Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Dear Sujatkaram ji,20/09/71, 21:45 IST, Kalyan, 19N14, 73E07, KPNA 23:22:19, Asc Ta 01:39:26, Mo Dasa bal 6Y:0M:21D (KPAstro 3.0)4CSL Ve(5,1-2), star Mo(5,4), sub Mo(5,4)3 & 9CSL Sa(1,10-11), star Mo(5,4), sub Ra+(9,7,8,5,4,1,10,11)11CSL Ju+(7, 9-12), star Sa(1,10-11), sub Ke+(3,9,7,8,12,1,10,11,5,4) Clear indicators for higher education but not educated?Regards,tw Person Details Sex Male Date of birth 20 : 9 : 1971 Time of Birth 21 : 45 : 0 Day of birth Monday Ishtkaal 038-18-02 Place of Birth Kalyan Country India Time Zone 5.5 Latitude 19 : 14 : N Longitude 73 : 7 : E Local Time 00.37.32 War Time Correction 00.00.00 LMT at Birth 21.07.27 GMT at Birth 1.00.00 Tithi Pratipad Hindu Week Day Monday Paksha Shukla Yoga Sukla Karan Bav Sunrise 06.25.47 Sunset 18.36.40 Day Duration 12.10.52 Avkahada Chakra Paya (RasiBased) Rajat Varna Vaisya Yoni Mahis Gana Deva Vasya Manab Nadi Start Balance Of Dasha MOON 6 Y 0 M 23 D Lagna Taurus Lagna Lord Ven Rasi Virgo Rasi Lord Mer Nakshatra-Pada Hasta-2 Nakshatra Lord Mon Julian Day 2441215 SunSign(Indian) Virgo SunSign(Western) Virgo Ayanamsa 023-22-18 Ayanamsa Name KP New Ayanamsa Obliquity 023-26-34 Sideral Time 21.03.01 KP Planets & Cusps Balance Of Dasha : MOON 6 Y 0 M 23 D Planets PLANET DEGREE RAS-NAK-SUB-SS Ret/Dir SUN 153-40-48 MER-SUN-SAT-KET Direct MOON 165-15-01 MER-MON-JUP-MON Direct MARS 289-20-41 SAT-MON-MER-JUP Direct MERCURY 139-14-53 SUN-VEN-RAH-MER Direct JUPITER 217-55-41 MAR-SAT-KET-SAT Direct VENUS 160-09-24 MER-MON-MON-MAR Direct SATURN 043-11-56 VEN-MON-RAH-VEN Retrograde RAHU 288-40-21 SAT-MON-MER-MON Retrograde KETU 108-40-21 MON-MER-KET-VEN Retrograde URANUS 169-27-55 MER-MON-MER-SAT Direct NEPTUNE 217-19-19 MAR-SAT-MER-SAT Direct PLUTO 156-04-26 MER-SUN-MER-MAR Direct Bhav CUSP DEGREE RAS-NAK-SUB-SS 1 031-38-46 VEN-SUN-JUP-SAT 2 058-48-59 VEN-MAR-SAT-VEN 3 083-42-05 MER-JUP-SAT-JUP 4 109-55-10 MON-MER-VEN-MON 5 140-21-22 SUN-VEN-JUP-SAT 6 175-35-39 MER-MAR-RAH-VEN 7 211-38-46 MAR-JUP-RAH-JUP 8 238-48-59 MAR-MER-SAT-VEN 9 263-42-05 JUP-VEN-SAT-RAH 10 289-55-10 SAT-MON-KET-MON 11 320-21-22 SAT-JUP-JUP-SAT 12 355-35-39 JUP-MER-RAH-VEN Planet Signification Planets Houses SUN 5 MOON 4 5 MARS 4 5 7 8 9 MERCURY 1 2 3 4 5 6 JUPITER 1 7 9 10 11 12 VENUS 1 2 4 5 SATURN 1 4 5 10 11 RAHU 4 5 9 KETU 3 4 6 Significators of Houses Houses Planets I MERCURY JUPITER VENUS SATURN II MERCURY VENUS III MERCURY KETU IV MOON MARS MERCURY VENUS SATURN RAHU KETU V SUN MOON MARS MERCURY VENUS SATURN RAHU VI MERCURY KETU VII MARS JUPITER VIII MARS IX MARS JUPITER RAHU X JUPITER SATURN XI JUPITER SATURN XII JUPITER , "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram wrote:>> Respected Mr. Tinwinji,> Sir,> Kindly anylise the following chart for education and profession. This > is a post-event study and you may undertake RBT if required. I did my > best but could not match the events with my reading of the chart. I > put this chart on shelf as an exception.> DB-- 20/09/71> TOB-- 21.45 hrs.> POB Kalyan.> regards,> sujatkaram , "tw853" tw853@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,> > > > 1. As mentioned before, I may be wrong by sticking to some points> > other than over all view as you've done by taking into account of > his> > own effort shown by 1st house signification. Line of education or> > profession is a very difficult task. 3CSL Me indicates the boy's> > interest which is different from the indication by 4CSL Ma. More> > detailed study will need in this regard.> > > > 2. As per my understanding, 8, 12 = break in education; 3,5,8 => > failure or end of education (not good end); 4,9,11 = completion of> > education (getting a degree). Some takes 3, 12 = break in education.> > In a book recommended by some as classic, it is taken 3,8 (12 to > 4,9)> > = completion of education (getting a degree). > > > > 3. For break in education, the following charts are worthy to study.> > > > 1) Dr. BV Raman, 8 August 1912, 19:43 PM IST, Bangalore, 12N59, > 77E35,> > NKPA 22:32:49, Asc Aq 10:39:20, Mars Dasa bal 6Y:9M;6D (KPAstro > 3.0);> > 1-07-1928 (Ra-Me-Mo DBA) attended college (4,9,11 signification);> > after Dec 1928 (Ra-Me-Ra) left the college to help his grand father> > (3,5,8,12 signification); 1-07-1931 (861) rejoined the college again> > under grand father's pressure by half by half assistance of grand> > father and father in law; March 1935 (Ra-Ma-Ra) obtained B.Sc. > (4,9,11> > signification)> > > > 2) Dhirubhai Ambani, 28 Dec 1932, 6:37 AM IST, Chorwad, 21N01, > 70E14,> > NKPA 22:49:53, Asc Sg 01:25:31, Venus 8Y;2M:8D (KPAstro 3.0); After> > Matriculation at 16 (Moon/Rahu dasa period) left for Aden to work > and> > learn business (8,12,3,5,9,6,11 signification).> > > > 3) Male, 30 Jan 1983, 03:00 AM IST, Trichur, 10N31, 76E31, NKPA> > 23:31:50, Asc Sc 20:40:32, Mercury Dasa bal 0Y:7M;13D; 1988 to 2002> > (Ve-Ra to Ve-Ju DB) break in education (3,5,8,12 signification)> > (Education and Saturn, KPEzine Sept 2008) > > > > 4. For the boy, Dasa lord Ra signifies 8, 5 as well as 4,9 and the> > Bhuktis may not be so bad each self.> > > > Good luck!> > > > tw> > > > > > , "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr.Tin Winji,> > > > > > Many thanks for your reply about the boy. I have tried my best to> > analyse it according to my knowledge. It may look like my wishful> > thinking. The boy is my grandson. Actual position is that he is> > scoring good marks in examn., he is good at Science and Maths. As it> > is no laxity in his studies. He is interested in Engg. side only and> > not interested in Medl. God only knows what is in his store. You > know> > well that no 2 Astrologers will give same opinion. I have full > regard> > for you. My fear was that he is running Rahu MD for another 6 years > or> > so. Whether he will have interruption in his studies due to > sickness> > or other reasons.> > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > - > > > tw853 > > > > > > Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:42 PM> > > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramani ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Pl see comment below.> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Chart Details > > > > > > > > > > > > Male, 24 Jul 1995, Monday; 20-14 PM IST, 13 N 06, 80 E 12, NKPA> > 23-42-18, Asc Aq 04-18-05, Nars Dasa bal 1Y-4M-14D (KPAstro 3.0)> > > > > > 2. Favorable and Unfavorable Houses> > > > > > > > > > > > Generally 4 & 9 represent education mainly and 6 denotes success> > in education. Hence 12 (Vrya) to these houses viz. 3,8,5 are > therefore> > detrimental to education. In addition, 11 is for success and 12> > indicates failure, defect. So 4,9,6,11 are .favorable houses and> > 3,8,5,12 are unfavorable houses for success in education.> > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Main Houses> > > > > > > > > > > > 4 (lower education) CSL Ma(7, 3-10) is in the star of Su(6, 7) > and> > in the sub of Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and becoming a> > strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of these> > cusps (as per K.M. Subramanium, Vaikari Ramamurthy, Kuppu Ganapathi,> > Kanak Bosmia and others). Ma does not signify 4, 11, especially 9 > but> > connected to 4,9 by the sub. Connection to 3,5,8 is undesirable.> > > > > > > > > > > > 9 (higher education) CSL Me+(5, 5-8) is in the star and sub of> > Sa(1, 1-12). No planet is in the star of Me+, which is the sublord > of> > cusps 3,9 and becomes a strong significator of > > > > > > these houses. Me signifies 9 but not the essential 11. And > 5,8,12> > signification is undesirable.> > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Supporting Houses> > > > > > > > > > > > 3 (inclination to study, mental concentration, writing> > examination) CSL Me+(5, 5-8) is in the star and sub of Sa(1, 1-12). > No> > planet is in the star of Me+, which is the sublord of cusps 3,9 and> > becomes a strong significator of these houses. 5,8,12 signification > is> > undesirable.> > > > > > > > > > > > 11 (success in education) Ra(8) is own star and sub of Ra(8) > whose> > signlord Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and becoming a > strong> > significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of these cusps. > 4,9> > signification is favorable for lower and higher education. But > > > > > > 8,5 signification is undesirable.> > > > > > > > > > > > 1CSL Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and becoming a > strong> > significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of these cusps. > Ve+> > is in the star of Ju(10, 2-11) and sub of Mo+(4, 6) having no planet> > in its star and being the sublord of cusps 7,10. Ve's 4,9,10,11> > signification is favorable for lower and higher education. But 5,8> > signification is undesirable.> > > > > > > > > > > > 2 (Vaksthane/Vidhya, speech) CSL Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in > its> > star and becoming a strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the> > sublord of these cusps. Ve+ is in the star of Ju(10, 2-11) and sub > of> > Mo+(4, 6) having no planet in its star and being the sublord of > cusps> > 7,10. Ve's 4,9,10,11 signification is favorable for lower and > higher> > education. But 5,8 signification is undesirable.> > > > > > > > > > > > 5 (intellectual capacity) CSL Ra(8) is own star and sub of Ra(8)> > whose signlord Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and becoming a> > strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of these> > cusps. 4,9 signification is favorable for lower and higher > education.> > But 8,5 signification is undesirable.> > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Vidya Karaka> > > > > > > > > > > > Me+(5, 5-8) is in the star and sub of Sa(1, 1-12). No planet is > in> > the star of Me+, which is the sublord of cusps 3,9 and becomes a> > strong significator of these houses.> > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Running Dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Running Dasa (till 08 Dec 2014) is Ra(8) is own star and sub of> > Ra(8) whose signlord Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and> > becoming a strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord > of> > these cusps. 4,9 signification is favorable for lower and higher> > education. But 8,5 signification is undesirable.> > > > > > > > > > > > 7. Conclusion> > > > > > > > > > > > It may be difficult to get higher education on the basis of the> > indication of especially 3,4,9 cusps and Rahu Dasa. Of course it > will> > vary depending on one's judgment and no strong view in this > regard.If> > got higher education, 4CSL Ma generally favors the medical line.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tin Winji/Dr.Luther Rath/members,> > > > > > > > I have now attached my own observation for your kind perusal > and> > comments. The omission of the attachment with my previous mail is> > regretted.> > > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > - > > > > tw853 > > > > > > > > Monday, November 03, 2008 6:17 AM> > > > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramani ji,> > > > > > > > No comment as I can't read any attachment.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > , "Venkataramani KS"> > > > kadavasalramani@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Tin Winji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of my mail on receipt of your views on the> > chart of> > > > the boy,> > > > > I am attaching my own observation for your kind perusal. If > my> > view is> > > > > incorrect, kindly correct me with reason.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Luther Rath rathluther@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > > > > > Good Morning.> > > > > > I use Jagannath Hora 7.2 advocated my many of the members.> > Kindly> > > > send your> > > > > > observations. I don't think I can be able to find out any> > error in> > > > your> > > > > > observations. Interpritations by two persons will > definitely> > > > differ. That> > > > > > cannot be called an error. By examining the jusifications > we may> > > > try to> > > > > > compromise and may reach to a consensus. I am prepared to> > agree to> > > > my errors> > > > > > if any. It will help us to learn and refine our > presdictions.> > > > > > Thanking you.> > > > > > With regards.> > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > > ** Ramani kadavasalramani@> > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > *Sent:* Friday, October 31, 2008 11:45:27 AM> > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Line of education and > profession.> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Ratth,> > > > > >> > > > > > I am very much thankful to you for your fine analysis of > the> > chart> > > > sent by> > > > > > me. I am using KP ASTRO 3.0 SW and there is slight> > differences in> > > > SSL & > > > > > > SSSL. May I know what SW you are having pl.? I am sending > my own> > > > analysis> > > > > > for your> > > > > > kind perusal in a few days. If you find the result of my > view is> > > > wrong, Irequest you to please point out for my incorrect> > > > > > observation and where I have erred. It is only for my > learning> > > > purpose and> > > > > > not to challenge your views pl> > > > > >> > > > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > > >> > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani.> > > > > > observation --> > > > > > Original Message -----> > > > > >> > > > > > ** Luther Rath rathluther@> > > > > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:04 PM> > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Line of education and > profession.> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > > > > > Namaskar.> > > > > > Kindly see the attached file for the prediction regarding> > > > education and> > > > > > profession of your son. Kindly reply.> > > > > > With due regards.> > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > > ** Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com > kadavasalramani@>> > > > > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > > > > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:07:12 PM> > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Line of education and > profession.> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Mr.Tin Winji,> > > > > >> > > > > > I am extremely sorry that the date of birth of the boy was> > erroneously> > > > > > indicated by slip. The correct date of birth of the boy > is 24th> > > > July, 1995> > > > > > Monday (he has completed 13 years of age & is running > 14th year> > > > studying in> > > > > > 9th Class in a reputed school at Chennai). Other > particulars> > Time> > > > of Birth,> > > > > > Place of Birth etc. are correct.> > > > > > TOB 20-14 IST; POB Chennai Mambalam Long.13-4 (N)> > > > > > (GC)- Lat.80-17(E) Ayanamsa 23-42-26 (NKP) generated> > > > > > from KP Astro 3.0. I earnestly request you to examine> > > > > > the chart on the lines requested by me in my previous > mail..> > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > >> > > > > > -> > > > > > ** Luther Rath rathluther@> > > > > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > > > > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:15 AM> > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Line of education and > profession.> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > > > > > Good Morning.> > > > > > The boy concerned was born in the yearof 1965 as > mentioned.> > Is that> > > > > > correct. If it is right he has already attained age of 43> > > > years.Where comes> > > > > > the question of education now. Do you want to have a> > retrospective> > > > analysis?> > > > > > Kindly clerify.> > > > > > With regards.> > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > > ** Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com > kadavasalramani@>> > > > > > *To:* @gro ups.com> > > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2002 3:31:50 PM> > > > > > *Subject:* Line of education and profession.> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Tin Winji,> > > > > >> > > > > > There is difference of opinion between 2 KP followers reg.> > line of> > > > > > education and profession in respect of the following > chart. I> > > > request you> > > > > > kindly to give your valued opinion :> > > > > > (1) Boy's Education prospects; (2) whether it relates to> > > > > > professional education or otherwise; (3) If it relates to> > > > profession, what> > > > > > line (Medl. or Engg. etc); (4) whether he> > > > > > can get higher ediucation without any interruption.> > > > > >> > > > > > Male: DOB 24-7-1965 Monday; TOB 20-14 (8-144 PM)> > > > > > POB Lat.13(N)-6' ' Long.80-12(E) ; KP Ayanamsa 23-42-18.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanking you,> > > > > >> > > > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > > >> > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Respected Tinwinji, Sir, If we employ 4-step method to workout the significators , Venus becomes significator of the 5th house only! What does it indicate as regards education? Saturn becomes significator of 5th, 8th and 9th house. What should it mean when even primary education is not indicated? regards, sujat. , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Sujatkaram ji, > > 20/09/71, 21:45 IST, Kalyan, 19N14, 73E07, KPNA 23:22:19, Asc Ta > 01:39:26, Mo Dasa bal 6Y:0M:21D (KPAstro 3.0) > 4CSL Ve(5,1-2), star Mo(5,4), sub Mo(5,4) > 3 & 9CSL Sa(1,10-11), star Mo(5,4), sub Ra+(9,7,8,5,4,1,10,11) > 11CSL Ju+(7, 9-12), star Sa(1,10-11), sub Ke+ (3,9,7,8,12,1,10,11,5,4) > > Clear indicators for higher education but not educated? > > Regards, > > tw > > Person Details Sex Male Date of birth 20 : 9 : 1971 Time of > Birth 21 : 45 : 0 Day of birth Monday Ishtkaal 038-18-02 > Place of Birth Kalyan Country India Time Zone 5.5 Latitude > 19 : 14 : N Longitude 73 : 7 : E Local Time 00.37.32 War Time > Correction 00.00.00 LMT at Birth 21.07.27 GMT at Birth 1.00.00 > Tithi Pratipad Hindu Week Day Monday Paksha Shukla Yoga > Sukla Karan Bav Sunrise 06.25.47 Sunset 18.36.40 Day > Duration 12.10.52 > > Avkahada Chakra Paya (RasiBased) Rajat Varna Vaisya Yoni > Mahis Gana Deva Vasya Manab Nadi Start Balance Of > Dasha MOON 6 Y 0 M 23 D Lagna Taurus Lagna Lord Ven Rasi > Virgo Rasi Lord Mer Nakshatra-Pada Hasta-2 Nakshatra Lord > Mon Julian Day 2441215 SunSign(Indian) Virgo SunSign (Western) > Virgo Ayanamsa 023-22-18 Ayanamsa Name KP New Ayanamsa > Obliquity 023-26-34 Sideral Time 21.03.01 > > KP Planets & Cusps Balance Of Dasha : MOON 6 Y 0 M 23 D > Planets PLANET DEGREE RAS-NAK-SUB-SS Ret/Dir SUN 153-40-48 > MER-SUN-SAT-KET Direct MOON 165-15-01 MER-MON-JUP-MON Direct > MARS 289-20-41 SAT-MON-MER-JUP Direct MERCURY 139-14-53 > SUN-VEN-RAH-MER Direct JUPITER 217-55-41 MAR-SAT-KET-SAT Direct > VENUS 160-09-24 MER-MON-MON-MAR Direct SATURN 043-11-56 > VEN-MON-RAH-VEN Retrograde RAHU 288-40-21 SAT-MON-MER-MON > Retrograde KETU 108-40-21 MON-MER-KET-VEN Retrograde URANUS > 169-27-55 MER-MON-MER-SAT Direct NEPTUNE 217-19-19 MAR-SAT- MER-SAT > Direct PLUTO 156-04-26 MER-SUN-MER-MAR Direct Bhav CUSP > DEGREE RAS-NAK-SUB-SS 1 031-38-46 VEN-SUN-JUP-SAT 2 058-48-59 > VEN-MAR-SAT-VEN 3 083-42-05 MER-JUP-SAT-JUP 4 109-55-10 > MON-MER-VEN-MON 5 140-21-22 SUN-VEN-JUP-SAT 6 175-35-39 > MER-MAR-RAH-VEN 7 211-38-46 MAR-JUP-RAH-JUP 8 238-48-59 > MAR-MER-SAT-VEN 9 263-42-05 JUP-VEN-SAT-RAH 10 289-55-10 > SAT-MON-KET-MON 11 320-21-22 SAT-JUP-JUP-SAT 12 355-35-39 > JUP-MER-RAH-VEN > > > Planet Signification Planets Houses SUN 5 MOON 4 5 MARS 4 5 > 7 8 9 MERCURY 1 2 3 4 5 6 JUPITER 1 7 9 10 11 12 VENUS > 1 2 4 5 SATURN 1 4 5 10 11 RAHU 4 5 9 KETU 3 4 6 > Significators of Houses Houses Planets I MERCURY JUPITER VENUS > SATURN II MERCURY VENUS III MERCURY KETU IV MOON MARS MERCURY > VENUS SATURN RAHU KETU V SUN MOON MARS MERCURY VENUS SATURN > RAHU VI MERCURY KETU VII MARS JUPITER VIII MARS IX MARS > JUPITER RAHU X JUPITER SATURN XI JUPITER SATURN XII JUPITER > , " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram@> wrote: > > > > Respected Mr. Tinwinji, > > Sir, > > Kindly anylise the following chart for education and profession. This > > is a post-event study and you may undertake RBT if required. I did my > > best but could not match the events with my reading of the chart. I > > put this chart on shelf as an exception. > > DB-- 20/09/71 > > TOB-- 21.45 hrs. > > POB Kalyan. > > regards, > > sujatkaram , " tw853 " tw853@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Ramani ji, > > > > > > 1. As mentioned before, I may be wrong by sticking to some points > > > other than over all view as you've done by taking into account of > > his > > > own effort shown by 1st house signification. Line of education or > > > profession is a very difficult task. 3CSL Me indicates the boy's > > > interest which is different from the indication by 4CSL Ma. More > > > detailed study will need in this regard. > > > > > > 2. As per my understanding, 8, 12 = break in education; 3,5,8 = > > > failure or end of education (not good end); 4,9,11 = completion of > > > education (getting a degree). Some takes 3, 12 = break in education. > > > In a book recommended by some as classic, it is taken 3,8 (12 to > > 4,9) > > > = completion of education (getting a degree). > > > > > > 3. For break in education, the following charts are worthy to study. > > > > > > 1) Dr. BV Raman, 8 August 1912, 19:43 PM IST, Bangalore, 12N59, > > 77E35, > > > NKPA 22:32:49, Asc Aq 10:39:20, Mars Dasa bal 6Y:9M;6D (KPAstro > > 3.0); > > > 1-07-1928 (Ra-Me-Mo DBA) attended college (4,9,11 signification); > > > after Dec 1928 (Ra-Me-Ra) left the college to help his grand father > > > (3,5,8,12 signification); 1-07-1931 (861) rejoined the college again > > > under grand father's pressure by half by half assistance of grand > > > father and father in law; March 1935 (Ra-Ma-Ra) obtained B.Sc. > > (4,9,11 > > > signification) > > > > > > 2) Dhirubhai Ambani, 28 Dec 1932, 6:37 AM IST, Chorwad, 21N01, > > 70E14, > > > NKPA 22:49:53, Asc Sg 01:25:31, Venus 8Y;2M:8D (KPAstro 3.0); After > > > Matriculation at 16 (Moon/Rahu dasa period) left for Aden to work > > and > > > learn business (8,12,3,5,9,6,11 signification). > > > > > > 3) Male, 30 Jan 1983, 03:00 AM IST, Trichur, 10N31, 76E31, NKPA > > > 23:31:50, Asc Sc 20:40:32, Mercury Dasa bal 0Y:7M;13D; 1988 to 2002 > > > (Ve-Ra to Ve-Ju DB) break in education (3,5,8,12 signification) > > > (Education and Saturn, KPEzine Sept 2008) > > > > > > 4. For the boy, Dasa lord Ra signifies 8, 5 as well as 4,9 and the > > > Bhuktis may not be so bad each self. > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > , " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Tin Winji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your reply about the boy. I have tried my best to > > > analyse it according to my knowledge. It may look like my wishful > > > thinking. The boy is my grandson. Actual position is that he is > > > scoring good marks in examn., he is good at Science and Maths. As it > > > is no laxity in his studies. He is interested in Engg. side only and > > > not interested in Medl. God only knows what is in his store. You > > know > > > well that no 2 Astrologers will give same opinion. I have full > > regard > > > for you. My fear was that he is running Rahu MD for another 6 years > > or > > > so. Whether he will have interruption in his studies due to > > sickness > > > or other reasons. > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > - > > > > tw853 > > > > > > > > Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:42 PM > > > > Re: Line of education and profession. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramani ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pl see comment below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Chart Details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Male, 24 Jul 1995, Monday; 20-14 PM IST, 13 N 06, 80 E 12, NKPA > > > 23-42-18, Asc Aq 04-18-05, Nars Dasa bal 1Y-4M-14D (KPAstro 3.0) > > > > > > > > 2. Favorable and Unfavorable Houses > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Generally 4 & 9 represent education mainly and 6 denotes success > > > in education. Hence 12 (Vrya) to these houses viz. 3,8,5 are > > therefore > > > detrimental to education. In addition, 11 is for success and 12 > > > indicates failure, defect. So 4,9,6,11 are .favorable houses and > > > 3,8,5,12 are unfavorable houses for success in education. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Main Houses > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 (lower education) CSL Ma(7, 3-10) is in the star of Su(6, 7) > > and > > > in the sub of Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and becoming a > > > strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of these > > > cusps (as per K.M. Subramanium, Vaikari Ramamurthy, Kuppu Ganapathi, > > > Kanak Bosmia and others). Ma does not signify 4, 11, especially 9 > > but > > > connected to 4,9 by the sub. Connection to 3,5,8 is undesirable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 (higher education) CSL Me+(5, 5-8) is in the star and sub of > > > Sa(1, 1-12). No planet is in the star of Me+, which is the sublord > > of > > > cusps 3,9 and becomes a strong significator of > > > > > > > > these houses. Me signifies 9 but not the essential 11. And > > 5,8,12 > > > signification is undesirable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Supporting Houses > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 (inclination to study, mental concentration, writing > > > examination) CSL Me+(5, 5-8) is in the star and sub of Sa(1, 1- 12). > > No > > > planet is in the star of Me+, which is the sublord of cusps 3,9 and > > > becomes a strong significator of these houses. 5,8,12 signification > > is > > > undesirable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 (success in education) Ra(8) is own star and sub of Ra(8) > > whose > > > signlord Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and becoming a > > strong > > > significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of these cusps. > > 4,9 > > > signification is favorable for lower and higher education. But > > > > > > > > 8,5 signification is undesirable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1CSL Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and becoming a > > strong > > > significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of these cusps. > > Ve+ > > > is in the star of Ju(10, 2-11) and sub of Mo+(4, 6) having no planet > > > in its star and being the sublord of cusps 7,10. Ve's 4,9,10,11 > > > signification is favorable for lower and higher education. But 5,8 > > > signification is undesirable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 (Vaksthane/Vidhya, speech) CSL Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in > > its > > > star and becoming a strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the > > > sublord of these cusps. Ve+ is in the star of Ju(10, 2-11) and sub > > of > > > Mo+(4, 6) having no planet in its star and being the sublord of > > cusps > > > 7,10. Ve's 4,9,10,11 signification is favorable for lower and > > higher > > > education. But 5,8 signification is undesirable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5 (intellectual capacity) CSL Ra(8) is own star and sub of Ra(8) > > > whose signlord Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and becoming a > > > strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of these > > > cusps. 4,9 signification is favorable for lower and higher > > education. > > > But 8,5 signification is undesirable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Vidya Karaka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me+(5, 5-8) is in the star and sub of Sa(1, 1-12). No planet is > > in > > > the star of Me+, which is the sublord of cusps 3,9 and becomes a > > > strong significator of these houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Running Dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Running Dasa (till 08 Dec 2014) is Ra(8) is own star and sub of > > > Ra(8) whose signlord Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and > > > becoming a strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord > > of > > > these cusps. 4,9 signification is favorable for lower and higher > > > education. But 8,5 signification is undesirable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. Conclusion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It may be difficult to get higher education on the basis of the > > > indication of especially 3,4,9 cusps and Rahu Dasa. Of course it > > will > > > vary depending on one's judgment and no strong view in this > > regard.If > > > got higher education, 4CSL Ma generally favors the medical line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Winji/Dr.Luther Rath/members, > > > > > > > > > > I have now attached my own observation for your kind perusal > > and > > > comments. The omission of the attachment with my previous mail is > > > regretted. > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > - > > > > > tw853 > > > > > > > > > > Monday, November 03, 2008 6:17 AM > > > > > Re: Line of education and profession. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramani ji, > > > > > > > > > > No comment as I can't read any attachment. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > , " Venkataramani KS " > > > > > kadavasalramani@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Tin Winji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In continuation of my mail on receipt of your views on the > > > chart of > > > > > the boy, > > > > > > I am attaching my own observation for your kind perusal. If > > my > > > view is > > > > > > incorrect, kindly correct me with reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Luther Rath rathluther@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji, > > > > > > > Good Morning. > > > > > > > I use Jagannath Hora 7.2 advocated my many of the members. > > > Kindly > > > > > send your > > > > > > > observations. I don't think I can be able to find out any > > > error in > > > > > your > > > > > > > observations. Interpritations by two persons will > > definitely > > > > > differ. That > > > > > > > cannot be called an error. By examining the jusifications > > we may > > > > > try to > > > > > > > compromise and may reach to a consensus. I am prepared to > > > agree to > > > > > my errors > > > > > > > if any. It will help us to learn and refine our > > presdictions. > > > > > > > Thanking you. > > > > > > > With regards. > > > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > ** Ramani kadavasalramani@ > > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > > *Sent:* Friday, October 31, 2008 11:45:27 AM > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Line of education and > > profession. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Ratth, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am very much thankful to you for your fine analysis of > > the > > > chart > > > > > sent by > > > > > > > me. I am using KP ASTRO 3.0 SW and there is slight > > > differences in > > > > > SSL & > > > > > > > SSSL. May I know what SW you are having pl.? I am sending > > my own > > > > > analysis > > > > > > > for your > > > > > > > kind perusal in a few days. If you find the result of my > > view is > > > > > wrong, Irequest you to please point out for my incorrect > > > > > > > observation and where I have erred. It is only for my > > learning > > > > > purpose and > > > > > > > not to challenge your views pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani. > > > > > > > observation -- > > > > > > > Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** Luther Rath rathluther@ > > > > > > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:04 PM > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Line of education and > > profession. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji, > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > Kindly see the attached file for the prediction regarding > > > > > education and > > > > > > > profession of your son. Kindly reply. > > > > > > > With due regards. > > > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > ** Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com > > kadavasalramani@> > > > > > > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:07:12 PM > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Line of education and > > profession. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Mr.Tin Winji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am extremely sorry that the date of birth of the boy was > > > erroneously > > > > > > > indicated by slip. The correct date of birth of the boy > > is 24th > > > > > July, 1995 > > > > > > > Monday (he has completed 13 years of age & is running > > 14th year > > > > > studying in > > > > > > > 9th Class in a reputed school at Chennai). Other > > particulars > > > Time > > > > > of Birth, > > > > > > > Place of Birth etc. are correct. > > > > > > > TOB 20-14 IST; POB Chennai Mambalam Long.13-4 (N) > > > > > > > (GC)- Lat.80-17(E) Ayanamsa 23-42-26 (NKP) generated > > > > > > > from KP Astro 3.0. I earnestly request you to examine > > > > > > > the chart on the lines requested by me in my previous > > mail.. > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > Astrologically yours, > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > ** Luther Rath rathluther@ > > > > > > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:15 AM > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Line of education and > > profession. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji, > > > > > > > Good Morning. > > > > > > > The boy concerned was born in the yearof 1965 as > > mentioned. > > > Is that > > > > > > > correct. If it is right he has already attained age of 43 > > > > > years.Where comes > > > > > > > the question of education now. Do you want to have a > > > retrospective > > > > > analysis? > > > > > > > Kindly clerify. > > > > > > > With regards. > > > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > ** Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com > > kadavasalramani@> > > > > > > > *To:* @gro ups.com > > > > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2002 3:31:50 PM > > > > > > > *Subject:* Line of education and profession. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Tin Winji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is difference of opinion between 2 KP followers reg. > > > line of > > > > > > > education and profession in respect of the following > > chart. I > > > > > request you > > > > > > > kindly to give your valued opinion : > > > > > > > (1) Boy's Education prospects; (2) whether it relates to > > > > > > > professional education or otherwise; (3) If it relates to > > > > > profession, what > > > > > > > line (Medl. or Engg. etc); (4) whether he > > > > > > > can get higher ediucation without any interruption. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Male: DOB 24-7-1965 Monday; TOB 20-14 (8-144 PM) > > > > > > > POB Lat.13(N)-6' ' Long.80-12(E) ; KP Ayanamsa 23-42- 18. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Dear Sujatakaram ji, 1. 5th house denotes intellectual capacity (Msg#20765), which is conducive to learning and 5th (12 to 6) in unfavorable only for competitive exams (6th). 2. As per 4 step primary significators attached below, 4CSL Ve signifies 5 only, 3 & 9CSL Sa signifies 4,6,9,11 and 11CSL Ju signifies 4,6,9,11 and so higher education is promised, as indicated by KP. (Msg#21166) 3. Here is the interesting chart of Andrzej Lepper who has declared his primary education only and became the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development between 5 May 2006 and September 22, 2006, and again from 16 October 2006 to 9 July 2007, in the Polish coaliation Government of Jaroslaw Kaczy´nski. The sayana chart is available at the following link and http://www.mykundali.com/ chart is attached below.http://www.horoskop.astrolabium.pl/przyklad-andrzej-lepper.htm4. In this chart, 4CSL Me+does not signifty 9; but 9 & 11CSL Ju signifies 11 & 9 respectively as required for higher education. It seems that the 6,8,12 signification of the sub of 9 & 11CSL Sa+, by being the sub lord of 6,8,12 cusps and having no planet in its star, does not allow higher education. It may be the same reason for him being fired on 10/07/2007 leading to the collaspe of the coaliation Government before the end of Mercury Dasa-Saturn Bhukti (24/01/2005 to 07/10/2007), and loosing the representation of his party in the parliament in the general elections on 21/10/2007 at the just beginning of Ketu Dasa (06/10/2007 to 06/10/2014) since Ketu is in the sub of Sa, even though all planets except Su & Ma are the significator of 10th house. 5. This sub lord signification rule is well known by experience of Shri Kuppu Ganapathi, Shri Vikari Ramamurthy, Mr. Kanak Bosmia and others. But K M Subramaniam's application of 1) this rule as mentioned by Ramani ji and, 2) taking Badhaka for matters other than health and longevity as mentioned by Punit ji are not yet found in Shri K M Subramaniam's SUBLORD SPEAKS in 3 volumes, and could some one kindly provide the particular references in these 3 vols.Thanks and regards,tw4 Step Primary Significators (KPAstro 3.0) [20/09/71, 21:45 IST, Kalyan, 19N14, 73E07, KPNA 23:22:19, Asc Ta 01:39:26, Mo Dasa bal 6Y:0M:21D (KPAstro 3.0)]Empty houses: 2, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Ma, Ju, Ra, KePlanets in own stars (*): Su, MoMa conj 10Me conj 5Ra conj 10Ke conj 4Ra conj MaMe is aspected by MaKe is aspected by MaMa aspects 4, 5Me aspects 11Ra aspects 4Ke aspects 10Planet Ke+: 3; Sgl Mo(5); Asp by Ma(9, 8, Asp Me[4, 6, Asp 11, Cnj 5], Asp 4, Asp 5, Cnj 10); Asp 10; Cnj 4Starlord of Ke is Me: 4; 6; Asp by Ma(9, 8, Asp 4, Asp 5, Cnj 10); Asp 11; Cnj 5Sublord of Ke is Ke+: 3; Sgl Mo(5); Asp by Ma(9, 8, Asp Me[4, 6, Asp 11, Cnj 5], Asp 4, Asp 5, Cnj 10); Asp 10; Cnj 4Starlord of Ke is Me: 4; 6; Asp by Ma(9, 8, Asp 4, Asp 5, Cnj 10); Asp 11; Cnj 5Planet Ve:Starlord of Ve is Mo*: 5Sublord of Ve is Mo*: 5Starlord of Mo is Mo*: 5Planet Su*: 5Starlord of Su is Su*: 5Sublord of Su is Sa:Starlord of Sa is Mo*: 5Planet Mo*: 5Starlord of Mo is Mo*: 5Sublord of Mo is Ju+: 7; 12Starlord of Ju is Sa: 1; 10-11Planet Ma+: 9; 8; Asp Me(4, 6, Asp 11, Cnj 5); Asp 4; Asp 5; Cnj 10Starlord of Ma is Mo*: 5Sublord of Ma is Me: Cnj 5Starlord of Me is Ve: 5; 2Planet Ra+: 9; Sgl Sa(1, 10-11); Cnj Ma(9, 8, Asp Me[4, 6, Asp 11, Cnj 5],Asp 4, Asp 5, Cnj 10); Asp 4; Cnj 10Starlord of Ra is Mo*: 5Sublord of Ra is Me: Cnj 5Starlord of Me is Ve: 5; 2Planet Ju+: 7; 12Starlord of Ju is Sa: 1; 10-11Sublord of Ju is Ke+: 3; Sgl Mo(5); Asp by Ma(9, 8, Asp Me[4, 6, Asp 11, Cnj 5], Asp 4, Asp 5, Cnj 10); Asp 10; Cnj 4Starlord of Ke is Me: 4; 6; Asp by Ma(9, 8, Asp 4, Asp 5, Cnj 10); Asp 11; Cnj 5Planet Sa:Starlord of Sa is Mo*: 5Sublord of Sa is Ra+: 9; Sgl Sa(1, 10-11); Cnj Ma(9, 8, Asp Me[4, 6, Asp11, Cnj 5], Asp 4, Asp 5, Cnj 10); Asp 4; Cnj 10Starlord of Ra is Mo*: 5Planet Me: Cnj 5Starlord of Me is Ve: 5; 2Sublord of Me is Ra+: 9; Sgl Sa(1, 10-11); Cnj Ma(9, 8, Asp Me[4, 6, Asp11, Cnj 5], Asp 4, Asp 5, Cnj 10); Asp 4; Cnj 10Starlord of Ra is Mo*: 5 http://www.mykundali.com/ Chart[Andrzej Lepper, 13/06/1954, 01:00 AM (GMT + 1), 52N25, 16E55, KPNA 23:07:51, Asc Pi 25:42:07, Rahu Dasa bal 1Y:3M:23D (KPAstro 3.0)]Person Details Sex Male Date of birth 13 : 6 : 1954 Time of Birth 1 : 0 : 0 Day of birth Sunday Ishtkaal 053-46-20 Place of Birth Poland Country Poland Time Zone 1.0 Latitude 52 : 25 : N Longitude 16 : 55 : E Local Time 00.07.40 War Time Correction 00.00.00 LMT at Birth 00.52.19 GMT at Birth 0.00.00 Tithi Dvadasi Hindu Week Day Sutarday Paksha Shukla Yoga Siva Karan Baalav Sunrise 03.29.27 Sunset 20.14.49 Day Duration 16.45.22 Avkahada Chakra Paya (RasiBased) Loha Varna Kshatriya Yoni Mahis Gana Deva Vasya Manab Nadi End Balance Of Dasha RAHU 1 Y 3 M 28 D Lagna Pisces Lagna Lord Jup Rasi Libra Rasi Lord Ven Nakshatra-Pada Swati-4 Nakshatra Lord Rah Julian Day 2434907 SunSign(Indian) Taurus SunSign(Western) Gemini Ayanamsa 023-07-50 (KPNA) Ayanamsa Name KP Ayan Obliquity 023-26-42 Sideral Time 18.30.42 KP Planets & Cusps Balance Of Dasha : RAHU 1 Y 3 M 28 D Planets PLANETDEGREERAS-NAK-SUB-SSRet/Dir SUN 058-19-44 VEN-MAR-SAT-MER Direct MOON 199-01-01 VEN-RAH-MON-VEN Direct MARS 252-48-17 JUP-KET-MER-JUP Retrograde MERCURY 081-54-57 MER-JUP-SAT-SAT Direct JUPITER 071-13-34 MER-RAH-SAT-VEN Direct VENUS 091-17-03 MON-JUP-MAR-MON Direct SATURN 189-57-34 VEN-RAH-JUP-MON Retrograde RAHU 262-58-58 JUP-VEN-SAT-VEN Retrograde KETU 082-58-58 MER-JUP-SAT-SUN Retrograde URANUS 088-14-08 MER-JUP-VEN-SAT Direct NEPTUNE 180-17-51 VEN-MAR-MER-KET Retrograde PLUTO 119-43-59 MON-MER-SAT-JUP Direct Bhav CUSPDEGREERAS-NAK-SUB-SS 1 355-40-35 JUP-MER-RAH-VEN 2 035-42-16 VEN-SUN-MER-VEN 3 056-39-31 VEN-MAR-JUP-MER 4 073-55-09 MER-RAH-MER-JUP 5 092-27-05 MON-JUP-RAH-MER 6 119-12-47 MON-MER-SAT-MON 7 175-40-35 MER-MAR-RAH-VEN 8 215-42-16 MAR-SAT-MER-MER 9 236-39-31 MAR-MER-JUP-MER 10 253-55-09 JUP-VEN-VEN-MON 11 272-27-05 SAT-SUN-JUP-SUN 12 299-12-47 SAT-MAR-SAT-MON Planet Signification Planets Houses SUN 3 8 9 MOON 5 6 7 10 MARS 4 8 9 MERCURY 1 3 4 7 10 JUPITER 1 3 10 VENUS 1 2 3 4 10 SATURN 7 10 11 12 RAHU 2 3 4 10 KETU 1 3 4 10 Significators of Houses HousesPlanets I MERCURY JUPITER VENUS KETU II VENUS RAHU III SUN MERCURY JUPITER VENUS RAHU KETU IV MARS MERCURY VENUS RAHU KETU V MOON VI MOON VII MOON MERCURY SATURN VIII SUN MARS IX SUN MARS X MOON MERCURY JUPITER VENUS SATURN RAHU KETU XI SATURN XII SATURN , "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram wrote:>> Respected Tinwinji,> Sir,> If we employ 4-step method to workout the significators , Venus > becomes significator of the 5th house only! What does it indicate as > regards education? Saturn becomes significator of 5th, 8th and 9th > house. What should it mean when even primary education is not > indicated? > regards,> sujat. , "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sujatkaram ji,> > > > 20/09/71, 21:45 IST, Kalyan, 19N14, 73E07, KPNA 23:22:19, Asc Ta> > 01:39:26, Mo Dasa bal 6Y:0M:21D (KPAstro 3.0)> > 4CSL Ve(5,1-2), star Mo(5,4), sub Mo(5,4)> > 3 & 9CSL Sa(1,10-11), star Mo(5,4), sub Ra+(9,7,8,5,4,1,10,11)> > 11CSL Ju+(7, 9-12), star Sa(1,10-11), sub Ke+> (3,9,7,8,12,1,10,11,5,4)> > > > Clear indicators for higher education but not educated?> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > Person Details Sex Male Date of birth 20 : 9 : 1971 Time > of> > Birth 21 : 45 : 0 Day of birth Monday Ishtkaal 038-18-02 > > Place of Birth Kalyan Country India Time Zone 5.5 > Latitude > > 19 : 14 : N Longitude 73 : 7 : E Local Time 00.37.32 War > Time> > Correction 00.00.00 LMT at Birth 21.07.27 GMT at Birth > 1.00.00> > Tithi Pratipad Hindu Week Day Monday Paksha Shukla > Yoga > > Sukla Karan Bav Sunrise 06.25.47 Sunset 18.36.40 Day> > Duration 12.10.52> > > > Avkahada Chakra Paya (RasiBased) Rajat Varna Vaisya > Yoni > > Mahis Gana Deva Vasya Manab Nadi Start Balance Of> > Dasha MOON 6 Y 0 M 23 D Lagna Taurus Lagna Lord Ven > Rasi > > Virgo Rasi Lord Mer Nakshatra-Pada Hasta-2 Nakshatra > Lord > > Mon Julian Day 2441215 SunSign(Indian) Virgo SunSign> (Western)> > Virgo Ayanamsa 023-22-18 Ayanamsa Name KP New Ayanamsa> > Obliquity 023-26-34 Sideral Time 21.03.01> > > > KP Planets & Cusps Balance Of Dasha : MOON 6 Y 0 M 23 D > > Planets PLANET DEGREE RAS-NAK-SUB-SS Ret/Dir SUN 153-40-48 > > MER-SUN-SAT-KET Direct MOON 165-15-01 MER-MON-JUP-MON Direct > > MARS 289-20-41 SAT-MON-MER-JUP Direct MERCURY 139-14-53 > > SUN-VEN-RAH-MER Direct JUPITER 217-55-41 MAR-SAT-KET-SAT > Direct > > VENUS 160-09-24 MER-MON-MON-MAR Direct SATURN 043-11-56 > > VEN-MON-RAH-VEN Retrograde RAHU 288-40-21 SAT-MON-MER-MON > > Retrograde KETU 108-40-21 MON-MER-KET-VEN Retrograde URANUS > > 169-27-55 MER-MON-MER-SAT Direct NEPTUNE 217-19-19 MAR-SAT-> MER-SAT> > Direct PLUTO 156-04-26 MER-SUN-MER-MAR Direct Bhav > CUSP> > DEGREE RAS-NAK-SUB-SS 1 031-38-46 VEN-SUN-JUP-SAT 2 058-48-59 > > VEN-MAR-SAT-VEN 3 083-42-05 MER-JUP-SAT-JUP 4 109-55-10 > > MON-MER-VEN-MON 5 140-21-22 SUN-VEN-JUP-SAT 6 175-35-39 > > MER-MAR-RAH-VEN 7 211-38-46 MAR-JUP-RAH-JUP 8 238-48-59 > > MAR-MER-SAT-VEN 9 263-42-05 JUP-VEN-SAT-RAH 10 289-55-10 > > SAT-MON-KET-MON 11 320-21-22 SAT-JUP-JUP-SAT 12 355-35-39 > > JUP-MER-RAH-VEN> > > > > > Planet Signification Planets Houses SUN 5 MOON 4 5 MARS > 4 5> > 7 8 9 MERCURY 1 2 3 4 5 6 JUPITER 1 7 9 10 11 12 > VENUS> > 1 2 4 5 SATURN 1 4 5 10 11 RAHU 4 5 9 KETU 3 4 6> > Significators of Houses Houses Planets I MERCURY JUPITER > VENUS > > SATURN II MERCURY VENUS III MERCURY KETU IV MOON MARS > MERCURY > > VENUS SATURN RAHU KETU V SUN MOON MARS MERCURY VENUS > SATURN > > RAHU VI MERCURY KETU VII MARS JUPITER VIII MARS IX MARS > > JUPITER RAHU X JUPITER SATURN XI JUPITER SATURN XII JUPITER> > , "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram@> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Mr. Tinwinji,> > > Sir,> > > Kindly anylise the following chart for education and profession. > This> > > is a post-event study and you may undertake RBT if required. I > did my> > > best but could not match the events with my reading of the chart. > I> > > put this chart on shelf as an exception.> > > DB-- 20/09/71> > > TOB-- 21.45 hrs.> > > POB Kalyan.> > > regards,> > > sujatkaram , "tw853" tw853@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,> > > >> > > > 1. As mentioned before, I may be wrong by sticking to some > points> > > > other than over all view as you've done by taking into account > of> > > his> > > > own effort shown by 1st house signification. Line of education > or> > > > profession is a very difficult task. 3CSL Me indicates the boy's> > > > interest which is different from the indication by 4CSL Ma. More> > > > detailed study will need in this regard.> > > >> > > > 2. As per my understanding, 8, 12 = break in education; 3,5,8 => > > > failure or end of education (not good end); 4,9,11 = completion > of> > > > education (getting a degree). Some takes 3, 12 = break in > education.> > > > In a book recommended by some as classic, it is taken 3,8 (12 to> > > 4,9)> > > > = completion of education (getting a degree).> > > >> > > > 3. For break in education, the following charts are worthy to > study.> > > >> > > > 1) Dr. BV Raman, 8 August 1912, 19:43 PM IST, Bangalore, 12N59,> > > 77E35,> > > > NKPA 22:32:49, Asc Aq 10:39:20, Mars Dasa bal 6Y:9M;6D (KPAstro> > > 3.0);> > > > 1-07-1928 (Ra-Me-Mo DBA) attended college (4,9,11 > signification);> > > > after Dec 1928 (Ra-Me-Ra) left the college to help his grand > father> > > > (3,5,8,12 signification); 1-07-1931 (861) rejoined the college > again> > > > under grand father's pressure by half by half assistance of > grand> > > > father and father in law; March 1935 (Ra-Ma-Ra) obtained B.Sc.> > > (4,9,11> > > > signification)> > > >> > > > 2) Dhirubhai Ambani, 28 Dec 1932, 6:37 AM IST, Chorwad, 21N01,> > > 70E14,> > > > NKPA 22:49:53, Asc Sg 01:25:31, Venus 8Y;2M:8D (KPAstro 3.0); > After> > > > Matriculation at 16 (Moon/Rahu dasa period) left for Aden to > work> > > and> > > > learn business (8,12,3,5,9,6,11 signification).> > > >> > > > 3) Male, 30 Jan 1983, 03:00 AM IST, Trichur, 10N31, 76E31, NKPA> > > > 23:31:50, Asc Sc 20:40:32, Mercury Dasa bal 0Y:7M;13D; 1988 to > 2002> > > > (Ve-Ra to Ve-Ju DB) break in education (3,5,8,12 signification)> > > > (Education and Saturn, KPEzine Sept 2008)> > > >> > > > 4. For the boy, Dasa lord Ra signifies 8, 5 as well as 4,9 and > the> > > > Bhuktis may not be so bad each self.> > > >> > > > Good luck!> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@>> > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mr.Tin Winji,> > > > >> > > > > Many thanks for your reply about the boy. I have tried my > best to> > > > analyse it according to my knowledge. It may look like my > wishful> > > > thinking. The boy is my grandson. Actual position is that he is> > > > scoring good marks in examn., he is good at Science and Maths. > As it> > > > is no laxity in his studies. He is interested in Engg. side > only and> > > > not interested in Medl. God only knows what is in his store. You> > > know> > > > well that no 2 Astrologers will give same opinion. I have full> > > regard> > > > for you. My fear was that he is running Rahu MD for another 6 > years> > > or> > > > so. Whether he will have interruption in his studies due to> > > sickness> > > > or other reasons.> > > > >> > > > > With regards,> > > > >> > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > -> > > > > tw853> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:42 PM> > > > > Re: Line of education and profession.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ramani ji,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Pl see comment below.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > tw> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 1. Chart Details> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Male, 24 Jul 1995, Monday; 20-14 PM IST, 13 N 06, 80 E 12, > NKPA> > > > 23-42-18, Asc Aq 04-18-05, Nars Dasa bal 1Y-4M-14D (KPAstro 3.0)> > > > >> > > > > 2. Favorable and Unfavorable Houses> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Generally 4 & 9 represent education mainly and 6 denotes > success> > > > in education. Hence 12 (Vrya) to these houses viz. 3,8,5 are> > > therefore> > > > detrimental to education. In addition, 11 is for success and 12> > > > indicates failure, defect. So 4,9,6,11 are .favorable houses > and> > > > 3,8,5,12 are unfavorable houses for success in education.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 3. Main Houses> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 4 (lower education) CSL Ma(7, 3-10) is in the star of Su(6, > 7)> > > and> > > > in the sub of Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and > becoming a> > > > strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of > these> > > > cusps (as per K.M. Subramanium, Vaikari Ramamurthy, Kuppu > Ganapathi,> > > > Kanak Bosmia and others). Ma does not signify 4, 11, especially > 9> > > but> > > > connected to 4,9 by the sub. Connection to 3,5,8 is undesirable.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 9 (higher education) CSL Me+(5, 5-8) is in the star and sub > of> > > > Sa(1, 1-12). No planet is in the star of Me+, which is the > sublord> > > of> > > > cusps 3,9 and becomes a strong significator of> > > > >> > > > > these houses. Me signifies 9 but not the essential 11. And> > > 5,8,12> > > > signification is undesirable.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 4. Supporting Houses> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 3 (inclination to study, mental concentration, writing> > > > examination) CSL Me+(5, 5-8) is in the star and sub of Sa(1, 1-> 12).> > > No> > > > planet is in the star of Me+, which is the sublord of cusps > 3,9 and> > > > becomes a strong significator of these houses. 5,8,12 > signification> > > is> > > > undesirable.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 11 (success in education) Ra(8) is own star and sub of Ra(8)> > > whose> > > > signlord Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and becoming a> > > strong> > > > significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of these > cusps.> > > 4,9> > > > signification is favorable for lower and higher education. But> > > > >> > > > > 8,5 signification is undesirable.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 1CSL Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and becoming a> > > strong> > > > significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of these > cusps.> > > Ve+> > > > is in the star of Ju(10, 2-11) and sub of Mo+(4, 6) having no > planet> > > > in its star and being the sublord of cusps 7,10. Ve's 4,9,10,11> > > > signification is favorable for lower and higher education. But > 5,8> > > > signification is undesirable.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 2 (Vaksthane/Vidhya, speech) CSL Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet > in> > > its> > > > star and becoming a strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by > being the> > > > sublord of these cusps. Ve+ is in the star of Ju(10, 2-11) and > sub> > > of> > > > Mo+(4, 6) having no planet in its star and being the sublord of> > > cusps> > > > 7,10. Ve's 4,9,10,11 signification is favorable for lower and> > > higher> > > > education. But 5,8 signification is undesirable.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 5 (intellectual capacity) CSL Ra(8) is own star and sub of > Ra(8)> > > > whose signlord Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and > becoming a> > > > strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the sublord of > these> > > > cusps. 4,9 signification is favorable for lower and higher> > > education.> > > > But 8,5 signification is undesirable.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 5. Vidya Karaka> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Me+(5, 5-8) is in the star and sub of Sa(1, 1-12). No > planet is> > > in> > > > the star of Me+, which is the sublord of cusps 3,9 and becomes a> > > > strong significator of these houses.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 6. Running Dasa> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Running Dasa (till 08 Dec 2014) is Ra(8) is own star and > sub of> > > > Ra(8) whose signlord Ve+(5, 4-9) with no planet in its star and> > > > becoming a strong significator of houses 1,2,8 by being the > sublord> > > of> > > > these cusps. 4,9 signification is favorable for lower and higher> > > > education. But 8,5 signification is undesirable.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 7. Conclusion> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > It may be difficult to get higher education on the basis of > the> > > > indication of especially 3,4,9 cusps and Rahu Dasa. Of course it> > > will> > > > vary depending on one's judgment and no strong view in this> > > regard.If> > > > got higher education, 4CSL Ma generally favors the medical line.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Good luck!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "Ramani" > <kadavasalramani@>> > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Tin Winji/Dr.Luther Rath/members,> > > > > >> > > > > > I have now attached my own observation for your kind > perusal> > > and> > > > comments. The omission of the attachment with my previous mail > is> > > > regretted.> > > > > >> > > > > > With regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > > -> > > > > > tw853> > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, November 03, 2008 6:17 AM> > > > > > Re: Line of education and > profession.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ramani ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > No comment as I can't read any attachment.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > tw> > > > > >> > > > > > , "Venkataramani KS"> > > > > > kadavasalramani@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Tin Winji> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > In continuation of my mail on receipt of your views on > the> > > > chart of> > > > > > the boy,> > > > > > > I am attaching my own observation for your kind > perusal. If> > > my> > > > view is> > > > > > > incorrect, kindly correct me with reason.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Luther Rath rathluther@> > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > > > > > > > Good Morning.> > > > > > > > I use Jagannath Hora 7.2 advocated my many of the > members.> > > > Kindly> > > > > > send your> > > > > > > > observations. I don't think I can be able to find out > any> > > > error in> > > > > > your> > > > > > > > observations. Interpritations by two persons will> > > definitely> > > > > > differ. That> > > > > > > > cannot be called an error. By examining the > jusifications> > > we may> > > > > > try to> > > > > > > > compromise and may reach to a consensus. I am > prepared to> > > > agree to> > > > > > my errors> > > > > > > > if any. It will help us to learn and refine our> > > presdictions.> > > > > > > > Thanking you.> > > > > > > > With regards.> > > > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > > > > ** Ramani kadavasalramani@> > > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Friday, October 31, 2008 11:45:27 AM> > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Line of education and> > > profession.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Ratth,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am very much thankful to you for your fine analysis > of> > > the> > > > chart> > > > > > sent by> > > > > > > > me. I am using KP ASTRO 3.0 SW and there is slight> > > > differences in> > > > > > SSL & > > > > > > > > SSSL. May I know what SW you are having pl.? I am > sending> > > my own> > > > > > analysis> > > > > > > > for your> > > > > > > > kind perusal in a few days. If you find the result of > my> > > view is> > > > > > wrong, Irequest you to please point out for my incorrect> > > > > > > > observation and where I have erred. It is only for my> > > learning> > > > > > purpose and> > > > > > > > not to challenge your views pl> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani.> > > > > > > > observation --> > > > > > > > Original Message -----> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ** Luther Rath rathluther@> > > > > > > > *To:* @gro ups.com> > > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:04 PM> > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Line of education and> > > profession.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > > > > > > > Namaskar.> > > > > > > > Kindly see the attached file for the prediction > regarding> > > > > > education and> > > > > > > > profession of your son. Kindly reply.> > > > > > > > With due regards.> > > > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > > > > ** Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > > kadavasalramani@>> > > > > > > > *To:* @gro ups.com> > > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:07:12 PM> > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Line of education and> > > profession.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Mr.Tin Winji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am extremely sorry that the date of birth of the > boy was> > > > erroneously> > > > > > > > indicated by slip. The correct date of birth of the > boy> > > is 24th> > > > > > July, 1995> > > > > > > > Monday (he has completed 13 years of age & is running> > > 14th year> > > > > > studying in> > > > > > > > 9th Class in a reputed school at Chennai). Other> > > particulars> > > > Time> > > > > > of Birth,> > > > > > > > Place of Birth etc. are correct.> > > > > > > > TOB 20-14 IST; POB Chennai Mambalam Long.13-4 (N)> > > > > > > > (GC)- Lat.80-17(E) Ayanamsa 23-42-26 (NKP) generated> > > > > > > > from KP Astro 3.0. I earnestly request you to examine> > > > > > > > the chart on the lines requested by me in my previous> > > mail..> > > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > -> > > > > > > > ** Luther Rath rathluther@> > > > > > > > *To:* @gro ups.com> > > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:15 AM> > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Line of education and> > > profession.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Ramaniji,> > > > > > > > Good Morning.> > > > > > > > The boy concerned was born in the yearof 1965 as> > > mentioned.> > > > Is that> > > > > > > > correct. If it is right he has already attained age > of 43> > > > > > years.Where comes> > > > > > > > the question of education now. Do you want to have a> > > > retrospective> > > > > > analysis?> > > > > > > > Kindly clerify.> > > > > > > > With regards.> > > > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > > > > ** Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > > kadavasalramani@>> > > > > > > > *To:* @gro ups.com> > > > > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2002 3:31:50 PM> > > > > > > > *Subject:* Line of education and > profession.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dr.Luther Rath/Tin Winji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > There is difference of opinion between 2 KP followers > reg.> > > > line of> > > > > > > > education and profession in respect of the following> > > chart. I> > > > > > request you> > > > > > > > kindly to give your valued opinion :> > > > > > > > (1) Boy's Education prospects; (2) whether it relates > to> > > > > > > > professional education or otherwise; (3) If it > relates to> > > > > > profession, what> > > > > > > > line (Medl. or Engg. etc); (4) whether he> > > > > > > > can get higher ediucation without any interruption.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Male: DOB 24-7-1965 Monday; TOB 20-14 (8-144 PM)> > > > > > > > POB Lat.13(N)-6' ' Long.80-12(E) ; KP Ayanamsa 23-42-> 18.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanking you,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Astrologically yours,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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