Badhaka - What is the best position ? MARS DOSHA

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, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Dear all,

>

> No planet is good or bad. They behave benefic or malefic only as per

> what they are supposed to give us , as per our purva karmas.

>

> Giving justice to Mars, I would say that without a averagely strong

> Mars, one will have difficulty in creation or procreation. The

> agression of Mars, is certainly necessary in the right levels , for

one

> to copulate.

>

> Karma ( Action ) is denoted by Mangala. Remember where does the

Mars

> get exalted in the natural Kundli ? In the 10th house of Saturn,

> Capricorn. Saturn certainly loves to reward those who do their

Karmas

> properly through its ownership pf the 11th, Aquarius. Karma brings

> welfare. karma is kartavya. Without fulfilling ones Kartavya (

Duties )

> one cannot be happy in life.

>

> Wherever one finds dispute in land, property, loss of affinity with

> brother or wife, the result is due to amangala.

>

> A shubh Mangal is " Rinantaka " or tne ender of rins ( Debts ).

Shubh

> mangala is related to earthly possessions and stands for everything

> produced from the earth ( Bhoomi).

>

> Karma connotes to the idea of 'sangram'. For instance challenge of

> Life. Karma arises from " Kama " . Under tamoguna ( Tamo

nakshatras )

> it will lead to blind impulsive actions, bloodsheds, might to win,

> actions to yield power etc.

>

> An ashubha mangal represents obstructions to fulfillment of Kama.

It

> denotes loss or seperation from wife or husband, imcompatibilities

in

> relations, partner, and not in good relations with brothers.

>

> Remember that the 8th house is denoted by the Sign Scorpio owned by

> Mars, a highly mystical and sexual sign , denoting secrecy .

Therefore

> Mars, is certainly related to Sex, but pure or clandestine, open or

> secret, with wife or with paramour, powerful or powerless, will all

> depend on the strength or affliction of Mars.

>

> Therefore as such Mars cannot be ruled out for happiness in a

married

> couples Life, and the knowledge which comes from the traditional

Rishi

> Munis , is without doubt, a great treasure for us.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

, " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected members,

> > Sir,

> > As a student of astrology I would like to offer my comments on

> > this topic.Let all of us clearly understand that these are

thoughts

> > of a student and so might be immature.

> > Mars is considered a symbol of physical voilence, aggression -both

> > physical as well as psycological- and to a great degree represents

> > lack of tender emotions. In married life these characteristics are

> > undesirable as those are likely to ruin the marriage.

> > 12th house stands for shaiyya-sukha, 1st house for one,s

> > nature/character,4th house for happiness at home and homely

affairs,

> > 7th and 8th houses for sex-related matters.All these houses can be

> > spoiled by Mars, its characteristics are not conducive to these

> > houses. This, I believe, must be the reason why we call it Mars,

> > Dosha.

> > In traditional astrology it is considered that a planet

> > strongly gives " Phalams " of the house it occupies, and so Mars is

not

> > desired in these houses.

> > I have not read the " Readers. " Has our revered Guruji anywhere

> > said that MarsDosha does not exist?

> > In my opinion, in KP, only the method of judging the Mars,

> > Dosha may differ.We consider that a planet strongly gives results

of

> > its Starlord. So the positions in which mars happens to be a

strong

> > significator of the above houses should be considered similar to

mars

> > dosha.

> > Comments and corrections from veterans and students alike are

> > welcome.

> > regards,

> > sujat. , " Bhaskar "

> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,

> > >

> > > You are right partly. But in traditional astrology too, there

are

> > many

> > > rules for Dosha bhanga, but in this busy world most of the

> > astrologers

> > > do not have time to see the " Dosha Bhanga " areas. Earning

Quick

> > money,

> > > 2 minute noodles, 5 Minutes stirrable Chicken Soup from

packets, is

> > the

> > > order of the day. The times are changing. KP astrologers are

still a

> > > better lot. Otherwise normally people pick up just the Mars

house

> > > placement in the chart without looking at the other factors and

Lo

> > and

> > > behold the smart and intelligent astrologer is quick to exclaim

and

> > > announce " Sir this kundli has a Mars dosha " . After some money

> > changing

> > > hands, the Mars dosha goes to " Babaji ke ghar " , and the

sanction

> > is

> > > given to the couple to " go ahead and marry " .

> > >

> > > We acnnot blame the astrologers wholely. Not many enquirists

have

> > the

> > > time, capacity to sit for few hours, or the inclinations to pay

a

> > > comfortable sum of fees as remunerations, so what will the

> > astrologer do

> > > ? He has to finish as fast as he can, to serve the next

customer.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sri Bhaskar,

> > > >

> > > > I quite appreciate your analysis of Mars in 7th. In

traditional

> > > astrology, there is unnecessary threatening about Mars in

> > > > 7th. In KP system only, we are able to analyse threadbare

> > > > with the help of Star, Sub, Planetary positions of malelefic

> > > > planets in desired houses. Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Astrologically yours,

> > > >

> > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > -

> > > > Bhaskar

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:40 PM

> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best

position ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > // What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of

> > 7th, but

> > > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage

any

> > way?

> > > //

> > > >

> > > > ( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the

presence

> > of

> > > great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji,

Shri

> > > Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and

many

> > other

> > > such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed

and

> > who

> > > adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams

to

> > these

> > > Masters ) -

> > > >

> > > > The answer would depend on many factors.

> > > >

> > > > 1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the

7th,

> > or as

> > > the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it

would

> > > produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power

as a

> > > dasha lord or antar lord.

> > > >

> > > > 2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in

> > consideration

> > > - Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ?

> > > >

> > > > 3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord represents which other

house

> > in

> > > the chart , as the owner ?

> > > >

> > > > 4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ?

> > > >

> > > > Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what does

> > the 7th

> > > Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether

Mars

> > > would be harmful, harmless or positive .

> > > >

> > > > Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has

ownership of

> > evil

> > > houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same

> > stands for

> > > Mars.

> > > >

> > > > Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge

what

> > Mars

> > > can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Ramani " kadavasalramani@

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar,

> > > > >

> > > > > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of

7th,

> > but

> > > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage

any

> > way?

> > > > >

> > > > > Astrologically yors,

> > > > >

> > > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > > -

> > > > > Bhaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM

> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best

position ?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sujata,

> > > > >

> > > > > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its

> > neither

> > > good for marriage nor profession....Death cannot be avoided. //

> > > > >

> > > > > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives

in

> > this

> > > manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above

> > without

> > > checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -

> > > > >

> > > > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in

> > front of

> > > any client or native.

> > > > >

> > > > > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad

for

> > any

> > > native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is

placed in

> > > house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you

> > must

> > > always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you

pass

> > > judgements about any issue related to the cusp.

> > > > >

> > > > > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of

> > Mercury,

> > > then the results would have been quite contrary to what you

> > mentioned.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , sujata das sujatadash1@

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhasker

> > > > > > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its

> > neither

> > > good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything

> > without

> > > the full chart..

> > > > > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and

bad

> > > health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death

> > cannot

> > > be avoided.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > sujata

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best

> > position ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very

> > educative

> > > post.

> > > > > > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I

also

> > > take

> > > > > > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his

> > thread.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics,

> > rather

> > > than

> > > > > > wanton predictions given to non-issues.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in

Cuspal

> > > position

> > > > > > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars

> > less

> > > harmful

> > > > > > ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath

> > <rathluther@ ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > > > > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I

> > request

> > > feed

> > > > > > back.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.

> > > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise,

for

> > any

> > > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo,

Aquarius

> > and

> > > Aries).

> > > > > > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka

> > sthana

> > > by

> > > > > > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or

VIII

> > (12th

> > > house

> > > > > > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is

> > house for

> > > > > > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV

> > appears

> > > to be

> > > > > > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.

> > > > > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX

and

> > > negates

> > > > > > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes

strong

> > to

> > > negate

> > > > > > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as

long

> > as

> > > the

> > > > > > constellations are considered.

> > > > > > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu

or

> > Venus

> > > or

> > > > > > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This

is

> > > definitely

> > > > > > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of

Jupiter,

> > > Saturn and

> > > > > > Mercury.

> > > > > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is

> > not an

> > > > > > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be

> > > considered as

> > > > > > safe.

> > > > > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars

is

> > this

> > > > > > constellation is not safe as well.

> > > > > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not

> > > auspicious.

> > > > > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.

> > > > > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon

and

> > > Venus. So

> > > > > > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka

> > effects are

> > > > > > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the

> > > constellation of

> > > > > > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars

to

> > > tenant to

> > > > > > be harmless.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of

> > which

> > > house,

> > > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?

> > > > > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the

safest

> > > Nakshatra

> > > > > > for Mars.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in

its

> > own

> > > house?

> > > > > > Will it be less harmful then?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars

> > occupies

> > > it own

> > > > > > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On

the

> > > other hand

> > > > > > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be

> > relatively

> > > safe.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one

> > studies

> > > the

> > > > > > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With regards.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM

> > > > > > > Badhaka - What is the best

position ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise,

for

> > any

> > > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be

harmless ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of

> > which

> > > houses,

> > > > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in

its

> > own

> > > house

> > > > > > ?

> > > > > > > Will it be less harmful then ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant,

then

> > for

> > > Mars,

> > > > > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be

harmless ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

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