Attn Respected Sunil Gondhalekar ji Rahu / Ketu in 4 Step Theory

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Dear Sunil ji -

 

I've a doubt regarding signification of Rahu/Ketu in 4step theory. Please clarify. I'm sorry if it has been discussed earlier in this forum and I missed.

 

In one of your articles I found the below rule -

Rahu/Ketu have been given more importance in KP. Prof. Krishnamurthi has said that Rahu/Ketu will first give results of the planet(s) conjoined, secondly the planet(s) aspecting them, next of their star lord and lastly that of the sign lord where they are stationed.

In Four Step Theory, whenever Rahu/Ketu appear as star lord (i.e. on steps 2 and 4) similar results are experienced. If Rahu/Ketu are conjoined or aspected by any planet, the sign lord where Rahu/Ketu are deposited will not be effective in offering results.

 

In some other place you mentioned -

Rahu/Ketu offers results of its starlord when they are on 2nd and 4th step.

 

Please correct me if my understanding is wrong -

 

As per 4-Step Theory, if Rahu/Ketu appears as a planet or a sub-lord (step1 & step3), planets conjoined with Rahu/Ketu, aspecting Rahu/Ketu, and their (Rahu/Ketu's) sign lords - have to be considered.

 

But if Rahu/Ketu appears to be star lords of a planet or a sub-lord (step2 & step4), planets conjoined with Rahu/Ketu, aspecting Rahu/Ketu, their (Rahu/Ketu's) star lords - have to be considered.

 

In both the above cases, the cusps Rahu/Ketu are conjoing with and the cusps they (Rahu/Ketu) are aspecting, should also be considered as primary significations (just like other planets).

 

Here I've a question - say for example

 

Ketu is in 3rd (Please note: planets are present in Ketu's star), conjoins 4th cusp (within 3 deg orb) and it aspects 10th cusp;

Ketu's sign lord Saturn is in 11th, owning empty houses 4th and 5th and Saturn conjoins Jupiter (no planets in star of Jupiter) which is in 11th cusp, owns 3rd and 6th cusp;

Ketu's star lord is Moon, which is in 6th cusp, owning empty 10th cusp and conjoins 7th cusp, aspects 1st cusp and Mercury (which is in 12th, owning 9 & 12)

 

As a planet (step 1 & 3), Ketu would signify as -

Planet Ketu : 3 - 4P (cusp conj.) - 10P (cusp asp.); SgnL Saturn (11 - 4e - 5e) Conj. Jupiter (11P - 3 -6);

 

As Ketu is primary significator of 4th and 10th by conjunction and aspect, do Saturn (11P-4eP-5eP) and Jupiter (11P) will act as primary significator too? i.e. in the first step, would Ketu primarily signify 4,10,11,4,5,11? Will it also signify the cusps AND planets conjuct/aspected by Saturn and Jupiter (if any within orb)? Say this Jupiter aspects 3rd cusp and Mars thru 9th aspect within orb of 3deg and Mars is in 7th cusp owning 2nd and 7th (both empty) - then will Ketu signify all these houses primarily? Upto what level we need to continue?

 

As a star lord of another planet (step 2 & 4), Ketu would signify as -

Star Lord Ketu : 3 - 4P (cusp conj.) - 10P (cusp asp.); StrL Moon (6 - 10e - 7P - 1P) Asp. Mercury (12 - 9 -12)

i.e. Ketu signifies 4,10,6,10,7,1,12 - am I correct? As mentioned for step1 & 3, if Mercury conjoins Venus who is in 12th and owns 1st and 8th - should Venus be also considered? How far we need to go in this process?

 

Please help me out.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Regards & Best Wishes,ANTARIKSH

 

 

 

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dear ANTARIKSHA,

i am busy with my diwali magazine work and will reply you by 24th

kindly bear with me.

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-sunil gondhalekar

On 10/19/08, *** ANTARIKSH *** <antariksh_80 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunil ji -

 

I've a doubt regarding signification of Rahu/Ketu in 4step theory. Please clarify. I'm sorry if it has been discussed earlier in this forum and I missed.

 

In one of your articles I found the below rule -

Rahu/Ketu have been given more importance in KP. Prof. Krishnamurthi has said that Rahu/Ketu will first give results of the planet(s) conjoined, secondly the planet(s) aspecting them, next of their star lord and lastly that of the sign lord where they are stationed.

In Four Step Theory, whenever Rahu/Ketu appear as star lord (i.e. on steps 2 and 4) similar results are experienced. If Rahu/Ketu are conjoined or aspected by any planet, the sign lord where Rahu/Ketu are deposited will not be effective in offering results.

 

In some other place you mentioned -

Rahu/Ketu offers results of its starlord when they are on 2nd and 4th step.

 

Please correct me if my understanding is wrong -

 

As per 4-Step Theory, if Rahu/Ketu appears as a planet or a sub-lord (step1 & step3), planets conjoined with Rahu/Ketu, aspecting Rahu/Ketu, and their (Rahu/Ketu's) sign lords - have to be considered.

 

But if Rahu/Ketu appears to be star lords of a planet or a sub-lord (step2 & step4), planets conjoined with Rahu/Ketu, aspecting Rahu/Ketu, their (Rahu/Ketu's) star lords - have to be considered.

 

In both the above cases, the cusps Rahu/Ketu are conjoing with and the cusps they (Rahu/Ketu) are aspecting, should also be considered as primary significations (just like other planets).

 

Here I've a question - say for example

 

Ketu is in 3rd (Please note: planets are present in Ketu's star), conjoins 4th cusp (within 3 deg orb) and it aspects 10th cusp;

Ketu's sign lord Saturn is in 11th, owning empty houses 4th and 5th and Saturn conjoins Jupiter (no planets in star of Jupiter) which is in 11th cusp, owns 3rd and 6th cusp;

Ketu's star lord is Moon, which is in 6th cusp, owning empty 10th cusp and conjoins 7th cusp, aspects 1st cusp and Mercury (which is in 12th, owning 9 & 12)

 

As a planet (step 1 & 3), Ketu would signify as -

Planet Ketu : 3 - 4P (cusp conj.) - 10P (cusp asp.); SgnL Saturn (11 - 4e - 5e) Conj. Jupiter (11P - 3 -6);

 

As Ketu is primary significator of 4th and 10th by conjunction and aspect, do Saturn (11P-4eP-5eP) and Jupiter (11P) will act as primary significator too? i.e. in the first step, would Ketu primarily signify 4,10,11,4,5,11? Will it also signify the cusps AND planets conjuct/aspected by Saturn and Jupiter (if any within orb)? Say this Jupiter aspects 3rd cusp and Mars thru 9th aspect within orb of 3deg and Mars is in 7th cusp owning 2nd and 7th (both empty) - then will Ketu signify all these houses primarily? Upto what level we need to continue?

 

As a star lord of another planet (step 2 & 4), Ketu would signify as -

Star Lord Ketu : 3 - 4P (cusp conj.) - 10P (cusp asp.); StrL Moon (6 - 10e - 7P - 1P) Asp. Mercury (12 - 9 -12)

i.e. Ketu signifies 4,10,6,10,7,1,12 - am I correct? As mentioned for step1 & 3, if Mercury conjoins Venus who is in 12th and owns 1st and 8th - should Venus be also considered? How far we need to go in this process?

 

Please help me out.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Regards & Best Wishes,

ANTARIKSH

 

 

 

 

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Regards & Best Wishes,ANTARIKSH

 

 

 

sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 5:44:33 PMRe: Attn Respected Sunil Gondhalekar ji >> Rahu / Ketu in 4 Step Theory

 

 

dear ANTARIKSHA,

i am busy with my diwali magazine work and will reply you by 24th

kindly bear with me.

thanks

-sunil gondhalekar

On 10/19/08, *** ANTARIKSH *** <antariksh_80@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunil ji -

 

I've a doubt regarding signification of Rahu/Ketu in 4step theory. Please clarify. I'm sorry if it has been discussed earlier in this forum and I missed.

 

In one of your articles I found the below rule -

Rahu/Ketu have been given more importance in KP. Prof. Krishnamurthi has said that Rahu/Ketu will first give results of the planet(s) conjoined, secondly the planet(s) aspecting them, next of their star lord and lastly that of the sign lord where they are stationed.

In Four Step Theory, whenever Rahu/Ketu appear as star lord (i.e. on steps 2 and 4) similar results are experienced. If Rahu/Ketu are conjoined or aspected by any planet, the sign lord where Rahu/Ketu are deposited will not be effective in offering results.

 

In some other place you mentioned -

Rahu/Ketu offers results of its starlord when they are on 2nd and 4th step.

 

Please correct me if my understanding is wrong -

 

As per 4-Step Theory, if Rahu/Ketu appears as a planet or a sub-lord (step1 & step3), planets conjoined with Rahu/Ketu, aspecting Rahu/Ketu, and their (Rahu/Ketu's) sign lords - have to be considered.

 

But if Rahu/Ketu appears to be star lords of a planet or a sub-lord (step2 & step4), planets conjoined with Rahu/Ketu, aspecting Rahu/Ketu, their (Rahu/Ketu's) star lords - have to be considered.

 

In both the above cases, the cusps Rahu/Ketu are conjoing with and the cusps they (Rahu/Ketu) are aspecting, should also be considered as primary significations (just like other planets).

 

Here I've a question - say for example

 

Ketu is in 3rd (Please note: planets are present in Ketu's star), conjoins 4th cusp (within 3 deg orb) and it aspects 10th cusp;

Ketu's sign lord Saturn is in 11th, owning empty houses 4th and 5th and Saturn conjoins Jupiter (no planets in star of Jupiter) which is in 11th cusp, owns 3rd and 6th cusp;

Ketu's star lord is Moon, which is in 6th cusp, owning empty 10th cusp and conjoins 7th cusp, aspects 1st cusp and Mercury (which is in 12th, owning 9 & 12)

 

As a planet (step 1 & 3), Ketu would signify as -

Planet Ketu : 3 - 4P (cusp conj.) - 10P (cusp asp.); SgnL Saturn (11 - 4e - 5e) Conj. Jupiter (11P - 3 -6);

 

As Ketu is primary significator of 4th and 10th by conjunction and aspect, do Saturn (11P-4eP-5eP) and Jupiter (11P) will act as primary significator too? i.e. in the first step, would Ketu primarily signify 4,10,11,4,5, 11? Will it also signify the cusps AND planets conjuct/aspected by Saturn and Jupiter (if any within orb)? Say this Jupiter aspects 3rd cusp and Mars thru 9th aspect within orb of 3deg and Mars is in 7th cusp owning 2nd and 7th (both empty) - then will Ketu signify all these houses primarily? Upto what level we need to continue?

 

As a star lord of another planet (step 2 & 4), Ketu would signify as -

Star Lord Ketu : 3 - 4P (cusp conj.) - 10P (cusp asp.); StrL Moon (6 - 10e - 7P - 1P) Asp. Mercury (12 - 9 -12)

i.e. Ketu signifies 4,10,6,10,7, 1,12 - am I correct? As mentioned for step1 & 3, if Mercury conjoins Venus who is in 12th and owns 1st and 8th - should Venus be also considered? How far we need to go in this process?

 

Please help me out.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Regards & Best Wishes,ANTARIKSH

 

 

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my replies are as follows

-sunil gondhalekar

 

, *** ANTARIKSH ***

<antariksh_80 wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil ji -

>  

> I've a doubt regarding signification of Rahu/Ketu in 4step theory.

Please clarify. I'm sorry if it has been discussed earlier in this

forum and I missed.

>  

> In one of your articles I found the below rule -

> Rahu/Ketu have been given more importance in KP. Prof.

Krishnamurthi has said that Rahu/Ketu will first give results of the

planet(s) conjoined, secondly the planet(s) aspecting them, next of

their star lord and lastly that of the sign lord where they are

stationed.

reply:yes,it is correct.

 

> In Four Step Theory, whenever Rahu/Ketu appear as star lord (i.e.

on steps 2 and 4) similar results are experienced. If Rahu/Ketu are

conjoined or aspected by any planet, the sign lord where Rahu/Ketu

are deposited will not be effective in offering results.

> reply:yes,it is observed in many cases.

pl.dont ask the percentages.

 

> In some other place you mentioned -

> Rahu/Ketu offers results of its starlord when they are on 2nd and

4th step.

> reply:this is also correct,but node's signlord dont offer results

as mentioned previously.

 

> Please correct me if my understanding is wrong -

>  

> As per 4-Step Theory, if Rahu/Ketu appears as a planet or a sub-

lord (step1 & step3), planets conjoined with Rahu/Ketu, aspecting

Rahu/Ketu, and their (Rahu/Ketu's) sign lords  - have to be

considered.

> reply:we will have to consider if there are planets or no planets

in star of nodes.in each case results will be different.

 

> But if Rahu/Ketu appears to be star lords of a planet or a sub-

lord (step2 & step4), planets conjoined with Rahu/Ketu, aspecting

Rahu/Ketu, their (Rahu/Ketu's) star lords - have to be considered.

> reply:already mentioned

 

> In both the above cases, the cusps Rahu/Ketu are conjoing with and

the cusps they (Rahu/Ketu) are aspecting, should also be considered

as primary significations (just like other planets).

> if nodes are the starlord of any planet,then only aspect is

considered.

 

> Here I've a question - say for example

>  

> Ketu is in 3rd (Please note: planets are present in Ketu's star),

conjoins 4th cusp (within 3 deg orb) and it aspects 10th cusp;

reply:in this case ketu will offer only 4th house results and not of

10th.

 

> Ketu's sign lord Saturn is in 11th, owning empty houses 4th and

5th and Saturn conjoins Jupiter (no planets in star of Jupiter)

which is in 11th cusp, owns 3rd and 6th cusp;

reply:mainly ketu is secondary planet so all other factors will not

be attracted.

 

> Ketu's star lord is Moon, which is in 6th cusp, owning empty 10th

cusp and conjoins 7th cusp, aspects 1st cusp and Mercury (which is

in 12th, owning 9 & 12)

> reply:now ketu will offer results of 6and 7 and 1 also,if aspect

to mercury in orb,then offer results of 12 and if 9th house in empty

then 9 also.

 

> As a planet (step 1 & 3), Ketu would signify as -

> Planet Ketu : 3 - 4P (cusp conj.) - 10P (cusp asp.); SgnL Saturn

(11 - 4e - 5e) Conj. Jupiter (11P - 3 -6);

> reply:as mentioned earlier ketu will offer only 4th house

signification on 1st step

 

> As Ketu is primary significator of 4th and 10th by conjunction and

aspect, do Saturn (11P-4eP-5eP) and Jupiter (11P) will act as

primary significator too? i.e. in the first step, would Ketu

primarily signify 4,10,11,4,5,11? Will it also signify the cusps AND

planets conjuct/aspected by Saturn and Jupiter (if any within orb)?

Say this Jupiter aspects 3rd cusp and Mars thru 9th aspect within

orb of 3deg and Mars is in 7th cusp owning 2nd and 7th (both empty) -

then will Ketu signify all these houses primarily? Upto what level

we need to continue?

>  reply:better put one example,then only your queries can be solved.

 

> As a star lord of another planet (step 2 & 4), Ketu would signify

as -

> Star Lord Ketu : 3 - 4P (cusp conj.) - 10P (cusp asp.); StrL Moon

(6 - 10e - 7P - 1P) Asp. Mercury (12 - 9 -12)

> i.e. Ketu signifies 4,10,6,10,7,1,12 - am I correct?

reply:if mercury aspects ketu then all houses will be indicated.

As mentioned for step1 & 3, if Mercury conjoins Venus who is in

12th and owns 1st and 8th - should Venus be also considered? How far

we need to go in this process?

>  reply:all these are arbitrary cases,better to have a sample one.

so i will answer you correctly.

> Please help me out.

>  

> Thanks in advance!

>  

> Regards & Best Wishes,

> ANTARIKSH

>

>

>

>

>

>

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If a chart details are given, the 4 step primary significators will

be instantly provided by KPAsro 3.0 according to the 4 step book.

 

 

> reply:all these are arbitrary cases,better to have a sample one.

so i will answer you correctly.

 

 

, " sunilalaka " <sunilalaka

wrote:

>

> dear antariksh

> my replies are as follows

> -sunil gondhalekar

>

> , *** ANTARIKSH ***

> <antariksh_80@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunil ji -

> >  

> > I've a doubt regarding signification of Rahu/Ketu in 4step

theory.

> Please clarify. I'm sorry if it has been discussed earlier in this

> forum and I missed.

> >  

> > In one of your articles I found the below rule -

> > Rahu/Ketu have been given more importance in KP. Prof.

> Krishnamurthi has said that Rahu/Ketu will first give results of

the

> planet(s) conjoined, secondly the planet(s) aspecting them, next of

> their star lord and lastly that of the sign lord where they are

> stationed.

> reply:yes,it is correct.

>

> > In Four Step Theory, whenever Rahu/Ketu appear as star lord (i.e.

> on steps 2 and 4) similar results are experienced. If Rahu/Ketu are

> conjoined or aspected by any planet, the sign lord where Rahu/Ketu

> are deposited will not be effective in offering results.

> > reply:yes,it is observed in many cases.

> pl.dont ask the percentages.

>  

> > In some other place you mentioned -

> > Rahu/Ketu offers results of its starlord when they are on 2nd and

> 4th step.

> > reply:this is also correct,but node's signlord dont offer results

> as mentioned previously.

>  

> > Please correct me if my understanding is wrong -

> >  

> > As per 4-Step Theory, if Rahu/Ketu appears as a planet or a sub-

> lord (step1 & step3), planets conjoined with Rahu/Ketu, aspecting

> Rahu/Ketu, and their (Rahu/Ketu's) sign lords  - have to be

> considered.

> > reply:we will have to consider if there are planets or no planets

> in star of nodes.in each case results will be different.

>  

> > But if Rahu/Ketu appears to be star lords of a planet or a sub-

> lord (step2 & step4), planets conjoined with Rahu/Ketu, aspecting

> Rahu/Ketu, their (Rahu/Ketu's) star lords - have to be considered.

> > reply:already mentioned

>  

> > In both the above cases, the cusps Rahu/Ketu are conjoing with

and

> the cusps they (Rahu/Ketu) are aspecting, should also be considered

> as primary significations (just like other planets).

> > if nodes are the starlord of any planet,then only aspect is

> considered.

>  

> > Here I've a question - say for example

> >  

> > Ketu is in 3rd (Please note: planets are present in Ketu's star),

> conjoins 4th cusp (within 3 deg orb) and it aspects 10th cusp;

> reply:in this case ketu will offer only 4th house results and not

of

> 10th.

>

> > Ketu's sign lord Saturn is in 11th, owning empty houses 4th and

> 5th and Saturn conjoins Jupiter (no planets in star of Jupiter)

> which is in 11th cusp, owns 3rd and 6th cusp;

> reply:mainly ketu is secondary planet so all other factors will not

> be attracted.

>

> > Ketu's star lord is Moon, which is in 6th cusp, owning empty 10th

> cusp and conjoins 7th cusp, aspects 1st cusp and Mercury (which is

> in 12th, owning 9 & 12)

> > reply:now ketu will offer results of 6and 7 and 1 also,if aspect

> to mercury in orb,then offer results of 12 and if 9th house in

empty

> then 9 also.

>  

> > As a planet (step 1 & 3), Ketu would signify as -

> > Planet Ketu : 3 - 4P (cusp conj.) - 10P (cusp asp.); SgnL Saturn

> (11 - 4e - 5e) Conj. Jupiter (11P - 3 -6);

> > reply:as mentioned earlier ketu will offer only 4th house

> signification on 1st step

>  

> > As Ketu is primary significator of 4th and 10th by conjunction

and

> aspect, do Saturn (11P-4eP-5eP) and Jupiter (11P) will act as

> primary significator too? i.e. in the first step, would Ketu

> primarily signify 4,10,11,4,5,11? Will it also signify the cusps

AND

> planets conjuct/aspected by Saturn and Jupiter (if any within orb)?

> Say this Jupiter aspects 3rd cusp and Mars thru 9th aspect within

> orb of 3deg and Mars is in 7th cusp owning 2nd and 7th (both

empty) -

> then will Ketu signify all these houses primarily? Upto what level

> we need to continue?

> >  reply:better put one example,then only your queries can be

solved.

>

> > As a star lord of another planet (step 2 & 4), Ketu would signify

> as -

> > Star Lord Ketu : 3 - 4P (cusp conj.) - 10P (cusp asp.); StrL Moon

> (6 - 10e - 7P - 1P) Asp. Mercury (12 - 9 -12)

> > i.e. Ketu signifies 4,10,6,10,7,1,12 - am I correct?

> reply:if mercury aspects ketu then all houses will be indicated.

> As mentioned for step1 & 3, if Mercury conjoins Venus who is in

> 12th and owns 1st and 8th - should Venus be also considered? How

far

> we need to go in this process?

> >  reply:all these are arbitrary cases,better to have a sample one.

> so i will answer you correctly.

> > Please help me out.

> >  

> > Thanks in advance!

> >  

> > Regards & Best Wishes,

> > ANTARIKSH

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>