Badhaka - What is the best position ?

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Dear Bhaskar,

My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed back.

 

Badhakasthanaadhipati is Mars.

a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for anybadhaksthanadhipati, to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

 

 

..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).

..Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.

Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the constellations are considered.

IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury.

Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as safe.

Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this constellation is not safe as well.

Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.

So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.

The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to be harmless.

 

 

b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati? To be harmless?

 

As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra for Mars.

 

c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?

 

 

In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.

 

Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

 

With regards.

 

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

Dear all,With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for anybadhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house ?Will it be less harmful then ?For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?regards,Bhaskar.

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Dear Dr.Luther,

 

According to Dr.B.V.Raman of Bangalore, the Bhadhakasthanadhipathi is best relegated to hidden houses. In the case of Leo Lagna native, Mars position

is best at 12th to Lagna viz. Cancer.

 

Astrologically yours,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

 

-

Luther Rath

Friday, October 10, 2008 7:08 AM

Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Bhaskar,

My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed back.

 

Badhakasthanaadhipati is Mars.

a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for anybadhaksthanadhipati, to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

 

 

..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries). .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well. Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the constellations are considered. IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury. Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as safe. Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this constellation is not safe as well. Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious. So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered. The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to be harmless.

 

 

b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati? To be harmless?

 

As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra for Mars.

 

c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?

 

 

In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.

 

Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

 

With regards.

 

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

Dear all,With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for anybadhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house ?Will it be less harmful then ?For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?regards,Bhaskar.

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Hello

Traditionally Mars is considered as Rajayogathipathi for both Sun and Moon since it owns one kendra and and kona place either from Moon or Sun.

If the same Mars is in Cancer for Leo Asc.it cannot signify its own houses since it doesnt have its own star there and neither the 12 th house lords star is in cancer.KP principle states star of the planet posited enjoys maximum benefit.Only if Mars has not gone as star to any other planet,it can signify 12th as posited and it will be a feable significant.Its star lord jup or sat or mer is posited and signifys 7th or 11th ,again the 12 th problem will be nullified.Regards and Good luck

tkp--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Ramani <kadavasalramani wrote:

Ramani <kadavasalramaniRe: Badhaka - What is the best position ? Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 9:44 AM

 

 

 

Dear Dr.Luther,

 

According to Dr.B.V.Raman of Bangalore, the Bhadhakasthanadhipa thi is best relegated to hidden houses. In the case of Leo Lagna native, Mars position

is best at 12th to Lagna viz. Cancer.

 

Astrologically yours,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

 

-

Luther Rath

@gro ups.com

Friday, October 10, 2008 7:08 AM

Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Bhaskar,

My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed back.

 

Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.

a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for anybadhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

 

 

..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries). .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well. Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the constellations are considered. IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury. Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as safe. Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this constellation is not safe as well. Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious. So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered. The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to be harmless.

 

 

b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?

 

As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra for Mars.

 

c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?

 

 

In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.

 

Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

 

With regards.

 

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

Dear all,With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for anybadhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house ?Will it be less harmful then ?For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?regards,Bhaskar.

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Dear KSV Ramani,

I have gone through some writings of Dr.B.V.Raman. What you have stated is true. In my opinion also Moon's zone was safest. If we only consider the sign, Cancer is safest. Since I am KP follower and thus take in to consideration the constellation the mater differs. Cancer ha constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury. These constellations are not safe for the native. Next to Moon, venus is least harmful. So I selected Taurus in constellation of Rohini. I do not intend to contradict Dr. Raman or your statement. This was just a study for excercise. Usually we read predction by occupation of the planet and then examine how safe it is.

With regards.

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

 

Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 7:17:20 PMRe: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello

Traditionally Mars is considered as Rajayogathipathi for both Sun and Moon since it owns one kendra and and kona place either from Moon or Sun.

If the same Mars is in Cancer for Leo Asc.it cannot signify its own houses since it doesnt have its own star there and neither the 12 th house lords star is in cancer.KP principle states star of the planet posited enjoys maximum benefit.Only if Mars has not gone as star to any other planet,it can signify 12th as posited and it will be a feable significant. Its star lord jup or sat or mer is posited and signifys 7th or 11th ,again the 12 th problem will be nullified.Regards and Good luck

tkp--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?@gro ups.comFriday, October 10, 2008, 9:44 AM

 

 

 

Dear Dr.Luther,

 

According to Dr.B.V.Raman of Bangalore, the Bhadhakasthanadhipa thi is best relegated to hidden houses. In the case of Leo Lagna native, Mars position

is best at 12th to Lagna viz. Cancer.

 

Astrologically yours,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

 

-

Luther Rath

@gro ups.com

Friday, October 10, 2008 7:08 AM

Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Bhaskar,

My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed back.

 

Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.

a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for anybadhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

 

 

..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries). .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well. Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the constellations are considered. IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury. Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as safe. Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this constellation is not safe as well. Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious. So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered. The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to be harmless.

 

 

b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?

As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra for Mars.

 

c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?

 

In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.

 

Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

With regards.

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

Dear all,With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for anybadhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house ?Will it be less harmful then ?For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?regards,Bhaskar.

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Dear Dr.Luther Rath,

Thanks for your reply. In my humble opinion, Mars placed in

Cancer sign is best & safe place as Bhadhakadhipathi for Leo Lagna native for the reasons given below:

Mars becomes utter weak in Cancer (unless there is Neecha Bhanga or benefic aspects) (i) posited in debilted sign; (2) Placement in 12th Vraya Bhava) The 3 sttars in it viz.(i) Jupiter is lord of 5 & 8th (He is exalted in deep in Sat.star only); (ii) Satn. is lord of 6th & 7th and (iii) Merc.lord 2 & 12th (Mars becomes deep debilation) here. 28Deg) In KP Prediction, a Planet in a Bhava is a "Source"

Thus when Mars in Jupiter, it will signify 5 & 8th thro' the source of Mars lord of 4 & 9. Mars will destroy 8th evil power

(double negative make on positive-8th effects will be considerably reduced by the planet placed in 12th (weak).

Mars in Sat. star, lord of 6th & 7th, then also it will considerably reduced Maraka power of 7th being in 12th.

If Mars is in Merc. where he gets deep debilation, the power of 2 and 11 will get reduced, specially its Maraka Bhava 2nd

of Merc. Thus Cancer is he best safe for Mars Bhadhakadhipathi to Leo native.

Your opinion of Taurus for placement of Mars does not augur well for the reason SUN and MARS are very powerful in 10th getting Dig Bala for them As Bhadhakathipathi his strength is not desirable. When Mars is in Sun star. he will give the result of Lagna through the source of Mars as 4th and 9th lord. Thus connection of 9th to Lagna is very dangerous. When Mars in Rohini, the sign is exalted place for Moon. Mars will give the result of 12th (apart from huge expenditure, 12th is a place for Moksha) thro' source Mars lord of 4th & 9th ( & also Bhadhakadhipathi) Mars in own star Mars in Taurus is very very harmful

because 10th Mars is very powerful due to Dig Bala.

Therefore I stick to 12th (Cancer sign) for Mars for Leo native. Your valuable comment please.

Astrologially yours,

K.S.V.Ramani

 

-

Luther Rath

Friday, October 10, 2008 9:09 PM

Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

 

Dear KSV Ramani,

I have gone through some writings of Dr.B.V.Raman. What you have stated is true. In my opinion also Moon's zone was safest. If we only consider the sign, Cancer is safest. Since I am KP follower and thus take in to consideration the constellation the mater differs. Cancer ha constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury. These constellations are not safe for the native. Next to Moon, venus is least harmful. So I selected Taurus in constellation of Rohini. I do not intend to contradict Dr. Raman or your statement. This was just a study for excercise. Usually we read predction by occupation of the planet and then examine how safe it is.

With regards.

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

 

Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 7:17:20 PMRe: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello

Traditionally Mars is considered as Rajayogathipathi for both Sun and Moon since it owns one kendra and and kona place either from Moon or Sun.

If the same Mars is in Cancer for Leo Asc.it cannot signify its own houses since it doesnt have its own star there and neither the 12 th house lords star is in cancer.KP principle states star of the planet posited enjoys maximum benefit.Only if Mars has not gone as star to any other planet,it can signify 12th as posited and it will be a feable significant. Its star lord jup or sat or mer is posited and signifys 7th or 11th ,again the 12 th problem will be nullified.Regards and Good luck

tkp--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?@gro ups.comFriday, October 10, 2008, 9:44 AM

 

 

 

Dear Dr.Luther,

 

According to Dr.B.V.Raman of Bangalore, the Bhadhakasthanadhipa thi is best relegated to hidden houses. In the case of Leo Lagna native, Mars position

is best at 12th to Lagna viz. Cancer.

 

Astrologically yours,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

 

-

Luther Rath

@gro ups.com

Friday, October 10, 2008 7:08 AM

Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Bhaskar,

My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed back.

 

Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.

a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for anybadhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

 

 

..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries). .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well. Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the constellations are considered. IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury. Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as safe. Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this constellation is not safe as well. Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious. So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered. The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to be harmless.

 

 

b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?

As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra for Mars.

 

c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?

 

In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.

 

Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

With regards.

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

Dear all,With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for anybadhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house ?Will it be less harmful then ?For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?regards,Bhaskar.

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Dear Shri Lutherji,

 

I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.

I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also take

opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.

 

This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather than

wanton predictions given to non-issues.

 

I also would like to take this thread further ahead -

 

Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position

( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful

?

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar,

> My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed

back.

>

> Badhakasthanaadhipati is Mars.

> a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any

> badhaksthanadhipati, to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

>

> * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).

> * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by

occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house

to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for

accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be

safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.

> * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates

badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate

the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the

constellations are considered.

> * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or

Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely

an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and

Mercury.

> * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an

auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as

safe.

> * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this

constellation is not safe as well.

> * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.

> * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.

> * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So

they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are

considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of

Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to

be harmless.

>

>

> b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house,

for this Badhaksthanadhipati? To be harmless?

> * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra

for Mars.

>

> c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?

Will it be less harmful then?

>

> * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own

house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand

if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.

>

> Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the

sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

>

> With regards.

>

> Dr. Luther Rath.

>

>

>

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM

> Badhaka - What is the best position ?

>

>

>

> Dear all,

>

> With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.

>

> a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any

> badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?

>

> b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,

> for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?

>

> c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house

?

> Will it be less harmful then ?

>

> For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,

> what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?

>

> What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

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Dear Dr Rath

11th house has the power to become auspicious for lagnas other than movable. Why don't you cosider the sub as well. If ita in the sub of significatir of good houses, its good.

Regards

Sujata--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Badhaka - What is the best position ? Date: Friday, 10 October, 2008, 7:08 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Bhaskar,

My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed back.

 

Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.

a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for anybadhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

 

 

..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).

..Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.

Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the constellations are considered.

IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury.

Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as safe.

Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this constellation is not safe as well.

Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.

So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.

The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to be harmless.

 

 

b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?

 

As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra for Mars.

 

c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?

 

 

In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.

 

Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

 

With regards.

 

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

Dear all,With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for anybadhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house ?Will it be less harmful then ?For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?regards,Bhaskar.

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Dear Bhasker

If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything without the full chart.

Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death cannot be avoided.

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sujata--- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ? Date: Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM

 

 

Dear Shri Lutherji,I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also takeopposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather thanwanton predictions given to non-issues.I also would like to take this thread further ahead -Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful?regards/Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar,> My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feedback.>> Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> a) Which is the best

position - house placement wise, for any> badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?>> * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana byoccupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th houseto IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house foraccidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to besafe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negatesbadhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negatethe result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as theconstellations are considered.> * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus orSun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitelyan

advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn andMercury.> * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not anauspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered assafe.> * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is thisconstellation is not safe as well.> * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. Sothey are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects areconsidered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation ofRohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant tobe harmless.>>> b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house,for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> * As per the last

clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatrafor Mars.>> c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?Will it be less harmful then?>> * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it ownhouse Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other handif it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.>> Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies thesub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.>> With regards.>> Dr. Luther Rath.>>>> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> @gro ups.com> Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> Badhaka - What is the best position

?>>>> Dear all,>> With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.>> a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?>> b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?>> c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?> Will it be less harmful then ?>> For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?>> What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>

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Dear Sir,

I am sorry, I could not catch your point. You say Mars is in Lagna in Leo. How can it move to 12th cusp about 30 degrees back in Cancer! Kindly clerify.

With regards.

Dr. Luther.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 4:00:36 PM Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

Dear Shri Lutherji,I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also takeopposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather thanwanton predictions given to non-issues.I also would like to take this thread further ahead -Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful?regards/Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar,> My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feedback.>>

Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?>> * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana byoccupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th houseto IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house foraccidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to besafe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negatesbadhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negatethe result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as theconstellations are considered.> * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus orSun. Scorpio does

not contain these constellations. This is definitelyan advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn andMercury.> * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not anauspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered assafe.> * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is thisconstellation is not safe as well.> * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. Sothey are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects areconsidered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation ofRohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant tobe harmless.>>> b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house,for this

Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatrafor Mars.>> c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?Will it be less harmful then?>> * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it ownhouse Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other handif it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.>> Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies thesub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.>> With regards.>> Dr. Luther Rath.>>>> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> @gro ups.com> Sent:

Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> Badhaka - What is the best position ?>>>> Dear all,>> With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.>> a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?>> b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?>> c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?> Will it be less harmful then ?>> For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?>> What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>

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What I understand is that the Mars is in lagna based on Parasara bhava madhya system. Mars is in 12th based on k.p. bhava begin system.

 

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ? Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 1:21 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Sir,

I am sorry, I could not catch your point. You say Mars is in Lagna in Leo. How can it move to 12th cusp about 30 degrees back in Cancer! Kindly clerify.

With regards.

Dr. Luther.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>@gro ups.comSunday, October 12, 2008 4:00:36 PM Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

Dear Shri Lutherji,I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also takeopposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather thanwanton predictions given to non-issues.I also would like to take this thread further ahead -Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful?regards/Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar,> My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feedback.>> Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> a) Which is the best

position - house placement wise, for any> badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?>> * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana byoccupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th houseto IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house foraccidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to besafe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negatesbadhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negatethe result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as theconstellations are considered.> * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus orSun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitelyan

advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn andMercury.> * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not anauspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered assafe.> * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is thisconstellation is not safe as well.> * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. Sothey are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects areconsidered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation ofRohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant tobe harmless.>>> b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house,for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> * As per the last

clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatrafor Mars.>> c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?Will it be less harmful then?>> * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it ownhouse Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other handif it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.>> Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies thesub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.>> With regards.>> Dr. Luther Rath.>>>> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> @gro ups.com> Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> Badhaka - What is the best position

?>>>> Dear all,>> With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.>> a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?>> b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?>> c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?> Will it be less harmful then ?>> For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?>> What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>

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Very late, I could understand that the topic has come to the group toopinion of members for preparing a research paper. Had I known earlier I would not have attempted in that way. In fact this is not a suitable topic for presentating in an international conference of astrologers. The material provided is not adequate. The result will not have any practical application. I am undergoing through mental preparation to take up the issue and put up before the group.

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sujata das <sujatadash1 Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:02:22 PMRe: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dr Rath

11th house has the power to become auspicious for lagnas other than movable. Why don't you cosider the sub as well. If ita in the sub of significatir of good houses, its good.

Regards

Sujata--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?@gro ups.comFriday, 10 October, 2008, 7:08 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Bhaskar,

My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed back.

 

Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.

a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for anybadhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).

..Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.

Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the constellations are considered.

IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury.

Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as safe.

Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this constellation is not safe as well.

Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.

So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.

The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to be harmless.

b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?

As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra for Mars.

c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?

In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.

Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

Dear all,With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for anybadhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house ?Will it be less harmful then ?For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?regards,Bhaskar.

 

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Dear Shri Lutherji,

 

Yes Mr. Dhanbalanji is right. Mars is in Leo 6.19.00 along'with

Rahu also in Leo 6.41.00 but both these move to the 12th Cusp.

The 12th Cusp begins from 16.29.34 Cancer and extends uptil

16.06.22 Leo. So Mars remains in Leo, but the Cusp changes.

 

Now what are your comments on the same ?

 

I also see you mentioning something about research to Sujata.

Please note that if you are talking about me, then I am not connected to

any research work, and dont have time for all this, and not affiliated with

any International astro organisation. I am nowhere

connected with these. If at all

in Life, a time comes when I have to do some research work, then

it would be done on my own experience and not on others sweat.

I already have crores rupee family business which I have

left , and work and earn from my own labours and not on others.

I am a very small and unknown person and not at all linked

to what you have mentioned.

 

If You have received some information about this, then please inform the

members about the same, so that the afflicted parties have a chance to

give their explanations, before you misunderstand and misjudge.

 

Please clear any misunderstandings, before you move ahead.Here you are meeting a man who does not even ask for a glass of water from anyone so remain assured and continue.

 

You please come out clear with what you meant about

" research work " and who gave you this impression, so that we can clear this.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:>> Dear Sujataji,> Very late, I could understand that the topic has come to the group toopinion of members for preparing a research paper. Had I known earlier I would not have attempted in that way. In fact this is not a suitable topic for presentating in an international conference of astrologers. The material provided is not adequate. The result will not have any practical application. I am undergoing through mental preparation to take up the issue and put up before the group.> With regards.> Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > sujata das sujatadash1 > Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:02:22 PM> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > Dear Dr Rath> 11th house has the power to become auspicious for lagnas other than movable. Why don't you cosider the sub as well. If ita in the sub of significatir of good houses, its good.> Regards> Sujata> > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > Luther Rath rathluther >> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> @gro ups.com> Friday, 10 October, 2008, 7:08 AM> > > Dear Bhaskar,> My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed back.> > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > * ..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the constellations are considered.> * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury.> * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as safe.> * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this constellation is not safe as well.> * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to be harmless.> > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless? > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra for Mars.> > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then? > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.> > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps. > > With regards. > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> @gro ups.com> Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > Dear all,> > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house ?> Will it be less harmful then ?> > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > ________________________________> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.>

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I am extremely sorry if I have hurt you though unintentionally. Kindly excuse me for my mis interpretation. I am In the massage box some where I read that an international conference is being held in Hyderabad in November this year. And some papers are to be presented in that conference. Wrongly perhaps I understood that this study is also one that is intended to be presented. I beg excuse again for my mis understanding. How ever you need ot feel low about it. We should be happy if we can conduct some seminars or conferences whether national or international. I acually intended to present a way how to prepare a paper for pesentation. I never intended to tell any thing wrong about you. I wanted to push a guiding line only. If any does desire to do some research work for publication of presentation may go through my following few lines. Just 5 minutes I tried to attach the file but failed , I don't know why. So I am copying it here. I wanted to attach

the file since it is quite long. I shall be happy if you express that you have excused me. Please go through the following.

 

Respected Scholars,

I am happy to know that there will be an International conference of Astrology shortly in Hyderabad. I am too happy that some of our members desire to present some papers in the conference. Now there is a project from our scholar Sri Bhaskarji. But with much constrain I would like to put forth that when we do a research on any topic we have to observe certain system. I would like to give some hints on this.

A project has to be made and studied following certain criteria under certain headings..

Ideally the headings should be as follows: -

I.. Objective of the study.

II.. Material.

III. Method.

IV. Observation.

V. Summery.

VI. Conclusion.

 

I. Objective of the study.

 

We should have specific aim and objectives to obtain from the study the result of which should some way help us in practice. In this case the objectives are as follows.

 

a) Which is the best position –house placement wise, for any badhakasthanadhipati, to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses, for this badhakasthanadhipati? To be harmless?

c) Is it good for a badhakasthanadhipati to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?

 

There are three objectives. The research scholar wants to know the sign which if the badhakasthanadhipati takes occupation of, it shall not be harmful.

The scholar also wants to find out which is the Nakshatra lord of the badhakasthanadhipati to modify the badhaka effect of the Adhipati.

Third thing he wants to find out is if a badhakasthanadhipati is less harmful when it occupies its own house. Well the answer can be derived from the analysis done for objective “a”. So this is a secondary objective.

The main objectives are “a” and “b”.

Till now it is OK to some extent.

 

II.. Material.

The material selected for the study is as follows: -

 

For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be the best house for it

to be placed in?

 

Before we go to “Material” section, I would like to go back to the “Objectives”. Here he mentions “For Fixed Signs”. That means the objective has become little more specific. Now the objectives can be reformed as, “For people born in fixed signs, i.e. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius, which should be the best position for the badhakasthanadhipati to be least harmful”. Since we are considering Ascendant in fixed signs we mean the lord of IX as badhakasthanadhipati, since we conceive that the IX house is the badhakasthana for Ascendant in fixed signs. So the focus is the IX lord.

Now the objectives “a” and “b” can be in one objective only. The only objective now can be as follows: -

“Which is the best position for lord of IX in a chart, for people born in fixed signs, to be harmless?”

This objective covers all.

Now going to the material to be used to be studied the Scholar has given, “suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be the best house for it to be placed in?”

When we review this sentence we find that we have 1. a blank chart and 2. Ascendant is in Leo. This is incomplete and quite inadequate for a study.

Inadequacies are as follows: -

 

We do not know the exact longitude of the Ascendant.

We do not know the position of other cusps.

We do not know the position of the planets.

With out having the above data it shall be utterly impossible to study anything what to speak about a sensitive issue like badhaka effect of lord of IX.

In my opinion we should have taken a real horoscope for study.

Next, from recent correspondences, it comes to mind that the Scholar and many of us have in mind to focus on the XII bhaba. The conception that the badhakasthanadhipati if occupies XII bhava it does indict death to the person.

Therefore we should have selected at least 4 horoscopes with the Ascendant in Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius having the IX lord posited in XII. From these horoscopes we should try to show that the Lord of IX did not cause death. By doing so we could have proved that XII is the safest place where in the IX lord being posited does not indict death.

Thus I would like to point out that the material is quite inadequate for study.

 

III. Method.

In these days we follow many methods for prediction. We have to be very specific which method we use for this particular study. We have to mention according to which method we observe/study and arrive at the conclusion. The methods could be as follows: -

 

Traditional.

Stellar Astrology KSK.

Sub Theory.

4 step theory.

Any other.

I would like to say that the methods should not be mixed ones. It should not be any one the above or any method propounded by the Research Scholar (the new method should be explained).

 

IV. Observation.

 

One has to explain the observations/justifications in detail.

 

V. Summery.

 

One has to summarize the observations in brief.

 

VI. Conclusion

In conclusion we should clearly mention whether we could find out the answer to our question, whether we arrived at the goal of our objective.

We could mention some thing as follows: -

 

Such and such position of lord of IX in a chart, for people born in fixed signs, is harmless. OR

No position can be safe

Could not arrive at any decision and further study is necessary. In this case some clues and criteria have to be indicated for further research to guide others to continue the search ahead.

If we add the references at the end the study shall be more authentic..

The preparation has to be as suggested above. Presentation in the conference may be according to convenience.

 

So, concluding, according to me, in this particular study, we have to review the objectives, the material and finalize the method we want to use.

On the contrary I would like to add that this objective shall not help us in any way in practice. One may not find in life time, unless he is fortunate enough, a single horoscope with such a fortunate position of the IX lord.

 

Comments of seniors are cordially invited.

With most humble and due regards to all the members.

 

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:59:14 PM Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

Dear Shri Lutherji,

 

Yes Mr. Dhanbalanji is right. Mars is in Leo 6.19.00 along'with

Rahu also in Leo 6.41.00 but both these move to the 12th Cusp.

The 12th Cusp begins from 16.29.34 Cancer and extends uptil

16.06.22 Leo.. So Mars remains in Leo, but the Cusp changes.

 

Now what are your comments on the same ?

 

I also see you mentioning something about research to Sujata.

Please note that if you are talking about me, then I am not connected to

any research work, and dont have time for all this, and not affiliated with

any International astro organisation. I am nowhere

connected with these. If at all

in Life, a time comes when I have to do some research work, then

it would be done on my own experience and not on others sweat.

I already have crores rupee family business which I have

left , and work and earn from my own labours and not on others.

I am a very small and unknown person and not at all linked

to what you have mentioned.

 

If You have received some information about this, then please inform the

members about the same, so that the afflicted parties have a chance to

give their explanations, before you misunderstand and misjudge.

 

Please clear any misunderstandings, before you move ahead.Here you are meeting a man who does not even ask for a glass of water from anyone so remain assured and continue.

 

You please come out clear with what you meant about

" research work " and who gave you this impression, so that we can clear this.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sujataji,> Very late, I could understand that the topic has come to the group toopinion of members for preparing a research paper. Had I known earlier I would not have attempted in that way. In fact this is not a suitable topic for presentating in an international conference of astrologers. The material provided is not adequate. The result will not have any practical application. I am undergoing through mental preparation to take up the issue and put up before the group.> With regards.> Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> @gro ups.com> Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:02:22 PM> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> >

> Dear Dr Rath> 11th house has the power to become auspicious for lagnas other than movable. Why don't you cosider the sub as well. If ita in the sub of significatir of good houses, its good.> Regards> Sujata> > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > Luther Rath rathluther >> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> @gro ups.com> Friday, 10 October, 2008, 7:08 AM> > > Dear Bhaskar,> My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed back.> > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > * ..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> * .Mars

could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the constellations are considered.> * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury.> * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as safe.> *

Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this constellation is not safe as well.> * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to be harmless.> > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless? > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra for Mars.> > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then? > > * In this particular instance we may

note that if Mars occupies it own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.> > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps. > > With regards. > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> @gro ups.com> Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > Dear all,> > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To

be harmless ?> > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house ?> Will it be less harmful then ?> > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Lutherji,

I hope that you have cleared yourself of any misunderstanding about me and my intentions. This was a pure technical query aimed at understanding the harmless position of badhaka Lords.

 

I hope you are now convinced that I am not affiliated to any seminar, conference, research, research papers, or at all connected to any attendee of any seminar, nor do I have any knowledge of any such seminar being held anywhere in the world. I also do not have any time for the next 5-7 years to enter such luxuries , as am busy earning my

monthly expenditures like any other humble middle class

householder in Bombay. I have never visited Hyderabd more than once in my Life, nor do I have time to leave Bombay , from my daily duties. Here the position is such that daily one has to lower the tumbler daily in the well, for his daily water, and one cannot think of any other activities as he will miss his daily lunch and dinner, if he indulges in luxurious pastimes.

 

Now coming to the particular query I put up. That was my own chart. The birth details are as under -

 

28th June 1961 Time - 10.15am

Place Eluru ( Near Vijaywada ) 16.45 N, 81.09 E

 

I have already passed my Mars Mahadasha, so it is obvious that I am not looking for any predictions, but pure technical pointers.

 

When I mentioned that Mars is in Leo, in the Natal Chart, I

meant that the sign placement of Mars was Leo. But

when we make the placidus ( KP ) Chart, in the house

divisions due to the 12th Cusp beginning 16.29.34 Cancer

and extending uptil 16.06.22 Leo, naturally Mars will land

on this side of the Border, that is it would now move to the 12th cusp.instead of being in the 1st house, in the natal Chart, without House divisions.

 

Now the above was KP.

 

My query was - will this Mars be harmful, or harmless in the 12th Cusp, but sign remaining unchanged, which is Leo ?

 

I also appreciate your way of presentation and the hard work gone behind it. I suppose you are a perfect candudate for seminars, conferences and doing research work. This is genuine praise for the way you have presented your article.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> I am extremely sorry if I have hurt you though unintentionally. Kindly excuse me for my mis interpretation. I am In the massage box some where I read that an international conference is being held in Hyderabad in November this year. And some papers are to be presented in that conference. Wrongly perhaps I understood that this study is also one that is intended to be presented. I beg excuse again for my mis understanding. How ever you need ot feel low about it. We should be happy if we can conduct some seminars or conferences whether national or international. I acually intended to present a way how to prepare a paper for pesentation. I never intended to tell any thing wrong about you. I wanted to push a guiding line only. If any does desire to do some research work for publication of presentation may go through my following few lines. Just 5 minutes I tried to attach the file but failed , I don't know why. So I am copying it here. I wanted to attach the> file since it is quite long. I shall be happy if you express that you have excused me. Please go through the following.> > > Respected Scholars,> I am happy to know that there will be an International conference of Astrology shortly in Hyderabad. I am too happy that some of our members desire to present some papers in the conference. Now there is a project from our scholar Sri Bhaskarji. But with much constrain I would like to put forth that when we do a research on any topic we have to observe certain system. I would like to give some hints on this.> A project has to be made and studied following certain criteria under certain headings.> Ideally the headings should be as follows: -> I.. Objective of the study.> II.. Material.> III. Method.> IV. Observation.> V. Summery.> VI. Conclusion.> > I. Objective of the study.> > We should have specific aim and objectives to obtain from the study the result of which should some way help us in practice. In this case the objectives are as follows.> > a) Which is the best position –house placement wise, for any badhakasthanadhipati, to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses, for this badhakasthanadhipati? To be harmless?> c) Is it good for a badhakasthanadhipati to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?> > There are three objectives. The research scholar wants to know the sign which if the badhakasthanadhipati takes occupation of, it shall not be harmful.> The scholar also wants to find out which is the Nakshatra lord of the badhakasthanadhipati to modify the badhaka effect of the Adhipati.> Third thing he wants to find out is if a badhakasthanadhipati is less harmful when it occupies its own house. Well the answer can be derived from the analysis done for objective "a". So this is a secondary objective.> The main objectives are "a" and "b".> Till now it is OK to some extent.> > II.. Material.> The material selected for the study is as follows: -> > For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be the best house for it > to be placed in?> > Before we go to "Material" section, I would like to go back to the "Objectives". Here he mentions "For Fixed Signs". That means the objective has become little more specific. Now the objectives can be reformed as, "For people born in fixed signs, i.e. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius, which should be the best position for the badhakasthanadhipati to be least harmful". Since we are considering Ascendant in fixed signs we mean the lord of IX as badhakasthanadhipati, since we conceive that the IX house is the badhakasthana for Ascendant in fixed signs. So the focus is the IX lord.> Now the objectives "a" and "b" can be in one objective only. The only objective now can be as follows: -> "Which is the best position for lord of IX in a chart, for people born in fixed signs, to be harmless?"> This objective covers all.> Now going to the material to be used to be studied the Scholar has given, "suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be the best house for it to be placed in?"> When we review this sentence we find that we have 1. a blank chart and 2. Ascendant is in Leo. This is incomplete and quite inadequate for a study.> Inadequacies are as follows: -> 1. We do not know the exact longitude of the Ascendant.> 2. We do not know the position of other cusps.> 3. We do not know the position of the planets.> With out having the above data it shall be utterly impossible to study anything what to speak about a sensitive issue like badhaka effect of lord of IX.> In my opinion we should have taken a real horoscope for study.> Next, from recent correspondences, it comes to mind that the Scholar and many of us have in mind to focus on the XII bhaba. The conception that the badhakasthanadhipati if occupies XII bhava it does indict death to the person.> Therefore we should have selected at least 4 horoscopes with the Ascendant in Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius having the IX lord posited in XII. From these horoscopes we should try to show that the Lord of IX did not cause death. By doing so we could have proved that XII is the safest place where in the IX lord being posited does not indict death.> Thus I would like to point out that the material is quite inadequate for study.> > III. Method..> In these days we follow many methods for prediction. We have to be very specific which method we use for this particular study. We have to mention according to which method we observe/study and arrive at the conclusion. The methods could be as follows: -> 1. Traditional.> 2. Stellar Astrology KSK.> 3. Sub Theory.> 4. 4 step theory.> 5. Any other.> I would like to say that the methods should not be mixed ones. It should not be any one the above or any method propounded by the Research Scholar (the new method should be explained).> > IV. Observation.> > One has to explain the observations/justifications in detail.> > V. Summery.> > One has to summarize the observations in brief.> > VI. Conclusion> In conclusion we should clearly mention whether we could find out the answer to our question, whether we arrived at the goal of our objective..> We could mention some thing as follows: -> 1. Such and such position of lord of IX in a chart, for people born in fixed signs, is harmless. OR> 2. No position can be safe > 3. Could not arrive at any decision and further study is necessary. In this case some clues and criteria have to be indicated for further research to guide others to continue the search ahead.> If we add the references at the end the study shall be more authentic.> The preparation has to be as suggested above. Presentation in the conference may be according to convenience.> > So, concluding, according to me, in this particular study, we have to review the objectives, the material and finalize the method we want to use.> On the contrary I would like to add that this objective shall not help us in any way in practice. One may not find in life time, unless he is fortunate enough, a single horoscope with such a fortunate position of the IX lord.> > Comments of seniors are cordially invited.> With most humble and due regards to all the members.> > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Monday, October 13, 2008 10:59:14 PM> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > Yes Mr. Dhanbalanji is right. Mars is in Leo 6.19.00 along'with > Rahu also in Leo 6.41.00 but both these move to the 12th Cusp.> The 12th Cusp begins from 16.29.34 Cancer and extends uptil> 16.06.22 Leo. So Mars remains in Leo, but the Cusp changes.> > Now what are your comments on the same ?> > I also see you mentioning something about research to Sujata.> Please note that if you are talking about me, then I am not connected to> any research work, and dont have time for all this, and not affiliated with> any International astro organisation. I am nowhere> connected with these. If at all> in Life, a time comes when I have to do some research work, then> it would be done on my own experience and not on others sweat. > I already have crores rupee family business which I have> left , and work and earn from my own labours and not on others. > I am a very small and unknown person and not at all linked> to what you have mentioned. > > If You have received some information about this, then please inform the > members about the same, so that the afflicted parties have a chance to> give their explanations, before you misunderstand and misjudge.> > Please clear any misunderstandings, before you move ahead.Here you are meeting a man who does not even ask for a glass of water from anyone so remain assured and continue. > > You please come out clear with what you meant about > " research work " and who gave you this impression, so that we can clear this. > > best wishes,> Bhaskar.> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Sujataji,> > Very late, I could understand that the topic has come to the group toopinion of members for preparing a research paper. Had I known earlier I would not have attempted in that way. In fact this is not a suitable topic for presentating in an international conference of astrologers. The material provided is not adequate. The result will not have any practical application. I am undergoing through mental preparation to take up the issue and put up before the group.> > With regards.> > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > > > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> > @gro ups.com> > Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:02:22 PM> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > > > Dear Dr Rath> > 11th house has the power to become auspicious for lagnas other than movable. Why don't you cosider the sub as well. If ita in the sub of significatir of good houses, its good.> > Regards> > Sujata> > > > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 10 October, 2008, 7:08 AM> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar,> > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed back.> > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > > > * ..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the constellations are considered.> > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury.> > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as safe.> > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this constellation is not safe as well.> > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to be harmless.> > > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless? > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra for Mars.> > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then? > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.> > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps. > > > > With regards. > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > @gro ups.com> > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house ?> > Will it be less harmful then ?> > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar

 

Where there any change in your job in Mars/Moon?

 

Thanks...........Sundar

--- On Tue, 14/10/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ? Date: Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 11:44 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Shri Lutherji,

I hope that you have cleared yourself of any misunderstanding about me and my intentions. This was a pure technical query aimed at understanding the harmless position of badhaka Lords.

 

I hope you are now convinced that I am not affiliated to any seminar, conference, research, research papers, or at all connected to any attendee of any seminar, nor do I have any knowledge of any such seminar being held anywhere in the world. I also do not have any time for the next 5-7 years to enter such luxuries , as am busy earning my

monthly expenditures like any other humble middle class

householder in Bombay. I have never visited Hyderabd more than once in my Life, nor do I have time to leave Bombay , from my daily duties. Here the position is such that daily one has to lower the tumbler daily in the well, for his daily water, and one cannot think of any other activities as he will miss his daily lunch and dinner, if he indulges in luxurious pastimes.

 

Now coming to the particular query I put up. That was my own chart. The birth details are as under -

 

28th June 1961 Time - 10.15am

Place Eluru ( Near Vijaywada ) 16.45 N, 81.09 E

 

I have already passed my Mars Mahadasha, so it is obvious that I am not looking for any predictions, but pure technical pointers.

 

When I mentioned that Mars is in Leo, in the Natal Chart, I

meant that the sign placement of Mars was Leo. But

when we make the placidus ( KP ) Chart, in the house

divisions due to the 12th Cusp beginning 16.29.34 Cancer

and extending uptil 16.06.22 Leo, naturally Mars will land

on this side of the Border, that is it would now move to the 12th cusp.instead of being in the 1st house, in the natal Chart, without House divisions.

 

Now the above was KP.

 

My query was - will this Mars be harmful, or harmless in the 12th Cusp, but sign remaining unchanged, which is Leo ?

 

I also appreciate your way of presentation and the hard work gone behind it. I suppose you are a perfect candudate for seminars, conferences and doing research work. This is genuine praise for the way you have presented your article.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> I am extremely sorry if I have hurt you though unintentionally. Kindly excuse me for my mis interpretation. I am In the massage box some where I read that an international conference is being held in Hyderabad in November this year. And some papers are to be presented in that conference. Wrongly perhaps I understood that this study is also one that is intended to be presented. I beg excuse again for my mis understanding. How ever you need ot feel low about it. We should be happy if we can conduct some seminars or conferences whether national or international. I acually intended to present a way how to prepare a paper for pesentation. I never intended to tell any thing wrong about you. I wanted to push a guiding line only. If any does desire to do some research work for publication of presentation may go through my following few

lines. Just 5 minutes I tried to attach the file but failed , I don't know why. So I am copying it here. I wanted to attach the> file since it is quite long. I shall be happy if you express that you have excused me. Please go through the following.> > > Respected Scholars,> I am happy to know that there will be an International conference of Astrology shortly in Hyderabad. I am too happy that some of our members desire to present some papers in the conference. Now there is a project from our scholar Sri Bhaskarji. But with much constrain I would like to put forth that when we do a research on any topic we have to observe certain system. I would like to give some hints on this.> A project has to be made and studied following certain criteria under certain headings.> Ideally the headings should be as follows: -> I.. Objective of the study.> II.. Material.> III. Method.> IV.

Observation.> V. Summery.> VI. Conclusion.> > I. Objective of the study.> > We should have specific aim and objectives to obtain from the study the result of which should some way help us in practice. In this case the objectives are as follows.> > a) Which is the best position –house placement wise, for any badhakasthanadhipat i, to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses, for this badhakasthanadhipat i? To be harmless?> c) Is it good for a badhakasthanadhipat i to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?> > There are three objectives. The research scholar wants to know the sign which if the badhakasthanadhipat i takes occupation of, it shall not be harmful.> The scholar also wants to find out which is the

Nakshatra lord of the badhakasthanadhipat i to modify the badhaka effect of the Adhipati.> Third thing he wants to find out is if a badhakasthanadhipat i is less harmful when it occupies its own house. Well the answer can be derived from the analysis done for objective "a". So this is a secondary objective.> The main objectives are "a" and "b".> Till now it is OK to some extent.> > II.. Material.> The material selected for the study is as follows: -> > For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be the best house for it > to be placed in?> > Before we go to "Material" section, I would like to go back to the "Objectives" . Here he mentions "For Fixed Signs". That means the objective has become little more specific. Now the objectives can be reformed as, "For people born in fixed signs, i.e. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius, which should be

the best position for the badhakasthanadhipat i to be least harmful". Since we are considering Ascendant in fixed signs we mean the lord of IX as badhakasthanadhipat i, since we conceive that the IX house is the badhakasthana for Ascendant in fixed signs. So the focus is the IX lord.> Now the objectives "a" and "b" can be in one objective only. The only objective now can be as follows: -> "Which is the best position for lord of IX in a chart, for people born in fixed signs, to be harmless?"> This objective covers all.> Now going to the material to be used to be studied the Scholar has given, "suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be the best house for it to be placed in?"> When we review this sentence we find that we have 1. a blank chart and 2. Ascendant is in Leo. This is incomplete and quite inadequate for a study.> Inadequacies are as follows: -> 1. We do not know the exact longitude of the

Ascendant.> 2. We do not know the position of other cusps.> 3. We do not know the position of the planets.> With out having the above data it shall be utterly impossible to study anything what to speak about a sensitive issue like badhaka effect of lord of IX.> In my opinion we should have taken a real horoscope for study.> Next, from recent correspondences, it comes to mind that the Scholar and many of us have in mind to focus on the XII bhaba. The conception that the badhakasthanadhipat i if occupies XII bhava it does indict death to the person.> Therefore we should have selected at least 4 horoscopes with the Ascendant in Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius having the IX lord posited in XII. From these horoscopes we should try to show that the Lord of IX did not cause death. By doing so we could have proved that XII is the safest place where in the IX lord being posited does not indict death.> Thus I

would like to point out that the material is quite inadequate for study.> > III. Method..> In these days we follow many methods for prediction. We have to be very specific which method we use for this particular study. We have to mention according to which method we observe/study and arrive at the conclusion. The methods could be as follows: -> 1. Traditional.> 2. Stellar Astrology KSK.> 3. Sub Theory.> 4. 4 step theory.> 5. Any other.> I would like to say that the methods should not be mixed ones. It should not be any one the above or any method propounded by the Research Scholar (the new method should be explained).> > IV. Observation.> > One has to explain the observations/ justifications in detail.> > V. Summery.> > One has to summarize the observations in brief.> > VI.

Conclusion> In conclusion we should clearly mention whether we could find out the answer to our question, whether we arrived at the goal of our objective..> We could mention some thing as follows: -> 1. Such and such position of lord of IX in a chart, for people born in fixed signs, is harmless. OR> 2. No position can be safe > 3. Could not arrive at any decision and further study is necessary. In this case some clues and criteria have to be indicated for further research to guide others to continue the search ahead.> If we add the references at the end the study shall be more authentic.> The preparation has to be as suggested above. Presentation in the conference may be according to convenience.> > So, concluding, according to me, in this particular study, we have to review the objectives, the material and finalize the method we want to use.> On the contrary I would like

to add that this objective shall not help us in any way in practice. One may not find in life time, unless he is fortunate enough, a single horoscope with such a fortunate position of the IX lord.> > Comments of seniors are cordially invited.> With most humble and due regards to all the members.> > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> @gro ups.com> Monday, October 13, 2008 10:59:14 PM> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > Yes Mr. Dhanbalanji is right. Mars is in Leo 6.19.00 along'with > Rahu also in Leo 6.41.00 but both these move to the 12th Cusp.> The 12th Cusp begins from 16.29.34 Cancer and extends uptil> 16.06.22 Leo. So Mars remains in Leo, but

the Cusp changes.> > Now what are your comments on the same ?> > I also see you mentioning something about research to Sujata.> Please note that if you are talking about me, then I am not connected to> any research work, and dont have time for all this, and not affiliated with> any International astro organisation. I am nowhere> connected with these. If at all> in Life, a time comes when I have to do some research work, then> it would be done on my own experience and not on others sweat. > I already have crores rupee family business which I have> left , and work and earn from my own labours and not on others. > I am a very small and unknown person and not at all linked> to what you have mentioned. > > If You have received some information about this, then please inform the > members about the same, so that the

afflicted parties have a chance to> give their explanations, before you misunderstand and misjudge.> > Please clear any misunderstandings, before you move ahead.Here you are meeting a man who does not even ask for a glass of water from anyone so remain assured and continue. > > You please come out clear with what you meant about > " research work " and who gave you this impression, so that we can clear this. > > best wishes,> Bhaskar.> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Sujataji,> > Very late, I could understand that the topic has come to the group toopinion of members for preparing a research paper. Had I known earlier I would not have attempted in that way. In fact this is not a

suitable topic for presentating in an international conference of astrologers. The material provided is not adequate. The result will not have any practical application. I am undergoing through mental preparation to take up the issue and put up before the group.> > With regards.> > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > > > > > > > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> > @gro ups.com> > Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:02:22 PM> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > > > Dear Dr Rath> > 11th house has the power to become auspicious for lagnas other than movable. Why don't you cosider the sub as well. If ita in the sub of significatir of good houses, its good.> > Regards> > Sujata> > > > --- On Fri, 10/10/08,

Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 10 October, 2008, 7:08 AM> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar,> > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed back.> > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > > > * ..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for

accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the constellations are considered.> > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury.> > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as safe.> > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this constellation is not safe as well.> > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not

auspicious.> > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to be harmless.> > > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless? > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra for Mars.> > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then? > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand if it

occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.> > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps. > > > > With regards. > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > @gro ups.com> > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > > > b)

What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house ?> > Will it be less harmful then ?> > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> >>

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Dear Sundarji,

 

You are talking of the last antar of the Mars MD preceding the start of

the Rahu MD. All such areas of the Vim Dasha would more or les bring

about changes in ones Professional Life, in 99% of the Horoscopes, one

may tend to study.

 

This is because the Nodes will always activate a numnber of houses in a

persons Life, due to, Lordship of the sign owner, Conjunction, Aspects

and Star levels of the Nodes.

 

In My case I have always worked independently in family business, or

else my own professional activities, and I am in a number of such

activities, therefore I do not particularly remember anything special,

but yes The Mahadsha of Rahu brought in spectacular changes in My

Professional Life ( Relatively from the Mars MD), for the better. And

also this does not happen in a day, so somewhere something may have been

making movement, I am sorry cannot remember anything unusual, but can

just say That whatever i was doing in Mars Mahadasha, I got a much

better exposure in Rahu Mahadasha, status wise and financially. I was

never working in a job or in service since last 25 Years.

 

best wishes,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Sundar Balakrishnan

<sundar190561 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar

> Â

> Where there any change in your job in Mars/Moon?

>

> Â

> Thanks...........Sundar

>

> --- On Tue, 14/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

>

> Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 11:44 AM

>

Â

> Dear Shri Lutherji,

> I hope that you have cleared yourself of any misunderstanding about me

and my intentions. This was a pure technical query aimed at

understanding the harmless position of badhaka Lords.

> Â

> I hope you are now convinced that I am not affiliated to any seminar,

conference, research, research papers, or at all connected to any

attendee of any seminar, nor do I have any knowledge of any such seminar

being held anywhere in the world. I also do not have any time for the

next 5-7 years to enter such luxuries , as am busy earning my

> monthly expenditures like any other  humble middle class

> householder in Bombay. Â I have never visited Hyderabd more than

once in my Life, nor do I have time to leave Bombay , from my daily

duties. Here the position is such that daily one has to lower the

tumbler daily in the well, for his daily water, and one cannot think of

any other activities as he will miss his daily lunch and dinner, if he

indulges in luxurious pastimes. Â

> Â

> Now coming to the particular query I put up. That was my own chart.

The birth details are as under -

> Â

> 28th June 1961 Time - 10.15am

> Place Eluru ( Near Vijaywada ) 16.45 N, 81.09 E

> Â

> I have already passed my Mars Mahadasha, so it is obvious that I am

not looking for any predictions, but pure technical pointers.

> Â

> When I mentioned that Mars is in Leo, in the Natal Chart, I

> meant that the sign placement of Mars was Leo. But

> when we make the placidus ( KP ) Chart, in the house

> divisions due to the 12th Cusp beginning 16.29.34 Cancer

> and extending uptil 16.06.22 Leo, naturally Mars will land

> on this side of the Border, that is it would now move to the 12th

cusp.instead of being in the 1st house, in the natal Chart, without

House divisions.

> Â

> Now the above was KP.

> Â

> My query was - will this Mars be harmful, or harmless in the 12th

Cusp, but sign remaining unchanged, which is Leo ?

> Â

> I also appreciate your way of presentation and the hard work gone

behind it. I suppose you are a perfect candudate for seminars,

conferences and doing research work. This is genuine praise for the way

you have presented your article.

> Â

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

> Â

> Â

>

> @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > I am extremely sorry if I have hurt you though unintentionally.

Kindly excuse me for my mis interpretation. I am In the massage box some

where I read that an international conference is being held in Hyderabad

in November this year. And some papers are to be presented in that

conference. Wrongly perhaps I understood that this study is also one

that is intended to be presented. I beg excuse again for my mis

understanding. How ever you need ot feel low about it. We should be

happy if we can conduct some seminars or conferences whether national or

international. I acually intended to present a way how to prepare a

paper for pesentation. I never intended to tell any thing wrong about

you. I wanted to push a guiding line only. If any does desire to do some

research work for publication of presentation may go through my

following few lines. Just 5 minutes I tried to attach the file but

failed , I don't know why. So I am copying it here. I wanted to attach

> the

> > file since it is quite long. I shall be happy if you express that

you have excused me. Please go through the following.

> >

> >

> > Respected Scholars,

> > I am happy to know that there will be an International conference of

Astrology shortly in Hyderabad. I am too happy that some of our members

desire to present some papers in the conference. Now there is a project

from our scholar Sri Bhaskarji. But with much constrain I would like to

put forth that when we do a research on any topic we have to observe

certain system. I would like to give some hints on this.

> > A project has to be made and studied following certain criteria

under certain headings.

> > Ideally the headings should be as follows: -

> > I.. Â Objective of the study.

> > II.. Material.

> > III. Method.

> > IV. Observation.

> > V. Â Summery.

> > VI. Conclusion.

> > Â

> > I. Objective of the study.

> > Â

> > We should have specific aim and objectives to obtain from the study

the result of which should some way help us in practice. In this case

the objectives are as follows.

> > Â

> > a)  Which is the best position †" house placement

wise, for any badhakasthanadhipat i, to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

> > b) Â What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which

houses, for this badhakasthanadhipat i? To be harmless?

> > c)Â Â Â Â Â Is it good for a badhakasthanadhipat i

to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?

> > Â

> > There are three objectives. The research scholar wants to know the

sign which if the badhakasthanadhipat i takes occupation of, it shall

not be harmful.

> > The scholar also wants to find out which is the Nakshatra lord of

the badhakasthanadhipat i to modify the badhaka effect of the Adhipati.

> > Third thing he wants to find out is if a badhakasthanadhipat i is

less harmful when it occupies its own house. Well the answer can be

derived from the analysis done for objective " a " . So this is a secondary

objective.

> > The main objectives are " a " and " b " .

> > Till now it is OK to some extent.

> > Â

> > II.. Material.

> > The material selected for the study is as follows: -

> > Â

> > For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be

the best house for it

> > to be placed in?

> > Â

> > Before we go to " Material " section, I would like to go back to the

" Objectives " . Here he mentions " For Fixed Signs " . That means the

objective has become little more specific. Now the objectives can be

reformed as, " For people born in fixed signs, i.e. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio

and Aquarius, which should be the best position for the

badhakasthanadhipat i to be least harmful " . Since we are considering

Ascendant in fixed signs we mean the lord of IX as badhakasthanadhipat

i, since we conceive that the IX house is the badhakasthana for

Ascendant in fixed signs. So the focus is the IX lord.

> > Now the objectives " a " and " b " can be in one objective only. The

only objective now can be as follows: -

> > " Which is the best position for lord of IX in a chart, for people

born in fixed signs, to be harmless? "

> > This objective covers all.

> > Now going to the material to be used to be studied the Scholar has

given, " suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be the best

house for it to be placed in? "

> > When we review this sentence we find that we have 1. a blank chart

and 2. Ascendant is in Leo. This is incomplete and quite inadequate for

a study.

> > Inadequacies are as follows: -

> > 1. We do not know the exact longitude of the Ascendant.

> > 2. We do not know the position of other cusps.

> > 3. We do not know the position of the planets.

> > With out having the above data it shall be utterly impossible to

study anything what to speak about a sensitive issue like badhaka effect

of lord of IX.

> > In my opinion we should have taken a real horoscope for study.

> > Next, from recent correspondences, it comes to mind that the Scholar

and many of us have in mind to focus on the XII bhaba. The conception

that the badhakasthanadhipat i if occupies XII bhava it does indict

death to the person.

> > Therefore we should have selected at least 4 horoscopes with the

Ascendant in Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius having the IX lord

posited in XII. From these horoscopes we should try to show that the

Lord of IX did not cause death. By doing so we could have proved that

XII is the safest place where in the IX lord being posited does not

indict death.

> > Thus I would like to point out that the material is quite inadequate

for study.

> > Â

> > III. Method..

> > In these days we follow many methods for prediction. We have to be

very specific which method we use for this particular study. We have to

mention according to which method we observe/study and arrive at the

conclusion. The methods could be as follows: -

> > 1. Traditional.

> > 2. Stellar Astrology KSK.

> > 3. Sub Theory.

> > 4. 4 step theory.

> > 5. Any other.

> > I would like to say that the methods should not be mixed ones. It

should not be any one the above or any method propounded by the Research

Scholar (the new method should be explained).

> > Â

> > IV. Observation.

> > Â

> > One has to explain the observations/ justifications in detail.

> > Â

> > V. Summery.

> > Â

> > One has to summarize the observations in brief.

> > Â

> > VI. Conclusion

> > In conclusion we should clearly mention whether we could find out

the answer to our question, whether we arrived at the goal of our

objective..

> > We could mention some thing as follows: -

> > 1. Such and such position of lord of IX in a chart, for people born

in fixed signs, is harmless. OR

> > 2. No position can be safeÂ

> > 3. Could not arrive at any decision and further study is necessary.

In this case some clues and criteria have to be indicated for further

research to guide others to continue the search ahead.

> > If we add the references at the end the study shall be more

authentic.

> > The preparation has to be as suggested above. Presentation in the

conference may be according to convenience.

> > Â

> > So, concluding, according to me, in this particular study, we have

to review the objectives, the material and finalize the method we want

to use.

> > On the contrary I would like to add that this objective shall not

help us in any way in practice. One may not find in life time, unless he

is fortunate enough, a single horoscope with such a fortunate position

of the IX lord.

> > Â

> > Comments of seniors are cordially invited.

> > With most humble and due regards to all the members.

> > Â

> > Dr. Luther Rath.

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > @gro ups.com

> > Monday, October 13, 2008 10:59:14 PM

> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> >

> >

> > Â

> > Dear Shri Lutherji,

> > Â

> > Yes Mr. Dhanbalanji is right. Mars is in Leo 6.19.00 along'with

> > Rahu also in Leo 6.41.00 but both these move to the 12th Cusp.

> > The 12th Cusp begins from 16.29.34 Cancer and extends uptil

> > 16.06.22 Leo. So Mars remains in Leo, but the Cusp changes.

> > Â

> > Now what are your comments on the same ?

> > Â

> > I also see you mentioning something about research to Sujata.

> > Please note that if you are talking about me, then I am not

connected to

> > any research work, and dont have time for all this, and not

affiliated with

> > any International astro organisation. I am nowhere

> > connected with these. If at all

> > in Life, a time comes when I have to do some research work, then

> > it would be done on my own experience and not on others sweat.

> > I already have crores rupee family business which I have

> > left , and work and earn from my own labours and not on others.

> > I am a very small and unknown person and not at all linked

> > to what you have mentioned.

> > Â

> > If You have received some information about this, then please inform

the

> > members about the same, so that the afflicted parties have a chance

to

> > give their explanations, before you misunderstand and misjudge.

> > Â

> > Please clear any misunderstandings, before you move ahead.Here you

are meeting a man who does not even ask for a glass of water from anyone

so remain assured and continue.

> > Â

> > You please come out clear with what you meant about Â

> > Â Â " research work " Â and who gave you this impression,

so that we can clear this.

> > Â

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> > Â

> > Â

> > Â

> > Â

> >

> > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sujataji,

> > > Very late, I could understand that the topic has come to the group

toopinion of members for preparing a research paper. Had I known earlier

I would not have attempted in that way. In fact this is not a suitable

topic for presentating in an international conference of astrologers.

The material provided is not adequate. The result will not have any

practical application. I am undergoing through mental preparation to

take up the issue and put up before the group.

> > > With regards.

> > > Dr. Luther Rath

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:02:22 PM

> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Dr Rath

> > > 11th house has the power to become auspicious for lagnas other

than movable. Why don't you cosider the sub as well. If ita in the sub

of significatir of good houses, its good.

> > > Regards

> > > Sujata

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:

> > >

> > > Luther Rath rathluther >

> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Friday, 10 October, 2008, 7:08 AM

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request

feed back.

> > > Â

> > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.

> > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any

> > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

> > > Â

> > > * ..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and

Aries).

> > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by

occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house

to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for

accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be

safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.

> > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and

negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to

negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as

the constellations are considered.

> > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus

or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is

definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter,

Saturn and Mercury.

> > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an

auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as

safe.

> > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this

constellation is not safe as well.

> > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.

> > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.

> > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus.

So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are

considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of

Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to

be harmless.

> > > Â

> > > Â

> > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which

house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?

> > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest

Nakshatra for Mars.

> > > Â

> > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own

house? Will it be less harmful then?

> > > Â

> > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it

own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other

hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively

safe.

> > > Â

> > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the

sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

> > > Â

> > > With regards.

> > > Â

> > > Dr. Luther Rath.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM

> > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.

> > >

> > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any

> > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?

> > >

> > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which

houses,

> > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?

> > >

> > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own

house ?

> > > Will it be less harmful then ?

> > >

> > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for

Mars,

> > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?

> > >

> > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Respected Mr. Bhaskar,

Sir,

The signification properties of Rahu/Ketu are always intrigueing to

me me and I always get confused. From second para of your post I

gather that in your opinion Rahu/Ketu give results of all, i.e.of

their sign-lord,of planets which they are in conjunction with, of

planets by which they are aspected and finally of their star-lords .I

may be wrong. Would you please clarify sir ?

regards,

sujatkaram. , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sundarji,

>

> You are talking of the last antar of the Mars MD preceding the

start of

> the Rahu MD. All such areas of the Vim Dasha would more or les bring

> about changes in ones Professional Life, in 99% of the Horoscopes,

one

> may tend to study.

>

> This is because the Nodes will always activate a numnber of houses

in a

> persons Life, due to, Lordship of the sign owner, Conjunction,

Aspects

> and Star levels of the Nodes.

>

> In My case I have always worked independently in family business, or

> else my own professional activities, and I am in a number of such

> activities, therefore I do not particularly remember anything

special,

> but yes The Mahadsha of Rahu brought in spectacular changes in My

> Professional Life ( Relatively from the Mars MD), for the better.

And

> also this does not happen in a day, so somewhere something may have

been

> making movement, I am sorry cannot remember anything unusual, but

can

> just say That whatever i was doing in Mars Mahadasha, I got a much

> better exposure in Rahu Mahadasha, status wise and financially. I

was

> never working in a job or in service since last 25 Years.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> , Sundar Balakrishnan

> <sundar190561@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar

> > Â

> > Where there any change in your job in Mars/Moon?

> >

> > Â

> > Thanks...........Sundar

> >

> > --- On Tue, 14/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> >

> > Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 11:44 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â

> > Dear Shri Lutherji,

> > I hope that you have cleared yourself of any misunderstanding

about me

> and my intentions. This was a pure technical query aimed at

> understanding the harmless position of badhaka Lords.

> > Â

> > I hope you are now convinced that I am not affiliated to any

seminar,

> conference, research, research papers, or at all connected to any

> attendee of any seminar, nor do I have any knowledge of any such

seminar

> being held anywhere in the world. I also do not have any time for

the

> next 5-7 years to enter such luxuries , as am busy earning my

> > monthly expenditures like any other  humble middle class

> > householder in Bombay. Â I have never visited Hyderabd more than

> once in my Life, nor do I have time to leave Bombay , from my daily

> duties. Here the position is such that daily one has to lower the

> tumbler daily in the well, for his daily water, and one cannot

think of

> any other activities as he will miss his daily lunch and dinner, if

he

> indulges in luxurious pastimes. Â

> > Â

> > Now coming to the particular query I put up. That was my own

chart.

> The birth details are as under -

> > Â

> > 28th June 1961 Time - 10.15am

> > Place Eluru ( Near Vijaywada ) 16.45 N, 81.09 E

> > Â

> > I have already passed my Mars Mahadasha, so it is obvious that I

am

> not looking for any predictions, but pure technical pointers.

> > Â

> > When I mentioned that Mars is in Leo, in the Natal Chart, I

> > meant that the sign placement of Mars was Leo. But

> > when we make the placidus ( KP ) Chart, in the house

> > divisions due to the 12th Cusp beginning 16.29.34 Cancer

> > and extending uptil 16.06.22 Leo, naturally Mars will land

> > on this side of the Border, that is it would now move to the 12th

> cusp.instead of being in the 1st house, in the natal Chart, without

> House divisions.

> > Â

> > Now the above was KP.

> > Â

> > My query was - will this Mars be harmful, or harmless in the 12th

> Cusp, but sign remaining unchanged, which is Leo ?

> > Â

> > I also appreciate your way of presentation and the hard work gone

> behind it. I suppose you are a perfect candudate for seminars,

> conferences and doing research work. This is genuine praise for the

way

> you have presented your article.

> > Â

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> > Â

> > Â

> >

> > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > I am extremely sorry if I have hurt you though unintentionally.

> Kindly excuse me for my mis interpretation. I am In the massage box

some

> where I read that an international conference is being held in

Hyderabad

> in November this year. And some papers are to be presented in that

> conference. Wrongly perhaps I understood that this study is also one

> that is intended to be presented. I beg excuse again for my mis

> understanding. How ever you need ot feel low about it. We should be

> happy if we can conduct some seminars or conferences whether

national or

> international. I acually intended to present a way how to prepare a

> paper for pesentation. I never intended to tell any thing wrong

about

> you. I wanted to push a guiding line only. If any does desire to do

some

> research work for publication of presentation may go through my

> following few lines. Just 5 minutes I tried to attach the file but

> failed , I don't know why. So I am copying it here. I wanted to

attach

> > the

> > > file since it is quite long. I shall be happy if you express

that

> you have excused me. Please go through the following.

> > >

> > >

> > > Respected Scholars,

> > > I am happy to know that there will be an International

conference of

> Astrology shortly in Hyderabad. I am too happy that some of our

members

> desire to present some papers in the conference. Now there is a

project

> from our scholar Sri Bhaskarji. But with much constrain I would

like to

> put forth that when we do a research on any topic we have to observe

> certain system. I would like to give some hints on this.

> > > A project has to be made and studied following certain criteria

> under certain headings.

> > > Ideally the headings should be as follows: -

> > > I.. Â Objective of the study.

> > > II.. Material.

> > > III. Method.

> > > IV. Observation.

> > > V. Â Summery.

> > > VI. Conclusion.

> > > Â

> > > I. Objective of the study.

> > > Â

> > > We should have specific aim and objectives to obtain from the

study

> the result of which should some way help us in practice. In this

case

> the objectives are as follows.

> > > Â

> > > a)  Which is the best position †" house placement

> wise, for any badhakasthanadhipat i, to be, in a chart? To be

harmless?

> > > b) Â What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which

> houses, for this badhakasthanadhipat i? To be harmless?

> > > c)Â Â Â Â Â Is it good for a badhakasthanadhipat i

> to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?

> > > Â

> > > There are three objectives. The research scholar wants to know

the

> sign which if the badhakasthanadhipat i takes occupation of, it

shall

> not be harmful.

> > > The scholar also wants to find out which is the Nakshatra lord

of

> the badhakasthanadhipat i to modify the badhaka effect of the

Adhipati.

> > > Third thing he wants to find out is if a badhakasthanadhipat i

is

> less harmful when it occupies its own house. Well the answer can be

> derived from the analysis done for objective " a " . So this is a

secondary

> objective.

> > > The main objectives are " a " and " b " .

> > > Till now it is OK to some extent.

> > > Â

> > > II.. Material.

> > > The material selected for the study is as follows: -

> > > Â

> > > For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what

must be

> the best house for it

> > > to be placed in?

> > > Â

> > > Before we go to " Material " section, I would like to go back to

the

> " Objectives " . Here he mentions " For Fixed Signs " . That means the

> objective has become little more specific. Now the objectives can be

> reformed as, " For people born in fixed signs, i.e. Taurus, Leo,

Scorpio

> and Aquarius, which should be the best position for the

> badhakasthanadhipat i to be least harmful " . Since we are considering

> Ascendant in fixed signs we mean the lord of IX as

badhakasthanadhipat

> i, since we conceive that the IX house is the badhakasthana for

> Ascendant in fixed signs. So the focus is the IX lord.

> > > Now the objectives " a " and " b " can be in one objective only. The

> only objective now can be as follows: -

> > > " Which is the best position for lord of IX in a chart, for

people

> born in fixed signs, to be harmless? "

> > > This objective covers all.

> > > Now going to the material to be used to be studied the Scholar

has

> given, " suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be the best

> house for it to be placed in? "

> > > When we review this sentence we find that we have 1. a blank

chart

> and 2. Ascendant is in Leo. This is incomplete and quite inadequate

for

> a study.

> > > Inadequacies are as follows: -

> > > 1. We do not know the exact longitude of the Ascendant.

> > > 2. We do not know the position of other cusps.

> > > 3. We do not know the position of the planets.

> > > With out having the above data it shall be utterly impossible to

> study anything what to speak about a sensitive issue like badhaka

effect

> of lord of IX.

> > > In my opinion we should have taken a real horoscope for study.

> > > Next, from recent correspondences, it comes to mind that the

Scholar

> and many of us have in mind to focus on the XII bhaba. The

conception

> that the badhakasthanadhipat i if occupies XII bhava it does indict

> death to the person.

> > > Therefore we should have selected at least 4 horoscopes with the

> Ascendant in Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius having the IX lord

> posited in XII. From these horoscopes we should try to show that the

> Lord of IX did not cause death. By doing so we could have proved

that

> XII is the safest place where in the IX lord being posited does not

> indict death.

> > > Thus I would like to point out that the material is quite

inadequate

> for study.

> > > Â

> > > III. Method..

> > > In these days we follow many methods for prediction. We have to

be

> very specific which method we use for this particular study. We

have to

> mention according to which method we observe/study and arrive at the

> conclusion. The methods could be as follows: -

> > > 1. Traditional.

> > > 2. Stellar Astrology KSK.

> > > 3. Sub Theory.

> > > 4. 4 step theory.

> > > 5. Any other.

> > > I would like to say that the methods should not be mixed ones.

It

> should not be any one the above or any method propounded by the

Research

> Scholar (the new method should be explained).

> > > Â

> > > IV. Observation.

> > > Â

> > > One has to explain the observations/ justifications in detail.

> > > Â

> > > V. Summery.

> > > Â

> > > One has to summarize the observations in brief.

> > > Â

> > > VI. Conclusion

> > > In conclusion we should clearly mention whether we could find

out

> the answer to our question, whether we arrived at the goal of our

> objective..

> > > We could mention some thing as follows: -

> > > 1. Such and such position of lord of IX in a chart, for people

born

> in fixed signs, is harmless. OR

> > > 2. No position can be safeÂ

> > > 3. Could not arrive at any decision and further study is

necessary.

> In this case some clues and criteria have to be indicated for

further

> research to guide others to continue the search ahead.

> > > If we add the references at the end the study shall be more

> authentic.

> > > The preparation has to be as suggested above. Presentation in

the

> conference may be according to convenience.

> > > Â

> > > So, concluding, according to me, in this particular study, we

have

> to review the objectives, the material and finalize the method we

want

> to use.

> > > On the contrary I would like to add that this objective shall

not

> help us in any way in practice. One may not find in life time,

unless he

> is fortunate enough, a single horoscope with such a fortunate

position

> of the IX lord.

> > > Â

> > > Comments of seniors are cordially invited.

> > > With most humble and due regards to all the members.

> > > Â

> > > Dr. Luther Rath.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Monday, October 13, 2008 10:59:14 PM

> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Dear Shri Lutherji,

> > > Â

> > > Yes Mr. Dhanbalanji is right. Mars is in Leo 6.19.00 along'with

> > > Rahu also in Leo 6.41.00 but both these move to the 12th Cusp.

> > > The 12th Cusp begins from 16.29.34 Cancer and extends uptil

> > > 16.06.22 Leo. So Mars remains in Leo, but the Cusp changes.

> > > Â

> > > Now what are your comments on the same ?

> > > Â

> > > I also see you mentioning something about research to Sujata.

> > > Please note that if you are talking about me, then I am not

> connected to

> > > any research work, and dont have time for all this, and not

> affiliated with

> > > any International astro organisation. I am nowhere

> > > connected with these. If at all

> > > in Life, a time comes when I have to do some research work, then

> > > it would be done on my own experience and not on others sweat.

> > > I already have crores rupee family business which I have

> > > left , and work and earn from my own labours and not on others.

> > > I am a very small and unknown person and not at all linked

> > > to what you have mentioned.

> > > Â

> > > If You have received some information about this, then please

inform

> the

> > > members about the same, so that the afflicted parties have a

chance

> to

> > > give their explanations, before you misunderstand and

misjudge.

> > > Â

> > > Please clear any misunderstandings, before you move ahead.Here

you

> are meeting a man who does not even ask for a glass of water from

anyone

> so remain assured and continue.

> > > Â

> > > You please come out clear with what you meant about Â

> > > Â Â " research work " Â and who gave you this impression,

> so that we can clear this.

> > > Â

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > > Â

> > > Â

> > > Â

> > > Â

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sujataji,

> > > > Very late, I could understand that the topic has come to the

group

> toopinion of members for preparing a research paper. Had I known

earlier

> I would not have attempted in that way. In fact this is not a

suitable

> topic for presentating in an international conference of

astrologers.

> The material provided is not adequate. The result will not have any

> practical application. I am undergoing through mental preparation

to

> take up the issue and put up before the group.

> > > > With regards.

> > > > Dr. Luther Rath

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:02:22 PM

> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best

position ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Dr Rath

> > > > 11th house has the power to become auspicious for lagnas other

> than movable. Why don't you cosider the sub as well. If ita in the

sub

> of significatir of good houses, its good.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sujata

> > > >

> > > > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Luther Rath rathluther >

> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best

position ?

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Friday, 10 October, 2008, 7:08 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request

> feed back.

> > > > Â

> > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.

> > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any

> > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?

> > > > Â

> > > > * ..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius

and

> Aries).

> > > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka

sthana by

> occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th

house

> to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for

> accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears

to be

> safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.

> > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and

> negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes

strong to

> negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as

long as

> the constellations are considered.

> > > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or

Venus

> or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is

> definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of

Jupiter,

> Saturn and Mercury.

> > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not

an

> auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be

considered as

> safe.

> > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is

this

> constellation is not safe as well.

> > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not

auspicious.

> > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.

> > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and

Venus.

> So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects

are

> considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the

constellation of

> Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant

to

> be harmless.

> > > > Â

> > > > Â

> > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which

> house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?

> > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest

> Nakshatra for Mars.

> > > > Â

> > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its

own

> house? Will it be less harmful then?

> > > > Â

> > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars

occupies it

> own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the

other

> hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be

relatively

> safe.

> > > > Â

> > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies

the

> sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.

> > > > Â

> > > > With regards.

> > > > Â

> > > > Dr. Luther Rath.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM

> > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear all,

> > > >

> > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.

> > > >

> > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any

> > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?

> > > >

> > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which

> houses,

> > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?

> > > >

> > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its

own

> house ?

> > > > Will it be less harmful then ?

> > > >

> > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for

> Mars,

> > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?

> > > >

> > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

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Dear Shri Sujatkaramji,

Sir, Rahu is the planet which we have seen when it reigns as the Mahadasha Lord, has toppled many on the ground, and at the same time, also elevated people to most jealous heights of achievements.

 

To check the effects of what Rahu gives.

 

1) We check the placement of Rahu in which Cusp.

2) We check the Nakshatra owner - represents which houses.

3) We check the planet within 4 degrees orb - its placement and its nakshatra what houses it signifies.

4) We check the planet aspecting - its placement and its nakshatra owner what it signifies.

5) We check the Sign Lord of Rahu where it is placed, what it signifies, and its Nakshatra Owner what houses it signifies.

 

When so many factors come in play with the Nodes, it is not surprising that many changes would be affected in the natives Life, when the nodes appear, as Mahadasha or antardasha Lords.

 

The traditonal astrologers do not have the access to the above knowledge given to us by KP, hence they fail mostly to assess the real results of the Nodes, in a natives Life.

 

How to judge whether the MD of the Nodes would be favourable or not ?

 

If most of the planets in interplay from above process, suggest positive houses activated by the Nakshatra Owner ( I am talking of the Nakshatra owners of thes planets, and not of actual placements or ownerships of the Planets in question ), then the native will see a phemonenal rise, or else vice versa.

 

The 3rd Column - Sub Lord

 

I do not think that most of the Kp astrologers would be rectifying this column, or the birth time, every time they check a chart, unless it is a specific query regarded to marrriage where a astrologer can do the rectification of just the 7th Cusp and sit comfortably, or else a health problem where just the rectification of the 6th Cusp Sub Lord would suffice, to answer a specific query. Most of the times, due to time consuming and effort taken in rectifications, and also due to less financial considerations presented from the clients side, most of the astrologers will not bother to rectify the birth time of the native, and I feel to give a supposedly effective prediction, the 2nd column too would suffice in most of the cases, unless the 2nd column ( Of the Nakshatra ownership and its houses represented through placement and ownership) is resting on a border of any Cusp, which of course must be checked by every astrologer before embarking on reading a chart.

 

This can be supplemented by a check with the Prashna Chart, where we do not have to bother about the accuracy of the Cusps or the birth time , or the rectifications, and here the 3rd Column of SubLords can be used effectively to confirm the above prediction made through just the 2nd column.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram wrote:>> Respected Mr. Bhaskar,> Sir,> The signification properties of Rahu/Ketu are always intrigueing to > me me and I always get confused. From second para of your post I > gather that in your opinion Rahu/Ketu give results of all, i.e.of > their sign-lord,of planets which they are in conjunction with, of > planets by which they are aspected and finally of their star-lords .I > may be wrong. Would you please clarify sir ?> regards,> sujatkaram. , "Bhaskar" > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Sundarji,> > > > You are talking of the last antar of the Mars MD preceding the > start of> > the Rahu MD. All such areas of the Vim Dasha would more or les bring> > about changes in ones Professional Life, in 99% of the Horoscopes, > one> > may tend to study.> > > > This is because the Nodes will always activate a numnber of houses > in a> > persons Life, due to, Lordship of the sign owner, Conjunction, > Aspects> > and Star levels of the Nodes.> > > > In My case I have always worked independently in family business, or> > else my own professional activities, and I am in a number of such> > activities, therefore I do not particularly remember anything > special,> > but yes The Mahadsha of Rahu brought in spectacular changes in My> > Professional Life ( Relatively from the Mars MD), for the better. > And> > also this does not happen in a day, so somewhere something may have > been> > making movement, I am sorry cannot remember anything unusual, but > can> > just say That whatever i was doing in Mars Mahadasha, I got a much> > better exposure in Rahu Mahadasha, status wise and financially. I > was> > never working in a job or in service since last 25 Years.> > > > best wishes,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > , Sundar Balakrishnan> > <sundar190561@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar> > > Â> > > Where there any change in your job in Mars/Moon?> > >> > > Â> > > Thanks...........Sundar> > >> > > --- On Tue, 14/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > > > Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 11:44 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > I hope that you have cleared yourself of any misunderstanding > about me> > and my intentions. This was a pure technical query aimed at> > understanding the harmless position of badhaka Lords.> > > Â> > > I hope you are now convinced that I am not affiliated to any > seminar,> > conference, research, research papers, or at all connected to any> > attendee of any seminar, nor do I have any knowledge of any such > seminar> > being held anywhere in the world. I also do not have any time for > the> > next 5-7 years to enter such luxuries , as am busy earning my> > > monthly expenditures like any other  humble middle class> > > householder in Bombay.  I have never visited Hyderabd more than> > once in my Life, nor do I have time to leave Bombay , from my daily> > duties. Here the position is such that daily one has to lower the> > tumbler daily in the well, for his daily water, and one cannot > think of> > any other activities as he will miss his daily lunch and dinner, if > he> > indulges in luxurious pastimes. Â> > > Â> > > Now coming to the particular query I put up. That was my own > chart.> > The birth details are as under -> > > Â> > > 28th June 1961 Time - 10.15am> > > Place Eluru ( Near Vijaywada ) 16.45 N, 81.09 E> > > Â> > > I have already passed my Mars Mahadasha, so it is obvious that I > am> > not looking for any predictions, but pure technical pointers.> > > Â> > > When I mentioned that Mars is in Leo, in the Natal Chart, I> > > meant that the sign placement of Mars was Leo. But> > > when we make the placidus ( KP ) Chart, in the house> > > divisions due to the 12th Cusp beginning 16.29.34 Cancer> > > and extending uptil 16.06.22 Leo, naturally Mars will land> > > on this side of the Border, that is it would now move to the 12th> > cusp.instead of being in the 1st house, in the natal Chart, without> > House divisions.> > > Â> > > Now the above was KP.> > > Â> > > My query was - will this Mars be harmful, or harmless in the 12th> > Cusp, but sign remaining unchanged, which is Leo ?> > > Â> > > I also appreciate your way of presentation and the hard work gone> > behind it. I suppose you are a perfect candudate for seminars,> > conferences and doing research work. This is genuine praise for the > way> > you have presented your article.> > > Â> > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > Â> > > Â> > >> > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > > I am extremely sorry if I have hurt you though unintentionally.> > Kindly excuse me for my mis interpretation. I am In the massage box > some> > where I read that an international conference is being held in > Hyderabad> > in November this year. And some papers are to be presented in that> > conference. Wrongly perhaps I understood that this study is also one> > that is intended to be presented. I beg excuse again for my mis> > understanding. How ever you need ot feel low about it. We should be> > happy if we can conduct some seminars or conferences whether > national or> > international. I acually intended to present a way how to prepare a> > paper for pesentation. I never intended to tell any thing wrong > about> > you. I wanted to push a guiding line only. If any does desire to do > some> > research work for publication of presentation may go through my> > following few lines. Just 5 minutes I tried to attach the file but> > failed , I don't know why. So I am copying it here. I wanted to > attach> > > the> > > > file since it is quite long. I shall be happy if you express > that> > you have excused me. Please go through the following.> > > >> > > >> > > > Respected Scholars,> > > > I am happy to know that there will be an International > conference of> > Astrology shortly in Hyderabad. I am too happy that some of our > members> > desire to present some papers in the conference. Now there is a > project> > from our scholar Sri Bhaskarji. But with much constrain I would > like to> > put forth that when we do a research on any topic we have to observe> > certain system. I would like to give some hints on this.> > > > A project has to be made and studied following certain criteria> > under certain headings.> > > > Ideally the headings should be as follows: -> > > > I..  Objective of the study.> > > > II.. Material.> > > > III. Method.> > > > IV. Observation.> > > > V.  Summery.> > > > VI. Conclusion.> > > > Â> > > > I. Objective of the study.> > > > Â> > > > We should have specific aim and objectives to obtain from the > study> > the result of which should some way help us in practice. In this > case> > the objectives are as follows.> > > > Â> > > > a)  Which is the best position â€"house placement> > wise, for any badhakasthanadhipat i, to be, in a chart? To be > harmless?> > > > b)  What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> > houses, for this badhakasthanadhipat i? To be harmless?> > > > c)     Is it good for a badhakasthanadhipat i> > to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?> > > > Â> > > > There are three objectives. The research scholar wants to know > the> > sign which if the badhakasthanadhipat i takes occupation of, it > shall> > not be harmful.> > > > The scholar also wants to find out which is the Nakshatra lord > of> > the badhakasthanadhipat i to modify the badhaka effect of the > Adhipati.> > > > Third thing he wants to find out is if a badhakasthanadhipat i > is> > less harmful when it occupies its own house. Well the answer can be> > derived from the analysis done for objective "a". So this is a > secondary> > objective.> > > > The main objectives are "a" and "b".> > > > Till now it is OK to some extent.> > > > Â> > > > II.. Material.> > > > The material selected for the study is as follows: -> > > > Â> > > > For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what > must be> > the best house for it> > > > to be placed in?> > > > Â> > > > Before we go to "Material" section, I would like to go back to > the> > "Objectives" . Here he mentions "For Fixed Signs". That means the> > objective has become little more specific. Now the objectives can be> > reformed as, "For people born in fixed signs, i.e. Taurus, Leo, > Scorpio> > and Aquarius, which should be the best position for the> > badhakasthanadhipat i to be least harmful". Since we are considering> > Ascendant in fixed signs we mean the lord of IX as > badhakasthanadhipat> > i, since we conceive that the IX house is the badhakasthana for> > Ascendant in fixed signs. So the focus is the IX lord.> > > > Now the objectives "a" and "b" can be in one objective only. The> > only objective now can be as follows: -> > > > "Which is the best position for lord of IX in a chart, for > people> > born in fixed signs, to be harmless?"> > > > This objective covers all.> > > > Now going to the material to be used to be studied the Scholar > has> > given, "suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be the best> > house for it to be placed in?"> > > > When we review this sentence we find that we have 1. a blank > chart> > and 2. Ascendant is in Leo. This is incomplete and quite inadequate > for> > a study.> > > > Inadequacies are as follows: -> > > > 1. We do not know the exact longitude of the Ascendant.> > > > 2. We do not know the position of other cusps.> > > > 3. We do not know the position of the planets.> > > > With out having the above data it shall be utterly impossible to> > study anything what to speak about a sensitive issue like badhaka > effect> > of lord of IX.> > > > In my opinion we should have taken a real horoscope for study.> > > > Next, from recent correspondences, it comes to mind that the > Scholar> > and many of us have in mind to focus on the XII bhaba. The > conception> > that the badhakasthanadhipat i if occupies XII bhava it does indict> > death to the person.> > > > Therefore we should have selected at least 4 horoscopes with the> > Ascendant in Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius having the IX lord> > posited in XII. From these horoscopes we should try to show that the> > Lord of IX did not cause death. By doing so we could have proved > that> > XII is the safest place where in the IX lord being posited does not> > indict death.> > > > Thus I would like to point out that the material is quite > inadequate> > for study.> > > > Â> > > > III. Method..> > > > In these days we follow many methods for prediction. We have to > be> > very specific which method we use for this particular study. We > have to> > mention according to which method we observe/study and arrive at the> > conclusion. The methods could be as follows: -> > > > 1. Traditional.> > > > 2. Stellar Astrology KSK.> > > > 3. Sub Theory.> > > > 4. 4 step theory.> > > > 5. Any other.> > > > I would like to say that the methods should not be mixed ones. > It> > should not be any one the above or any method propounded by the > Research> > Scholar (the new method should be explained).> > > > Â> > > > IV. Observation.> > > > Â> > > > One has to explain the observations/ justifications in detail.> > > > Â> > > > V. Summery.> > > > Â> > > > One has to summarize the observations in brief.> > > > Â> > > > VI. Conclusion> > > > In conclusion we should clearly mention whether we could find > out> > the answer to our question, whether we arrived at the goal of our> > objective..> > > > We could mention some thing as follows: -> > > > 1. Such and such position of lord of IX in a chart, for people > born> > in fixed signs, is harmless. OR> > > > 2. No position can be safeÂ> > > > 3. Could not arrive at any decision and further study is > necessary.> > In this case some clues and criteria have to be indicated for > further> > research to guide others to continue the search ahead.> > > > If we add the references at the end the study shall be more> > authentic.> > > > The preparation has to be as suggested above. Presentation in > the> > conference may be according to convenience.> > > > Â> > > > So, concluding, according to me, in this particular study, we > have> > to review the objectives, the material and finalize the method we > want> > to use.> > > > On the contrary I would like to add that this objective shall > not> > help us in any way in practice. One may not find in life time, > unless he> > is fortunate enough, a single horoscope with such a fortunate > position> > of the IX lord.> > > > Â> > > > Comments of seniors are cordially invited.> > > > With most humble and due regards to all the members.> > > > Â> > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Monday, October 13, 2008 10:59:14 PM> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > > Â> > > > Yes Mr. Dhanbalanji is right. Mars is in Leo 6.19.00 along'with> > > > Rahu also in Leo 6.41.00 but both these move to the 12th Cusp.> > > > The 12th Cusp begins from 16.29.34 Cancer and extends uptil> > > > 16.06.22 Leo. So Mars remains in Leo, but the Cusp changes.> > > > Â> > > > Now what are your comments on the same ?> > > > Â> > > > I also see you mentioning something about research to Sujata.> > > > Please note that if you are talking about me, then I am not> > connected to> > > > any research work, and dont have time for all this, and not> > affiliated with> > > > any International astro organisation. I am nowhere> > > > connected with these. If at all> > > > in Life, a time comes when I have to do some research work, then> > > > it would be done on my own experience and not on others sweat.> > > > I already have crores rupee family business which I have> > > > left , and work and earn from my own labours and not on others.> > > > I am a very small and unknown person and not at all linked> > > > to what you have mentioned.> > > > Â> > > > If You have received some information about this, then please > inform> > the> > > > members about the same, so that the afflicted parties have a > chance> > to> > > > give their explanations, before you misunderstand and > misjudge.> > > > Â> > > > Please clear any misunderstandings, before you move ahead.Here > you> > are meeting a man who does not even ask for a glass of water from > anyone> > so remain assured and continue.> > > > Â> > > > You please come out clear with what you meant about Â> > > >   " research work " and who gave you this impression,> > so that we can clear this.> > > > Â> > > > best wishes,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > Â> > > > Â> > > > Â> > > > Â> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..>> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sujataji,> > > > > Very late, I could understand that the topic has come to the > group> > toopinion of members for preparing a research paper. Had I known > earlier> > I would not have attempted in that way. In fact this is not a > suitable> > topic for presentating in an international conference of > astrologers.> > The material provided is not adequate. The result will not have any> > practical application. I am undergoing through mental preparation > to> > take up the issue and put up before the group.> > > > > With regards.> > > > > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:02:22 PM> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best > position ?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Dr Rath> > > > > 11th house has the power to become auspicious for lagnas other> > than movable. Why don't you cosider the sub as well. If ita in the > sub> > of significatir of good houses, its good.> > > > > Regards> > > > > Sujata> > > > >> > > > > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best > position ?> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Friday, 10 October, 2008, 7:08 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request> > feed back.> > > > > Â> > > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > > > > Â> > > > > * ..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius > and> > Aries).> > > > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka > sthana by> > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th > house> > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears > to be> > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and> > negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes > strong to> > negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as > long as> > the constellations are considered.> > > > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or > Venus> > or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is> > definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of > Jupiter,> > Saturn and Mercury.> > > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not > an> > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be > considered as> > safe.> > > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is > this> > constellation is not safe as well.> > > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not > auspicious.> > > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and > Venus.> > So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects > are> > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the > constellation of> > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant > to> > be harmless.> > > > > Â> > > > > Â> > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> > house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest> > Nakshatra for Mars.> > > > > Â> > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house? Will it be less harmful then?> > > > > Â> > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars > occupies it> > own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the > other> > hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be > relatively> > safe.> > > > > Â> > > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies > the> > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > > > > Â> > > > > With regards.> > > > > Â> > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear all,> > > > >> > > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > > > >> > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > > > >> > > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> > houses,> > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > > > >> > > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house ?> > > > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > > > >> > > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for> > Mars,> > > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > > > >> > > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > http://messenger./invite/> > >> >>

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Dear Bhaskarji,

I do express my concern in hurting you unknowingly. After seeing my last posting you must have realised that my intention was not to abuse or to look down on any body. It's not my nature. My intention was to show a posible guide-line. Had I known that it was your own chart and had I all the particulars I would have studied in a different angle that would be complete in nature according to my knowledge in astrology. We have to be transparent with each other or else we land in trouble or misunderstanding. Kindly do not misunderstand me. When you want to clerify some thing you may ask in a direct way, please.

Due regards.

Dr. Luther Rath.

 

sujatkaram <sujatkaram Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:51:39 PM Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

Respected Mr. Bhaskar,Sir,The signification properties of Rahu/Ketu are always intrigueing to me me and I always get confused.. From second para of your post I gather that in your opinion Rahu/Ketu give results of all, i.e.of their sign-lord,of planets which they are in conjunction with, of planets by which they are aspected and finally of their star-lords .I may be wrong. Would you please clarify sir ?regards,sujatkaram. @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Sundarji,> > You are talking of the last antar of the Mars MD preceding the start of> the Rahu MD. All such areas of the Vim Dasha would more or les bring> about changes in ones Professional Life, in 99% of the Horoscopes,

one> may tend to study.> > This is because the Nodes will always activate a numnber of houses in a> persons Life, due to, Lordship of the sign owner, Conjunction, Aspects> and Star levels of the Nodes.> > In My case I have always worked independently in family business, or> else my own professional activities, and I am in a number of such> activities, therefore I do not particularly remember anything special,> but yes The Mahadsha of Rahu brought in spectacular changes in My> Professional Life ( Relatively from the Mars MD), for the better. And> also this does not happen in a day, so somewhere something may have been> making movement, I am sorry cannot remember anything unusual, but can> just say That whatever i was doing in Mars Mahadasha, I got a much> better exposure in Rahu Mahadasha, status wise and financially. I

was> never working in a job or in service since last 25 Years.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > @gro ups.com, Sundar Balakrishnan> <sundar190561@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar> > Â> > Where there any change in your job in Mars/Moon?> >> > Â> > Thanks...... .....Sundar> >> > --- On Tue, 14/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > @gro ups.com>

> Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 11:44 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Â> > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > I hope that you have cleared yourself of any misunderstanding about me> and my intentions. This was a pure technical query aimed at> understanding the harmless position of badhaka Lords.> > Â> > I hope you are now convinced that I am not affiliated to any seminar,> conference, research, research papers, or at all connected to any> attendee of any seminar, nor do I have any knowledge of any such seminar> being held anywhere in the world. I also do not have any time for the> next 5-7 years to enter such luxuries , as am busy earning my> > monthly expenditures like any other  humble middle class> > householder in Bombay.  I have never visited Hyderabd more

than> once in my Life, nor do I have time to leave Bombay , from my daily> duties. Here the position is such that daily one has to lower the> tumbler daily in the well, for his daily water, and one cannot think of> any other activities as he will miss his daily lunch and dinner, if he> indulges in luxurious pastimes. Â> > Â> > Now coming to the particular query I put up. That was my own chart.> The birth details are as under -> > Â> > 28th June 1961 Time - 10.15am> > Place Eluru ( Near Vijaywada ) 16.45 N, 81.09 E> > Â> > I have already passed my Mars Mahadasha, so it is obvious that I am> not looking for any predictions, but pure technical pointers.> > Â> > When I mentioned that Mars is in Leo, in the Natal Chart, I> > meant that the sign placement of Mars was Leo. But>

> when we make the placidus ( KP ) Chart, in the house> > divisions due to the 12th Cusp beginning 16.29.34 Cancer> > and extending uptil 16.06.22 Leo, naturally Mars will land> > on this side of the Border, that is it would now move to the 12th> cusp.instead of being in the 1st house, in the natal Chart, without> House divisions.> > Â> > Now the above was KP.> > Â> > My query was - will this Mars be harmful, or harmless in the 12th> Cusp, but sign remaining unchanged, which is Leo ?> > Â> > I also appreciate your way of presentation and the hard work gone> behind it. I suppose you are a perfect candudate for seminars,> conferences and doing research work. This is genuine praise for the way> you have presented your article.> > Â> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > Â>

> Â> >> > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > I am extremely sorry if I have hurt you though unintentionally.> Kindly excuse me for my mis interpretation. I am In the massage box some> where I read that an international conference is being held in Hyderabad> in November this year. And some papers are to be presented in that> conference. Wrongly perhaps I understood that this study is also one> that is intended to be presented. I beg excuse again for my mis> understanding. How ever you need ot feel low about it. We should be> happy if we can conduct some seminars or conferences whether national or> international. I acually intended to present a way how to prepare a> paper for pesentation. I never

intended to tell any thing wrong about> you. I wanted to push a guiding line only. If any does desire to do some> research work for publication of presentation may go through my> following few lines. Just 5 minutes I tried to attach the file but> failed , I don't know why. So I am copying it here. I wanted to attach> > the> > > file since it is quite long. I shall be happy if you express that> you have excused me. Please go through the following.> > >> > >> > > Respected Scholars,> > > I am happy to know that there will be an International conference of> Astrology shortly in Hyderabad. I am too happy that some of our members> desire to present some papers in the conference. Now there is a project> from our scholar Sri Bhaskarji. But with much constrain I would like to> put forth that

when we do a research on any topic we have to observe> certain system. I would like to give some hints on this.> > > A project has to be made and studied following certain criteria> under certain headings.> > > Ideally the headings should be as follows: -> > > I..  Objective of the study.> > > II.. Material.> > > III. Method.> > > IV. Observation.> > > V.  Summery.> > > VI. Conclusion.> > > Â> > > I. Objective of the study.> > > Â> > > We should have specific aim and objectives to obtain from the study> the result of which should some way help us in practice. In this case> the objectives are as follows.> > > Â> > > a)  Which is the best position â¤"house placement> wise, for any badhakasthanadhipat i, to be, in a

chart? To be harmless?> > > b) Â What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> houses, for this badhakasthanadhipat i? To be harmless?> > > c)Â Â Â Â Â Is it good for a badhakasthanadhipat i> to be placed in its own house? Will it be less harmful then?> > > Â> > > There are three objectives. The research scholar wants to know the> sign which if the badhakasthanadhipat i takes occupation of, it shall> not be harmful.> > > The scholar also wants to find out which is the Nakshatra lord of> the badhakasthanadhipat i to modify the badhaka effect of the Adhipati.> > > Third thing he wants to find out is if a badhakasthanadhipat i is> less harmful when it occupies its own house. Well the answer can be> derived from the analysis done for objective "a". So this is a secondary>

objective.> > > The main objectives are "a" and "b".> > > Till now it is OK to some extent.> > > Â> > > II.. Material.> > > The material selected for the study is as follows: -> > > Â> > > For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be> the best house for it> > > to be placed in?> > > Â> > > Before we go to "Material" section, I would like to go back to the> "Objectives" . Here he mentions "For Fixed Signs". That means the> objective has become little more specific. Now the objectives can be> reformed as, "For people born in fixed signs, i.e. Taurus, Leo, Scorpio> and Aquarius, which should be the best position for the> badhakasthanadhipat i to be least harmful". Since we are considering> Ascendant in fixed signs we mean the lord of IX as

badhakasthanadhipat> i, since we conceive that the IX house is the badhakasthana for> Ascendant in fixed signs. So the focus is the IX lord.> > > Now the objectives "a" and "b" can be in one objective only. The> only objective now can be as follows: -> > > "Which is the best position for lord of IX in a chart, for people> born in fixed signs, to be harmless?"> > > This objective covers all.> > > Now going to the material to be used to be studied the Scholar has> given, "suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be the best> house for it to be placed in?"> > > When we review this sentence we find that we have 1. a blank chart> and 2. Ascendant is in Leo. This is incomplete and quite inadequate for> a study.> > > Inadequacies are as follows: -> > > 1. We do not know the exact longitude

of the Ascendant.> > > 2. We do not know the position of other cusps.> > > 3. We do not know the position of the planets.> > > With out having the above data it shall be utterly impossible to> study anything what to speak about a sensitive issue like badhaka effect> of lord of IX.> > > In my opinion we should have taken a real horoscope for study.> > > Next, from recent correspondences, it comes to mind that the Scholar> and many of us have in mind to focus on the XII bhaba. The conception> that the badhakasthanadhipat i if occupies XII bhava it does indict> death to the person.> > > Therefore we should have selected at least 4 horoscopes with the> Ascendant in Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius having the IX lord> posited in XII. From these horoscopes we should try to show that the> Lord of IX did not cause

death. By doing so we could have proved that> XII is the safest place where in the IX lord being posited does not> indict death.> > > Thus I would like to point out that the material is quite inadequate> for study.> > > Â> > > III. Method..> > > In these days we follow many methods for prediction. We have to be> very specific which method we use for this particular study. We have to> mention according to which method we observe/study and arrive at the> conclusion. The methods could be as follows: -> > > 1. Traditional.> > > 2. Stellar Astrology KSK.> > > 3. Sub Theory.> > > 4. 4 step theory.> > > 5. Any other.> > > I would like to say that the methods should not be mixed ones. It> should not be any one the above or any method propounded by the

Research> Scholar (the new method should be explained).> > > Â> > > IV. Observation.> > > Â> > > One has to explain the observations/ justifications in detail.> > > Â> > > V. Summery.> > > Â> > > One has to summarize the observations in brief.> > > Â> > > VI. Conclusion> > > In conclusion we should clearly mention whether we could find out> the answer to our question, whether we arrived at the goal of our> objective..> > > We could mention some thing as follows: -> > > 1. Such and such position of lord of IX in a chart, for people born> in fixed signs, is harmless. OR> > > 2. No position can be safeÂ> > > 3. Could not arrive at any decision and further study is necessary.> In this case some clues and

criteria have to be indicated for further> research to guide others to continue the search ahead.> > > If we add the references at the end the study shall be more> authentic.> > > The preparation has to be as suggested above. Presentation in the> conference may be according to convenience.> > > Â> > > So, concluding, according to me, in this particular study, we have> to review the objectives, the material and finalize the method we want> to use.> > > On the contrary I would like to add that this objective shall not> help us in any way in practice. One may not find in life time, unless he> is fortunate enough, a single horoscope with such a fortunate position> of the IX lord.> > > Â> > > Comments of seniors are cordially invited.> > > With most humble and due regards

to all the members.> > > Â> > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > >> > >> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > @gro ups.com> > > Monday, October 13, 2008 10:59:14 PM> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > Â> > > Yes Mr. Dhanbalanji is right. Mars is in Leo 6.19.00 along'with> > > Rahu also in Leo 6.41.00 but both these move to the 12th Cusp.> > > The 12th Cusp begins from 16.29.34 Cancer and extends uptil> > > 16.06.22 Leo. So Mars remains in Leo, but the Cusp changes.> > > Â> > > Now what are your comments on the same

?> > > Â> > > I also see you mentioning something about research to Sujata.> > > Please note that if you are talking about me, then I am not> connected to> > > any research work, and dont have time for all this, and not> affiliated with> > > any International astro organisation. I am nowhere> > > connected with these. If at all> > > in Life, a time comes when I have to do some research work, then> > > it would be done on my own experience and not on others sweat.> > > I already have crores rupee family business which I have> > > left , and work and earn from my own labours and not on others.> > > I am a very small and unknown person and not at all linked> > > to what you have mentioned.> > > Â> > > If You have received some information about this, then

please inform> the> > > members about the same, so that the afflicted parties have a chance> to> > > give their explanations, before you misunderstand and misjudge.> > > Â> > > Please clear any misunderstandings, before you move ahead.Here you> are meeting a man who does not even ask for a glass of water from anyone> so remain assured and continue.> > > Â> > > You please come out clear with what you meant about Â> > >   " research work " and who gave you this impression,> so that we can clear this.> > > Â> > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > Â> > > Â> > > Â> > > Â> > >> > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..>> wrote:> > >

>> > > > Dear Sujataji,> > > > Very late, I could understand that the topic has come to the group> toopinion of members for preparing a research paper. Had I known earlier> I would not have attempted in that way. In fact this is not a suitable> topic for presentating in an international conference of astrologers.> The material provided is not adequate. The result will not have any> practical application. I am undergoing through mental preparation to> take up the issue and put up before the group.> > > > With regards.> > > > Dr. Luther Rath> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Sunday, October 12, 2008

8:02:22 PM> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Dr Rath> > > > 11th house has the power to become auspicious for lagnas other> than movable. Why don't you cosider the sub as well. If ita in the sub> of significatir of good houses, its good.> > > > Regards> > > > Sujata> > > >> > > > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > wrote:> > > >> > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Friday, 10 October, 2008, 7:08 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear

Bhaskar,> > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request> feed back.> > > > Â> > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > > > Â> > > > * ..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and> Aries).> > > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by> occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house> to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be> safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is

8th to IX and> negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to> negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as> the constellations are considered..> > > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus> or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is> definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter,> Saturn and Mercury.> > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an> auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as> safe.> > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this> constellation is not safe as well..> > > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is

not very safe as considered.> > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus.> So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are> considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of> Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to> be harmless.> > > > Â> > > > Â> > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest> Nakshatra for Mars.> > > > Â> > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own> house? Will it be less harmful then?> > > > Â> > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars

occupies it> own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other> hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively> safe.> > > > Â> > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the> sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > > > Â> > > > With regards.> > > > Â> > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >

>> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear all,> > > >> > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > > >> > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > > >> > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> houses,> > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > > >> > > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own> house ?> > > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > > >> > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for> Mars,> > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > >

>> > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://messenger. / invite/> >>

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Dear Sujata,

// If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession....Death cannot be avoided. //

One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in this manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above without checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -

We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in front of any client or native.

When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for any native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you must always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass judgements about any issue related to the cusp.

In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of Mercury, then the results would have been quite contrary to what you mentioned.

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:>> Dear Bhasker> If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything without the full chart.. > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death cannot be avoided.> Regards> sujata> > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.> I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also take> opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.> > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather than> wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position> ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful> ?> > regards/Bhaskar.> > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar,> > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed> back.> >> > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> >> > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by> occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house> to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be> safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates> badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate> the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the> constellations are considered.> > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or> Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely> an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and> Mercury.> > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an> auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as> safe.> > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this> constellation is not safe as well.> > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So> they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are> considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of> Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to> be harmless.> >> >> > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house,> for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra> for Mars.> >> > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?> Will it be less harmful then?> >> > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own> house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand> if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.> >> > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the> sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> >> > With regards.> >> > Dr. Luther Rath.> >> >> >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > @gro ups.com> > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> >> >> >> > Dear all,> >> > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> >> > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> >> > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> >> > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house> ?> > Will it be less harmful then ?> >> > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> >> > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger./win/>

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dear bhaskarji,

 

thank u very much fo sharing ur knowledge in da group. even for people who know the subject, it is refreshing. as u said during transit accurate analysis of rahu and ketu is vry very intricate and an astrologer should very carefully assess these two nodes from every angle possible.

 

wishing u all da best

--- On Wed, 15/10/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ? Date: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008, 12:10 AM

 

 

 

Dear Shri Sujatkaramji,

Sir, Rahu is the planet which we have seen when it reigns as the Mahadasha Lord, has toppled many on the ground, and at the same time, also elevated people to most jealous heights of achievements.

 

To check the effects of what Rahu gives.

 

1) We check the placement of Rahu in which Cusp.

2) We check the Nakshatra owner - represents which houses.

3) We check the planet within 4 degrees orb - its placement and its nakshatra what houses it signifies.

4) We check the planet aspecting - its placement and its nakshatra owner what it signifies.

5) We check the Sign Lord of Rahu where it is placed, what it signifies, and its Nakshatra Owner what houses it signifies.

 

When so many factors come in play with the Nodes, it is not surprising that many changes would be affected in the natives Life, when the nodes appear, as Mahadasha or antardasha Lords.

 

The traditonal astrologers do not have the access to the above knowledge given to us by KP, hence they fail mostly to assess the real results of the Nodes, in a natives Life.

 

How to judge whether the MD of the Nodes would be favourable or not ?

 

If most of the planets in interplay from above process, suggest positive houses activated by the Nakshatra Owner ( I am talking of the Nakshatra owners of thes planets, and not of actual placements or ownerships of the Planets in question ), then the native will see a phemonenal rise, or else vice versa.

 

The 3rd Column - Sub Lord

 

I do not think that most of the Kp astrologers would be rectifying this column, or the birth time, every time they check a chart, unless it is a specific query regarded to marrriage where a astrologer can do the rectification of just the 7th Cusp and sit comfortably, or else a health problem where just the rectification of the 6th Cusp Sub Lord would suffice, to answer a specific query. Most of the times, due to time consuming and effort taken in rectifications, and also due to less financial considerations presented from the clients side, most of the astrologers will not bother to rectify the birth time of the native, and I feel to give a supposedly effective prediction, the 2nd column too would suffice in most of the cases, unless the 2nd column ( Of the Nakshatra ownership and its houses represented through placement and ownership) is resting on a border of any Cusp, which of course must be checked by every

astrologer before embarking on reading a chart.

 

This can be supplemented by a check with the Prashna Chart, where we do not have to bother about the accuracy of the Cusps or the birth time , or the rectifications, and here the 3rd Column of SubLords can be used effectively to confirm the above prediction made through just the 2nd column.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

@gro ups.com, "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram@. ...> wrote:>> Respected Mr. Bhaskar,> Sir,> The signification properties of Rahu/Ketu are always intrigueing to > me me and I always get confused. From second para of your post I > gather that in your opinion Rahu/Ketu give results of all, i.e.of > their sign-lord,of planets which they are in conjunction with, of > planets by which they are aspected and finally of their star-lords .I > may be wrong. Would you please clarify sir ?> regards,> sujatkaram. @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Sundarji,> > > > You are talking of the last antar of the Mars MD preceding the > start of> > the Rahu MD. All such areas of the Vim Dasha would more or les bring> > about changes in

ones Professional Life, in 99% of the Horoscopes, > one> > may tend to study.> > > > This is because the Nodes will always activate a numnber of houses > in a> > persons Life, due to, Lordship of the sign owner, Conjunction, > Aspects> > and Star levels of the Nodes.> > > > In My case I have always worked independently in family business, or> > else my own professional activities, and I am in a number of such> > activities, therefore I do not particularly remember anything > special,> > but yes The Mahadsha of Rahu brought in spectacular changes in My> > Professional Life ( Relatively from the Mars MD), for the better. > And> > also this does not happen in a day, so somewhere something may have > been> > making movement, I am sorry cannot remember anything unusual, but >

can> > just say That whatever i was doing in Mars Mahadasha, I got a much> > better exposure in Rahu Mahadasha, status wise and financially. I > was> > never working in a job or in service since last 25 Years.> > > > best wishes,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Sundar Balakrishnan> > <sundar190561@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar> > > Â> > > Where there any change in your job in Mars/Moon?> > >> > > Â> > > Thanks...... .....Sundar> > >> > > --- On Tue, 14/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >

@gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 11:44 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > I hope that you have cleared yourself of any misunderstanding > about me> > and my intentions. This was a pure technical query aimed at> > understanding the harmless position of badhaka Lords.> > > Â> > > I hope you are now convinced that I am not affiliated to any > seminar,> > conference, research, research papers, or at all connected to any> > attendee of any seminar, nor do I have any knowledge of any such > seminar> > being held anywhere in the world. I also do not have any time for > the> > next 5-7 years to enter such luxuries , as am busy

earning my> > > monthly expenditures like any other  humble middle class> > > householder in Bombay.  I have never visited Hyderabd more than> > once in my Life, nor do I have time to leave Bombay , from my daily> > duties. Here the position is such that daily one has to lower the> > tumbler daily in the well, for his daily water, and one cannot > think of> > any other activities as he will miss his daily lunch and dinner, if > he> > indulges in luxurious pastimes. Â> > > Â> > > Now coming to the particular query I put up. That was my own > chart.> > The birth details are as under -> > > Â> > > 28th June 1961 Time - 10.15am> > > Place Eluru ( Near Vijaywada ) 16.45 N, 81.09 E> > > Â> > > I have already passed my Mars Mahadasha, so it is obvious that I

> am> > not looking for any predictions, but pure technical pointers.> > > Â> > > When I mentioned that Mars is in Leo, in the Natal Chart, I> > > meant that the sign placement of Mars was Leo. But> > > when we make the placidus ( KP ) Chart, in the house> > > divisions due to the 12th Cusp beginning 16.29.34 Cancer> > > and extending uptil 16.06.22 Leo, naturally Mars will land> > > on this side of the Border, that is it would now move to the 12th> > cusp.instead of being in the 1st house, in the natal Chart, without> > House divisions.> > > Â> > > Now the above was KP.> > > Â> > > My query was - will this Mars be harmful, or harmless in the 12th> > Cusp, but sign remaining unchanged, which is Leo ?> > > Â> > > I also appreciate

your way of presentation and the hard work gone> > behind it. I suppose you are a perfect candudate for seminars,> > conferences and doing research work. This is genuine praise for the > way> > you have presented your article.> > > Â> > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > Â> > > Â> > >> > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > > I am extremely sorry if I have hurt you though unintentionally.> > Kindly excuse me for my mis interpretation. I am In the massage box > some> > where I read that an international conference is being held in > Hyderabad> > in November this year. And some papers are to be presented in that> > conference. Wrongly perhaps I

understood that this study is also one> > that is intended to be presented. I beg excuse again for my mis> > understanding. How ever you need ot feel low about it. We should be> > happy if we can conduct some seminars or conferences whether > national or> > international. I acually intended to present a way how to prepare a> > paper for pesentation. I never intended to tell any thing wrong > about> > you. I wanted to push a guiding line only. If any does desire to do > some> > research work for publication of presentation may go through my> > following few lines. Just 5 minutes I tried to attach the file but> > failed , I don't know why. So I am copying it here. I wanted to > attach> > > the> > > > file since it is quite long. I shall be happy if you express > that> > you have excused me.

Please go through the following.> > > >> > > >> > > > Respected Scholars,> > > > I am happy to know that there will be an International > conference of> > Astrology shortly in Hyderabad. I am too happy that some of our > members> > desire to present some papers in the conference. Now there is a > project> > from our scholar Sri Bhaskarji. But with much constrain I would > like to> > put forth that when we do a research on any topic we have to observe> > certain system. I would like to give some hints on this.> > > > A project has to be made and studied following certain criteria> > under certain headings.> > > > Ideally the headings should be as follows: -> > > > I.. Â Objective of the study.> > > > II.. Material.> > > >

III. Method.> > > > IV. Observation.> > > > V.  Summery.> > > > VI. Conclusion.> > > > Â> > > > I. Objective of the study.> > > > Â> > > > We should have specific aim and objectives to obtain from the > study> > the result of which should some way help us in practice. In this > case> > the objectives are as follows.> > > > Â> > > > a)  Which is the best position â€"house placement> > wise, for any badhakasthanadhipat i, to be, in a chart? To be > harmless?> > > > b)  What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> > houses, for this badhakasthanadhipat i? To be harmless?> > > > c)     Is it good for a badhakasthanadhipat i> > to be placed in its own house? Will it be less

harmful then?> > > > Â> > > > There are three objectives. The research scholar wants to know > the> > sign which if the badhakasthanadhipat i takes occupation of, it > shall> > not be harmful.> > > > The scholar also wants to find out which is the Nakshatra lord > of> > the badhakasthanadhipat i to modify the badhaka effect of the > Adhipati.> > > > Third thing he wants to find out is if a badhakasthanadhipat i > is> > less harmful when it occupies its own house. Well the answer can be> > derived from the analysis done for objective "a". So this is a > secondary> > objective.> > > > The main objectives are "a" and "b".> > > > Till now it is OK to some extent.> > > > Â> > > > II.. Material.> > > > The material

selected for the study is as follows: -> > > > Â> > > > For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what > must be> > the best house for it> > > > to be placed in?> > > > Â> > > > Before we go to "Material" section, I would like to go back to > the> > "Objectives" . Here he mentions "For Fixed Signs". That means the> > objective has become little more specific. Now the objectives can be> > reformed as, "For people born in fixed signs, i.e. Taurus, Leo, > Scorpio> > and Aquarius, which should be the best position for the> > badhakasthanadhipat i to be least harmful". Since we are considering> > Ascendant in fixed signs we mean the lord of IX as > badhakasthanadhipat> > i, since we conceive that the IX house is the badhakasthana for> > Ascendant in

fixed signs. So the focus is the IX lord.> > > > Now the objectives "a" and "b" can be in one objective only. The> > only objective now can be as follows: -> > > > "Which is the best position for lord of IX in a chart, for > people> > born in fixed signs, to be harmless?"> > > > This objective covers all.> > > > Now going to the material to be used to be studied the Scholar > has> > given, "suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars, what must be the best> > house for it to be placed in?"> > > > When we review this sentence we find that we have 1. a blank > chart> > and 2. Ascendant is in Leo. This is incomplete and quite inadequate > for> > a study.> > > > Inadequacies are as follows: -> > > > 1.. We do not know the exact longitude of the Ascendant.> >

> > 2. We do not know the position of other cusps.> > > > 3. We do not know the position of the planets.> > > > With out having the above data it shall be utterly impossible to> > study anything what to speak about a sensitive issue like badhaka > effect> > of lord of IX.> > > > In my opinion we should have taken a real horoscope for study.> > > > Next, from recent correspondences, it comes to mind that the > Scholar> > and many of us have in mind to focus on the XII bhaba. The > conception> > that the badhakasthanadhipat i if occupies XII bhava it does indict> > death to the person.> > > > Therefore we should have selected at least 4 horoscopes with the> > Ascendant in Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius having the IX lord> > posited in XII. From these horoscopes we should try to

show that the> > Lord of IX did not cause death. By doing so we could have proved > that> > XII is the safest place where in the IX lord being posited does not> > indict death.> > > > Thus I would like to point out that the material is quite > inadequate> > for study.> > > > Â> > > > III. Method..> > > > In these days we follow many methods for prediction. We have to > be> > very specific which method we use for this particular study. We > have to> > mention according to which method we observe/study and arrive at the> > conclusion. The methods could be as follows: -> > > > 1. Traditional.> > > > 2. Stellar Astrology KSK.> > > > 3. Sub Theory.> > > > 4. 4 step theory.> > > > 5. Any other.> > > > I

would like to say that the methods should not be mixed ones. > It> > should not be any one the above or any method propounded by the > Research> > Scholar (the new method should be explained).> > > > Â> > > > IV. Observation.> > > > Â> > > > One has to explain the observations/ justifications in detail.> > > > Â> > > > V. Summery.> > > > Â> > > > One has to summarize the observations in brief.> > > > Â> > > > VI. Conclusion> > > > In conclusion we should clearly mention whether we could find > out> > the answer to our question, whether we arrived at the goal of our> > objective..> > > > We could mention some thing as follows: -> > > > 1. Such and such position of lord of IX in a

chart, for people > born> > in fixed signs, is harmless. OR> > > > 2. No position can be safeÂ> > > > 3. Could not arrive at any decision and further study is > necessary.> > In this case some clues and criteria have to be indicated for > further> > research to guide others to continue the search ahead.> > > > If we add the references at the end the study shall be more> > authentic.> > > > The preparation has to be as suggested above. Presentation in > the> > conference may be according to convenience.> > > > Â> > > > So, concluding, according to me, in this particular study, we > have> > to review the objectives, the material and finalize the method we > want> > to use.> > > > On the contrary I would like to add that this

objective shall > not> > help us in any way in practice. One may not find in life time, > unless he> > is fortunate enough, a single horoscope with such a fortunate > position> > of the IX lord.> > > > Â> > > > Comments of seniors are cordially invited.> > > > With most humble and due regards to all the members.> > > > Â> > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Monday, October 13, 2008 10:59:14 PM> > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,>

> > > Â> > > > Yes Mr. Dhanbalanji is right. Mars is in Leo 6.19.00 along'with> > > > Rahu also in Leo 6.41.00 but both these move to the 12th Cusp.> > > > The 12th Cusp begins from 16.29.34 Cancer and extends uptil> > > > 16.06.22 Leo. So Mars remains in Leo, but the Cusp changes.> > > > Â> > > > Now what are your comments on the same ?> > > > Â> > > > I also see you mentioning something about research to Sujata.> > > > Please note that if you are talking about me, then I am not> > connected to> > > > any research work, and dont have time for all this, and not> > affiliated with> > > > any International astro organisation. I am nowhere> > > > connected with these. If at all> > > > in Life, a time comes when I

have to do some research work, then> > > > it would be done on my own experience and not on others sweat.> > > > I already have crores rupee family business which I have> > > > left , and work and earn from my own labours and not on others.> > > > I am a very small and unknown person and not at all linked> > > > to what you have mentioned.> > > > Â> > > > If You have received some information about this, then please > inform> > the> > > > members about the same, so that the afflicted parties have a > chance> > to> > > > give their explanations, before you misunderstand and > misjudge.> > > > Â> > > > Please clear any misunderstandings, before you move ahead.Here > you> > are meeting a man who does not even ask for a

glass of water from > anyone> > so remain assured and continue.> > > > Â> > > > You please come out clear with what you meant about Â> > > >   " research work " and who gave you this impression,> > so that we can clear this.> > > > Â> > > > best wishes,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > Â> > > > Â> > > > Â> > > > Â> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..>> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sujataji,> > > > > Very late, I could understand that the topic has come to the > group> > toopinion of members for preparing a research paper. Had I known > earlier> > I would not have attempted in that way. In

fact this is not a > suitable> > topic for presentating in an international conference of > astrologers.> > The material provided is not adequate. The result will not have any> > practical application. I am undergoing through mental preparation > to> > take up the issue and put up before the group.> > > > > With regards.> > > > > Dr. Luther Rath> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:02:22 PM> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best > position ?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >

Dear Dr Rath> > > > > 11th house has the power to become auspicious for lagnas other> > than movable. Why don't you cosider the sub as well. If ita in the > sub> > of significatir of good houses, its good.> > > > > Regards> > > > > Sujata> > > > >> > > > > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Luther Rath rathluther > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > > > > Re: Badhaka - What is the best > position ?> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Friday, 10 October, 2008, 7:08 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I

request> > feed back.> > > > > Â> > > > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > > > > Â> > > > > * ..Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius > and> > Aries).> > > > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka > sthana by> > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th > house> > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears > to be> > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it

is 8th to IX and> > negates badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes > strong to> > negate the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as > long as> > the constellations are considered.> > > > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or > Venus> > or Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is> > definitely an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of > Jupiter,> > Saturn and Mercury.> > > > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not > an> > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be > considered as> > safe.> > > > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is > this> > constellation is not safe as well.> > > > > * Saturn owns

houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not > auspicious.> > > > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > > > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and > Venus.> > So they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects > are> > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the > constellation of> > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant > to> > be harmless.> > > > > Â> > > > > Â> > > > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> > house, for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest> > Nakshatra for Mars.> > > > > Â> > > > > c) Is it good for

a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house? Will it be less harmful then?> > > > > Â> > > > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars > occupies it> > own house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the > other> > hand if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be > relatively> > safe..> > > > > Â> > > > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies > the> > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > > > > Â> > > > > With regards.> > > > > Â> > > > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear all,> > > > >> > > > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > > > >> > > > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > > > >> > > > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which> > houses,> > > > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > > > >> > > > >

c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its > own> > house ?> > > > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > > > >> > > > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for> > Mars,> > > > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > > > >> > > > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >

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Dear Mr.Bhaskar,

 

What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, but posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any way?

 

Astrologically yors,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

 

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Bhaskar

Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM

Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?

 

 

 

Dear Sujata,

// If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession....Death cannot be avoided. //

One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in this manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above without checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -

We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in front of any client or native.

When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for any native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you must always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass judgements about any issue related to the cusp.

In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of Mercury, then the results would have been quite contrary to what you mentioned.

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:>> Dear Bhasker> If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything without the full chart.. > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death cannot be avoided.> Regards> sujata> > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.> I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also take> opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.> > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather than> wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position> ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful> ?> > regards/Bhaskar.> > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar,> > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed> back.> >> > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> >> > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by> occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house> to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be> safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates> badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate> the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the> constellations are considered.> > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or> Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely> an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and> Mercury.> > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an> auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as> safe.> > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this> constellation is not safe as well.> > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So> they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are> considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of> Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to> be harmless.> >> >> > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house,> for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra> for Mars.> >> > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?> Will it be less harmful then?> >> > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own> house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand> if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.> >> > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the> sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> >> > With regards.> >> > Dr. Luther Rath.> >> >> >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > @gro ups.com> > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> >> >> >> > Dear all,> >> > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> >> > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> >> > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> >> > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house> ?> > Will it be less harmful then ?> >> > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> >> > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger./win/>

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Dear Bhasker

If there are no planets in mars star then ofcourse its bad. Is it not?

Regards

Sujata--- On Wed, 15/10/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ? Date: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008, 7:48 AM

 

 

 

Dear Sujata,

// If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be avoided. //

One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in this manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above without checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. -

We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in front of any client or native.

When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for any native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you must always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass judgements about any issue related to the cusp.

In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of Mercury, then the results would have been quite contrary to what you mentioned.

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

@gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ....> wrote:>> Dear Bhasker> If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything without the full chart.. > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death cannot be avoided.> Regards> sujata> > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> @gro ups.com> Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.> I can understand that some time

has been given to this. I also take> opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.> > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather than> wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position> ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful> ?> > regards/Bhaskar.> > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar,> > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed> back.> >> > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be

harmless?> >> > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by> occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house> to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be> safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates> badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate> the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the> constellations are considered.> > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or> Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely> an advantage. Scorpio contains

the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and> Mercury.> > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an> auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as> safe.> > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this> constellation is not safe as well.> > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So> they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are> considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of> Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to> be harmless.> >> >> > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house,> for this

Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra> for Mars.> >> > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?> Will it be less harmful then?> >> > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own> house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand> if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.> >> > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the> sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> >> > With regards.> >> > Dr. Luther Rath.> >> >> >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > @gro ups.com> > Thursday,

October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> >> >> >> > Dear all,> >> > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> >> > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> >> > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> >> > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house> ?> > Will it be less harmful then ?> >> > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> >> > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?>

>> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger ./ win/>

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Dear Sujata,

I did not quite understand what you mean by this. When you take Mars as the Cuspal Sub Lord of the 7th or 10th, and have to decide what would be the effects, of Mars, then You got to see in which star is Mars placed, and Not the other way round.

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:>> Dear Bhasker> If there are no planets in mars star then ofcourse its bad. Is it not?> Regards > Sujata> > --- On Wed, 15/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > Wednesday, 15 October, 2008, 7:48 AM> > > > > > > > Dear Sujata,> // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession.. ..Death cannot be avoided. //> One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in this manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above without checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. - > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in front of any client or native.> When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for any native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you must always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass judgements about any issue related to the cusp.> In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of Mercury, then the results would have been quite contrary to what you mentioned.> regards,> Bhaskar.> >  > > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhasker> > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything without the full chart.. > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death cannot be avoided.> > Regards> > sujata> > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > @gro ups.com> > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.> > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also take> > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.> > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather than> > wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position> > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful> > ?> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed> > back.> > >> > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > >> > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by> > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house> > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be> > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates> > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate> > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the> > constellations are considered.> > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or> > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely> > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and> > Mercury.> > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an> > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as> > safe.> > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this> > constellation is not safe as well.> > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So> > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are> > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of> > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to> > be harmless.> > >> > >> > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house,> > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra> > for Mars.> > >> > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?> > Will it be less harmful then?> > >> > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own> > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand> > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.> > >> > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the> > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > >> > > With regards.> > >> > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear all,> > >> > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > >> > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > >> > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > >> > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house> > ?> > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > >> > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > >> > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger ./ win/> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/>

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Dear Shri Ramanaji,

 

 

// What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, but posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any way? //

( I am not an authority to reply any such queries in the presence of great Masters like Tinwinji, Shri Yogesh ji, Shri Raichurji, Shri Swamiji, Shri Gondhlekarji , Shri Kanakji, Shri Rajeevji, and many other such great people of their cadres whose names I may have missed and who adorn this great Forum . My humble attempt though with pranams to these Masters ) -

 

The answer would depend on many factors.

 

1) If Mars is positioned in a badhaksthan which may be the 7th, or as the badhakLord for any ascendant placed in the 7th, then it would produce badhas with regards to marriage, whenever it gets power as a dasha lord or antar lord.

 

2) Now there is another factor which has to be taken in consideration - Mars is owner of which houses in the birth chart ?

 

3) The third factor is, the 7th Lord represents which other house in the chart , as the owner ?

 

4) The fourth factor is, where is the 7th Lord placed ?

 

Thus we will have to check what Mars represents, and what does the 7th Lord represents in order to gauge the actual results of whether Mars would be harmful, harmless or positive .

 

Especially results may differ, when the 7th Lord has ownership of evil houses in the chart, or benefic houses in the chart. The same stands for Mars.

 

Thus there can be no hard and fast rule for anyone to judge what Mars can effect, being placed in the 7th in the star of the 7th Lord.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani wrote:>> Dear Mr.Bhaskar,> > What would be the result if in a chart, Mars is not CSL of 7th, but posited in 7th in the star of 7th Lord. Would it harm marriage any way?> > Astrologically yors,> > K.S.V.Ramani> - > Bhaskar > > Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:48 AM> Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > Dear Sujata,> > // If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession....Death cannot be avoided. //> > One cannot jump to conclusions, and blurt out any negatives in this manner, without using some discretions. One cannot say the above without checking the star of the Cusp Sub Lord. - > > We do not use such words with definiteness in astrology in front of any client or native.> > When you talk of the Sub Lord of any cusp being good or bad for any native, just on the basis of where the Cuspal Sub Lord is placed in house, you are talking only half truth or half lies, because you must always check in which star this sublord is placed, before you pass judgements about any issue related to the cusp.> > In this case, suppose the Mars would have been in star of Mercury, then the results would have been quite contrary to what you mentioned.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > , sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhasker> > If mars is cuspal sublord of 7th or 10th house, then its neither good for marriage nor profession. One cannot consider anything without the full chart.. > > Basically badhaka is to give obstructions and death and bad health.For the 1st and 3rd problem 11th house is the best. Death cannot be avoided.> > Regards> > sujata> > > > --- On Sun, 12/10/08, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > Re: Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > > > Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 4:00 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lutherji,> > > > I thank you for this beautiful, pain staking and a very educative post.> > I can understand that some time has been given to this. I also take> > opposrtuity to thank all those who have contributed to his thread.> > > > This is what we need in the forum, discussions on topics, rather than> > wanton predictions given to non-issues.> > > > I also would like to take this thread further ahead -> > > > Suppose Mars is placed in the Lagna in sign Leo, but in Cuspal position> > ( KP Chart ), it moves to the 12th Cusp, then is this Mars less harmful> > ?> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > My opinion in regards to your queries is as follows. I request feed> > back.> > >> > > Badhakasthanaadhipa ti is Mars.> > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart? To be harmless?> > >> > > * .Mars should not occupy II, VII and IX. (Virgo, Aquarius and Aries).> > > * .Mars could occupy to be harmless by negating badhaka sthana by> > occupying II (6th house to IX), IV (8th house to IX) or VIII (12th house> > to IX). But II is maraka sthana so not harmless, VIII is house for> > accidents and other troubles, so this too is not safe. IV appears to be> > safe till now. Thus Mars should not occupy Pisces as well.> > > * Mars should occupy IV (Scorpio) since it is 8th to IX and negates> > badhaka effect. As it occupies its own sign it becomes strong to negate> > the result of its other house. But it cannot be final as long as the> > constellations are considered.> > > * IX cusp in Aries can be in the constellation of Kethu or Venus or> > Sun. Scorpio does not contain these constellations. This is definitely> > an advantage. Scorpio contains the constellations of Jupiter, Saturn and> > Mercury.> > > * Jupiter owns house VIII. Though VIII negates IX, it is not an> > auspicious house. So Mars is this constellation may not be considered as> > safe.> > > * Mercury owns II the maraca sthana, occupation of Mars is this> > constellation is not safe as well.> > > * Saturn owns houses VI and VII. So Saturn is also not auspicious.> > > * So Mars in Scorpio is not very safe as considered.> > > * The planets that have not come to fore front are Moon and Venus. So> > they are definitely safe as long as maraca and badhaka effects are> > considered. The conjoined zone of Moon and Venus is the constellation of> > Rohini in Taurus. This should be the safest sign for Mars to tenant to> > be harmless.> > >> > >> > > b) What is the best planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which house,> > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless?> > > * As per the last clause, Rohini appears to be the safest Nakshatra> > for Mars.> > >> > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house?> > Will it be less harmful then?> > >> > > * In this particular instance we may note that if Mars occupies it own> > house Aries its strength as a badhaka is supplemented. On the other hand> > if it occupies the other house Scorpio it appears to be relatively safe.> > >> > > Perhaps not much can be assessed until and unless one studies the> > sub-lord of Mars and sub-lords of other cusps.> > >> > > With regards.> > >> > > Dr. Luther Rath.> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:23:35 PM> > > Badhaka - What is the best position ?> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear all,> > >> > > With reference to the Badhaka, I have 2 queries.> > >> > > a) Which is the best position - house placement wise, for any> > > badhaksthanadhipati , to be, in a chart ?To be harmless ?> > >> > > b) What is the best Planet to be as Nakshatra owner, of which houses,> > > for this Badhaksthanadhipati ? To be harmless ?> > >> > > c) Is it good for a badhaksthanadhipati to be placed in its own house> > ?> > > Will it be less harmful then ?> > >> > > For instance, For Fixed signs, suppose Leo ascendant, then for Mars,> > > what must be the best house for it to be placed in ?> > >> > > What nakshatra owner must be this Mars, in, to be harmless ?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger./win/> >>