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Dear

Sujata

 

The

statement is half true. The final potency of Mars will be governed by sublord of Mars.

 

Regards

 

Suprakash

 

 

 

On Behalf

Of sujata das

Thursday, October 16, 2008

2:15 PM

 

Re: Re:

Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Bhasker

 

 

If there are no planets in mars star then ofcourse

its bad. Is it not?

 

 

Regards

 

 

Sujata

 

--- On Wed, 15/10/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

 

 

Bhaskar

<bhaskar_jyotish

Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

Wednesday, 15 October, 2008, 7:48 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Sujata,

 

 

// If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house,

then its neither good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be

avoided. //

 

 

One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any

negatives in this manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the

above without checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -

 

 

We do not use such words with definiteness in

astrology in front of any client or native.

 

 

When you talk of the Sub Lord of any

cusp being good or bad for any native, just on the basis of where the

Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in house, you are talking only half truth or

half lies, because you must always check in which star this sublord is

placed, before you pass judgements about any issue related to the cusp.

 

 

In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star

of Mercury, then the results would have been quite contrary to what you

mentioned.

 

 

regards,

 

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

@gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ....>

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhasker

> If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good

for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything without the full

chart..

> Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad health.For

the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death cannot be avoided.

> Regards

> sujata

>

> --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> @gro ups.com

> Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Shri Lutherji,

>

> I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.

> I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also take

> opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.

>

> This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather than

> wanton predictions given to non-issues.

>

> I also would like to take this thread further ahead -

>

> Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position

> ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful

> ?

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar,

> > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed

> back.

> >

> > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.

> > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any

> > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

> >

> > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and

Aries).

> > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by

> occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house

> to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for

> accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be

> safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.

> > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates

> badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate

> the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the

> constellations are considered.

> > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or

> Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely

> an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and

> Mercury.

> > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an

> auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as

> safe.

> > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this

> constellation is not safe as well.

> > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.

> > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.

> > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus.

So

> they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are

> considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of

> Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to

> be harmless.

> >

> >

> > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which

house,

> for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?

> > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra

> for Mars.

> >

> > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own

house?

> Will it be less harmful then?

> >

> > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it

own

> house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand

> if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.

> >

> > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the

> sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

> >

> > With regards.

> >

> > Dr. Luther Rath.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > @gro ups.com

> > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM

> > Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.

> >

> > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any

> > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?

> >

> > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which

houses,

> > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?

> >

> > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own

house

> ?

> > Will it be less harmful then ?

> >

> > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for

Mars,

> > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?

> >

> > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Sri Bhaskar,

 

I quite appreciate your analysis of Mars in 7th. In traditional astrology, there is unnecessary threatening about Mars in

7th. In KP system only, we are able to analyse threadbare

with the help of Star, Sub, Planetary positions of malelefic

planets in desired houses. Thanks,

 

Astrologically yours,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

 

-

Bhaskar

Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:40 PM

Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

Dear Shri Ramanaji,

 

 

// What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, but posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any way? //

( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the presence of great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji, Shri Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and many other such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed and who adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams to these Masters ) -

 

The answer would depend on many factors.

 

1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the 7th, or as the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it would produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power as a dasha lord or antar lord.

 

2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in consideration - Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ?

 

3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord represents which other house in the chart , as the owner ?

 

4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ?

 

Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what does the 7th Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether Mars would be harmful, harmless or positive .

 

Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has ownership of evil houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same stands for Mars.

 

Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge what Mars can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani wrote:>> Dear Mr.Bhaskar,> > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, but posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any way?> > Astrologically yors,> > K.S.V.Ramani> - > Bhaskar > > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > Dear Sujata,> > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession....Death cannot be avoided. //> > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in this manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above without checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. - > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in front of any client or native.> > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for any native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you must always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass judgements about any issue related to the cusp.> > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of Mercury, then the results would have been quite contrary to what you mentioned.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > , sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhasker> > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything without the full chart.. > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death cannot be avoided.> > Regards> > sujata> > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.> > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also take> > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.> > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather than> > wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position> > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful> > ?> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed> > back.> > >> > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > >> > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by> > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house> > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be> > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates> > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate> > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the> > constellations are considered.> > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or> > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely> > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and> > Mercury.> > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an> > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as> > safe.> > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this> > constellation is not safe as well.> > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So> > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are> > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of> > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to> > be harmless.> > >> > >> > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house,> > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra> > for Mars.> > >> > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?> > Will it be less harmful then?> > >> > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own> > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand> > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.> > >> > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the> > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > >> > > With regards.> > >> > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear all,> > >> > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > >> > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > >> > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > >> > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house> > ?> > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > >> > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > >> > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger./win/> >>

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Dear Shri Ramanaji,

 

You are right partly. But in traditional astrology too, there are many

rules for Dosha bhanga, but in this busy world most of the astrologers

do not have time to see the " Dosha Bhanga " areas. Earning Quick money,

2 minute noodles, 5 Minutes stirrable Chicken Soup from packets, is the

order of the day. The times are changing. KP astrologers are still a

better lot. Otherwise normally people pick up just the Mars house

placement in the chart without looking at the other factors and Lo and

behold the smart and intelligent astrologer is quick to exclaim and

announce " Sir this kundli has a Mars dosha " . After some money changing

hands, the Mars dosha goes to " Babaji ke ghar " , and the sanction is

given to the couple to " go ahead and marry " .

 

We acnnot blame the astrologers wholely. Not many enquirists have the

time, capacity to sit for few hours, or the inclinations to pay a

comfortable sum of fees as remunerations, so what will the astrologer do

? He has to finish as fast as he can, to serve the next customer.

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Bhaskar,

>

> I quite appreciate your analysis of Mars in 7th. In traditional

astrology, there is unnecessary threatening about Mars in

> 7th. In KP system only, we are able to analyse threadbare

> with the help of Star, Sub, Planetary positions of malelefic

> planets in desired houses. Thanks,

>

> Astrologically yours,

>

> K.S.V.Ramani

> -

> Bhaskar

>

> Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:40 PM

> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

>

>

>

> Dear Shri Ramanaji,

>

>

> // What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, but

posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any way?

//

>

> ( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the presence of

great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji, Shri

Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and many other

such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed and who

adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams to these

Masters ) -

>

> The answer would depend on many factors.

>

> 1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the 7th, or as

the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it would

produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power as a

dasha lord or antar lord.

>

> 2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in consideration

- Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ?

>

> 3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord represents which other house in

the chart , as the owner ?

>

> 4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ?

>

> Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what does the 7th

Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether Mars

would be harmful, harmless or positive .

>

> Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has ownership of evil

houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same stands for

Mars.

>

> Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge what Mars

can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

, " Ramani " kadavasalramani@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr.Bhaskar,

> >

> > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, but

posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any way?

> >

> > Astrologically yors,

> >

> > K.S.V.Ramani

> > -

> > Bhaskar

> >

> > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM

> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Sujata,

> >

> > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither

good for marriage nor profession....Death cannot be avoided. //

> >

> > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in this

manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above without

checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -

> >

> > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in front of

any client or native.

> >

> > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for any

native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in

house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you must

always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass

judgements about any issue related to the cusp.

> >

> > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of Mercury,

then the results would have been quite contrary to what you mentioned.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhasker

> > > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither

good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything without

the full chart..

> > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad

health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death cannot

be avoided.

> > > Regards

> > > sujata

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> > >

> > > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Lutherji,

> > >

> > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative

post.

> > > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also

take

> > > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.

> > >

> > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather

than

> > > wanton predictions given to non-issues.

> > >

> > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -

> > >

> > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal

position

> > > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less

harmful

> > > ?

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request

feed

> > > back.

> > > >

> > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.

> > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any

> > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

> > > >

> > > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and

Aries).

> > > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana

by

> > > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th

house

> > > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for

> > > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears

to be

> > > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.

> > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and

negates

> > > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to

negate

> > > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as

the

> > > constellations are considered.

> > > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus

or

> > > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is

definitely

> > > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter,

Saturn and

> > > Mercury.

> > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an

> > > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be

considered as

> > > safe.

> > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this

> > > constellation is not safe as well.

> > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not

auspicious.

> > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.

> > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and

Venus. So

> > > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are

> > > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the

constellation of

> > > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to

tenant to

> > > be harmless.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which

house,

> > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?

> > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest

Nakshatra

> > > for Mars.

> > > >

> > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own

house?

> > > Will it be less harmful then?

> > > >

> > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies

it own

> > > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the

other hand

> > > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively

safe.

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies

the

> > > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

> > > >

> > > > With regards.

> > > >

> > > > Dr. Luther Rath.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM

> > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear all,

> > > >

> > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.

> > > >

> > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any

> > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?

> > > >

> > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which

houses,

> > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?

> > > >

> > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own

house

> > > ?

> > > > Will it be less harmful then ?

> > > >

> > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for

Mars,

> > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?

> > > >

> > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

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Dear Bhasker

When no planets are in mar's stars, it becomes a primary significator of 12th house

Regards

Sujata--- On Thu, 16/10/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ? Date: Thursday, 16 October, 2008, 6:54 PM

 

 

 

Dear Sujata,

I did not quite understand what you mean by this. When you take Mars as the Cuspal Sub Lord of the 7th or 10th, and have to decide what would be the effects, of Mars, then You got to see in which star is Mars placed, and Not the other way round.

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

@gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ....> wrote:>> Dear Bhasker> If there are no planets in mars star then ofcourse its bad. Is it not?> Regards > Sujata> > --- On Wed, 15/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, 15 October, 2008, 7:48 AM> > > > > > > > Dear Sujata,> // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be avoided. //> One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in this manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above without checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. - > We do not use such

words with definiteness in astrology in front of any client or native.> When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for any native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you must always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass judgements about any issue related to the cusp.> In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of Mercury, then the results would have been quite contrary to what you mentioned.> regards,> Bhaskar.> >  > > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhasker> > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything without the full chart.. > > Basically badhaka is to give

obstructions and death and bad health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death cannot be avoided.> > Regards> > sujata> > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ....> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > @gro ups.com> > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.> > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also take> > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.> > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather

than> > wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position> > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful> > ?> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed> > back.> > >> > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > >> > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and

Aries).> > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by> > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house> > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be> > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates> > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate> > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the> > constellations are considered.> > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or> > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely> > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn

and> > Mercury.> > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an> > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as> > safe.> > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this> > constellation is not safe as well.> > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So> > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are> > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of> > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to> > be harmless.> > >> > >> > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra

owner, of which house,> > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra> > for Mars.> > >> > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?> > Will it be less harmful then?> > >> > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own> > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand> > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.> > >> > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the> > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > >> > > With regards.> > >> > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > >> > >> > >> > > -----

Original Message ----> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear all,> > >> > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > >> > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > >> > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > >> > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house> > ?> > > Will it be less harmful then ?> >

>> > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > >> > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger ./ win/> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./

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Dear Sujataji,

What You are talking is utmost confusing and mixed up, and you are confusing me too along with yourself.

We will take the sequence of what you started -

First You wrote

// // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be avoided. //

Then I wrote

// One cannot say the above without checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord //

Next You wrote

// If there are no planets in mars star then ofcourse its bad. Is it not? //

Then I wrote

// I did not quite understand what you mean by this. When you take Mars as the Cuspal Sub Lord of the 7th or 10th, and have to decide what would be the effects, of Mars, then You got to see in which star is Mars placed, and Not the other way round. //

And now you reply

// When no planets are in mar's stars, it becomes a primary significator of 12th house //

Madam Sujata, what You are talking goes over the head. Theres no relevance in any mail to the previous mail. Unnecessarily sticking to some point does not make any sense. How can you judge the effects of any Cusp SubLord without checking in which star it is and what the star owner signifies. Till now you have been only harping on the tune of Mars-Mars- Mars and Mars only. What happened to its star ? Or is it not there in any star at all, in Your ideas ?

Are you sure you want to relate the ffects of Mars individually or as a cuspal SubLord Lord ???

You have now come up with a 4 step principle without having understood the basics of KP initially. From where on earth have you brought the 12th house now ? Which ascendant are you talking now ? Who is the owner of the 12th Cusp ? Which chart are you talking now ?

Kindly excuse me.

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:>> Dear Bhasker> When no planets are in mar's stars, it becomes a primary significator of 12th house> Regards> Sujata> > --- On Thu, 16/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > Thursday, 16 October, 2008, 6:54 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Sujata,> I did not quite understand what you mean by this. When you take Mars as the Cuspal Sub Lord of the 7th or 10th, and have to decide what would be the effects, of Mars, then You got to see in which star is Mars placed, and Not the other way round. > regards,> Bhaskar. >  > > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhasker> > If there are no planets in mars star then ofcourse its bad. Is it not?> > Regards > > Sujata> > > > --- On Wed, 15/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, 15 October, 2008, 7:48 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sujata,> > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be avoided. //> > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in this manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above without checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. - > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in front of any client or native.> > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for any native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you must always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass judgements about any issue related to the cusp.> > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of Mercury, then the results would have been quite contrary to what you mentioned.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhasker> > > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything without the full chart.. > > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death cannot be avoided.> > > Regards> > > sujata> > > > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > @gro ups.com> > > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.> > > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also take> > > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.> > > > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather than> > > wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > > > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > > > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position> > > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful> > > ?> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed> > > back.> > > >> > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > > >> > > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries)..> > > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by> > > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house> > > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> > > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be> > > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates> > > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate> > > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the> > > constellations are considered.> > > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or> > > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely> > > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and> > > Mercury.> > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an> > > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as> > > safe.> > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this> > > constellation is not safe as well.> > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So> > > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are> > > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of> > > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to> > > be harmless.> > > >> > > >> > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house,> > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra> > > for Mars.> > > >> > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?> > > Will it be less harmful then?> > > >> > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own> > > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand> > > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe..> > > >> > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the> > > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > > >> > > > With regards.> > > >> > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear all,> > > >> > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > > >> > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > > >> > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > > >> > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house> > > ?> > > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > > >> > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > > >> > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger ./ win/> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php>

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Respected members,

Sir,

As a student of astrology I would like to offer my comments on

this topic.Let all of us clearly understand that these are thoughts

of a student and so might be immature.

Mars is considered a symbol of physical voilence, aggression -both

physical as well as psycological- and to a great degree represents

lack of tender emotions. In married life these characteristics are

undesirable as those are likely to ruin the marriage.

12th house stands for shaiyya-sukha, 1st house for one,s

nature/character,4th house for happiness at home and homely affairs,

7th and 8th houses for sex-related matters.All these houses can be

spoiled by Mars, its characteristics are not conducive to these

houses. This, I believe, must be the reason why we call it Mars,

Dosha.

In traditional astrology it is considered that a planet

strongly gives " Phalams " of the house it occupies, and so Mars is not

desired in these houses.

I have not read the " Readers. " Has our revered Guruji anywhere

said that MarsDosha does not exist?

In my opinion, in KP, only the method of judging the Mars,

Dosha may differ.We consider that a planet strongly gives results of

its Starlord. So the positions in which mars happens to be a strong

significator of the above houses should be considered similar to mars

dosha.

Comments and corrections from veterans and students alike are

welcome.

regards,

sujat. , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Dear Shri Ramanaji,

>

> You are right partly. But in traditional astrology too, there are

many

> rules for Dosha bhanga, but in this busy world most of the

astrologers

> do not have time to see the " Dosha Bhanga " areas. Earning Quick

money,

> 2 minute noodles, 5 Minutes stirrable Chicken Soup from packets, is

the

> order of the day. The times are changing. KP astrologers are still a

> better lot. Otherwise normally people pick up just the Mars house

> placement in the chart without looking at the other factors and Lo

and

> behold the smart and intelligent astrologer is quick to exclaim and

> announce " Sir this kundli has a Mars dosha " . After some money

changing

> hands, the Mars dosha goes to " Babaji ke ghar " , and the sanction

is

> given to the couple to " go ahead and marry " .

>

> We acnnot blame the astrologers wholely. Not many enquirists have

the

> time, capacity to sit for few hours, or the inclinations to pay a

> comfortable sum of fees as remunerations, so what will the

astrologer do

> ? He has to finish as fast as he can, to serve the next customer.

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sri Bhaskar,

> >

> > I quite appreciate your analysis of Mars in 7th. In traditional

> astrology, there is unnecessary threatening about Mars in

> > 7th. In KP system only, we are able to analyse threadbare

> > with the help of Star, Sub, Planetary positions of malelefic

> > planets in desired houses. Thanks,

> >

> > Astrologically yours,

> >

> > K.S.V.Ramani

> > -

> > Bhaskar

> >

> > Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:40 PM

> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Shri Ramanaji,

> >

> >

> > // What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of

7th, but

> posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any

way?

> //

> >

> > ( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the presence

of

> great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji, Shri

> Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and many

other

> such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed and

who

> adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams to

these

> Masters ) -

> >

> > The answer would depend on many factors.

> >

> > 1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the 7th,

or as

> the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it would

> produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power as a

> dasha lord or antar lord.

> >

> > 2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in

consideration

> - Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ?

> >

> > 3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord represents which other house

in

> the chart , as the owner ?

> >

> > 4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ?

> >

> > Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what does

the 7th

> Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether Mars

> would be harmful, harmless or positive .

> >

> > Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has ownership of

evil

> houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same

stands for

> Mars.

> >

> > Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge what

Mars

> can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Ramani " kadavasalramani@

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar,

> > >

> > > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th,

but

> posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any

way?

> > >

> > > Astrologically yors,

> > >

> > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > -

> > > Bhaskar

> > >

> > > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM

> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sujata,

> > >

> > > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its

neither

> good for marriage nor profession....Death cannot be avoided. //

> > >

> > > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in

this

> manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above

without

> checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -

> > >

> > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in

front of

> any client or native.

> > >

> > > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for

any

> native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in

> house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you

must

> always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass

> judgements about any issue related to the cusp.

> > >

> > > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of

Mercury,

> then the results would have been quite contrary to what you

mentioned.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , sujata das sujatadash1@

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhasker

> > > > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its

neither

> good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything

without

> the full chart..

> > > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad

> health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death

cannot

> be avoided.

> > > > Regards

> > > > sujata

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best

position ?

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,

> > > >

> > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very

educative

> post.

> > > > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also

> take

> > > > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his

thread.

> > > >

> > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics,

rather

> than

> > > > wanton predictions given to non-issues.

> > > >

> > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -

> > > >

> > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal

> position

> > > > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars

less

> harmful

> > > > ?

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath

<rathluther@ ...>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I

request

> feed

> > > > back.

> > > > >

> > > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.

> > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for

any

> > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

> > > > >

> > > > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius

and

> Aries).

> > > > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka

sthana

> by

> > > > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII

(12th

> house

> > > > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is

house for

> > > > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV

appears

> to be

> > > > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.

> > > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and

> negates

> > > > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong

to

> negate

> > > > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long

as

> the

> > > > constellations are considered.

> > > > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or

Venus

> or

> > > > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is

> definitely

> > > > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter,

> Saturn and

> > > > Mercury.

> > > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is

not an

> > > > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be

> considered as

> > > > safe.

> > > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is

this

> > > > constellation is not safe as well.

> > > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not

> auspicious.

> > > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.

> > > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and

> Venus. So

> > > > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka

effects are

> > > > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the

> constellation of

> > > > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to

> tenant to

> > > > be harmless.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of

which

> house,

> > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?

> > > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest

> Nakshatra

> > > > for Mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its

own

> house?

> > > > Will it be less harmful then?

> > > > >

> > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars

occupies

> it own

> > > > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the

> other hand

> > > > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be

relatively

> safe.

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one

studies

> the

> > > > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

> > > > >

> > > > > With regards.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM

> > > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear all,

> > > > >

> > > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.

> > > > >

> > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for

any

> > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?

> > > > >

> > > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of

which

> houses,

> > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?

> > > > >

> > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its

own

> house

> > > > ?

> > > > > Will it be less harmful then ?

> > > > >

> > > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then

for

> Mars,

> > > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?

> > > > >

> > > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to

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> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear all,

No planet is good or bad. They behave benefic or malefic only as per what they are supposed to give us , as per our purva karmas.

Giving justice to Mars, I would say that without a averagely strong Mars, one will have difficulty in creation or procreation. The agression of Mars, is certainly necessary in the right levels , for one to copulate.

Karma ( Action ) is denoted by Mangala. Remember where does the Mars get exalted in the natural Kundli ? In the 10th house of Saturn, Capricorn. Saturn certainly loves to reward those who do their Karmas properly through its ownership pf the 11th, Aquarius. Karma brings welfare. karma is kartavya. Without fulfilling ones Kartavya ( Duties ) one cannot be happy in life.

Wherever one finds dispute in land, property, loss of affinity with brother or wife, the result is due to amangala.

A shubh Mangal is " Rinantaka " or tne ender of rins ( Debts ). Shubh mangala is related to earthly possessions and stands for everything produced from the earth ( Bhoomi).

Karma connotes to the idea of 'sangram'. For instance challenge of Life. Karma arises from " Kama ". Under tamoguna ( Tamo nakshatras ) it will lead to blind impulsive actions, bloodsheds, might to win, actions to yield power etc.

An ashubha mangal represents obstructions to fulfillment of Kama. It denotes loss or seperation from wife or husband, imcompatibilities in relations, partner, and not in good relations with brothers.

Remember that the 8th house is denoted by the Sign Scorpio owned by Mars, a highly mystical and sexual sign , denoting secrecy . Therefore Mars, is certainly related to Sex, but pure or clandestine, open or secret, with wife or with paramour, powerful or powerless, will all depend on the strength or affliction of Mars.

Therefore as such Mars cannot be ruled out for happiness in a married couples Life, and the knowledge which comes from the traditional Rishi Munis , is without doubt, a great treasure for us.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram wrote:>> Respected members,> Sir,> As a student of astrology I would like to offer my comments on > this topic.Let all of us clearly understand that these are thoughts > of a student and so might be immature.> Mars is considered a symbol of physical voilence, aggression -both > physical as well as psycological- and to a great degree represents > lack of tender emotions. In married life these characteristics are > undesirable as those are likely to ruin the marriage.> 12th house stands for shaiyya-sukha, 1st house for one,s > nature/character,4th house for happiness at home and homely affairs, > 7th and 8th houses for sex-related matters.All these houses can be > spoiled by Mars, its characteristics are not conducive to these > houses. This, I believe, must be the reason why we call it Mars, > Dosha. > In traditional astrology it is considered that a planet > strongly gives "Phalams" of the house it occupies, and so Mars is not > desired in these houses.> I have not read the" Readers." Has our revered Guruji anywhere > said that MarsDosha does not exist? > In my opinion, in KP, only the method of judging the Mars, > Dosha may differ.We consider that a planet strongly gives results of > its Starlord. So the positions in which mars happens to be a strong > significator of the above houses should be considered similar to mars > dosha. > Comments and corrections from veterans and students alike are > welcome.> regards,> sujat. , "Bhaskar" > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,> > > > You are right partly. But in traditional astrology too, there are > many> > rules for Dosha bhanga, but in this busy world most of the > astrologers> > do not have time to see the " Dosha Bhanga " areas. Earning Quick > money,> > 2 minute noodles, 5 Minutes stirrable Chicken Soup from packets, is > the> > order of the day. The times are changing. KP astrologers are still a> > better lot. Otherwise normally people pick up just the Mars house> > placement in the chart without looking at the other factors and Lo > and> > behold the smart and intelligent astrologer is quick to exclaim and> > announce " Sir this kundli has a Mars dosha ". After some money > changing> > hands, the Mars dosha goes to " Babaji ke ghar ", and the sanction > is> > given to the couple to " go ahead and marry ".> > > > We acnnot blame the astrologers wholely. Not many enquirists have > the> > time, capacity to sit for few hours, or the inclinations to pay a> > comfortable sum of fees as remunerations, so what will the > astrologer do> > ? He has to finish as fast as he can, to serve the next customer.> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sri Bhaskar,> > >> > > I quite appreciate your analysis of Mars in 7th. In traditional> > astrology, there is unnecessary threatening about Mars in> > > 7th. In KP system only, we are able to analyse threadbare> > > with the help of Star, Sub, Planetary positions of malelefic> > > planets in desired houses. Thanks,> > >> > > Astrologically yours,> > >> > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > -> > > Bhaskar> > > > > > Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:40 PM> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,> > >> > >> > > // What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of > 7th, but> > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any > way?> > //> > >> > > ( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the presence > of> > great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji, Shri> > Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and many > other> > such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed and > who> > adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams to > these> > Masters ) -> > >> > > The answer would depend on many factors.> > >> > > 1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the 7th, > or as> > the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it would> > produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power as a> > dasha lord or antar lord.> > >> > > 2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in > consideration> > - Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ?> > >> > > 3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord represents which other house > in> > the chart , as the owner ?> > >> > > 4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ?> > >> > > Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what does > the 7th> > Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether Mars> > would be harmful, harmless or positive .> > >> > > Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has ownership of > evil> > houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same > stands for> > Mars.> > >> > > Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge what > Mars> > can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord.> > >> > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Ramani" kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar,> > > >> > > > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, > but> > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any > way?> > > >> > > > Astrologically yors,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > Bhaskar> > > > > > > > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Sujata,> > > >> > > > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its > neither> > good for marriage nor profession....Death cannot be avoided. //> > > >> > > > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in > this> > manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above > without> > checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -> > > >> > > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in > front of> > any client or native.> > > >> > > > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for > any> > native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in> > house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you > must> > always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass> > judgements about any issue related to the cusp.> > > >> > > > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of > Mercury,> > then the results would have been quite contrary to what you > mentioned.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , sujata das sujatadash1@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhasker> > > > > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its > neither> > good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything > without> > the full chart..> > > > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad> > health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death > cannot> > be avoided.> > > > > Regards> > > > > sujata> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best > position ?> > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > > >> > > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very > educative> > post.> > > > > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also> > take> > > > > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his > thread.> > > > >> > > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, > rather> > than> > > > > wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > > > >> > > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > > > >> > > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal> > position> > > > > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars > less> > harmful> > > > > ?> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath > <rathluther@ ...>> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I > request> > feed> > > > > back.> > > > > >> > > > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for > any> > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > > > > >> > > > > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius > and> > Aries).> > > > > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka > sthana> > by> > > > > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII > (12th> > house> > > > > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is > house for> > > > > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV > appears> > to be> > > > > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and> > negates> > > > > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong > to> > negate> > > > > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long > as> > the> > > > > constellations are considered.> > > > > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or > Venus> > or> > > > > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is> > definitely> > > > > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter,> > Saturn and> > > > > Mercury.> > > > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is > not an> > > > > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be> > considered as> > > > > safe.> > > > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is > this> > > > > constellation is not safe as well.> > > > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not> > auspicious.> > > > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > > > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and> > Venus. So> > > > > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka > effects are> > > > > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the> > constellation of> > > > > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to> > tenant to> > > > > be harmless.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of > which> > house,> > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest> > Nakshatra> > > > > for Mars.> > > > > >> > > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house?> > > > > Will it be less harmful then?> > > > > >> > > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars > occupies> > it own> > > > > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the> > other hand> > > > > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be > relatively> > safe.> > > > > >> > > > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one > studies> > the> > > > > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > > > > >> > > > > > With regards.> > > > > >> > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > >> > > > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > > > > >> > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for > any> > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > > > > >> > > > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of > which> > houses,> > > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > > > > >> > > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house> > > > > ?> > > > > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > > > > >> > > > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then > for> > Mars,> > > > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > > > > >> > > > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > > > > >> > > > > > regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to> > http://in.messenger./win/> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Bhaskar and all

 

First I would like to thankyou all participatory members to hold kp system in .But unfortunatly we sometime belive traditional side because of lack of knowledge about cuspal system as krishanamurthi driven car.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Saturday, 18 October, 2008 2:06:36 PM Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

Dear all,

No planet is good or bad. They behave benefic or malefic only as per what they are supposed to give us , as per our purva karmas.

Giving justice to Mars, I would say that without a averagely strong Mars, one will have difficulty in creation or procreation. The agression of Mars, is certainly necessary in the right levels , for one to copulate.

Karma ( Action ) is denoted by Mangala. Remember where does the Mars get exalted in the natural Kundli ? In the 10th house of Saturn, Capricorn. Saturn certainly loves to reward those who do their Karmas properly through its ownership pf the 11th, Aquarius. Karma brings welfare. karma is kartavya. Without fulfilling ones Kartavya ( Duties ) one cannot be happy in life.

Wherever one finds dispute in land, property, loss of affinity with brother or wife, the result is due to amangala.

A shubh Mangal is " Rinantaka " or tne ender of rins ( Debts ). Shubh mangala is related to earthly possessions and stands for everything produced from the earth ( Bhoomi).

Karma connotes to the idea of 'sangram'. For instance challenge of Life. Karma arises from " Kama ". Under tamoguna ( Tamo nakshatras ) it will lead to blind impulsive actions, bloodsheds, might to win, actions to yield power etc.

An ashubha mangal represents obstructions to fulfillment of Kama. It denotes loss or seperation from wife or husband, imcompatibilities in relations, partner, and not in good relations with brothers.

Remember that the 8th house is denoted by the Sign Scorpio owned by Mars, a highly mystical and sexual sign , denoting secrecy . Therefore Mars, is certainly related to Sex, but pure or clandestine, open or secret, with wife or with paramour, powerful or powerless, will all depend on the strength or affliction of Mars.

Therefore as such Mars cannot be ruled out for happiness in a married couples Life, and the knowledge which comes from the traditional Rishi Munis , is without doubt, a great treasure for us.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

@gro ups.com, "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram@. ..> wrote:>> Respected members,> Sir,> As a student of astrology I would like to offer my comments on > this topic.Let all of us clearly understand that these are thoughts > of a student and so might be immature.> Mars is considered a symbol of physical voilence, aggression -both > physical as well as psycological- and to a great degree represents > lack of tender emotions. In married life these characteristics are > undesirable as those are likely to ruin the marriage.> 12th house stands for shaiyya-sukha, 1st house for one,s > nature/character, 4th house for happiness at home and homely affairs, > 7th and 8th houses for sex-related matters.All these houses can be > spoiled by Mars, its characteristics are not conducive to these > houses. This, I

believe, must be the reason why we call it Mars, > Dosha. > In traditional astrology it is considered that a planet > strongly gives "Phalams" of the house it occupies, and so Mars is not > desired in these houses.> I have not read the" Readers." Has our revered Guruji anywhere > said that MarsDosha does not exist? > In my opinion, in KP, only the method of judging the Mars, > Dosha may differ.We consider that a planet strongly gives results of > its Starlord. So the positions in which mars happens to be a strong > significator of the above houses should be considered similar to mars > dosha. > Comments and corrections from veterans and students alike are > welcome.> regards,> sujat. @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,> > > > You

are right partly. But in traditional astrology too, there are > many> > rules for Dosha bhanga, but in this busy world most of the > astrologers> > do not have time to see the " Dosha Bhanga " areas. Earning Quick > money,> > 2 minute noodles, 5 Minutes stirrable Chicken Soup from packets, is > the> > order of the day. The times are changing. KP astrologers are still a> > better lot. Otherwise normally people pick up just the Mars house> > placement in the chart without looking at the other factors and Lo > and> > behold the smart and intelligent astrologer is quick to exclaim and> > announce " Sir this kundli has a Mars dosha ". After some money > changing> > hands, the Mars dosha goes to " Babaji ke ghar ", and the sanction > is> > given to the couple to " go ahead and marry ".> > > >

We acnnot blame the astrologers wholely. Not many enquirists have > the> > time, capacity to sit for few hours, or the inclinations to pay a> > comfortable sum of fees as remunerations, so what will the > astrologer do> > ? He has to finish as fast as he can, to serve the next customer.> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sri Bhaskar,> > >> > > I quite appreciate your analysis of Mars in 7th. In traditional> > astrology, there is unnecessary threatening about Mars in> > > 7th. In KP system only, we are able to analyse threadbare> > > with the help of Star, Sub, Planetary positions of

malelefic> > > planets in desired houses. Thanks,> > >> > > Astrologically yours,> > >> > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > -> > > Bhaskar> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:40 PM> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,> > >> > >> > > // What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of > 7th, but> > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any > way?> > //> > >> > > ( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the presence > of> > great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji,

Shri> > Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and many > other> > such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed and > who> > adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams to > these> > Masters ) -> > >> > > The answer would depend on many factors.> > >> > > 1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the 7th, > or as> > the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it would> > produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power as a> > dasha lord or antar lord.> > >> > > 2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in > consideration> > - Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ?> > >> > > 3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord

represents which other house > in> > the chart , as the owner ?> > >> > > 4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ?> > >> > > Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what does > the 7th> > Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether Mars> > would be harmful, harmless or positive .> > >> > > Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has ownership of > evil> > houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same > stands for> > Mars.> > >> > > Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge what > Mars> > can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord.> > >> > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >>

> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar,> > > >> > > > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, > but> > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any > way?> > > >> > > > Astrologically yors,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > Bhaskar> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

> Dear Sujata,> > > >> > > > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its > neither> > good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be avoided. //> > > >> > > > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in > this> > manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above > without> > checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -> > > >> > > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in > front of> > any client or native.> > > >> > > > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for > any> > native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in> > house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you > must> > always

check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass> > judgements about any issue related to the cusp.> > > >> > > > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of > Mercury,> > then the results would have been quite contrary to what you > mentioned.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das sujatadash1@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhasker> > > > > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its > neither> > good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything > without> > the full chart..> >

> > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad> > health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death > cannot> > be avoided.> > > > > Regards> > > > > sujata> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best > position ?> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > >

>> > > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very > educative> > post.> > > > > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also> > take> > > > > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his > thread.> > > > >> > > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, > rather> > than> > > > > wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > > > >> > > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > > > >> > > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal> > position> > > > > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars > less> > harmful> > > > > ?>

> > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath > <rathluther@ ...>> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I > request> > feed> > > > > back.> > > > > >> > > > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for > any> > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > > > > >> > > > > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius > and> > Aries).> > > > > > * .Mars could occupy to

be harmless by negating badhaka > sthana> > by> > > > > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII > (12th> > house> > > > > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is > house for> > > > > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV > appears> > to be> > > > > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and> > negates> > > > > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong > to> > negate> > > > > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long > as> > the> > > > > constellations are considered.> > > > > > * IX cusp in Aries

can be in the constellation of Kethu or > Venus> > or> > > > > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is> > definitely> > > > > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter,> > Saturn and> > > > > Mercury.> > > > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is > not an> > > > > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be> > considered as> > > > > safe.> > > > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is > this> > > > > constellation is not safe as well.> > > > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not> > auspicious.> > > > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.>

> > > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and> > Venus. So> > > > > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka > effects are> > > > > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the> > constellation of> > > > > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to> > tenant to> > > > > be harmless.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of > which> > house,> > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest> > Nakshatra> > > > > for Mars.> > > > > >> > > > > > c) Is

it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house?> > > > > Will it be less harmful then?> > > > > >> > > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars > occupies> > it own> > > > > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the> > other hand> > > > > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be > relatively> > safe.> > > > > >> > > > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one > studies> > the> > > > > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > > > > >> > > > > > With regards.> > > > > >> > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > >

>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > >> > > > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > > > > >> > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for > any> > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > > > > >> >

> > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of > which> > houses,> > > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > > > > >> > > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house> > > > > ?> > > > > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > > > > >> > > > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then > for> > Mars,> > > > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > > > > >> > > > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > > > > >> > > > > > regards,> > > > > >> > > > > >

Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to> > http://in.messenger ./ win/> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php

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Dear Mohankumarji,

 

Cuspal system is easy for any one to understand if one has studied the

Traditional properly. But for a person to straightaway go to learning

KP, he is going to get no where, without a Live Guru. And the process of

learning always goes on, and never complete or perfect, so at any stage,

one is a learner.

 

Believeing in the Traditonal is not unfortunate, but rather paying

obesiance to the Elders of the family. And remember that Parashar

Traditional is the Milk, and Kp is the churned cream, so no one method

is independent on its own. None good KP astrologer will look down upon

the Traditional, and always respect it.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " B.Mohankumar B.mohankumar "

<b_mohan_mohan wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar and all

>

> FirstI would like to thankyou all participatory members to hold kp

system in .But unfortunatly we sometime belive traditional side because

of lack of knowledge about cuspal system as krishanamurthi driven car.

>

>

>

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Saturday, 18 October, 2008 2:06:36 PM

> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

>

>

> Dear all,

> No planet is good or bad. They behave benefic or malefic only as

per what they are supposed to give us , as per our purva karmas.

> Giving justice to Mars, I would say that without a averagely strong

Mars, one will have difficulty in creation or procreation. The

agression of Mars, is certainly necessary in the right levels , for one

to copulate.

> Karma ( Action ) is denoted by Mangala. Remember where does the

Mars get exalted in the natural Kundli ? In the 10th house of Saturn,

Capricorn. Saturn certainly loves to reward those who do their Karmas

properly through its ownership pf the 11th, Aquarius. Karma brings

welfare. karma is kartavya. Without fulfilling ones Kartavya (

Duties ) one cannot be happy in life.

> Wherever one finds dispute in land, property, loss of affinity with

brother or wife, the result is due to amangala.

> A shubh Mangal is " Rinantaka " or tne ender of rins ( Debts ).Â

Shubh mangala is related to earthly possessions and stands for

everything produced from the earth ( Bhoomi).

> Karma connotes to the idea of 'sangram'. For instance challenge

of Life. Karma arises from " Kama " . Under tamoguna ( Tamo

nakshatras   ) it will lead to blind impulsive actions,

bloodsheds, might to win, actions to yield power etc.

> An ashubha mangal represents obstructions to fulfillment of Kama.Â

It denotes loss or seperation from wife or husband, imcompatibilities in

relations, partner, and not in good relations with brothers.Â

> Remember that the 8th house is denoted by the Sign Scorpio owned by

Mars, a highly mystical and sexual sign  , denoting secrecy .

Therefore Mars, is certainly related to Sex, but pure or clandestine,

open or secret, with wife or with paramour, powerful or powerless, will

all depend on the strength or affliction of Mars.

> Therefore as such Mars cannot be ruled out for happiness in a married

couples Life, and the knowledge which comes from the traditional Rishi

Munis , is without doubt, a great treasure for us.

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

> Â

> Â

> Â

> Â

>

> @gro ups.com, " sujatkaram " sujatkaram@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Respected members,

> > Sir,

> > As a student of astrology I would like to offer my comments on

> > this topic.Let all of us clearly understand that these are thoughts

> > of a student and so might be immature.

> > Mars is considered a symbol of physical voilence, aggression -both

> > physical as well as psycological- and to a great degree represents

> > lack of tender emotions. In married life these characteristics are

> > undesirable as those are likely to ruin the marriage.

> > 12th house stands for shaiyya-sukha, 1st house for one,s

> > nature/character, 4th house for happiness at home and homely

affairs,

> > 7th and 8th houses for sex-related matters.All these houses can be

> > spoiled by Mars, its characteristics are not conducive to these

> > houses. This, I believe, must be the reason why we call it Mars,

> > Dosha.

> > In traditional astrology it is considered that a planet

> > strongly gives " Phalams " of the house it occupies, and so Mars is

not

> > desired in these houses.

> > I have not read the " Readers. " Has our revered Guruji anywhere

> > said that MarsDosha does not exist?

> > In my opinion, in KP, only the method of judging the Mars,

> > Dosha may differ.We consider that a planet strongly gives results of

> > its Starlord. So the positions in which mars happens to be a strong

> > significator of the above houses should be considered similar to

mars

> > dosha.

> > Comments and corrections from veterans and students alike are

> > welcome.

> > regards,

> > sujat. @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar "

> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,

> > >

> > > You are right partly. But in traditional astrology too, there are

> > many

> > > rules for Dosha bhanga, but in this busy world most of the

> > astrologers

> > > do not have time to see the " Dosha Bhanga " areas. Earning Quick

> > money,

> > > 2 minute noodles, 5 Minutes stirrable Chicken Soup from packets,

is

> > the

> > > order of the day. The times are changing. KP astrologers are still

a

> > > better lot. Otherwise normally people pick up just the Mars house

> > > placement in the chart without looking at the other factors and Lo

> > and

> > > behold the smart and intelligent astrologer is quick to exclaim

and

> > > announce " Sir this kundli has a Mars dosha " . After some money

> > changing

> > > hands, the Mars dosha goes to " Babaji ke ghar " , and the sanction

> > is

> > > given to the couple to " go ahead and marry " .

> > >

> > > We acnnot blame the astrologers wholely. Not many enquirists have

> > the

> > > time, capacity to sit for few hours, or the inclinations to pay a

> > > comfortable sum of fees as remunerations, so what will the

> > astrologer do

> > > ? He has to finish as fast as he can, to serve the next customer.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sri Bhaskar,

> > > >

> > > > I quite appreciate your analysis of Mars in 7th. In traditional

> > > astrology, there is unnecessary threatening about Mars in

> > > > 7th. In KP system only, we are able to analyse threadbare

> > > > with the help of Star, Sub, Planetary positions of malelefic

> > > > planets in desired houses. Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Astrologically yours,

> > > >

> > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > -

> > > > Bhaskar

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:40 PM

> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > // What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of

> > 7th, but

> > > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any

> > way?

> > > //

> > > >

> > > > ( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the

presence

> > of

> > > great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji, Shri

> > > Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and many

> > other

> > > such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed

and

> > who

> > > adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams to

> > these

> > > Masters ) -

> > > >

> > > > The answer would depend on many factors.

> > > >

> > > > 1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the 7th,

> > or as

> > > the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it would

> > > produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power as

a

> > > dasha lord or antar lord.

> > > >

> > > > 2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in

> > consideration

> > > - Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ?

> > > >

> > > > 3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord represents which other

house

> > in

> > > the chart , as the owner ?

> > > >

> > > > 4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ?

> > > >

> > > > Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what does

> > the 7th

> > > Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether

Mars

> > > would be harmful, harmless or positive .

> > > >

> > > > Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has ownership

of

> > evil

> > > houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same

> > stands for

> > > Mars.

> > > >

> > > > Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge what

> > Mars

> > > can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " kadavasalramani@

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar,

> > > > >

> > > > > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of

7th,

> > but

> > > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any

> > way?

> > > > >

> > > > > Astrologically yors,

> > > > >

> > > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > > -

> > > > > Bhaskar

> > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM

> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position

?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sujata,

> > > > >

> > > > > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its

> > neither

> > > good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be avoided. //

> > > > >

> > > > > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in

> > this

> > > manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above

> > without

> > > checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -

> > > > >

> > > > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in

> > front of

> > > any client or native.

> > > > >

> > > > > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad

for

> > any

> > > native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed

in

> > > house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you

> > must

> > > always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass

> > > judgements about any issue related to the cusp.

> > > > >

> > > > > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of

> > Mercury,

> > > then the results would have been quite contrary to what you

> > mentioned.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das sujatadash1@

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhasker

> > > > > > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its

> > neither

> > > good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything

> > without

> > > the full chart..

> > > > > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad

> > > health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death

> > cannot

> > > be avoided.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > sujata

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best

> > position ?

> > > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very

> > educative

> > > post.

> > > > > > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I

also

> > > take

> > > > > > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his

> > thread.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics,

> > rather

> > > than

> > > > > > wanton predictions given to non-issues.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in

Cuspal

> > > position

> > > > > > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars

> > less

> > > harmful

> > > > > > ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath

> > <rathluther@ ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > > > > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I

> > request

> > > feed

> > > > > > back.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.

> > > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for

> > any

> > > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius

> > and

> > > Aries).

> > > > > > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka

> > sthana

> > > by

> > > > > > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII

> > (12th

> > > house

> > > > > > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is

> > house for

> > > > > > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV

> > appears

> > > to be

> > > > > > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.

> > > > > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX

and

> > > negates

> > > > > > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes

strong

> > to

> > > negate

> > > > > > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as

long

> > as

> > > the

> > > > > > constellations are considered.

> > > > > > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or

> > Venus

> > > or

> > > > > > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is

> > > definitely

> > > > > > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of

Jupiter,

> > > Saturn and

> > > > > > Mercury.

> > > > > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is

> > not an

> > > > > > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be

> > > considered as

> > > > > > safe.

> > > > > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is

> > this

> > > > > > constellation is not safe as well.

> > > > > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not

> > > auspicious.

> > > > > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.

> > > > > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon

and

> > > Venus. So

> > > > > > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka

> > effects are

> > > > > > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the

> > > constellation of

> > > > > > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to

> > > tenant to

> > > > > > be harmless.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of

> > which

> > > house,

> > > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?

> > > > > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest

> > > Nakshatra

> > > > > > for Mars.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in

its

> > own

> > > house?

> > > > > > Will it be less harmful then?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars

> > occupies

> > > it own

> > > > > > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On

the

> > > other hand

> > > > > > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be

> > relatively

> > > safe.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one

> > studies

> > > the

> > > > > > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With regards.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > Dear all,

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> > > > > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.

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> > > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for

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> > > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?

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> > > > > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of

> > which

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> > > > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?

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> > > > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in

its

> > own

> > > house

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> > > > > > > Will it be less harmful then ?

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> > > > > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then

> > for

> > > Mars,

> > > > > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?

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> > > > > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless

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> > > > > > > regards,

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Dear Mohankumar,

As per K.P.,Mars causes 'dosha', popularly known as Mars Dosha,

only if Mars is in Sun's star or own star and occupying houses I.II.IV,VII,VIII & XII...

This is strictly as per K.P.,as taught by our late Guruji himself...

With kind regards,

L.Y.Rao.

 

 

B.Mohankumar B.mohankumar <b_mohan_mohan Sent: Sunday, 19 October, 2008 7:36:22 AMRe: Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

Dear Bhaskar and all

 

First I would like to thankyou all participatory members to hold kp system in .But unfortunatly we sometime belive traditional side because of lack of knowledge about cuspal system as krishanamurthi driven car.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>@gro ups.comSaturday, 18 October, 2008 2:06:36 PM Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

Dear all,

No planet is good or bad. They behave benefic or malefic only as per what they are supposed to give us , as per our purva karmas.

Giving justice to Mars, I would say that without a averagely strong Mars, one will have difficulty in creation or procreation. The agression of Mars, is certainly necessary in the right levels , for one to copulate.

Karma ( Action ) is denoted by Mangala. Remember where does the Mars get exalted in the natural Kundli ? In the 10th house of Saturn, Capricorn. Saturn certainly loves to reward those who do their Karmas properly through its ownership pf the 11th, Aquarius. Karma brings welfare. karma is kartavya. Without fulfilling ones Kartavya ( Duties ) one cannot be happy in life.

Wherever one finds dispute in land, property, loss of affinity with brother or wife, the result is due to amangala.

A shubh Mangal is " Rinantaka " or tne ender of rins ( Debts ). Shubh mangala is related to earthly possessions and stands for everything produced from the earth ( Bhoomi).

Karma connotes to the idea of 'sangram'. For instance challenge of Life. Karma arises from " Kama ". Under tamoguna ( Tamo nakshatras ) it will lead to blind impulsive actions, bloodsheds, might to win, actions to yield power etc.

An ashubha mangal represents obstructions to fulfillment of Kama. It denotes loss or seperation from wife or husband, imcompatibilities in relations, partner, and not in good relations with brothers.

Remember that the 8th house is denoted by the Sign Scorpio owned by Mars, a highly mystical and sexual sign , denoting secrecy . Therefore Mars, is certainly related to Sex, but pure or clandestine, open or secret, with wife or with paramour, powerful or powerless, will all depend on the strength or affliction of Mars.

Therefore as such Mars cannot be ruled out for happiness in a married couples Life, and the knowledge which comes from the traditional Rishi Munis , is without doubt, a great treasure for us.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

@gro ups.com, "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram@. ..> wrote:>> Respected members,> Sir,> As a student of astrology I would like to offer my comments on > this topic.Let all of us clearly understand that these are thoughts > of a student and so might be immature.> Mars is considered a symbol of physical voilence, aggression -both > physical as well as psycological- and to a great degree represents > lack of tender emotions. In married life these characteristics are > undesirable as those are likely to ruin the marriage.> 12th house stands for shaiyya-sukha, 1st house for one,s > nature/character, 4th house for happiness at home and homely affairs, > 7th and 8th houses for sex-related matters.All these houses can be > spoiled by Mars, its characteristics are not conducive to these > houses. This, I

believe, must be the reason why we call it Mars, > Dosha. > In traditional astrology it is considered that a planet > strongly gives "Phalams" of the house it occupies, and so Mars is not > desired in these houses.> I have not read the" Readers." Has our revered Guruji anywhere > said that MarsDosha does not exist? > In my opinion, in KP, only the method of judging the Mars, > Dosha may differ.We consider that a planet strongly gives results of > its Starlord. So the positions in which mars happens to be a strong > significator of the above houses should be considered similar to mars > dosha. > Comments and corrections from veterans and students alike are > welcome.> regards,> sujat. @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,> > > > You

are right partly. But in traditional astrology too, there are > many> > rules for Dosha bhanga, but in this busy world most of the > astrologers> > do not have time to see the " Dosha Bhanga " areas. Earning Quick > money,> > 2 minute noodles, 5 Minutes stirrable Chicken Soup from packets, is > the> > order of the day. The times are changing. KP astrologers are still a> > better lot. Otherwise normally people pick up just the Mars house> > placement in the chart without looking at the other factors and Lo > and> > behold the smart and intelligent astrologer is quick to exclaim and> > announce " Sir this kundli has a Mars dosha ". After some money > changing> > hands, the Mars dosha goes to " Babaji ke ghar ", and the sanction > is> > given to the couple to " go ahead and marry ".> > > >

We acnnot blame the astrologers wholely. Not many enquirists have > the> > time, capacity to sit for few hours, or the inclinations to pay a> > comfortable sum of fees as remunerations, so what will the > astrologer do> > ? He has to finish as fast as he can, to serve the next customer.> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sri Bhaskar,> > >> > > I quite appreciate your analysis of Mars in 7th. In traditional> > astrology, there is unnecessary threatening about Mars in> > > 7th. In KP system only, we are able to analyse threadbare> > > with the help of Star, Sub, Planetary positions of

malelefic> > > planets in desired houses. Thanks,> > >> > > Astrologically yours,> > >> > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > -> > > Bhaskar> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:40 PM> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,> > >> > >> > > // What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of > 7th, but> > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any > way?> > //> > >> > > ( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the presence > of> > great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji,

Shri> > Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and many > other> > such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed and > who> > adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams to > these> > Masters ) -> > >> > > The answer would depend on many factors.> > >> > > 1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the 7th, > or as> > the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it would> > produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power as a> > dasha lord or antar lord.> > >> > > 2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in > consideration> > - Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ?> > >> > > 3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord

represents which other house > in> > the chart , as the owner ?> > >> > > 4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ?> > >> > > Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what does > the 7th> > Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether Mars> > would be harmful, harmless or positive .> > >> > > Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has ownership of > evil> > houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same > stands for> > Mars.> > >> > > Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge what > Mars> > can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord.> > >> > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >>

> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar,> > > >> > > > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, > but> > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any > way?> > > >> > > > Astrologically yors,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > Bhaskar> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

> Dear Sujata,> > > >> > > > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its > neither> > good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be avoided. //> > > >> > > > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in > this> > manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above > without> > checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -> > > >> > > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in > front of> > any client or native.> > > >> > > > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for > any> > native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in> > house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you > must> > always

check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass> > judgements about any issue related to the cusp.> > > >> > > > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of > Mercury,> > then the results would have been quite contrary to what you > mentioned.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das sujatadash1@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhasker> > > > > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its > neither> > good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything > without> > the full chart..> >

> > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad> > health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death > cannot> > be avoided.> > > > > Regards> > > > > sujata> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best > position ?> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > >

>> > > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very > educative> > post.> > > > > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also> > take> > > > > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his > thread.> > > > >> > > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, > rather> > than> > > > > wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > > > >> > > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > > > >> > > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal> > position> > > > > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars > less> > harmful> > > > > ?>

> > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath > <rathluther@ ...>> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I > request> > feed> > > > > back.> > > > > >> > > > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for > any> > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > > > > >> > > > > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius > and> > Aries).> > > > > > * .Mars could occupy to

be harmless by negating badhaka > sthana> > by> > > > > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII > (12th> > house> > > > > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is > house for> > > > > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV > appears> > to be> > > > > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and> > negates> > > > > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong > to> > negate> > > > > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long > as> > the> > > > > constellations are considered.> > > > > > * IX cusp in Aries

can be in the constellation of Kethu or > Venus> > or> > > > > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is> > definitely> > > > > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter,> > Saturn and> > > > > Mercury.> > > > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is > not an> > > > > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be> > considered as> > > > > safe.> > > > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is > this> > > > > constellation is not safe as well.> > > > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not> > auspicious.> > > > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.>

> > > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and> > Venus. So> > > > > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka > effects are> > > > > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the> > constellation of> > > > > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to> > tenant to> > > > > be harmless.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of > which> > house,> > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest> > Nakshatra> > > > > for Mars.> > > > > >> > > > > > c) Is

it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house?> > > > > Will it be less harmful then?> > > > > >> > > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars > occupies> > it own> > > > > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the> > other hand> > > > > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be > relatively> > safe.> > > > > >> > > > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one > studies> > the> > > > > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > > > > >> > > > > > With regards.> > > > > >> > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > >

>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > >> > > > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > > > > >> > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for > any> > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > > > > >> >

> > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of > which> > houses,> > > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > > > > >> > > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house> > > > > ?> > > > > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > > > > >> > > > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then > for> > Mars,> > > > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > > > > >> > > > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > > > > >> > > > > > regards,> > > > > >> > > > > >

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Dear Sir, L Y Rao,

I failed to understand why Mars posited in Sun's star and occupies any of the houses I, II, IV, VI, VIII or XII. will produce Mar's Dasha. Will you be kind enough to explain please?

With respects.

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:21:24 PMRe: Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

Dear Mohankumar,

As per K.P.,Mars causes 'dosha', popularly known as Mars Dosha,

only if Mars is in Sun's star or own star and occupying houses I.II.IV,VII, VIII & XII...

This is strictly as per K.P.,as taught by our late Guruji himself...

With kind regards,

L.Y.Rao.

 

 

B.Mohankumar B.mohankumar <b_mohan_mohan@ .co. in>@gro ups.comSunday, 19 October, 2008 7:36:22 AMRe: Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

Dear Bhaskar and all

 

First I would like to thankyou all participatory members to hold kp system in .But unfortunatly we sometime belive traditional side because of lack of knowledge about cuspal system as krishanamurthi driven car.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>@gro ups.comSaturday, 18 October, 2008 2:06:36 PM Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

Dear all,

No planet is good or bad. They behave benefic or malefic only as per what they are supposed to give us , as per our purva karmas.

Giving justice to Mars, I would say that without a averagely strong Mars, one will have difficulty in creation or procreation. The agression of Mars, is certainly necessary in the right levels , for one to copulate.

Karma ( Action ) is denoted by Mangala. Remember where does the Mars get exalted in the natural Kundli ? In the 10th house of Saturn, Capricorn. Saturn certainly loves to reward those who do their Karmas properly through its ownership pf the 11th, Aquarius. Karma brings welfare. karma is kartavya. Without fulfilling ones Kartavya ( Duties ) one cannot be happy in life.

Wherever one finds dispute in land, property, loss of affinity with brother or wife, the result is due to amangala.

A shubh Mangal is " Rinantaka " or tne ender of rins ( Debts ). Shubh mangala is related to earthly possessions and stands for everything produced from the earth ( Bhoomi).

Karma connotes to the idea of 'sangram'. For instance challenge of Life. Karma arises from " Kama ". Under tamoguna ( Tamo nakshatras ) it will lead to blind impulsive actions, bloodsheds, might to win, actions to yield power etc.

An ashubha mangal represents obstructions to fulfillment of Kama. It denotes loss or seperation from wife or husband, imcompatibilities in relations, partner, and not in good relations with brothers.

Remember that the 8th house is denoted by the Sign Scorpio owned by Mars, a highly mystical and sexual sign , denoting secrecy . Therefore Mars, is certainly related to Sex, but pure or clandestine, open or secret, with wife or with paramour, powerful or powerless, will all depend on the strength or affliction of Mars.

Therefore as such Mars cannot be ruled out for happiness in a married couples Life, and the knowledge which comes from the traditional Rishi Munis , is without doubt, a great treasure for us.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

@gro ups.com, "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram@. ..> wrote:>> Respected members,> Sir,> As a student of astrology I would like to offer my comments on > this topic.Let all of us clearly understand that these are thoughts > of a student and so might be immature.> Mars is considered a symbol of physical voilence, aggression -both > physical as well as psycological- and to a great degree represents > lack of tender emotions. In married life these characteristics are > undesirable as those are likely to ruin the marriage.> 12th house stands for shaiyya-sukha, 1st house for one,s > nature/character, 4th house for happiness at home and homely affairs, > 7th and 8th houses for sex-related matters.All these houses can be > spoiled by Mars, its characteristics are not conducive to these > houses. This, I

believe, must be the reason why we call it Mars, > Dosha. > In traditional astrology it is considered that a planet > strongly gives "Phalams" of the house it occupies, and so Mars is not > desired in these houses.> I have not read the" Readers." Has our revered Guruji anywhere > said that MarsDosha does not exist? > In my opinion, in KP, only the method of judging the Mars, > Dosha may differ.We consider that a planet strongly gives results of > its Starlord. So the positions in which mars happens to be a strong > significator of the above houses should be considered similar to mars > dosha. > Comments and corrections from veterans and students alike are > welcome.> regards,> sujat. @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,> > > > You

are right partly. But in traditional astrology too, there are > many> > rules for Dosha bhanga, but in this busy world most of the > astrologers> > do not have time to see the " Dosha Bhanga " areas. Earning Quick > money,> > 2 minute noodles, 5 Minutes stirrable Chicken Soup from packets, is > the> > order of the day. The times are changing. KP astrologers are still a> > better lot. Otherwise normally people pick up just the Mars house> > placement in the chart without looking at the other factors and Lo > and> > behold the smart and intelligent astrologer is quick to exclaim and> > announce " Sir this kundli has a Mars dosha ". After some money > changing> > hands, the Mars dosha goes to " Babaji ke ghar ", and the sanction > is> > given to the couple to " go ahead and marry ".> > > >

We acnnot blame the astrologers wholely. Not many enquirists have > the> > time, capacity to sit for few hours, or the inclinations to pay a> > comfortable sum of fees as remunerations, so what will the > astrologer do> > ? He has to finish as fast as he can, to serve the next customer.> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sri Bhaskar,> > >> > > I quite appreciate your analysis of Mars in 7th. In traditional> > astrology, there is unnecessary threatening about Mars in> > > 7th. In KP system only, we are able to analyse threadbare> > > with the help of Star, Sub, Planetary positions of

malelefic> > > planets in desired houses. Thanks,> > >> > > Astrologically yours,> > >> > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > -> > > Bhaskar> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:40 PM> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,> > >> > >> > > // What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of > 7th, but> > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any > way?> > //> > >> > > ( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the presence > of> > great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji,

Shri> > Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and many > other> > such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed and > who> > adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams to > these> > Masters ) -> > >> > > The answer would depend on many factors.> > >> > > 1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the 7th, > or as> > the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it would> > produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power as a> > dasha lord or antar lord.> > >> > > 2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in > consideration> > - Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ?> > >> > > 3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord

represents which other house > in> > the chart , as the owner ?> > >> > > 4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ?> > >> > > Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what does > the 7th> > Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether Mars> > would be harmful, harmless or positive .> > >> > > Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has ownership of > evil> > houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same > stands for> > Mars.> > >> > > Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge what > Mars> > can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord.> > >> > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >>

> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar,> > > >> > > > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, > but> > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any > way?> > > >> > > > Astrologically yors,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > Bhaskar> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

> Dear Sujata,> > > >> > > > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its > neither> > good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be avoided. //> > > >> > > > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in > this> > manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above > without> > checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -> > > >> > > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in > front of> > any client or native.> > > >> > > > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for > any> > native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in> > house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you > must> > always

check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass> > judgements about any issue related to the cusp.> > > >> > > > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of > Mercury,> > then the results would have been quite contrary to what you > mentioned.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das sujatadash1@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhasker> > > > > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its > neither> > good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything > without> > the full chart..> >

> > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad> > health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death > cannot> > be avoided.> > > > > Regards> > > > > sujata> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best > position ?> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > >

>> > > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very > educative> > post.> > > > > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also> > take> > > > > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his > thread.> > > > >> > > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, > rather> > than> > > > > wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > > > >> > > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > > > >> > > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal> > position> > > > > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars > less> > harmful> > > > > ?>

> > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath > <rathluther@ ...>> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I > request> > feed> > > > > back.> > > > > >> > > > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for > any> > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > > > > >> > > > > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius > and> > Aries).> > > > > > * .Mars could occupy to

be harmless by negating badhaka > sthana> > by> > > > > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII > (12th> > house> > > > > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is > house for> > > > > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV > appears> > to be> > > > > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and> > negates> > > > > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong > to> > negate> > > > > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long > as> > the> > > > > constellations are considered.> > > > > > * IX cusp in Aries

can be in the constellation of Kethu or > Venus> > or> > > > > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is> > definitely> > > > > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter,> > Saturn and> > > > > Mercury.> > > > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is > not an> > > > > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be> > considered as> > > > > safe.> > > > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is > this> > > > > constellation is not safe as well.> > > > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not> > auspicious.> > > > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.>

> > > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and> > Venus. So> > > > > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka > effects are> > > > > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the> > constellation of> > > > > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to> > tenant to> > > > > be harmless.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of > which> > house,> > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest> > Nakshatra> > > > > for Mars.> > > > > >> > > > > > c) Is

it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house?> > > > > Will it be less harmful then?> > > > > >> > > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars > occupies> > it own> > > > > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the> > other hand> > > > > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be > relatively> > safe.> > > > > >> > > > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one > studies> > the> > > > > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > > > > >> > > > > > With regards.> > > > > >> > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > >

>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > >> > > > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > > > > >> > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for > any> > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > > > > >> >

> > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of > which> > houses,> > > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > > > > >> > > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house> > > > > ?> > > > > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > > > > >> > > > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then > for> > Mars,> > > > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > > > > >> > > > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > > > > >> > > > > > regards,> > > > > >> > > > > >

Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to> > http://in.messenger ./ win/> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php

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Dear L.Y.Rao

 

"As per K.P.,Mars causes 'dosha', popularly known as Mars Dosha,

only if Mars is in Sun's star or own star and occupying houses I.II.IV,VII, VIII & XII..."

According to Mr.KSK, the Mars dosha is sign based and not house based.

 

Dhanabalan

--- On Mon, 10/20/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1Re: Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ? Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 2:51 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Mohankumar,

As per K.P.,Mars causes 'dosha', popularly known as Mars Dosha,

only if Mars is in Sun's star or own star and occupying houses I.II.IV,VII, VIII & XII...

This is strictly as per K.P.,as taught by our late Guruji himself...

With kind regards,

L.Y.Rao.

 

 

B.Mohankumar B.mohankumar <b_mohan_mohan@ .co. in>@gro ups.comSunday, 19 October, 2008 7:36:22 AMRe: Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

Dear Bhaskar and all

 

First I would like to thankyou all participatory members to hold kp system in .But unfortunatly we sometime belive traditional side because of lack of knowledge about cuspal system as krishanamurthi driven car.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>@gro ups.comSaturday, 18 October, 2008 2:06:36 PM Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

Dear all,

No planet is good or bad. They behave benefic or malefic only as per what they are supposed to give us , as per our purva karmas.

Giving justice to Mars, I would say that without a averagely strong Mars, one will have difficulty in creation or procreation. The agression of Mars, is certainly necessary in the right levels , for one to copulate.

Karma ( Action ) is denoted by Mangala. Remember where does the Mars get exalted in the natural Kundli ? In the 10th house of Saturn, Capricorn. Saturn certainly loves to reward those who do their Karmas properly through its ownership pf the 11th, Aquarius. Karma brings welfare. karma is kartavya. Without fulfilling ones Kartavya ( Duties ) one cannot be happy in life.

Wherever one finds dispute in land, property, loss of affinity with brother or wife, the result is due to amangala.

A shubh Mangal is " Rinantaka " or tne ender of rins ( Debts ). Shubh mangala is related to earthly possessions and stands for everything produced from the earth ( Bhoomi).

Karma connotes to the idea of 'sangram'. For instance challenge of Life. Karma arises from " Kama ". Under tamoguna ( Tamo nakshatras ) it will lead to blind impulsive actions, bloodsheds, might to win, actions to yield power etc.

An ashubha mangal represents obstructions to fulfillment of Kama. It denotes loss or seperation from wife or husband, imcompatibilities in relations, partner, and not in good relations with brothers.

Remember that the 8th house is denoted by the Sign Scorpio owned by Mars, a highly mystical and sexual sign , denoting secrecy . Therefore Mars, is certainly related to Sex, but pure or clandestine, open or secret, with wife or with paramour, powerful or powerless, will all depend on the strength or affliction of Mars.

Therefore as such Mars cannot be ruled out for happiness in a married couples Life, and the knowledge which comes from the traditional Rishi Munis , is without doubt, a great treasure for us.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

@gro ups.com, "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram@. ..> wrote:>> Respected members,> Sir,> As a student of astrology I would like to offer my comments on > this topic.Let all of us clearly understand that these are thoughts > of a student and so might be immature.> Mars is considered a symbol of physical voilence, aggression -both > physical as well as psycological- and to a great degree represents > lack of tender emotions. In married life these characteristics are > undesirable as those are likely to ruin the marriage.> 12th house stands for shaiyya-sukha, 1st house for one,s > nature/character, 4th house for happiness at home and homely affairs, > 7th and 8th houses for sex-related matters.All these houses can be > spoiled by Mars, its characteristics are not conducive to these > houses. This, I

believe, must be the reason why we call it Mars, > Dosha. > In traditional astrology it is considered that a planet > strongly gives "Phalams" of the house it occupies, and so Mars is not > desired in these houses.> I have not read the" Readers." Has our revered Guruji anywhere > said that MarsDosha does not exist? > In my opinion, in KP, only the method of judging the Mars, > Dosha may differ.We consider that a planet strongly gives results of > its Starlord. So the positions in which mars happens to be a strong > significator of the above houses should be considered similar to mars > dosha. > Comments and corrections from veterans and students alike are > welcome.> regards,> sujat. @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,> > > > You

are right partly. But in traditional astrology too, there are > many> > rules for Dosha bhanga, but in this busy world most of the > astrologers> > do not have time to see the " Dosha Bhanga " areas. Earning Quick > money,> > 2 minute noodles, 5 Minutes stirrable Chicken Soup from packets, is > the> > order of the day. The times are changing. KP astrologers are still a> > better lot. Otherwise normally people pick up just the Mars house> > placement in the chart without looking at the other factors and Lo > and> > behold the smart and intelligent astrologer is quick to exclaim and> > announce " Sir this kundli has a Mars dosha ". After some money > changing> > hands, the Mars dosha goes to " Babaji ke ghar ", and the sanction > is> > given to the couple to " go ahead and marry ".> > > >

We acnnot blame the astrologers wholely. Not many enquirists have > the> > time, capacity to sit for few hours, or the inclinations to pay a> > comfortable sum of fees as remunerations, so what will the > astrologer do> > ? He has to finish as fast as he can, to serve the next customer.> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sri Bhaskar,> > >> > > I quite appreciate your analysis of Mars in 7th. In traditional> > astrology, there is unnecessary threatening about Mars in> > > 7th. In KP system only, we are able to analyse threadbare> > > with the help of Star, Sub, Planetary positions of

malelefic> > > planets in desired houses. Thanks,> > >> > > Astrologically yours,> > >> > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > -> > > Bhaskar> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:40 PM> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,> > >> > >> > > // What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of > 7th, but> > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any > way?> > //> > >> > > ( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the presence > of> > great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji,

Shri> > Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and many > other> > such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed and > who> > adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams to > these> > Masters ) -> > >> > > The answer would depend on many factors.> > >> > > 1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the 7th, > or as> > the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it would> > produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power as a> > dasha lord or antar lord.> > >> > > 2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in > consideration> > - Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ?> > >> > > 3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord

represents which other house > in> > the chart , as the owner ?> > >> > > 4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ?> > >> > > Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what does > the 7th> > Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether Mars> > would be harmful, harmless or positive .> > >> > > Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has ownership of > evil> > houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same > stands for> > Mars.> > >> > > Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge what > Mars> > can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord.> > >> > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >>

> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar,> > > >> > > > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, > but> > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any > way?> > > >> > > > Astrologically yors,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > Bhaskar> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

> Dear Sujata,> > > >> > > > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its > neither> > good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be avoided. //> > > >> > > > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in > this> > manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above > without> > checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -> > > >> > > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in > front of> > any client or native.> > > >> > > > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for > any> > native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in> > house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you > must> > always

check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass> > judgements about any issue related to the cusp.> > > >> > > > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of > Mercury,> > then the results would have been quite contrary to what you > mentioned.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das sujatadash1@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhasker> > > > > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its > neither> > good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything > without> > the full chart..> >

> > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad> > health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death > cannot> > be avoided.> > > > > Regards> > > > > sujata> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best > position ?> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > >

>> > > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very > educative> > post.> > > > > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also> > take> > > > > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his > thread.> > > > >> > > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, > rather> > than> > > > > wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > > > >> > > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > > > >> > > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal> > position> > > > > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars > less> > harmful> > > > > ?>

> > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath > <rathluther@ ...>> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I > request> > feed> > > > > back.> > > > > >> > > > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for > any> > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > > > > >> > > > > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius > and> > Aries).> > > > > > * .Mars could occupy to

be harmless by negating badhaka > sthana> > by> > > > > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII > (12th> > house> > > > > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is > house for> > > > > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV > appears> > to be> > > > > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and> > negates> > > > > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong > to> > negate> > > > > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long > as> > the> > > > > constellations are considered.> > > > > > * IX cusp in Aries

can be in the constellation of Kethu or > Venus> > or> > > > > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is> > definitely> > > > > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter,> > Saturn and> > > > > Mercury.> > > > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is > not an> > > > > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be> > considered as> > > > > safe.> > > > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is > this> > > > > constellation is not safe as well.> > > > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not> > auspicious.> > > > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.>

> > > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and> > Venus. So> > > > > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka > effects are> > > > > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the> > constellation of> > > > > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to> > tenant to> > > > > be harmless.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of > which> > house,> > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest> > Nakshatra> > > > > for Mars.> > > > > >> > > > > > c) Is

it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house?> > > > > Will it be less harmful then?> > > > > >> > > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars > occupies> > it own> > > > > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the> > other hand> > > > > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be > relatively> > safe.> > > > > >> > > > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one > studies> > the> > > > > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > > > > >> > > > > > With regards.> > > > > >> > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > >

>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > >> > > > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > > > > >> > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for > any> > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > > > > >> >

> > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of > which> > houses,> > > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > > > > >> > > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house> > > > > ?> > > > > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > > > > >> > > > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then > for> > Mars,> > > > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > > > > >> > > > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > > > > >> > > > > > regards,> > > > > >> > > > > >

Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to> > http://in.messenger ./ win/> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from

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Dear Sri L.Y.Rao,

 

In a Birth Chart, Kumbha Lagna native, Mars is lord of 3 and 10 (not a bad lordship) is posited in 7th Bhava and very close to VIII (within 3-30orn with another planet in 8th iwitn self strength, Mars is in the star of Sun at 6th. But Mars is in the sub of Venus, Yogakaraka in 5th, in the star of Jupiter lordof 2nd and 11th in 10th. Will this position cause Mars Dosha for the native, (Male chart) and if so what should be position of the Mars and other planets in partner's (gitl's chart?. Kindly enlighten me.

 

Astrologically yours,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

 

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Yogesh Rao Lajmi

Monday, October 20, 2008 8:21 PM

Re: Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

 

Dear Mohankumar,

As per K.P.,Mars causes 'dosha', popularly known as Mars Dosha,

only if Mars is in Sun's star or own star and occupying houses I.II.IV,VII,VIII & XII...

This is strictly as per K.P.,as taught by our late Guruji himself...

With kind regards,

L.Y.Rao.

 

 

B.Mohankumar B.mohankumar <b_mohan_mohan (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Sunday, 19 October, 2008 7:36:22 AMRe: Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

Dear Bhaskar and all

 

First I would like to thankyou all participatory members to hold kp system in .But unfortunatly we sometime belive traditional side because of lack of knowledge about cuspal system as krishanamurthi driven car.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>@gro ups.comSaturday, 18 October, 2008 2:06:36 PM Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

Dear all,

No planet is good or bad. They behave benefic or malefic only as per what they are supposed to give us , as per our purva karmas.

Giving justice to Mars, I would say that without a averagely strong Mars, one will have difficulty in creation or procreation. The agression of Mars, is certainly necessary in the right levels , for one to copulate.

Karma ( Action ) is denoted by Mangala. Remember where does the Mars get exalted in the natural Kundli ? In the 10th house of Saturn, Capricorn. Saturn certainly loves to reward those who do their Karmas properly through its ownership pf the 11th, Aquarius. Karma brings welfare. karma is kartavya. Without fulfilling ones Kartavya ( Duties ) one cannot be happy in life.

Wherever one finds dispute in land, property, loss of affinity with brother or wife, the result is due to amangala.

A shubh Mangal is " Rinantaka " or tne ender of rins ( Debts ). Shubh mangala is related to earthly possessions and stands for everything produced from the earth ( Bhoomi).

Karma connotes to the idea of 'sangram'. For instance challenge of Life. Karma arises from " Kama ". Under tamoguna ( Tamo nakshatras ) it will lead to blind impulsive actions, bloodsheds, might to win, actions to yield power etc.

An ashubha mangal represents obstructions to fulfillment of Kama. It denotes loss or seperation from wife or husband, imcompatibilities in relations, partner, and not in good relations with brothers.

Remember that the 8th house is denoted by the Sign Scorpio owned by Mars, a highly mystical and sexual sign , denoting secrecy . Therefore Mars, is certainly related to Sex, but pure or clandestine, open or secret, with wife or with paramour, powerful or powerless, will all depend on the strength or affliction of Mars.

Therefore as such Mars cannot be ruled out for happiness in a married couples Life, and the knowledge which comes from the traditional Rishi Munis , is without doubt, a great treasure for us.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

@gro ups.com, "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram@. ..> wrote:>> Respected members,> Sir,> As a student of astrology I would like to offer my comments on > this topic.Let all of us clearly understand that these are thoughts > of a student and so might be immature.> Mars is considered a symbol of physical voilence, aggression -both > physical as well as psycological- and to a great degree represents > lack of tender emotions. In married life these characteristics are > undesirable as those are likely to ruin the marriage.> 12th house stands for shaiyya-sukha, 1st house for one,s > nature/character, 4th house for happiness at home and homely affairs, > 7th and 8th houses for sex-related matters.All these houses can be > spoiled by Mars, its characteristics are not conducive to these > houses. This, I believe, must be the reason why we call it Mars, > Dosha. > In traditional astrology it is considered that a planet > strongly gives "Phalams" of the house it occupies, and so Mars is not > desired in these houses.> I have not read the" Readers." Has our revered Guruji anywhere > said that MarsDosha does not exist? > In my opinion, in KP, only the method of judging the Mars, > Dosha may differ.We consider that a planet strongly gives results of > its Starlord. So the positions in which mars happens to be a strong > significator of the above houses should be considered similar to mars > dosha. > Comments and corrections from veterans and students alike are > welcome.> regards,> sujat. @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,> > > > You are right partly. But in traditional astrology too, there are > many> > rules for Dosha bhanga, but in this busy world most of the > astrologers> > do not have time to see the " Dosha Bhanga " areas. Earning Quick > money,> > 2 minute noodles, 5 Minutes stirrable Chicken Soup from packets, is > the> > order of the day. The times are changing. KP astrologers are still a> > better lot. Otherwise normally people pick up just the Mars house> > placement in the chart without looking at the other factors and Lo > and> > behold the smart and intelligent astrologer is quick to exclaim and> > announce " Sir this kundli has a Mars dosha ". After some money > changing> > hands, the Mars dosha goes to " Babaji ke ghar ", and the sanction > is> > given to the couple to " go ahead and marry ".> > > > We acnnot blame the astrologers wholely. Not many enquirists have > the> > time, capacity to sit for few hours, or the inclinations to pay a> > comfortable sum of fees as remunerations, so what will the > astrologer do> > ? He has to finish as fast as he can, to serve the next customer.> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sri Bhaskar,> > >> > > I quite appreciate your analysis of Mars in 7th. In traditional> > astrology, there is unnecessary threatening about Mars in> > > 7th. In KP system only, we are able to analyse threadbare> > > with the help of Star, Sub, Planetary positions of malelefic> > > planets in desired houses. Thanks,> > >> > > Astrologically yours,> > >> > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > -> > > Bhaskar> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:40 PM> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,> > >> > >> > > // What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of > 7th, but> > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any > way?> > //> > >> > > ( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the presence > of> > great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji, Shri> > Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and many > other> > such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed and > who> > adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams to > these> > Masters ) -> > >> > > The answer would depend on many factors.> > >> > > 1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the 7th, > or as> > the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it would> > produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power as a> > dasha lord or antar lord.> > >> > > 2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in > consideration> > - Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ?> > >> > > 3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord represents which other house > in> > the chart , as the owner ?> > >> > > 4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ?> > >> > > Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what does > the 7th> > Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether Mars> > would be harmful, harmless or positive .> > >> > > Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has ownership of > evil> > houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same > stands for> > Mars.> > >> > > Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge what > Mars> > can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord.> > >> > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar,> > > >> > > > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, > but> > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any > way?> > > >> > > > Astrologically yors,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > Bhaskar> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Sujata,> > > >> > > > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its > neither> > good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be avoided. //> > > >> > > > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in > this> > manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above > without> > checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -> > > >> > > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in > front of> > any client or native.> > > >> > > > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for > any> > native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in> > house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you > must> > always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass> > judgements about any issue related to the cusp.> > > >> > > > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of > Mercury,> > then the results would have been quite contrary to what you > mentioned.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das sujatadash1@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhasker> > > > > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its > neither> > good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything > without> > the full chart..> > > > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad> > health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death > cannot> > be avoided.> > > > > Regards> > > > > sujata> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best > position ?> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > > >> > > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very > educative> > post.> > > > > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also> > take> > > > > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his > thread.> > > > >> > > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, > rather> > than> > > > > wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > > > >> > > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > > > >> > > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal> > position> > > > > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars > less> > harmful> > > > > ?> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath > <rathluther@ ...>> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I > request> > feed> > > > > back.> > > > > >> > > > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for > any> > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > > > > >> > > > > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius > and> > Aries).> > > > > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka > sthana> > by> > > > > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII > (12th> > house> > > > > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is > house for> > > > > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV > appears> > to be> > > > > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and> > negates> > > > > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong > to> > negate> > > > > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long > as> > the> > > > > constellations are considered.> > > > > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or > Venus> > or> > > > > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is> > definitely> > > > > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter,> > Saturn and> > > > > Mercury.> > > > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is > not an> > > > > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be> > considered as> > > > > safe.> > > > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is > this> > > > > constellation is not safe as well.> > > > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not> > auspicious.> > > > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > > > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and> > Venus. So> > > > > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka > effects are> > > > > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the> > constellation of> > > > > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to> > tenant to> > > > > be harmless.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of > which> > house,> > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest> > Nakshatra> > > > > for Mars.> > > > > >> > > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house?> > > > > Will it be less harmful then?> > > > > >> > > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars > occupies> > it own> > > > > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the> > other hand> > > > > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be > relatively> > safe.> > > > > >> > > > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one > studies> > the> > > > > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > > > > >> > > > > > With regards.> > > > > >> > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > >> > > > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > > > > >> > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for > any> > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > > > > >> > > > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of > which> > houses,> > > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > > > > >> > > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house> > > > > ?> > > > > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > > > > >> > > > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then > for> > Mars,> > > > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > > > > >> > > > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > > > > >> > > > > > regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to> > http://in.messenger ./ win/> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php

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1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by

T.R.RAGHUNATH-MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)

 

2. This rule is satisfied in 14% of one-time married 103 charts and

only 11% of 26 two-time married charts, 26% of four-time married

charts and 7% of five-time married 15 charts and so not reliable. (Pl

refer the finding in the File section under -

Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP Principles.doc

Mars Dosha and Marriage in KP

 

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1

wrote:

>

> Dear Mohankumar,

>                              As per

K.P.,Mars causes 'dosha', popularly known as Mars Dosha,

> only if  Mars is in Sun's star or own star and occupying houses

I.II.IV,VII,VIII & XII...

>                              This is

strictly as per K.P.,as taught by our late Guruji himself...

>                              With kind

regards,

>                               L.Y.Rao.

>

>

>

>

> B.Mohankumar B.mohankumar <b_mohan_mohan

>

> Sunday, 19 October, 2008 7:36:22 AM

> Re: Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

>

>

> Dear Bhaskar and all

>

> FirstI would like to thankyou all participatory members to hold kp

system in .But unfortunatly we sometime belive traditional side

because of lack of knowledge about cuspal system as krishanamurthi

driven car.

>

>

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>

> @gro ups.com

> Saturday, 18 October, 2008 2:06:36 PM

> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

>

>

> Dear all,

> No planet is good or bad. They behave benefic or malefic only as

per what they are supposed to give us , as per our purva karmas.

> Giving justice to Mars, I would say that without a averagely strong

Mars, one will have difficulty in creation or procreation.  The

agression of Mars, is certainly necessary in the right levels , for

one to copulate.

> Karma  ( Action ) is denoted by Mangala. Remember where does the

Mars get exalted in the natural Kundli ? In the 10th house of Saturn,

Capricorn. Saturn certainly loves to reward those who do their Karmas

properly through its ownership pf the 11th, Aquarius. Karma brings

welfare.  karma is kartavya. Without fulfilling ones Kartavya (

Duties ) one cannot be happy in life.

> Wherever one finds dispute in land, property, loss of affinity with

brother or wife, the result is due to amangala.

> A shubh Mangal is " Rinantaka " or tne ender of rins ( Debts ). 

Shubh mangala is related to earthly possessions and stands for

everything produced from the earth ( Bhoomi).

> Karma connotes to the idea of  'sangram'. For instance challenge

of Life.  Karma arises from " Kama " .  Under tamoguna ( Tamo

nakshatras   ) it will lead to blind impulsive actions,

bloodsheds, might to win, actions to yield power etc.

> An ashubha mangal represents obstructions to fulfillment of Kama. 

It denotes loss or seperation from wife or husband, imcompatibilities

in relations, partner, and not in good relations with brothers. 

> Remember that the 8th house is denoted by the Sign Scorpio owned by

Mars, a highly mystical and sexual sign  , denoting secrecy .

Therefore Mars, is certainly related to Sex, but pure or clandestine,

open or secret, with wife or with paramour, powerful or powerless,

will all depend on the strength or affliction of Mars.

> Therefore as such Mars cannot be ruled out for happiness in a

married couples Life, and the knowledge which comes from the

traditional Rishi Munis , is without doubt, a great treasure for us.

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>  

>  

>  

>  

>

> @gro ups.com, " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Respected members,

> > Sir,

> > As a student of astrology I would like to offer my comments on

> > this topic.Let all of us clearly understand that these are

thoughts

> > of a student and so might be immature.

> > Mars is considered a symbol of physical voilence, aggression -

both

> > physical as well as psycological- and to a great degree

represents

> > lack of tender emotions. In married life these characteristics

are

> > undesirable as those are likely to ruin the marriage.

> > 12th house stands for shaiyya-sukha, 1st house for one,s

> > nature/character, 4th house for happiness at home and homely

affairs,

> > 7th and 8th houses for sex-related matters.All these houses can

be

> > spoiled by Mars, its characteristics are not conducive to these

> > houses. This, I believe, must be the reason why we call it Mars,

> > Dosha.

> > In traditional astrology it is considered that a planet

> > strongly gives " Phalams " of the house it occupies, and so Mars is

not

> > desired in these houses.

> > I have not read the " Readers. " Has our revered Guruji anywhere

> > said that MarsDosha does not exist?

> > In my opinion, in KP, only the method of judging the Mars,

> > Dosha may differ.We consider that a planet strongly gives results

of

> > its Starlord. So the positions in which mars happens to be a

strong

> > significator of the above houses should be considered similar to

mars

> > dosha.

> > Comments and corrections from veterans and students alike are

> > welcome.

> > regards,

> > sujat. @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar "

> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,

> > >

> > > You are right partly. But in traditional astrology too, there

are

> > many

> > > rules for Dosha bhanga, but in this busy world most of the

> > astrologers

> > > do not have time to see the " Dosha Bhanga " areas. Earning

Quick

> > money,

> > > 2 minute noodles, 5 Minutes stirrable Chicken Soup from

packets, is

> > the

> > > order of the day. The times are changing. KP astrologers are

still a

> > > better lot. Otherwise normally people pick up just the Mars

house

> > > placement in the chart without looking at the other factors and

Lo

> > and

> > > behold the smart and intelligent astrologer is quick to exclaim

and

> > > announce " Sir this kundli has a Mars dosha " . After some money

> > changing

> > > hands, the Mars dosha goes to " Babaji ke ghar " , and the

sanction

> > is

> > > given to the couple to " go ahead and marry " .

> > >

> > > We acnnot blame the astrologers wholely. Not many enquirists

have

> > the

> > > time, capacity to sit for few hours, or the inclinations to pay

a

> > > comfortable sum of fees as remunerations, so what will the

> > astrologer do

> > > ? He has to finish as fast as he can, to serve the next

customer.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sri Bhaskar,

> > > >

> > > > I quite appreciate your analysis of Mars in 7th. In

traditional

> > > astrology, there is unnecessary threatening about Mars in

> > > > 7th. In KP system only, we are able to analyse threadbare

> > > > with the help of Star, Sub, Planetary positions of malelefic

> > > > planets in desired houses. Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Astrologically yours,

> > > >

> > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > -

> > > > Bhaskar

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:40 PM

> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best

position ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri Ramanaji,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > // What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of

> > 7th, but

> > > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage

any

> > way?

> > > //

> > > >

> > > > ( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the

presence

> > of

> > > great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji,

Shri

> > > Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and

many

> > other

> > > such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed

and

> > who

> > > adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams

to

> > these

> > > Masters ) -

> > > >

> > > > The answer would depend on many factors.

> > > >

> > > > 1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the

7th,

> > or as

> > > the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it

would

> > > produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power

as a

> > > dasha lord or antar lord.

> > > >

> > > > 2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in

> > consideration

> > > - Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ?

> > > >

> > > > 3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord represents which other

house

> > in

> > > the chart , as the owner ?

> > > >

> > > > 4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ?

> > > >

> > > > Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what

does

> > the 7th

> > > Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether

Mars

> > > would be harmful, harmless or positive .

> > > >

> > > > Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has

ownership of

> > evil

> > > houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same

> > stands for

> > > Mars.

> > > >

> > > > Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge

what

> > Mars

> > > can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " kadavasalramani@

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar,

> > > > >

> > > > > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of

7th,

> > but

> > > posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage

any

> > way?

> > > > >

> > > > > Astrologically yors,

> > > > >

> > > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > > -

> > > > > Bhaskar

> > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM

> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best

position ?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sujata,

> > > > >

> > > > > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its

> > neither

> > > good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be avoided. //

> > > > >

> > > > > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives

in

> > this

> > > manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the

above

> > without

> > > checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -

> > > > >

> > > > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in

> > front of

> > > any client or native.

> > > > >

> > > > > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad

for

> > any

> > > native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is

placed in

> > > house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because

you

> > must

> > > always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you

pass

> > > judgements about any issue related to the cusp.

> > > > >

> > > > > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of

> > Mercury,

> > > then the results would have been quite contrary to what you

> > mentioned.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das sujatadash1@

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhasker

> > > > > > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its

> > neither

> > > good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything

> > without

> > > the full chart..

> > > > > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and

bad

> > > health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best.

Death

> > cannot

> > > be avoided.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > sujata

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best

> > position ?

> > > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very

> > educative

> > > post.

> > > > > > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I

also

> > > take

> > > > > > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to

his

> > thread.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics,

> > rather

> > > than

> > > > > > wanton predictions given to non-issues.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in

Cuspal

> > > position

> > > > > > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this

Mars

> > less

> > > harmful

> > > > > > ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath

> > <rathluther@ ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > > > > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I

> > request

> > > feed

> > > > > > back.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.

> > > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise,

for

> > any

> > > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo,

Aquarius

> > and

> > > Aries).

> > > > > > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka

> > sthana

> > > by

> > > > > > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or

VIII

> > (12th

> > > house

> > > > > > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is

> > house for

> > > > > > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV

> > appears

> > > to be

> > > > > > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.

> > > > > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX

and

> > > negates

> > > > > > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes

strong

> > to

> > > negate

> > > > > > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as

long

> > as

> > > the

> > > > > > constellations are considered.

> > > > > > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu

or

> > Venus

> > > or

> > > > > > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This

is

> > > definitely

> > > > > > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of

Jupiter,

> > > Saturn and

> > > > > > Mercury.

> > > > > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it

is

> > not an

> > > > > > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be

> > > considered as

> > > > > > safe.

> > > > > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars

is

> > this

> > > > > > constellation is not safe as well.

> > > > > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not

> > > auspicious.

> > > > > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.

> > > > > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon

and

> > > Venus. So

> > > > > > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka

> > effects are

> > > > > > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the

> > > constellation of

> > > > > > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars

to

> > > tenant to

> > > > > > be harmless.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of

> > which

> > > house,

> > > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?

> > > > > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the

safest

> > > Nakshatra

> > > > > > for Mars.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in

its

> > own

> > > house?

> > > > > > Will it be less harmful then?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars

> > occupies

> > > it own

> > > > > > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On

the

> > > other hand

> > > > > > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be

> > relatively

> > > safe.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one

> > studies

> > > the

> > > > > > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With regards.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM

> > > > > > > Badhaka - What is the best

position ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise,

for

> > any

> > > > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be

harmless ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of

> > which

> > > houses,

> > > > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in

its

> > own

> > > house

> > > > > > ?

> > > > > > > Will it be less harmful then ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant,

then

> > for

> > > Mars,

> > > > > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be

harmless ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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