Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 " Dear Inder Dada, Whenever I read about someone pinning down to a TEE the precise nature and karakattwa of Swarbhanu and products thereof after it met the blessed touch of Lord Vishnu -- something made me recall that the lunar nodes have been described to serve as surrogates! Shadows can assume any form, for they represent a phase that has potential to FORM as well as to CHANGE and then FORM! It is futile to trap a gas, for instance, in a cylinder and assume that the cylinder describes the SHAPE and FORM of the gas! If that were the case, then oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, carbon dioxide etc would all have the same shape and form! I hope this makes concrete sense to you? Respectfully submitted, Rohiniranjan " Dear Rohini, Yes ,you got it , I wonder if some one can apply these things to Ramkrishmna Parmhans /Mahesh Yogi and other Celebrities in yoga's charts. On the eve of 1st navratra let us remember through this to Ram Krishna ParamHans , a great devotee of Mother Kaali. With this also Congratulation to you and all on the list that we are witnessing the 1st navratra of Vikrami Samvat 2067, Let the Mother bless us to cut our bonds of darkness and put us in the brightness of light. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Dear Inder_dada, I know your recommendation is sage and well-intentioned and reflects the practice that has been adopted in Jyotish teachings and books and articles and web-lessons, viz., to use charts of celebrities to explain and more importantly corroborate and validate some of the jyotish yogas, particularly the BIG ones! In recent memory are the obvious and oft-repeated *problems* with celebrity birthdata and the recent huge and tortuous or at least winding thread about Vivekananda started by Utkal Panigrahi which like similar earlier threads was never really resolved is worthy of consideration. Other than revealing that people representing RamKrishna Mission for whatever reasons best known to them decided to 'allegedly' change the birthtime of Swami between editions of the same book or different publications and so on, it resolved NOTHING :-) Fact of the matter is, 99 or greater % of individuals on this forum will never run into or be consulted by celebrities or saints to give them a reading! What we all should study, perhaps, are the sweaty, greatly unwashed, ordinary people who post, " Guruji, please give me a reading...! " , and not waste time pondering and pontificating about Amitabh Bachchan or Sankaracharya or Dalai Lama or even Hitler for that matter! They have their own SPECIAL astrologers and who knows perhaps rajyogas do not manifest in the same way even if children are born to the king and the servant on the same day, at the same time! Desh, kaal, patraa etc... Just a thought, and a humble recommendation ...! Rohiniranjan ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Dear Rohini, Yes ,you got it , I wonder if some one can apply these things to Ramkrishmna Parmhans /Mahesh Yogi and other Celebrities in yoga's charts. On the eve of 1st navratra let us remember through this to Ram Krishna ParamHans , a great devotee of Mother Kaali. With this also Congratulation to you and all on the list that we are witnessing the 1st navratra of Vikrami Samvat 2067, Let the Mother bless us to cut our bonds of darkness and put us in the brightness of light. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni wrote: > > " Dear Inder Dada, > > Whenever I read about someone pinning down to a TEE the precise nature and > karakattwa of Swarbhanu and products thereof after it met the blessed touch > of Lord Vishnu -- something made me recall that the lunar nodes have been > described to serve as surrogates! > > Shadows can assume any form, for they represent a phase that has potential > to FORM as well as to CHANGE and then FORM! > > It is futile to trap a gas, for instance, in a cylinder and assume that the > cylinder describes the SHAPE and FORM of the gas! If that were the case, > then oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, carbon dioxide etc would all have the same > shape and form! > > I hope this makes concrete sense to you? > > Respectfully submitted, > > Rohiniranjan " > > > > Dear Rohini, > > Yes ,you got it , I wonder if some one can apply these things to Ramkrishmna > Parmhans /Mahesh Yogi and other Celebrities in yoga's charts. > > On the eve of 1st navratra let us remember through this to Ram Krishna > ParamHans , a great devotee of Mother Kaali. > > With this also Congratulation to you and all on the list that we are > witnessing the 1st navratra of Vikrami Samvat 2067, Let the Mother bless us > to cut our bonds of darkness and put us in the brightness of light. > > > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Dear Rohini, I am the last man interested in the Celebrities, though I predicted about Rahul Gandhi and a Article was printed in the News Papers ,but that predictions I gave by chance, a friend of mine who shares the same date as of Rahul Gandhi told me about his sharing this birth date, which intrigued me to search the web and finding his Birth data , I rectified it. By chance it was demanded by the Press as they are always interested in Celebrities, after printing of my report the Rahul Gandhi gave two statements one was against my prediction another confirming my 2nd part. But the public response was amazing. It made me clear that why most of Astrologers had created the profiles of Celebrities on their web sites. About giving guidelines in the Forum like this never in the spirit of what had been taught by sages to us. One shall never predict in a group to an individual. One shall predict only to the person who contact you and take pains to consult you by paying a visit and showing respect towards you in kind or cash. One shall never predict to person whom you know is a follower of another person or group. I too moderate a group Hanskpvedic which is the 1st to adopt and demonstrate on Bhrighu Nandi nadi, and to discuss KP Astrology further my works are to validate that God and Knowledge has no Divisions and boundaries, these are man made and are with vested interests my purpose here or in my own group is only to discuss the cases with astrologers to sharpen the tools to help your consultants who come to you to consult . In my practice as a professional astrologers I am strict to these rules, I will prefer a mature person to be present before me, because Astrology is not only about Predicting it is also about counseling, though I will give reading about the kids to their parents about the mind and way of thinking and feeling so that they shall understand the child well. I am in Astrology from 1972 but started professional only from 1991, and in an average I am giving consultations from 150 to 300 persons in a month my followers includes very high ups in service to the ground routed persons equally. I will prefer to post the cases which I had dealt with. But giving predictions to an individual on these list is like disobeying what had been taught to us by our sages . Giving opinion to an astrologer who might be confused about any of his consultant is another thing . Also the people coming to here for consultations are misusing the facility of Media , they should preferably consult the Astrologer available to them nearby or through media they shall ask in private , not to move in the group of Astrologers like one is moving in Vegetable Market . These are my views , but others at their wish are free to attend the persons who are visiting us for mere purpose of consulation. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni On Behalf Of rohinicrystal 18 March, 2010 7:35 AM Re: I said I am the the universe- Buddha, Shiva, Nother Mary etc Dear Inder_dada, I know your recommendation is sage and well-intentioned and reflects the practice that has been adopted in Jyotish teachings and books and articles and web-lessons, viz., to use charts of celebrities to explain and more importantly corroborate and validate some of the jyotish yogas, particularly the BIG ones! In recent memory are the obvious and oft-repeated *problems* with celebrity birthdata and the recent huge and tortuous or at least winding thread about Vivekananda started by Utkal Panigrahi which like similar earlier threads was never really resolved is worthy of consideration. Other than revealing that people representing RamKrishna Mission for whatever reasons best known to them decided to 'allegedly' change the birthtime of Swami between editions of the same book or different publications and so on, it resolved NOTHING :-) Fact of the matter is, 99 or greater % of individuals on this forum will never run into or be consulted by celebrities or saints to give them a reading! What we all should study, perhaps, are the sweaty, greatly unwashed, ordinary people who post, " Guruji, please give me a reading...! " , and not waste time pondering and pontificating about Amitabh Bachchan or Sankaracharya or Dalai Lama or even Hitler for that matter! They have their own SPECIAL astrologers and who knows perhaps rajyogas do not manifest in the same way even if children are born to the king and the servant on the same day, at the same time! Desh, kaal, patraa etc... Just a thought, and a humble recommendation ...! Rohiniranjan ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Dear Rohini, Yes ,you got it , I wonder if some one can apply these things to Ramkrishmna Parmhans /Mahesh Yogi and other Celebrities in yoga's charts. On the eve of 1st navratra let us remember through this to Ram Krishna ParamHans , a great devotee of Mother Kaali. With this also Congratulation to you and all on the list that we are witnessing the 1st navratra of Vikrami Samvat 2067, Let the Mother bless us to cut our bonds of darkness and put us in the brightness of light. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| <%40> , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni wrote: > > " Dear Inder Dada, > > Whenever I read about someone pinning down to a TEE the precise nature and > karakattwa of Swarbhanu and products thereof after it met the blessed touch > of Lord Vishnu -- something made me recall that the lunar nodes have been > described to serve as surrogates! > > Shadows can assume any form, for they represent a phase that has potential > to FORM as well as to CHANGE and then FORM! > > It is futile to trap a gas, for instance, in a cylinder and assume that the > cylinder describes the SHAPE and FORM of the gas! If that were the case, > then oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, carbon dioxide etc would all have the same > shape and form! > > I hope this makes concrete sense to you? > > Respectfully submitted, > > Rohiniranjan " > > > > Dear Rohini, > > Yes ,you got it , I wonder if some one can apply these things to Ramkrishmna > Parmhans /Mahesh Yogi and other Celebrities in yoga's charts. > > On the eve of 1st navratra let us remember through this to Ram Krishna > ParamHans , a great devotee of Mother Kaali. > > With this also Congratulation to you and all on the list that we are > witnessing the 1st navratra of Vikrami Samvat 2067, Let the Mother bless us > to cut our bonds of darkness and put us in the brightness of light. > > > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 I know! Why else would I even dare address you as Elder Brother, Inder_Dada? :-) Rohiniranjan , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni wrote: > > Dear Rohini, > > I am the last man interested in the Celebrities, though I predicted about > Rahul Gandhi and a Article was printed in the News Papers ,but that > predictions I gave by chance, a friend of mine who shares the same date as > of Rahul Gandhi told me about his sharing this birth date, which intrigued > me to search the web and finding his Birth data , I rectified it. By chance > it was demanded by the Press as they are always interested in Celebrities, > after printing of my report the Rahul Gandhi gave two statements one was > against my prediction another confirming my 2nd part. > > But the public response was amazing. It made me clear that why most of > Astrologers had created the profiles of Celebrities on their web sites. > > About giving guidelines in the Forum like this never in the spirit of what > had been taught by sages to us. One shall never predict in a group to an > individual. One shall predict only to the person who contact you and take > pains to consult you by paying a visit and showing respect towards you in > kind or cash. One shall never predict to person whom you know is a follower > of another person or group. > > I too moderate a group Hanskpvedic which is the 1st to adopt and demonstrate > on Bhrighu Nandi nadi, and to discuss KP Astrology further my works are to > validate that God and Knowledge has no Divisions and boundaries, these are > man made and are with vested interests my purpose here or in my own group > is only to discuss the cases with astrologers to sharpen the tools to help > your consultants who come to you to consult . > > In my practice as a professional astrologers I am strict to these rules, I > will prefer a mature person to be present before me, because Astrology is > not only about Predicting it is also about counseling, though I will give > reading about the kids to their parents about the mind and way of thinking > and feeling so that they shall understand the child well. I am in Astrology > from 1972 but started professional only from 1991, and in an average I am > giving consultations from 150 to 300 persons in a month my followers > includes very high ups in service to the ground routed persons equally. I > will prefer to post the cases which I had dealt with. But giving predictions > to an individual on these list is like disobeying what had been taught to us > by our sages . Giving opinion to an astrologer who might be confused about > any of his consultant is another thing . Also the people coming to here for > consultations are misusing the facility of Media , they should preferably > consult the Astrologer available to them nearby or through media they shall > ask in private , not to move in the group of Astrologers like one is moving > in Vegetable Market . > > These are my views , but others at their wish are free to attend the persons > who are visiting us for mere purpose of consulation. > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > On > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > 18 March, 2010 7:35 AM > > Re: I said I am the the universe- Buddha, Shiva, > Nother Mary etc > > > > > > Dear Inder_dada, > > I know your recommendation is sage and well-intentioned and reflects the > practice that has been adopted in Jyotish teachings and books and articles > and web-lessons, viz., to use charts of celebrities to explain and more > importantly corroborate and validate some of the jyotish yogas, particularly > the BIG ones! > > In recent memory are the obvious and oft-repeated *problems* with celebrity > birthdata and the recent huge and tortuous or at least winding thread about > Vivekananda started by Utkal Panigrahi which like similar earlier threads > was never really resolved is worthy of consideration. Other than revealing > that people representing RamKrishna Mission for whatever reasons best known > to them decided to 'allegedly' change the birthtime of Swami between > editions of the same book or different publications and so on, it resolved > NOTHING :-) > > Fact of the matter is, 99 or greater % of individuals on this forum will > never run into or be consulted by celebrities or saints to give them a > reading! > > What we all should study, perhaps, are the sweaty, greatly unwashed, > ordinary people who post, " Guruji, please give me a reading...! " , and not > waste time pondering and pontificating about Amitabh Bachchan or > Sankaracharya or Dalai Lama or even Hitler for that matter! > > They have their own SPECIAL astrologers and who knows perhaps rajyogas do > not manifest in the same way even if children are born to the king and the > servant on the same day, at the same time! Desh, kaal, patraa etc... > > Just a thought, and a humble recommendation ...! > > Rohiniranjan > > ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| > Dear Rohini, > > Yes ,you got it , I wonder if some one can apply these things to Ramkrishmna > Parmhans /Mahesh Yogi and other Celebrities in yoga's charts. > > On the eve of 1st navratra let us remember through this to Ram Krishna > ParamHans , a great devotee of Mother Kaali. > > With this also Congratulation to you and all on the list that we are > witnessing the 1st navratra of Vikrami Samvat 2067, Let the Mother bless us > to cut our bonds of darkness and put us in the brightness of light. > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| > > <%40> > , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@> wrote: > > > > " Dear Inder Dada, > > > > Whenever I read about someone pinning down to a TEE the precise nature and > > karakattwa of Swarbhanu and products thereof after it met the blessed > touch > > of Lord Vishnu -- something made me recall that the lunar nodes have been > > described to serve as surrogates! > > > > Shadows can assume any form, for they represent a phase that has potential > > to FORM as well as to CHANGE and then FORM! > > > > It is futile to trap a gas, for instance, in a cylinder and assume that > the > > cylinder describes the SHAPE and FORM of the gas! If that were the case, > > then oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, carbon dioxide etc would all have the > same > > shape and form! > > > > I hope this makes concrete sense to you? > > > > Respectfully submitted, > > > > Rohiniranjan " > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini, > > > > Yes ,you got it , I wonder if some one can apply these things to > Ramkrishmna > > Parmhans /Mahesh Yogi and other Celebrities in yoga's charts. > > > > On the eve of 1st navratra let us remember through this to Ram Krishna > > ParamHans , a great devotee of Mother Kaali. > > > > With this also Congratulation to you and all on the list that we are > > witnessing the 1st navratra of Vikrami Samvat 2067, Let the Mother bless > us > > to cut our bonds of darkness and put us in the brightness of light. > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Dear Ranjan, Thanks ,and I respect your sentiments, but you shall know in North India and in Maharashtra, what is meant by Dada , Guru etc. Any how I relish this as my neighbor house tenant is a Bengali, addressing Dada when ever we meet. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni On Behalf Of rohinicrystal 19 March, 2010 9:44 AM Re: I said I am the the universe- Buddha, Shiva, Nother Mary etc I know! Why else would I even dare address you as Elder Brother, Inder_Dada? :-) Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Yes it is sad what wonderful words turn into over time even in the same region. Bhai or brother now means a member of Mafia in Mumbai and perhaps Maharashtra! Another old adjective Gay does not translate into Happy any longer but can be a stigma or insult even! It is almost like how the original representations in astrology which have changed and transformed over time... RR_, , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni wrote: > > Dear Ranjan, > > Thanks ,and I respect your sentiments, but you shall know in North India > and in Maharashtra, what is meant by Dada , Guru etc. Any how I relish this > as my neighbor house tenant is a Bengali, addressing Dada when ever we > meet. > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > On > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > 19 March, 2010 9:44 AM > > Re: I said I am the the universe- Buddha, Shiva, > Nother Mary etc > > > > > > I know! > > Why else would I even dare address you as Elder Brother, Inder_Dada? > > :-) > > Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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