Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Dear Sir, You can well appreciate KP system Comments on traditional astrology "unnecessary threating about Mars in 7th'' are not good. One who reads in depth can also see the rules for exemptions / cancellation of Mars dosha in traditional astrology. Traditional astrology - wheter hindu / otherwise is the base of all systems being developed now. Commenting on old / other systems is not befiting on the part of an astrologer. Hope this finds all in good spirit rao chitturu. --- On Fri, 17/10/08, Ramani <kadavasalramani wrote: Ramani <kadavasalramaniRe: Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ? Date: Friday, 17 October, 2008, 5:34 PM Dear Sri Bhaskar, I quite appreciate your analysis of Mars in 7th. In traditional astrology, there is unnecessary threatening about Mars in 7th. In KP system only, we are able to analyse threadbare with the help of Star, Sub, Planetary positions of malelefic planets in desired houses. Thanks, Astrologically yours, K.S.V.Ramani - Bhaskar @gro ups.com Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:40 PM Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ? Dear Shri Ramanaji, // What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, but posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any way? // ( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the presence of great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji, Shri Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and many other such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed and who adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams to these Masters ) - The answer would depend on many factors. 1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the 7th, or as the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it would produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power as a dasha lord or antar lord. 2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in consideration - Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ? 3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord represents which other house in the chart , as the owner ? 4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ? Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what does the 7th Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether Mars would be harmful, harmless or positive . Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has ownership of evil houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same stands for Mars. Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge what Mars can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord. best wishes, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ....> wrote:>> Dear Mr.Bhaskar,> > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, but posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any way?> > Astrologically yors,> > K.S.V.Ramani> - > Bhaskar > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > Dear Sujata,> > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be avoided. //> > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in this manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above without checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. - > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in front of any client or native.> > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for any native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you must always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass judgements about any issue related to the cusp.> > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of Mercury, then the results would have been quite contrary to what you mentioned.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhasker> > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything without the full chart.. > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death cannot be avoided.> > Regards> > sujata> > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > @gro ups.com> > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.> > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also take> > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.> > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather than> > wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position> > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful> > ?> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed> > back.> > >> > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > >> > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by> > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house> > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be> > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates> > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate> > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the> > constellations are considered.> > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or> > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely> > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and> > Mercury.> > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an> > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as> > safe.> > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this> > constellation is not safe as well.> > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So> > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are> > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of> > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to> > be harmless.> > >> > >> > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house,> > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra> > for Mars.> > >> > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?> > Will it be less harmful then?> > >> > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own> > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand> > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.> > >> > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the> > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps..> > >> > > With regards.> > >> > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear all,> > >> > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > >> > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > >> > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > >> > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house> > ?> > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > >> > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > >> > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger ./ win/> >> Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Quite right, I vote for U.That's what I entered in to KP.after practicing traditional for more than 30 years.Suanaparantharao chitturu <csr162002 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 6:10:31 PMRe: Re: Badhaka - Mars in 7th - Dear Sir, You can well appreciate KP system Comments on traditional astrology "unnecessary threating about Mars in 7th'' are not good. One who reads in depth can also see the rules for exemptions / cancellation of Mars dosha in traditional astrology. Traditional astrology - wheter hindu / otherwise is the base of all systems being developed now. Commenting on old / other systems is not befiting on the part of an astrologer. Hope this finds all in good spirit rao chitturu. --- On Fri, 17/10/08, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?@gro ups.comFriday, 17 October, 2008, 5:34 PM Dear Sri Bhaskar, I quite appreciate your analysis of Mars in 7th. In traditional astrology, there is unnecessary threatening about Mars in 7th. In KP system only, we are able to analyse threadbare with the help of Star, Sub, Planetary positions of malelefic planets in desired houses. Thanks, Astrologically yours, K.S.V.Ramani - Bhaskar @gro ups.com Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:40 PM Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ? Dear Shri Ramanaji, // What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, but posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any way? // ( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the presence of great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji, Shri Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and many other such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed and who adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams to these Masters ) - The answer would depend on many factors. 1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the 7th, or as the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it would produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power as a dasha lord or antar lord. 2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in consideration - Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ? 3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord represents which other house in the chart , as the owner ? 4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ? Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what does the 7th Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether Mars would be harmful, harmless or positive . Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has ownership of evil houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same stands for Mars. Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge what Mars can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord. best wishes, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ....> wrote:>> Dear Mr.Bhaskar,> > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, but posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any way?> > Astrologically yors,> > K.S.V.Ramani> - > Bhaskar > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > Dear Sujata,> > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be avoided. //> > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in this manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above without checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. - > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in front of any client or native.> > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for any native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you must always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass judgements about any issue related to the cusp.> > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of Mercury, then the results would have been quite contrary to what you mentioned.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhasker> > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything without the full chart.. > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death cannot be avoided.> > Regards> > sujata> > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > @gro ups.com> > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.> > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also take> > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.> > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather than> > wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position> > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful> > ?> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed> > back.> > >> > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > >> > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by> > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house> > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be> > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates> > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate> > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the> > constellations are considered.> > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or> > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely> > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and> > Mercury.> > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an> > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as> > safe.> > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this> > constellation is not safe as well.> > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So> > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are> > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of> > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to> > be harmless.> > >> > >> > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house,> > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra> > for Mars.> > >> > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?> > Will it be less harmful then?> > >> > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own> > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand> > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.> > >> > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the> > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps..> > >> > > With regards.> > >> > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear all,> > >> > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > >> > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > >> > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > >> > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house> > ?> > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > >> > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > >> > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger ./ win/> >> Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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