Guest guest Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 The word for the girl used in these text is 'Rajaswala' (रजसà¥â€à¤µà¤²à¤¾ in Devnagari). Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: Dear Punit Pandey JiYou are very correct. It is called " Rajo Dharshan " . After Rajo Dharshan, She is " Madhyama " I did'nt use all these words in Sanskrit, as most of the forum members are happy with English. After reading Yr mail, I can make up my mind, the text book , which was mostly used and most popular in my country is " Muhurtha Chintahmani " . But originals are not available.Though we don't have text books, we know the theories to follow and predict. From that we can have some manure to our knowledge. As U said it is not religious, but cultural.Thanks & many regards for your guidance. Sunaparantha Punit Pandey <punitp Friday, October 31, 2008 9:23:28 PMRe: Astrology & Pubert Dear Sunaparantha ji, The topic you are talking about has been dealt under the name " rajodarshan " in vedic astrology. 'Raja' in sanskrit means blood and 'darshan' means 'to watch'. This topic comes under the Muhurta branch of astrology and we find some references here and there in some natal astrology books as well. As mentioned above, 'rajodarshan' has been dealt in Muhurta branch of astrology. There are various astrology texts like Muhurta Chintamani, Muhurta Ganapati, and Muhurta Martand etc which talk about it. 'Martand Ballabha', a commentary of 'Muhurta Martand' is a detailed commentory on this topic. Unfortunately the 'Martand Ballabha' commentary that I have is in Sankrit and I am not very good in reading Sankrit. In general all these texts mention the same thing that you posted from your local panchang. As far as my understanding goes, it has not been followed as religiously in India as you are mentioning in Sri Lanka. I don't know what is the reason. I guess it has been followed in some part of South India only. I am sure that a detailed study on this topic will equip KP astrologer with some additional information. As with the garbhadhan time, this can also be a useful time in astrological predictions. Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyWeb: http://www.PunitPan dey.com | IM: pandeypunit@ | Phone: +1-312-436-2075 (US) Phone: +91-97600 26368 (India) | Twitter: http://twitter. com/pandeypunit | FriendFeed: http://friendfeed. com/pandeypunit On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: Dear Dr. Luther Rath,Thank U.Though it is not available in any leaf of a book, at our touchable area, certainly it should be there, any where in India. Because Vedic Astrology has been born in India.Our forefathers in Sri Lanka were only the followers of Astrology, which came from India and they were not the founders. But they were skilled Pundits in Sanskrit and had used and understood all the Vedic Astrology System through hand written Palm leaves. Still some are having such books, but are hidden treasures only, as they dont give away the Sastra out of the Parampara. I think Guruji Shri KSK too had not seen such issues.However it is a surprise, why Bharath nation is not practising it at present..Good LuckSunaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther > @gro ups.comFriday, October 31, 2008 6:33:59 AM Re: Astrology & Puberty Dear Sunaparanthaji, Now I have clearly understood the issue. But I am sorry to say I do not have a bit of idea about it. In KP I have no where found any mention on the topic.I was referring to Hindu Predictive Astrology by B V Raman. Under the topic of " First Menses and it Influence " he has given some predictions in nut shell covering only 2 pages. For full information he has advised to read the book " Female Horoscopy " by Prof. B. Suryanarain Rao. I do not have any more information. You may find that book and go through it. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.com Cc: rathluther Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:07:39 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Dr. Luther Rath, Thank U very much for your response to me. These are the specifications (1) Yes, " Puberty " is the first menstrual period of a girl. The word I have quoted is misspelled, It should be read as " Madhyma " , means a girl, who attended her first menstrual, as far as my memory. (2) " the place of attended " - U can have some idea by going through the followings. (3) The urge of study this is because 99% of Sri Lankan are use to follow a prediction of a first menstrual time and place. They treat this as the second birth of a girl and believe the good or evil results forecasted by the Astrologer. Further detail given here are disclosed by the editors of a Local Panchanga Ephemeris and Almanac, and it comes by Parampara. But I have never come across anything on the subject in any Astrological Text. In Shri KSK's books, there is not a single letter on this. That's why " I urged to see whether there is any ancient text on that and see the positive results of it. According to an old local Panchang publication, a summary of article is as follow. When the Moon transit to either 1,2,4,5,7,8 or 12 of the girl's horoscope and aspected by Mars, OR if Moon occupied in one of the above Rashis, which is either Gemini, Virgo, Libra, first half of Sagittarius, or Aquarius and aspected by Mars and if the girl is in the suitable age limit to be an adult, then the first menstruation will take place. Predictions (1) As per the person, who visited to the Astrologer, If that person came from the East and asked, the girl was with a wear and tear cloth and number of blood drops are three. If from South East, the girl was with a blue clothings and number blood drops are three. and so on for the each sides. (2) As per the clothe of the girl at the first menstruation If she was in white clothe no children If in red ill health If in blue poor and widower... and so on (3) As per Number of blood drops If odd numbers of blood drops, male children. For even numbers female children and so on (4) Judging the place, where the first menstruation took place. If the first menstruation was occurred when the Moon is in the Nakshastra of Kartikai, Punarvasu, Poorvaaplguni, swathi, Moolam, Jyestha or Revathie, then place of first menstruation was out of her residence.. If in Rohini, Pushyam, Uttrapalguni, Vishaka, Pooradam or Satabhisa, then it has happened in her own residence. And so on. (5) Results as per the place If it is out of her own house, bad character. If it is a close place to water like lake or river she will have a long life. If it is in a church or temple, a miserable life. And so on. (6) Date wise Sunday - cruel. Monday- Good Character. Tuesday- Illness. Wednesday- Meritsful. Thursday- whealthy. Friday- Healthy. Saturday- Poverty And there are some other types of prediction such as : Nakshastra Pala, Thithi Pala, Lagna Pala,etc. As soon as the parents come to know that the daughter has bee attended, their first duty is to go to an Astrologer with her horoscope. Then he go through all above matters and gives prediction with an auspicious day and time for the first Bath of the girl. She will be bathed by woman belongs to a Rajaka (Dhobi) family, in absence of any male. After that she will be blessed by her parents first and then other family members and relations. Nowadays most of people used to celebrate this occasion as well as a marriage festival. As a student of KP, I usually wish to peep in to the matters pertaining to traditional habits of Astrology like this and to see whether there is any good results to follow up. That is the main reason for my mail. Thank U and best wishes Sunaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.com Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:15:59 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Sunaparanthaji, I am sorry, I am not able to open your attached document on 'Puberty'. Dr. Luther Rath Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.com Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:15:47 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Namaskar,Dear Dr. Luther Rath,Please go through the attachment for further clarification.Good LuckSuanaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.com Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:50:28 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Kalyanji, I am not very clear about the issue you have raised. Do you mean the occurrence of first menstrual period by the word " Puberty " ? In India in our state also people celebrate the occasion. But I have not heard the word " Madhyam " . It could be due to the language difference. You have put a query about " the place of attended " I am not able to understand it. Next is why is the urge to study this? Will you please be clear about the issue and make your question more specific? Thanking you... With regards.. Dr. Luther Rath. Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.com Monday, October 27, 2008 7:19:37 PMFw: Astrology & Puberty Once again I forward my message below, as no member had gone through yet.Sunaparantha ----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > @gro ups.comFriday, October 17, 2008 9:38:26 PM Astrology & Puberty Dear Respected Members,I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & Puberty " .So far I have not come across this in our KP System. In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called " Attending " of a girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many traditional activities.The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or correctness of prediction according to my experience. Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the educational purposes.(In Sanskrit is it " MADHYAM " ? Pl. explain.)Good LuckSunaparantha____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: Sir,Same thing happened to me.Sunaparantha Radha Viswanathan <denver_radha Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2008 1:07:07 AM Re: Astrology & Pubert Dear sir, When I opened the link it says, it is invalid and corrupted. msr--- On Fri, 10/31/08, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> Re: Astrology & Pubert @gro ups.comFriday, October 31, 2008, 10:52 AM || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna To download muhurta chintamani as e book following link may be useful.It has original sanskrit text and commentry in hindi. http://vedamu. org/vedas/ Jyotisa/Muhurtha %20Chintamani/ MuhurthaChintham ani.asp with best wishes OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCSrivastava AstrologerTeaching & Consultationshttp:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - Sunaparantha Kalyan @gro ups.com Friday, October 31, 2008 9:46 PM Re: Astrology & Pubert Dear Punit Pandey JiYou are very correct. It is called " Rajo Dharshan " . After Rajo Dharshan, She is " Madhyama " I did'nt use all these words in Sanskrit, as most of the forum members are happy with English. After reading Yr mail, I can make up my mind, the text book , which was mostly used and most popular in my country is " Muhurtha Chintahmani " . But originals are not available.Though we don't have text books, we know the theories to follow and predict. From that we can have some manure to our knowledge. As U said it is not religious, but cultural.Thanks & many regards for your guidance. Sunaparantha Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com Friday, October 31, 2008 9:23:28 PMRe: Astrology & Pubert Dear Sunaparantha ji, The topic you are talking about has been dealt under the name " rajodarshan " in vedic astrology. 'Raja' in sanskrit means blood and 'darshan' means 'to watch'. This topic comes under the Muhurta branch of astrology and we find some references here and there in some natal astrology books as well. As mentioned above, 'rajodarshan' has been dealt in Muhurta branch of astrology. There are various astrology texts like Muhurta Chintamani, Muhurta Ganapati, and Muhurta Martand etc which talk about it. 'Martand Ballabha', a commentary of 'Muhurta Martand' is a detailed commentory on this topic. Unfortunately the 'Martand Ballabha' commentary that I have is in Sankrit and I am not very good in reading Sankrit. In general all these texts mention the same thing that you posted from your local panchang. As far as my understanding goes, it has not been followed as religiously in India as you are mentioning in Sri Lanka. I don't know what is the reason. I guess it has been followed in some part of South India only. I am sure that a detailed study on this topic will equip KP astrologer with some additional information. As with the garbhadhan time, this can also be a useful time in astrological predictions. Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyWeb: http://www.PunitPan dey.com | IM: pandeypunit@ | Phone: +1-312-436-2075 (US) Phone: +91-97600 26368 (India) | Twitter: http://twitter. com/pandeypunit | FriendFeed: http://friendfeed. com/pandeypunit On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: Dear Dr. Luther Rath,Thank U.Though it is not available in any leaf of a book, at our touchable area, certainly it should be there, any where in India. Because Vedic Astrology has been born in India.Our forefathers in Sri Lanka were only the followers of Astrology, which came from India and they were not the founders. But they were skilled Pundits in Sanskrit and had used and understood all the Vedic Astrology System through hand written Palm leaves. Still some are having such books, but are hidden treasures only, as they dont give away the Sastra out of the Parampara. I think Guruji Shri KSK too had not seen such issues.However it is a surprise, why Bharath nation is not practising it at present..Good LuckSunaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther > @gro ups.comFriday, October 31, 2008 6:33:59 AM Re: Astrology & Puberty Dear Sunaparanthaji, Now I have clearly understood the issue. But I am sorry to say I do not have a bit of idea about it. In KP I have no where found any mention on the topic.I was referring to Hindu Predictive Astrology by B V Raman. Under the topic of " First Menses and it Influence " he has given some predictions in nut shell covering only 2 pages. For full information he has advised to read the book " Female Horoscopy " by Prof. B. Suryanarain Rao. I do not have any more information. You may find that book and go through it. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.com Cc: rathluther Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:07:39 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Dr. Luther Rath, Thank U very much for your response to me. These are the specifications (1) Yes, " Puberty " is the first menstrual period of a girl. The word I have quoted is misspelled, It should be read as " Madhyma " , means a girl, who attended her first menstrual, as far as my memory. (2) " the place of attended " - U can have some idea by going through the followings. (3) The urge of study this is because 99% of Sri Lankan are use to follow a prediction of a first menstrual time and place. They treat this as the second birth of a girl and believe the good or evil results forecasted by the Astrologer. Further detail given here are disclosed by the editors of a Local Panchanga Ephemeris and Almanac, and it comes by Parampara. But I have never come across anything on the subject in any Astrological Text. In Shri KSK's books, there is not a single letter on this. That's why " I urged to see whether there is any ancient text on that and see the positive results of it. According to an old local Panchang publication, a summary of article is as follow. When the Moon transit to either 1,2,4,5,7,8 or 12 of the girl's horoscope and aspected by Mars, OR if Moon occupied in one of the above Rashis, which is either Gemini, Virgo, Libra, first half of Sagittarius, or Aquarius and aspected by Mars and if the girl is in the suitable age limit to be an adult, then the first menstruation will take place. Predictions (1) As per the person, who visited to the Astrologer, If that person came from the East and asked, the girl was with a wear and tear cloth and number of blood drops are three. If from South East, the girl was with a blue clothings and number blood drops are three. and so on for the each sides. (2) As per the clothe of the girl at the first menstruation If she was in white clothe no children If in red ill health If in blue poor and widower... and so on (3) As per Number of blood drops If odd numbers of blood drops, male children. For even numbers female children and so on (4) Judging the place, where the first menstruation took place. If the first menstruation was occurred when the Moon is in the Nakshastra of Kartikai, Punarvasu, Poorvaaplguni, swathi, Moolam, Jyestha or Revathie, then place of first menstruation was out of her residence.. If in Rohini, Pushyam, Uttrapalguni, Vishaka, Pooradam or Satabhisa, then it has happened in her own residence. And so on. (5) Results as per the place If it is out of her own house, bad character. If it is a close place to water like lake or river she will have a long life. If it is in a church or temple, a miserable life. And so on. (6) Date wise Sunday - cruel. Monday- Good Character. Tuesday- Illness. Wednesday- Meritsful. Thursday- whealthy. Friday- Healthy. Saturday- Poverty And there are some other types of prediction such as : Nakshastra Pala, Thithi Pala, Lagna Pala,etc. As soon as the parents come to know that the daughter has bee attended, their first duty is to go to an Astrologer with her horoscope. Then he go through all above matters and gives prediction with an auspicious day and time for the first Bath of the girl. She will be bathed by woman belongs to a Rajaka (Dhobi) family, in absence of any male. After that she will be blessed by her parents first and then other family members and relations. Nowadays most of people used to celebrate this occasion as well as a marriage festival. As a student of KP, I usually wish to peep in to the matters pertaining to traditional habits of Astrology like this and to see whether there is any good results to follow up. That is the main reason for my mail. Thank U and best wishes Sunaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.com Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:15:59 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Sunaparanthaji, I am sorry, I am not able to open your attached document on 'Puberty'. Dr. Luther Rath Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.com Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:15:47 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Namaskar,Dear Dr. Luther Rath,Please go through the attachment for further clarification.Good LuckSuanaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.com Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:50:28 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Kalyanji, I am not very clear about the issue you have raised. Do you mean the occurrence of first menstrual period by the word " Puberty " ? In India in our state also people celebrate the occasion. But I have not heard the word " Madhyam " . It could be due to the language difference. You have put a query about " the place of attended " I am not able to understand it. Next is why is the urge to study this? Will you please be clear about the issue and make your question more specific? Thanking you... With regards.. Dr. Luther Rath. Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.com Monday, October 27, 2008 7:19:37 PMFw: Astrology & Puberty Once again I forward my message below, as no member had gone through yet.Sunaparantha ----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > @gro ups.comFriday, October 17, 2008 9:38:26 PM Astrology & Puberty Dear Respected Members,I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & Puberty " .So far I have not come across this in our KP System. In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called " Attending " of a girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many traditional activities.The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or correctness of prediction according to my experience. Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the educational purposes.(In Sanskrit is it " MADHYAM " ? Pl. explain.)Good LuckSunaparantha____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Dear Friends, You may also use 7zip. You can download it from http://www.7-zip.org/ 7zip is free and so no licensing issue. Regards, K.Babu , " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > WinZip, the popular software for unzipping files, has a known compatibility > bug which doesn't allow you to unzip file zipped using other version of the > same software. So in case of problem in opening the zip file, use another > version of WinZip or use WinRAR. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha > > wrote: > > > Sir, > > Same thing happened to me. > > Sunaparantha > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Radha Viswanathan <denver_radha > > *To:* > > *Sent:* Saturday, November 1, 2008 1:07:07 AM > > *Subject:* Re: Astrology & Pubert > > > > Dear sir, > > > > When I opened the link it says, it is invalid and corrupted. > > > > msr > > > > --- On *Fri, 10/31/08, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>* wrote: > > > > swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> > > Re: Astrology & Pubert > > @gro ups.com > > Friday, October 31, 2008, 10:52 AM > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Hare Ram Krishna > > To download muhurta chintamani as e book following link may be useful.It > > has original sanskrit text and commentry in hindi. > > http://vedamu. org/vedas/ Jyotisa/Muhurtha %20Chintamani/ MuhurthaChintham > > ani.asp<http://vedamu.org/vedas/Jyotisa/Muhurtha% 20Chintamani/MuhurthaChinthamani.asp> > > > > with best wishes > > > > OM TATSAT > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > > Swami_RCSrivastava Astrologer > > Teaching & Consultations > > http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has > > created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- ------- -- > > > > - > > ** Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > *Sent:* Friday, October 31, 2008 9:46 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Astrology & Pubert > > > > Dear Punit Pandey Ji > > You are very correct. It is called " Rajo Dharshan " . After Rajo Dharshan, > > She is " Madhyama " > > I did'nt use all these words in Sanskrit, as most of the forum members are > > happy with English. > > > > After reading Yr mail, I can make up my mind, the text book , which was > > mostly used and most popular in my country is " Muhurtha Chintahmani " . But > > originals are not available. > > Though we don't have text books, we know the theories to follow and > > predict. From that we can have some manure to our knowledge. > > As U said it is not religious, but cultural. > > > > Thanks & many regards for your guidance. > > Sunaparantha > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > *Sent:* Friday, October 31, 2008 9:23:28 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Astrology & Pubert > > > > Dear Sunaparantha ji, > > > > The topic you are talking about has been dealt under the name " rajodarshan " > > in vedic astrology. 'Raja' in sanskrit means blood and 'darshan' means 'to > > watch'. This topic comes under the Muhurta branch of astrology and we find > > some references here and there in some natal astrology books as well. > > > > As mentioned above, 'rajodarshan' has been dealt in Muhurta branch of > > astrology. There are various astrology texts like Muhurta Chintamani, > > Muhurta Ganapati, and Muhurta Martand etc which talk about it. 'Martand > > Ballabha', a commentary of 'Muhurta Martand' is a detailed commentory on > > this topic. Unfortunately the 'Martand Ballabha' commentary that I have is > > in Sankrit and I am not very good in reading Sankrit. In general all these > > texts mention the same thing that you posted from your local panchang. > > > > As far as my understanding goes, it has not been followed as religiously > > in India as you are mentioning in Sri Lanka. I don't know what is the > > reason. I guess it has been followed in some part of South India only. I am > > sure that a detailed study on this topic will equip KP astrologer with some > > additional information. As with the garbhadhan time, this can also be a > > useful time in astrological predictions. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > Web: http://www.PunitPan dey.com <http://www.punitpandey.com/> | IM: pandeypunit@ > > <pandeypunit | Phone: +1-312-436-2075 (US) > > Phone: +91-97600 26368 (India) | Twitter: http://twitter. com/pandeypunit<http://twitter.com/pandeypunit>| FriendFeed: http://friendfeed. > > com/pandeypunit <http://friendfeed.com/pandeypunit> > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > > <sunaparantha> wrote: > > > >> Dear Dr. Luther Rath, > >> Thank U. > >> Though it is not available in any leaf of a book, at our touchable area, > >> certainly it should be there, any where in India. Because Vedic Astrology > >> has been born in India.Our forefathers in Sri Lanka were only the followers > >> of Astrology, which came from India and they were not the founders. But > >> they were skilled Pundits in Sanskrit and had used and understood all the > >> Vedic Astrology System through hand written Palm leaves. Still some are > >> having such books, but are hidden treasures only, as they dont give away the > >> Sastra out of the Parampara. > >> I think Guruji Shri KSK too had not seen such issues. > >> However it is a surprise, why Bharath nation is not practising it at > >> present.. > >> Good Luck > >> Sunaparantha > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> ** Luther Rath <rathluther <rathluther> > >> *To:* @gro ups.com > >> *Sent:* Friday, October 31, 2008 6:33:59 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: Astrology & Puberty > >> > >> Dear Sunaparanthaji, > >> Now I have clearly understood the issue. But I am sorry to say I do not > >> have a bit of idea about it. In KP I have no where found any mention on the > >> topic.I was referring to Hindu Predictive Astrology by B V Raman. Under the > >> topic of " First Menses and it Influence " he has given some predictions in > >> nut shell covering only 2 pages. For full information he has advised to read > >> the book " Female Horoscopy " by Prof. B. Suryanarain Rao. I do not have any > >> more information. You may find that book and go through it. > >> With regards. > >> Dr. Luther Rath > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> ** Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > > >> *To:* @gro ups.com > >> > >> *Cc:* rathluther > >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:07:39 PM > >> *Subject:* Re: Astrology & Puberty > >> > >> > >> > >> Dear Dr. Luther Rath, > >> Thank U very much for your response to me. > >> These are the specifications > >> > >> (1) Yes, " Puberty " is the first menstrual period of a girl. > >> > >> The word I have quoted is misspelled, It should be read as > >> " Madhyma " , means a girl, who attended her first menstrual, as far as > >> my memory. > >> > >> (2) " the place of attended " - U can have some idea by going through the > >> followings. > >> > >> (3) The urge of study this is because 99% of Sri Lankan are use to > >> follow a prediction of a first menstrual time and place. They treat this as > >> the second birth of a girl and believe the good or evil results forecasted > >> by the Astrologer. Further detail given here are disclosed by the editors of > >> a Local Panchanga Ephemeris and Almanac, and it comes by Parampara. But I > >> have never come across anything on the subject in any Astrological Text. In > >> Shri KSK's books, there is not a single letter on this. That's why " I urged > >> to see whether there is any ancient text on that and see the positive > >> results of it. > >> > >> > >> > >> According to an old local Panchang publication, a summary of article is as > >> follow. > >> > >> > >> > >> When the Moon transit to either 1,2,4,5,7,8 or 12 of the girl's horoscope > >> *and *aspected by Mars, *OR* if Moon occupied in one of the above Rashis, > >> which is either Gemini, Virgo, Libra, first half of Sagittarius, or > >> Aquarius and aspected by Mars and* if *the girl is in the suitable age > >> limit to be an adult, then the first menstruation will take place. > >> > >> Predictions > >> > >> (1) *As per the person, who visited to the Astrologer,* > >> > >> If that person came from the East and asked, the girl was with a wear and > >> tear cloth and number of blood drops are three. > >> > >> If from South East, the girl was with a blue clothings and number blood > >> drops are three. > >> > >> and so on for the each sides. > >> > >> *(2) **As per the clothe of the girl at the first menstruation * > >> > >> If she was in white clothe no children > >> > >> If in red ill health > >> > >> If in blue poor and widower... and so on > >> > >> *(3) **As per Number of blood drops * > >> > > If odd numbers of blood drops, male children. For even numbers female > > children and so on > > > > *(4) **Judging the place, where the first menstruation took place.* > > > > If the first menstruation was occurred when the Moon is in the Nakshastra > > of Kartikai, Punarvasu, Poorvaaplguni, swathi, Moolam, Jyestha or > > Revathie, then place of first menstruation was out of her residence.. > > > > If in Rohini, Pushyam, Uttrapalguni, Vishaka, Pooradam or Satabhisa, then > > it has happened in her own residence. > > > > And so on. > > > > > > > > > > > > *(5) **Results as per the place* > > > > If it is out of her own house, bad character. If it is a close place to > > water like lake or river she will have a long life. If it is in a church or > > temple, a miserable life. And so on. > > > > *(6) **Date wise * > > > > Sunday - cruel. Monday- Good Character. Tuesday- Illness. Wednesday- > > Meritsful. Thursday- whealthy. Friday- Healthy. Saturday- Poverty > > > > > > > > And there are some other types of prediction such as : Nakshastra Pala, > > Thithi Pala, Lagna Pala,etc. > > > > As soon as the parents come to know that the daughter has bee attended, > > their first duty is to go to an Astrologer with her horoscope. Then he go > > through all above matters and gives prediction with an auspicious day and > > time for the first Bath of the girl. She will be bathed by woman belongs > > to a Rajaka (Dhobi) family, in absence of any male. > > > > After that she will be blessed by her parents first and then other family > > members and relations. Nowadays most of people used to celebrate this > > occasion as well as a marriage festival. > > > > As a student of KP, I usually wish to peep in to the matters pertaining to > > traditional habits of Astrology like this and to see whether there is any > > good results to follow up. That is the main reason for my mail. > > > > > > > > Thank U and best wishes > > > > Sunaparantha > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Luther Rath <rathluther > > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:15:59 AM > > *Subject:* Re: Astrology & Puberty > > > > Dear Sunaparanthaji, > > I am sorry, I am not able to open your attached document on 'Puberty'. > > Dr. Luther Rath > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:15:47 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Astrology & Puberty > > > > Namaskar, > > Dear Dr. Luther Rath, > > > > Please go through the attachment for further clarification. > > > > Good Luck > > Suanaparantha > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Luther Rath <rathluther > > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:50:28 AM > > *Subject:* Re: Astrology & Puberty > > > > Dear Kalyanji, > > I am not very clear about the issue you have raised. > > > > 1. Do you mean the occurrence of first menstrual period by the word " * > > Puberty* " ? In India in our state also people celebrate the occasion. > > But I have not heard the word " Madhyam " . It could be due to the language > > difference. > > 2. You have put a query about " the place of attended " I am not able to > > understand it. > > 3. Next is why is the urge to study this? > > > > Will you please be clear about the issue and make your question more > > specific? > > Thanking you... > > With regards.. > > Dr. Luther Rath. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2008 7:19:37 PM > > *Subject:* Fw: Astrology & Puberty > > > > Once again I forward my message below, as no member had gone through > > yet. > > Sunaparantha > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > ** Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > *Sent:* Friday, October 17, 2008 9:38:26 PM > > *Subject:* Astrology & Puberty > > > > Dear Respected Members, > > I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & > > Puberty " . > > So far I have not come across this in our KP System. > > In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called " Attending " of a > > girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many > > traditional activities. > > The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through > > an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time > > are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or > > correctness of prediction according to my experience. > > Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the > > educational purposes. > > (In Sanskrit is it " MADHYAM " ? Pl. explain.) > > > > Good Luck > > Sunaparantha > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > http://mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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