I have analsed your horary char errected for 115 at Chandigarh.. > > The analyis is as follows. Since it is horary one needs to study VII > > house only whether it is 1st or 3rd marriage. Kindly give your > > comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is marriage promised in future for fulfillment of desire? > > > >            XI cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is > > lord of VII. So it promises marriage.. Jupiter is in the > > constellation of Venus, the governor of Marriage. This is second > > favorable sign. Venus owns and occupies II. This is third point that > > supports. Venus also governs IX; this indicates agreement from the > > other party. > > > > ". 7th sub rah in 5, signifying 5 11 through star lord, moon." > > Signification of V and XI by the VII sub lord is favorable for > > marriage. V and XI also indicates mutual inclination towards each > > other. > > > > "But one must look at the cuspal sub lords of 6 and 12 which are > > ven and moon which are fruitful for marriage." I do not understand > > this statement. > > > > Marriage may take place during Kethu bhukti not in Mercury bhukti. > > > > Now you are running Rahu mahadasa and Mercury bhukti according to > > horary. > > > >  > > > > With due regards. > > > > Dr. Luther Rath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:49:44 PM > > > > RE: Re: 3rd marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > How to know if the 3rd marriage is promised to a native? > > > > > > > > If we go by 11th sub, it makes no sense as because it is > > identical with > > > > 1st marriage (i.e 11th sub signifying 2-family,7-legal bondage > > > > 11-success) > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@gro > > ups..com] On > > > > Behalf Of vsnm_vdl > > > > Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:55 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Re: 3rd marriage > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers > > > > > I am 53yrs old.I had my 1st marriage with an IPS officer on 13- > > 4-79, > > > > which lasted for a few days as I wanted to marry someone else and > > I > > > > refused to live with this man. > > > > > But the parson I wanted to marry proposed to me after I had got > > > > engaged to another person, so I refused to marry him as ifelt > > that I > > > > couldn't let down my parents. > > > > > I got married on 26-6-81 to another IPS officer. He was shot > > dead on > > > > 19-8-88. > > > > > My children would be employed in another couple of years and I > > would > > > > be living alone which seems rather difficult. > > > > > I was wondering if a third marriage was possible. > > > > > Current dasa is mer mer,which is in 6th in sun l/o 9 in 5,and > > own > > > > sub, l/o 8 10... > > > > > As sun is 3rd grade significator of 6 7 11, the marriage seems > > > > possible. > > > > > As 2nd husband is seen from the 2nd house, 3rd can be seen from > > the > > > > 9th as its 8th to 2nd, thouugh KPs rule for multi-marriages is > > also > > > > fulfilled. > > > > > I made a horary at chandigarh on 11-10-08 at 9-23pm for 115. The > > > > lagna sub jup signifies 2 9 7 4. 7th sub ra in 5, signifying 5 11 > > > > through star lord, moon, and 2 5 6 12 9 through sat. But one must > > > > look at the cuspal sublords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon > > which > > > > are fruitful for marriage. > > > > > The lagna has l/o 8 10 12 in lagna. Maybe I should drop the > > whole > > > > idea and look for just friends to spend time with. > > > > > I have joined a gruop of people dedicated to bringing > > spritualism to > > > > the world. I will be initiated into this on 19-10-08. Its a very > > > > powerful Japanese tecqnique. I am sure I will find fulfilment in > > it as > > > > I have heard and seen a lot of miracles in it by way of healing of > > > > epilepsy cancer asthma etc > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sujata > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > Respected Sujatha Madam Garu, > > > > In my opinion for (1) first marriage we have to consider the 7th > > > > house, (2) for second marriage 9th house, and (3) for third > > marriage > > > > 11th house should be considered. > > > > with best regards > > > > VSN.Murthy > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Dear Ashok Whether we have to consider the planetary combination in navamsa. The Divisional charts are imaginary charts. In some Divisional charts, Rahu and Ketu are in one sign. Dhanabalan--- On Thu, 11/6/08, ashok sehgal <aks071945 wrote: ashok sehgal <aks071945Re: Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 3:56 AM Dear Sujataji As stated by Sh. Rath current dasa lord mrrc. will not allow marriage. specially so because it,s sublord is also merc. showing 6 10.However there may be some activity in this directon in merc-ketu-sun/ merc-ven- sun.It may not materialise though. It may be interesting to look at the natal chart from traditional angle.Lord of 6th is in 7th very near the ascendant degree.This as per Prashar shows premature death of spouse. I have similar placement and lost my wife in 18th year after marriage. Further lord of 4th(homely ' sukh') is in 12th.In navamsa asc. lord is with rahu .Both jup. and ven. are badly placed.So it may not be worth trying. Regards and best of luck A K Sehgal ..--- On Wed, 5/11/08, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote: sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Re: Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa@gro ups.comWednesday, 5 November, 2008, 1:32 PM Dear TW Thanks for clarification. No wonder sat trasitting ke star had resulted in the tragic death of husband Regards Sujata--- On Tue, 4/11/08, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: tw853 <tw853 > Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa@gro ups.comTuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:25 PM "Ketu acts as agent for Me (KPAstro 3.0)" means "Ketu would give whatever Me has to give" but not "Me is to give what Ke has to give".@gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ......> wrote:>> Dear Mr Rath> Ke, agent of mer is in 7..The 2nd marriage, on 26-6-81 was celeberated on mer star day.Considering the dasa signification, maybe its not worth the effort.> Regards> sujata> > --- On Tue, 4/11/08, tw853 <tw853..> wrote:> > tw853 <tw853> Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:30 AM> > > > > > > Natal Analysis> > 1. 5/5/1955, 21-37 PM IST, Delhi, 28N41, 77E12, NKPA 23-8-36, Asc Sc 26-04-19, Ra Dasa bal 17Y-0M-9D> > 2. Whether taking 9CSL Mo or 11CSL Ra for 3rd marrige, it is promised.> > 3. But running Dasa Me till 15 May 2024 is not capable of giving marriage as Me does not signify 2,7,11 and in contrary signifies negative 6,10 and disappointment 10.> > Me(6, 8-10) is in the star of (5, 9) and in own sub Me(6, 8-10).> > Horary Analysis> > 4. No 115/249, 11/10/2008, 21-23 PM IST, Chandigarh, 30N42, 76E48, NKPA 23-53-22, Asc Vi 13-53-20, Ra Dasa Bal 8Y-2M-4D (KPAstro 3.0)> > 5. By 1 & 11CSL Ju, 7CSL Ra, 3rd marriage is promised.> > 6. But in current running Ra Dasa till 17 Dec 2016, legal marriage (7) is not found despite the possiblity of long term friendship (5,11). > > Ra(5) is aspected by Ma(1, 3-8) and in the star of Mo(5, 11); Ra's signlord is Sa(12, 5-,6); Ra is inthe sub of Ve(2, 2-9).> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Sujataji,> > "The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12". No doubt, Rahu represents Saturn besides Moon. A node is to give results of its constellation lord predominantly that that of sign lord. So Rahu's representation for Saturn shall be weaker. Secondly, Rahu is in the sub of Venus. Venus is not a significator of V, VI or XII so these houses will not be significant. But Since Venus owns II and XI and occupies II; Rahu shall give result of these houses. So one need not bother regarding Rahu representing Saturn.> >  > > "Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage." > > Yes, Mars aspects Rahu (4th aspect). So you may expect some hindrance, no doubt. But please note that Mars occupies constellation of Rahu the dasa lord. So Mars has to support Rahu. Therefore, if Rahu gives marriage, Mars does not deny. Yes, Saturn is in XII.\, but Saturn also owns V and it is in the constellation of Venus owner and occupant of II. So Saturn is not an absolute obstruction. > > > > > > "What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me?"> > A horary number is specific for the particular query. So we may over look planetary positions for those which are not related with the houses of marriage. Mercury and Sun are not concerned with marriage. Mars as I already mentioned, is in the star of Rahu so it should not be harmful...> >  > > With regards.Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:43:01 PM> > Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > > > > > Dear Mr Rath> > The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12. Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage.> > The 7th sub ra rep. sat l/o 6 in 12.... Therefore the reference to subs of 6 12> > What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me? > > Regards> > sujata> > > > --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 31 October, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > > > > Dear Sujataji,> > I have analsed your horary char errected for 115 at Chandigarh. The analyis is as follows. Since it is horary one needs to study VII house only whether it is 1st or 3rd marriage. Kindly give your comments.> > > > > > Is marriage promised in future for fulfillment of desire?> >            XI cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is lord of VII. So it promises marriage.. Jupiter is in the constellation of Venus, the governor of Marriage. This is second favorable sign. Venus owns and occupies II. This is third point that supports. Venus also governs IX; this indicates agreement from the other party.> > ". 7th sub rah in 5, signifying 5 11 through star lord, moon." Signification of V and XI by the VII sub lord is favorable for marriage. V and XI also indicates mutual inclination towards each other.> > "But one must look at the cuspal sub lords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which are fruitful for marriage." I do not understand this statement.> > Marriage may take place during Kethu bhukti not in Mercury bhukti.> > Now you are running Rahu mahadasa and Mercury bhukti according to horary.> >  > > With due regards.> > Dr.. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:49:44 PM> > RE: Re: 3rd marriage> > > > > > How to know if the 3rd marriage is promised to a native?> > > > If we go by 11th sub, it makes no sense as because it is identical with> > 1st marriage (i.e 11th sub signifying 2-family,7-legal bondage> > 11-success)> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@gro ups..com] On> > Behalf Of vsnm_vdl> > Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:55 PM> > @gro ups.com> > Re: 3rd marriage> > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Astrologers> > > I am 53yrs old.I had my 1st marriage with an IPS officer on 13-4-79,> > which lasted for a few days as I wanted to marry someone else and I> > refused to live with this man.> > > But the parson I wanted to marry proposed to me after I had got> > engaged to another person, so I refused to marry him as ifelt that I> > couldn't let down my parents.> > > I got married on 26-6-81 to another IPS officer. He was shot dead on> > 19-8-88.> > > My children would be employed in another couple of years and I would> > be living alone which seems rather difficult.> > > I was wondering if a third marriage was possible.> > > Current dasa is mer mer,which is in 6th in sun l/o 9 in 5,and own> > sub, l/o 8 10....> > > As sun is 3rd grade significator of 6 7 11, the marriage seems> > possible.> > > As 2nd husband is seen from the 2nd house, 3rd can be seen from the> > 9th as its 8th to 2nd, thouugh KPs rule for multi-marriages is also> > fulfilled.> > > I made a horary at chandigarh on 11-10-08 at 9-23pm for 115. The> > lagna sub jup signifies 2 9 7 4. 7th sub ra in 5, signifying 5 11> > through star lord, moon, and 2 5 6 12 9 through sat. But one must> > look at the cuspal sublords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which> > are fruitful for marriage.> > > The lagna has l/o 8 10 12 in lagna. Maybe I should drop the whole> > idea and look for just friends to spend time with.> > > I have joined a gruop of people dedicated to bringing spritualism to> > the world. I will be initiated into this on 19-10-08. Its a very> > powerful Japanese tecqnique. I am sure I will find fulfilment in it as> > I have heard and seen a lot of miracles in it by way of healing of> > epilepsy cancer asthma etc> > > Regards > > > Sujata> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > http://messenger. / invite/> > >> > Respected Sujatha Madam Garu,> > In my opinion for (1) first marriage we have to consider the 7th > > house, (2) for second marriage 9th house, and (3) for third marriage > > 11th house should be considered. > > with best regards> > VSN.Murthy> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Dear TWjiOn 26-6-81,2nd marriage celebrated The day was merc starday. Its intrigueing as to how mer. star day gave marriage.RegardsSujata --- On Tue, 4/11/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:tw853 <tw853 Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:30 AM Natal Analysis1. 5/5/1955, 21-37 PM IST, Delhi, 28N41, 77E12, NKPA 23-8-36, Asc Sc 26-04-19, Ra Dasa bal 17Y-0M-9D2. Whether taking 9CSL Mo or 11CSL Ra for 3rd marrige, it is promised.3. But running Dasa Me till 15 May 2024 is not capable of giving marriage as Me does not signify 2,7,11 and in contrary signifies negative 6,10 and disappointment 10.Me(6, 8-10) is in the star of (5, 9) and in own sub Me(6, 8-10).Horary Analysis4. No 115/249, 11/10/2008, 21-23 PM IST, Chandigarh, 30N42, 76E48, NKPA 23-53-22, Asc Vi 13-53-20, Ra Dasa Bal 8Y-2M-4D (KPAstro 3.0)5. By 1 & 11CSL Ju, 7CSL Ra, 3rd marriage is promised.6. But in current running Ra Dasa till 17 Dec 2016, legal marriage (7) is not found despite the possiblity of long term friendship (5,11). Ra(5) is aspected by Ma(1, 3-8) and in the star of Mo(5, 11); Ra's signlord is Sa(12, 5-,6); Ra is inthe sub of Ve(2, 2-9).@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sujataji,> "The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12". No doubt, Rahu represents Saturn besides Moon. A node is to give results of its constellation lord predominantly that that of sign lord. So Rahu's representation for Saturn shall be weaker. Secondly, Rahu is in the sub of Venus. Venus is not a significator of V, VI or XII so these houses will not be significant. But Since Venus owns II and XI and occupies II; Rahu shall give result of these houses. So one need not bother regarding Rahu representing Saturn.> > "Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage." > Yes, Mars aspects Rahu (4th aspect). So you may expect some hindrance, no doubt. But please note that Mars occupies constellation of Rahu the dasa lord. So Mars has to support Rahu. Therefore, if Rahu gives marriage, Mars does not deny. Yes, Saturn is in XII.\, but Saturn also owns V and it is in the constellation of Venus owner and occupant of II. So Saturn is not an absolute obstruction. > > > "What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me?"> A horary number is specific for the particular query. So we may over look planetary positions for those which are not related with the houses of marriage. Mercury and Sun are not concerned with marriage. Mars as I already mentioned, is in the star of Rahu so it should not be harmful.> > With regards.Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> @gro ups.com> Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:43:01 PM> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > > Dear Mr Rath> The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12. Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage.> The 7th sub ra rep. sat l/o 6 in 12. Therefore the reference to subs of 6 12> What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me? > Regards> sujata> > --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > Luther Rath rathluther >> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> @gro ups.com> Friday, 31 October, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > Dear Sujataji,> I have analsed your horary char errected for 115 at Chandigarh. The analyis is as follows. Since it is horary one needs to study VII house only whether it is 1st or 3rd marriage. Kindly give your comments.> > > Is marriage promised in future for fulfillment of desire?> XI cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is lord of VII. So it promises marriage.. Jupiter is in the constellation of Venus, the governor of Marriage. This is second favorable sign. Venus owns and occupies II. This is third point that supports. Venus also governs IX; this indicates agreement from the other party.> ". 7th sub rah in 5, signifying 5 11 through star lord, moon." Signification of V and XI by the VII sub lord is favorable for marriage. V and XI also indicates mutual inclination towards each other.> "But one must look at the cuspal sub lords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which are fruitful for marriage." I do not understand this statement.> Marriage may take place during Kethu bhukti not in Mercury bhukti.> Now you are running Rahu mahadasa and Mercury bhukti according to horary.> > With due regards.> Dr. Luther Rath> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:49:44 PM> RE: Re: 3rd marriage> > > How to know if the 3rd marriage is promised to a native?> > If we go by 11th sub, it makes no sense as because it is identical with> 1st marriage (i.e 11th sub signifying 2-family,7-legal bondage> 11-success)> > Regards> > Suprakash > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@gro ups..com] On> Behalf Of vsnm_vdl> Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:55 PM> @gro ups.com> Re: 3rd marriage> > --- In @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Astrologers> > I am 53yrs old.I had my 1st marriage with an IPS officer on 13-4-79,> which lasted for a few days as I wanted to marry someone else and I> refused to live with this man.> > But the parson I wanted to marry proposed to me after I had got> engaged to another person, so I refused to marry him as ifelt that I> couldn't let down my parents.> > I got married on 26-6-81 to another IPS officer. He was shot dead on> 19-8-88.> > My children would be employed in another couple of years and I would> be living alone which seems rather difficult.> > I was wondering if a third marriage was possible.> > Current dasa is mer mer,which is in 6th in sun l/o 9 in 5,and own> sub, l/o 8 10.> > As sun is 3rd grade significator of 6 7 11, the marriage seems> possible.> > As 2nd husband is seen from the 2nd house, 3rd can be seen from the> 9th as its 8th to 2nd, thouugh KPs rule for multi-marriages is also> fulfilled.> > I made a horary at chandigarh on 11-10-08 at 9-23pm for 115. The> lagna sub jup signifies 2 9 7 4. 7th sub ra in 5, signifying 5 11> through star lord, moon, and 2 5 6 12 9 through sat. But one must> look at the cuspal sublords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which> are fruitful for marriage.> > The lagna has l/o 8 10 12 in lagna. Maybe I should drop the whole> idea and look for just friends to spend time with.> > I have joined a gruop of people dedicated to bringing spritualism to> the world. I will be initiated into this on 19-10-08. Its a very> powerful Japanese tecqnique. I am sure I will find fulfilment in it as> I have heard and seen a lot of miracles in it by way of healing of> epilepsy cancer asthma etc> > Regards > > Sujata> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger. / invite/> >> Respected Sujatha Madam Garu,> In my opinion for (1) first marriage we have to consider the 7th > house, (2) for second marriage 9th house, and (3) for third marriage > 11th house should be considered. > with best regards> VSN.Murthy> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 Dear Madams and Sirs, Maercury has got some thing to do with marriage of Sujataji. Her first marriage also was during Mercury bhukti. I would rather request her to verify if the data provided by her is not incorrect. With due regards to all. Dr. Luther Rath sujata das <sujatadash1 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:03:51 PMRe: Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa Dear TWjiOn 26-6-81,2nd marriage celebrated The day was merc starday. Its intrigueing as to how mer. star day gave marriage.RegardsSujata --- On Tue, 4/11/08, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: tw853 <tw853 > Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa@gro ups.comTuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:30 AM Natal Analysis1. 5/5/1955, 21-37 PM IST, Delhi, 28N41, 77E12, NKPA 23-8-36, Asc Sc 26-04-19, Ra Dasa bal 17Y-0M-9D2. Whether taking 9CSL Mo or 11CSL Ra for 3rd marrige, it is promised.3. But running Dasa Me till 15 May 2024 is not capable of giving marriage as Me does not signify 2,7,11 and in contrary signifies negative 6,10 and disappointment 10.Me(6, 8-10) is in the star of (5, 9) and in own sub Me(6, 8-10).Horary Analysis4. No 115/249, 11/10/2008, 21-23 PM IST, Chandigarh, 30N42, 76E48, NKPA 23-53-22, Asc Vi 13-53-20, Ra Dasa Bal 8Y-2M-4D (KPAstro 3.0)5. By 1 & 11CSL Ju, 7CSL Ra, 3rd marriage is promised.6. But in current running Ra Dasa till 17 Dec 2016, legal marriage (7) is not found despite the possiblity of long term friendship (5,11). Ra(5) is aspected by Ma(1, 3-8) and in the star of Mo(5, 11); Ra's signlord is Sa(12, 5-,6); Ra is inthe sub of Ve(2, 2-9).@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sujataji,> "The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12". No doubt, Rahu represents Saturn besides Moon. A node is to give results of its constellation lord predominantly that that of sign lord. So Rahu's representation for Saturn shall be weaker. Secondly, Rahu is in the sub of Venus. Venus is not a significator of V, VI or XII so these houses will not be significant. But Since Venus owns II and XI and occupies II; Rahu shall give result of these houses. So one need not bother regarding Rahu representing Saturn.> > "Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage." > Yes, Mars aspects Rahu (4th aspect). So you may expect some hindrance, no doubt. But please note that Mars occupies constellation of Rahu the dasa lord. So Mars has to support Rahu. Therefore, if Rahu gives marriage, Mars does not deny. Yes, Saturn is in XII.\, but Saturn also owns V and it is in the constellation of Venus owner and occupant of II. So Saturn is not an absolute obstruction. > > > "What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me?"> A horary number is specific for the particular query. So we may over look planetary positions for those which are not related with the houses of marriage. Mercury and Sun are not concerned with marriage. Mars as I already mentioned, is in the star of Rahu so it should not be harmful.> > With regards.Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> @gro ups.com> Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:43:01 PM> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > > Dear Mr Rath> The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12. Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage.> The 7th sub ra rep. sat l/o 6 in 12. Therefore the reference to subs of 6 12> What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me? > Regards> sujata> > --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > Luther Rath rathluther >> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> @gro ups.com> Friday, 31 October, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > Dear Sujataji,> I have analsed your horary char errected for 115 at Chandigarh. The analyis is as follows. Since it is horary one needs to study VII house only whether it is 1st or 3rd marriage. Kindly give your comments.> > > Is marriage promised in future for fulfillment of desire?> XI cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is lord of VII. So it promises marriage.. Jupiter is in the constellation of Venus, the governor of Marriage. This is second favorable sign. Venus owns and occupies II. This is third point that supports. Venus also governs IX; this indicates agreement from the other party.> ". 7th sub rah in 5, signifying 5 11 through star lord, moon." Signification of V and XI by the VII sub lord is favorable for marriage. V and XI also indicates mutual inclination towards each other.> "But one must look at the cuspal sub lords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which are fruitful for marriage." I do not understand this statement.> Marriage may take place during Kethu bhukti not in Mercury bhukti.> Now you are running Rahu mahadasa and Mercury bhukti according to horary.> > With due regards.> Dr. Luther Rath> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:49:44 PM> RE: Re: 3rd marriage> > > How to know if the 3rd marriage is promised to a native?> > If we go by 11th sub, it makes no sense as because it is identical with> 1st marriage (i.e 11th sub signifying 2-family,7-legal bondage> 11-success)> > Regards> > Suprakash > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@gro ups..com] On> Behalf Of vsnm_vdl> Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:55 PM> @gro ups.com> Re: 3rd marriage> > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Astrologers> > I am 53yrs old.I had my 1st marriage with an IPS officer on 13-4-79,> which lasted for a few days as I wanted to marry someone else and I> refused to live with this man.> > But the parson I wanted to marry proposed to me after I had got> engaged to another person, so I refused to marry him as ifelt that I> couldn't let down my parents.> > I got married on 26-6-81 to another IPS officer. He was shot dead on> 19-8-88.> > My children would be employed in another couple of years and I would> be living alone which seems rather difficult.> > I was wondering if a third marriage was possible.> > Current dasa is mer mer,which is in 6th in sun l/o 9 in 5,and own> sub, l/o 8 10.> > As sun is 3rd grade significator of 6 7 11, the marriage seems> possible.> > As 2nd husband is seen from the 2nd house, 3rd can be seen from the> 9th as its 8th to 2nd, thouugh KPs rule for multi-marriages is also> fulfilled.> > I made a horary at chandigarh on 11-10-08 at 9-23pm for 115. The> lagna sub jup signifies 2 9 7 4. 7th sub ra in 5, signifying 5 11> through star lord, moon, and 2 5 6 12 9 through sat. But one must> look at the cuspal sublords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which> are fruitful for marriage.> > The lagna has l/o 8 10 12 in lagna. Maybe I should drop the whole> idea and look for just friends to spend time with.> > I have joined a gruop of people dedicated to bringing spritualism to> the world. I will be initiated into this on 19-10-08. Its a very> powerful Japanese tecqnique. I am sure I will find fulfilment in it as> I have heard and seen a lot of miracles in it by way of healing of> epilepsy cancer asthma etc> > Regards > > Sujata> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger. / invite/> >> Respected Sujatha Madam Garu,> In my opinion for (1) first marriage we have to consider the 7th > house, (2) for second marriage 9th house, and (3) for third marriage > 11th house should be considered. > with best regards> VSN.Murthy> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 Dear Dr RathThe dob, pob tob are correct. Maybe mer is influenced by the cuspal sublord, sat.RegardsSujata--- On Sun, 16/11/08, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa Date: Sunday, 16 November, 2008, 9:12 AM Dear Madams and Sirs, Maercury has got some thing to do with marriage of Sujataji. Her first marriage also was during Mercury bhukti. I would rather request her to verify if the data provided by her is not incorrect. With due regards to all. Dr. Luther Rath sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups.comSaturday, November 15, 2008 1:03:51 PMRe: Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa Dear TWjiOn 26-6-81,2nd marriage celebrated The day was merc starday. Its intrigueing as to how mer. star day gave marriage.RegardsSujata --- On Tue, 4/11/08, tw853 <tw853 (AT) (DOT) . com> wrote: tw853 <tw853 > Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa@gro ups.comTuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:30 AM Natal Analysis1. 5/5/1955, 21-37 PM IST, Delhi, 28N41, 77E12, NKPA 23-8-36, Asc Sc 26-04-19, Ra Dasa bal 17Y-0M-9D2. Whether taking 9CSL Mo or 11CSL Ra for 3rd marrige, it is promised.3.. But running Dasa Me till 15 May 2024 is not capable of giving marriage as Me does not signify 2,7,11 and in contrary signifies negative 6,10 and disappointment 10.Me(6, 8-10) is in the star of (5, 9) and in own sub Me(6, 8-10).Horary Analysis4. No 115/249, 11/10/2008, 21-23 PM IST, Chandigarh, 30N42, 76E48, NKPA 23-53-22, Asc Vi 13-53-20, Ra Dasa Bal 8Y-2M-4D (KPAstro 3.0)5. By 1 & 11CSL Ju, 7CSL Ra, 3rd marriage is promised.6. But in current running Ra Dasa till 17 Dec 2016, legal marriage (7) is not found despite the possiblity of long term friendship (5,11). Ra(5) is aspected by Ma(1, 3-8) and in the star of Mo(5, 11); Ra's signlord is Sa(12, 5-,6); Ra is inthe sub of Ve(2, 2-9).@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sujataji,> "The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12". No doubt, Rahu represents Saturn besides Moon. A node is to give results of its constellation lord predominantly that that of sign lord. So Rahu's representation for Saturn shall be weaker. Secondly, Rahu is in the sub of Venus. Venus is not a significator of V, VI or XII so these houses will not be significant. But Since Venus owns II and XI and occupies II; Rahu shall give result of these houses. So one need not bother regarding Rahu representing Saturn.> > "Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage." > Yes, Mars aspects Rahu (4th aspect). So you may expect some hindrance, no doubt. But please note that Mars occupies constellation of Rahu the dasa lord. So Mars has to support Rahu. Therefore, if Rahu gives marriage, Mars does not deny. Yes, Saturn is in XII.\, but Saturn also owns V and it is in the constellation of Venus owner and occupant of II. So Saturn is not an absolute obstruction. > > > "What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me?"> A horary number is specific for the particular query. So we may over look planetary positions for those which are not related with the houses of marriage. Mercury and Sun are not concerned with marriage. Mars as I already mentioned, is in the star of Rahu so it should not be harmful.> > With regards.Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> @gro ups.com> Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:43:01 PM> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > > Dear Mr Rath> The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12. Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2.. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage.> The 7th sub ra rep. sat l/o 6 in 12. Therefore the reference to subs of 6 12> What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me? > Regards> sujata> > --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther (AT) (DOT) . com> wrote:> > Luther Rath rathluther >> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> @gro ups.com> Friday, 31 October, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > Dear Sujataji,> I have analsed your horary char errected for 115 at Chandigarh. The analyis is as follows. Since it is horary one needs to study VII house only whether it is 1st or 3rd marriage. Kindly give your comments.> > > Is marriage promised in future for fulfillment of desire?> XI cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is lord of VII. So it promises marriage.. Jupiter is in the constellation of Venus, the governor of Marriage. This is second favorable sign. Venus owns and occupies II. This is third point that supports. Venus also governs IX; this indicates agreement from the other party.> ". 7th sub rah in 5, signifying 5 11 through star lord, moon." Signification of V and XI by the VII sub lord is favorable for marriage. V and XI also indicates mutual inclination towards each other.> "But one must look at the cuspal sub lords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which are fruitful for marriage." I do not understand this statement.> Marriage may take place during Kethu bhukti not in Mercury bhukti.> Now you are running Rahu mahadasa and Mercury bhukti according to horary.> > With due regards.> Dr. Luther Rath> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:49:44 PM> RE: Re: 3rd marriage> > > How to know if the 3rd marriage is promised to a native?> > If we go by 11th sub, it makes no sense as because it is identical with> 1st marriage (i.e 11th sub signifying 2-family,7-legal bondage> 11-success)> > Regards> > Suprakash > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@gro ups..com] On> Behalf Of vsnm_vdl> Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:55 PM> @gro ups.com> Subject: Re: 3rd marriage> > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Astrologers> > I am 53yrs old.I had my 1st marriage with an IPS officer on 13-4-79,> which lasted for a few days as I wanted to marry someone else and I> refused to live with this man.> > But the parson I wanted to marry proposed to me after I had got> engaged to another person, so I refused to marry him as ifelt that I> couldn't let down my parents.> > I got married on 26-6-81 to another IPS officer. He was shot dead on> 19-8-88.> > My children would be employed in another couple of years and I would> be living alone which seems rather difficult.> > I was wondering if a third marriage was possible.> > Current dasa is mer mer,which is in 6th in sun l/o 9 in 5,and own> sub, l/o 8 10.> > As sun is 3rd grade significator of 6 7 11, the marriage seems> possible.> > As 2nd husband is seen from the 2nd house, 3rd can be seen from the> 9th as its 8th to 2nd, thouugh KPs rule for multi-marriages is also> fulfilled.> > I made a horary at chandigarh on 11-10-08 at 9-23pm for 115. The> lagna sub jup signifies 2 9 7 4. 7th sub ra in 5, signifying 5 11> through star lord, moon, and 2 5 6 12 9 through sat. But one must> look at the cuspal sublords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which> are fruitful for marriage.> > The lagna has l/o 8 10 12 in lagna. Maybe I should drop the whole> idea and look for just friends to spend time with.> > I have joined a gruop of people dedicated to bringing spritualism to> the world. I will be initiated into this on 19-10-08. Its a very> powerful Japanese tecqnique. I am sure I will find fulfilment in it as> I have heard and seen a lot of miracles in it by way of healing of> epilepsy cancer asthma etc> > Regards > > Sujata> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger. / invite/> >> Respected Sujatha Madam Garu,> In my opinion for (1) first marriage we have to consider the 7th > house, (2) for second marriage 9th house, and (3) for third marriage > 11th house should be considered. > with best regards> VSN.Murthy> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 Dear Dr. Luther Rath, Mrs. Sujata Das's saying in a message-- "The 'baraat' had come on 13-4-79 but actual ceremoney took place on 14-4-79 around 5am ra starday had commenced. "may be helpful.Regards,tw , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:>> Dear Madams and Sirs,> Maercury has got some thing to do with marriage of Sujataji. Her first marriage also was during Mercury bhukti. I would rather request her to verify if the data provided by her is not incorrect.> With due regards to all.> Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > ________________________________> sujata das sujatadash1 > Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:03:51 PM> Re: Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa> > > Dear TWji> On 26-6-81,2nd marriage celebrated The day was merc starday. Its intrigueing as to how mer. star day gave marriage.> Regards> Sujata > > --- On Tue, 4/11/08, tw853 tw853 > wrote:> > tw853 tw853 >> Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:30 AM> > > Natal Analysis> > 1. 5/5/1955, 21-37 PM IST, Delhi, 28N41, 77E12, NKPA 23-8-36, Asc Sc 26-04-19, Ra Dasa bal 17Y-0M-9D> > 2. Whether taking 9CSL Mo or 11CSL Ra for 3rd marrige, it is promised.> > 3. But running Dasa Me till 15 May 2024 is not capable of giving marriage as Me does not signify 2,7,11 and in contrary signifies negative 6,10 and disappointment 10.> > Me(6, 8-10) is in the star of (5, 9) and in own sub Me(6, 8-10).> > Horary Analysis> > 4. No 115/249, 11/10/2008, 21-23 PM IST, Chandigarh, 30N42, 76E48, NKPA 23-53-22, Asc Vi 13-53-20, Ra Dasa Bal 8Y-2M-4D (KPAstro 3.0)> > 5. By 1 & 11CSL Ju, 7CSL Ra, 3rd marriage is promised.> > 6. But in current running Ra Dasa till 17 Dec 2016, legal marriage (7) is not found despite the possiblity of long term friendship (5,11). > > Ra(5) is aspected by Ma(1, 3-8) and in the star of Mo(5, 11); Ra's signlord is Sa(12, 5-,6); Ra is inthe sub of Ve(2, 2-9).> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Sujataji,> > "The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12". No doubt, Rahu represents Saturn besides Moon. A node is to give results of its constellation lord predominantly that that of sign lord. So Rahu's representation for Saturn shall be weaker. Secondly, Rahu is in the sub of Venus. Venus is not a significator of V, VI or XII so these houses will not be significant. But Since Venus owns II and XI and occupies II; Rahu shall give result of these houses. So one need not bother regarding Rahu representing Saturn.> > > > "Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage." > > Yes, Mars aspects Rahu (4th aspect). So you may expect some hindrance, no doubt. But please note that Mars occupies constellation of Rahu the dasa lord. So Mars has to support Rahu. Therefore, if Rahu gives marriage, Mars does not deny. Yes, Saturn is in XII.\, but Saturn also owns V and it is in the constellation of Venus owner and occupant of II. So Saturn is not an absolute obstruction. > > > > > > "What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me?"> > A horary number is specific for the particular query. So we may over look planetary positions for those which are not related with the houses of marriage. Mercury and Sun are not concerned with marriage. Mars as I already mentioned, is in the star of Rahu so it should not be harmful.> > > > With regards.Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:43:01 PM> > Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > > > > > Dear Mr Rath> > The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12. Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage.> > The 7th sub ra rep. sat l/o 6 in 12. Therefore the reference to subs of 6 12> > What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me? > > Regards> > sujata> > > > --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 31 October, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > > > > Dear Sujataji,> > I have analsed your horary char errected for 115 at Chandigarh. The analyis is as follows. Since it is horary one needs to study VII house only whether it is 1st or 3rd marriage. Kindly give your comments.> > > > > > Is marriage promised in future for fulfillment of desire?> > XI cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is lord of VII. So it promises marriage.. Jupiter is in the constellation of Venus, the governor of Marriage. This is second favorable sign. Venus owns and occupies II. This is third point that supports. Venus also governs IX; this indicates agreement from the other party.> > ". 7th sub rah in 5, signifying 5 11 through star lord, moon." Signification of V and XI by the VII sub lord is favorable for marriage. V and XI also indicates mutual inclination towards each other.> > "But one must look at the cuspal sub lords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which are fruitful for marriage." I do not understand this statement.> > Marriage may take place during Kethu bhukti not in Mercury bhukti.> > Now you are running Rahu mahadasa and Mercury bhukti according to horary.> > > > With due regards.> > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:49:44 PM> > RE: Re: 3rd marriage> > > > > > How to know if the 3rd marriage is promised to a native?> > > > If we go by 11th sub, it makes no sense as because it is identical with> > 1st marriage (i.e 11th sub signifying 2-family,7-legal bondage> > 11-success)> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@gro ups..com] On> > Behalf Of vsnm_vdl> > Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:55 PM> > @gro ups.com> > Re: 3rd marriage> > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Astrologers> > > I am 53yrs old.I had my 1st marriage with an IPS officer on 13-4-79,> > which lasted for a few days as I wanted to marry someone else and I> > refused to live with this man.> > > But the parson I wanted to marry proposed to me after I had got> > engaged to another person, so I refused to marry him as ifelt that I> > couldn't let down my parents.> > > I got married on 26-6-81 to another IPS officer. He was shot dead on> > 19-8-88.> > > My children would be employed in another couple of years and I would> > be living alone which seems rather difficult.> > > I was wondering if a third marriage was possible.> > > Current dasa is mer mer,which is in 6th in sun l/o 9 in 5,and own> > sub, l/o 8 10.> > > As sun is 3rd grade significator of 6 7 11, the marriage seems> > possible.> > > As 2nd husband is seen from the 2nd house, 3rd can be seen from the> > 9th as its 8th to 2nd, thouugh KPs rule for multi-marriages is also> > fulfilled.> > > I made a horary at chandigarh on 11-10-08 at 9-23pm for 115. The> > lagna sub jup signifies 2 9 7 4. 7th sub ra in 5, signifying 5 11> > through star lord, moon, and 2 5 6 12 9 through sat. But one must> > look at the cuspal sublords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which> > are fruitful for marriage.> > > The lagna has l/o 8 10 12 in lagna. Maybe I should drop the whole> > idea and look for just friends to spend time with.> > > I have joined a gruop of people dedicated to bringing spritualism to> > the world. I will be initiated into this on 19-10-08. Its a very> > powerful Japanese tecqnique. I am sure I will find fulfilment in it as> > I have heard and seen a lot of miracles in it by way of healing of> > epilepsy cancer asthma etc> > > Regards > > > Sujata> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > http://messenger. / invite/> > >> > Respected Sujatha Madam Garu,> > In my opinion for (1) first marriage we have to consider the 7th > > house, (2) for second marriage 9th house, and (3) for third marriage > > 11th house should be considered. > > with best regards> > VSN.Murthy> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 Dear Mr RathI was born at home. My papa had gone to fetch a midwife. Within a few minutes of my birth my papa arrived.The tob noted by them was 9-20pm.Therfore I had sent it for rectification to Mr K. Ganpathy and Dr Kar with my life evnets. Both arrived at 9-37 pm.RegardsSujata--- On Sun, 16/11/08, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa Date: Sunday, 16 November, 2008, 9:12 AM Dear Madams and Sirs, Maercury has got some thing to do with marriage of Sujataji. Her first marriage also was during Mercury bhukti. I would rather request her to verify if the data provided by her is not incorrect. With due regards to all. Dr. Luther Rath sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups.comSaturday, November 15, 2008 1:03:51 PMRe: Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa Dear TWjiOn 26-6-81,2nd marriage celebrated The day was merc starday. Its intrigueing as to how mer. star day gave marriage.RegardsSujata --- On Tue, 4/11/08, tw853 <tw853 (AT) (DOT) . com> wrote: tw853 <tw853 > Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa@gro ups.comTuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:30 AM Natal Analysis1. 5/5/1955, 21-37 PM IST, Delhi, 28N41, 77E12, NKPA 23-8-36, Asc Sc 26-04-19, Ra Dasa bal 17Y-0M-9D2. Whether taking 9CSL Mo or 11CSL Ra for 3rd marrige, it is promised.3.. But running Dasa Me till 15 May 2024 is not capable of giving marriage as Me does not signify 2,7,11 and in contrary signifies negative 6,10 and disappointment 10.Me(6, 8-10) is in the star of (5, 9) and in own sub Me(6, 8-10).Horary Analysis4. No 115/249, 11/10/2008, 21-23 PM IST, Chandigarh, 30N42, 76E48, NKPA 23-53-22, Asc Vi 13-53-20, Ra Dasa Bal 8Y-2M-4D (KPAstro 3.0)5. By 1 & 11CSL Ju, 7CSL Ra, 3rd marriage is promised.6. But in current running Ra Dasa till 17 Dec 2016, legal marriage (7) is not found despite the possiblity of long term friendship (5,11). Ra(5) is aspected by Ma(1, 3-8) and in the star of Mo(5, 11); Ra's signlord is Sa(12, 5-,6); Ra is inthe sub of Ve(2, 2-9).@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sujataji,> "The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12". No doubt, Rahu represents Saturn besides Moon. A node is to give results of its constellation lord predominantly that that of sign lord. So Rahu's representation for Saturn shall be weaker. Secondly, Rahu is in the sub of Venus. Venus is not a significator of V, VI or XII so these houses will not be significant. But Since Venus owns II and XI and occupies II; Rahu shall give result of these houses. So one need not bother regarding Rahu representing Saturn.> > "Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage." > Yes, Mars aspects Rahu (4th aspect). So you may expect some hindrance, no doubt. But please note that Mars occupies constellation of Rahu the dasa lord. So Mars has to support Rahu. Therefore, if Rahu gives marriage, Mars does not deny. Yes, Saturn is in XII.\, but Saturn also owns V and it is in the constellation of Venus owner and occupant of II. So Saturn is not an absolute obstruction. > > > "What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me?"> A horary number is specific for the particular query. So we may over look planetary positions for those which are not related with the houses of marriage. Mercury and Sun are not concerned with marriage. Mars as I already mentioned, is in the star of Rahu so it should not be harmful.> > With regards.Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> @gro ups.com> Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:43:01 PM> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > > Dear Mr Rath> The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12. Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2.. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage.> The 7th sub ra rep. sat l/o 6 in 12. Therefore the reference to subs of 6 12> What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me? > Regards> sujata> > --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther (AT) (DOT) . com> wrote:> > Luther Rath rathluther >> Re: Re: 3rd marriage> @gro ups.com> Friday, 31 October, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > Dear Sujataji,> I have analsed your horary char errected for 115 at Chandigarh. The analyis is as follows. Since it is horary one needs to study VII house only whether it is 1st or 3rd marriage. Kindly give your comments.> > > Is marriage promised in future for fulfillment of desire?> XI cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is lord of VII. So it promises marriage.. Jupiter is in the constellation of Venus, the governor of Marriage. This is second favorable sign. Venus owns and occupies II. This is third point that supports. Venus also governs IX; this indicates agreement from the other party.> ". 7th sub rah in 5, signifying 5 11 through star lord, moon." Signification of V and XI by the VII sub lord is favorable for marriage. V and XI also indicates mutual inclination towards each other.> "But one must look at the cuspal sub lords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which are fruitful for marriage." I do not understand this statement.> Marriage may take place during Kethu bhukti not in Mercury bhukti.> Now you are running Rahu mahadasa and Mercury bhukti according to horary.> > With due regards.> Dr. Luther Rath> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:49:44 PM> RE: Re: 3rd marriage> > > How to know if the 3rd marriage is promised to a native?> > If we go by 11th sub, it makes no sense as because it is identical with> 1st marriage (i.e 11th sub signifying 2-family,7-legal bondage> 11-success)> > Regards> > Suprakash > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@gro ups..com] On> Behalf Of vsnm_vdl> Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:55 PM> @gro ups.com> Subject: Re: 3rd marriage> > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Astrologers> > I am 53yrs old.I had my 1st marriage with an IPS officer on 13-4-79,> which lasted for a few days as I wanted to marry someone else and I> refused to live with this man.> > But the parson I wanted to marry proposed to me after I had got> engaged to another person, so I refused to marry him as ifelt that I> couldn't let down my parents.> > I got married on 26-6-81 to another IPS officer. He was shot dead on> 19-8-88.> > My children would be employed in another couple of years and I would> be living alone which seems rather difficult.> > I was wondering if a third marriage was possible.> > Current dasa is mer mer,which is in 6th in sun l/o 9 in 5,and own> sub, l/o 8 10.> > As sun is 3rd grade significator of 6 7 11, the marriage seems> possible.> > As 2nd husband is seen from the 2nd house, 3rd can be seen from the> 9th as its 8th to 2nd, thouugh KPs rule for multi-marriages is also> fulfilled.> > I made a horary at chandigarh on 11-10-08 at 9-23pm for 115. The> lagna sub jup signifies 2 9 7 4. 7th sub ra in 5, signifying 5 11> through star lord, moon, and 2 5 6 12 9 through sat. But one must> look at the cuspal sublords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which> are fruitful for marriage.> > The lagna has l/o 8 10 12 in lagna. Maybe I should drop the whole> idea and look for just friends to spend time with.> > I have joined a gruop of people dedicated to bringing spritualism to> the world. I will be initiated into this on 19-10-08. Its a very> powerful Japanese tecqnique. I am sure I will find fulfilment in it as> I have heard and seen a lot of miracles in it by way of healing of> epilepsy cancer asthma etc> > Regards > > Sujata> > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger. / invite/> >> Respected Sujatha Madam Garu,> In my opinion for (1) first marriage we have to consider the 7th > house, (2) for second marriage 9th house, and (3) for third marriage > 11th house should be considered. > with best regards> VSN.Murthy> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Dear TWjiYou are referring yo the 1st marriage which was during mer sub period of jup. The 2nd marriage was on mer stardayRegardssujata--- On Sun, 16/11/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:tw853 <tw853 Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa Date: Sunday, 16 November, 2008, 8:18 PM Dear Dr. Luther Rath, Mrs. Sujata Das's saying in a message-- "The 'baraat' had come on 13-4-79 but actual ceremoney took place on 14-4-79 around 5am ra starday had commenced. "may be helpful.Regards,tw @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Madams and Sirs,> Maercury has got some thing to do with marriage of Sujataji. Her first marriage also was during Mercury bhukti. I would rather request her to verify if the data provided by her is not incorrect.> With due regards to all.> Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> @gro ups.com> Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:03:51 PM> Re: Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa> > > Dear TWji> On 26-6-81,2nd marriage celebrated The day was merc starday. Its intrigueing as to how mer. star day gave marriage.> Regards> Sujata > > --- On Tue, 4/11/08, tw853 tw853 > wrote:> > tw853 tw853 >> Re: 3rd marriage - - Timing is out as per Dasa> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:30 AM> > > Natal Analysis> > 1. 5/5/1955, 21-37 PM IST, Delhi, 28N41, 77E12, NKPA 23-8-36, Asc Sc 26-04-19, Ra Dasa bal 17Y-0M-9D> > 2. Whether taking 9CSL Mo or 11CSL Ra for 3rd marrige, it is promised.> > 3. But running Dasa Me till 15 May 2024 is not capable of giving marriage as Me does not signify 2,7,11 and in contrary signifies negative 6,10 and disappointment 10.> > Me(6, 8-10) is in the star of (5, 9) and in own sub Me(6, 8-10).> > Horary Analysis> > 4. No 115/249, 11/10/2008, 21-23 PM IST, Chandigarh, 30N42, 76E48, NKPA 23-53-22, Asc Vi 13-53-20, Ra Dasa Bal 8Y-2M-4D (KPAstro 3.0)> > 5. By 1 & 11CSL Ju, 7CSL Ra, 3rd marriage is promised.> > 6. But in current running Ra Dasa till 17 Dec 2016, legal marriage (7) is not found despite the possiblity of long term friendship (5,11). > > Ra(5) is aspected by Ma(1, 3-8) and in the star of Mo(5, 11); Ra's signlord is Sa(12, 5-,6); Ra is inthe sub of Ve(2, 2-9).> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Sujataji,> > "The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12". No doubt, Rahu represents Saturn besides Moon. A node is to give results of its constellation lord predominantly that that of sign lord. So Rahu's representation for Saturn shall be weaker. Secondly, Rahu is in the sub of Venus. Venus is not a significator of V, VI or XII so these houses will not be significant. But Since Venus owns II and XI and occupies II; Rahu shall give result of these houses. So one need not bother regarding Rahu representing Saturn.> > > > "Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage." > > Yes, Mars aspects Rahu (4th aspect). So you may expect some hindrance, no doubt. But please note that Mars occupies constellation of Rahu the dasa lord. So Mars has to support Rahu.. Therefore, if Rahu gives marriage, Mars does not deny. Yes, Saturn is in XII.\, but Saturn also owns V and it is in the constellation of Venus owner and occupant of II. So Saturn is not an absolute obstruction. > > > > > > "What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me?"> > A horary number is specific for the particular query. So we may over look planetary positions for those which are not related with the houses of marriage. Mercury and Sun are not concerned with marriage. Mars as I already mentioned, is in the star of Rahu so it should not be harmful.> > > > With regards.Dr.. Luther Rath.> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:43:01 PM> > Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > > > > > Dear Mr Rath> > The 7th sub Ra represents sat too, l/o 5 6 in 12. Mar is asp. ra., and mars in sub of sat in 12, though sat in ven in 2. So I may have difficulty in deciding about marriage.> > The 7th sub ra rep. sat l/o 6 in 12. Therefore the reference to subs of 6 12> > What about l/o 8 10 12 in 1. Won't it be bad for me? > > Regards> > sujata> > > > --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > Re: Re: 3rd marriage> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 31 October, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > > > > Dear Sujataji,> > I have analsed your horary char errected for 115 at Chandigarh. The analyis is as follows. Since it is horary one needs to study VII house only whether it is 1st or 3rd marriage. Kindly give your comments.> > > > > > Is marriage promised in future for fulfillment of desire?> > XI cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is lord of VII. So it promises marriage.. Jupiter is in the constellation of Venus, the governor of Marriage. This is second favorable sign. Venus owns and occupies II. This is third point that supports. Venus also governs IX; this indicates agreement from the other party.> > ". 7th sub rah in 5, signifying 5 11 through star lord, moon." Signification of V and XI by the VII sub lord is favorable for marriage. V and XI also indicates mutual inclination towards each other.> > "But one must look at the cuspal sub lords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which are fruitful for marriage." I do not understand this statement.> > Marriage may take place during Kethu bhukti not in Mercury bhukti.> > Now you are running Rahu mahadasa and Mercury bhukti according to horary.> > > > With due regards.> > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:49:44 PM> > RE: Re: 3rd marriage> > > > > > How to know if the 3rd marriage is promised to a native?> > > > If we go by 11th sub, it makes no sense as because it is identical with> > 1st marriage (i.e 11th sub signifying 2-family,7-legal bondage> > 11-success)> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@gro ups..com] On> > Behalf Of vsnm_vdl> > Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:55 PM> > @gro ups.com> > Re: 3rd marriage> > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Astrologers> > > I am 53yrs old.I had my 1st marriage with an IPS officer on 13-4-79,> > which lasted for a few days as I wanted to marry someone else and I> > refused to live with this man.> > > But the parson I wanted to marry proposed to me after I had got> > engaged to another person, so I refused to marry him as ifelt that I> > couldn't let down my parents.> > > I got married on 26-6-81 to another IPS officer. He was shot dead on> > 19-8-88.> > > My children would be employed in another couple of years and I would> > be living alone which seems rather difficult.> > > I was wondering if a third marriage was possible.> > > Current dasa is mer mer,which is in 6th in sun l/o 9 in 5,and own> > sub, l/o 8 10.> > > As sun is 3rd grade significator of 6 7 11, the marriage seems> > possible.> > > As 2nd husband is seen from the 2nd house, 3rd can be seen from the> > 9th as its 8th to 2nd, thouugh KPs rule for multi-marriages is also> > fulfilled.> > > I made a horary at chandigarh on 11-10-08 at 9-23pm for 115. The> > lagna sub jup signifies 2 9 7 4. 7th sub ra in 5, signifying 5 11> > through star lord, moon, and 2 5 6 12 9 through sat. But one must> > look at the cuspal sublords of 6 and 12 which are ven and moon which> > are fruitful for marriage.> > > The lagna has l/o 8 10 12 in lagna. Maybe I should drop the whole> > idea and look for just friends to spend time with.> > > I have joined a gruop of people dedicated to bringing spritualism to> > the world. I will be initiated into this on 19-10-08. Its a very> > powerful Japanese tecqnique. I am sure I will find fulfilment in it as> > I have heard and seen a lot of miracles in it by way of healing of> > epilepsy cancer asthma etc> > > Regards > > > Sujata> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > http://messenger. / invite/> > >> > Respected Sujatha Madam Garu,> > In my opinion for (1) first marriage we have to consider the 7th > > house, (2) for second marriage 9th house, and (3) for third marriage > > 11th house should be considered. > > with best regards> > VSN.Murthy> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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