Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Dear Respected Members,I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & Puberty".So far I have not come across this in our KP System.In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called "Attending" of a girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many traditional activities.The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or correctness of prediction according to my experience.Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the educational purposes.(In Sanskrit is it "MADHYAM"? Pl. explain.)Good LuckSunaparantha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Once again I forward my message below, as no member had gone through yet.Sunaparantha----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 9:38:26 PM Astrology & Puberty Dear Respected Members,I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & Puberty".So far I have not come across this in our KP System.In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called "Attending" of a girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many traditional activities.The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or correctness of prediction according to my experience.Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the educational purposes.(In Sanskrit is it "MADHYAM"? Pl. explain.)Good LuckSunaparantha____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Dear Kalyanji, I am not very clear about the issue you have raised. Do you mean the occurrence of first menstrual period by the word “Puberty”? In India in our state also people celebrate the occasion. But I have not heard the word “Madhyam”. It could be due to the language difference. You have put a query about “the place of attended” I am not able to understand it. Next is why is the urge to study this? Will you please be clear about the issue and make your question more specific? Thanking you. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath. Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:19:37 PMFw: Astrology & Puberty Once again I forward my message below, as no member had gone through yet.Sunaparantha ----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comFriday, October 17, 2008 9:38:26 PM Astrology & Puberty Dear Respected Members,I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & Puberty".So far I have not come across this in our KP System.In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called "Attending" of a girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many traditional activities.The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or correctness of prediction according to my experience.Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the educational purposes.(In Sanskrit is it "MADHYAM"? Pl. explain.)Good LuckSunaparantha____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Dear Sunaparantha It is very difficult to fix the attended time. The girls themselves may not be knowing the exact time. Some vedic astrologers(Mr.Magaleeswaran) are correcting the attended time. Puberty take place for a particular position of planets. When the birth horoscope is available then the prediction based on the time of attended has less value. There are no horoscope for my elder sisters based on birth time. Marriage alliances were fixed with the attended horoscope. Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparanthaFw: Astrology & Puberty Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 1:49 PM Once again I forward my message below, as no member had gone through yet.Sunaparantha ----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comFriday, October 17, 2008 9:38:26 PM Astrology & Puberty Dear Respected Members,I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & Puberty".So far I have not come across this in our KP System.In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called "Attending" of a girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many traditional activities.The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or correctness of prediction according to my experience.Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the educational purposes.(In Sanskrit is it "MADHYAM"? Pl. explain.)Good LuckSunaparantha____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Namaskar,Dear Dhanabalan JiThanks for yr response.The detail what I have found from an ancient Panchanga, will be posted to forum tonight in reply to Dr. Luther Rath, who too is looking the trackBy those, U will be able to come to a conclusion on the subject, as it seems that you are in right way by understanding the topic.Anyway my earnest ambition is to see the correctness of such cultural habit with help of learned members.Good Luck SunaparanthaDhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:47:41 PMRe: Fw: Astrology & Puberty Dear Sunaparantha It is very difficult to fix the attended time. The girls themselves may not be knowing the exact time. Some vedic astrologers( Mr.Magaleeswaran ) are correcting the attended time. Puberty take place for a particular position of planets. When the birth horoscope is available then the prediction based on the time of attended has less value. There are no horoscope for my elder sisters based on birth time. Marriage alliances were fixed with the attended horoscope. Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >Fw: Astrology & Puberty@gro ups.comMonday, October 27, 2008, 1:49 PM Once again I forward my message below, as no member had gone through yet.Sunaparantha ----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comFriday, October 17, 2008 9:38:26 PM Astrology & Puberty Dear Respected Members,I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & Puberty".So far I have not come across this in our KP System.In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called "Attending" of a girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many traditional activities.The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or correctness of prediction according to my experience.Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the educational purposes.(In Sanskrit is it "MADHYAM"? Pl. explain.)Good LuckSunaparantha____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Namaskar,Dear Dr. Luther Rath,Please go through the attachment for further clarification.Good LuckSuanaparanthaLuther Rath <rathluther Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:50:28 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Kalyanji, I am not very clear about the issue you have raised. Do you mean the occurrence of first menstrual period by the word “Puberty”? In India in our state also people celebrate the occasion. But I have not heard the word “Madhyam”. It could be due to the language difference. You have put a query about “the place of attended” I am not able to understand it. Next is why is the urge to study this? Will you please be clear about the issue and make your question more specific? Thanking you. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath. Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comMonday, October 27, 2008 7:19:37 PMFw: Astrology & Puberty Once again I forward my message below, as no member had gone through yet.Sunaparantha ----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comFriday, October 17, 2008 9:38:26 PM Astrology & Puberty Dear Respected Members,I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & Puberty".So far I have not come across this in our KP System.In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called "Attending" of a girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many traditional activities.The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or correctness of prediction according to my experience.Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the educational purposes.(In Sanskrit is it "MADHYAM"? Pl. explain.)Good LuckSunaparantha____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Dear Sunaparanthaji, I am sorry, I am not able to open your attached document on 'Puberty'. Dr. Luther Rath Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:15:47 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Namaskar,Dear Dr. Luther Rath,Please go through the attachment for further clarification.Good LuckSuanaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comTuesday, October 28, 2008 7:50:28 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Kalyanji, I am not very clear about the issue you have raised. Do you mean the occurrence of first menstrual period by the word “Puberty”? In India in our state also people celebrate the occasion. But I have not heard the word “Madhyam”. It could be due to the language difference. You have put a query about “the place of attended” I am not able to understand it. Next is why is the urge to study this? Will you please be clear about the issue and make your question more specific? Thanking you. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath. Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comMonday, October 27, 2008 7:19:37 PMFw: Astrology & Puberty Once again I forward my message below, as no member had gone through yet.Sunaparantha ----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comFriday, October 17, 2008 9:38:26 PM Astrology & Puberty Dear Respected Members,I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & Puberty".So far I have not come across this in our KP System.In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called "Attending" of a girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many traditional activities.The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or correctness of prediction according to my experience.Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the educational purposes.(In Sanskrit is it "MADHYAM"? Pl. explain.)Good LuckSunaparantha____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Dear Dr. Luther Rath, Thank U very much for your response to me. These are the specifications (1) Yes, "Puberty" is the first menstrual period of a girl. The word I have quoted is misspelled, It should be read as "Madhyma", means a girl, who attended her first menstrual, as far as my memory. (2) “the place of attended”- U can have some idea by going through the followings. (3) The urge of study this is because 99% of Sri Lankan are use to follow a prediction of a first menstrual time and place. They treat this as the second birth of a girl and believe the good or evil results forecasted by the Astrologer. Further detail given here are disclosed by the editors of a Local Panchanga Ephemeris and Almanac, and it comes by Parampara. But I have never come across anything on the subject in any Astrological Text. In Shri KSK's books, there is not a single letter on this. That's why" I urged to see whether there is any ancient text on that and see the positive results of it. According to an old local Panchang publication, a summary of article is as follow. When the Moon transit to either 1,2,4,5,7,8 or 12 of the girl's horoscope and aspected by Mars, OR if Moon occupied in one of the above Rashis, which is either Gemini, Virgo, Libra, first half of Sagittarius, or Aquarius and aspected by Mars and if the girl is in the suitable age limit to be an adult, then the first menstruation will take place. Predictions (1) As per the person, who visited to the Astrologer, If that person came from the East and asked, the girl was with a wear and tear cloth and number of blood drops are three. If from South East, the girl was with a blue clothings and number blood drops are three. and so on for the each sides. (2) As per the clothe of the girl at the first menstruation If she was in white clothe no children If in red ill health If in blue poor and widower... and so on (3) As per Number of blood drops If odd numbers of blood drops, male children. For even numbers female children and so on (4) Judging the place, where the first menstruation took place. If the first menstruation was occurred when the Moon is in the Nakshastra of Kartikai, Punarvasu, Poorvaaplguni, swathi, Moolam, Jyestha or Revathie, then place of first menstruation was out of her residence. If in Rohini, Pushyam, Uttrapalguni, Vishaka, Pooradam or Satabhisa, then it has happened in her own residence. And so on. (5) Results as per the place If it is out of her own house, bad character. If it is a close place to water like lake or river she will have a long life. If it is in a church or temple, a miserable life. And so on. (6) Date wise Sunday - cruel. Monday- Good Character. Tuesday- Illness. Wednesday- Meritsful. Thursday- whealthy. Friday- Healthy. Saturday- Poverty And there are some other types of prediction such as : Nakshastra Pala, Thithi Pala, Lagna Pala,etc. As soon as the parents come to know that the daughter has bee attended, their first duty is to go to an Astrologer with her horoscope. Then he go through all above matters and gives prediction with an auspicious day and time for the first Bath of the girl. She will be bathed by woman belongs to a Rajaka (Dhobi) family, in absence of any male. After that she will be blessed by her parents first and then other family members and relations. Nowadays most of people used to celebrate this occasion as well as a marriage festival. As a student of KP, I usually wish to peep in to the matters pertaining to traditional habits of Astrology like this and to see whether there is any good results to follow up. That is the main reason for my mail. Thank U and best wishes Sunaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:15:59 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Sunaparanthaji, I am sorry, I am not able to open your attached document on 'Puberty'. Dr. Luther Rath Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, October 29, 2008 9:15:47 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Namaskar,Dear Dr. Luther Rath,Please go through the attachment for further clarification.Good LuckSuanaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comTuesday, October 28, 2008 7:50:28 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Kalyanji, I am not very clear about the issue you have raised. Do you mean the occurrence of first menstrual period by the word “Puberty”? In India in our state also people celebrate the occasion. But I have not heard the word “Madhyam”. It could be due to the language difference. You have put a query about “the place of attended” I am not able to understand it. Next is why is the urge to study this? Will you please be clear about the issue and make your question more specific? Thanking you.. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath. Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comMonday, October 27, 2008 7:19:37 PMFw: Astrology & Puberty Once again I forward my message below, as no member had gone through yet.Sunaparantha ----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comFriday, October 17, 2008 9:38:26 PM Astrology & Puberty Dear Respected Members,I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & Puberty".So far I have not come across this in our KP System.In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called "Attending" of a girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many traditional activities.The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or correctness of prediction according to my experience.Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the educational purposes.(In Sanskrit is it "MADHYAM"? Pl. explain.)Good LuckSunaparantha____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Dear Sunaparanthaji, Now I have clearly understood the issue. But I am sorry to say I do not have a bit of idea about it. In KP I have no where found any mention on the topic.I was referring to Hindu Predictive Astrology by B V Raman. Under the topic of " First Menses and it Influence" he has given some predictions in nut shell covering only 2 pages. For full information he has advised to read the book "Female Horoscopy" by Prof. B. Suryanarain Rao. I do not have any more information. You may find that book and go through it. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Cc: rathlutherSent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:07:39 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Dr. Luther Rath, Thank U very much for your response to me. These are the specifications (1) Yes, "Puberty" is the first menstrual period of a girl. The word I have quoted is misspelled, It should be read as "Madhyma", means a girl, who attended her first menstrual, as far as my memory. (2) “the place of attended”- U can have some idea by going through the followings. (3) The urge of study this is because 99% of Sri Lankan are use to follow a prediction of a first menstrual time and place. They treat this as the second birth of a girl and believe the good or evil results forecasted by the Astrologer. Further detail given here are disclosed by the editors of a Local Panchanga Ephemeris and Almanac, and it comes by Parampara. But I have never come across anything on the subject in any Astrological Text. In Shri KSK's books, there is not a single letter on this. That's why" I urged to see whether there is any ancient text on that and see the positive results of it. According to an old local Panchang publication, a summary of article is as follow. When the Moon transit to either 1,2,4,5,7,8 or 12 of the girl's horoscope and aspected by Mars, OR if Moon occupied in one of the above Rashis, which is either Gemini, Virgo, Libra, first half of Sagittarius, or Aquarius and aspected by Mars and if the girl is in the suitable age limit to be an adult, then the first menstruation will take place. Predictions (1) As per the person, who visited to the Astrologer, If that person came from the East and asked, the girl was with a wear and tear cloth and number of blood drops are three. If from South East, the girl was with a blue clothings and number blood drops are three. and so on for the each sides. (2) As per the clothe of the girl at the first menstruation If she was in white clothe no children If in red ill health If in blue poor and widower... and so on (3) As per Number of blood drops If odd numbers of blood drops, male children. For even numbers female children and so on (4) Judging the place, where the first menstruation took place. If the first menstruation was occurred when the Moon is in the Nakshastra of Kartikai, Punarvasu, Poorvaaplguni, swathi, Moolam, Jyestha or Revathie, then place of first menstruation was out of her residence. If in Rohini, Pushyam, Uttrapalguni, Vishaka, Pooradam or Satabhisa, then it has happened in her own residence. And so on. (5) Results as per the place If it is out of her own house, bad character. If it is a close place to water like lake or river she will have a long life. If it is in a church or temple, a miserable life. And so on. (6) Date wise Sunday - cruel. Monday- Good Character. Tuesday- Illness. Wednesday- Meritsful. Thursday- whealthy. Friday- Healthy. Saturday- Poverty And there are some other types of prediction such as : Nakshastra Pala, Thithi Pala, Lagna Pala,etc. As soon as the parents come to know that the daughter has bee attended, their first duty is to go to an Astrologer with her horoscope. Then he go through all above matters and gives prediction with an auspicious day and time for the first Bath of the girl. She will be bathed by woman belongs to a Rajaka (Dhobi) family, in absence of any male. After that she will be blessed by her parents first and then other family members and relations. Nowadays most of people used to celebrate this occasion as well as a marriage festival. As a student of KP, I usually wish to peep in to the matters pertaining to traditional habits of Astrology like this and to see whether there is any good results to follow up. That is the main reason for my mail. Thank U and best wishes Sunaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comThursday, October 30, 2008 7:15:59 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Sunaparanthaji, I am sorry, I am not able to open your attached document on 'Puberty'. Dr. Luther Rath Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, October 29, 2008 9:15:47 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Namaskar,Dear Dr. Luther Rath,Please go through the attachment for further clarification.Good LuckSuanaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comTuesday, October 28, 2008 7:50:28 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Kalyanji, I am not very clear about the issue you have raised. Do you mean the occurrence of first menstrual period by the word “Puberty”? In India in our state also people celebrate the occasion. But I have not heard the word “Madhyam”. It could be due to the language difference. You have put a query about “the place of attended” I am not able to understand it. Next is why is the urge to study this? Will you please be clear about the issue and make your question more specific? Thanking you.. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath. Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comMonday, October 27, 2008 7:19:37 PMFw: Astrology & Puberty Once again I forward my message below, as no member had gone through yet.Sunaparantha ----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comFriday, October 17, 2008 9:38:26 PM Astrology & Puberty Dear Respected Members,I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & Puberty".So far I have not come across this in our KP System.In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called "Attending" of a girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many traditional activities.The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or correctness of prediction according to my experience.Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the educational purposes.(In Sanskrit is it "MADHYAM"? Pl. explain.)Good LuckSunaparantha____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Dear Dr. Luther Rath,Thank U.Though it is not available in any leaf of a book, at our touchable area, certainly it should be there, any where in India. Because Vedic Astrology has been born in India.Our forefathers in Sri Lanka were only the followers of Astrology, which came from India and they were not the founders. But they were skilled Pundits in Sanskrit and had used and understood all the Vedic Astrology System through hand written Palm leaves. Still some are having such books, but are hidden treasures only, as they dont give away the Sastra out of the Parampara.I think Guruji Shri KSK too had not seen such issues.However it is a surprise, why Bharath nation is not practising it at present..Good LuckSunaparanthaLuther Rath <rathluther Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:33:59 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Sunaparanthaji, Now I have clearly understood the issue. But I am sorry to say I do not have a bit of idea about it. In KP I have no where found any mention on the topic.I was referring to Hindu Predictive Astrology by B V Raman. Under the topic of " First Menses and it Influence" he has given some predictions in nut shell covering only 2 pages. For full information he has advised to read the book "Female Horoscopy" by Prof. B. Suryanarain Rao. I do not have any more information. You may find that book and go through it. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comCc: rathluther Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:07:39 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Dr. Luther Rath, Thank U very much for your response to me. These are the specifications (1) Yes, "Puberty" is the first menstrual period of a girl. The word I have quoted is misspelled, It should be read as "Madhyma", means a girl, who attended her first menstrual, as far as my memory. (2) “the place of attended”- U can have some idea by going through the followings. (3) The urge of study this is because 99% of Sri Lankan are use to follow a prediction of a first menstrual time and place. They treat this as the second birth of a girl and believe the good or evil results forecasted by the Astrologer. Further detail given here are disclosed by the editors of a Local Panchanga Ephemeris and Almanac, and it comes by Parampara. But I have never come across anything on the subject in any Astrological Text. In Shri KSK's books, there is not a single letter on this. That's why" I urged to see whether there is any ancient text on that and see the positive results of it. According to an old local Panchang publication, a summary of article is as follow. When the Moon transit to either 1,2,4,5,7,8 or 12 of the girl's horoscope and aspected by Mars, OR if Moon occupied in one of the above Rashis, which is either Gemini, Virgo, Libra, first half of Sagittarius, or Aquarius and aspected by Mars and if the girl is in the suitable age limit to be an adult, then the first menstruation will take place. Predictions (1) As per the person, who visited to the Astrologer, If that person came from the East and asked, the girl was with a wear and tear cloth and number of blood drops are three. If from South East, the girl was with a blue clothings and number blood drops are three. and so on for the each sides. (2) As per the clothe of the girl at the first menstruation If she was in white clothe no children If in red ill health If in blue poor and widower... and so on (3) As per Number of blood drops If odd numbers of blood drops, male children. For even numbers female children and so on (4) Judging the place, where the first menstruation took place. If the first menstruation was occurred when the Moon is in the Nakshastra of Kartikai, Punarvasu, Poorvaaplguni, swathi, Moolam, Jyestha or Revathie, then place of first menstruation was out of her residence.. If in Rohini, Pushyam, Uttrapalguni, Vishaka, Pooradam or Satabhisa, then it has happened in her own residence. And so on. (5) Results as per the place If it is out of her own house, bad character. If it is a close place to water like lake or river she will have a long life. If it is in a church or temple, a miserable life. And so on. (6) Date wise Sunday - cruel. Monday- Good Character. Tuesday- Illness. Wednesday- Meritsful. Thursday- whealthy. Friday- Healthy. Saturday- Poverty And there are some other types of prediction such as : Nakshastra Pala, Thithi Pala, Lagna Pala,etc. As soon as the parents come to know that the daughter has bee attended, their first duty is to go to an Astrologer with her horoscope. Then he go through all above matters and gives prediction with an auspicious day and time for the first Bath of the girl. She will be bathed by woman belongs to a Rajaka (Dhobi) family, in absence of any male. After that she will be blessed by her parents first and then other family members and relations. Nowadays most of people used to celebrate this occasion as well as a marriage festival. As a student of KP, I usually wish to peep in to the matters pertaining to traditional habits of Astrology like this and to see whether there is any good results to follow up. That is the main reason for my mail. Thank U and best wishes Sunaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comThursday, October 30, 2008 7:15:59 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Sunaparanthaji, I am sorry, I am not able to open your attached document on 'Puberty'. Dr. Luther Rath Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, October 29, 2008 9:15:47 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Namaskar,Dear Dr. Luther Rath,Please go through the attachment for further clarification.Good LuckSuanaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comTuesday, October 28, 2008 7:50:28 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Kalyanji, I am not very clear about the issue you have raised. Do you mean the occurrence of first menstrual period by the word “Puberty”? In India in our state also people celebrate the occasion. But I have not heard the word “Madhyam”. It could be due to the language difference. You have put a query about “the place of attended” I am not able to understand it. Next is why is the urge to study this? Will you please be clear about the issue and make your question more specific? Thanking you... With regards.. Dr. Luther Rath. Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comMonday, October 27, 2008 7:19:37 PMFw: Astrology & Puberty Once again I forward my message below, as no member had gone through yet.Sunaparantha ----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comFriday, October 17, 2008 9:38:26 PM Astrology & Puberty Dear Respected Members,I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & Puberty".So far I have not come across this in our KP System.In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called "Attending" of a girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many traditional activities.The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or correctness of prediction according to my experience.Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the educational purposes.(In Sanskrit is it "MADHYAM"? Pl. explain.)Good LuckSunaparantha____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Dear Sunaparantha Kalyan, The Great Sri Lankan Astrologer Mr SIVAPATHAM...had many years ago written about it in detail but since these days marriages take place well after puberty is reached...I did not preserve the article...which I now regret...! Perhaps you could find some book written by him on this subject...or K.P., and marriage problems...etc... I would appreciate if you let me know... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2008 7:19:51 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Dr. Luther Rath,Thank U.Though it is not available in any leaf of a book, at our touchable area, certainly it should be there, any where in India. Because Vedic Astrology has been born in India.Our forefathers in Sri Lanka were only the followers of Astrology, which came from India and they were not the founders. But they were skilled Pundits in Sanskrit and had used and understood all the Vedic Astrology System through hand written Palm leaves. Still some are having such books, but are hidden treasures only, as they dont give away the Sastra out of the Parampara.I think Guruji Shri KSK too had not seen such issues.However it is a surprise, why Bharath nation is not practising it at present..Good LuckSunaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comFriday, October 31, 2008 6:33:59 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Sunaparanthaji, Now I have clearly understood the issue. But I am sorry to say I do not have a bit of idea about it. In KP I have no where found any mention on the topic.I was referring to Hindu Predictive Astrology by B V Raman. Under the topic of " First Menses and it Influence" he has given some predictions in nut shell covering only 2 pages. For full information he has advised to read the book "Female Horoscopy" by Prof. B. Suryanarain Rao. I do not have any more information. You may find that book and go through it. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comCc: rathluther Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:07:39 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Dr. Luther Rath, Thank U very much for your response to me. These are the specifications (1) Yes, "Puberty" is the first menstrual period of a girl. The word I have quoted is misspelled, It should be read as "Madhyma", means a girl, who attended her first menstrual, as far as my memory. (2) “the place of attendedâ€- U can have some idea by going through the followings. (3) The urge of study this is because 99% of Sri Lankan are use to follow a prediction of a first menstrual time and place. They treat this as the second birth of a girl and believe the good or evil results forecasted by the Astrologer. Further detail given here are disclosed by the editors of a Local Panchanga Ephemeris and Almanac, and it comes by Parampara. But I have never come across anything on the subject in any Astrological Text. In Shri KSK's books, there is not a single letter on this. That's why" I urged to see whether there is any ancient text on that and see the positive results of it. According to an old local Panchang publication, a summary of article is as follow. When the Moon transit to either 1,2,4,5,7,8 or 12 of the girl's horoscope and aspected by Mars, OR if Moon occupied in one of the above Rashis, which is either Gemini, Virgo, Libra, first half of Sagittarius, or Aquarius and aspected by Mars and if the girl is in the suitable age limit to be an adult, then the first menstruation will take place. Predictions (1) As per the person, who visited to the Astrologer, If that person came from the East and asked, the girl was with a wear and tear cloth and number of blood drops are three. If from South East, the girl was with a blue clothings and number blood drops are three. and so on for the each sides. (2) As per the clothe of the girl at the first menstruation If she was in white clothe no children If in red ill health If in blue poor and widower... and so on (3) As per Number of blood drops If odd numbers of blood drops, male children. For even numbers female children and so on (4) Judging the place, where the first menstruation took place. If the first menstruation was occurred when the Moon is in the Nakshastra of Kartikai, Punarvasu, Poorvaaplguni, swathi, Moolam, Jyestha or Revathie, then place of first menstruation was out of her residence.. If in Rohini, Pushyam, Uttrapalguni, Vishaka, Pooradam or Satabhisa, then it has happened in her own residence. And so on. (5) Results as per the place If it is out of her own house, bad character. If it is a close place to water like lake or river she will have a long life. If it is in a church or temple, a miserable life. And so on. (6) Date wise Sunday - cruel. Monday- Good Character. Tuesday- Illness. Wednesday- Meritsful. Thursday- whealthy. Friday- Healthy. Saturday- Poverty And there are some other types of prediction such as : Nakshastra Pala, Thithi Pala, Lagna Pala,etc. As soon as the parents come to know that the daughter has bee attended, their first duty is to go to an Astrologer with her horoscope. Then he go through all above matters and gives prediction with an auspicious day and time for the first Bath of the girl. She will be bathed by woman belongs to a Rajaka (Dhobi) family, in absence of any male. After that she will be blessed by her parents first and then other family members and relations. Nowadays most of people used to celebrate this occasion as well as a marriage festival. As a student of KP, I usually wish to peep in to the matters pertaining to traditional habits of Astrology like this and to see whether there is any good results to follow up. That is the main reason for my mail. Thank U and best wishes Sunaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comThursday, October 30, 2008 7:15:59 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Sunaparanthaji, I am sorry, I am not able to open your attached document on 'Puberty'. Dr. Luther Rath Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, October 29, 2008 9:15:47 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Namaskar,Dear Dr. Luther Rath,Please go through the attachment for further clarification.Good LuckSuanaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comTuesday, October 28, 2008 7:50:28 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Kalyanji, I am not very clear about the issue you have raised. Do you mean the occurrence of first menstrual period by the word “Pubertyâ€? In India in our state also people celebrate the occasion. But I have not heard the word “Madhyamâ€. It could be due to the language difference. You have put a query about “the place of attended†I am not able to understand it. Next is why is the urge to study this? Will you please be clear about the issue and make your question more specific? Thanking you... With regards.. Dr. Luther Rath. Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comMonday, October 27, 2008 7:19:37 PMFw: Astrology & Puberty Once again I forward my message below, as no member had gone through yet.Sunaparantha ----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comFriday, October 17, 2008 9:38:26 PM Astrology & Puberty Dear Respected Members,I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & Puberty".So far I have not come across this in our KP System.In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called "Attending" of a girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many traditional activities.The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or correctness of prediction according to my experience.Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the educational purposes.(In Sanskrit is it "MADHYAM"? Pl. explain.)Good LuckSunaparantha____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Dear Rao JiThank U.I'll try to find out.SuanaparanthaYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2008 12:45:48 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Sunaparantha Kalyan, The Great Sri Lankan Astrologer Mr SIVAPATHAM.. .had many years ago written about it in detail but since these days marriages take place well after puberty is reached...I did not preserve the article....which I now regret...! Perhaps you could find some book written by him on this subject...or K.P., and marriage problems...etc. .. I would appreciate if you let me know... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comFriday, 31 October, 2008 7:19:51 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Dr. Luther Rath,Thank U.Though it is not available in any leaf of a book, at our touchable area, certainly it should be there, any where in India. Because Vedic Astrology has been born in India.Our forefathers in Sri Lanka were only the followers of Astrology, which came from India and they were not the founders. But they were skilled Pundits in Sanskrit and had used and understood all the Vedic Astrology System through hand written Palm leaves. Still some are having such books, but are hidden treasures only, as they dont give away the Sastra out of the Parampara.I think Guruji Shri KSK too had not seen such issues.However it is a surprise, why Bharath nation is not practising it at present..Good LuckSunaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comFriday, October 31, 2008 6:33:59 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Sunaparanthaji, Now I have clearly understood the issue. But I am sorry to say I do not have a bit of idea about it. In KP I have no where found any mention on the topic.I was referring to Hindu Predictive Astrology by B V Raman. Under the topic of " First Menses and it Influence" he has given some predictions in nut shell covering only 2 pages. For full information he has advised to read the book "Female Horoscopy" by Prof. B. Suryanarain Rao. I do not have any more information. You may find that book and go through it. With regards. Dr.. Luther Rath Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comCc: rathluther Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:07:39 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Dr. Luther Rath, Thank U very much for your response to me. These are the specifications (1) Yes, "Puberty" is the first menstrual period of a girl. The word I have quoted is misspelled, It should be read as "Madhyma", means a girl, who attended her first menstrual, as far as my memory. (2) “the place of attended”- U can have some idea by going through the followings. (3) The urge of study this is because 99% of Sri Lankan are use to follow a prediction of a first menstrual time and place. They treat this as the second birth of a girl and believe the good or evil results forecasted by the Astrologer. Further detail given here are disclosed by the editors of a Local Panchanga Ephemeris and Almanac, and it comes by Parampara. But I have never come across anything on the subject in any Astrological Text. In Shri KSK's books, there is not a single letter on this. That's why" I urged to see whether there is any ancient text on that and see the positive results of it. According to an old local Panchang publication, a summary of article is as follow. When the Moon transit to either 1,2,4,5,7,8 or 12 of the girl's horoscope and aspected by Mars, OR if Moon occupied in one of the above Rashis, which is either Gemini, Virgo, Libra, first half of Sagittarius, or Aquarius and aspected by Mars and if the girl is in the suitable age limit to be an adult, then the first menstruation will take place. Predictions (1) As per the person, who visited to the Astrologer, If that person came from the East and asked, the girl was with a wear and tear cloth and number of blood drops are three. If from South East, the girl was with a blue clothings and number blood drops are three. and so on for the each sides. (2) As per the clothe of the girl at the first menstruation If she was in white clothe no children If in red ill health If in blue poor and widower... and so on (3) As per Number of blood drops If odd numbers of blood drops, male children. For even numbers female children and so on (4) Judging the place, where the first menstruation took place. If the first menstruation was occurred when the Moon is in the Nakshastra of Kartikai, Punarvasu, Poorvaaplguni, swathi, Moolam, Jyestha or Revathie, then place of first menstruation was out of her residence.. If in Rohini, Pushyam, Uttrapalguni, Vishaka, Pooradam or Satabhisa, then it has happened in her own residence. And so on. (5) Results as per the place If it is out of her own house, bad character. If it is a close place to water like lake or river she will have a long life. If it is in a church or temple, a miserable life. And so on. (6) Date wise Sunday - cruel. Monday- Good Character. Tuesday- Illness. Wednesday- Meritsful. Thursday- whealthy. Friday- Healthy. Saturday- Poverty And there are some other types of prediction such as : Nakshastra Pala, Thithi Pala, Lagna Pala,etc. As soon as the parents come to know that the daughter has bee attended, their first duty is to go to an Astrologer with her horoscope. Then he go through all above matters and gives prediction with an auspicious day and time for the first Bath of the girl. She will be bathed by woman belongs to a Rajaka (Dhobi) family, in absence of any male. After that she will be blessed by her parents first and then other family members and relations. Nowadays most of people used to celebrate this occasion as well as a marriage festival. As a student of KP, I usually wish to peep in to the matters pertaining to traditional habits of Astrology like this and to see whether there is any good results to follow up. That is the main reason for my mail. Thank U and best wishes Sunaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comThursday, October 30, 2008 7:15:59 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Sunaparanthaji, I am sorry, I am not able to open your attached document on 'Puberty'. Dr. Luther Rath Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, October 29, 2008 9:15:47 PMRe: Astrology & Puberty Namaskar,Dear Dr.. Luther Rath,Please go through the attachment for further clarification.Good LuckSuanaparantha Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comTuesday, October 28, 2008 7:50:28 AMRe: Astrology & Puberty Dear Kalyanji, I am not very clear about the issue you have raised. Do you mean the occurrence of first menstrual period by the word “Puberty”? In India in our state also people celebrate the occasion. But I have not heard the word “Madhyam”. It could be due to the language difference. You have put a query about “the place of attended” I am not able to understand it. Next is why is the urge to study this? Will you please be clear about the issue and make your question more specific? Thanking you... With regards.. Dr. Luther Rath. Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups..comMonday, October 27, 2008 7:19:37 PMFw: Astrology & Puberty Once again I forward my message below, as no member had gone through yet.Sunaparantha ----- Forwarded Message ----Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >@gro ups.comFriday, October 17, 2008 9:38:26 PM Astrology & Puberty Dear Respected Members,I wish to add a new topic to discuss, by suggesting it as " Astrology & Puberty".So far I have not come across this in our KP System.In some Asian Countries like Sri Lanka, the so called "Attending" of a girl, is celebrate as well as a marriage festival by observing so many traditional activities.The Place of Attended, Exact time of Attended etc, are to be sought through an Astrologer and prediction of future as the results of the place and time are to be checked. In traditional Astrology, it does'nt show any accuracy or correctness of prediction according to my experience.Hence, I wish to draw the KP group attention in this regards, for the educational purposes.(In Sanskrit is it "MADHYAM"? Pl. explain.)Good LuckSunaparantha____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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