Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Dear Astrologers My daughter is running moon dasa since '01.Moon is in 10 along with sun and ke. Moon is in ven in 11 l/o 3 8 and sub of ra in 4. But ra is agent of mer in 11. Current dasa is moon ke. Ke is conj. 10th cusp. in own star and sub of sat in 7 l/o 11 12.I suppose that this period will bring about her marriage and not job. Since moon is lord of 5 in 10, I had thought that she would love someone at her workplace whom she would marry. But she has not got a job yet. She is 25yrs old. Time, she married or got a job. She is frustrated as she did not clear the IAS exam. At that time she had moom mer dasa. Mer is in star of sun in 10 l/o 6. I was so dissapointed. Now she has an interview for air-hostess with Singapore Airlines on 11-10-08. A horary horoscpe on the interview was not positive. My horary queries about her getting through IAS were always positive. She would like to give the IAS exam next year too, but her impatience to earn right away may frustrate the 2nd attempt for IAS. I was wondering if ke with moon and sun in 10th bhava was responsible as moon mer period was not fruitful. What do you have to say about her future Her tob is 13-1-83, pob N. Delhi, tob is 11am as rectified by Mr K. Ganpathy. Regards Sujata Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Dear Sujata, She would get the job in late November and early December.Her current period till middle of October is also good to land the jobMarriage would happen in 2009 and your thoughts on love happening at work place is good next year. There is love connection to her marriage. Regarding her future, she will be Overseas on Professional job Provide feed back. RegardsSudhir On 10/3/08, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: Dear AstrologersMy daughter is running moon dasa since '01.Moon is in 10 along with sun and ke. Moon is in ven in 11 l/o 3 8 and sub of ra in 4. But ra is agent of mer in 11. Current dasa is moon ke. Ke is conj. 10th cusp. in own star and sub of sat in 7 l/o 11 12.I suppose that this period will bring about her marriage and not job. Since moon is lord of 5 in 10, I had thought that she would love someone at her workplace whom she would marry. But she has not got a job yet. She is 25yrs old. Time, she married or got a job. She is frustrated as she did not clear the IAS exam. At that time she had moom mer dasa. Mer is in star of sun in 10 l/o 6. I was so dissapointed. Now she has an interview for air-hostess with Singapore Airlines on 11-10-08. A horary horoscpe on the interview was not positive. My horary queries about her getting through IAS were always positive. She would like to give the IAS exam next year too, but her impatience to earn right away may frustrate the 2nd attempt for IAS.I was wondering if ke with moon and sun in 10th bhava was responsible as moon mer period was not fruitful. What do you have to say about her future Her tob is 13-1-83, pob N. Delhi, tob is 11am as rectified by Mr K. Ganpathy.RegardsSujataAdd more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ -- Sudhir Consulting Astrologer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Respected Mrs.Sujata Garu & Sri. Sudhir Garu, Namasthe, Both of you expressed that this native will have love marriage. But in my opinion, such type of love marriage won't take place. Rule No.1:-If the sub lord of the 5th cusp is deposited in the constellation of a planet who is the significator of the houses 7 and 11, then materialization of the love affair is promised. (Horary Astrology, 6th Reader, 6th edition Page no. 191). As per this rule 1 , Rahu the sub lord of 5th is deposited in the constellation of his own who is not at all a significator of 7 and 11. He signifies 4th only which is a negation for 5th (LOVE). Rule 2:- When a node is in its star or sub, it attains the full signification of its Rasilord. (K.P. & Astrology August 1990 Page No.17.) Rahu the 5th cuspal sub lord is a node and it is in its own star. So it attains the signification of its Rasilord (i.e.) Rahu is placed in Midhuna. Mercury is the sign lord of Midhuna. So Mercury is the first grade significator of 10th which is a negation to 11th. No planets in Mercury's stars. So in my opinion this native may not be involved in love marriage, (100%). Rule No.3. - If the Sub lord of 12th cusp is a significator of either 3rd,or 9th or 12th house, one goes abroad.(Horary Astrology, 6th edition, Page No.264). As per the 4th rule cited above, 12th cusp sub lord Mercury is not at all to either for 3rd, or 9th, or 12th. But he signifies 10, 11, 6, 4 & 7 strength wise respectively star wise and sub wise also. So no chances are there for this native to go abroad. Rule No.4.(Traditional one by Late Sri. B.V.Raman ):- When the planet occupying the 12th house from that of the lord of the lagna is well placed in an exalted or friendly house or is aspected by a friendly or exalted planet, the Native will prosper in his homeland only. The lagna lord Jupiter is in Vrischika and Saturn is the occupant of Libra which is 12 th to the lagna lord's placement. Libra is an exalted sign for Saturn. So the above rule is fully satisfied. Hence the native will shine and prosper only in her native land. So I have come to a conclusion that this native will not go abroad. Rule 5:- When a planet holds the sub lordship on certain cusps, having no planets in its stars, that planet can be deemed to be a self strong significator for the cusp concerned. (K.P.Year Book 2006, Published by Krishman Publications, Chennai, Page no.125B). As per this rule Mercury holds the sub lordship of 12th having no planets in its stars. So Mercury is to be considered as a self strong significator for 12th cusp. (But as per the rule 5th cited above, Mercury will become a self strong significator for the 12th. ) Moon Dasa/Mercury Bhukti = 23-05- 2007 to 22-10-2008 Moon Dasa/Ketu Bhukti = 22-10-2008 to 22-05-2009 Moon is in the star of Venus and in the sub or Rahu .Moon dasanatha signifies11, 10, 3, 8, & 5starwise and 4 sub wise. Ketu is in its own star and in the sub of Saturn. So it signifies 10th only star wise and 4, 7, 11, & 12 sub wise. In Moon's signification 3-10-11 and 4; in ketu's signification 10 and 4 should be taken in to consideration while judging the job/profession. 3rd house = signals, Airmail, courage, short travels etc.etc. 10th house = profession/job. 11th house = fulfillment of desire (Labha) 4th house = native land (Motherland) Keeping in view all the above mentioned factors, I can declare that her love affair will never be materialized, no question of going abroad, and she will get a job during Moon dasa/Ketu bhukti. Later on only marriage will be solemnized as there is an aspect of Saturn on Moon which indicate late marriage. Awaiting your suggestions and remarks in detailed way. With best regards, Astrologically yours, V.S.N.Murthy PS: Birth Chart of Mrs.Sujata's daughter is uploaded under Files section viz., " Mrs Sujatas Daughter Birth chart.pdf " . , Sudhir <taurus.sudhir wrote: > > Dear Sujata, > > She would get the job in late November and early December. > Her current period till middle of October is also good to land the job > Marriage would happen in 2009 and your thoughts on love happening at work > place is good next year. > There is love connection to her marriage. > > Regarding her future, she will be Overseas on Professional job > > Provide feed back. > > Regards > Sudhir > > > On 10/3/08, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers > > My daughter is running moon dasa since '01.Moon is in 10 along with sun and > > ke. Moon is in ven in 11 l/o 3 8 and sub of ra in 4. But ra is agent of mer > > in 11. Current dasa is moon ke. Ke is conj. 10th cusp. in own star and sub > > of sat in 7 l/o 11 12.I suppose that this period will bring about her > > marriage and not job. Since moon is lord of 5 in 10, I had thought that she > > would love someone at her workplace whom she would marry. But she has not > > got a job yet. She is 25yrs old. Time, she married or got a job. She is > > frustrated as she did not clear the IAS exam. At that time she had moom mer > > dasa. Mer is in star of sun in 10 l/o 6. I was so dissapointed. Now she has > > an interview for air-hostess with Singapore Airlines on 11-10- 08. A horary > > horoscpe on the interview was not positive. My horary queries about her > > getting through IAS were always positive. > > She would like to give the IAS exam next year too, but her impatience to > > earn right away may frustrate the 2nd attempt for IAS. > > I was wondering if ke with moon and sun in 10th bhava was responsible as > > moon mer period was not fruitful. > > What do you have to say about her future Her tob is 13-1-83, pob N. Delhi, > > tob is 11am as rectified by Mr K. Ganpathy. > > Regards > > Sujata > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > http://messenger./invite/ > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sudhir Consulting Astrologer > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Dear Mr Murty Ra is agent of mer in 11,l/o 7. Regards Sujata--- On Sun, 5/10/08, vsnm_vdl <vsnm_vdl wrote: vsnm_vdl <vsnm_vdl Re: daughters's marriage/job Date: Sunday, 5 October, 2008, 10:30 PM Respected Mrs.Sujata Garu & Sri. Sudhir Garu,Namasthe,Both of you expressed that this native will have love marriage. But in my opinion, such type of love marriage won't take place.Rule No.1:-If the sub lord of the 5th cusp is deposited in the constellation of a planet who is the significator of the houses 7 and 11, then materialization of the love affair is promised. (Horary Astrology, 6th Reader, 6th edition Page no. 191). As per this rule 1 , Rahu the sub lord of 5th is deposited in the constellation of his own who is not at all a significator of 7 and 11. He signifies 4th only which is a negation for 5th (LOVE).Rule 2:- When a node is in its star or sub, it attains the full signification of its Rasilord. (K.P. & Astrology August 1990 Page No.17.) Rahu the 5th cuspal sub lord is a node and it is in its own star. So it attains the signification of its Rasilord (i.e.) Rahu is placed in Midhuna. Mercury is the sign lord of Midhuna. So Mercury is the first grade significator of 10th which is a negation to 11th. No planets in Mercury's stars.So in my opinion this native may not be involved in love marriage,(100%).Rule No.3. - If the Sub lord of 12th cusp is a significator of either 3rd,or 9th or 12th house, one goes abroad.(Horary Astrology, 6th edition, Page No.264).As per the 4th rule cited above, 12th cusp sub lord Mercury is not at all to either for 3rd, or 9th, or 12th. But he signifies 10, 11, 6, 4 & 7 strength wise respectively star wise and sub wise also. So no chances are there for this native to go abroad.Rule No.4.(Traditional one by Late Sri. B.V.Raman ):- When the planet occupying the 12th house from that of the lord of the lagna is well placed in an exalted or friendly house or is aspected by a friendly or exalted planet, the Native will prosper in his homeland only.The lagna lord Jupiter is in Vrischika and Saturn is the occupant of Libra which is 12 th to the lagna lord's placement. Libra is an exalted sign for Saturn. So the above rule is fully satisfied. Hence the native will shine and prosper only in her native land. So I have come to a conclusion that this native will not go abroad.Rule 5:- When a planet holds the sub lordship on certain cusps, having no planets in its stars, that planet can be deemed to be a self strong significator for the cusp concerned. (K.P.Year Book 2006, Published by Krishman Publications, Chennai, Page no.125B). As per this rule Mercury holds the sub lordship of 12th having no planets in its stars. So Mercury is to be considered as a self strong significator for 12th cusp.(But as per the rule 5th cited above, Mercury will become a self strong significator for the 12th. ) Moon Dasa/Mercury Bhukti = 23-05-2007 to 22-10-2008Moon Dasa/Ketu Bhukti = 22-10-2008 to 22-05-2009Moon is in the star of Venus and in the sub or Rahu .Moon dasanatha signifies11, 10, 3, 8, & 5starwise and 4 sub wise. Ketu is in its own star and in the sub of Saturn. So it signifies 10th only star wise and 4, 7, 11, & 12 sub wise.In Moon's signification 3-10-11 and 4; in ketu's signification 10 and 4 should be taken in to consideration while judging the job/profession.3rd house = signals, Airmail, courage, short travels etc.etc.10th house = profession/job.11th house = fulfillment of desire (Labha) 4th house = native land (Motherland)Keeping in view all the above mentioned factors, I can declare that her love affair will never be materialized, no question of going abroad, and she will get a job during Moon dasa/Ketu bhukti. Later on only marriage will be solemnized as there is an aspect of Saturn on Moon which indicate late marriage.Awaiting your suggestions and remarks in detailed way.With best regards,Astrologically yours, V.S.N.MurthyPS: Birth Chart of Mrs.Sujata's daughter is uploaded under Files section viz., "Mrs Sujatas Daughter Birth chart.pdf".@gro ups.com, Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sujata,> > She would get the job in late November and early December.> Her current period till middle of October is also good to land the job> Marriage would happen in 2009 and your thoughts on love happening at work> place is good next year.> There is love connection to her marriage.> > Regarding her future, she will be Overseas on Professional job> > Provide feed back.> > Regards> Sudhir> > > On 10/3/08, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Astrologers> > My daughter is running moon dasa since '01.Moon is in 10 along with sun and> > ke. Moon is in ven in 11 l/o 3 8 and sub of ra in 4. But ra is agent of mer> > in 11. Current dasa is moon ke. Ke is conj. 10th cusp. in own star and sub> > of sat in 7 l/o 11 12.I suppose that this period will bring about her> > marriage and not job. Since moon is lord of 5 in 10, I had thought that she> > would love someone at her workplace whom she would marry.. But she has not> > got a job yet. She is 25yrs old. Time, she married or got a job. She is> > frustrated as she did not clear the IAS exam. At that time she had moom mer> > dasa. Mer is in star of sun in 10 l/o 6. I was so dissapointed. Now she has> > an interview for air-hostess with Singapore Airlines on 11-10-08. A horary> > horoscpe on the interview was not positive. My horary queries about her> > getting through IAS were always positive.> > She would like to give the IAS exam next year too, but her impatience to> > earn right away may frustrate the 2nd attempt for IAS.> > I was wondering if ke with moon and sun in 10th bhava was responsible as> > moon mer period was not fruitful.> > What do you have to say about her future Her tob is 13-1-83, pob N. Delhi,> > tob is 11am as rectified by Mr K. Ganpathy.> > Regards> > Sujata> >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > >> > > > -- > Sudhir Consulting Astrologer> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Dear V.S.N.Murthy ji, For learning purpose, here are some points to discuss as per the chart provided in the file setion and for the BTR TOB, there is no point to pin down the exact POB location of big Delhi by Google Earth. Love Marriage 5 CSL Ra is in 4; in own star; aspected by Su in 10 l/o 6 & Mo in 10 l/o 5; Sgl Me in 1 l/o 4,7; in sub Ju+ in 8 l/o 1,10; No planet in star of Ju, which is sublord of 3,10,11. 7 CSL Ve is in 11 l/o 3,8; in star of Mo in 10 l/o 5; in sub Sa in 7 /o 11 ,12. Love marriage is possible as 5CSL signifies 7 and 7CSL signifies 5. "I conducted a study on the 100 charts Kanak had used for the Multi-marriage study. All of them were cases of Multi-marriages. All were charts of Foreign Births....Since all marriages are Love Marriages, I found the Rule "5th cusp s/l connected with 7th " in more than 90 percent cases. The connection is by 5th S/l Signifies 7th or 7th s/l signifies 5th or Both are the same." -Shri Raichur (Msg#11132 of this group) Foreign Going 12 CSL Me+ is in 10 l/o 4,7; no planet is in star of Me, which is sublord of 12; Me conj Ve in 11 l/o 3,8; in star of Su in 10 l/o 6; in own sub. Foreign going is possible as 12CSL signifies 12,3 in an unusal manner. For foreign settlement 3,9,12 signification by 1CSL and connection of 3,9,12 significators are required. BV Raman's rule seems more appropriate for foreign settlement, for which a malefic influence on the fourth house or fourth lord is appeared to be a necessary condition in Vedic, and also a connection of the fourth lord with twelfth lord. For air hostessess, signification of 3,9,12 in dasa and transit and connection with Rahu (foreigners) are found significant. (M.S. Mehta: Planets and Travel Abroad) Job & Marriage Current Running Dasa lord Mo in 10 l/o 5: in star of Ve in 11 l/o 3,8; in sub Ra signifying ,10,6,5,11,7. Current runningBhukti lord Me is as discussed above. Next Bhukti lord Ke is in 10; in own star; conj Su in 10 l/o 6 & Mo in 10 l/o 5; aspected by Sa in 7,11; sgl Ju+ in 8 l/o 1,10; No planet in star of Ju, which is sublord of 3,10,11; in sub Sa in 7 l/o 11,12. Following Bhukti lord Ve in 11 l/o 3,8; in star of Mo in 10 l/o 5; in sub Sa in 7 l/o 11,12. Same opinion for a job in Mo-Ke DB and then marriage in Mo-Ve DB while transit Ju will be in Cn in 2009. Punarphoo seems not cancelled by burning of Mo by Su's ray as per Dr. Kar's rule. Other Points Rule-5 (K.P.Year Book > 2006, Published by Krishman Publications, Chennai, Page no.125B ?? not correct page no) of Kuppu Ganapathi, Vaikari Ramamurthy, Kanak Bosmia and others ?? is found working particularly in thw case of Mercury. Rule-2 (K.P. & Astrology August 1990 Page No.17.) cannot be reconciled what is found in the study on RAHU-KETU%20RULES[1].doc RAHU/KETU RULES IN KP and Rahu and Ketu and their Significance.pdf Rahu & Ketu and their Significance by Shri Bhatt in the file section. Who is the author of this Rule-2? Astrologer have been skeptic about the result of Ketu in the tenth house. Dr. B.V. Raman saw the possibility of religious merits and worldly renown during Ketu dasa if it was in the tenth houe, but he was hesitant in granting it a starin-free life. Saturn's aspect could make the person even a scavenger, he thought. -Bepin Behari: Astrlogical Biographies (Dr. Vashishta Narayan Singh, Asc Pi, Ke in 10 opposite Ma & Sa) page 351 Thanks and regards, tw , "vsnm_vdl" <vsnm_vdl wrote:>> Respected Mrs.Sujata Garu & Sri. Sudhir Garu,> Namasthe,> Both of you expressed that this native will have love > marriage. But in my opinion, such type of love marriage won't take > place.> > Rule No.1:-If the sub lord of the 5th cusp is deposited in the > constellation of a planet who is the significator of the houses 7 > and 11, then materialization of the love affair is promised. (Horary > Astrology, 6th Reader, 6th edition Page no. 191). As per this rule > 1 , Rahu the sub lord of 5th is deposited in the constellation of > his own who is not at all a significator of 7 and 11. He signifies > 4th only which is a negation for 5th (LOVE).> > Rule 2:- When a node is in its star or sub, it attains the full > signification of its Rasilord. (K.P. & Astrology August 1990 Page > No.17.) Rahu the 5th cuspal sub lord is a node and it is in its own > star. So it attains the signification of its Rasilord (i.e.) Rahu is > placed in Midhuna. Mercury is the sign lord of Midhuna. So Mercury > is the first grade significator of 10th which is a negation to 11th. > No planets in Mercury's stars.> > So in my opinion this native may not be involved in love marriage,> (100%).> > > Rule No.3. - If the Sub lord of 12th cusp is a significator of > either 3rd,or 9th or 12th house, one goes abroad.(Horary Astrology, > 6th edition, Page No.264).> As per the 4th rule cited above, 12th cusp sub lord Mercury is not > at all to either for 3rd, or 9th, or 12th. But he signifies 10, 11, > 6, 4 & 7 strength wise respectively star wise and sub wise also. So > no chances are there for this native to go abroad.> > Rule No.4.(Traditional one by Late Sri. B.V.Raman ):- When the > planet occupying the 12th house from that of the lord of the lagna > is well placed in an exalted or friendly house or is aspected by a > friendly or exalted planet, the > Native will prosper in his homeland only.> The lagna lord Jupiter is in Vrischika and Saturn is the occupant of > Libra which is 12 th to the lagna lord's placement. Libra is an > exalted sign for Saturn. So the above rule is fully satisfied. Hence > the native will shine and prosper only in her native land. So I have > come to a conclusion that this native will not go abroad.> > Rule 5:- When a planet holds the sub lordship on certain cusps, > having no planets in its stars, that planet can be deemed to be a > self strong significator for the cusp concerned. (K.P.Year Book > 2006, Published by Krishman Publications, Chennai, Page no.125B). As > per this rule Mercury holds the sub lordship of 12th having no > planets in its stars. So Mercury is to be considered as a self > strong significator for 12th cusp.> > (But as per the rule 5th cited above, Mercury will become a self > strong significator for the 12th. ) Moon Dasa/Mercury Bhukti = 23-05-> 2007 to 22-10-2008> Moon Dasa/Ketu Bhukti = 22-10-2008 to 22-05-2009> Moon is in the star of Venus and in the sub or Rahu .Moon dasanatha > signifies11, 10, 3, 8, & 5starwise and 4 sub wise. > Ketu is in its own star and in the sub of Saturn. So it signifies > 10th only star wise and 4, 7, 11, & 12 sub wise.> In Moon's signification 3-10-11 and 4; in ketu's signification 10 > and 4 should be taken in to consideration while judging the > job/profession.> 3rd house = signals, Airmail, courage, short travels etc.etc.> 10th house = profession/job.> 11th house = fulfillment of desire (Labha) > 4th house = native land (Motherland)> Keeping in view all the above mentioned factors, I can declare that > her love affair will never be materialized, no question of going > abroad, and she will get a job during Moon dasa/Ketu bhukti. Later > on only marriage will be solemnized as there is an aspect of Saturn > on Moon which indicate late marriage.> > Awaiting your suggestions and remarks in detailed way.> > With best regards,> Astrologically yours, > V.S.N.Murthy> > PS: Birth Chart of Mrs.Sujata's daughter is uploaded under Files > section viz., "Mrs Sujatas Daughter Birth chart.pdf".> > , Sudhir taurus.sudhir@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sujata,> > > > She would get the job in late November and early December.> > Her current period till middle of October is also good to land the > job> > Marriage would happen in 2009 and your thoughts on love happening > at work> > place is good next year.> > There is love connection to her marriage.> > > > Regarding her future, she will be Overseas on Professional job> > > > Provide feed back.> > > > Regards> > Sudhir> > > > > > On 10/3/08, sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Astrologers> > > My daughter is running moon dasa since '01.Moon is in 10 along > with sun and> > > ke. Moon is in ven in 11 l/o 3 8 and sub of ra in 4. But ra is > agent of mer> > > in 11. Current dasa is moon ke. Ke is conj. 10th cusp. in own > star and sub> > > of sat in 7 l/o 11 12.I suppose that this period will bring > about her> > > marriage and not job. Since moon is lord of 5 in 10, I had > thought that she> > > would love someone at her workplace whom she would marry. But > she has not> > > got a job yet. She is 25yrs old. Time, she married or got a job. > She is> > > frustrated as she did not clear the IAS exam. At that time she > had moom mer> > > dasa. Mer is in star of sun in 10 l/o 6. I was so dissapointed. > Now she has> > > an interview for air-hostess with Singapore Airlines on 11-10-> 08. A horary> > > horoscpe on the interview was not positive. My horary queries > about her> > > getting through IAS were always positive.> > > She would like to give the IAS exam next year too, but her > impatience to> > > earn right away may frustrate the 2nd attempt for IAS.> > > I was wondering if ke with moon and sun in 10th bhava was > responsible as> > > moon mer period was not fruitful.> > > What do you have to say about her future Her tob is 13-1-83, pob > N. Delhi,> > > tob is 11am as rectified by Mr K. Ganpathy.> > > Regards> > > Sujata> > >> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > > http://messenger./invite/> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > Sudhir Consulting Astrologer> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Dear TWji I am very happy to see your comprehensive analysis. Won't she find her spouse in her workplace? During ra bhukti she would threaten to leave the house because of some reason which was torchering her. So, ra's trine aspect on mars and sat can only explain it.Her friende talked her out of it. Regards Sujata--- On Tue, 7/10/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: daughters's marriage/job Date: Tuesday, 7 October, 2008, 11:38 PM Dear V.S.N.Murthy ji, For learning purpose, here are some points to discuss as per the chart provided in the file setion and for the BTR TOB, there is no point to pin down the exact POB location of big Delhi by Google Earth. Love Marriage 5 CSL Ra is in 4; in own star; aspected by Su in 10 l/o 6 & Mo in 10 l/o 5; Sgl Me in 1 l/o 4,7; in sub Ju+ in 8 l/o 1,10; No planet in star of Ju, which is sublord of 3,10,11. 7 CSL Ve is in 11 l/o 3,8; in star of Mo in 10 l/o 5; in sub Sa in 7 /o 11 ,12. Love marriage is possible as 5CSL signifies 7 and 7CSL signifies 5. "I conducted a study on the 100 charts Kanak had used for the Multi-marriage study. All of them were cases of Multi-marriages. All were charts of Foreign Births....Since all marriages are Love Marriages, I found the Rule "5th cusp s/l connected with 7th " in more than 90 percent cases. The connection is by 5th S/l Signifies 7th or 7th s/l signifies 5th or Both are the same." -Shri Raichur (Msg#11132 of this group) Foreign Going 12 CSL Me+ is in 10 l/o 4,7; no planet is in star of Me, which is sublord of 12; Me conj Ve in 11 l/o 3,8; in star of Su in 10 l/o 6; in own sub. Foreign going is possible as 12CSL signifies 12,3 in an unusal manner. For foreign settlement 3,9,12 signification by 1CSL and connection of 3,9,12 significators are required. BV Raman's rule seems more appropriate for foreign settlement, for which a malefic influence on the fourth house or fourth lord is appeared to be a necessary condition in Vedic, and also a connection of the fourth lord with twelfth lord. For air hostessess, signification of 3,9,12 in dasa and transit and connection with Rahu (foreigners) are found significant. (M.S. Mehta: Planets and Travel Abroad) Job & Marriage Current Running Dasa lord Mo in 10 l/o 5: in star of Ve in 11 l/o 3,8; in sub Ra signifying ,10,6,5,11,7. Current runningBhukti lord Me is as discussed above. Next Bhukti lord Ke is in 10; in own star; conj Su in 10 l/o 6 & Mo in 10 l/o 5; aspected by Sa in 7,11; sgl Ju+ in 8 l/o 1,10; No planet in star of Ju, which is sublord of 3,10,11; in sub Sa in 7 l/o 11,12. Following Bhukti lord Ve in 11 l/o 3,8; in star of Mo in 10 l/o 5; in sub Sa in 7 l/o 11,12. Same opinion for a job in Mo-Ke DB and then marriage in Mo-Ve DB while transit Ju will be in Cn in 2009. Punarphoo seems not cancelled by burning of Mo by Su's ray as per Dr. Kar's rule. Other Points Rule-5 (K.P.Year Book > 2006, Published by Krishman Publications, Chennai, Page no.125B ?? not correct page no) of Kuppu Ganapathi, Vaikari Ramamurthy, Kanak Bosmia and others ?? is found working particularly in thw case of Mercury. Rule-2 (K.P. & Astrology August 1990 Page No.17.) cannot be reconciled what is found in the study on RAHU-KETU%20RULES[ 1].doc RAHU/KETU RULES IN KP and Rahu and Ketu and their Significance. pdf Rahu & Ketu and their Significance by Shri Bhatt in the file section. Who is the author of this Rule-2? Astrologer have been skeptic about the result of Ketu in the tenth house. Dr. B.V. Raman saw the possibility of religious merits and worldly renown during Ketu dasa if it was in the tenth houe, but he was hesitant in granting it a starin-free life. Saturn's aspect could make the person even a scavenger, he thought. -Bepin Behari: Astrlogical Biographies (Dr. Vashishta Narayan Singh, Asc Pi, Ke in 10 opposite Ma & Sa) page 351 Thanks and regards, tw @gro ups.com, "vsnm_vdl" <vsnm_vdl wrote:>> Respected Mrs.Sujata Garu & Sri. Sudhir Garu,> Namasthe,> Both of you expressed that this native will have love > marriage. But in my opinion, such type of love marriage won't take > place.> > Rule No.1:-If the sub lord of the 5th cusp is deposited in the > constellation of a planet who is the significator of the houses 7 > and 11, then materialization of the love affair is promised. (Horary > Astrology, 6th Reader, 6th edition Page no. 191). As per this rule > 1 , Rahu the sub lord of 5th is deposited in the constellation of > his own who is not at all a significator of 7 and 11. He signifies > 4th only which is a negation for 5th (LOVE).> > Rule 2:- When a node is in its star or sub, it attains the full > signification of its Rasilord. (K.P. & Astrology August 1990 Page > No.17.) Rahu the 5th cuspal sub lord is a node and it is in its own > star. So it attains the signification of its Rasilord (i.e.) Rahu is > placed in Midhuna. Mercury is the sign lord of Midhuna. So Mercury > is the first grade significator of 10th which is a negation to 11th. > No planets in Mercury's stars.> > So in my opinion this native may not be involved in love marriage,> (100%).> > > Rule No.3. - If the Sub lord of 12th cusp is a significator of > either 3rd,or 9th or 12th house, one goes abroad.(Horary Astrology, > 6th edition, Page No.264).> As per the 4th rule cited above, 12th cusp sub lord Mercury is not > at all to either for 3rd, or 9th, or 12th. But he signifies 10, 11, > 6, 4 & 7 strength wise respectively star wise and sub wise also. So > no chances are there for this native to go abroad.> > Rule No.4.(Traditional one by Late Sri. B.V.Raman ):- When the > planet occupying the 12th house from that of the lord of the lagna > is well placed in an exalted or friendly house or is aspected by a > friendly or exalted planet, the > Native will prosper in his homeland only.> The lagna lord Jupiter is in Vrischika and Saturn is the occupant of > Libra which is 12 th to the lagna lord's placement. Libra is an > exalted sign for Saturn. So the above rule is fully satisfied. Hence > the native will shine and prosper only in her native land. So I have > come to a conclusion that this native will not go abroad.> > Rule 5:- When a planet holds the sub lordship on certain cusps, > having no planets in its stars, that planet can be deemed to be a > self strong significator for the cusp concerned. (K.P.Year Book > 2006, Published by Krishman Publications, Chennai, Page no.125B). As > per this rule Mercury holds the sub lordship of 12th having no > planets in its stars. So Mercury is to be considered as a self > strong significator for 12th cusp.> > (But as per the rule 5th cited above, Mercury will become a self > strong significator for the 12th. ) Moon Dasa/Mercury Bhukti = 23-05-> 2007 to 22-10-2008> Moon Dasa/Ketu Bhukti = 22-10-2008 to 22-05-2009> Moon is in the star of Venus and in the sub or Rahu .Moon dasanatha > signifies11, 10, 3, 8, & 5starwise and 4 sub wise. > Ketu is in its own star and in the sub of Saturn. So it signifies > 10th only star wise and 4, 7, 11, & 12 sub wise.> In Moon's signification 3-10-11 and 4; in ketu's signification 10 > and 4 should be taken in to consideration while judging the > job/profession.> 3rd house = signals, Airmail, courage, short travels etc.etc.> 10th house = profession/job.> 11th house = fulfillment of desire (Labha) > 4th house = native land (Motherland)> Keeping in view all the above mentioned factors, I can declare that > her love affair will never be materialized, no question of going > abroad, and she will get a job during Moon dasa/Ketu bhukti. Later > on only marriage will be solemnized as there is an aspect of Saturn > on Moon which indicate late marriage.> > Awaiting your suggestions and remarks in detailed way.> > With best regards,> Astrologically yours, > V.S.N..Murthy> > PS: Birth Chart of Mrs.Sujata's daughter is uploaded under Files > section viz., "Mrs Sujatas Daughter Birth chart.pdf".> > @gro ups.com, Sudhir taurus.sudhir@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sujata,> > > > She would get the job in late November and early December.> > Her current period till middle of October is also good to land the > job> > Marriage would happen in 2009 and your thoughts on love happening > at work> > place is good next year.> > There is love connection to her marriage.> > > > Regarding her future, she will be Overseas on Professional job> > > > Provide feed back.> > > > Regards> > Sudhir> > > > > > On 10/3/08, sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Astrologers> > > My daughter is running moon dasa since '01.Moon is in 10 along > with sun and> > > ke. Moon is in ven in 11 l/o 3 8 and sub of ra in 4. But ra is > agent of mer> > > in 11. Current dasa is moon ke. Ke is conj. 10th cusp. in own > star and sub> > > of sat in 7 l/o 11 12.I suppose that this period will bring > about her> > > marriage and not job. Since moon is lord of 5 in 10, I had > thought that she> > > would love someone at her workplace whom she would marry. But > she has not> > > got a job yet. She is 25yrs old. Time, she married or got a job. > She is> > > frustrated as she did not clear the IAS exam. At that time she > had moom mer> > > dasa. Mer is in star of sun in 10 l/o 6. I was so dissapointed. > Now she has> > > an interview for air-hostess with Singapore Airlines on 11-10-> 08. A horary> > > horoscpe on the interview was not positive. My horary queries > about her> > > getting through IAS were always positive.> > > She would like to give the IAS exam next year too, but her > impatience to> > > earn right away may frustrate the 2nd attempt for IAS.> > > I was wondering if ke with moon and sun in 10th bhava was > responsible as> > > moon mer period was not fruitful.> > > What do you have to say about her future Her tob is 13-1-83, pob > N. Delhi,> > > tob is 11am as rectified by Mr K. Ganpathy.> > > Regards> > > Sujata> > >> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > > http://messenger. / invite/> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > Sudhir Consulting Astrologer> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Respected Mr.Tin Win Ji, Namasthe. Really I am very proud of you to say that all the members of including me are very very lucky to have your timely valuable suggestions as they will be a future guidance for us. Now-a-days there are only a few K.P.STALWARTS. Sir, You are one among them. So I humbly request your esteemed honour to be kind enough to continue your services in guiding ;us always. I pray GOD to bestow you the happy and prosperous long life so as to enable you to serve this society of K.P. Thanking You Sir, Yours faithfully, V.S.N.Murthy. , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > > Dear V.S.N.Murthy ji, > > For learning purpose, here are some points to discuss as per the chart > provided in the file setion and for the BTR TOB, there is no point to > pin down the exact POB location of big Delhi by Google Earth. > > Love Marriage > > 5 CSL Ra is in 4; in own star; aspected by Su in 10 l/o 6 & Mo in 10 l/o > 5; Sgl Me in 1 l/o 4,7; in sub Ju+ in 8 l/o 1,10; No planet in star of > Ju, which is sublord of 3,10,11. > 7 CSL Ve is in 11 l/o 3,8; in star of Mo in 10 l/o 5; in sub Sa in 7 /o > 11 ,12. > Love marriage is possible as 5CSL signifies 7 and 7CSL signifies 5. > > " I conducted a study on the 100 charts Kanak had used for the > Multi-marriage study. All of them were cases of Multi-marriages. All > were charts of Foreign Births....Since all marriages are Love Marriages, > I found the Rule " 5th cusp s/l connected with 7th " in more than 90 > percent cases. The connection is by 5th S/l Signifies 7th or 7th s/l > signifies 5th or Both are the same. " > -Shri Raichur (Msg#11132 of this group) > > Foreign Going > > 12 CSL Me+ is in 10 l/o 4,7; no planet is in star of Me, which is > sublord of 12; Me conj Ve in 11 l/o 3,8; in star of Su in 10 l/o 6; in > own sub. > Foreign going is possible as 12CSL signifies 12,3 in an unusal manner. > For foreign settlement 3,9,12 signification by 1CSL and connection of > 3,9,12 significators are required. BV Raman's rule seems more > appropriate for foreign settlement, for which a malefic influence on the > fourth house or fourth lord is appeared to be a necessary condition in > Vedic, and also a connection of the fourth lord with twelfth lord. For > air hostessess, signification of 3,9,12 in dasa and transit and > connection with Rahu (foreigners) are found significant. (M.S. Mehta: > Planets and Travel Abroad) > > Job & Marriage > > Current Running Dasa lord Mo in 10 l/o 5: in star of Ve in 11 l/o 3,8; > in sub Ra signifying ,10,6,5,11,7. > > Current runningBhukti lord Me is as discussed above. > Next Bhukti lord Ke is in 10; in own star; conj Su in 10 l/o 6 & Mo in > 10 l/o 5; aspected by Sa in 7,11; sgl Ju+ in 8 l/o 1,10; No planet in > star of Ju, which is sublord of 3,10,11; in sub Sa in 7 l/o 11,12. > Following Bhukti lord Ve in 11 l/o 3,8; in star of Mo in 10 l/o 5; in > sub Sa in 7 l/o 11,12. > > Same opinion for a job in Mo-Ke DB and then marriage in Mo-Ve DB while > transit Ju will be in Cn in 2009. Punarphoo seems not cancelled by > burning of Mo by Su's ray as per Dr. Kar's rule. > > Other Points > > Rule-5 (K.P.Year Book > 2006, Published by Krishman Publications, > Chennai, Page no.125B ?? not correct page no) of Kuppu Ganapathi, > Vaikari Ramamurthy, Kanak Bosmia and others ?? is found working > particularly in thw case of Mercury. > > Rule-2 (K.P. & Astrology August 1990 Page No.17.) cannot be reconciled > what is found in the study on RAHU-KETU%20RULES[1].doc > <http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/kJXrSIY3W3ENfNC0aL4PzTjBrg7RkytrU8ZiSwb1nQ\ > AD-_PMaCX-S_96rQAQ3wGxS9LC5P-uyanNW6otcxrfyqznNw/RAHU-KETU%2520RULES%5B1\ > %5D.doc> > RAHU/KETU RULES IN KP and > > Rahu and Ketu and their Significance.pdf > <http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/kJXrSHEj1AMNfNC0ETIOLvy5p8fQ1fFOjQK1QhNYee\ > ry6hPDc4nOnkm03mPChJCtRAxQ1q6JQ-CyudMyEUYr5Pv0uQ/Rahu%20and%20Ketu%20and\ > %20their%20Significance.pdf> > Rahu & Ketu and their Significance by Shri Bhatt > > in the file section. > > Who is the author of this Rule-2? > > Astrologer have been skeptic about the result of Ketu in the tenth > house. Dr. B.V. Raman saw the possibility of religious merits and > worldly renown during Ketu dasa if it was in the tenth houe, but he was > hesitant in granting it a starin-free life. Saturn's aspect could make > the person even a scavenger, he thought. > -Bepin Behari: Astrlogical Biographies (Dr. Vashishta Narayan Singh, Asc > Pi, Ke in 10 opposite Ma & Sa) page 351 > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > > > > > , " vsnm_vdl " <vsnm_vdl@> wrote: > > > > Respected Mrs.Sujata Garu & Sri. Sudhir Garu, > > Namasthe, > > Both of you expressed that this native will have love > > marriage. But in my opinion, such type of love marriage won't take > > place. > > > > Rule No.1:-If the sub lord of the 5th cusp is deposited in the > > constellation of a planet who is the significator of the houses 7 > > and 11, then materialization of the love affair is promised. (Horary > > Astrology, 6th Reader, 6th edition Page no. 191). As per this rule > > 1 , Rahu the sub lord of 5th is deposited in the constellation of > > his own who is not at all a significator of 7 and 11. He signifies > > 4th only which is a negation for 5th (LOVE). > > > > Rule 2:- When a node is in its star or sub, it attains the full > > signification of its Rasilord. (K.P. & Astrology August 1990 Page > > No.17.) Rahu the 5th cuspal sub lord is a node and it is in its own > > star. So it attains the signification of its Rasilord (i.e.) Rahu is > > placed in Midhuna. Mercury is the sign lord of Midhuna. So Mercury > > is the first grade significator of 10th which is a negation to 11th. > > No planets in Mercury's stars. > > > > So in my opinion this native may not be involved in love marriage, > > (100%). > > > > > > Rule No.3. - If the Sub lord of 12th cusp is a significator of > > either 3rd,or 9th or 12th house, one goes abroad.(Horary Astrology, > > 6th edition, Page No.264). > > As per the 4th rule cited above, 12th cusp sub lord Mercury is not > > at all to either for 3rd, or 9th, or 12th. But he signifies 10, 11, > > 6, 4 & 7 strength wise respectively star wise and sub wise also. So > > no chances are there for this native to go abroad. > > > > Rule No.4.(Traditional one by Late Sri. B.V.Raman ):- When the > > planet occupying the 12th house from that of the lord of the lagna > > is well placed in an exalted or friendly house or is aspected by a > > friendly or exalted planet, the > > Native will prosper in his homeland only. > > The lagna lord Jupiter is in Vrischika and Saturn is the occupant of > > Libra which is 12 th to the lagna lord's placement. Libra is an > > exalted sign for Saturn. So the above rule is fully satisfied. Hence > > the native will shine and prosper only in her native land. So I have > > come to a conclusion that this native will not go abroad. > > > > Rule 5:- When a planet holds the sub lordship on certain cusps, > > having no planets in its stars, that planet can be deemed to be a > > self strong significator for the cusp concerned. (K.P.Year Book > > 2006, Published by Krishman Publications, Chennai, Page no.125B). As > > per this rule Mercury holds the sub lordship of 12th having no > > planets in its stars. So Mercury is to be considered as a self > > strong significator for 12th cusp. > > > > (But as per the rule 5th cited above, Mercury will become a self > > strong significator for the 12th. ) Moon Dasa/Mercury Bhukti = 23-05- > > 2007 to 22-10-2008 > > Moon Dasa/Ketu Bhukti = 22-10-2008 to 22-05-2009 > > Moon is in the star of Venus and in the sub or Rahu .Moon dasanatha > > signifies11, 10, 3, 8, & 5starwise and 4 sub wise. > > Ketu is in its own star and in the sub of Saturn. So it signifies > > 10th only star wise and 4, 7, 11, & 12 sub wise. > > In Moon's signification 3-10-11 and 4; in ketu's signification 10 > > and 4 should be taken in to consideration while judging the > > job/profession. > > 3rd house = signals, Airmail, courage, short travels etc.etc. > > 10th house = profession/job. > > 11th house = fulfillment of desire (Labha) > > 4th house = native land (Motherland) > > Keeping in view all the above mentioned factors, I can declare that > > her love affair will never be materialized, no question of going > > abroad, and she will get a job during Moon dasa/Ketu bhukti. Later > > on only marriage will be solemnized as there is an aspect of Saturn > > on Moon which indicate late marriage. > > > > Awaiting your suggestions and remarks in detailed way. > > > > With best regards, > > Astrologically yours, > > V.S.N.Murthy > > > > PS: Birth Chart of Mrs.Sujata's daughter is uploaded under Files > > section viz., " Mrs Sujatas Daughter Birth chart.pdf " . > > > > , Sudhir taurus.sudhir@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sujata, > > > > > > She would get the job in late November and early December. > > > Her current period till middle of October is also good to land the > > job > > > Marriage would happen in 2009 and your thoughts on love happening > > at work > > > place is good next year. > > > There is love connection to her marriage. > > > > > > Regarding her future, she will be Overseas on Professional job > > > > > > Provide feed back. > > > > > > Regards > > > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > On 10/3/08, sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers > > > > My daughter is running moon dasa since '01.Moon is in 10 along > > with sun and > > > > ke. Moon is in ven in 11 l/o 3 8 and sub of ra in 4. But ra is > > agent of mer > > > > in 11. Current dasa is moon ke. Ke is conj. 10th cusp. in own > > star and sub > > > > of sat in 7 l/o 11 12.I suppose that this period will bring > > about her > > > > marriage and not job. Since moon is lord of 5 in 10, I had > > thought that she > > > > would love someone at her workplace whom she would marry. But > > she has not > > > > got a job yet. She is 25yrs old. Time, she married or got a job. > > She is > > > > frustrated as she did not clear the IAS exam. At that time she > > had moom mer > > > > dasa. Mer is in star of sun in 10 l/o 6. I was so dissapointed. > > Now she has > > > > an interview for air-hostess with Singapore Airlines on 11-10- > > 08. A horary > > > > horoscpe on the interview was not positive. My horary queries > > about her > > > > getting through IAS were always positive. > > > > She would like to give the IAS exam next year too, but her > > impatience to > > > > earn right away may frustrate the 2nd attempt for IAS. > > > > I was wondering if ke with moon and sun in 10th bhava was > > responsible as > > > > moon mer period was not fruitful. > > > > What do you have to say about her future Her tob is 13-1-83, pob > > N. Delhi, > > > > tob is 11am as rectified by Mr K. Ganpathy. > > > > Regards > > > > Sujata > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > > http://messenger./invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sudhir Consulting Astrologer > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Respected Smt.Sujata Garu, Namasthe, Your daughter's natal chart is reviewed and it is as follows. (1) When Saturn is connected in any way to 2-7-11 then the native will be married to an aged person. (i.e.) age difference will be more between wife and husband. 2nd cusp co-rulers are Mars/Ven/Sun. Mars is the sign lord of 2nd is in Kumbha sign and that sign lord is Sat. Ven is placed in 11th. Its owner is Sat. Venus is in the sub of Sat. Sun is in the star of Sat. 7th cusp co-rulers are Merc/Sun/Ven. Mercury is the occupant of Makara which is Sat's own house. Sun is in the star of Sat. Ven is in sat's sub and it is placed in Makara. 11th cusp co-rulers are Sat/Sun/Jup. Sat himself is the 11th sign lord. Sun is in the star of Sat. Jup is in the star of Sat. Thus all the co rulers of 2-7-11 are connected with Sat. 11th lord Sat is placed in 7th and aspecting 2nd. Thus Saturn is well connected to 2-7-11. So this girl may marry an old person as her husband. (Age difference will be more), (2) If the 11th cuspal sub lord is in any way connected to 5th and 7th, then love marriage can be expected. The 11th cusp sub lord Ketu is at 10; in her own star; conjoined with Sun lord of 6th and also Moon lord of 5th in 10th; and it is also aspected by Sat in 7 who is the ;owner of 11th. Therefore love marriage can be expected. Let us discuss about Dasanatha and Bhuktinathas. (1) DASANATHA MOON: - Moon is the lord of 5 in 10 and in the star of Ven lord of 3 & 8 at 11, Moon is in the sub of Rahu. This Rahu is in the sub of Jup who is having no planets in its stars holds the sub lordship of 3-10-11. So Jup is the strong signification for 3-10-11 cusps. And he is also a strong signification for 7th as he is in the star of Saturn who is at 7. 7th = legal bondage the wife and husband. 3rd = negotiations and interviews. 10th = profession 11th = permanent happiness, fulfillment of desire whether it may be related to either job or marriage. Therefore Moon dasa may be taken into consideration while judging the matters of job or marriage. (2) KETU AS BHUKTINATHA:- " Nodes firstly, gives the results of the planet or planets with which they are conjoined, secondly the lord of the star in which it is deposited, then the planet or planets aspecting them and then the lord of the sign in which they are deposited. " Ketu is very closely conjoined with the 10th cusp as well as with the luminaries (i.e.) Sun & Moon. Ketu has to offer the results of Sun and Moon firstly. Sun signifies 10 and 6 starwise and 12,2 & 9 sub wise . Moon signifies 11, 10, 3,8 & 5 starwise and 4 subwise Ketu is in its own star and the occupant of 10th. So it signifies 10th strongly. Ketu is aspected by Rahu and Saturn. So it has to give the results of the both. Rahu signifies 4th & it is in the ;sub of Jup + signifies 7th strongly, 8,11, 12,1 & 10 feebly. Jupiter is the dispositor of Ketu having no planets in its stars holds the sub lordship for 3-10-11. As explained above Ketu is a good significator for 10, 6, 11, 3, and 7. 10th = Job/Profession 6th = salaried job (Service) 3rd = interviews and negotiations 11th = fulfillment of desire These houses are all helpful in getting the job. So Ketu is selected as bhuktinatha for giving job. (3) Next coming bhukti is VENUS:- Generally the marriage will be celebrated during the dasa-bhukti –anthra's of Venus. Venus is the chief significator for kalatra. (i.e.) wife / husband. Moon is the chief significator for mind. Nakshtra Parivarthana (Mutual star lord exchange) of Moon and Venus is visible clearly in this chart. This sort of Yoga will thrive the native's intention of having spouse to the native. Venus holds the star lordship for 2nd; sub lordship for 7th and the sub-sub lordship for 11th. Venus is thus connected to 2, 7 & 11. Venus is the occupant of 11th and the owner of 3rd (no planet is there in 3rd house). Venus is in the star of Moon lord of 5. And she is in the sub of Saturn at 7 lord of 11 & 12. Saturn the sub lord of Venus is in the sub of Jup+. Jupiter signifies 7th as " A " grade significator. (a) Special Point: - " A planet which can equate 3 & 11 its bhukti should operate. Then only marriage will take place " . – Venus the kalatrakaraka is the occupant of 11 along with Mercury (7th lord). And she is the owner of 3rd (no planets in third) Thus Venus equate not only 3 -11 but also 7. 3rd = negotiation 11th = fulfillment of desire 7th = spouse (wife or husband). (b) Another remarkable point in this horoscope is 3rd lord's signification for 3-10-11. Venus signifies 3-10-11. So the earthly pleasures (luxurious life) will be given to this native. TRANSIT OF JUPITER & SATURN:- (1) Jupiter enters into Makara Rasi. on 10-12-2008 and leaves that sign on 1-9-2009. (2) Saturn enters into Kanya sign on 9-9-2009. During the transit of Jupiter in Makara and transit of Saturn in Kanya is appropriate period for your daughter's marriage. Mostly the marriage may be celebrated during this period (i.e.) from May 2009 to September 2009. Traditional Rules relating to abroad are given hereunder. 1. If Rahu or Ketu is posited in any in any one of the Kendras the native goes abroad. (1-4-7-10 are called as Kendras). Rahu is placed in 4th and Ketu is also placed in 10th. In the same way both the nodes are the occupants of Kendras in Navamsa chart also. 2. If any one among these four planets (1. Sat, 2.Moon. 3. Rahu, 4. Ketu) is placed in Rajyarudham, the native goes abroad. In this birth chart Libra will be Rajyarudham.In that sign Sat is placed. 3. Majority of the planets are the occupants of Movable and Common signs in a Native's chart he/she will go abroad. Except Mars & Jupiter, the remaining 7 planets occupied the Movable and Common Signs. Generally Rahu indicates foreign/foreigners. Such Rahu holds the sub lordship of 4th and 9th cusps. 4th indicates Lower level Education, 9th indicates Higher Education. So I hope that your daughter might have gone abroad on Educational purpose (Study Purpose or doing M.S or something like that in abroad.) Any how if she had been to abroad , Please mention the period of stay, purpose of stay etc.etc Please give some important events which are already occurred to her and ;also the educational qualification particulars for my verification further if required.. " SPARDHAYA VARDHATE VIDYA " —is a saying in Sanskrit. So, I request all the members of this forum to develop our knowledge in this field through discussions only. Awaiting u r reply. Thanking you, Yours faithfully, V.S.N.Murthy. , sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: > > Dear Mr Murty > Ra is agent of mer in 11,l/o 7. > Regards > Sujata > > --- On Sun, 5/10/08, vsnm_vdl <vsnm_vdl wrote: > > vsnm_vdl <vsnm_vdl > Re: daughters's marriage/job > > Sunday, 5 October, 2008, 10:30 PM Respected Mrs.Sujata Garu & Sri. Sudhir Garu, > Namasthe, > Both of you expressed that this native will have love > marriage. But in my opinion, such type of love marriage won't take > place. > > Rule No.1:-If the sub lord of the 5th cusp is deposited in the > constellation of a planet who is the significator of the houses 7 > and 11, then materialization of the love affair is promised. (Horary > Astrology, 6th Reader, 6th edition Page no. 191). As per this rule > 1 , Rahu the sub lord of 5th is deposited in the constellation of > his own who is not at all a significator of 7 and 11. He signifies > 4th only which is a negation for 5th (LOVE). > > Rule 2:- When a node is in its star or sub, it attains the full > signification of its Rasilord. (K.P. & Astrology August 1990 Page > No.17.) Rahu the 5th cuspal sub lord is a node and it is in its own > star. So it attains the signification of its Rasilord (i.e.) Rahu is > placed in Midhuna. Mercury is the sign lord of Midhuna. So Mercury > is the first grade significator of 10th which is a negation to 11th. > No planets in Mercury's stars. > > So in my opinion this native may not be involved in love marriage, > (100%). > > Rule No.3. - If the Sub lord of 12th cusp is a significator of > either 3rd,or 9th or 12th house, one goes abroad.(Horary Astrology, > 6th edition, Page No.264). > As per the 4th rule cited above, 12th cusp sub lord Mercury is not > at all to either for 3rd, or 9th, or 12th. But he signifies 10, 11, > 6, 4 & 7 strength wise respectively star wise and sub wise also. So > no chances are there for this native to go abroad. > > Rule No.4.(Traditional one by Late Sri. B.V.Raman ):- When the > planet occupying the 12th house from that of the lord of the lagna > is well placed in an exalted or friendly house or is aspected by a > friendly or exalted planet, the > Native will prosper in his homeland only. > The lagna lord Jupiter is in Vrischika and Saturn is the occupant of > Libra which is 12 th to the lagna lord's placement. Libra is an > exalted sign for Saturn. So the above rule is fully satisfied. Hence > the native will shine and prosper only in her native land. So I have > come to a conclusion that this native will not go abroad. > > Rule 5:- When a planet holds the sub lordship on certain cusps, > having no planets in its stars, that planet can be deemed to be a > self strong significator for the cusp concerned. (K.P.Year Book > 2006, Published by Krishman Publications, Chennai, Page no.125B). As > per this rule Mercury holds the sub lordship of 12th having no > planets in its stars. So Mercury is to be considered as a self > strong significator for 12th cusp. > > (But as per the rule 5th cited above, Mercury will become a self > strong significator for the 12th. ) Moon Dasa/Mercury Bhukti = 23-05- > 2007 to 22-10-2008 > Moon Dasa/Ketu Bhukti = 22-10-2008 to 22-05-2009 > Moon is in the star of Venus and in the sub or Rahu .Moon dasanatha > signifies11, 10, 3, 8, & 5starwise and 4 sub wise. > Ketu is in its own star and in the sub of Saturn. So it signifies > 10th only star wise and 4, 7, 11, & 12 sub wise. > In Moon's signification 3-10-11 and 4; in ketu's signification 10 > and 4 should be taken in to consideration while judging the > job/profession. > 3rd house = signals, Airmail, courage, short travels etc.etc. > 10th house = profession/job. > 11th house = fulfillment of desire (Labha) > 4th house = native land (Motherland) > Keeping in view all the above mentioned factors, I can declare that > her love affair will never be materialized, no question of going > abroad, and she will get a job during Moon dasa/Ketu bhukti. Later > on only marriage will be solemnized as there is an aspect of Saturn > on Moon which indicate late marriage. > > Awaiting your suggestions and remarks in detailed way. > > With best regards, > Astrologically yours, > V.S.N.Murthy > > PS: Birth Chart of Mrs.Sujata's daughter is uploaded under Files > section viz., " Mrs Sujatas Daughter Birth chart.pdf " . > > @gro ups.com, Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sujata, > > > > She would get the job in late November and early December. > > Her current period till middle of October is also good to land the > job > > Marriage would happen in 2009 and your thoughts on love happening > at work > > place is good next year. > > There is love connection to her marriage. > > > > Regarding her future, she will be Overseas on Professional job > > > > Provide feed back. > > > > Regards > > Sudhir > > > > > > On 10/3/08, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Astrologers > > > My daughter is running moon dasa since '01.Moon is in 10 along > with sun and > > > ke. Moon is in ven in 11 l/o 3 8 and sub of ra in 4. But ra is > agent of mer > > > in 11. Current dasa is moon ke. Ke is conj. 10th cusp. in own > star and sub > > > of sat in 7 l/o 11 12.I suppose that this period will bring > about her > > > marriage and not job. Since moon is lord of 5 in 10, I had > thought that she > > > would love someone at her workplace whom she would marry. But > she has not > > > got a job yet. She is 25yrs old. Time, she married or got a job. > She is > > > frustrated as she did not clear the IAS exam. At that time she > had moom mer > > > dasa. Mer is in star of sun in 10 l/o 6. I was so dissapointed. > Now she has > > > an interview for air-hostess with Singapore Airlines on 11-10- > 08. A horary > > > horoscpe on the interview was not positive. My horary queries > about her > > > getting through IAS were always positive. > > > She would like to give the IAS exam next year too, but her > impatience to > > > earn right away may frustrate the 2nd attempt for IAS. > > > I was wondering if ke with moon and sun in 10th bhava was > responsible as > > > moon mer period was not fruitful. > > > What do you have to say about her future Her tob is 13-1-83, pob > N. Delhi, > > > tob is 11am as rectified by Mr K. Ganpathy. > > > Regards > > > Sujata > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sudhir Consulting Astrologer > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Dear Mr Murthy Thanks for the trouble taken. 11th sub is jup in sat in7 and sub of ven signifying 5. It may be seen in files of KPgroup. The sub of 10th 3rd and 11th, jup, though strong will give her a low job as it signifies 8 7 5 10 11 through star and sub, involving short travels.Since ra is in jup sub, moon dasa has to give her a job. Ke bhukti is to start from 21st of this month. Events of her life: 19-8-88 dasa ve sat mer father was shot dead (an IPS officer) 3-5-89 dasa ve sa ke went to UK for a holiday for 2 months 25-5-99 dasa of su mer mer Holiday in UK for 2 months With the advent of moon dasa she could not get admission in regular college so persued correspondence study in BCOM for a year. Then she got admission in regular college. She did'nt do well academically in moon dasa as compared to sun dasa. In 2004 joined fashion technology institute ( NIFT) in Delhi. Left it after a year as she did not like it. She appeared for IAS exam this year but failed. Regards Sujata --- On Thu, 9/10/08, vsnm_vdl <vsnm_vdl wrote: vsnm_vdl <vsnm_vdl Re: daughters's marriage/job Date: Thursday, 9 October, 2008, 1:13 PM Respected Smt.Sujata Garu, Namasthe,Your daughter's natal chart is reviewed and it is as follows.(1) When Saturn is connected in any way to 2-7-11 then the native willbe married to an aged person. (i.e.) age difference will be morebetween wife and husband. 2nd cusp co-rulers are Mars/Ven/Sun. Mars is the sign lord of 2nd isin Kumbha sign and that sign lord is Sat. Ven is placed in 11th. Itsowner is Sat. Venus is in the sub of Sat. Sun is in the star of Sat. 7th cusp co-rulers are Merc/Sun/Ven. Mercury is the occupant of Makarawhich is Sat's own house. Sun is in the star of Sat. Ven is in sat'ssub and it is placed in Makara. 11th cusp co-rulers are Sat/Sun/Jup. Sat himself is the 11th signlord. Sun is in the star of Sat. Jup is in the star of Sat. Thus all the co rulers of 2-7-11are connected with Sat. 11th lord Sat is placed in 7th and aspecting 2nd. Thus Saturn is well connected to 2-7-11. So this girl may marryan old person as her husband. (Age difference will be more),(2) If the 11th cuspal sub lord is in any way connected to 5th and7th, then love marriage can be expected. The 11th cusp sub lord Ketu is at 10; in her own star; conjoined withSun lord of 6th and also Moon lord of 5th in 10th; and it is alsoaspected by Sat in 7 who is the ;owner of 11th. Therefore lovemarriage can be expected.Let us discuss about Dasanatha and Bhuktinathas.(1) DASANATHA MOON: - Moon is the lord of 5 in 10 and in the star ofVen lord of 3 & 8 at 11, Moon is in the sub of Rahu. This Rahu is in thesub of Jup who is having no planets in its stars holds the sublordship of 3-10-11. So Jup is the strong signification for 3-10-11cusps. And he is also a strong signification for 7th as he is in thestar of Saturn who is at 7.7th = legal bondage the wife and husband.3rd = negotiations and interviews.10th = profession 11th = permanent happiness, fulfillment of desire whether it may berelated to either job or marriage. Therefore Moon dasa may be takeninto consideration while judging the matters of job or marriage.(2) KETU AS BHUKTINATHA: - "Nodes firstly, gives the results of theplanet or planets with which they are conjoined, secondly the lord ofthe star in which it is deposited, then the planet or planetsaspecting them and then the lord of the sign in which they aredeposited." Ketu is very closely conjoined with the 10th cusp as well as with theluminaries (i.e.) Sun & Moon. Ketu has to offer the results of Sun andMoon firstly. Sun signifies 10 and 6 starwise and 12,2 & 9 sub wise .Moon signifies 11, 10, 3,8 & 5 starwise and 4 subwiseKetu is in its own star and the occupant of 10th. So it signifies 10thstrongly.Ketu is aspected by Rahu and Saturn. So it has to give the results ofthe both. Rahu signifies 4th & it is in the ;sub of Jup + signifies7th strongly, 8,11, 12,1 & 10 feebly.Jupiter is the dispositor of Ketu having no planets in its stars holdsthe sub lordship for 3-10-11.As explained above Ketu is a good significator for 10, 6,11, 3, and 7.10th = Job/Profession6th = salaried job (Service)3rd = interviews and negotiations11th = fulfillment of desire These houses are all helpful in getting the job. So Ketu is selectedas bhuktinatha for giving job.(3) Next coming bhukti is VENUS:- Generally the marriage will becelebrated during the dasa-bhukti –anthra's of Venus. Venus is thechief significator for kalatra. (i.e.) wife / husband. Moon is thechief significator for mind. Nakshtra Parivarthana (Mutual star lordexchange) of Moon and Venus is visible clearly in this chart. Thissort of Yoga will thrive the native's intention of having spouse tothe native. Venus holds the star lordship for 2nd; sub lordship for7th and the sub-sub lordship for 11th. Venus is thus connected to 2, 7 & 11. Venus is the occupant of 11th and the owner of 3rd (no planetis there in 3rd house). Venus is in the star of Moon lord of 5. Andshe is in the sub of Saturn at 7 lord of 11 & 12. Saturn the sub lordof Venus is in the sub of Jup+. Jupiter signifies 7th as "A" gradesignificator. (a) Special Point: - "A planet which can equate 3 & 11 its bhuktishould operate. Then only marriage will take place". – Venus thekalatrakaraka is the occupant of 11 along with Mercury (7th lord). Andshe is the owner of 3rd (no planets in third) Thus Venus equate notonly 3 -11 but also 7. 3rd = negotiation11th = fulfillment of desire 7th = spouse (wife or husband).(b) Another remarkable point in this horoscope is3rd lord's signification for 3-10-11. Venus signifies 3-10-11. So theearthly pleasures (luxurious life) will be given to this native.TRANSIT OF JUPITER & SATURN:-(1) Jupiter enters into Makara Rasi. on 10-12-2008 and leaves thatsign on 1-9-2009.(2) Saturn enters into Kanya sign on 9-9-2009.During the transit of Jupiter in Makara and transit of Saturn in Kanyais appropriate period for your daughter's marriage. Mostly themarriage may be celebrated during this period (i.e.) from May 2009 toSeptember 2009.Traditional Rules relating to abroad are given hereunder. 1. If Rahu or Ketu is posited in any in any one of the Kendras thenative goes abroad. (1-4-7-10 are called as Kendras). Rahu is placedin 4th and Ketu is also placed in 10th. In the same way both the nodesare the occupants of Kendras in Navamsa chart also.2. If any one among these four planets (1. Sat, 2.Moon. 3. Rahu, 4.Ketu) is placed in Rajyarudham, the native goes abroad. In this birthchart Libra will be Rajyarudham. In that sign Sat is placed. 3. Majority of the planets are the occupants of Movable and Commonsigns in a Native's chart he/she will go abroad. Except Mars & Jupiter, the remaining 7 planets occupied the Movable and Common Signs. Generally Rahu indicates foreign/foreigners.Such Rahu holds the sub lordship of 4th and 9th cusps. 4th indicatesLower level Education, 9th indicates Higher Education. So I hope thatyour daughter might have gone abroad on Educational purpose (StudyPurpose or doing M.S or something like that in abroad.)Any how if she had been to abroad , Please mention the period of stay,purpose of stay etc.etc Please give some important events which arealready occurred to her and ;also the educational qualificationparticulars for my verification further if required.."SPARDHAYA VARDHATE VIDYA"—is a saying inSanskrit. So, I request all the members of this forum to develop ourknowledge in this field through discussions only. Awaiting u r reply.Thanking you, Yours faithfully, V.S.N.Murthy.@gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Mr Murty > Ra is agent of mer in 11,l/o 7..> Regards> Sujata> > --- On Sun, 5/10/08, vsnm_vdl <vsnm_vdl@.. .> wrote:> > vsnm_vdl <vsnm_vdl@.. .>> Re: daughters's marriage/job> @gro ups.com> Sunday, 5 October, 2008, 10:30 PM> > > > > > > Respected Mrs.Sujata Garu & Sri. Sudhir Garu,> Namasthe,> Both of you expressed that this native will have love > marriage. But in my opinion, such type of love marriage won't take > place.> > Rule No.1:-If the sub lord of the 5th cusp is deposited in the > constellation of a planet who is the significator of the houses 7 > and 11, then materialization of the love affair is promised. (Horary > Astrology, 6th Reader, 6th edition Page no. 191). As per this rule > 1 , Rahu the sub lord of 5th is deposited in the constellation of > his own who is not at all a significator of 7 and 11. He signifies > 4th only which is a negation for 5th (LOVE).> > Rule 2:- When a node is in its star or sub, it attains the full > signification of its Rasilord. (K.P. & Astrology August 1990 Page > No.17.) Rahu the 5th cuspal sub lord is a node and it is in its own > star. So it attains the signification of its Rasilord (i.e.) Rahu is > placed in Midhuna. Mercury is the sign lord of Midhuna. So Mercury > is the first grade significator of 10th which is a negation to 11th. > No planets in Mercury's stars.> > So in my opinion this native may not be involved in love marriage,> (100%)..> > Rule No.3. - If the Sub lord of 12th cusp is a significator of > either 3rd,or 9th or 12th house, one goes abroad.(Horary Astrology, > 6th edition, Page No.264).> As per the 4th rule cited above, 12th cusp sub lord Mercury is not > at all to either for 3rd, or 9th, or 12th. But he signifies 10, 11, > 6, 4 & 7 strength wise respectively star wise and sub wise also. So > no chances are there for this native to go abroad.> > Rule No.4.(Traditional one by Late Sri. B.V.Raman ):- When the > planet occupying the 12th house from that of the lord of the lagna > is well placed in an exalted or friendly house or is aspected by a > friendly or exalted planet, the > Native will prosper in his homeland only.> The lagna lord Jupiter is in Vrischika and Saturn is the occupant of > Libra which is 12 th to the lagna lord's placement. Libra is an > exalted sign for Saturn. So the above rule is fully satisfied. Hence > the native will shine and prosper only in her native land. So I have > come to a conclusion that this native will not go abroad.> > Rule 5:- When a planet holds the sub lordship on certain cusps, > having no planets in its stars, that planet can be deemed to be a > self strong significator for the cusp concerned. (K.P.Year Book > 2006, Published by Krishman Publications, Chennai, Page no.125B). As > per this rule Mercury holds the sub lordship of 12th having no > planets in its stars. So Mercury is to be considered as a self > strong significator for 12th cusp.> > (But as per the rule 5th cited above, Mercury will become a self > strong significator for the 12th. ) Moon Dasa/Mercury Bhukti = 23-05-> 2007 to 22-10-2008> Moon Dasa/Ketu Bhukti = 22-10-2008 to 22-05-2009> Moon is in the star of Venus and in the sub or Rahu .Moon dasanatha > signifies11, 10, 3, 8, & 5starwise and 4 sub wise. > Ketu is in its own star and in the sub of Saturn. So it signifies > 10th only star wise and 4, 7, 11, & 12 sub wise.> In Moon's signification 3-10-11 and 4; in ketu's signification 10 > and 4 should be taken in to consideration while judging the > job/profession.> 3rd house = signals, Airmail, courage, short travels etc.etc.> 10th house = profession/job.> 11th house = fulfillment of desire (Labha) > 4th house = native land (Motherland)> Keeping in view all the above mentioned factors, I can declare that > her love affair will never be materialized, no question of going > abroad, and she will get a job during Moon dasa/Ketu bhukti. Later > on only marriage will be solemnized as there is an aspect of Saturn > on Moon which indicate late marriage.> > Awaiting your suggestions and remarks in detailed way.> > With best regards,> Astrologically yours, > V.S.N.Murthy> > PS: Birth Chart of Mrs.Sujata's daughter is uploaded under Files > section viz., "Mrs Sujatas Daughter Birth chart.pdf".> > @gro ups.com, Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Sujata,> > > > She would get the job in late November and early December.> > Her current period till middle of October is also good to land the > job> > Marriage would happen in 2009 and your thoughts on love happening > at work> > place is good next year.> > There is love connection to her marriage.> > > > Regarding her future, she will be Overseas on Professional job> > > > Provide feed back.> > > > Regards> > Sudhir> > > > > > On 10/3/08, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Astrologers> > > My daughter is running moon dasa since '01.Moon is in 10 along > with sun and> > > ke. Moon is in ven in 11 l/o 3 8 and sub of ra in 4. But ra is > agent of mer> > > in 11. Current dasa is moon ke. Ke is conj. 10th cusp. in own > star and sub> > > of sat in 7 l/o 11 12.I suppose that this period will bring > about her> > > marriage and not job. Since moon is lord of 5 in 10, I had > thought that she> > > would love someone at her workplace whom she would marry. But > she has not> > > got a job yet. She is 25yrs old. Time, she married or got a job. > She is> > > frustrated as she did not clear the IAS exam. At that time she > had moom mer> > > dasa. Mer is in star of sun in 10 l/o 6. I was so dissapointed. > Now she has> > > an interview for air-hostess with Singapore Airlines on 11-10-> 08. A horary> > > horoscpe on the interview was not positive. My horary queries > about her> > > getting through IAS were always positive.> > > She would like to give the IAS exam next year too, but her > impatience to> > > earn right away may frustrate the 2nd attempt for IAS.> > > I was wondering if ke with moon and sun in 10th bhava was > responsible as> > > moon mer period was not fruitful.> > > What do you have to say about her future Her tob is 13-1-83, pob > N. Delhi,> > > tob is 11am as rectified by Mr K. Ganpathy.> > > Regards> > > Sujata> > >> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > > http://messenger. / invite/> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > Sudhir Consulting Astrologer> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, onhttp://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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