rahu -ketu signifying planets-star lord prefered

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Sir,

This may be true in some charts -

So let us keep in mind this in reading about rahu / ketu.

rao chitturu

--- On Fri, 17/10/08, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp wrote:

Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkpRe: Re: rahu -ketu signifying planets Date: Friday, 17 October, 2008, 4:52 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Rahu's or whichever may be the planet,STARLORD comes first,then you can add in the order of preference as conjunction, representation and aspect in the case of Rahu and Ketu

tkp--- On Thu, 10/16/08, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Re: Re: rahu -ketu signifying planets@gro ups.comThursday, October 16, 2008, 2:59 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr Rao

How does one know whether ra is to give effects as per conjunction or starlord at a particular point of time? Ra's interpretation is rather mysterious.

Regards

Sujata--- On Wed, 15/10/08, sujatkaram <sujatkaram (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

sujatkaram <sujatkaram (AT) (DOT) co.in> Re: rahu -ketu signifying planets@gro ups.comWednesday, 15 October, 2008, 1:20 PM

 

 

Respected Mr. Rao,Sir,You are welcome to offer any educative comments. I am thankful to you.At present I am grappling with the clarification offered by Mr. Bhaskar. His comments are too intelligent to be interpreted lightly. Need reading between the lines.You have mentioned four points/alternatives . I would like to know whether those points are to be joined by the word "And" or " Or ",.regards,sujatkaram@gro ups.com, rao chitturu <csr162002@. ..> wrote:>> Sujatkaran,> If you permit - I clarify/simplify as below--> Rahu / ketu are shadow planets and gives the results of those planets as follows:> 1. Planets with which they are conjoined.> 2.Planets which are aspecting rahu / ketu> 3. Star lords of Rahu / ketu> 4. Sign lords of rahu /

ketu.> The order of strength is as above - 1st is stronger than 2nd and as on.> rao chitturu> > > --- On Tue, 14/10/08, sujatkaram <sujatkaram@ ...> wrote:> > sujatkaram <sujatkaram@ ...>> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 10:51 PM> > > > > > > Respected Mr. Bhaskar,> Sir,> The signification properties of Rahu/Ketu are always intrigueing to > me me and I always get confused. From second para of your post I > gather that in your opinion Rahu/Ketu give results of all, i.e.of > their sign-lord,of planets which they are in conjunction with, of > planets by which they are aspected and finally of their

star-lords .I > may be wrong. Would you please clarify sir ?> regards,> sujatkaram. @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > Dear Sundarji,> > > > You are talking of the last antar of the Mars MD preceding the > start of> > the Rahu MD. All such areas of the Vim Dasha would more or les bring> > about changes in ones Professional Life, in 99% of the Horoscopes, > one> > may tend to study.> > > > This is because the Nodes will always activate a numnber of houses > in a> > persons Life, due to, Lordship of the sign owner, Conjunction, > Aspects> > and Star levels of the Nodes....> > > > In My case I have always worked independently in family business, or> > else my own professional

activities, and I am in a number of such> > activities, therefore I do not particularly remember anything > special,> > but yes The Mahadsha of Rahu brought in spectacular changes in My> > Professional Life ( Relatively from the Mars MD), for the better. > And> > also this does not happen in a day, so somewhere something may have > been> > making movement, I am sorry cannot remember anything unusual, but > can> > just say That whatever i was doing in Mars Mahadasha, I got a much> > better exposure in Rahu Mahadasha, status wise and financially. I > was> > never working in a job or in service since last 25 Years.> > > > best wishes,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Sundar Balakrishnan> >

<sundar190561@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar> > > Â> > > Where there any change in your job in Mars/Moon?> > >> > > Â> > > Thanks...... .....Sundar> > >> > > --- On Tue, 14/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 11:44 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > I hope that you have cleared yourself of any misunderstanding > about me> > and my intentions. This was a pure technical query aimed

at> > understanding the harmless position of badhaka Lords.> > > Â> > > I hope you are now convinced that I am not affiliated to any > seminar,> > conference, research, research papers, or at all connected to any> > attendee of any seminar, nor do I have any knowledge of any such > seminar> > being held anywhere in the world. I also do not have any time for > the> > next 5-7 years to enter such luxuries , as am busy earning my> > > monthly expenditures like any other  humble middle class> > > householder in Bombay.  I have never visited Hyderabd more than> > once in my Life, nor do I have time to leave Bombay , from my daily> > duties. Here the position is such that daily one has to lower the> > tumbler daily in the well, for his daily water, and one cannot > think

of> > any other activities as he will miss his daily lunch and dinner, if > he> > indulges in luxurious pastimes. Â> > > Â> > > Now coming to the particular query I put up. That was my own > chart.> > The birth details are as under -> > > Â> > > 28th June 1961 Time - 10.15am> > > Place Eluru ( Near Vijaywada ) 16.45 N, 81.09 E> > > Â> > > I have already passed my Mars Mahadasha, so it is obvious that I > am> > not looking for any predictions, but pure technical pointers.> > > Â> > > When I mentioned that Mars is in Leo, in the Natal Chart, I> > > meant that the sign placement of Mars was Leo. But> > > when we make the placidus ( KP ) Chart, in the house> > > divisions due to the 12th Cusp

beginning 16.29.34 Cancer> > > and extending uptil 16.06.22 Leo, naturally Mars will land> > > on this side of the Border, that is it would now move to the 12th> > cusp.instead of being in the 1st house, in the natal Chart, without> > House divisions.> > > Â> > > Now the above was KP.> > > Â> > > My query was - will this Mars be harmful, or harmless in the 12th> > Cusp, but sign remaining unchanged, which is Leo ?> > > Â> > > I also appreciate your way of presentation and the hard work gone> > behind it. I suppose you are a perfect candudate for seminars,> > conferences and doing research work. This is genuine praise for the > way> > you have presented your article.> > > Â> > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.>

> > Â> > > Â> > >> > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > > I am extremely sorry if I have hurt you though unintentionally.> > Kindly excuse me for my mis interpretation. I am In the massage box > some> > where I read that an international conference is being held in > Hyderabad> > in November this year. And some papers are to be presented in that> > conference. Wrongly perhaps I understood that this study is also one> > that is intended to be presented. I beg excuse again for my mis> > understanding. How ever you need ot feel low about it. We should be> > happy if we can conduct some seminars or conferences whether > national or> > international. I acually

intended to present a way how to prepare a> > paper for pesentation. I never intended to tell any thing wrong > about> > you. I wanted to push a guiding line only. If any does desire to do > some> > research work for publication of presentation may go through my> > following few lines. Just 5 minutes I tried to attach the file but> > failed , I don't know why. So I am copying it here. I wanted to > attach> > > the> > > > file since it is quite long. I shall be happy if you express > that> > you have excused me. Please go through the following.> > > >> > > >> > > > Respected Scholars,> > > > I am happy to know that there will be an International > conference of> > Astrology shortly in Hyderabad. I am too happy that some of our > members>

> desire to present some papers in the conference. Now there is a > project> > from our scholar Sri Bhaskarji. But with much constrain I would > like to> > put forth that when we do a research on any topic we have to observe> > certain system. I would like to give some hints on this.> > > > A project has to be made and studied following certain criteria> > under certain headings.> > > > Ideally the headings should be as follows: -> > > > I.. Â Objective of the study.> > > > II.. Material.> > > > III. Method.> > > > IV. Observation.> > > > V. Â Summery.> > > > VI. Conclusion.> > > > Â> > > > I. Objective of the study.> > > > Â> > > > We should have specific aim and objectives to obtain

from the > study> > the result of which should some way help us in practice. In this > case> > the objectives are as follows.> > > > Â> > > > a)  Which is the best position â€"house placement> > wise, for any badhakasthanadhipat i, to be, in a chart? To be > harmless?> > > > b)  What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> > houses, for this badhakasthanadhipat i? To be harmless?> > > > c)     Is it good for a badhakasthanadhipat i> > to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?> > > > Â> > > > There are three objectives. The research scholar wants to know > the> > sign which if the badhakasthanadhipat i takes occupation of, it > shall> > not be harmful.>

> > > The scholar also wants to find out which is the Nakshatra lord > of> > the badhakasthanadhipat i to modify the badhaka effect of the > Adhipati.> > > > Third thing he wants to find out is if a badhakasthanadhipat i > is> > less harmful when it occupies its own house. Well the answer can be> > derived from the analysis done for objective "a". So this is a > secondary> > objective.> > > > The main objectives are "a" and "b".> > > > Till now it is OK to some extent.> > > > Â> > > > II.. Material.> > > > The material selected for the study is as follows: -> > > > Â> > > > For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what > must be> > the best house for it> > > > to be placed in?>

> > > Â> > > > Before we go to "Material" section, I would like to go back to > the> > "Objectives" . Here he mentions "For Fixed Signs". That means the> > objective has become little more specific. Now the objectives can be> > reformed as, "For people born in fixed signs, i.e. Taurus, Leo, > Scorpio> > and Aquarius, which should be the best position for the> > badhakasthanadhipat i to be least harmful". Since we are considering> > Ascendant in fixed signs we mean the lord of IX as > badhakasthanadhipat> > i, since we conceive that the IX house is the badhakasthana for> > Ascendant in fixed signs. So the focus is the IX lord.> > > > Now the objectives "a" and "b" can be in one objective only. The> > only objective now can be as follows: -> > > > "Which is the best

position for lord of IX in a chart, for > people> > born in fixed signs, to be harmless?"> > > > This objective covers all.> > > > Now going to the material to be used to be studied the Scholar > has> > given, "suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be the best> > house for it to be placed in?"> > > > When we review this sentence we find that we have 1. a blank > chart> > and 2. Ascendant is in Leo. This is incomplete and quite inadequate > for> > a study.> > > > Inadequacies are as follows: -> > > > 1. We do not know the exact longitude of the Ascendant.> > > > 2. We do not know the position of other cusps.> > > > 3. We do not know the position of the planets.> > > > With out having the above data it shall be utterly impossible

to> > study anything what to speak about a sensitive issue like badhaka > effect> > of lord of IX.> > > > In my opinion we should have taken a real horoscope for study.> > > > Next, from recent correspondences, it comes to mind that the > Scholar> > and many of us have in mind to focus on the XII bhaba. The > conception> > that the badhakasthanadhipat i if occupies XII bhava it does indict> > death to the person.> > > > Therefore we should have selected at least 4 horoscopes with the> > Ascendant in Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius having the IX lord> > posited in XII. From these horoscopes we should try to show that the> > Lord of IX did not cause death. By doing so we could have proved > that> > XII is the safest place where in the IX lord being posited does

not> > indict death.> > > > Thus I would like to point out that the material is quite > inadequate> > for study.> > > > Â> > > > III. Method...> > > > In these days we follow many methods for prediction. We have to > be> > very specific which method we use for this particular study. We > have to> > mention according to which method we observe/study and arrive at the> > conclusion. The methods could be as follows: -> > > > 1. Traditional.> > > > 2. Stellar Astrology KSK.> > > > 3. Sub Theory.> > > > 4. 4 step theory.> > > > 5. Any other.> > > > I would like to say that the methods should not be mixed ones. > It> > should not be any one the above or any method propounded by the >

Research> > Scholar (the new method should be explained).> > > > Â> > > > IV. Observation.> > > > Â> > > > One has to explain the observations/ justifications in detail.> > > > Â> > > > V. Summery.> > > > Â> > > > One has to summarize the observations in brief.> > > > Â> > > > VI. Conclusion> > > > In conclusion we should clearly mention whether we could find > out> > the answer to our question, whether we arrived at the goal of our> > objective....> > > > We could mention some thing as follows: -> > > > 1. Such and such position of lord of IX in a chart, for people > born> > in fixed signs, is harmless. OR> > > > 2. No position can be safeÂ>

> > > 3. Could not arrive at any decision and further study is > necessary.> > In this case some clues and criteria have to be indicated for > further> > research to guide others to continue the search ahead.> > > > If we add the references at the end the study shall be more> > authentic.> > > > The preparation has to be as suggested above. Presentation in > the> > conference may be according to convenience.> > > > Â> > > > So, concluding, according to me, in this particular study, we > have> > to review the objectives, the material and finalize the method we > want> > to use.> > > > On the contrary I would like to add that this objective shall > not> > help us in any way in practice. One may not find in life time, > unless he> > is

fortunate enough, a single horoscope with such a fortunate > position> > of the IX lord.> > > > Â> > > > Comments of seniors are cordially invited.> > > > With most humble and due regards to all the members.> > > > Â> > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Monday, October 13, 2008 10:59:14 PM> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > > Â> > > > Yes Mr. Dhanbalanji is right. Mars is in Leo 6.19.00 along'with> >

> > Rahu also in Leo 6.41.00 but both these move to the 12th Cusp.> > > > The 12th Cusp begins from 16.29.34 Cancer and extends uptil> > > > 16.06.22 Leo. So Mars remains in Leo, but the Cusp changes.> > > > Â> > > > Now what are your comments on the same ?> > > > Â> > > > I also see you mentioning something about research to Sujata.> > > > Please note that if you are talking about me, then I am not> > connected to> > > > any research work, and dont have time for all this, and not> > affiliated with> > > > any International astro organisation. I am nowhere> > > > connected with these. If at all> > > > in Life, a time comes when I have to do some research work, then> > > > it would be done on my own experience and not

on others sweat.> > > > I already have crores rupee family business which I have> > > > left , and work and earn from my own labours and not on others.> > > > I am a very small and unknown person and not at all linked> > > > to what you have mentioned.> > > > Â> > > > If You have received some information about this, then please > inform> > the> > > > members about the same, so that the afflicted parties have a > chance> > to> > > > give their explanations, before you misunderstand and > misjudge.> > > > Â> > > > Please clear any misunderstandings, before you move ahead.Here > you> > are meeting a man who does not even ask for a glass of water from > anyone> > so remain assured and continue.>

> > > Â> > > > You please come out clear with what you meant about Â> > > >   " research work " and who gave you this impression,> > so that we can clear this.> > > > Â> > > > best wishes,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > Â> > > > Â> > > > Â> > > > Â> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..>> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sujataji,> > > > > Very late, I could understand that the topic has come to the > group> > toopinion of members for preparing a research paper. Had I known > earlier> > I would not have attempted in that way. In fact this is not a > suitable>

> topic for presentating in an international conference of > astrologers.> > The material provided is not adequate. The result will not have any> > practical application. I am undergoing through mental preparation > to> > take up the issue and put up before the group.> > > > > With regards.> > > > > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:02:22 PM> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best > position ?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Dr Rath> > > >

> 11th house has the power to become auspicious for lagnas other> > than movable. Why don't you cosider the sub as well. If ita in the > sub> > of significatir of good houses, its good.> > > > > Regards> > > > > Sujata> > > > >> > > > > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best > position ?> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Friday, 10 October, 2008, 7:08 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request> > feed

back.> > > > > Â> > > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > > > > Â> > > > > * ..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius > and> > Aries).> > > > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka > sthana by> > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th > house> > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears > to be> > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX

and> > negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes > strong to> > negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as > long as> > the constellations are considered.> > > > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or > Venus> > or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is> > definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of > Jupiter,> > Saturn and Mercury.> > > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not > an> > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be > considered as> > safe.> > > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is > this> > constellation is not safe as well.> > > > > * Saturn owns houses VI

and VII. So Saturn is also not > auspicious.> > > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and > Venus.> > So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects > are> > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the > constellation of> > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant > to> > be harmless.> > > > > Â> > > > > Â> > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> > house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest> > Nakshatra for Mars.> > > > > Â> > > > > c) Is it

good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house? Will it be less harmful then?> > > > > Â> > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars > occupies it> > own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the > other> > hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be > relatively> > safe.> > > > > Â> > > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies > the> > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > > > > Â> > > > > With regards.> > > > > Â> > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear all,> > > > >> > > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > > > >> > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > > > >> > > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> > houses,> > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > > >

>> > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house ?> > > > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > > > >> > > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for> > Mars,> > > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > > > >> > > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> > > > >> >

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Dear Sri Rao,

 

Your advice is noted. Thanks.

 

Astrologically yours,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

 

 

 

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rao chitturu

Friday, October 17, 2008 6:13 PM

Re: Re: rahu -ketu signifying planets-star lord prefered

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sir,

This may be true in some charts -

So let us keep in mind this in reading about rahu / ketu.

rao chitturu

--- On Fri, 17/10/08, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp > wrote:

Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp >Re: Re: rahu -ketu signifying planets Date: Friday, 17 October, 2008, 4:52 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello

Rahu's or whichever may be the planet,STARLORD comes first,then you can add in the order of preference as conjunction, representation and aspect in the case of Rahu and Ketu

tkp--- On Thu, 10/16/08, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Re: Re: rahu -ketu signifying planets@gro ups.comThursday, October 16, 2008, 2:59 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr Rao

How does one know whether ra is to give effects as per conjunction or starlord at a particular point of time? Ra's interpretation is rather mysterious.

Regards

Sujata--- On Wed, 15/10/08, sujatkaram <sujatkaram (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

sujatkaram <sujatkaram (AT) (DOT) co.in> Re: rahu -ketu signifying planets@gro ups.comWednesday, 15 October, 2008, 1:20 PM

 

 

Respected Mr. Rao,Sir,You are welcome to offer any educative comments. I am thankful to you.At present I am grappling with the clarification offered by Mr. Bhaskar. His comments are too intelligent to be interpreted lightly. Need reading between the lines.You have mentioned four points/alternatives . I would like to know whether those points are to be joined by the word "And" or " Or ",.regards,sujatkaram@gro ups.com, rao chitturu <csr162002@. ..> wrote:>> Sujatkaran,> If you permit - I clarify/simplify as below--> Rahu / ketu are shadow planets and gives the results of those planets as follows:> 1. Planets with which they are conjoined.> 2.Planets which are aspecting rahu / ketu> 3. Star lords of Rahu / ketu> 4. Sign lords of rahu / ketu.> The order of strength is as above - 1st is stronger than 2nd and as on.> rao chitturu> > > --- On Tue, 14/10/08, sujatkaram <sujatkaram@ ...> wrote:> > sujatkaram <sujatkaram@ ...>> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 10:51 PM> > > > > > > Respected Mr. Bhaskar,> Sir,> The signification properties of Rahu/Ketu are always intrigueing to > me me and I always get confused. From second para of your post I > gather that in your opinion Rahu/Ketu give results of all, i.e.of > their sign-lord,of planets which they are in conjunction with, of > planets by which they are aspected and finally of their star-lords .I > may be wrong. Would you please clarify sir ?> regards,> sujatkaram. @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > Dear Sundarji,> > > > You are talking of the last antar of the Mars MD preceding the > start of> > the Rahu MD. All such areas of the Vim Dasha would more or les bring> > about changes in ones Professional Life, in 99% of the Horoscopes, > one> > may tend to study.> > > > This is because the Nodes will always activate a numnber of houses > in a> > persons Life, due to, Lordship of the sign owner, Conjunction, > Aspects> > and Star levels of the Nodes....> > > > In My case I have always worked independently in family business, or> > else my own professional activities, and I am in a number of such> > activities, therefore I do not particularly remember anything > special,> > but yes The Mahadsha of Rahu brought in spectacular changes in My> > Professional Life ( Relatively from the Mars MD), for the better. > And> > also this does not happen in a day, so somewhere something may have > been> > making movement, I am sorry cannot remember anything unusual, but > can> > just say That whatever i was doing in Mars Mahadasha, I got a much> > better exposure in Rahu Mahadasha, status wise and financially. I > was> > never working in a job or in service since last 25 Years.> > > > best wishes,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Sundar Balakrishnan> > <sundar190561@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar> > > Â> > > Where there any change in your job in Mars/Moon?> > >> > > Â> > > Thanks...... .....Sundar> > >> > > --- On Tue, 14/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 11:44 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > I hope that you have cleared yourself of any misunderstanding > about me> > and my intentions. This was a pure technical query aimed at> > understanding the harmless position of badhaka Lords.> > > Â> > > I hope you are now convinced that I am not affiliated to any > seminar,> > conference, research, research papers, or at all connected to any> > attendee of any seminar, nor do I have any knowledge of any such > seminar> > being held anywhere in the world. I also do not have any time for > the> > next 5-7 years to enter such luxuries , as am busy earning my> > > monthly expenditures like any other  humble middle class> > > householder in Bombay.  I have never visited Hyderabd more than> > once in my Life, nor do I have time to leave Bombay , from my daily> > duties. Here the position is such that daily one has to lower the> > tumbler daily in the well, for his daily water, and one cannot > think of> > any other activities as he will miss his daily lunch and dinner, if > he> > indulges in luxurious pastimes. Â> > > Â> > > Now coming to the particular query I put up. That was my own > chart.> > The birth details are as under -> > > Â> > > 28th June 1961 Time - 10.15am> > > Place Eluru ( Near Vijaywada ) 16.45 N, 81.09 E> > > Â> > > I have already passed my Mars Mahadasha, so it is obvious that I > am> > not looking for any predictions, but pure technical pointers.> > > Â> > > When I mentioned that Mars is in Leo, in the Natal Chart, I> > > meant that the sign placement of Mars was Leo. But> > > when we make the placidus ( KP ) Chart, in the house> > > divisions due to the 12th Cusp beginning 16.29.34 Cancer> > > and extending uptil 16.06.22 Leo, naturally Mars will land> > > on this side of the Border, that is it would now move to the 12th> > cusp.instead of being in the 1st house, in the natal Chart, without> > House divisions.> > > Â> > > Now the above was KP.> > > Â> > > My query was - will this Mars be harmful, or harmless in the 12th> > Cusp, but sign remaining unchanged, which is Leo ?> > > Â> > > I also appreciate your way of presentation and the hard work gone> > behind it. I suppose you are a perfect candudate for seminars,> > conferences and doing research work. This is genuine praise for the > way> > you have presented your article.> > > Â> > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > Â> > > Â> > >> > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > > I am extremely sorry if I have hurt you though unintentionally.> > Kindly excuse me for my mis interpretation. I am In the massage box > some> > where I read that an international conference is being held in > Hyderabad> > in November this year. And some papers are to be presented in that> > conference. Wrongly perhaps I understood that this study is also one> > that is intended to be presented. I beg excuse again for my mis> > understanding. How ever you need ot feel low about it. We should be> > happy if we can conduct some seminars or conferences whether > national or> > international. I acually intended to present a way how to prepare a> > paper for pesentation. I never intended to tell any thing wrong > about> > you. I wanted to push a guiding line only. If any does desire to do > some> > research work for publication of presentation may go through my> > following few lines. Just 5 minutes I tried to attach the file but> > failed , I don't know why. So I am copying it here. I wanted to > attach> > > the> > > > file since it is quite long. I shall be happy if you express > that> > you have excused me. Please go through the following.> > > >> > > >> > > > Respected Scholars,> > > > I am happy to know that there will be an International > conference of> > Astrology shortly in Hyderabad. I am too happy that some of our > members> > desire to present some papers in the conference. Now there is a > project> > from our scholar Sri Bhaskarji. But with much constrain I would > like to> > put forth that when we do a research on any topic we have to observe> > certain system. I would like to give some hints on this.> > > > A project has to be made and studied following certain criteria> > under certain headings.> > > > Ideally the headings should be as follows: -> > > > I..  Objective of the study.> > > > II.. Material.> > > > III. Method.> > > > IV. Observation.> > > > V.  Summery.> > > > VI. Conclusion.> > > > Â> > > > I. Objective of the study.> > > > Â> > > > We should have specific aim and objectives to obtain from the > study> > the result of which should some way help us in practice. In this > case> > the objectives are as follows.> > > > Â> > > > a)  Which is the best position â€"house placement> > wise, for any badhakasthanadhipat i, to be, in a chart? To be > harmless?> > > > b)  What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> > houses, for this badhakasthanadhipat i? To be harmless?> > > > c)     Is it good for a badhakasthanadhipat i> > to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?> > > > Â> > > > There are three objectives. The research scholar wants to know > the> > sign which if the badhakasthanadhipat i takes occupation of, it > shall> > not be harmful.> > > > The scholar also wants to find out which is the Nakshatra lord > of> > the badhakasthanadhipat i to modify the badhaka effect of the > Adhipati.> > > > Third thing he wants to find out is if a badhakasthanadhipat i > is> > less harmful when it occupies its own house. Well the answer can be> > derived from the analysis done for objective "a". So this is a > secondary> > objective.> > > > The main objectives are "a" and "b".> > > > Till now it is OK to some extent.> > > > Â> > > > II.. Material.> > > > The material selected for the study is as follows: -> > > > Â> > > > For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what > must be> > the best house for it> > > > to be placed in?> > > > Â> > > > Before we go to "Material" section, I would like to go back to > the> > "Objectives" . Here he mentions "For Fixed Signs". That means the> > objective has become little more specific. Now the objectives can be> > reformed as, "For people born in fixed signs, i.e. Taurus, Leo, > Scorpio> > and Aquarius, which should be the best position for the> > badhakasthanadhipat i to be least harmful". Since we are considering> > Ascendant in fixed signs we mean the lord of IX as > badhakasthanadhipat> > i, since we conceive that the IX house is the badhakasthana for> > Ascendant in fixed signs. So the focus is the IX lord.> > > > Now the objectives "a" and "b" can be in one objective only. The> > only objective now can be as follows: -> > > > "Which is the best position for lord of IX in a chart, for > people> > born in fixed signs, to be harmless?"> > > > This objective covers all.> > > > Now going to the material to be used to be studied the Scholar > has> > given, "suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be the best> > house for it to be placed in?"> > > > When we review this sentence we find that we have 1. a blank > chart> > and 2. Ascendant is in Leo. This is incomplete and quite inadequate > for> > a study.> > > > Inadequacies are as follows: -> > > > 1. We do not know the exact longitude of the Ascendant.> > > > 2. We do not know the position of other cusps.> > > > 3. We do not know the position of the planets.> > > > With out having the above data it shall be utterly impossible to> > study anything what to speak about a sensitive issue like badhaka > effect> > of lord of IX.> > > > In my opinion we should have taken a real horoscope for study.> > > > Next, from recent correspondences, it comes to mind that the > Scholar> > and many of us have in mind to focus on the XII bhaba. The > conception> > that the badhakasthanadhipat i if occupies XII bhava it does indict> > death to the person.> > > > Therefore we should have selected at least 4 horoscopes with the> > Ascendant in Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius having the IX lord> > posited in XII. From these horoscopes we should try to show that the> > Lord of IX did not cause death. By doing so we could have proved > that> > XII is the safest place where in the IX lord being posited does not> > indict death.> > > > Thus I would like to point out that the material is quite > inadequate> > for study.> > > > Â> > > > III. Method...> > > > In these days we follow many methods for prediction. We have to > be> > very specific which method we use for this particular study. We > have to> > mention according to which method we observe/study and arrive at the> > conclusion. The methods could be as follows: -> > > > 1. Traditional.> > > > 2. Stellar Astrology KSK.> > > > 3. Sub Theory.> > > > 4. 4 step theory.> > > > 5. Any other.> > > > I would like to say that the methods should not be mixed ones. > It> > should not be any one the above or any method propounded by the > Research> > Scholar (the new method should be explained).> > > > Â> > > > IV. Observation.> > > > Â> > > > One has to explain the observations/ justifications in detail.> > > > Â> > > > V. Summery.> > > > Â> > > > One has to summarize the observations in brief.> > > > Â> > > > VI. Conclusion> > > > In conclusion we should clearly mention whether we could find > out> > the answer to our question, whether we arrived at the goal of our> > objective....> > > > We could mention some thing as follows: -> > > > 1. Such and such position of lord of IX in a chart, for people > born> > in fixed signs, is harmless. OR> > > > 2. No position can be safeÂ> > > > 3. Could not arrive at any decision and further study is > necessary.> > In this case some clues and criteria have to be indicated for > further> > research to guide others to continue the search ahead.> > > > If we add the references at the end the study shall be more> > authentic.> > > > The preparation has to be as suggested above. Presentation in > the> > conference may be according to convenience.> > > > Â> > > > So, concluding, according to me, in this particular study, we > have> > to review the objectives, the material and finalize the method we > want> > to use.> > > > On the contrary I would like to add that this objective shall > not> > help us in any way in practice. One may not find in life time, > unless he> > is fortunate enough, a single horoscope with such a fortunate > position> > of the IX lord.> > > > Â> > > > Comments of seniors are cordially invited.> > > > With most humble and due regards to all the members.> > > > Â> > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Monday, October 13, 2008 10:59:14 PM> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > > Â> > > > Yes Mr. Dhanbalanji is right. Mars is in Leo 6.19.00 along'with> > > > Rahu also in Leo 6.41.00 but both these move to the 12th Cusp.> > > > The 12th Cusp begins from 16.29.34 Cancer and extends uptil> > > > 16.06.22 Leo. So Mars remains in Leo, but the Cusp changes.> > > > Â> > > > Now what are your comments on the same ?> > > > Â> > > > I also see you mentioning something about research to Sujata.> > > > Please note that if you are talking about me, then I am not> > connected to> > > > any research work, and dont have time for all this, and not> > affiliated with> > > > any International astro organisation. I am nowhere> > > > connected with these. If at all> > > > in Life, a time comes when I have to do some research work, then> > > > it would be done on my own experience and not on others sweat.> > > > I already have crores rupee family business which I have> > > > left , and work and earn from my own labours and not on others.> > > > I am a very small and unknown person and not at all linked> > > > to what you have mentioned.> > > > Â> > > > If You have received some information about this, then please > inform> > the> > > > members about the same, so that the afflicted parties have a > chance> > to> > > > give their explanations, before you misunderstand and > misjudge.> > > > Â> > > > Please clear any misunderstandings, before you move ahead.Here > you> > are meeting a man who does not even ask for a glass of water from > anyone> > so remain assured and continue.> > > > Â> > > > You please come out clear with what you meant about Â> > > >   " research work " and who gave you this impression,> > so that we can clear this.> > > > Â> > > > best wishes,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > Â> > > > Â> > > > Â> > > > Â> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..>> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sujataji,> > > > > Very late, I could understand that the topic has come to the > group> > toopinion of members for preparing a research paper. Had I known > earlier> > I would not have attempted in that way. In fact this is not a > suitable> > topic for presentating in an international conference of > astrologers.> > The material provided is not adequate. The result will not have any> > practical application. I am undergoing through mental preparation > to> > take up the issue and put up before the group.> > > > > With regards.> > > > > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:02:22 PM> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best > position ?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Dr Rath> > > > > 11th house has the power to become auspicious for lagnas other> > than movable. Why don't you cosider the sub as well. If ita in the > sub> > of significatir of good houses, its good.> > > > > Regards> > > > > Sujata> > > > >> > > > > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best > position ?> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Friday, 10 October, 2008, 7:08 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request> > feed back.> > > > > Â> > > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > > > > Â> > > > > * ..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius > and> > Aries).> > > > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka > sthana by> > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th > house> > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears > to be> > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and> > negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes > strong to> > negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as > long as> > the constellations are considered.> > > > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or > Venus> > or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is> > definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of > Jupiter,> > Saturn and Mercury.> > > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not > an> > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be > considered as> > safe.> > > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is > this> > constellation is not safe as well.> > > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not > auspicious.> > > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and > Venus.> > So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects > are> > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the > constellation of> > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant > to> > be harmless.> > > > > Â> > > > > Â> > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> > house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest> > Nakshatra for Mars.> > > > > Â> > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house? Will it be less harmful then?> > > > > Â> > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars > occupies it> > own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the > other> > hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be > relatively> > safe.> > > > > Â> > > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies > the> > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > > > > Â> > > > > With regards.> > > > > Â> > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear all,> > > > >> > > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > > > >> > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > > > >> > > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> > houses,> > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > > > >> > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house ?> > > > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > > > >> > > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for> > Mars,> > > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > > > >> > > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > http://messenger. / invite/> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/>

 

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